POLICE BATON COMPARISON | ASP NEXTORCH Monadnock | 21" Collapsible batons

[@gaveintothedarkness]

I really missed these old school free field training videos. Keep em up!

[@GingerBrityt]

In my force in the UK we use Bonowi Camlock batons. Opens perfectly every time, closes perfectly every time, has gone through many a window and still works perfectly, u know it’s going to be strong when the middle/end section are basically the same width of the handle

[@PhilThomasTV]

and its perfectly waited too making it a breeze to open :)

[@williamgrech930]

My force has just switched over to them

[@jms972]

@@williamgrech930 It is the best button baton ever made, the ASP is a toothpick, NEX is good but it wobbles.

[@adamclark-joseph2581]

Yeah, Bonowi is the best button-release baton on the market by a mile.

[@jms972]

@@adamclark-joseph2581 I own 6 button-release batons, the Bonowi is so superior to the others, ASP is sheit they (only good about ASP is they inveted the telescopic baton) is a toothpick, the talon rattles like a snake the bonowi is like a baseball bat

[@tims1415]

Free Field Training IS The BEST Channel of It’s Kind! Hands Down!

[@z3160200]

I have been a follower of your channel for quite sometime, I definitely have to say that your videos have really improved overtime.

[@w00dy-18]

I've never used my baton in my 7 years on patrol. I do prefer OC spray in the open air (no bystanders or heavy wind), because it blinds/disorients the suspect before going hands on. The baton is a nice tool for keeping people away. I've been at the receiving end during training, it's a nice incentive to go away..

[@DrMurdercock]

I carry one for self defense. a APS 26'. Figured it was smarter less lethal than a knife, an safer to my neighborhood kids than a firearm. LOTS of kids around here so I thought long and hard about what to do. Take my chances with the baton I guess. At least when around the home. I have practiced/trained opening/swinging it at non head targets. My only gripe is they have NOTHING without buying an accessory to keep someone from yanking it from you. That makes no sense to me. They make wrist strap end pieces but ill prolly just droll holes an put my own paracord on it

[@baddriversofthenorcalarea500]

Then when you go hands on, you get a taste of some spicy air.

[@Firsir]

That nextorch baton looks very much like it has been made by the same people as Bonowi batons. The shaft and closure button look the same as the 24” one I was issued, just a different grip. Even sounds the same when deployed. All I can say about it is that it is a big step up from my old 21” friction lock baton. A lot heavier (in a good way) and a lot more striking force deliverable.

[@heyoldtime8969]

I have an ASP baton that I bought in 2000. I carry it for personal protection. The locking mechanism is just friction fit and there is a spring retention device in the cap that holds it closed. I prefer that over all that you have shown. No maintenance is required and no lubrication should be used to ensure the friction fit in the open position. The grip material is worn now and the fit in it's scabbard is kinda loose. I am moving to the Stinger Tactical Whip for non lethal defense now. The whip can be wrapped around through the belt loops . Good vid , thanks.

[@seanconlin8712]

Thank you Tommy for the information I have used a friction ASP 21 for 10 years and was thinking of changing to a button closure type. This will help me make a choice.

[@awesomeaxel1]

I have a 60cm asp talon infinity, a 21in nex baton, and a 21in bonowi eka camlock. The nex baton and the bonowi camlock are very similar in their design, but with some obvious differences. The bonowi is noticably thicker with a slightly shorter handle. The nex doesn't provide much retention in the collapsed state, but what retention it does have is consistent enough to keep it from just falling completely open. The bonowi however, has some kind of air suction effect that provides great retention when fully collapsed, but once that "air seal" is broken it will completely fall open just from gravity. They're both incredibly durable, high quality batons that blow the asp out of the water in my opinion.

[@SgtSly]

I’ve had the asp for about six months now and it has stood up well. Don’t know how often you use yours in your area. But the only hard use mine has seen is breaking a couple car windows. Never tried using the button side as even with a friction lock I always used the striking tip for that.

[@awmperry]

We're issued the B&T Triton 21"; nice and robust, with a really imposing clack. Big improvement over the old friction locks.

[@vyderka]

I haven't handled asp or monadnock, but I'm pretty sure that as most expandable batons they are weighted towards the handle. My nextorch has a point of balance in the middle, like a stick or non-expandable baton would have. It makes it a formidable striking weapon. The same about bonowi. With batons the placement of the point of balance is crucial. If it's towards the handle, the weight does not transfer into the energy effectively enough. I the striking end is weighted, it strikes with a lot of power, but is far less maneuverable. Having the point of balance in the middle, like with a stick, makes it easy to maneuver and very efficient at striking.

