FRIEDMAN PINK TACO vs MARSHALL JCM800 2203

Can the small pitbull Friedman PINK TACO handle my exceptionally aggressive JCM800 2203 'Bad Boy' from 1984? And the JCM800 2203 Zakk Wylde signature.
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● FRIEDMAN PINK TACO vs MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY: • FRIEDMAN PINK TACO vs ...
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Timecodes:
- Intro: 0:00
- The Song: 0:25
- General info: 2:27
- Noodling with the amps: 3:35
- Conclusion: 6:17
- The signal chain: 7:30
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[@KB_Joys]

They both sound in the same ballpark, but i think what sets them apart mostly without stating the obvious is the lack of presence control and negative feedback loop. I've built both personally and i think they both sound great just as they are. Thanks for the video ☺️

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Good point 👌. Thanks!

[@MarkusJuhani]

10k! Congrats!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! 🙏

[@Greg-rd8qr]

Awesome video! Might be getting an early version of the Pt20, stoked!!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool! Thanks!

[@tatteredhope911]

Congrats on the 10K subs man!!! Awesome!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! 🙏

[@porteneur1]

Thank you Euge. Not only are you an incredible player ? but also very knowledgeable. I enjoy your series. keep up the great work. Cheers!!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Really glad to hear that! 🙏☺️

[@wfd245]

I love my pink taco I have it retubed with Eurotubes high gain kit. I love it in the high gain switch setting and gain around 7 for rhythms then boost it with a sd-1 for solos. Your videos are the best

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool! Thanks! 🙏☺️

[@slappywag7210]

That’s the way man🤘

[@madddog692000]

Congrats on 10k Euge, well deserved brother 👍 The bad boy has much better note definition. You're right, if the Pink Taco had a Presence knob it would make a huge difference. Enjoy your weekend 🤘🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks William! Indeed 👌. Likewise man!

[@runander]

Marshall sounded sooo good!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🔥💪

[@rudolfo211]

@@EugeValovirta230V Imho Marshall sounds the best of all amps!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I agree 👌💪.

[@azzazelo]

idk man Friedman amps to me sound great in a room by yourself. But in a mix the Marshall harshness is where it's at to cut through

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Exactly 👌.

[@soroushgolru3947]

Solid vid Euge, playing is stellar as usual

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@Marcelo_B_159]

Congrats on the first 10k! Yep, Marshall 👊

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks Marcelo! 🙏 Yes 💪.

[@dryocum]

Agreed!

[@tomserotoninandthedopamine4375]

Great Video. Thank you!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@alexmurphy5289]

Absolutely killer playing as always

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks!

[@michaelmitchell5909]

Thumbs up brother....always awesome to hear you play, that solo was really good man. That friedman be100 deluxe with the black face and the Marshall knobs would be cool to see you demo that head...beast of an amp

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! Yeah it would be indeed! Maybe someday 😎.

[@DelReiRock]

Wow! Man, your channel grew!! Congrats! 🎈🎉🍾🎊🎉🥳 Great job you're doing here! Thanks!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man!

[@slappywag7210]

Switching between the two is practically seamless. For people that aren’t in a position to run a JCM 800 wide open, the PT20 is an awesome choice!🤘

[@satchrules101]

Hey bro ur channel is great ! Appreciate it !

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! Really glad to hear this! 🙏

[@vintagesound8112]

The Friedman has a good tone but it sounds like it’s squashed into a box, hard to describe. The Marshall like you say is just open and full. Great video as usual. 👍🏻

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed. Thanks!

[@btu45nh]

Congrats on 10k subs Euge,you deserve it for sure. Taco sounds pretty similar to the 800,Maine more to the 800s little brother. The big 800 still rivals them all. Keep up the professional content,I enjoy all of your vids. 10k is just a start,enjoy your weekend.🎸👍💥

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks Brian! I agree 💪😎. Likewise!

