The WORST Types When You Play as a Gym Leader

Generation 8 Monotype Pokemon
0:00 Introduction
1:12 #5
2:55 #4
4:49 #3
7:03 #2
7:37 #1
Thanks to Ashbala and Spitfire Arcanine for help making the video :)

[@sinom_00]

i was under the impression that Monotype was a format about forfeiting battles until you get the Fairy-Dragon matchup

[@NotMystery_]

it is

[@thedude-nf1uf]

It mostly is. But you can beat bad match ups if you get the right mon. (Mon water vs eletric with gastrodon for example)

[@sinom_00]

@@thedude-nf1uf yeah, in fairness this video is about COMPETITIVE Monotype... which is far more interesting from a balance standpoint!

[@connivingkhajiit]

@@thedude-nf1uf except for grass knot

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

@@thedude-nf1uf It's very hard, but it is possible with god like plays

[@introprospector]

Beating mono steel with hail stall back in gen 4 was always funny. I can't imagine running ice now

[@bestiaalfin1061]

As a Steel MonoType User,I Only Need to spam Bullet Punch with Scizor and let the masacre starts.

[@introprospector]

@@bestiaalfin1061 sub protect wallrein 32 turns scizor dies. infinite weather was broken af I think it might also die to blizzard from a few of the special attackers even resisted but idk it's been a few years

[@Quix0tic707]

In gen 8 Ice was better than it had been for a very long time, maybe ever. Mamoswine destroyed Steel other than the Flying ones, Arctozolt made quick work of those, and you had Aurora Veil for improved bulk. Got worse in Gen 9 with no A-Tails (though it’s coming back for dlc), but it’s still usable

[@jass783]

@@bestiaalfin1061that shit ain't punching through an ice body avalugg in the snow buddy. gen 9 mechanics and chien pao baby ice on top número uno 🤞🔑‼️

[@bestiaalfin1061]

@@jass783 ,just Switch Out to Gholdengo, and then u had to switch out to at least a Mon that Is neutral to steel, that had to stand against a 120 BP move.

[@craigyeah1052]

Yay, I'm so proud of my rock team and always love seeing confirmation that it should suck

[@ZombieKitty321]

Same, i dont push for rating at all, but my normal mono has gotten me to like 16-1700, lol

[@jembozaba4864]

@@ZombieKitty321 I'm Mono Fire. Mono Rock is my nemesis. Especially Terrakion and Nihelego

[@ZombieKitty321]

@@jembozaba4864 the other team i run is bug, i feel you man

[@ricospencer6271]

Mono rock sucks but damn i was proud when i hit 1600, although i usually hover 1400-1500

[@nickmartin6835]

@@jembozaba4864 air balloon or av heatran takes care of nihi in my past, but I don’t know how the meta shapes up nowadays

[@linuxman7777]

As a gen 7 mono normal player, I really was mad this gen at how they treated normal types.

[@gammaf1365]

Ursaluna seems preeetty good tho

[@notyou6674]

get owned

[@remix2593]

@@gammaf1365 good, yes, but I don't think it's enough to save normal monotypes as a whole

[@gammaf1365]

@@remix2593 i'm being optimistic :(

[@Matuz12]

Me too, but this gen made monotype even worse than it already was

[@tommasocesarato3831]

It's sad to see how the dex limitations have affected competitive by giving players less room for original teams. For example, a mono grass could try to use rillaboom's grassy surge to boost serperior's contrary leaf storm and, as mentioned in the video, bug type could be so much more viable with the return of mega evolution.

[@drlavacookies7268]

I remember when sword and shield came out crustle was literally s tier among bug types. Not because it was good, but because every bug type pokemon that was better than crustle wasn't in the game.

[@OSoverspike]

The normal type being bad in monotype really makes you consider how few high bst normal type pokemon there are

[@captaindemozan2700]

And ones that DO have a high BST are given some balancing factor that works too well, like Regigigas and Slaking. Normal, on paper, is a good typing, but Game Freak is too scared to make viable normal types. It's a shame, because it's my favorite type.

[@Skeloperch]

@@captaindemozan2700 It's because Normal types were way too good in Gens 1 - 3. As soon as more Steel types (viable ones especially) started coming around, Normal's days were numbered. Gen 2 and 3 Normal could still be viable because Fighting didn't receive Close Combat yet so Normal was pretty safe defensively to make up for its lagging offenses.

