"Freedom Is NOT Their Top Value" - Zuby on Eastern Culture vs. American Culture

[@humamumtaz2719]

I have lived in the UAE now for the past ten years, and I can testify that is one of the safest places in the world, and there is a big push for family living. I love it.

[@neilwilliams2883]

Zuby is by far the most intelligent person on this entire panel.

[@relly793]

Not a big pool of comparison

[@neilwilliams2883]

@@relly793 Redundant response.

[@robinsss]

what keeps people n line is enforcement of the law

[@robinsss]

to Zuby liberty does not lead to chaos liberty includes limits within it's very definition those limits make chaos impossible

[@KINGmoLawl]

I like turtles 🙂

[@aishax01]

Zuby is so level-headed and rational. This is why Americans need to travel more because they honestly sound uneducated when they speak on other nations.

[@AMAM-wt4sb]

The white guy (dunno his name) shows total ignorance. It's all about his values rather than better cleaner values in the world.

[@AsianAmerican2007]

Lots of americans travel....with guns, planes and tanks! We have 1K+ U.S. Military bases/sites around the world!

[@nicolem889]

Dubai is one big shopper center. That's not life or culture.

[@Mansoh]

Clearly you haven’t been

[@SaoodVidal1]

​@nicolem5626 have you been in Dubai?

[@gunshotlagoon922]

Having lived in different countries in Africa, America, Australia and Asia, I've concluded that I'd rather live in a competent dictatorship that's safe than a chaotic democracy that's not.

[@abdurrahmanqureshi3030]

And what if you make a joke that they find offensive and send you to do hard labor ?

[@nickd2296]

Just keep your mouth shut or else the theocracy will get you.

[@gunshotlagoon922]

@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 In some countries I've been to, you should not make an offensive joke about the government or the religion. But I'd rather live in a country like that than in one where they can arrest you for offending anybody in public.

[@JohnDoe-kb3nm]

Obviously a chaotic democracy is shit, but trust me you wouldn’t enjoy living under a dictatorship…

[@rousbagaming]

​@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030then stop joking and start working

[@72dew]

As a bilingual, I've realized that different nations have very different conceptions of "freedom" and "sovereignty" just from the language. The Western freedom is often conceived as "freedom of x y z" such as freedom of speech, religion, association etc. Whereas the East conceives freedom as "freedom from x y z", such as freedom from poverty, violence, unaccessible healthcare, poor social cohesion etc.

[@mommynaurayasser3007]

yeah I am from Asia.. I want my country free from poverty.. prosperity for everyone.. I always think that my freedom will have limition.. I can say whatever to other people even rude thing that is my freedom if you have western point of view but for me it is not freedom anymore when you insult other people.. it is out of line because though you dont like the people try to critize them in good manner or just keep it to yourself (sometimes being silence is gold) 😂😂.. maybe others cannot understand it and think it is silly

[@patriceesela5000]

Very well explained 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@thepassportog]

Very well said

[@smallworld707]

As a polyglot, it's nothing to do with language. The entire value system is different. In the middle East, it comes from God and the concept of hereafter. Same with India. The West is godless or their God is very flexible. Not so with Islam or Hinduism. Your karma counts! There's no sinning and getting away with it unlike the West. It's the story your parents and the values you're family instills in you that makes the most difference.

[@deekay13]

Positive vs negative freedoms

[@naeltahchi2272]

The top value in Islamic countries is Morality and High code of conduct.

[@sorceryanddoom]

Why the fuck yall flooding my home then bringing crime and nasty habbits to once safe communties . Where im from the muslim areas are the most dangerous lol

[@Cacciatore_Raccoglitore]

In southern Europe it is a family friendly environment

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

at the expense of the happiness of women.

[@bodrulm1]

​@@thispersonrighthere9024feminist crap from an ignorant liberalist

[@AbdurRahman-saabir]

​@@thispersonrighthere9024 have u ever spoken to a Muslim woman?

[@OMOCarlos]

Financial security isn't a bad thing but we've gotten to a point where people think almost anything can be justified by getting paid enough money for it. Sleep with your wife, sure. Give up your self respect, sure. Demean yourself, sure. Pimp yourself to the world, sure. Transition your kid, why not? At some point sacred honor can't be for sale at any price.

[@axxiii8337]

well said

[@Jayhova12334]

Very intelligent viewpoint that being said it’s on us to challenge and Shame those who engage in those things instead of being silent because you empower evil to thrive and now it’s everywhere.

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

don't forget: Cheat on your wife with escorts and 304's? Sure!

[@patriceesela5000]

Yep, in America you can put a price on anything, including your own dignity

[@emaddboor]

Good 👍

[@AXMENT]

What’s the point of feeling free if you can’t go to sleep EVERY night without making sure your house doors and windows are locked and all the cameras are on. What’s the point of feeling free if you deeply doubt the educational system. What’s the point of feeling free if you constantly get confused and doubtful about the future of your relationships. Freedom isn’t everything, it’s important, it’s essential to us, but without a guide and necessary restrictions; it becomes more of an illusion to distract people and deceive them.

[@renoirrandy7241]

US citizens don't know what freedom is, they think it's being able to say whatever you want.

[@TheSwordfish009]

dude... that anti-American argument comes from things that happen ONLY in 3 areas: NYC, Chicago, California. If you removed those 3 areas, the US is top 5 safest countries on the planet. Might be top 3. 99% of the US is safe. ARMED and safe and family oriented. Eastern countries are emulating the US. It is only NYC and Cali is where they are emulating Asian hive mind and communist ideals where the problems are occurring.

