Fraudulent ‘Cancer Doctor’ Killer | S05 E01 | Law & Order

Episode recap from Season 5, Episode 1 "Second Opinion": An investigation is launched when a woman's body begins to emit toxic fumes after she is treated in a hospital for terminal breast cancer.
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[@queenesther09]

Dying with dignity? The poor woman hurled her guts and seized in a classroom full of undoubtably terrified kids, then became a headline joke when fumes from her dead body made someone pass out. I'd call that about as far from dignified as you can get.

[@WarlockPhantom]

Yes, that would be the case if "died with dignity" was ACTUALLY what the character said. But instead, the phrasing used was that the victim WANTED to die with dignity INSTEAD of dying with a bunch of hospital tubes hooked up to her. The lack of tubes was the only part of that wish that she got. Of course, the dignity part just wasn't in the cards due to that doctor.

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

Nothing says "dying with dignity" like vomiting and seizing in front of your class, traumatizing those kids for life.

[@warhawk9566]

and then the smell of your insides being so rotting that it causes a doctor to pass out and makes tabloid headlines. Such dignity

[@lenitaa7938]

@@warhawk9566It was the herbal cream she was overusing, affecting her blood! Crystals in her blood!!

[@grizzly6018]

eh it could have been worse, she could of completely voided her bowels in front of the classroom while she was seizing

[@flickcentergaming680]

​@@grizzly6018true. Not very much around that's less dignified than that.

[@RHLW]

Those brat kids need to learn how it is in the real world.

[@ameliarose47]

Ok I find it ironic that they're talking about Anne dying with dignity and she's labeled The Fume Lady on the front page of the paper.

[@kyleoneil3782]

Biggest bobby I love you so much you sleeping last night make love me my poo think about you how good morning with me cubble sexes my guy

[@stuartschiffman2581]

The Post doesn't treat anyone with dignity.

[@Deborahtunes]

Tell that to "Dr" Haas. She's the reason Anne died in the manner that she did. All the while claiming that her patients will "die with dignity". Problem is, death is never dignified in any way, shape or form...

[@krisaaron5771]

Litter box liners have one goal: BRING IN MORE ADVERTISERS! Dignified deaths and compassion for grieving families don't sell newspapers. They hire headline writers whose only job is to come up with short and snappy phrases like "Fume Lady". A recent example is Alex Jones accusing the families of the 20 children slaughtered at Sandy Hook "hoaxers". That lie cost the blowhard nearly $1 BILLION in damages!

[@ikecarr5989]

It was based on a true story that happened earlier that year. As the tagline for the show in the adverts said, "Ripped From Today's Headlines". THE X-FILES first season finale,"The Elymeyer Flask" even involved people who released toxic fumes when cut.

[@michaelcollins2030]

My grandmother had breast cancer so this doctor was just deplorable in my opinion conning sick and desperate people who have a good chance of living it’s just unforgivable

[@zacharyhartleben3526]

My grandmother died of breast cancer. The last time I saw her, she was lying on her couch with machines all around her and had tubes up her nose. I barely got a goodbye.😢

[@ScottyDont1945]

My grandmother had two forms of cancer, and I saw her drain all her money away on bogus thc treatments and garlic honey remedies that would make a Nigerian prince blush

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

Wanna talk real life deplorable? Look up Canada's assisted suicide program.

[@theauditminionexplores5508]

My mom had lymphoma that resulted in brain tumors, and (in my opinion) she was conned like this by her "doctor". This woman (not a traditional doctor) convinced my mom that the MRI was wrong, that her first tumor was "a viral infection jumping between her brain and her stomach", and assured her she didn't have cancer (this woman had supposedly cured herself of cancer so that made her an expert), and twisted truths (or just flat out lied) to make it sound like she was right and the surgeon and cancer specialist were money grabbing idiots. When mom was officially diagnosed with cancer, this woman disappeared. My mom did not die with any sort of dignity. All that is to say, stories like this episode really trigger me because it's something I've personally experienced.

[@matthewforsyth284]

@@zacharyhartleben3526well that sucks sorry for your loss man.

[@MarionGKeller]

"I guarantee you this: If she were my patient, she'd still be alive," is one of the all-time great L&O lines.