[@plabcentral630]

You get dighersby, lax and indeedi(or however you spell it) and then you have to have the bull and 2 useless guys.

[@Kambyday]

@@captaindemozan2700 snorlax is probably the only exception

[@voguefurret]

I like to view Normal as a type that relies on high stats but not necessarily a high total, Blissey eating Special Attacks, Diggersby combining Huge Power + Earthquake and Ditto being essentially a faster version of everything, They heavily focus on a single aspect and does that to perfection but are vulnerable in other areas meaning team synergy is required

[@superfrubblez6123]

Rock is probably my favorite monotype team specifically because it’s genuinely garbage. Climbing up the ladder with it is so Sisyphusian but sometimes you can get a win where you really shouldn’t

[@YOOT_JJ]

You are a masochist.

[@christopherdangelo1292]

Totally relate, I run mono ice on a special showdown server in not only monotype, but in uu and even ou, and not only do I get satisfying wins, but I actually manage to get them somewhat consistently In case you are curious about this “different showdown server” let me give you details on the following changes: Mega abomasnow now has access to mountain gale (hisuian avalugg’s signature move) and it gets slush rush upon mega evolving. Glaceon now gets slush rush and earth power, and paired with having hidden power, it has near perfect coverage. Beartic now is ice/fighting, and has cc along with a buffed ice hammer that essentially is now and ice type version of eq. Mega glaile now has refrigerate fake outs and quick attacks. Garm gained ice hammer in exchange for 10 atk. Sevii Zeb was introduced, which is an ice/electric regional variant of unova Zeb who is actually a special attacker and can choose from two good abilities in lightning rod and a buffed illuminate for more accurate thunders and blizzards. Those are changes based on most of the mons I used on my various mono ice, and while I run hail in ou, in uu and monotype, I actually run spikes balance/semistall. Why is it semistall? It’s because of the two mainstays that I always bring no matter the mono ice team: Avalugg and dewgong. The former now has filter and it makes it an extremely effective physical tank, as well as increasing its hazard removal for the team, I even run iron defense+body press to beat most set up sweepers. Meanwhile gong…. It ended up getting ice scales and it has become infamous for making the server rage. Ice scales makes dewgong almost immortal on the special side. How immortal you may ask….? 32% From a zard y FOCUS BLAST. Yeah I don’t think I need to say more. Also to top that all off, thanks to the replacement of freeze with frostbite, frost breath basically becomes a stronger ice type scald that ignores boosts and crippled special attackers. And gong happily abuses it. Also, you may be wondering how it checks stuff like zard over the course of a game if it has no reliable recovery. Well good news, it can run rest talk viably. Which also ruins status attempts from poison and paralysis. Lastly, one thing to mention, this special showdown server also has a discord for monotype(called the type master discord) and along with me, the best player in that discord is a mono bug user, so seeing his type on the list will likely make him buzz over to freeze’s location.

[@iantaakalla8180]

It is more literally Sisyphean, in fact, given that the punishment is Sisyphus pushing up a rock up a hill that never seems stay up the hill. It’s a far better metaphor than you gave it.

[@some_hippies]

Incredible reference, well done

[@novameowww]

i see what you did there

[@jmcbango]

2:38 "for all its demerits..." damn ig grass types shouldve gotten a hall pass

[@minigungameryt2525]

I got to around 1450-1500 elo with mono fighting. it is FAR worse than rock, and it has nothing that can save it. If you see a tapu lele it's a 6-0, any good psychic or fairy team has lele, so 1/9 of types you fight against you auto lose. Let's see what else. It has to rely on Kommo-oh for 90% of the role compression duties. rocker, defensive tank with dragon's great resists, gengar stopgap, special attacker, etc once Kommo-oh and Coballion die, your team falls apart defensively and you start sacking left and right Rock has Shuckle, a pretty good webs and rocks setter, and even though it has no defensive utility, Nihilego and Tyranitar are really good on webs teams, and tyranitar in particular has really good coverage. +2 terrakion has no switch ins to its 3 coverage moves, (eq/megahorn + cc and stone edge beat everything, but you cant run both), and Cradily can attempt to try and win vs water Long story short, rock has some synergy going, even if it's type is very bad defensively, with it's good setup sweepers and hazard setters, even if it has similar defensive problems to fighting. Fighting literally loses to mono-steel a good portion of the time. A winning matchup. It also gets swept easily by Moltres-G on monodark if the player can do a bit of postitioning, and mono-ice can beat it through zolt and alolatales, as well as the rare chople kyruem for mono-bug. I'll admit it usually wins vs Mono-Normal, but like geez, that's setting the bar low. And mono rock ig but it's quite rare. It also does surprisingly decent vs water due to Croak and Virizon, but beating water is done much better by grass, who can also beat a relevant type in Ground, unlike Fighting who can't beat most of their super effective matchups. It doesn't even come close. Fighting is abysmal this gen. (btw im the commenter from freezai's monofighting vid)

