Friday Freakout: Skydive Student Spins Wildly Out of Control

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WHAT HAPPENED
We don't have much information about this skydive because the video was submitted with minimal comment from the student, who was at a non-US dropzone. (We don't know if it was a USPA affiliate.) This was described as a AFF "Level 6 jump." In short, the student went into a flat spin and the instructor attempted to stop it but largely failed. They then lost control of the student, the instructor sunk out, and watched the student deploy from a hundred feet away. The student reported some line twists but landed safely. Sadly, the incident caused the student to quit skydiving, they stated, "It's too dangerous (maybe I'll go to the wind tunnel)..."
WHY DID IT HAPPEN
Questionable Instruction
Again, we have minimal information on this jump, but suffice to say that this whole incident appears to have happened due to a instructor who either didn't have the confidence, or the ability, to get in there and stop a rotation that rapidly put their student into the spin cycle. Admittedly, once a student starts spinning, staying on level - let alone get in there and stop the spin - becomes much harder. However, the video is deeply suggestive of an issue with the instruction here.
First, while we know that sometimes a great student suddenly has a brain fart, this jumper does not look like they had the control requisite to pass their Cat C jump. Further, while - yes - the instructor initially attempted to stop the spin, it needs to be noted is that, as one experienced AFF-I put it, "The student never earned the right to be released after that. The instructor should have held on until the student corrected the body position before being released."
HOW COULD IT BE PREVENTED
Enforcement of Standards
We normally love to crack jokes and add some light humor into Friday Freakout, but this is a particularly rough video, and it sadly made someone think that a sport dedicated to safety, is too dangerous for them. The first way this could have been prevented was by the jumper having not been cleared for this level of AFF jump. Further, if this instructor wasn't capable of handling this type of instruction, they shouldn't have been allowed to take a student up. No student should be allowed to go up into the air with an instructor who is incapable of assessing the need for them to intervene in a flat spin and then making that intervention. Lastly, if you know your student is of a body size you cannot fly with, you should have good enough judgment to have someone else take them up.
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[@TEEMsky]

*WHAT HAPPENED* We don't have much information about this skydive because the video was submitted with minimal comment from the student, who was at a non-US dropzone. (We don't know if it was a USPA affiliate.) This was described as a AFF "Level 6 jump." In short, the student went into a flat spin and the instructor attempted to stop it but largely failed. They then lost control of the student, the instructor sunk out, and watched the student deploy from a hundred feet away. The student reported some line twists but landed safely. Sadly, the incident caused the student to quit skydiving, they stated, "It's too dangerous (maybe I'll go to the wind tunnel)..." *WHY DID IT HAPPEN* Questionable Instruction Again, we have minimal information on this jump, but suffice to say that this whole incident appears to have happened due to a instructor who either didn't have the confidence, or the ability, to get in there and stop a rotation that rapidly put their student into the spin cycle. Admittedly, once a student starts spinning, staying on level - let alone get in there and stop the spin - becomes much harder. However, the video is deeply suggestive of an issue with the instruction here. First, while we know that sometimes a great student suddenly has a brain fart, this jumper does not look like they had the control requisite to pass their Cat C jump. Further, while - yes - the instructor initially attempted to stop the spin, it needs to be noted is that, as one experienced AFF-I put it, "The student never earned the right to be released after that. The instructor should have held on until the student corrected the body position before being released." *HOW COULD IT BE PREVENTED* Enforcement of Standards We normally love to crack jokes and add some light humor into Friday Freakout, but this is a particularly rough video, and it sadly made someone think that a sport dedicated to safety, is too dangerous for them. The first way this could have been prevented was by the jumper having not been cleared for this level of AFF jump. Further, if this instructor wasn't capable of handling this type of instruction, they shouldn't have been allowed to take a student up. No student should be allowed to go up into the air with an instructor who is incapable of assessing the need for them to intervene in a flat spin and then making that intervention. Lastly, if you know your student is of a body size you cannot fly with, you should have good enough judgment to have someone else take them up.

[@bryana5805]

Respectfully, the comments in the "Why did it Happen" section are inappropriate. Meaning too mild. Sorry... The instructor should be instantly banned for life and publicly shamed. I understand your willingness to stay moderately neutral, but this is malpractice at its second highest level. The death of the student would be the only higher level. I can bet this wasn't the first time the student went into a flat spin with this instructor. The student was unstable from the beginning. Granted, not badly out of control, but significantly enough for the gap between instructor and student to be much smaller.