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

nobody is taking away my guns from me!

[@ko-Daegu]

​@@thispersonrighthere9024 don't jinx it man with how Biden & Sorus Foundation is going I won't count on those. are you really going to get your kids in danger and are your guns gonna save ya ? with how they indocrinate kids at school are your kids really save? with how they are attacking home school grads calling them unfit, is it really a solution ? maybe for now, but will this remain ?

[@___Truth___]

@@thispersonrighthere9024 f*ck around and find out.

[@kavishhurbungs3152]

Middle east countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar are some of the best countries to raise a family because the schools/educational institutions in those countries don't teach the non-curriculum stuff or subjects to kids that is being taught at schools in America.

[@animedc69]

What geniuses did these country produce

[@kudigawa8719]

Yet they are far rich than America where people sleeps on streets and a lots of life frustrations projection leads to murder and school shootings

[@mohammedkhattab6003]

​@Aditya-mf2ir that's irrelevant. Read what he said again!

[@Mohidful]

​@@animedc69the entrie lost knowledge that west stands on translated from greek to Arabic and other languages from ancient Greece

[@ettoetto3067]

@@animedc69 It gave birth to the algorithms that led a stupid person like you to write on the Internet She gave birth to the soap that cleaned your bodies in the West after they were dirty Want more? I have a long list

[@mademoiselledelaforet6789]

The problem with freedom is that your freedom is not someone's freedom. If one decides to walk naked because they believe its the freedom to other people it will often them

[@noticing33]

Spot on

[@remix-yy1hs]

But you have to ask yourself is good for society

[@remix-yy1hs]

In the west you are free to destroy yourself because you dont matter, in the east you matter, society wants you to be someone they can count on, not a addict in the streets of cali

[@kennethsmith6367]

@@remix-yy1hsThen why are so many people constantly leaving these safe countries for the freedom of the western countries? The only people leaving for the safety of the Middle East are wealthy people who wouldn’t ever give up their passports to be able to leave.

[@remix-yy1hs]

@@kennethsmith6367 because you have burned loated and killed every house on the block and you wonder why we are at your house, the only house left , you think because your must be nice. No

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

3:13 The reason people are moving away from California and NY is because they’ve too MUCH freedom where drugs and anarchy/crime rates is skyrocketing. So they end up moving to more conservative states because of SAFETY and SECURITY.

[@bskee001]

I don’t know about that. High taxes and too much government interfering in people’s lives, which is the opposite of freedom, has lots of people moving. Thats government telling people “we are taking this amount of your money and you can’t do anything about it.”. Not to mention other things like “you have no choice, you are getting this vaccine.”, and “we’re not issuing you a concealed carry permit and we’re going to make it almost impossible for you to carry a weapon and defend yourself against a violent criminal, and if you do, we’ll arrest you instead of the actual criminal.”, and “if you want to open a business or build an addition on your home, it’ll take a decade to get permission and it’ll cost you millions of dollars in fees.”, and the list goes on. This is not freedom…

[@timowayne6993]

Too much freedom can be problem. Let's not forget LGBTV

[@sorceryanddoom]

Naw its because all the immigrants including mudslimes white majority areas are beautiful

[@kari8187]

No. People are moving away because of shoddy politicians enriching themselves and making the working class , poor.

[@berrymckockiner5883]

There is no such thing as to much freedom, there is only what type of freedom are you after. Are you after anarchist type of freedom, financial freedom, peaceful freedom, ect

[@TheGolfCommunity1]

It is a simple question to answer, it’s called morals and ethics

[@DrAdamAckerman]

I love his sincerity and how he corrects their biases and bigotry.

[@MalamIbnMalam]

Pretty easy to do when you are born to Nigerian parents in the UK and then grow up in Saudi Arabia.

[@Proteinplunge]

People in America get so scared when they hear the word sharia law its so funny

[@SamSam-mv6gf]

They are the most chickening people on earth. What do you expect from people who been feed media lies all their life

[@AmicableAgnostic]

Yeh, just like people in Islamic countries fear freedom of speech in regards prophet and religion.

[@TamikoRWhite]

As a Black American who is a direct descendent of people brought to this country as slaves and who fought and died many bloody deaths for the right to be physically free and swung from tall trees fighting for the right to vote and the right to simply exist I AM AGAINST SHARIA LAW! Black Americans will never EVER allow themselves to be sucked into any form of intellectual freedom, physical freedom, emotional freedom, or religious freedom! Women too and Native Americans will never allow such a thing. I smell the coming of a Handmaid's Tale Totalitarian society and that doesn't sit well with me buddy! 😡

[@barcannon]

What is Sharia law?

[@ko-Daegu]

@@barcannon it's an arabic word meaning religious rules, could be any religion but the word since it's arabic used to talk about Islam in particular (similar to Allah meaning god in Arabic hence why the Arabic bible got the world allah in it). so when you say you follow sharia laws what people mean you follow religious laws or laws of Islam, for example don't drink alcohol, no eating pigs, disrespecting your family is a sin, sex out of marriage (aka zina) is also forbidden they call forbidden in Islam Haram (another arabic word that can be used for anything but again used for religion while it not nesseccary is) My dad was deployed in the ME and i was born their before returning to eastern eu then working in belguim you can ask me anything about them cuz i studied their history

[@lyndeen]

Duby did a good job about talking about this freedom safety spectrum. Good stuff.

[@Noura-n8s]

I'm Saudi women and totally agree with zuby 100%, there is no absolute freedom. In my lovely country Saudi arabia 🇸🇦 we have free health care, free education, 100% safe country for women and can go out at 2 a.m do what i like. No harrasment, no drugs, no alcoholics, no rape, no shooting in schools, no murder, no theft, no teaching our kids satanic teaching, no decadence.