[@TunaBear64]

You know is bad when Steel, Dark and Ice are usually bad matchup for the type

[@zero1343]

Ice can be pretty fun in these formats, although that could also be my bias for a Sandslash, Ninetails core which can also do surprisingly well in OU

[@djoaieuh3286]

I feel like mono grass perfectly draws the line between viable and unviable types. Everything above it is usable if played well (Ex : Psychic) and everything below it just feels like you're putting yourself at a disadvantage for no reason. Grass feels like a bit of both, it has a great shot at beating neutral matchups, and even matchups that could be considered to not be in your favor (Steel, Bug, Ice) if played perfectly. But at the same time, Flying is everywhere, Poison is a nightmare to deal with and Cinderace was created to 6-0 you. I just feel like it's a high risk high reward type of team, it can shine in the hands of a great player but why not just go for a more consistent type ? Thanks for coming to my TED Talk about mono grass. Also, fuck Cinderace.

[@GalacticNovie]

I just play mono grass because it's my favorite type :(

[@greninjadark-cu3qt]

Fortunately, I beat mono fire, mono poison, mono bug, mono flying and mono ice by using mono grass. I beat fire, poison, but, flying not only once but ice I only beat once.

[@Get_Ogre_Here]

Maybe do a tier list of each Gen from a competitive singles aspect, from your experience/knowledge of each Gen? That could be cool :)

[@mintyvin7038]

these are my favorite types of videos from you. appreciate it

[@skotiaH2O]

Great video! I'm waiting for one where you explain all the banned Pokémon exclusive to Monotype :)

[@anhuman5861]

really enjoying the monotype content!

[@naomiseadragon2676]

Yeah, I’m in a battle league and one season we did monotype teams. We were randomly assigned types that we could use for 4 weeks. I got poison, fire, fighting and rock. Fighting and rock were fun but it was a real up hill set of battles

[@jembozaba4864]

Mono-type is my preferred format. It's so much fun and proves that type match-ups don't mean everything. It just helps alot. I'll only ever use Mono-Fire and will ALWAYS have Charizard on there

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

Mono-Flying is my pick Why use defog and hazard when you have Xatu

[@jembozaba4864]

@@user-lq4ct6dr5m I like Cinderace and Court Change. It's a nice surprise that can catch people off guard.

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

@@jembozaba4864 Have seen that before( Lucky not against me ), quite shocked

[@jembozaba4864]

@@user-lq4ct6dr5m People usually use U-Turn. But I think this is better. Quite a good move. I love it. If they set up screens or sticky web or Aurora Veil, you can just steal it. It's so fun. Just have to be careful using it

[@John-yk4bp]

I wonder how terra will impact monotype, if it stays that is

[@Skeloperch]

@John Doe It's not likely they will ban it unless it becomes evident that they'd have to ban far too many Pokemon to make keeping it viable. It seems like just Regieleki will be banned at the moment, but since it's come to light that Tera lets you keep your previous STABs offensively, it could create some issues with Pokemon like Dragapult or Blaziken.

[@novameowww]

I think the most reasonable option for monotype is if they only allow the tera type that shares your team's type. Otherwise that'd kinda defeat the point

[@frozenfeet4534]

@@Skeloperch why is regieleki uniquely a problem

[@trainerrichard6859]

@@frozenfeet4534 it's the fastest pokemon in the game with free life orb on its stab, the only thing keeping it in check is that it gets 0 coverage. So if you can just turn into an ice type and completely destroy your counters I can see why it'd be a problem.

[@unknownmothergoose7909]

@@novameowww so basically, your main attacking mon gets a stronger stab

[@radguelunerazim2115]

Love to see the mention of my Bugs- I've been bouncing around top 200 with HO bugs in Natdex, and even though I get ROLLED by fire types I have a lot of fun.