[@JamesSaine]

You are being gracious and politically correct as it relates to the instructor. I was so angry at the instructor after watching this! I have 4K+ jumps, but I am not an AFF instructor. BUT for F*ck sake, instructor, stop being an AFF coach!

[@hexatus]

FYI This DZ is USPA affiliate

[@marksmith9176]

This is the first AFF instructor that I have seen on this channel who didn’t risk their own life to help a student. Maybe only in America we have badass brave instructors who will risk it all for the student.

[@carpetdiemsam]

Appearantly, the instructor has a faster fall rate than the student when the student got into the flat spin. I think he tried to slow down the fall, but he just couldn't do it. That's why I always suggest instructors should have a slower fall rate than students. If you are a big guy, it's a good idea that you put your camera jacket on.

[@Rippers-TV]

AFF instructor from WISH. That was unbelievably terrible.

[@Yankee_Uniform]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TEEMsky]

🤣🤣☠️

[@akimikalis8243]

This AFF-I should be grounded and forced to retrain. This is ridiculous.

[@JackJohnson1970]

Legend says that the student is still spinning to this day

[@skydiverclassc2031]

Generated 1.8 gigawatts of power by now.

[@subtlename2873]

She got going so fast she didn't need a parachute. First non-helicopter auto rotate I've seen to date.

[@TomP-nw4wu]

Possible spin off series this fall on the tv?

[@chrispbacon550]

Right! And she wasn’t outta control she was trying to break the world record for the most 360’s before 5,000’.

[@MrSimonw58]

S* lodged in the socks

[@rikardnilsson2413]

She identifies herself as a helicopter!

[@raypippin4061]

The super fun part of this video is accepting the inevitable fact that, not only was there a decision tree that led to this dumpster fire of a jump, but that it was actually followed to fruition. Well done, sir. She certainly learned her lesson.

[@jptothetree]

The idea of something like _this_ happening to me during AFF was the reason I decided to do 30 minutes of tunnel time before I even started. These kinds of videos always freaked me out and that tunnel time helped me breeze through my student jumps. I feel like she's lucky she didn't black out!! And I'm really curious what the instructor was even there for 🧐 He didn't bother to help her when she really needed him to. Scary to watch.

[@techbluestuff]

I do agree... I'm at the training at the moment (first free fall jump coming soon), i will report how it went without tunnel (or not if die lol)

[@RaiveeOff]

​@@techbluestuffЧерт, теперь я жду этого😂

[@techbluestuff]

hAHAHAHA Will post video @@RaiveeOff

[@navyplumberboy8274]

​@@techbluestuffhow did it go? Think im gonna do without tunnel as well. That shits just a ridiculous amount of money. Over 500 dollars for 30 minutes or 399 for ten minutes. Wtf? Might as well get 2 aff jumps in for that price.

[@kdup505]

When NASCAR meets skydiving: WOOOOOO, WE'RE MAKING A LEFT TUUUURRRN 🍺🍺🍻🍻

[@richardcook1987]

There's always a southpark joke somewhere. Viva la south park!

[@ahgflyguy]

I’m a hang glider pilot with two tandem jumps and about ten minutes in a wind tunnel. This student saying she’s done jumping, but might get into the tunnel is a sign of a very wise person. She knows what she doesn’t know: body control. She knows the best place to learn it: the tunnel. I just hope she also knows, but was just kinda leaving out, that her instructor was inadequate to keep her safe on that jump, and that she needs to find better instruction before she ever decides to go up again. I’ve been in a similar-ish situation being taught paragliding by an inadequate instructor. I stopped. It was the only reasonable choice.

[@dsoccer3187]

Can I ask what state the inadequate paragliding instructor was in? Just curious where that might be happening.

[@ahgflyguy]

@@dsoccer3187 this was 15 years ago, but it was in Las Vegas. If you’re interested, I’d say that the way to start is by asking to front what the safety curriculum looks like, how that part of it is taught, and at what stage in the instruction. I dated the communications director for the National hang gliding and paragliding association for several years. The paragliding instruction curriculum and the paragliding curriculum for prospective instructors was just not well developed then. And I have no idea if it’s better now.