[@btu45nh]

I keep going back to the vid you did on John Sykes Dawning of a brand new day crushing riffs and chops galore,I must say better than the original.. Yessa!🎶💥

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! 🙏☺️

[@chuckmannewrock4743]

As always Euge great vid and tasty playing.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man!

[@jamescarpenter4777]

800 kills it! That pink taco just Valovirted! It sounds like a muffled Marshall. Nice video Euge.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😁👌. Thanks James!

[@wspeed657]

Thick and heavy. Sounds awesome! The 800 sounds a little more open to me and a smidge brighter. It's so close though. I can't believe he called his amp the pink taco lol

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah! 😁👍

[@ctpmark]

Well done on the great videos and your playing on the in the style of john 5.. holy shit!! 10k ... keep up the excellent work and your chops and tone... A+

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! 🙏☺️

[@christopher.k.guitar]

If you get the chance - check out the new Friedman Pink Taco V2… Instant stank face pinky promise. Compared to the old Pink Taco it is brighter and more aggressive 💪 Highest gain mode Master 4, Gain 6, EQ to taste - Van Halen Harmonic dripping nirvana 🙌

[@zakkcovers18]

I like the jcm sound🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Me too 😎💪.

[@baam5150]

Great video. I completely agree Re: the PT20’s EQ. The lack of a presence control well…leaves the tone lacking a bit! But I can see how many people also like that aspect of the PT20’s tone. It’s a more polite version of a Marshall-style amp. However, I miss the extra bite of being able to fine tune the treble/presence. In order to combat this lack of a presence control with my PT20, I find a clean boost with an EQ tilted a bit towards the treble side helps quite a bit.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! 👌😎

[@bigchocolate8547]

Baam5150 exactly I purchased one and it is lacking that presence control to my taste. Dave Friedman has my PT-20 and is adding a presence control knob or so to my amp. Can't wait to receive it and hopefully it'll make a difference in the tone.

[@baam5150]

@@bigchocolate8547 let me know when you post a video of your PT20 with the presence control. Curious what you think of it one you get it back from Dave.

[@bigchocolate8547]

@@baam5150 will do my man 👍🏿

[@TechMetalRules]

I love your videos and I'd love to see you do a comparison between the SC20H (mini JCM800) and the Friedman PT-20 (Pink Taco)!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! I don’t own those but if I happen to be able to borrow them at the same time then for sure.

[@SixStringViolence]

Marshall is the King of Tone!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪🔥

[@jerryfreese7572]

Lot of people vote Marshall I see. I have had quite a few and have a few Early JCM800s and I can tell you they don't have near the gain a PT will have. Here a Solid state distortion pedal is used in front of a tube amp. A stock 800 will never have the gain of a PT without a pedal.

[@valle4483]

Friedman Pink Taco/Dirty Shirley vs Marshall Studio Classic would be very interesting 🤔 Great video btw!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed but I’ve already returned the small Marshalls to the MusiX and will do so with the Friedmans in a few days 😎.

[@barriem5318]

Killer playing!! I think I prefer the JCM800 ever so slightly. Has a little extra high frequency sizzle.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Me too 😎👌.

[@chuckmannewrock4743]

Especially if you use the matching Friedman 1x12 it gets very bassie. At higher volume it opens up some but not as much as a 800.

[@bigchocolate8547]

Wow not bad for 20 watt amp it sounds great 👍

[@EugeValovirta230V]

🤟👌

[@juanacuna9405]

They sound SO different. The Marshall is on another league.

[@LateNightYinzer]

I've got an early PT, before they added the gain switch. The only way I can describe it is as a dirt box. An exceptional one, but it only does dark, brown dirt. But, once you help it out a little with a boost and gate AND then throw an EQ in the loop to add back all the high end cut, it's pretty phenomenal and something you could easily travel with. So long as you don't miss having anything reminiscent of a clean channel. The whole amp is just a dirty channel lol.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😎👌

[@rambusinek]

Any chance you could demo the new Pink Taco V2? It´s supposed to be more bright than the first version.