[@MSabForUbersAgain]

Hey freezai, I loved the monotype video. I have been a viewer for a while but never commented, but I have a cool idea for a video on why marshadow was banned in both doubles and single. Just decided to comment because I thought it was cool.

[@ch5mist]

imo this is the best format on all of competitive, coming up with ways of having good answers to all the other types is so satisfying to me

[@robertm5110]

This is why many regions’ first gym leaders are Rock type. They’re the easiest to deal with.

[@benikujaku4567]

More like they're the ones who really teach the player about type advantages. They are almost sure to have something against rock‚ since 2/3 starters are quad super effective against Rock/Ground Pokémon‚ et they are basically unbeatable using regular Normal attacks

[@GKplus8]

@@benikujaku4567 And if the player chose the fire starter it teaches them to catch other mons to cover weaknesses (or how to overlevel your fire/fighting starter to brute force it)

[@mapleflake1586]

Love your content man

[@ChainsSSB]

Entered a monotype tourney where you get randomly assigned a type, and I got rock Needless to say I did not do well

[@thisisausername9356]

I tend to play Monotype teams in AG and I really do like it! As you said it forces you to be creative and it gave me a newfound love for bug type pokemon (They're surprisingly fun to use)

[@farfetchdthegamer3810]

As a flying mono player, I can confirm that that types pretty broken. Not only can you get great mons with good coverage, but you can often have three or more mins that don’t share any weakness at all.

[@Scott-mj3mg]

Hello fellow flying mono player

[@NellvinCervantes-gt4ot]

Then the electric-fighting hariyama comes in. Has bulk that can ice punch gliscor or landorous.

[@theweirdlyfriendlymushroom7920]

I'm a mono grass player and will always be a mono grass player Despite knowing how bad the type is supposed to be, the defensive core between cradily, ferrothorn and amongoos is incredibly sturdy, and rillaboom sweeping the late game is lethal. You often need perfect play because if you lose the important piece of the matchup you crumble down, but it's still so fun and satisfying.

[@JovanaSanchez000]

I demand the top 5 "Just Ok" types!

[@TunaBear64]

Considering Flying, Steel, Electric, Dragon and Fairy were the best and Grass, Bug, Normal, Fighting and Rock are the worst That only leaves Water, Ice, Fire, Ground, Poison, Ghost, Psychic and Dark, maybe a full tier list would be better.

[@liziecristina4533]

I've never played a competitive pokemon match, but I admit it's interesting to see videos like this. I wonder if my fighting style would be good in competitive

[@Duppy0906]

Cant wait for SV videos

[@zeldaholic777]

i would also like to see you talk about national dex monotype

[@Menion98]

I haven’t played monotype since early gen 7 because the mods are on crack with their ban decisions and hard on for the steel type. But I’m surprised ghost was on this list. I guess it got passively buffed with Megas no longer being in the game

[@crocworks]

I always enjoy playing monotype doubles, but there isn't really anything in showdown for it, so I just take it into OU doubles. I was having a lot of fun with Monotype Rock in doubles since Lyanroc can sand rush and be an excellent sweeper, and I'd run it alongside Sand Stream Gigalith or Tyranitar. Plus, sandstorm boosts rock special defenses to try and buckle down defensively and then run a trick room team with Diancie or Stakataka. Stab Rock Slide can be a strong tool in doubles, and there are a few rocks that get a useful Wide Guard.

[@furutapark]

What would make a fair monotype tournament format? Something like Best of 5 where the loser gets to ban 2 types each player can use?

[@jjt171]

that sounds like an awesome idea. if we use fighting game formats where we treat types as a "stage" then the loser can ban a type snd they can fight a different team. the only downside is that some types might only have one or two bad mus and banning them would make them OP

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

@@jjt171 yeah, but so long as the type ban is only a team comp ban and not an individual mon ban, then you can still build around a secondary type to keep the pressure up. I.e. they ban ground and are playing electric, you can roll mono steel with excadrill and a few eq mons, or run mono dragon for garchomp, or really rub salt in the wound with gastrodon, swampert, whiscash, and seismitoad on a mono water team...

[@_ZeroMaximum_]

I guess Dwayne Johnson is considered to be the worst pokemon type in the game.

[@ryanmarcus3970]

Dwayne Johnson pokemon die so fast; it makes me furious

[@Takapon218]

@@ryanmarcus3970 why are they dying!? When did Pokémon get that dark??