[@yakky6052]

Brother is so articulate cool and well spoken. Hes so calmly explaining everything so well. ❤

[@qpoo0qp]

Zuby is well informed about the Middle East

[@numanunees2597]

He grew up in saudi till he was 20.

[@DarkHill43]

​@@numanunees2597cant imagine how hard his life was with that kind of name "Zuby"

[@shawnkay5462]

He lived in Saudi for many years and he speaks like an American because of the international school he went to I assume.

[@Nigerian-born_American]

@@DarkHill43 His name is not Zuby. He is name is Nzube Olisaebuka Udezue. He is of Nigerian-Igbo-Biafra (aka my tribe). Zuby is just a nickname from his first name without the “N”

[@DarkHill43]

@@Nigerian-born_American ah I see, thanks for clearing that up

[@mta5926]

I can listen to Zuby all day!

[@p.m.8316]

too bad of the other guy

[@richardfoord9685]

Most people when they see a chance to be on top with little work they take it. Sometimes when someone complains about wanting equality they really want superiority

[@neko_8315]

Zuby's too High IQ for this podcast

[@Cacciatore_Raccoglitore]

"Other society don't volue freedom as much" and the guy response is "maybe they don't know better": cultural colonialism at its finest. Thank God Zuby teached him how 9/10 of the world works (including half of Europe)

[@kennethsmith6367]

Then why are so many people immigrating both legally and illegally out of the Middle East if those countries are so great? Don’t let a bunch of millionaires overly influence your own lives experience and prior knowledge.

[@makerxmaker3325]

@@kennethsmith6367The west attacked Libya, Sirya, Iraq, afghanistan, Clolonized north africa. And you ask why?

[@DePeaceHunter]

​@@kennethsmith6367 Stop meddling in other countries's business. Stop staging a coups for the elected leaders who doesnt bow to the west. Stop being bully everywhere you go. When you do all that and people still come to your country, only then you can talk.

[@kennethsmith6367]

@@makerxmaker3325 We attempt to colonize and exploit people, natural resources and geological placements on the globe. Just like people and societies have through out all of human history. Duh!!!🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kennethsmith6367]

@@DePeaceHunter That is a very goofy stance on conversations about globalization and the migration of people. Everyone has invaded or been invaded by other countries. Under your ridicules rules no one has the right to talk about anyone else.

[@markverani5088]

What many people forget, especially in the US, is freedom is NOT an end unto itself. Freedom is meant for people to achieve that which they wish to. So if that thing can achieved only with a measure of tradeoffs, most people, even Americans themselves, will do it in accordance with their dearest aspirations. Ben Franklin was very very enlightened man. But that line about liberty and security... 9/11 rang a bell, didn't it?

[@abdulmuneerdost2465]

Very true indeed, exactly to the point imagine pentagon/US politicians created (inside job) 9/11, Iraqi WMD hoax which killed approx. 3,000 Americans and more than 4.5 million others just to control world energy and as deterent to Chinese/Russians! And then engineered (clandestine labs) Covid-19 in order to get richer at the same time reduce world population...young fit people just collapsing, men shoot blanks etc Soviet missiles in Cuba is no go, but US missiles in Ukraine is good! 😅😅 I laugh when they talk of democracy!

[@SALEHKR76]

finally someone telling the truth as it is and showing the true picture of our countries in the gulf big love and respect for this guy

[@fifibibi3213]

The "Christian" nun, preacher, activist and missionary (Caroline Lewis McFarlane), who had a great influence on Christians, and who was assigned the task of spreading Christianity in the Middle East, announces her conversion to Islam, and says: I believed in the last of the prophets Caroline Lewis McFarlane Cry and confess!! She says: Belief in the Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, was the big difference for me. I believed in the last of the prophets. This is how the puzzle was completed. I saw Muslims doing everything I studied in the Bible, doing all the things I read. I read in the Book of Psalms about praying in the evening, praying in the morning, and praying at noon. Muslims do so and live their lives with pride Christians don't do what they say, and Muslims do Whatever they say, that is constant in their lives, you and I hear

[@p.abidin6514]

Thank you for the complement. Some of us dress like Mary, he son of Jesus (Isa in Islam). Let me say that the Quran says love the Christians because they are the closest to you. The Quran is to complete the Bible and make it more clear. We all have the same Prophets. All religions came from Allah (do you researched with "Allah", Chrisitians use it too. An example are the Christians in Malaysia. Look this up).

[@bunnystrasse]

Her beliefs meant zilch. Millions of Muslims are converting out of Islam. Hahahahhaha

[@bunnystrasse]

So if she believes that Allah doesn’t exist and she converts out of Islam, will you follow her?

[@aroongill8848]

So what of you dress more like Mariam/Isa when your religion is a perverted message of Judaism and Christianity making it a false.

[@MrWebSearcher]

@@bunnystrassethose are Muslims by name only. They can not answer simple questions about Islam without checking google 😂

[@BangMaster96]

Freedom works fine, if the People living in the Country are a Moral & Righteous People. Similar, Safety works fine, if the Government ensuring that safety is run by a Moral & Righteous People. The problem in America is that neither the People nor the Government are Moral or Righteous, nor are they guided by any shared Religion, or Higher Purpose. In Middle Eastern Countries, the People & the Government share a common Religion, Culture, and Higher Purpose. That's why they work so well together. Americans have this twisted idea that their Country is the only best country in the world, when in reality, that's an entirely subjective view point. I have some friends in India who have lived in America and still chose to move back to India and now don't want to come to US at all because of all the craziness here. Even though most People might think India as a 3rd world country, there are People in 3rd world countries who are perfectly fine and content living in their Country. So, at the end of the day, we know what works best for a Country, and so far, America is far from that path.