[@rickbartocetti847]

Compare your marshall to the Friedman ss100.. that would be very interesting. Love the videos my friend, keep it up

[@EugeValovirta230V]

If I get my hands on one then for sure! 👌😎 Thanks Rick!

[@dryocum]

The Friedman JJ JR is like the PT. But, with the presents in higher gain that you’re looking for. The JJ 100 can do anything that Marshall 800 can do and more. It’s a Multi trick pony.. I have both...

[@EugeValovirta230V]

The JJ is a great amp indeed 👌. Have used it a few times 🎼🎸.

[@markn4526]

The PT is great for a low wattage amp, but I think that the SC20H would beat it. Your 2203 absolutely kills it though. Congrats on reaching 10k!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

At least on that classic 800 crunch 😎. Yeah The Bad Boy is quite exceptional 💪. Thanks Mark!

[@powdermnky007]

We need to let Friedman clone your bad boy amp

[@starblaster77]

you need to do a Friedaman Jake e lee with that Marshall and the pink taco 2.

[@andrewhouse3246]

The taco is a little beast! When u get the other marshall back from maintenance please do a wideo🤘your the best !!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

It is! I will 👌. Thanks Andrew! 🙏☺️

[@christianutter5383]

Thx for this! Pt was a bit lacking in highs. Is this something you would have taken care of with a Presence tweak if it had one? Not enough juice on Treble pot?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

You're welcome man! Yes indeed since with the presence you're able to dial the overall "high shelf" of the amp 'cos the treble is just a volume control for a pre set high frequency curve that the amp designer has designed :-).

[@nuitari666uzgurzmor6]

Hello Euge! If you‘re gonna check out more small amps, I recommend you to check out the Mezzabarba Skill 30 head. It sits between a Marshall and a Soldano. Bought the combo version 2 months ago and i‘m very happy with it! Not as dirty sounding as a Marshall, but huuuge sound! Also sounds very good at low volume. You don‘t need an attenuator for the Skill 👍🏻

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Cool! Hopefully I’ll get my hands on one some day! 👌

[@triclops8]

Thanks for this valovirtuously great comparison! Of course, the Bad Boy stays unbeaten :)

[@EugeValovirta230V]

You’re welcome and thanks! Indeed 💪😎.

[@vokodlok0]

Great content !!!! Can you by any chance compare it with the runt 20 or jj junior? Curious about the amps xlr out performance when recording.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! Hopefully some day! 👌

[@PEMAMETAL]

Hey man. I am reading about those KHE amp switchers. I have 4 amps and 2 cabinets, it seems it would be very useful to me. Do they come with a foot switch? I see you stepping ti change amps, but in their website they don't say anything

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I have a G-Lab switcher 👌.

[@seventhsealhere]

The 800 is the king. Still not dethroned. Thanks for the comparison! 👍

[@EugeValovirta230V]

It is 💪. Thanks!

[@hankyulkim925]

The sound of the Pink Taco feels much darker compared to the JCM. Is the amp itself on the darker side? The JCM sounds very sharp and clear, right?

[@80srocklegend85]

You should try to get your hands on one of those ceriatone amps, the yeti and chupacabra sound really good. I bet you would like them

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah I’ve heard that they’re pretty damn good 👌. Hopefully some day! 😎

[@benlubin8562]

Close, but the 800 sounds more aggressive and bitey. But obviously it will...

[@LP3T3]

I hear a bit more compression on the PT's tone, is that accurate? Or is that just the wattage difference? BTW, thank you for trying to do the comparison despite not having the SC20, truly appreciate it!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah there’s this natural power tube sag/compression since I needed to really crank the master on the PT so that it’d be as close as possible to the 800 without the power tubes going extra saturated 😎. Thanks Pete!