[@loonzoldick]

indeed, not everyone got it (financially and emotionally) to fight cancer, but some people make recoveries, it would be amazing to live in a world where everyone could have access to proper treatments that way less and less scammers would take advantege of the people

[@fpfp8941]

feddy

[@Comicsluvr]

I would rather see such a liar go to prison than the guy who committed a crime to feed his family. I don't care what her intentions were...if she was so noble, she would have given her treatments away or charged a lot less so more people could afford them!

[@TheMan750]

Shame…Van Buren was afraid of getting cancer and got it later on in the series. And this is McCoy’s first episode

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

After season 20 finale she got movement from one chicago

[@dmf1301]

That storyline was developed as a way to kill off the character, because the actress quit. However, when the show got cancelled, they did a HEA ending and put her in remission.

[@sws212]

@@dmf1301 Still one of NBC's worst decisions. The show wasn't the highest rated anymore but still held a long time steady audience in it's timeslot, basically their version of the Simpsons.

[@MrGabeanator]

yep

[@gbonkers666]

Its called foreshadowing....

[@dirdib69]

"She does it all." I like Claire's progression through the episode, finally reaching the point where she has nearly as much contempt for Hass as Jack.

[@RhaegarTargaryen1st]

Dr. Nancy Haas was one of L&O's best and most insidious villains because she hid her greed behind a smokescreen of medical feminism. McCoy was right when he pointed out to Claire that the only reason she objected to prosecuting Haas was because she just couldn't accept that a woman could exploit women just as well as any misogynistic man. The late Jan Maxwell was absolutely brilliant as Dr. Haas.

[@rawyld]

That is a good reason

[@Isabella2335.]

He was right

[@bellerain381]

Very true! Everyone has blinders and it takes someone with different perspectives that makes a difference

[@donnamack6797]

batch!

[@antmagor]

What I loved was when Claire went to see the female oncologist. It wasn’t just that she knew what “Doctor“ Haas’ so-called treatment was actually doing versus what she said it was doing, it’s that she knew what Haas was like personally. She didn’t even believe in her own treatment. Why else collect money on some thing before you have definitive proof that it works. So basically what we’re talking about is Elizabeth Holmes. Only a lot more dangerous.

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

You know what's really lethal to the dignity? Being dead.

[@roguejester4986]

And the last moments being likely a painful experience and those around her becoming horrified.

[@antmagor]

@8:58 The answer to Adam’s question is a simple one. It’s the same reason why Claire didn’t want to Believe Haas was a con artist. The husband wanted to believe that this was going to save his wife. And in reality it accelerated her death and they lost five years, not to mention she didn’t exactly die peacefully. It’s the denial Claire felt, plus Guilt for having gone along with it. And it’s easier to pretend that the so-called cure could’ve worked then have to face the guilt, and do the work of having to forgive yourself and accept that you were the victim in all of this.

[@bernlin2000]

1:53 Very powerful moment, in light of Van Buran's cancer diagnosis much later in the show. Love this earlier character development!

[@Lord_KillerBee]

Jack was spot on with why Claire didn’t want to prosecute Doctor Nancy Haas since she was a woman instead of a man. Quote from Jack “You wouldn’t be having this problem if it was a Mr. Haas instead of a Ms. Haas, men are pigs who deserve to burn in hell but hell is outside my jurisdiction”. Claire would’ve had no problem if it was a manipulative male doctor who took advantage of desperate women but since the doctor was a woman, she didn’t wish to believe a woman would take advantage of other women going through cancer.

[@roguejester4986]

Though I believe both sides can be manipulative equally, I don't exactly blame her since I end up doing the same thing.

[@sonrouge]

For anyone curious: "Louis Pasteur was a French chemist and microbiologist renowned for his discoveries of the principles of vaccination, microbial fermentation, and pasteurization, the last of which was named after him. His research in chemistry led to remarkable breakthroughs in the understanding of the causes and preventions of diseases, which laid down the foundations of hygiene, public health and much of modern medicine."