[@ol-Sarge]

My Monadnock polymer tip is about twice as long as the tip on yours. However, my Monadnock baton is older than yours. I bought it around 1999. I got it when I was assigned to bike patrol and my usual wooden stick would sometimes bang into the spokes on the tires. So I bought the collapsible baton for convenience sake. I think the end was called a “speed tip”. or something like that. I was disappointed with the Monadnock’s inability to impart disabling strikes. It does not have the striking power of my wooden baton. Because it does not impart as much force, you have to strike the person more times. That does not play well on the local news. All the public sees is the number of times you strike the suspect, not how effective the strikes were. Now retired, I still keep my wooden stick in my vehicle in case I need it.

[@shaneallen1192]

When I started as a police officer in 1996 we carried the gold standard. The PR-24. As others transitioned to the straight baton, I stayed with the PR until I retired in 2020. My experiences showed the straight friction lock batons to be useless for anything other than clearing spider webs. The PR had sufficient weight and it is multi-functional. A great baton.

[@mmabri]

I'm like you. My old school PR-24 works perfectly for me, and I still carry it with me to this day.

[@sgtj.peldridge4567]

I personally still have an old metal tip asp baton that's been through many different tips and broke so many windows and bent so many times

[@michaelschaffer9165]

Are there any advantages of friction lock batons over button locks?

[@jkorte88]

Love these videos, I watched the one about the suspenders, and I bought the 911 from Canada I love them thanks again

[@Manu_MMI]

How ?? In canada baton are not ilegal ?

[@therealsimon9089]

@@Manu_MMI I believe he was talking about the suspenders sold by 911 gear. But batons are not illegal in Canada, unless they’re spring loaded. It is illegal however to carry a baton concealed, like any weapon here in Canada. It’s also typically illegal for use in self defence. One of the few exceptions is licensed security guards, at least in the province of Ontario. where it can be used for self defence.

[@therealsimon9089]

@@Manu_MMI Laws also vary by province.

[@johnathonkorte3390]

yes thank you @Simon Wolst I did mean the suspenders by 911 gear. I love them so far Fit great and durably.

[@BloPsy_Actual]

I use ESP batons since we'll, it's Czech company and I am Czech. It's heat treated and really great for the price.

[@giambattistamaineri7472]

Very strong baton

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

I got a Bonowi Camlock myself. Only potential downside is the lack of a bulbous head, so less swinging weight at the end. Love it though.

[@tylerj1425]

Just over 3 years ago I was issued the original version of the ASP Talon when I started at my first department. Thanks to luck and the magic that is TASER my baton lived in its holster on my belt for 60-70 hour wok weeks for the duration of its life. Every other week or so I would pull it out and ensure it was functioning correctly. One fateful shift about 2.5 years into the baton's lifespan I preformed my usual check of the baton and the lock button and that little metal post attached to it fell out of the bottom of the baton leaving the body of the baton locked into place in my hand. I slid the button back into place and was able to close the baton with ease and I found the button was locked into place again. A couple redeployments yielded the same results. I'm not sure if it got bent or broken somehow during a call or what happened to it. I tossed it in the garbage, and because by policy I had to have baton, I went out and got the ASP Talon Infinity in this video. I'm now in a new department where I have actually gottn some use out of the new version. No issues with it yet but I guess time will tell.

[@janedough725]

i bet that Talon Infity is really great for suppressing resistance

[@Bristo_Blear11]

Any updates?

[@phillipmarlowe0525]

Like the zipper jacket. What brand?

[@CallsignRiot]

So glad this came out today, just got certified for asp baton

[@bonowihartarmour]

You should compare them with the Bonowi Camlock Baton. You will see the difference. The Bonowi ist the only one which is maintenance-free and gives you a 10 year warranty.

[@freefieldtraining]

If you guys want to send a sample I'd be happy to take a look. [e-mail]

[@michaell1603]

My brother owns one of your batons. It felt super smooth and had a great balance to it 💯

[@saygoodnight2010]

I just received my 26 inch Bonowi camlock yesterday. Is it normal to have a bit of wiggle when extended ?

[@bonowihartarmour]

@@saygoodnight2010 Due to the length of this Baton, there could be a bit of wiggle but only minimal. Where did you bought the Bonowi Camlock?