[@Mijzelffan]

grass' inherent disadvantage is that smogon banned kartana

[@Smallsmallrose]

I was a mono-ice player in gen 5, I simply enjoyed the thrill of trying to win with a very challenging team to use. It was crazy the things you had to do to not get folded over super quickly by certain types/mons.

[@sakutaro3musik486]

normal is my favorite type and I hope gen 9 gives it some love I have seen some cool normal pokemon in this gen ^-^

[@Pokefan0009]

I remember back in Gen 7 i used to run mono rock with a mixed attacker Kabutops. It was made to specifically 1 shot offensive Mega-Swampert with Giga Drain, rain mega swampert was just so prominent.

[@sakutaro3musik486]

could you make a video what would the normal type need to be good? Like better pokemon basestats, more type combinations, moves etc? Since it is my favorite time I wounder what it needs to be good

[@ryane5281]

I made a tier list pretty recently, mostly based on usage rates, that agrees with this list aside from having ice at 4th bottom and bug not in the bottom 4 at all.

[@theiceman4494]

I actually tried mono rock, and it's actually quite fun. You get fantastic Pokemon. Gigalith is a good lead with sand stream, and stealth rock and custap berry explosion. Tyranitar is, well... tyranitar. Rhyperior with assault vest makes a good offensive tank with edgequake and coverage like ice punch and heat crash. Barbaracle is perhaps the best shell smasher around besides the non rock cloyster, and Nihilego with power herb meteor beam can spiral out of control very quickly. Lycanroc dusk is a great choice band revenge killer, and there are other strong options like Tyrantrum and Terrakion. Of course, this is all held back by the weaknesses, and mono fighting is nearly impossible to beat with rock.

[@pichuperez9037]

My favorite thing about the rock type is that half of the Pokémon you just listed have a quad weakness lmao. Although the fact that you listed 2 of top 3 favorite rock types on that list is pretty great.

[@justinr.507]

Now that both the best and worst types are done. What is the most neutral type for mono-type ?

[@BucketsnG10ves]

The niche of rock is access to sticky webs and extremely powerful offensive threats like Scarf Terrakion, Power Herb Meteor Beam Nihilego and Tyranitar to take care of weakened teams. The type was definitely better in Gen 7 with access to Diancie-Mega and Golem-Alola, but there are some cheese strats with Weakness Policy Rhyperior or Storm Drain Cradily to nullify some of the problem mons that rock can run into. The single biggest issue with rock is a lack of good ground immune Pokémon, since rock/flying options are generally gimmicky or straight up bad. Being unable to avoid hazards or earthquakes, while your only good spinner is Coalossal, is definitely the biggest weakness of Gen 8 rock type

[@VitorAugusto231]

Want to see the top 5 most underrated types in monotype

[@MV-xl8eg]

Can you do a video on the Gen 5 weather dominated OU?

[@not_relevant1353]

What about a video about the best and worst secondary types for monotype? So like, the best or worst coverage types to have on teams.

[@MidoriMushrooms]

I clicked this knowing my favorite type would be here and I was not disappointed.

[@markrenton6174]

I was about to complete after a whole week, the whole collection of monotype teams, strategically set for monotype battles, within its own, quite different playstyle, where a single move can override whole teams... I just need to adjust my normal and psychic teams. I gotta say while playing, i feel the safest with ghost, with only dark teams being serious threat, normal and ghost teams may be tricky, but for the rest... I really feel the safest with ghost team, might be related with having both eviolite dusclops and corsola that allow to survive and override almost every enemy sweeper, i set dusclops to counter special enemies and corsola for physical via strength sap. The team I got most loses consecutively is with bug and grass, pretty much every team has a fire, rock or ice move that can harm most of my team, or the whole specially via stab

[@Spenstaple]

I am a Grass and Bug type trainer. I know my types are really weak but it’s really fun to play my favorite types and especially win against match ups I should be dominated by.

[@zer0hak]

I was astonished not seeing Ice on the list, up until the honorable mentions. I guess gen 8 DID give Ice Darminatan and Arctozolt though, which are straight up staples on Ice teams now. Though the composition sort of requires at least the following four: Darm, Zolt, Ninetales, and Avalugg.

[@thedude-nf1uf]

Don't sleep on that quiver dance/ strength sap bellossom lol. That man can singled handedly win some match ups

[@dataraxia3520]

"Please subscribe. It's free and doesn't cost you anything." Free AND doesn't cost you anything? What a deal! Love you Freezai. Good luck getting to 100k!!