[@Leiska]

You might want to check out ml-soundlabs amped amp sims. Plexi and jcm800 in particular. Imo sounds awesome.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah I’ve heard that they’re pretty good so maybe I’ll try them and do a video some day ’cos I don’t really need more plugins for the obvious reasons 😁.

[@CrazyHenkie777]

No presence on the Friedman was the first obvious thing that I missed on this track. What a weird design choice! I'm also wondering " will there ever be a video where the JCM 800 doesn't win?" To be honest I don't think so. Maybe when you start playing other types of music but for this kind of agressive metal it is and has always been the favorite weapon of choice in my book. Congrats on the 10k subs!!!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I agree 👌😎. Thanks Bart!

[@taxo]

It's not just a presence thing, all Friedman amps are designed to sound polite, smooth, very record-like, and they deliver in a small room. Problem is when you compare them with a very abrasive, raw, no-smoothness, no frills, uncompressed amp, or throw them in a band mix.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

👌

[@FlankinspanK]

maybe more treble with the pt and they would be closer

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Could be but different amps so it’d probably takes more than just dialing a treble knob 😎. Can’t remember anymore since it’s been a while since I filmed the video 🤟.

[@rangerdoc1029]

I love Dave Friedman, but the JCM crushed the PT20. Now a JCM vs a BE100 would be a fair fight.

[@alexbotic]

Damn! That old Marshall 🤘🤤😎

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed! 😎💪

[@alexbotic]

@@EugeValovirta230V just brutal 👊👊👊

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah! 👊

[@thomasjohnson7712]

My Friedman Wildwood Pink Taco sounds nothing like the Pink Taco in this video. Mine gets just almost as loud as my 50 watt JCM800 2204, and sounds phenomenal. I dont really need any distortion pedal unless it's a Fuzz, otherwise my EP Booster sends it over the top. The trick is taking a lot of time setting the amp as it is very sensitive, took me a couple of weeks of constant knob turning, but it was well worth it, my Pink Taco sounds more Marshally than my actual Marshall. You know how Mountain's "Mississippi Queen" sounds in the intro with the bass and guitar? Well I have both sounds out of my Pink Taco. It's a beast, even just being a 20 watter.

[@royjff]

Man I need a Pink Taco amp 🔥

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😎👌🔥

[@majorlee1]

The bad boy Marshall wins in my opinion. Great vid! 😎

[@EugeValovirta230V]

The Bad Boy is an exceptional amp indeed 💪😎.

[@FlankinspanK]

i have both and gigging with the pt definitely satisfying. jcm800 probably better still

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Both are great amps indeed 👌.

[@tatteredhope911]

Dude!!! Yeah you were right man, it just isn't a fair comparison. The PT sounds good but it sounds dull almost. The Marshall sounds "Alive". Not to knock the PT, cuz it sounds good.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I told ya 😁.

[@patricklongshanks378]

Marshall all day! I owned a pink taco for a while and didn’t like that it was so tight. It doesn’t howl like my 800.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed! Oh I felt that it wasn’t nearly as tight as my 800s. But that’s probably ’cos I had the master pretty much cranked to get it even close to the 800s level 😎.

[@xyema-mpa-ma-ma]

JCM800, hands down!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪

[@billytremoloband7456]

The Marshall wins for me ! I’m a big fan of bright cutting sound as it’s always way better in a live situation but not the greatest for your hearing .....! Thank god for inear monitoring.....!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed 👌😎

[@glorideefaithperez2858]

There is no beating that '84 JCM800 for Heavy Rock tones! That top end will cut thru anything.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah! 👊👌

[@Moirchester]

Pepita was waiting for his daily dancing moment :)

[@EugeValovirta230V]

He was indeed 😎.

[@TheFilleneuve]

Marshall 🙏

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪😎

[@DelReiRock]

I love Friedman, but in this comparison the 800 was MUCH better!! 100W is always 100W... LOL

[@EugeValovirta230V]

100 watt 800 is always a 100 watt 800 indeed 💪😎.