[@saygoodnight2010]

The wiggle is slight. I just was not sure if it was normal as there are no in depth reviews of the camlock on YT. I purchased the baton online from PSP Corp in Canada. ​@@bonowihartarmour

[@chillios2222]

i got the entry level ASP which has no button , still very pricey, honestly the wood baton was great for cost effectiveness, also the duty pouch allows you to reholster the baton extended because fighting to close it wastes time, also the end of mine is pretty scraped

[@MaxItUpwithMarta]

I would like to have some sort of self defense when I go out to walk. What should I use?

[@vapeking466]

If you don't want to risk a murder charge with a gun then probably pepper spray however I actually prefer pepper gel as it sprays farther and sticks as a gel on the face! The only issue is it doesn't seem to bother everyone and some can power through it like a geeked out meth fueled tweaker on day 7!

[@bowlofrice8]

I found a Autolock in the woods a few years back. My guess is that a cop was chasing someone and a tree probably pulled out of his belt. Cleaned it up and it still works great. It's the 21 inch with a big ball on the handle end which i assume is for breaking windows.

[@smilly9]

Nah it’s a grip retention cap.

[@roadking681]

Are u able to hammer strike with the NextTorch baton with out it closing on you?? Please respond?? Thank you.

[@gingerbread6310]

I have 2 baton, a bonowi eka and esp both is 21' but I always carry a bonowi because camlock system is slick and smooth, and of course udap mogger fogger pepper spray for extra spice for the bad guys. Lol.. anyway nice review I just found this old video due to youtube algorithm recommendation

[@Beelzebububble]

Would like a video showing how these hold up when smashing objects. I've switched to steel whips because the batons bend when smashing heads in.

[@Pemuda_NabeeBorDor]

Golden nextorch symbol. What model do I have to buy to get this?

[@freeamerican94]

Please do a review on peacekeepers RCB batons

[@MattTheBandKid]

That's what I carry on duty. Most everyone in my department uses asps but I like the RCB because you can use it like a strait stick

[@jaimemunoz5920]

So I have seen some reviews and such stating that you can jab with these is that true? I have been told the friction lock ones you should not jab with because they can close on you.

[@godamighty]

Yes you can

[@user-fh5su4ui8w]

You shouldve got the Peacekeeper RCB Baton

[@saygoodnight2010]

I just ordered the 29 inch RCB a few hours ago lol.

[@kelvinwilliams6999]

Have you done a review of the Bonowi batons?

[@MrKFREE123]

Can the tip of an ASP be used on a NEXForce? I need a rubber tip for mine and I can’t find one anywhere for a 39” NEXForce… Thanks for the video!!

[@smilingscottsman]

Very informative. Thanks for sharing. Do you have an opinion on the Kali Sticks sold by Budo Brothers?😊

[@jimangel9642]

Really good review - I gleaned a lot of info :)

[@bigbluemsp]

I carried a Auto Lock in 26" for a few years and had to have it repaired several times. The locking and unlocking mechanism kept failing on it. It just wouldn't stay reliable. I was sent a ASP Talon when they first came out by the rep and it's been flawless so far. When my Auto Lock worked it was great. I remember when all we had was friction locks anf having to wait to get to concrete to close up your baton 🤣🤣. Bro we are getting old.

[@ronaldwilson1431]

Yeah, I hate if you don't hit it just right it doesn't retract!

[@JuliettWhiskeyNiner]

You’d be old if you remember just slipping your leather sap back into the sap pocket on your trousers! Nightsticks only used at night!

[@jorgegranda3793]

Are Uzi expandable hardened steel batons 21 inch any good?

[@rickyserna1787]

Thank You for the help. "MASTER" Hoooo Yaa.. Thanks man.

[@jennycostelloe5742]

Can you do A Video on the batons that you have to force on a hard surface

[@rob_outdoor]

Does the Nex 21“ have little play/wobble when it is extended ? Thx

[@Stereo-x3n]

It has a little. But much less than asp or bonowi or monadnock

[@Stereo-x3n]

Even u cant feel that in using.

[@jakejudson8578]

I got a rothco 21 too heavy, but that ain't all bad.

[@MADuranDude777]

Where are each of them made?

[@stevenpolkinghorn4747]

I've literally never carried my issued baton. It's not SOP for us. I have it in the car. The use of force policy doesn't allow a lot of use for it.

[@lucianodibella7925]

What about the expandable baton with side handle?

[@cowbatboots282]

because of you I bought a Modanock baton with a safety top about 4 years ago.

[@silverr_o]

where did you get it from?