[@BensSpider]

Instructor f.cked off and left the student to sort their own shit out. Wow😢 I’ve seen this happen before where the student was spinning so fast it seemed a blur, instructor got in there stopped the spin and deployed them, …… instructor went mental when back on the ground though …. 😬

[@darksparkyshark430]

Why did he go mental?

[@dominicwalker1899]

Just seeing that student still spinning in the distance and the instructor doing nothing was hilarious 😂

[@jamesneil7716]

She could’ve spun to the next dimension with how fast she was going. Great job on the instructor on just leaving his student 🙄 not sure what he was thinking.

[@KasperKubica]

Had this exact experience in a Cat C or Cat D - after a few rotations, my instructor came in and grabbed my foot, immediately stopping the spin. She treated it like nbd after landing and suggested I hit the tunnel before my next jump. If it hadn't been for the casual competence of my instructor, I probably would've quit the sport, too.

[@sanfranciscobay]

The Student definitely knows how to flat spin to the left.

[@subtlename2873]

She misread the dive flow. It was a 180 degree turn. She saw 180,000 degrees

[@FluxServ]

This is due to the Coriolis effect, and earths rotation. If this had been in the southern hemisphere she would have spun to the right. I'm 97.14159265359% sure....

[@NomeEcognome0]

Hi everyone, I have a novice question: Is it so difficult for a student to maintain a stable position? I would like to take the aff course so thanks to those who answer me!

[@abadialsharif8537]

I had this spin in my PFF but my instructor reacted differently. He stopped my spin with his hands despite the injury that might come. I’m glad I had him.

[@briantruxtonjr.6108]

"Good luck dawg" Dude was thinking about dinner in the next zip code LOL

[@ivpR1220]

Well done mr. instructor 🤦🏻‍♂️ This guy should lost his credentials as AFF Instructor

[@frankn8151]

Exactly what I came to the comments to say🤘

[@prenomhnomh1232]

Same ! Like he dont give a sh*t !! My instructor saved me one year ago, i would be dead if he done nothing

[@grege3638]

100%

[@Billbeaux]

Yeah and that person probably should stay on the ground

[@Derek_Garnham]

and who exactly got you to the point of being in a situation where you needed your life saving? - you or an instructor? @@prenomhnomh1232

[@CptBongue]

Thanks for the help, instructor

[@ricomorales3879]

For all thats curious like i was, its a dropzone in northern Italy, molinella i believe

[@Underhills]

Now that's what I call Accelerated free fall.

[@hpAndromeda]

Everyone is fairly criticizing the instructor but this is the student's fault as well. The student was out of control for at least 35 seconds and forgot the 5-second rule and didn't pull. I am a skydiving student and I am struggling with stability. I have been spinning out of control in all possible directions a few times but I stuck with my EP and always pulled after 5 seconds.

[@benbazy9238]

The issue is the instructor. An instructor is expected to be able to match the students fall rate, if he or she cannot match it then they should not be flying with the student, even if the student goes into a flat spin they should be capable of matching the fall rate.

[@bigb3n011]

instructor seeming to be looking UP with whole head is part of the problem when he initially sunk out 5 feet after catch and release. this is basic stuff..

[@irondark98]

The drop zone is in Italy. It is located in Molinella (BO) and the name of the drop is FLYGANG. I think I also know the instructor from wish😂💀

[@rollietyler9366]

Before starting skydiving it is best to recommend the Wind Tunnel to everyone. When you go to an AFF, I don't know if they recommend it in the EU but you should do them all. Because people don't know about it.

[@richardcook1987]

Turns to the left, nailed it.

[@ZeroSpawn]

This is a perfect 78 left hand turn AFF. 10/10 PASS!

[@yz2508]

must have been his ex

[@Mesatsu]

Flat spinning, rolling out of control and high pull all happened to me while doing the AFF. I repeated 5 jumps during the course until pass. There is nothing wrong with these things happen, neither the student nor the instructor. It literally the part of the skydiving experience. More experience you gain, more comfortable you are up there. As long as you remember to pull, you are good.

[@timlandrum824]

Dz: you're fired instructor. Student: great job

[@sanfranciscobay]

She must be in the Southern Hemisphere because she is spinning to the left. If she was in the Northern Hemisphere, she would flat spin to the right due to the Corealis Effect: On the earth, the effect tends to deflect moving objects to the right in the northern hemisphere and to the left in the southern and is important in the formation of cyclonic weather systems.