[@RickRaptor105]

I can't wait for Gen 9 Monotype with Terastallization

[@Revolupine]

Being a Grass stan is difficult sometimes, but that won’t stop me from sticking with my favorite type!

[@Trikip_]

I’m aware it’s bad, but I think bug is the most fun team to use. I dislike playing defensive generally, so being forced and expected to play with all out offense is great. Unfortunately, Gen 8 got rid of Yanmega, but I got more sweeps with tinted lens on that thing than any other team I’ve ever used, let alone any one pokemon.

[@bounce9568]

I’ve been playing mono rock since gen 6, and it definitely feels like I’m using the worst type. Especially in pre-update SWSH, pre-bans, those were wretched months. Litterally the only way to stop Dracovish from just KOing your entire team was like max defense Dreadnaw with counter. It was absolute hell. It still is, its just slightly more tolerable now. God I miss Mega Diancie

[@NigerianSeafood]

mono normal bout to go CRAZY with ursalna, though!

[@yomigg72]

Hey I play national dex monotype and I find grass to be very viable, Serperior can sweep a lot of teams, Breloom and Rillaboom are great setup and cleanup mons with priority moves, Ferrothorn and Mega Venusaur are a powerful defensive core and Whimsicott provides great utility and fairy coverage. I'm honestly surprised at how often I beat mono flying and mono fire. However, I do consistently get 6-0d by unburden Hawlucha

[@wimbojimbo6389]

I participated in a monotype tournament with a mono rock team. We made the finals but lost 3-1 to ground

[@legosto8695]

Can you make a video about HP vs Def/Sp.Def EVs. I always get confused of what do while making my team.

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

Personally I have fun breaking out monotypes in non-monotype settings. In some cases, it's actually easier, cause you don't get, for instance, a full rock team vs a full ground team

[@luisantoniovacamolina2362]

I'm very curious about how will Terastallyzing will work out on Mono-Types

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

Probably it'll be huge for removing your type

[@cardinalofclubs8471]

As someone who moved from mono Bug to mono Fighting, that type shouldn’t be as low as it is. Despite the type itself being miserable, it has enough amazing Pokémon with enough synergy to reliably beat most teams down quickly, including some of its weak types. But that’s exactly what mono Bug has, plus a garbage matchup against Water: what pushes Fighting over the edge IMO is Toxicroak exactly. This Pokémon gives Fighting a defensive backbone that the offensive types on this list simply do not have. Great video, and you did an excellent job explaining why each type is as good or bad as it is. I’d personally say the worst types are: (worst to best) Rock, Normal, Grass, Bug, and Ice, with a dishonorable mention to post-ban Dark and Fighting.

[@jacobhebert667]

Doing a run in pokemon white where I'm all bug. Got leavanny. Scolipede, crustle, galvantula, escavalier, accelgor. On the 7th gym

[@elilopez6260]

My "solution" for each one on the list Grass - Let em use Shaymin Sky Bug - Let em use Pheromosa Normal - Fuck it just let em play by inverse battle rules Fighting - Let em use Zamazenta Crowned Rock - Permanent sandstorm and rocks fuck it

[@pulledpork9778]

Mono bug has a secret defensive trump card against hyper offensive teams, especially mono electric: shedinja. If the bug user can remove the opponent’s pokemon with status / super effective coverage moves, boots shedinja can become an auto-win button

[@Nako3]

Ice is going to get even better in gen 9 :D

[@NellvinCervantes-gt4ot]

Also Scizor as a mono bug can spam bullet punch against mono rock. It's only counter is coalossal as it has flame body body and great advantage against Scizor but Scizor has access to close combat and can even beat heatran. And also no rock-ghost type yet so they very vulnerable against fighting attacks. They can only neutralize fighting by rock-flying, rock-poison and rock-bug but shuckle is the only one I can remember who has bulk.

[@BCJacobe]

I thought I should give context on mono bug as a mono bug connoisseur. In gen 6, bug types were definitely in the top 5. Mega Beedrill, Pinsir, and even Heracross brought solid physical attacks and coverage, Volcarona could sweep, Forretress and Shuckle set up or removed hazards, and Volbeat prankster tail glow into baton pass or twave + confuse ray or tailwind to help maintain speed advantage. In gen 7 the type fell off in popularity, especially with many defensive teams proving too difficult to punch through. Then, in gen 8, but lost so many of its core Pokémon. No more mega sweepers, no prankster Volbeat, and no way to keep up with power creep besides Centiskorch countering fire teams as long as they don’t have rock moves. I think what bug needs more than anything are more consistent physical attackers, less Crustles and more Scizors. Some of the leaked Pokémon look very promising!