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

There reason people are moving away from California and NY is because they’ve too MUCH freedom where drugs and anarchy/crime rates is skyrocketing. So they end up moving to more conservative states because of SAFETY and SECURITY.

[@BangMaster96]

@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 People will choose what works best in their favor. It's the invisible hand of the free market. However, we know that a Nation can only exist from the basic nuclear family unit, a shared moral culture, and strong borders. America has none of those things. America is just existing as an Economic Zone where everyone is here to just make Money while the ship is still sailing, once the shit hits the fan, it's every Man for himself. America has no shared culture, all 50 states are divided politically, the Blue vs Red states are never going to unite on any issues, and America is also Multicultural with many big immigrant populations, most of whom refuse to integrate into the American culture and bring their own problems here. Plus, our borders are a joke, anyone can literally walk through it right now and not be prosecuted for it. Americans are living on borrowed time. A Nation this divided, this corrupt, with no shared culture, diverse People who refuse to integrate into America, and so much hyper-polarization, on top of that, the US National Debt is $32 trillion, these are really wild and crazy times we live in.

[@patriceesela5000]

100 percent

[@AJ-nd4nk]

​@@BangMaster96Middle Eastern countries are no better. We all have to choose our poison.

[@sanniepstein4835]

@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 California and New York are burdened by endless rules and bureaucracy. The anarchy you speak of is anarchy-tyranny, in which the lawmakers refuse to do their job but bar people from taking care of themselves. It's malevolent and anti-freedom.

[@fatimamohamed7390]

Freedom is subjective. What religion dictates to some might be oppressive but considered freedom to others.

[@SalmanOmar-xw2cu]

I have not seen any country coming close to the beauty I saw in Saudi Arabai the peoples smiling and even my ticket was paid full back because something went wrong never had that anywhere else

[@aroongill8848]

Might have something to do with oil money.

[@khawlajai9053]

best place! smiling itself is charity, ppl over there r the most generous am from their neighbor country uae, indeed they r the most beautiful people

[@mayg7415]

Gotta give it to zubi, that dude is intelligent

[@MuslimCommunityInUSA]

This poor girl sitting next to him with the extreme sadness on her face is a testament why freedom and liberty is nothing but a lie and therefore it should Not be our top priority. Obeying Allah is the utmost priority my brothers and sisters!

[@sorceryanddoom]

Why do muslims flock to the USA and nobody flocks to islamic countries

[@Cacciatore_Raccoglitore]

Why did you move to the USA, if I may ask?

[@Fivetimesthree]

@@Cacciatore_Raccoglitorewhy do you think this person isn’t from our country?? There are many converts.

[@zolpty1164]

and who is that allah u talking about?

[@Fivetimesthree]

@@zolpty1164 you’ll see :)

[@nathanielcarreon5634]

No place is perfect, every place is a compromise.

[@chazly30]

Im late to this vid but it's upsetting when you have people challenging American values and you don't have people competent enough to defend them.

[@AprilMartinChartrandMS]

Well said and thought with examples and more. Thanks Zuby for your discourse. Informative and helpful. Great deconstruction process and savvy... on a very tough topic.

[@LifeisCR7]

Freedom is a right, but it is not to be worshipped

[@el7o]

" Freedom has its limits " that the thing the west will never understand ❌

[@Mohtellawi]

I am Muslim Arab And no, we dont value "safety" more than freedom, we value tradition, family, religion, morality, more than chaotic "freedom", we would trade our safety for these values, and we wouldnt trade these values neither for a shallow freedom or safety.

[@ChromeMan04]

Respect from an Afghan brother. We have the same mentality as well.

[@Mohtellawi]

@@ChromeMan04 Exactly, you guys are the perfect example of this that I cited, you have traded your safety to defend your values, your culture, your families, your religion, against the false freedom the US and its allies brought, their freedom which only meant spreading atheism, nudity, immorality, and destroying families with feminism. Same respect from Palestine.

[@ronmexico5908]

A lot of being wealthy has to do with what pond you're in. If you're the small fish in a big pond you're not going to feel wealthy

[@khalidsafir]

Individualistic countries prioritise freedom, communal countries prioritise happiness. People in communal countries, such as many Islamic countries, have freedoms, but they are limited as they cause disruption for the country. Viktor Frankl, famous psychologist for his understanding of happiness, said happiness comes from meaning. Meaning comes from restricting your freedom based on principles. In short, freedom is not the path to happiness, it is mostly the path to chaos.

[@BedroomBull]

The question is who's principles are you following? Yours or what someone forces you to follow.

[@noticing33]

Logical and well balanced position

[@Isaac-muntz]

Because western countries especially the US values individualism as opposed to others who value community

[@BedroomBull]

The Individual at the end of the day is who matters. Your life has no meaning if your just another face in the crowd.

[@Isaac-muntz]

@@BedroomBull That depends on every individuals perspective

[@MrRiz157]

In America, the primary focus is on fulfilling desires rather than nourishing the soul through freedom. This mentality promotes the idea of doing whatever feels good, which ultimately leads to being enslaved by one's own base desires and becoming no better than an animal. In contrast, Islamic countries prioritize submitting one's will to the Will of God and mastering control over one's lower desires. This approach leads to enlightenment and the realisation of one's true potential as a human being.