[@Dizzyswoops]

No, in that case she would have stollen his main by 5K

[@skyedits420]

🤣

[@trentdozier7]

Im curious to know what was wrong with their body position that caused this? Not looking up? Thats all i can plainly see incorrect in their arch.

[@sapphicsandwich6890]

"Team rocket blasting off againnnnnn!"

[@ItsFranksWorld]

I went into a spin today on my DF3 with in few seconds of being released. Smacked my instructor on the head with my food, but he still got me out of the spin and stable.

[@natural9743]

If you look closely you can see how much the student loved to spin, after exit she does her first spin and especially after she let go of instructor.

[@ANARCHY_13]

You spin me right round, baby right round!

[@TEEMsky]

Left round. Left.

[@skydvrn]

Like a record baby

[@LegalTyranny]

Saved. Too hard not to laugh at this even though I know it's serious.

[@georgerogero3185]

I had something like that happened one time when I was jumping with some one who only was a few jumps off student status. I was not an instructor. We did a quick two-way and broke it and he just went into a flat spin. He was bouncing around so much I couldn’t close and then he was going so fast I didn’t want to. The spin got so fast. He finally just pulled like that student did. When I landed, I went to the DZ owner and told him he had to go back on student status.

[@ellie8598]

What the actual FUCK. I can’t even look at spinning without feeling Ill. Why did he not help the poor girl and just let her go. What if she passed out?

[@maxmee18]

Instuctor should have pulled for him the first time he was spinning...

[@Umetnik]

The ol' banana propeller. Funny.

[@Art--Deco]

🎶🎶 Like a record baby, right round, round round....... 🎶🎶 OOH-ooh-OOH-ohh-OOH-OOOOOOOOOOOH!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@Stinky0368]

Bro turned into a ceiling fan

[@courtneyapple4508]

Stop it 🤣

[@mohdadani2367]

The Instructor is fully responsible for this incident... thats it..!!! Thank God she landed safely and ALIVE

[@HannaMontana203]

“Helicopter Helicopter…”))

[@TwilightSun32]

once I've seen a student after such a spin. We called she 'red-eyed' after that, she looks quite scary ... but in few days whites of her eyes became white again. she successfully finished AFF (instructor managed to fix issues in next jumps). also I've seen another instructor that have got dislocation of finger when he catch a spinning studend so spins are quite a dangerous thing

[@adrianosejo7259]

The Aff instructor had spin to 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mikymike7841]

You spin my head right round, right round When you go down, when you go down down😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@Aaron-eb3qq]

Yeah that Instructor sucks. A real instructor would of took control of there student as soon as they started spinning uncontrollably until they were completely stable

[@SwipeLess]

30min in tunnel and this would've never happened! Also what a bad instructor

[@TomP-nw4wu]

If you can start a turn you can stop a spin.

[@HACKTACULAR.]

They were spinning so fast they started taking off like a helicopter 🚁

[@westfinger8630]

That was brutal.

[@jamesbond7425]

Students should be taught to get into the "Delta position" . . This will stop the spin immediately

[@sanfranciscobay]

Lyrics to the Song by Don McLean called Dreidel. I feel like a spinning top or a dreidel The spinning don't stop when you leave the cradle You just slow down Round and around the world you go Spinning through the lives of the people you know We all slow down How you gonna keep on turnin' from day to day? How you gonna keep from turnin' your life away? No days you can borrow, no time you can buy No trust in tomorrow, it's a lie I feel like a spinning top or a dreidel The spinning don't stop when you leave the cradle You just slow down Round and around the world you go Spinning through the lives of the people you know We all slow down How you gonna keep on turnin' from day to day? How you gonna keep from turnin' your life away? And I feel like I'm dippin' and divin' My sky shoes are spiked with lead heels I'm lost in this star car I'm drivin' But my air sole keeps pushin' big wheels My world is a constant confusion My mind is prepared to attack My past, a persuasive illusion I'm watchin' the future it's black What do you know? You know just what you perceive What can you show? Nothing of what you believe And as you grow, each thread of life that you leave Will spin around your deeds and dictate your needs As you sell your soul and you sow your seeds And you wound yourself and your loved one bleeds And your habits grow, and your conscience feeds On all that you thought you should be I never thought this could happen to me I feel like a spinning top or a dreidel The spinnin' don't stop when you leave the cradle You just slow down Round and around this world you go Spinnin' through the lives of the people you know We all slow down How you gonna keep on turning from day to day? How you gonna keep from turning your life away? I feel like a spinning top or a dreidel The spinning don't stop when you leave the cradle You just slow down

[@bibsythecottonelf7147]

At that point why signal? 😂

[@tinkertailor7385]

Anyway, she pulled. Good girl. If skydiving is anything like proper diving, once you go underwater, no matter how many people are around you, there is only one person who can get you into trouble and only one person who can get you out. You.