[@yungblod8975]

So Claire's response was brilliant so he wasn't technically a doctor but he was a chemist and biologist that created multiple revolutionary medications and improved overall public health worldwide lol like Shaquille O'Neil has a doctorate and is technical a doctor but I still wouldn't let him bandage a small scrape and I'm sure McCoy would feel the same😂

[@Uriel-p9w]

@@yungblod8975not really it would be like if Shaq became a football coach because of his athletic background

[@Hakitosama]

@@yungblod8975 fun fact, the first human test of the vaccine against rabbies would have gotten any doctor kicked out of the field nowadays. The test was meant to be conducted on a dog. A mother came with her boy who had been bitten. They didn't know if he was truly contaminated (it's not automatic). Pasteur injected the untest vaccine....And was incredibly lucky.

[@TheGroundedAviator]

And he worked with doctors who administered his creations on his behalf after they felt confident they'd work.

[@bellerain381]

Haas’ attitude is sickening! She reminded me of a doctor who gave me a gyno scan and when I kept saying it hurt, she said I should be used to it…..she didn’t believe me when I said I was a virgin and she said “I know what I’m doing. Just be quiet, honey. I’ve heard and seen everything. You’re not the first ‘virgin’ that came here.”

[@celiajane4250]

nasty doctor.

[@Natalecastellini1992]

Haas isn’t a real doctor. Just a quack selling snake oil

[@roguejester4986]

I hate people like that. That's how you know they are predators of some kind.

[@shayadayan3343]

Virgins don't need gynecological exams until close to menopause

[@ayaretgonzalez27078]

Love how dramatic the actress playing the defense lawyer is I bet she a theater actress

[@mumblesbadly7708]

Gotta love how the attorneys in the TV courtroom drama scenes walk right up to the witness stand when questioning witnesses. In real courtrooms in the US, that is prohibited unless an attorney gets approval from a judge to approach the witness. Otherwise, the attorney is commiting “witness intimidation”.

[@lucinae8512]

I think some courtroom films and series did it in the mid 20th century, and others that came after just made it a trope, even ones that are trying to be more accurate to real life.

[@seanragsdale5636]

Jack’s first case, and the series was never the same

[@grf15]

For better or worse? I disliked McCoy, preferred Stone.

[@seanragsdale5636]

@@grf15 Better. Definitely made the show much more interesting

[@nicholasmaude6906]

I was disgusted by the victim's oncologist, she was a predatory opportunist.

[@michalsoukup1021]

You mean victim's witchdoctor, the whole problem with Hoss was she was not a qualified oncologist to begin with.

[@MrRyukage]

The one kinda mirrored the Ramirez Incidents.

[@ScottyDont1945]

A lot of these episodes were based of real cases

[@jsas2047]

"ripped from the headlines" L&O was known for that

[@bernlin2000]

For me personally, Briscoe/Logan was the best duo in the history of the original L&O series.

[@michalsoukup1021]

"You can live with dignity, you can not die with it" Gregory House MD.

[@rankoorovic7904]

Louis Pasteur was a chemist and microbiologist not a doctor technically but not an outsider as they imply in this episode

[@TheGroundedAviator]

And he worked with doctors who did the injecting.

[@ChessJew]

I believe this is based off the case of Gloria Ramirez.

[@tionalkcore]

Scrolled til I found this!

[@notbill08]

Loosely

[@oscarm1345]

I still think about this episode. Brilliant writing.

[@KayleeMccoyTheGeekQueen]

This is crazy keep up the great work and stay awesome I can't wait to see more videos like this one it's absolutely amazing

[@colynrobinson212]

It's literally just clips from a show. Just go watch the show then?

[@Isabella2335.]

I think this is based on a true story …

[@HistoryMediaStar]

I believe the Gloria Ramírez story.

[@flickcentergaming680]

​@@HistoryMediaStarthat case was bizarre.

[@Jamietheroadrunner]

Love these 10 minute episodes ❤❤❤

[@laurathornton2556]

One of my aunt's had breast cancer, then brain cancer, and then bone cancer. She lived her life in absolute agony. And she did the surgery's and chemo and radiation. Her last five years where horrifying. And that's with doing everything the drs told her to do. I think that she would have been much happier to have spent two years with little to no side effects and actually enjoyed herself. Not in misery and in hospitals.