[@jordantyler148]

Grass is one of the funnest types to play, and has a couple ways to break pex

[@NellvinCervantes-gt4ot]

And ogerpon-heartflame can now destroy amoonguss or Venusaur.

[@jordantyler148]

@@NellvinCervantes-gt4otwell nat Dex banned hearthflame, and whenever one of the gen 9 monotype council remembers about the format, it will get banned there too.

[@ZoofyZoof]

"Subscribe, it's free and doesn't cost you anything" It costs my recommended being filled with your videos more than I'm comfortable with

[@2amskypecall]

I think Fire could on the list instead of Grass. It only really has good matchups against trash types (Ice, Grass, Bug) as well as Steel. And in my experience it often gets 6-0d by the random ground sweeper (ex. Moxie Scarf Krook with rock coverage) or any swift swim sweeper. Hell, it has a hard time against random mons just carrying common rock/eq coverage since it’s such a bad defensive type. While grass is a worse type objectively, I think it performs better against more teams, as well as the most common ones.

[@hajoeijgenraam295]

As a fire player i feel they have plenty of resources to deal with their weaknesses. It is similar to electric in the frightening power that sun boosted moves can carry even when resisted. Cinderace is fast with flexible typing, heatran tanky with excellent typing and stallbreaking capabilities. Scarf victini V create will tear through almost anything and would probably be the best answer my team has to your krookodile example. You can hardly make a safe switch because of the sheer power of v create

[@sagacious03]

3:02 Honestly, it surprises me that Bug is apparently good as an OFFENSIVE Monotype playstyle, considering that Bug is SE on 3 types, weak to 3 types... & RESISTED by SEVEN types. But yeah, it sounds like Monotype got really screw up by Generation 8. The loss of Z-Moves, Megas, & tons of Pokemon & moves.... Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@SkippyKairos]

Can’t grass types theoretically over preform with status conditions? I know there is the sleep clause but is there anything else that hinders the viability of status like accuracy?

[@thomasraaberg8400]

Rock is underrated tbh. Sand stream T-tar and gigalith ensure big spdef. Nihelgo can act as a blissey with attacking stats. Cradily with water absorb can reduce one of the biggest threats over all. Terrakion has been underrated since gen 6 with faries, but with its big stats it’s a huge damage dealer. And lycanrock can also do big damage. Definitely not the best, but has way more potential than most people think. I got to like 13-1400 ish on showdown with a rock monotype team

[@DarkMario277]

As someone who's played a lot of Rock mono; it's not underrated at all, it's just bad. Having "big stats" and doing "big damage" doesn't really matter when the type itself is horrible defensively and lacks a lot of good synergy within itself. For example, while Water Absorb on Cradily is nice, it doesn't do much in other MUs other than maybe tank a hit or 2 and then die. Even then in the Water MU it won't stop Urshifu-R from 6-0ing your whole team with Close Combat (and Surging Strikes after Cradily has inevitably fainted at some point). Even in MUs where you'd THINK Rock would be good, like vs Bug, it's incredibly difficult to not get 6-0'd by Scizor, Heracross and Buzzwole should they get even a single advantageous turn. Rock does have some advantages like having access to pretty much every entry hazard and some pretty strong setup sweepers, but other than that, it's a "do-or-die" type in the worst possible way.

[@Kevmane_the_bird]

I feel like I'm noticing a pattern in the pokemon Freezai likes to use as examples for things... Like Gyarados (or Swampert)

[@presidenttogekiss635]

I would argue that Ditto with its infinite PP is actually pretty useful at beating the regen cores of mono poison.

[@Calemad]

I play mostly mono-bug, usually can get around 1500 but it has so many hard counters that you just have no way to deal with, not even type-wise but just pokemon themselves that can easily solo a mono-bug team. You say bugs should play offensive, but most bugs can't afford that as their STAB is resisted by SEVEN types, and they usually have dogshit for coverage, having extremely limited movesets. Not only that, the moves they do get usually are not good, with fucking megahorn lottery being the best STAB offensive option. Did I mention that bug doesn't get any sort of terrain or weather either? GF had the perfect chance to make bug decent when they introduced fairy types, but instead just gave them an even bigger middle finger by making fairy resist bug.