[@peibolgam]

Interstellar docking scene!!!!😂

[@Drblue2222]

name this drop zone!!!!

[@uakvvas400]

that was so cartoonish😁

[@GustavoAcostaArmerol27l]

Instructor said " i hope he made it"

[@gforce415]

Wow poor student that's sad she doesn't want to jump anymoor

[@Drifterteetea]

I think the student gave up skydiving at 1.35 tbh the instructor let them go for some extra spinning. "Talk to me Goose"

[@gouda2872]

"Lastly, if you know your student is of a body size you cannot fly with, you should have good enough judgment to have someone else take them up." Excellent point to highlight. Fall rate is important. Dress appropriately. If this instructor wore a baggy jumpsuit, probably would have not sunk out.

[@ahgflyguy]

hmmmmmm. maybe take a page out of the SCUBA diving handbook, and strap some lead weights to the student? It's just a thought (a bad thought).

[@alexkolesen3765]

@@ahgflyguy that's what they actually do. My instructor was quite a bit heavier than me so I had to jump with a weight vest during my AFF.

[@ahgflyguy]

@@alexkolesen3765 that’s pretty comical. How much weight did you have to add?

[@alexkolesen3765]

@@ahgflyguy not much, just about 10 pounds.

[@tims6744]

@@ahgflyguy i'd agree with the bad thought part, but what do i know. it's not the student that needs more weight, it's the instructor that needs to fall slower, or better yet, not let the student spin out of control. more weight on a student could lead to other problems with wingloading or something.

[@olexiydevyatka]

I hope this instructor is over with instruction.

[@jlo7770]

I wonder is could see him just sailing off into the clouds and was like "that son of a b"

[@richardcook1987]

Just woke my wife up from laughing so hard watching this in bed.

[@danielww9022]

If you are shadows like a propeller, you will spin like propeller. Slow down the video, & notice that the student was not level, body to limbs. At category C, one must know what causes the body to turn, to stop turning, & to begin turning the opposite direction. If not, it's the instructor's fault. Hopefully, the student did get some tunnel time & then get get back on the plane after dialing it all in.

[@alexanderrivette6235]

Who let the 100 jump wonder take an aff student?

[@Ph.D..]

Does that instructor honestly give a shit if his students survive?? Doesnt appear so. Scary to think instructors could be so negligent & so uncaring.

[@dj-flights7376]

Any skydivers here -- how do you get out of a spin like that? It seemed like she was staying still. Is it about stopping it early before the energy of the spin builds too much? Do you elongate the arm on the spinning side maybe? Or push a shoulder down or something?

[@blueeyedredness]

It’s all body position, legs and shoulders mostly. Uncontrollable spins during free fall only happen to inexperienced jumpers. All she had to do was relax, arch and make a good heading and it would have stopped.

[@justinian420]

Lazy instructor, but also some people shouldn't skydive, or should become tunnel flyers first. We see a total lack of athleticism/coordination on display here. Just bend your arms slightly differently and the spin stops. Fighting to maintain a heading is one thing, but spinning out of control in the same direction, making no attempt to fight it, maybe it was poor instruction...

[@JonesBeiges]

Uhm maybe the student lost consciousness? Did you see that idiot instructor check is if the student was fine before releasing ????

[@argh100100]

It has nothing to do with skills/coordination, he does not even attempt to actively correct. Don't know how it was for you on your first jumps, but most people aren't fully aware of what they are doing at that point yet. Touching heels and toes or touching finger tips may already have been enough instruction to snap out of there and feel the right body position. The wind tunnel is good to increase your skills, but also used a lot as an excuse for lack of personal attention for your students, and a lack of skills from the instructors.

[@justinian420]

I dunno man...if someone spins out of control so badly she makes FF it might just be skill/coordination@@argh100100

[@420]

I decided against solo jumping after watching the grim instructional video showing safety, different failures, and whatnot. I didn't need to experience something first hand. Tandem one last time.