[@sanniepstein4835]

Then why do they allow pedophilia? That's as low a desire as anyone could have.

[@TDZ6489]

Freedom to what extend? Freedom without boundaries? Hmmm… Freedom with boundaries - ‘whose’ boundaries? I know my boundaries and the people who know the boundariss are happy. I am happy with the boundaries, as I can focus what I need to do.

[@TheDragonDiaries]

Love how they keep the woman in the shot all the time while she offers nothing to the discussion at all...

[@Leonhart_93]

That's how you know things will never be equal.

[@fisheye375]

Here in Africa it’s community first. When you have, you share because when has he shares. Everybody moves up as one entity. Like a family with 2 billions members

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

There is no ' here' Africa is not an entity. Its a huge continent and never been one and the same aka "Pan Africanism is an illusion" Africa is not one entity, you are promoting a false construct, not carried by the peoples inside Africa. We are too different to be considered 'like a family'

[@abdul-medzidrasidagic2299]

I love listening to intellectual people like Zuby. Very well spoken, intelligent, very logical, easy to follow and he is definitely right!

[@StraightUniversalism]

Life will always be a balance between freedom and safety

[@ChroniclesXposed]

The way in which nations across the world perceive and prioritize liberty and freedom can vary significantly. To illustrate this point, from the standpoint of a Muslim Malaysian, I can attest that the majority of Muslim Malaysians may not consider the freedom to self-identify as a different gender, irrespective of one's biological physiology at birth, as a fundamental aspect of liberty or freedom. This perspective may be seen as a departure from prevailing views and is often attributed to cultural and religious beliefs. Similar considerations extend to views on premarital sex and related matters.

[@gregoryadams4158]

Here in America, we are living through not only a failed state but a failing society as well… it isn’t the fall that is going to destroy us, it will be that sudden stop!!!!!!

[@LevisH21]

don't you think you are exaggerating? the failed states are the leftist run ones like California, Oregon and Michigan, etc. I don't think Americans that live in red states are doing bad. some of them of course have establishment GOP clowns that don't give a damn about the people also, but that is rare. living for example in Utah under that clown Mitt Romney is terrible, I think. or some other John McCain type of GOP establishment pig. living in New Jersey under the rule of that pig Chris Christie must have been entertaining, ironically speaking.

[@raesully2615]

MONEY = FREEDOM

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

There reason people are moving away from California and NY is because they’ve too MUCH freedom where drugs and anarchy/crime rates is skyrocketing. So they end up moving to more conservative states because of SAFETY and SECURITY.

[@raesully2615]

@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 I'm living a great life in my Canadian surburb!!🙂

[@sfb1219]

ADAM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ON GREAT GUESTS ...

[@haitiancreolewithluciano]

I'll take freedom, thanks!

[@raregems119]

Yes but no country offers Freedom and never has and never will

[@DePeaceHunter]

Spoken like a true brainwashed american 👍

[@thecarlob_007]

He asked and he was answered honestly -- 💵 money. Freedom and liberty is just a pretext.

[@perceptionist7]

Freedom itself comes with a cost. If you indulge completely in individualism and absolute liberty, you do have another, negative side to that coin. The point is, we in the west only have a sense of governmental lawfulness. We don’t do things because we fear judicial consequences. Eastern influenced cultures either have that sense of togetherness or religion, a higher power who will eventually hold them accountable. Those kind of systems are primed for moral structures to build on.

[@OkTxSheepLady]

Freedom and liberty is how you generate prosperity.

[@justchilling704]

This is a comtext-less examination of what “freedom” is or means in the context of America and western countries in general. We must also remember positive vs negative freedom (ladder basically being a lack of self control) this is why John Adam’s said “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” America is supposed to be about is about positive freedom ideally for those who are moral and religious, but one doesn’t have to be religious to be moral, or disciplined, possess good character etc. The point though is that these freedom aren’t meant for say outright lawlessness or anarchism. With this in mind I’m gonna have to agree with Benjamin Franklin when he said "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”.

[@skp8748]

Lol tell that to Libyans or Ukrainians in 2 yesrs

[@sorceryanddoom]

The founder fathers where not christian and followed deism and freemasonry lol

[@berrymckockiner5883]

You can't say positive freedom then claim but not anarchy. Anarchy and positive freedom are mutually exclusive and can't be seperated. The fact you say no lawlessness means freedom is being taken from you. Rules restrict freedom.

[@awilliams765]

@berrymckockiner5883 Whenever you have a society made of more than one person, you must have rules. To say you do not have freedom because there are rules that constrict you doesn't mean you're not free.

[@berrymckockiner5883]

@@awilliams765 that's the whole point though, with what zuby was saying, you have to chose what rules you're willing to live with

[@tomaszzubiak543]

Does anyone think freedom is still the highest value in the West after covid experience? personally, I think safety and conformity is people's highest value, freedom comes with a high price, and most people are just too emotionally weak to be free

[@SS-cs6wt]

This guy nailed it. Won’t resonate with simpletons.

[@redac.s.2066]

Talking about positive and negative freedom would have help him a lot frame the conversation and making his points.

[@VSM101]

In Indian religion, Mukti or freedom is one of the core goals along with Arth wealth and good reputation , Dharma duty or good behavior, and Kama pleasure of the spiritual emotional, and physical self.

