Freestyle Tricktip 2: Endovers

[@MichaelDowns]

You are insane at the end! Videos of people as good as you make me very hyped to learn freestyle tricks. I just found your gold mine of a website, thanks for taking the time to compile a wealth of knowledge!

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Thanks, mate. It's been a long labour of love so far, and there's still so much to cover. Always glad to hear it's appreciated!

[@TheAnimeist]

"The speed will come with smoothness". That is so true! I always make sure to put in the time for a trick that is the most difficult going front/back side and starting from switch. After time, the payoff feels like magic.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Yeah, that's the right way to do it. I worry sometimes that people watch videos on here and expect to be able to rush through everything as if these tricktips are a magic bullet. Nothing replaces time, practice, and effort.

[@deadmoonscriptures1556]

Screw it; I've decided I'm going to follow all your trick tips in order. I managed to figure out the casper, but what you said here resonated with me; I need to master each direction. Thank you for your tutorials; they've helped me massively.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

I'm glad to hear it! I try to be as thorough as possible so newcomers don't have to struggle as much as I did, so it's always good to know it's working out. BTW - and I know I say this regularly, but I can't stress it enough - it's really best to go through the website (www.freestyletricktips.com) as a front-end for these things rather than through KZbin directly. The videos are all embedded there, but you get way more guidance (including links!) for things that you need to make sure you've done before, so if there's something in particular you want to learn, it's far easier to work backwards and create your own roadmap that way.

[@jpizzleforizzle]

I've been practicing monster walks for about a week now. This has helped soooo much.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Glad to hear it. Monster walks and endovers will help with loads of other tricks, too - there's so much which builds on these basic ideas.

[@jpizzleforizzle]

@@FreestyleTricktips just had a convo with you and another dude on facebook regarding reissue deck warp. I was asking about suggestions for decks and if moonshine was going to sell completes. Once I get an actual freestyle setup all of this should be little easier. Trying to do endovers and monster walks while feeling like I'm doing splits really sucks! Thanks for your awesome channel and your most excellent advice!

[@FreestyleTricktips]

@@jpizzleforizzle I hear you on the last part. Too many people are skating decks which are way too long for them and it just looks laborious. Getting the wheelbase right for your height makes such a huge difference to both the ease of movement and your overall style!

[@zombiedeathclow]

Thank you for your trick tips... Monster walks and endovers are well on the way to becoming comfortable... And I almost got a Casper today. 35 yrs old and just getting back in to it. Thanks for the inspiration and instruction. You and Mike Osterman are amazing teachers.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

This is really cool to hear. It seems like so many folks have been getting back into skateboarding - and back into freestyle in particular - over the last year or so. You're in good company, and there's really never been a better time to get involved. BTW, if you haven't seen it already, check out the "roadmap" I put together for beginners over on the website: freestyletricktips.com/freestyle-skateboarding-101/ That should help you get up to speed in the most organised, productive fashion.

[@pro1jax]

Nice lesson, thank you!

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

Thank you for talking about the shoulders. My alignment was the problem with my ollies so maybe this'll help my manuals.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Shoulders are the key to EVERYTHING. That's such a solid skate hack: pay more attention to your shoulders than your feet.

[@BlareSG]

this is such a useful video thanks mate!

[@raemshikaki3626]

Thanks for the trick tip ...

[@FreestyleTricktips]

No worries. Hope it helps!

[@Knightgil]

These are great tutorials, thank you

[@Ashwangg]

You had 666 subscribers, which is unholy, so I subscribed. Also nice vids :) Super helpful!

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Thanks for saving my soul there, mate. Hah. Glad the videos are helping you out!

[@Grimarani]

That was so sick at the end. Just discovered your website, amazing content and thank you this will help me alot as i start practicing! I skate by myself so it is incredibly helpful

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Yeah, I had to learn the basics of freestyle on my own in the early 2000s, so I understand what it's like. That's part of the reason I started this project (the website plus the KZbin channel) - so that other people didn't have to struggle to reinvent the wheel like I did. If you haven't already, I recommend you have a look at the "roadmap" I made for beginners to get started with freestyle: freestyletricktips.com/freestyle-skateboarding-101/ That should help get you up to speed, and you can use the skills and techniques from the tricks on that page to learn almost anything else.

[@---eu1ez]

last dance is so cool. wanna be like you

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Thanks, mate. Give it some time and some practice and you'll get it!

[@ThisChannelFTW]

Wish i had some nice smooth flat ground like that nearby!!

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Yeah, it's not a bad little space. The problem is the "little" part. As this is a skatepark, it fills up with skaters FAST.