[@dapwn3ritswatido]

Don't flick open upwards because you could hit someone in the head that you aren't aware of standing too close, rather flick open downwards... So you can hit the small child creeping around your legs 😆

[@w00dy-18]

If you flick up correctly, you can't hit anyone. At my police academy we trained this standing in close line. Flicking it upwards also makes a nice statement to everyone that "shit just got real". Flicking downwards is more discrete.

[@awmperry]

@@w00dy-18 Yeah. When we did our training we practiced this by cramming the whole class into a box about 4x3m. A bit of practice and planning and it becomes 4x3m easy to open either straight up or down along the leg.

[@spartanj2957]

Nextorch has none for sale on their site ,and for quite awhile now and it is impossible to raise them .

[@jamesmcdermott5048]

Just thinking, I am in my 70's now, I am from Chicago Illinois, (Rogers Park), I have a CRJ Degree, but was certified years ago. These tiny tools are not what the little chubby boys and girls showing up for classes so the can have a uniform need to protect themselves from the bad guys who have survived in the streets, and prisons of the State and Federal systems. those guys will laugh at them, take their tiny tools away from them and shove it wherever they want. tell them it will happen when the criminals take away their arms and use them on them they will think bout their decision of career choice. I have seen 6 foot 4 inch tall 250 lb. seasoned vets run away "Cowardice in the line of Duty". This is a very dangerous job with very dangerous criminals out there. DO NOT FORGET TO TELL THEM THE CRIMINALS DO NOT RESPECT YOUR UNIFORM, OR OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SSYSTEM. GOD BLESS OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHOM DO THIS COURAGEOUS JOB EVERY DAY, RISKING THEIR LIVES AND THE VERY FUTURE OF THEIR FAMILIES THEY POTENTIONALLY CAN LEAVE BEHIND.

[@theburningelement.6447]

Smith and Weston is a really good brand to

[@thanasis-_-]

What is a good price for a 21 in baton?

[@shaynedurtschi1217]

Hope you're having a good day

[@hamptont5971]

Great video!

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

There was one that I've been trying to find forever. It uses a Ramset nailgun cartridge to deploy instead of a spring. Kind of a novelty but it was a little bit lighter and you didn't have to worry about a spring wearing out.

[@tanzepei1985]

Are wooden batons and truncheons really obselete nowadays?

[@interpol007]

Peacekeeper RCB

[@renegade7493]

#1 baton

[@robkitchen5344]

Do they make them with the button not on end... i would be using it to get up and down from the ground ..like a short cane which is my intended use... a fukk size cane is Inconvenient and won't be used for walking...just getting to my feet or support on traverse of slopes..... they don't make what I need in medical mobile aidß or hiking walking equipment... my concern is prison.... if I add hiking supplyer stickers would prevent possession and concealed weapon charges for having it in my disc golf bag.... I live in California

[@etiennemacq]

Hi everybody, do you know the difference between the NEX 21 and the NEX 21C? Thanks.

[@nextorch]

The NEX 21 baton has two vesion, (Airweight / Steel)

[@HrWisch]

Nex21A is made of steel and aluminum and weighs around 320g. Nex21C is made of steel only, weighs around 550g and is certified for use by the German police.

[@williamgrech930]

We use a wooden truncheon in my force. Has never let me down yet.

[@alexdvorak4079]

Do you pull people over on horseback as well?

[@muspobear]

Love ya channel Sir.

[@matthewellisor5835]

I'll try to get through it for the info and the watch time but audio ouch. Anyone else having problems or is it on my end?

[@ClarkHuman]

Your end.

[@scottmcnulty70]

Wear and tear on these shouldn't be a big deal if you don't plan on using it on people that often. If you practice a lot on wood, it starts to matter. Maybe you need 2?

[@哥姚]

I only love use gas baton and eka baton.

[@walterkersting6238]

I bought a $20 collapsible friction lock baton and in the course of practicing whipping it out to full length, it developed some looseness. One time a dog was barking at me and I whipped it out and the end of it flew off and went over somebody’s fence and hit their house thank God I didn’t break a window thank God the dog didn’t know what I had just done and thank God I didn’t try that with a human being.

[@MoreThanRhymes]

Cool ima get one soon

[@ruckaruckame]

trick to get ur cam to focus use ur hand or a piece of paper to make it focus

[@kawikadee9670]

Those auto locks jingles alot.

[@STBRetired1]

None of these videos show just how much force/pain can be achieved with a collapsible baton. A baseball bat has most of the weight in the tip which generates tons of force. The baton has all the weight in the handle with just a small, lightweight tip. So, how much force can really be generated? Is it enough to go through Winter clothing or heavy work pants and stop an attacker? None of these videos show...