[@AshwinSriram]

Yup. We (Hindus) call it the Four Purusharthas (the four objectives or goals of human existence). They go by the names - 1) Dharma, 2) Artha, 3) Kama and 4) Moksha. This is the most basic teachings of Hindu culture. Moksha (Liberation or Freedom from the birth-death-rebirth cycle) is the highest goal of human existence. It is a spiritual goal (not so much freedom in the way Americans understand that word). But in order to achieve the highest spiritual goal of liberation (Moksha) one must first understand Dharma (righteousness, ethics, morality, right conduct, right values, etc). One who is in alignment with Dharma (right conduct) will easily achieve the four goals of human existence (the Four Purusharthas). Artha refers to the pursuit of materialistic needs (like wealth, family, properties, basic comforts and other forms of materialistic needs that every human requires to live well). But Artha needs to be balanced by the principles of Dharma (moral code) so that we avoid greed, avarice, etc when pursuing our materialistic needs (artha). Kama means the pursuit of pleasures in life. This includes sex, food and other delights of the senses. The book Kama Sutra comes from the word Kama. But the West has fetished the concept of Kama (they also reduced the word Tantra into sex but I digress). Kama (or pursuit of pleasures) is meant to be approached with balance of mind (we can experience pleasures of the senses but we must not go overboard and fall into the trap of hedonism - this is why Dharma is the most important of the four purushathas because Dharma alone is the moral foundation that helps us balance our life and pursue the four goals in a balanced way without falling into the traps of extremes). For this reason, Dharma is the most important word to a learned Hindu (our religion is in fact called Sanatana Dharma which means Eternal Dharma).

[@swagmalone8092]

It's so safe in Dubai it kinda gets boring so I go back to my own country to feel unsafe lol and most people don't bother to lock the door if they live in apartments.

[@chillhard430]

Americans value Freedom, till the Americans they don't like use those freedoms.

[@iananderson8288]

Freedom is an instrumental good not absolute

[@imgonnaruletheworld]

Miami is the best place to be when you're not hit with cat 4s and 5s hurricanes twice a year 😂

[@patriceesela5000]

With great freedom comes great power and with great power comes great responsibility. Its the last part where many US Americans fail, most can't handle the responsibility that comes with the freedom they have.

[@alkhamistic]

Freedom to say what you want to say? What is Adam talking about? I don't like when people repeat things they've heard or assume. There's no freedom of speech in the US although it's allowed. Look at how many people have been cancelled in the past 5 years for things they've said. Freedom from imprisonment is free, but what do we call it when you're financially imprisoned from getting cancelled?

[@telebiopic]

Zubi is glib yet intellectual 👏

[@MazBringsby]

Zuby is a pseudo-intellectual grifter. Just STOP. Go to a library or something.

[@telebiopic]

@@MazBringsby Bruh! library is my second home, that’s why I know that you don’t know enough

[@il-conte]

I love people assume the US is the most free country in the world. I disagree. Try to not pay your taxes, or to say something against lgbt, or to argue with a cop. You will get your ass handed real fast. I grew up in Europe and felt a lot more free there

[@DePeaceHunter]

This is the land where people are afraid to tell the world what a woman is.

[@ziam6210]

I’m a first generation American. I’ve always loved growing up here but I don’t find America shares my values anymore so I’m heavily focused on living abroad.

[@davidleon5723]

Serious question all these people that are pro Dubai, would you they feel the same if they weren’t in the financial position they are in? Such as starting from the ground up ?

[@alphaalpha7591]

I can say the same thing about America, if it wasn't in this financial position then would people go there to live?

[@bossguyo6424]

Irrelevant question they got pure money

[@davidleon5723]

@@alphaalpha7591 true I’m not criticizing in that sense. I’m curious as most people we hear this from are Uber rich. But would love to hear from middle class citizens. As the one woman mentioned on the panel Switzerland sounds lovely. I guess there is pros and cons of each country

[@fox1actual]

@@davidleon5723I doubt it. I’ve had a few customers talk up Dubai only to express how controlled they are. One guy freaked out that he couldn’t find his phone’s SIM card, without it he wouldn’t be able to get back to Dubai, because that’s how they track you. F that.

[@boshirahmed]

They would never choose to live in Dubai if they were not millionaires. However the argument for millionaires is that it's safer for them. Also for creative types who preach and make money from free speech etc then it's a no. Also the number one reason given by zuby himself is tax reasons. Singapore might have been a better example, eastern Europe or even Japan as those places are run better. Same for Switzerland. These Dubai millionaires fail to give examples like Japan because their main reason is economics and safety for millionaires.

[@MohamedShou]

What’s very interesting Muslims since the beginning of European colonialism in Africa and Asia knew what the negative would hold in the future if they accepted “liberty, freedom, liberalism, secularism and scepticism” from these colonisers and they where right. Look what’s happening in the West they are losing *and many cases lost* their faith, family values is not really respected anymore, women are becoming more promiscuous, men are becoming weaker, homosexuality and other degenerate behaviour is growing, homelessness has become crazy *especially in the UK and the US*, there are more gangs and crimes going on, crazy drug abuses and alcohol abuses etc etc. So for centuries we Muslims knew “Freedom” and all other secular ideologies us a hidden trap that will ruin societies.

[@MoAdan28]

Facts G 💯

[@MoAdan28]

Even you can’t practice your religion in the west without some disgusting degenerate showing from other people, whilst in the Middle East you can.

[@ktx93]

sharia law fix all their problems

[@ryojs4286]

Absolute fact Liberalism invented in the 1700s by a christian called John Locke and Thomas Hobbe

[@scenopiachannel]

“Freedom” degen in the West only started when the J ews took over in the late 1700s, before that it was Catholic Sharia.