[@toomanyaccounts]

if you had that one after another you wouldn't be two years it would be weeks or months and you would be in agony

[@laurathornton2556]

Actually most of the pain that she was in was from the chemo and radiation.

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@laurathornton2556 chemo these days is painless. radiation is also fairly painless

[@laurathornton2556]

Really? So you are going to be so bold as to tell me that the side effects are a breeze? That there is no such thing as radiation burns. And that chemo doesn't make a person beg for the vomiting to stop. I call you a liar! I have seen it. I have had a person that I love beg for it to stop. The side effects are not basically nothing. And unless you have had these treatments, don't tell someone else what they are like.

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@laurathornton2556 my mom went through chemo. no side effects except her hair fell out and she grew it back. she had a rare but treatable cancer. An aunt of mine had a blood cancer and an experimental treatment kept her alive for years after every other person with it would die.

[@hazeleyees]

90s hair was something else!

[@utterlyviolet]

You should see 80s hair.

[@hazeleyees]

@@utterlyviolet Ohh I have I lived the 80s. And as a kid had the Dorothy Hamill haircut in the 70s.

[@andrewoolman]

@@utterlyvioletit was shitty

[@83gemm]

We’ll be saying that about current styles in thirty years lol!

[@fabmissb]

The story the beginning is based on was most likely caused by drugs being made in the hospital using hospital equipment, and the drugs on the used equipment combined with whatever was already in the woman’s system caused some sort of noxious chemical reaction.

[@foolslayer9416]

5:19 "Neither was Louis Pasteur..." Louis Pasteur was one of the first microbiologists who helped develop the invention of vaccination. I'm pretty sure if he had the knowledge we had, he'd recommend actual treatment.

[@badatheist9948]

its ironic that the actress that played Dr Hass died of breast cancer

[@brendanmatelan2129]

Two of my Aunts died of cancer, one had lung, the other breast cancer. I didn’t get to see them very much aside from family parties and holidays. I had no idea what pain and agony they went through each day. As far as I know they did multiple treatment options, how they felt I can’t say either. But they both seemed happy especially around us despite their circumstances. You can be happy despite the agony of cancer treatment.

[@Wolffen51]

I like how Jack turns to Clarie and asks her opinion...

[@DASCO2136]

4:37 anyone find it weird that they would show a Chicago Bulls hat instead of a Knicks hat, considering the show is set in New York City? I mean granted, it was coinciding with the Bulls dynasty in the NBA when it was filmed, I just find the choice to be a bit odd

[@firstnext5482]

As a man who knows next to nothing about sports if you asked me to identify the Bulls logo I one hundred percent could but if you asked me the same for the Knicks I'd fail. That could be the reason why they put a Bulls hat over a Knicks hat there. Just a way for people to go "oh, he likes basketball!".

[@DASCO2136]

@@firstnext5482 fair point

[@warhawk9566]

FTR the knicks logo is literally the word "knicks" with a basketball under it so I think most people could figure out the context. IIRC McCoy either studied in Chicago or was a lawyer in Chicago before moving back to New York which is why he's such a new face in this episode@@firstnext5482

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

By the way using Cinauro for "Treathing" the cancer it says everthing about the doctor Fact: This it's the first episode than appears McCoy as ADA

[@KBdoubleE]

TO BE HONEST IN MY OPINION : District Attorney BEN STONE was passionate and assertive, JACK McCOY was tough and on point .

[@roguejester4986]

Both were equally respectable characters and great at their work.

[@StealEp]

Fun Fact: At 3:53 Not Only Is This The First Episode. But This Is The First Scene To Feature Sam Waterston As ADA Later DA John James McCoy.

[@patrickmoylan5983]

The actress that played dr died from breast cancer.

[@darwynauger439]

just noticed; detectives voices get a lot softer when dealing with upper class persons

[@Mustang424]

Anne tries to die with dignity Newspaper: Fume Lady DEAD!!!

[@archdornan3694]

“maybe they wanted to be scammed” really? she cannot be serious. saying “they wanted it” just negates all crimes?

[@jakepullman4914]

Why would he BUY that "Fume Lady" paper?

[@tashibalampkin8555]

7:16 I really like this actor. Her voice is amazing.