[@unclefreedom213]

They aren't great in that regards but heavy winter clothing be damned there are only a couple of points that can be struck with the baton at least in law enforcement. The aiming points are major nerve bundles not to smash bones we're looking to shut down the limbs with nerve pain not blunt trauma. That said you have to lean into it for sure

[@jefferyshall]

Why on earth would they make the whole thing out of steel and then make just the end cap out of aluminum?!?

[@whatdoiput807]

Uhh... I bought a non brand one off of Wish, a 26 inch one for sixteen dollars. Looks way better than all of these even after I beat the shit out of it. Boutta buy another fresh one to carry.

[@ToddSloanIAAN]

The clerk of superior intelligence... 1:58I

[@joshuawong8882]

Nextorch good quality? Better than the asp?

[@Stereo-x3n]

I think its same level. But if you consider price, nex must be nice choice. Durabillity, power,.. another side is same with asp.

[@nrconnor60]

No Peace Keeper baton? Wow.. SMH.....

[@renegade7493]

They're not an auto lock yet

[@vicentemendoza1668]

Hey brother I have a question do I have to be LE and or trained to carry an asp products such as cuffs Batons flashlights

[@saritapradhan3719]

Nex baton is best

[@richardscott9394]

The asp is the nicest ihave the t 60

[@jonathanbruce9658]

I've never beat off the ground

[@xusmico187]

all are crap. Bonowi Camlock EU made is the best. ASP instructor since 96. ASP fan boy until i took a beating with the Bonowie pricy but HANDS DOWN, the best.

[@William-dj3hf]

The Hell with botons . I have a Baseball Bat 🦇

[@truereviewsportsnews5692]

*If I was a pothead in HS (currently about to finish College), and I put “yes” to I have smoked weed before but have been clean for a year... am I safe?*

[@screwgle7914]

yeah. you smoked weed and now you want to make a living screwing people over for doing the same thing. scumbag.

[@instigator2304]

Just keep your mouth shut you never did it

[@iiGODLYWARRIOR]

don't worry about it. every young cop in my town would smoke dank back in the day. as long as you pass your random drug tests you'll be fine 😆

[@JoePVoiceOfReason]

In about 1976 when I was 13 in Chicago, a couple friends and I were just hanging out and talking at a small neighborhood park at about 10pm. A couple Chicago cops pulled up. I was the closest to where they parked, so the cop took his old style big wooden billy club first thing, rammed the end into my gut, bending me over, and asked "What are you guys doing out here?" The cop basically assaulted me, then began asking questions.

[@maestrorochi6495]

Yo tengo uno chino de 10 dólares

[@daydaysosmooth5367]

Who else want to become a police

[@kawikadee9670]

26 inch is better

[@stacythomas4558]

Are you fighting every day? Because your face isn't all messed up.

[@Tdaz250]

Nestorch link is dead

[@patrickaherne3598]

Those all suck. If it's not a Peacekeeper, it's just extra wasted weight on your belt.

[@janedough725]

oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oinkoink oink oink i smell bacon

[@jacksonblack2776]

😂😂😂

[@123Rockchild]

Disrespectful. Don’t call the police if you need them.

[@ak_downrange_threat7251]

ESP Ukranian Baton or GTFO with that trash! ASP is a knock off brand.

[@awesomeaxel1]

Actually, quite the opposite is true... ASP is a US company that makes high end US made batons specifically for LEO and Military use, not to mention that they are the company that first introduced the collapsible baton back in the 70's. ESP is a much younger company that makes more value oriented batons and is generally considered a budget brand, based out of the Czech Republic... If you prefer ESP over ASP that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that they are in fact the budget brand in comparison to ASP which isn't a knockoff brand by any means.

[@Stereo-x3n]

⁠​⁠@@awesomeaxel1asp and esp baton is in same level. Actucally, esp baton is more strong and powerful than asp. Durabillity test vid showing that. It means, esp is not a cheap brand. But it made nice product at low price. Better than asp when consider durabillity, price, in terms of every sides. Almost euro countries using esp, america use asp.

[@robkitchen5344]

Do they make them with the button not on end... i would be using it to get up and down from the ground ..like a short cane which is my intended use... a fukk size cane is Inconvenient and won't be used for walking...just getting to my feet or support on traverse of slopes..... they don't make what I need in medical mobile aidß or hiking walking equipment... my concern is prison.... if I add hiking supplyer stickers would prevent possession and concealed weapon charges for having it in my disc golf bag.... I live in California