[@Mr.Jasaw13]

uu these were some thought provoking powerful insights .. Zuby was great I would just add that besides safety, there are other legitimate values that people care about, like truth, hierarchy, authority, family etc..

[@ahmedmusa9821]

Thank you.

[@imrankhan-ob3es]

Zuby's intellect is higher than the whole panel, his actually lived in those countries instead of watching the news 🙄

[@crazydolphin33]

And that's why he left and moved to America, because they suck, you dumb bastard lol

[@eliakimbenishchayil]

In the US you can’t say what ever you want without consequence.

[@kingjams]

Is having too much Freedom a good thing? People scream they want the freedom to do this and that, but then when you look at the country they live in and how the government treats them, what's the benefits of all this Freedom.

[@heythere6983]

They don’t have freedom it’s an illusion

[@justchilling704]

No such thing as to much freedom, only the bad use of one’s freedom.

[@waynebrown9564]

Freedom is just a buzz word people use. American freedom is self destructive and freedom can lead to self destruction slot of the times. The strong hand of the state should be used to uphold moral virtues and stability on the social and economic plane of society.

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

@@waynebrown9564Exactly! You absolutely get it. There reason people are moving away from California and NY is because they’ve too MUCH freedom where drugs and anarchy/crime rates is skyrocketing. So they end up moving to more conservative states because of SAFETY and SECURITY. I wish more people realize this basic fact.

[@kiadav9529]

freedom without responsibilities is anarchy

[@ares7187]

The girl next to him is so zoned out and just nodding. That’s exactly what freedom gives you lol

[@therealsheikh]

Nice to see two men have an interesting conversation with a lot of nice decoration around them. Just too many unnecessary mics on the set.😂

[@mysticman86]

Middle East is the only place where a mansions gate is left open with a brand new lambo packed outside.. A very safe place

[@sorceryanddoom]

Never herd of Canada eh ? Pretty darn safe here

[@renoirrandy7241]

​@@sorceryanddoomcan't do that in toronto

[@sorceryanddoom]

@@renoirrandy7241 cuz Muslims such as the Somali community ruined this city. At one time you could leave your door unlocked in Toronto When it was all white Christians

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

Law is brutal

[@AmicableAgnostic]

Oh really. I didn't know people keep their mansions open in Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Oman, Lebanon, Iran, Jordan. Just Dubai is not middle east.

[@mulan2010]

This guy is so well spoken.

[@jaymywills]

Zuby could DEFINITELY run this entire podcast/panel if he wanted to!

[@bxi1547]

Is that a shock to you?

[@GoTocco]

Freedom is not safe. It's the opposite of safe. The safest, most secure place is a maximum security cell. Freedom involves risk, which is why it often leads to rewards.

[@le3b]

in the usa you are not allowed to speak about israel and the holocaust and many things...

[@thebaglady1443]

Bingo

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

Freedom and safety both come with cost.

[@fox1actual]

Liberty was balanced by Christianity which brought standards and morality.

[@justchilling704]

Exactly,. freedom isn’t the issue it’s how we use freedom, Golf Countries are pretty tyrannical aside from foreigners people born their are legally Muslims and can’t even change religions officially.

[@berrymckockiner5883]

There's no one definition of balance. What you might find balanced someone will find oppressive, as zuby pointed out with alch

[@kurarisusa]

Exactly, the more virtuous a people are, the more free they can be. Freedom comes with duties and we used to know that. It’s only recently, with the rise in people turning away from God, that you have the old human brokenness misusing and thus losing that freedom.

[@bander-Coolb]

I appreciate seeing a smart brother

[@fifibibi3213]

Ex Rev I am confident that any Christian who reads his book “The Holy Book” will know that his religion is false, but with conditions, that he read the entire book with careful attention, thinking, impartiality, and a desire to know the truth and follow it no matter what it is without twisted interpretations. You will discover that the book itself explicitly denies that Christ is God and clearly declares that he is a servant and a messenger. The word “trinity” was mentioned throughout the book, and it contradicts sound reason and the texts of monotheism. So read it with your mind with the intention of the truth, you will reach the truth, God willing.)

[@aroongill8848]

Okay pagan go worship kaa'ba now.

[@saq78642]

@@aroongill8848 lmao imagine thinking people worship a building you retard

[@casualobserver288]

​​​@@aroongill8848Says the person who worships statues and pictures of "god". Christians need visual stimulation to believe and worship god muslims dont. So chill PAGAN.

[@casualobserver288]

​@@aroongill8848no muslim worships the kaaba😂😂😂. the kabaa is a worldwide unification of all worshipers in one unity of worship. No one prays for the kaaba, all muslims pray to God. its Allah Hu Akbar not kaaba Hu Akbar.

[@user-pd9xj1bt4e]

@@aroongill8848No one prays to the Kaaba, they pray at the direction of the Kaaba. Very big difference.

[@safiya798]

Americans are still required to pay federal taxes even if they live abroad. So don't confuse that with operating a business with HQ abroad.

[@asifrahim4620]

Protect this man

[@Haxzyr]

Don't forget that we are in outer space! Keep it real with the inner matter!! Don't project alienistic views without finding human humor and humility 💯 🇵🇸

[@lancesmith4390]

The woman next to Zuby * needs my baby.....Period

[@limorapp]

Zuby* 😄

[@lancesmith4390]

@@limorapp Happy

[@limorapp]

@@lancesmith4390 we were just joking 🙃 but we’re sure Zuby would be happy , he is a man of detail after all !

[@berrymckockiner5883]

​@@lancesmith4390you want your kids mthr to be an Onlyfewls model

[@stefanhetzel]

"I can only live in a country where nobody wants to steal my Rolex." So people are millionaires or robots?

