Freight and Railtour action at Carlisle - Sat 24th August 2024

[@theretrocrowe]

Excellent video mate, I was at Preston this day and saw many of these moves myself - the 50s and logs being particular highlights. The incident with Tangmere being dragged like that has certainly caused quite a stir online.

[@OldOakTrains]

Thanks. Yes, but saw Tangmere again yesterday (at Carlisle) and there was no wheel dragging then, thankfully! 👍😊

[@craigryan3069]

Going to have some lovely BIG flats on 34067 driving wheels 😆

[@OldOakTrains]

Those of us on the platform couldn’t understand how it had happened. Brakes left on? deliberately? surely not! Anyhow, as you can see in the video, Tangmere returned, supposedly unharmed, at its allotted time for the return leg and left as scheduled. Perhaps someone who was actually on the tour could shed some light on what happened?

[@gibbo675]

@@OldOakTrains Bullied Pacifics have an independent steam brake that once it is applied does not react to any variation of the train pipe pressures much in the same way that a straight air brake works on a diesel or electric locomotive. The steam brakes of the locomotive are however regulated via a vacuum proportionality system when running a vacuum fitted train and when running in air brake mode the vacuum system is servo controlled via an air vacuum proportionality valve however the independent brake handle must be released for this to work properly. As for flats it will have likely gone over the lathe at Carnforth although the tyres are thin ad it wont have done them any good for there will be localised heating in the area where the flats would have been worn into the tyres which could cause loose tyres or even a fractured tyre as worst case.

[@OldOakTrains]

@@gibbo675 Thanks for the info. Tangmere was running a tour yesterday, and there was no ‘dragging’ when being pulled out at Carlisle, so it would appear there was no long term damage from the week before’s incident. 😊

[@cams2575]

OP... Have you reported the events on this vt post 6mins 30 to the railway authorities? I guess the ORR, police or west coast? Other trains have to pass over this line. You were there and got this on vt? Do you think this was ok?

[@OldOakTrains]

Assume you are referring to Tangmere’s wheels locking? I’m guessing it wasn’t “OK”, but if I’m honest I’m not qualified to comment on whether it was a significant incident or not, certainly not to the point that it needed to be reported - to whom I’m not sure in any case. I wasn’t the only one observing/ filming that day, including station and railway staff, so would defer to someone with more knowledge as to whether this required reporting. I’ve no problem with my post being tagged as ‘evidence’ of what occurred, if anyone wants to take this further. 😊