[@RNAvirus]

If in Chicago land area, come to CSC. The AFF-Is there actually can do their responsibility to their students.

[@DrTrizio]

Why people start spinning like that and other never do that in aff course? I would like to start aff but this the most thing that scare me

[@Babba16]

ILL SHOW YOU A TORNADO

[@robertjanderson88]

The instructor is worse than the student. He didn't even make the smallest of attempts to assist the student. He just watched until the student pulled a good 100M away.

[@malsawmkima-qr1xk]

bro said i wanna become a helicopter

[@pcch7831]

This is what I don't like about AFF, students not having learned the basics step by step being allowed to jump from what 3000 or 4000 meters?

[@MaxMax-nb1lm]

Then you do not know how AFF works.

[@pcch7831]

@@MaxMax-nb1lm well this student clearly didnt? we did 24 jumps in my course, I don't see how you'd get the same practice from 10 aff jumps

[@КирК-п8е]

the flying anvil :))

[@msven]

I only have ~50 jumps so this is not an expert assessment but...At 0:27, after the instructor stabilized and let go, the student kept legs and arms fully out. At 0:30 you can see the instructor with both arms out. So, it's possible that there was just no way for the (likely larger) instructor to get up to the student because they were sprawled out?

[@1574me]

Yes, the instructor sunk out. The spinning both helps the student spread out and contributes to the floating, but the instructor needs to be able to catch her. As someone else pointed out, it looks like he (I assume it's a he) keeps his chin up looking at her when he initially goes low, which as I'm sure you know, is a big no-no. And ultimately, as the video description says, if the size difference is big enough that it might cause this kind of issue, then this instructor should not be on the jump, and the student should be assigned a floatier instructor.

[@msven]

@@1574me makes sense. I guess instructors I had that were larger also always wore ultra baggy clothes since I'm small and floaty :)

[@JonesBeiges]

@@1574me but why did he not communicate with the student before releasing her????

[@MaxMax-nb1lm]

@@JonesBeiges That's his biggest mistake. He should have corrected her position and taken the tension out of her body.

[@benbazy9238]

The instructor had never stabilized her.

[@edwardconway1507]

Where did this take place? AFFI doesn’t look like his has any flying skills either

[@Drifterteetea]

Send AFFI back to practice his fast and slow fall

[@highvibrationalkings7079]

They turned into a helicopter 🚁

[@HappyTree10]

Why didnt hold the student?? He could hold and stop rhe spin.

[@vlnow]

Autorotation for landing ?

[@SkyWolfSkydive]

This person has no business skydiving, AFFI is also not with it... just my opinion

[@freeMYSTANG]

Вот для этого и нужна аэротруба.

[@olexiydevyatka]

и для таких "инструкторов" тоже - провалился и не знает, как вспухнуть.

[@КирК-п8е]

инструктор: "я только посмотреть.." :)

[@chavyjumper1405]

Who is instructor🤔

[@igorcatharino1371]

It happened to me, on my 10th jump in the ASL course. Only I went to the FXC to shoot. hahahaha 🤪😵 27 years ago!!!

[@Pghlife966]

I hope thay instructor was fired

[@jackmehoff6302]

Zero line twists

[@alissonalves6191]

FICOU PARECENDO UMA BORBOLETA KKKKKK

[@benbazy9238]

Left Turn Clyde

[@PizyIq]

Nah blud turned in a helicopter

[@MrMase12]

Jeeze Luis

[@jmyggr5730]

At least blood flow to the brain??

[@jessenotdiaz2483]

She shouldve spun a little faster and generated lift 😆😆 also that TI was absolutely useless especially from half a mile away

[@OneSkiWonder]

I've only skydived twice, both tandem, but I think I'm more competent of a skydiver than that instructor is. I know I'm not skilled enough to stop a bad situation of another person, and would therefore decline to take a new skydiver up. That instructor literally left that student to fend for themselves after 1 attempt to stop the spin. If you're not a competent instructor, don't put anyone else's life into your hands. Plain and simple.

[@nabz85]

Beyblade level 10000

[@Billbeaux]

Some people should just stay on the ground

[@brettstrauss8562]

You mean like that "instructor"?

[@subtlename2873]

​@@brettstrauss8562damn, you beat me to it lol

[@adayinthelife5772]

lol