[@jassi6549]

Could you pleaseeee tell me your skateboard size ?? it seems to be small in length than normal board. And one more thing.. your skills are awesommmmee... you are out of this world. I wish i will able to do 70% of you one day and that will be more than enough for me. You deserve millions of subscribers

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Thanks, Romey. My deck is a little shorter than a street deck - it's 28" long, whereas many decks are about 30.5". This makes it a lot easier to move quickly, and I don't have to stretch as far to reach both ends of the board for moves like these endovers. You can see the full stats here: offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/moonshine-tony-gale-fury-7-3-x-28/ Give it time and practice and you'll be able to do all this stuff too. Just gotta keep going!

[@jassi6549]

@@FreestyleTricktips Thankyou so much for replying. I saw you reply to everyone and that helps many beginners like us to be on right track.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

I try to reply to everyone who has a question. It's tough to keep on top of everything, but I think it's important to help where I can.

[@sakreth1113]

Nice trick tip! I am a beginner skater, still learning 180 kickturns and tic tacs. I can do 90 degree turns both direction but 180 is a real challenge. Is it a bad habit to have my front shoulder down and finish a turn by having the weight mostly on my front foot? Because you said one shouldn't have lean to any direction while turning. But I saw this in other videos and started to practice like that.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Yeah, you really don't want to be leaning. The problem is two-fold: first, when you lean, you're more likely to fall off. Second, when you're leaning one way (and reliant on leaning to turn), you have to then stand back up and lean in the opposite direction to do the next movement. Ideally, your torso should remain pretty much bolt upright throughout. While Dan Gesmer takes it to the extreme (and it looks a bit silly at points), this is about as perfect an example of this as possible: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJfOiICmeLCleKc

[@sakreth1113]

@@FreestyleTricktips thank you, I give it a try!

[@1fashionsouls]

youre sickkk

[@rcgldr]

I'm an old guy (69 years) old, and just started skateboarding again. It's been over 20 years since I spent more than a few minutes on a board. I got a new board, and it only took a few minutes to be able to do tic tacs to propel the skateboard again. I do standard tic tacs and a slight pump variation where I steer and push the front wheels outwards to propel the skateboard a bit more before doing the kick turn, mostly if I'm doing a series of kick turns all in the same direction. I'm having issues with 180's though, trying to end up stable. Maybe I should work on partial monster walks first and build up to 180s? Getting back to tic tacs, once at sufficient speed, you can just weave the board similar to a straight slalom run to propel the skateboard, without having to lift the front end, while the upper body is essentially doing the same movement as a tic tac. I recall some televised skateboard competition form the 1970's where one of the guys did really high speed and fast endovers, somewhere between 15 and 20 mph, less than 1/4 second for each 180, but I've never been able to find that footage on youtube yet. I think was aired on one of the ABC wide world of sports television shows.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

I'm a bit of a stern teacher at points, and I generally tell people to avoid those small, partial monster walks as it can lead to bad habits. Try to get used to full 180s as soon as possible. Don't worry about long strings of them if you're not comfortable; focus on single rotations off either the nose or tail in whichever direction you find easiest, but make sure they're the complete 180º and you can roll away smoothly. Once you get used to that, you can start work on doing the same in another direction or off another end of the board. Good for you on getting back on the board at 69, though. That's amazing to hear. I'm sure it'll all come rushing back in no time!

[@rcgldr]

@@FreestyleTricktips - I"m getting more consistent with the 180's, but just doing 1 at a time till I consistently end up stable, which is mostly avoiding overshooting or undershooting each 180. After the initial left turning 180 with the front foot, I can follow with an endover to the left or monster walk to the right. I'm not sure if or when I'll try doing right turning 180 with front foot. Will wait till I can do left turning endovers and monsterwalks. Wheelies are going to take a while, so I may work on walk the dog next.

[@rcgldr]

@@FreestyleTricktips - I forgot to mention I'm riding a mini-cruiser board, 27 inches long, 14 inch "wheelbase" (inner screw distance), with 61 mm diameter, 38 mm width, 78A, soft sticky wheels, which don't slide, so I have to be a bit more precise on the 180's, and I don't plan on doing any flip or skate park type tricks.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Those 78a wheels are probably a good choice for (re)learning these. Too many new skaters get into bad habits because the rock-hard wheels on most modern skateboards can slide around all over the place; there's little to no incentive for doing things cleanly when you can just drag the wheels around with no resistance.

[@rcgldr]

@@FreestyleTricktips - you can hear some sliding in your video, which I assume is due to the wheels and the surface. Seems a person would need to make some adjustment to switch between wheels that slide somewhat, and the clear (see through), very sticky wheels that don't seem to slide at all (probably would be bad for them, creating a flat spot).