[@terrynasonisasupervillain2400]

Nice

[@carolinekampamba2484]

You can live with dignity but you can’t die with dignity.

[@sdaiwepm]

Like Steve Jobs.

[@judgedayan9934]

This episode is legally flawed. The victim went to the quack doctor voluntarily. The quack told her treatments were not FDA approved or tested to be effective. Without doubt she was told by her allopathic doctors that the treatment was quackery, yet, perhaps out of desperation, she voluntarily went to her anyway. This is not legally murder. There was no proof that the concoction made her die sooner than doing nothing at all.

[@jeromemaida4933]

Wrong

[@NACHALCHAIM]

@@jeromemaida4933 Wrong wrong!

[@Virtualsinner]

But morally however...

[@jonyprepperisrael60]

I find it funny how nowdays antimetabolic cancer drugs are an acceptable cancer treatment

[@NinetailsYoda01]

I think the court scene had Dr. Hass “medicine” analyzed and was a mixture of household ingredients it wasn’t actually antimetabolic drugs

[@martakavaliauskaite4566]

​@@NinetailsYoda01exactly it was food items who you can buy in store she was con artist who only wanted money

[@sarahkin36]

Can someone explain the very end to me? I found it hard to hear

[@mpb3481]

The defense lawyer tried to negotiate for first degree manslaughter. McCoy asked Kincaid what she thought of the deal and she answered, “She does it all.”

[@arielg7000]

😢😢😢😢😢

[@starpawsy]

With Jack McCoy, it's "Law and Order". Without Jack, it's a meaningless cop show.

[@woohooboy]

Disagree with that. The series was on the air for four years BEFORE McCoy came on board and was good. Ben Stone was a solid predecessor to Jack. Tony Goldwyn who replaced Sam Waterson is a fine actor. Give him time to settle in. Don't get me wrong, McCoy was great but I've never been of the mindset (with most shows) that one character makes or breaks said series. For programs like L&O, it the ensemble as a whole that defines the show.

[@starpawsy]

@@woohooboy You are of course entitled to your opinion. I look at it from the point of view that if I was in court, whom of these would I fear most - Jack.

[@shayadayan3343]

The wonderful Elizabeth Ashley

[@Ar7wen]

I spy Tony Roberts, known for appearing in Woody Allen films.

[@Wolffen51]

Seems like it’s more like “Let’s Make A Deal” than Justice

[@KevinN-df8eo]

Doctor is not an anagram of "God".

[@MAOFUYE]

Does anyone know where to find season 9-16 of law and order? You can’t even buy it to stream it’s nuts

[@deannag.519]

It’s on Hulu/Disney+ in the US now.

[@RobertDeLuca-b8t]

Why did this doctor do this

[@PenguinTac0s]

Cops would never irl

[@redbigun]

Rogers was looking spicy, though. 😂

[@bcc7777]

Actually, it's 1 in 8 women.

[@philliphsieh83]

time travel time capsule time machine timemachine

[@nickbrundidge9089]

7:32

[@1463sirmatt]

There is no such thing as death without dignity as dignity is that intrinsic quality of being worthy. It is not something that is conferred on us by another and cannot be taken away.

[@Blueboy0316]

The female lawyer is insufferable.

[@workingonmyself]

Did anyone else watching this video get an ad for cancer treatment?

[@joshuaengleman1131]

# 204!!! WHOOOOOO.... DOGGY!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@kc0lif]

tony roberts. Elizabeth Ashley.

[@fpfp8941]

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[@philliphsieh83]

pda

[@sit2go]

Yeah I didn’t buy the 15 year sentence for this. 5 years yeah I would have understood but 15 years. Come on Law and Order became Fantasyland here. The evidence was weak too.

[@kyleoneil3782]

Babe I love you so much are my boyfriend mean lol common. Such think about anything think see Jesus love you such whatever think. Is this think about baby girl very pretty😅

[@paulrichardson635]

How many opposing female lawyers has Jack McCoy schtupped?

[@KevinGarethy]

5:01 that grey usually comes up alot when white women are the suspects😂.

[@archdornan3694]

“maybe they wanted to be scammed” really? she cannot be serious. saying “they wanted it” just negates all crimes?