[@fox1actual]

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin

[@justchilling704]

Based.

[@imadkahya6955]

And your country is proof since you have neither

[@fox1actual]

@@imadkahya6955 were actively being attacked from the inside by powerful transnationals with a lot of money. Your country will fall the same way.

[@saidctbb]

Benjamin Franklin is not god, just because he said something does not mean it is true, human need safety and freedom, but what kind of freedom? freedom to walk naked on the street ? there are limits in order for society to function If everyone does whatever they want, society will not function properly and everyone will hate each other, so you need to limit freedom and you need safety in order for society to function and for people to be happy, the problem is who decides what to limit and where to draw the line.

[@berrymckockiner5883]

​​@@fox1actualattacked??? 😂😂😂 Self inflicted wounds is not being attacked

[@julioponce799]

If anything the real problem is extremism and knowing where to draw the line

[@fifibibi3213]

Internationally famous Russian Christian perfume maker in the perfume industry: Adam pronounced the two testimonies and entered the religion of Islam. He was born and raised as a Christian in Moscow, in Russia, the largest Orthodox country in the world, but his doubts about his faith did not leave him. He was one of those who hated and feared Islam until God guided him to Islam. One of the Muslims said to him: I am a Muslim, but I believe in Jesus and I love Jesus more. From what my parents loved, we as Muslims of God, believe that He will return to bring justice and righteousness to restore peace and harmony to the world. Adam read the translation of the meanings of the Noble Qur’an into the Russian language, and he read a lot about Islam and its teachings until God expanded his chest and pronounced the two testimonies of faith declaring his conversion to Islam with certainty and conviction that Islam is the truth, that the Qur’an is the word of God, that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the Messenger of God, and that Jesus “peace be upon him” is God and His Messenger . May God grant him perseverance. We believe that he is a prophet! slave

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

Masha’Allah! I’ve always believed in a Creator and alhamdulillah for being a Muslim. The media propaganda lies have failed and more people are realizing the truth that there is One God, One Message, and One Humanity. May Allah GUIDE those who are sincere and honest before it’s too late for them.

[@PineapplVlll]

If you are Muslim… then fix your statement Jesus (peace be upon him) is not God!!! He is a messenger

[@RIVALSGOOBERS]

@@PineapplVlllyea his grammar sucks , but I didn’t catch the mistake till u point it . I doubt any Muslim will start believing Jesus is God from his mistake

[@AlphaToOmegaXG]

Freedom and safety are not the same nor do they depend on each other necessarily. Having sis that we American value freedom over safety. We would rather have unsafe freedom than safe slavery

[@MrRobot414]

Adam’s thinking is just so shallow it’s painful

[@patriceesela5000]

He's a product of his environment

[@TheSwordfish009]

People act like NYC, Chicago, and LA are the only places that exist in the U.S. The rest of the country is quiet, safe, ARMED, and free. The U.S. constitution is what makes it special, rich, and powerful. We have freedom. The reason we can take advantage of moving to OTHER countries is because of our industry and the power of the US power. Zuby only focuses on tiny DESERT areas in the middle east that has success. Guess what... these industries are thanks to western investment and planning. The U.S. has hundreds of Dubai.

[@TheSwordfish009]

@AA-dz2pf Laugh. Look at the data yourself. When NYC, LA, and Chicago are removed from the statistics pool, the US has the lowest instances of murder and overall violence. Guess what these 3 cities have in common. They are disarmed and run by ultra liberal policies.

[@Caporegime007]

This girl Natalia is getting too big for he boots.

[@cottonabrian]

1. Prosperity 2. Safety 3. Freedom ...Taxes are a necessity for infrastructure around you.

[@25taylorkw]

A country that represent having a limited government still has some government involvement like doing these things. - Having a minimum of common-sense regulations enforced without over regulating the economy. - Establishing laws that prohibits committing violent crimes, theft, vandalism, and prohibited violating age limit laws. In other words being tough on crime when it comes to those particular crimes. - Establishing individual rights like civil rights, body autonomy rights, and obviously constitutional rights. - Having funding for the US military, the US infrastructure, only having 3 social safety net programs ( aka having the EITC program and the Medicaid Program for poor people with the SSI program for people with disabilities ), and maybe having a public catastrophic health insurance option that people can either opt in to pay taxes or opt out to pay taxes ( in which maternity care would be covered under that catastrophic plan ). Outside of those four aspects, people get out of the personal freedom / liberty to do what they like with also laying the capitalist market economy work its magic.

[@HAMRADIO-w3g]

America is not a Christian nation. I am Christian and this country was developed to be secular. Thomas Jefferson wanted to keep despotic regimes from arising. Now another one has arisen, corporatism, and we have not yet found a way to shake it.

[@jutsu1]

That's a lie, America is based on Christian principles. And Christianity is not despotic.

[@HAMRADIO-w3g]

@@jutsu1 The church has the tendency of containing power to a few unelected people. That is why it was pushed away at the countrie inception.

[@MrRangersfan123]

Ehh this isn’t really “correct”. Yes it wasn’t founded as a Christian theocracy, but the US was undoubtedly founded within the framework of the Christian moral ethic.

[@KennethStBrice]

​@@HAMRADIO-w3gthe church? Are you dumb? Catholics yes, Protestants no. But hierarchy is necessary everywhere

[@justoguillermomontoya3821]

It is a Christian nation. Nobody cares about your circa 2000’s Sam Harris atheism.

[@hamzakadir7058]

They all said money 💰.... and that in itself is telling.