[@snowhusk]

1:47 "Almost like you're walking, exactly the same procedure" is precisely the kind of word choices I love your lessons for. Been feeling for a while now that "wheels" are just a "cyclical" implementation.of(legs.function) making skating therefore "an extension of one's legs" --> {bunch of other metaphors too specific, yet too general to spout out all at once}. I've seen your comment on some nice Instagram comic about beginning to learn freestyle that endovers are one of the first things to learn and that they are great for understanding weight shifting and that the effect.of(getting. endovers) will later help .manifest __shuvits__ and __what_not__ easier. So I've come back here to learn these, because I accidentally figured out fakie __fs_pivot__ by doing that exaggerated arm swinging and wondered how can I get into fakie while riding, given that riding switch still feels a bit weird and doing that pivot from switch fakie feels weird too. Turns out this .trick is the effect(I was looking for) 👏🖖 Oh yeah, ninja-edit: hope your back is healing fast and feeling fine, dude, godspeed 💧🔥

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Here's a fun observation on these lines which you might appreciate: I quit skateboarding in 2007 and didn't pick up a board again for over three years. In that time, I found that while I was walking, certain motions would remind me of certain tricks, like I was calling up some shared resource from a deeply-buried library both "languages" derived from and/or could access. It was really weird. I think that's one of the reasons I teach these things so dogmatically and make such a point of talking about the right order to do things; everything stacks into a series of motions, so as long as the base is correct, everything on top will compile easier (to stretch this metaphor even further). And yes, this one motion/sequence of movements really is the root of almost everything. It's seriously under-appreciated for how important it is. Also: my back's doing much better now, thanks. Had my first tenuous roll around in weeks over the weekend. Still not 100% but not yelling in pain every five minutes, so a real step in the right direction!

[@BrendanBFree]

Nice video mate, I already do these ones but you helped my monster walks. I didnt think endover was a trick, I knew about the 1 footed version which is what got me spinning like a crazy man in the first place.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Well, I guess now they're considered basics, but once upon a time, these would have been one of the most advanced tricks there was, which is crazy to think about. We've come a long way!

[@BrendanBFree]

I do crazy spinny manual tricks for fun, when I started skating again after youtube I discovered freestyle and it really emanates with me. edit: I had seen rodney mullens "primo" and casper slide tricks, the typical tricks but didn't know other tricks had freestyle origins.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Honestly, the Mullen stuff kinda bores me. Stuff like Kevin Harris' part in Ban This is way more fun to do. Also, I highly recommend you have a look at Dan Gesmer's Four Wheels Down clip. It's on KZbin somewhere. That video is so bizarrely brilliant.

[@BrendanBFree]

@@FreestyleTricktips I just watched it, very inspiring. I liked Mullen because he did tricks no one else in "my" world ever did. Now I'm back on a board after 10-12 years and KZbin has made it so much easier to showcase different styles of skating, whole cultures that go underappreciated. When I got back on my board 6months ago, I found people such as Andy Anderson, Mike Osterman, kilian Martin etc and it made me realise there were others that did wierd manual/wheelie tricks and much more. A whole world of original and ever changing tricks. I still have a pet peeve about feet touching ground, but some of them tricks are growing on me.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

NO. DO NOT ACCEPT THE FEET ON THE GROUND. #footdowndontcount This is my biggest source of frustration with current skateboarding. Foot down tricks all fit into one of two categories: 1) an easy way of doing something good 2) standing around and twirling a board in your hand like a cheerleader with a baton. Both are lame as hell, and I wish we could stop pretending they're somehow cool. They're not. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but to me, skateboarding is about actually rolling around - not walking across the floor. Street skaters left that crap in the 80s for a reason!

[@justnoah6151]

Basic but so important

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Yep. Too many people skip over the basics, but getting this stuff right early on makes such a difference on the bigger tricks.

[@dididiihas]

Have you seen this guy name Hans Smit? He make something as basic as this and make it look amazing.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

I know Hans Smit well! I met him in person at the World Champs back in 2006, and he's been a favourite of mine ever since. The guy can just *flow* for days.

[@calebshaffer2087]

So would it help if I knew how to tic tac switch, as well?

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Not necessarily. It wouldn't hurt, but I wouldn't waste too much time trying to tic tac in the wrong direction!

[@calebshaffer2087]

@@FreestyleTricktips cool because that was probably the most awkward thing I ever tried to do.

[@FreestyleTricktips]

Hah, yeah, I feel your pain. I was trying to do them with Lillis in a session a while back. Made me feel like a bloody idiot. Related observation: freestyle tends to be more forward-facing than street. We have a more open stance for a lot of our tricks, while the ollie kinda demands your shoulders are perfectly in line with the board. As such, switch is a really, really bizarre feeling in freestyle, because you're not just riding backwards - your whole orientation is different. I tend to ride forwards and fakie as a result. Switch doesn't really exist for me.

[@calebshaffer2087]

@@FreestyleTricktips it seems like it should be so simple, but then you try it and everything just feels wrong.

[@peruperu-jj8zs]

Either he is giant or he's got the smallest board in the world

[@FreestyleTricktips]

5' 10", and a 28" long deck. Neither a giant nor the smallest board... you should have a look at Kevin Harris in the 80s. He's about 6' 5" and had a 26.6" long deck! Honestly, shorter decks are better for freestyle. Endovers like this look weird if you can't reach both ends of the board at the same time without stretching.