[@pining_tree6788]

I wonder if gen 9 monotype will also require the teratype to match or if they’ll enable any teratype

[@Cracky003]

Wild. In AG(I'm fairly good), mono grass is one of my strongest teams... Of course said team does have 3 kartanas...

[@lock_checker4342]

I still think the Fire Red Littlelocke was one of the best videos he's ever made haha

[@professorannefaire7233]

It's funny cuz back in Gen 4 when I played a lot with my friends and such I ran a mono Rock team that was basically all fossils and it was one of the better teams in that kind of playground context

[@sandroeschen9552]

Again, when I was in a Monotype tournament I used Wormadam in order to get around Electric types

[@ashleyblack7419]

in gen 6 I've partaken in a monotype tournament on my discord. I ended up winning with a normal type team. every player was allowed to use 1 legendary My team was Arceus Blissey Ditto Pideot (Mega) smeargle Spinda (contrary + superpower) it's been a while but I sure remember that that team hasn't lost a single battle when that tournament ran also I only used arceus in one battle literally. Sure normal type ain't the strongest one in the game but it can become a real threat when you know how. (dunno if gen 9 would make much of a difference sind that tournament was in 2015 but I remember beating a dragon monotype team confidently)

[@RickRaptor105]

Another indicator for how bad Mono Rock has always been: during Gen 6 its go-to-Mega Evolution was Aggron because it loses its Rock type and just becomes a solid, pure Steel type

[@echogaia1708]

To be fair, Grass can win vs Toxapex + amoonguss if amoonguss doesn't run clear smog. Zarude can run a mono dark bulk up set that beats both of them thanks to Taunt + Jungle healing. You need Drapion/Nidoking gone or sevearly weakened and spikes greatly helps with that. Sludge Bomb can be annoying but guss actually rarely runs it in mono poison anyway.

[@XavierKaziTheZombie]

Bug is one of my favorite monotype teams, but for the love of Arceus give us Foretress back

[@WASD_ii]

Ngl was praying this whole time that ice wouldn't be on the list, I just wanted to believe for a sec that defense doesn't matter and and that does is hitting shit

[@WastedMotorcycle]

I'd have thought Poison would make the list since it has many weaknesses and some of the worst offensive options outside stalling. But I guess it does have decent enough Pokemon

[@ohok9356]

Poison only has two weaknesses and one type it can’t hit with poison moves, but it has Pokémon that which can cover those weaknesses and also it’s extremely good defensively, with all of its regenerator mons. As someone who’s played it, it’s overall middling. Not bad, certainly not a top contender, but overall, pretty decent.

[@Bluzlbee]

even if I play casual, seeing rock typing always looked like a disaster

[@patricklynch4074]

Something else to mention, what is rock's best merit: sandstorm. Congrats you just set up sand for sand rush sweepers

[@CptManboobs]

So who wins in a 1v1, mono Ice or Mono Rock? When we pit the "worst" mono-type teams together, who performs the best?

[@TunaBear64]

Ice has Garm to destroy Ttar, and Arctozolt can sweep without weather opposition

[@kenseidawanderer]

Ice is generally better. In a vacuum, Ice seems worse, but having access to Vanilluxe/A-Ninetales for hail and Aurora Veil, as well as G-Darm, Weavile and Arctozolt for smashing through opposing Pokemon, keep it from going completely kaput.

[@tiaguinho_samba]

As a mono fighting player, gen 9 is looking pretty good Great tusk with the ground type, and some new fighting types that were leaked

[@naturalharmoniagropius4486]

Tbh, I've been doing monotype most of the time on Showdown. I see why I struggle on Mono-Grass

[@BHRA78]

PokeCypher2016 really was the best one Shofu and the others made

[@firephd]

I was under the impression ice was gonna be on this list (bc of its horrible defensive values). I guess its great offense and hail saves it Edit: I didn't see the honorable mention when I thped this :3

[@Jeenzzz]

I found thick fat appleton to be a better wall than cradily tbh!

[@Arceus-dicklick]

Bug or steel gives you access to scizor and fortress

[@Baasudei]

omg you used that gravity game with me in so often now but I would like people to know I won that game

[@kenseidawanderer]

Pretty clever. Gravity is pretty underrated, especially when you wanna dispatch the likes of Celesteela and Corviknight.