[@nikolihotzki3272]

please try an engl savage 120 its a metal machine beast. i own an peavey 6505 made in usa and an engl fireball the savage smokes all of those amps.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Hopefully in the future indeed 💪😎.

[@janneheikkinen1409]

Kiitos videosta, löytyy itseltä Friedman Pink Taco ja miettinyt Gibson Les Pauliin mikkien vaihtoa. Burstbuckerista Emg:hen, tämä sai vakuuttuneeksi et kyl kannattaa, vielä kahlata läpi kaikenmaailman dimarziot ja emg:t läpi, huh heijakkaa. Onko kokemusta Emg 57/66 mikeistä? Jos löytyy niin mitä mietteitä verrattuna Emg 81/85?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Mulla on molempia settejä useissa keihäissä ja 57/66 on periaatteessa 81/85 ja PAF mikkien yhdistelmä eli niissä snadisti enemmän alamiddleä ja yläkarvaa 😎

[@janneheikkinen1409]

@@EugeValovirta230V Kiitti vastauksesta! :)

[@billytremoloband7456]

Out a matter of interest (you may have covered this topic on another video before) do you run whatever amp your recording through a speaker cab so you get the guitar/amp interaction while playing or is it just straight into the computer and back through monitors of some sort ?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

It’s the Suhr Reactive Load. Maybe you haven’t watched the video to the end ’cos I show the signal chain (like on pretty much on all my videos). NOTE: never run a tube amp without a load (cabinet / load box) ’cos it will most likely blow up 😎. But here’s a dedicated video of my setup if you’re interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWOxXnp7n999jM0

[@billytremoloband7456]

Euge Valovirta Thanks a mill il go check that out.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

👌💪😎

[@billytremoloband7456]

Euge Valovirta I had a look at that video, very informative in deed! Looks like a great setup for recording!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! It is 👌.

[@pepem.5927]

Euge! As always great :D I don't know if you like Soldano, but if you have the chance to try the new plugin of NeuralDSP Soldano SLO-100 I would like to listen your honest opinion but I have the feeling if you play it you will love it.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks man! Yeah I like Soldano. I mean who doesn’t 😎. I think I need to do some overall / general video about Neural’s plugins ’cos I’ve got quite a few requests to check them out. On my to do - list 👌.

[@dreamawayyourpain]

What cab would you use with a Marshall JCM800?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I really like my Fryette Fat Bottom with Eminence P50E speakers but one can’t really go wrong with any good cab (Marshall, Mesa, ENGL etc.) loaded with Celestion V30s or 25 watt Greenbacks. The Eminence speakers I have are kinda like a mix of those two Celestions. Many Marshall cabs have the 75watt Celestions as a stock speakers but I’ve never cared for those that much.

[@Gohanndes1]

The JCM800 is still the king! It is so massive!!! 💪🏻

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah! 💪

[@ConradMH]

Interesting bro!!!!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear C!

[@ConradMH]

You are wellcome E!!!! 😉

[@dantuts09]

Jcm800 sounded big and awesomr. But pink taco is so different with jcm800. The eq section alone with pink taco is basic. With JCM800 , you have a presence knob...maybe a Friedman Be100 would be a match, you think ?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

BE100 is kinda like a modded Plexi with a bit more modern twist IMO. Great amp but not 800 😎👌.

[@aquilarossa5191]

About to watch. Prediction? Nordic 2203 kicks it's arse. Edit: Kicked arse? No, but the 2203 cut thru more with more clarity. I do not know how to describe tone. It was just more good. I expected it to be even more more good though There is a combo version of a JCM800 2210 on our local listings. Serviced and ready to go. About 1000 euros in NZ money. I am tempted, but hopefully it does not sell while I try to raise the couple of hundy I'm short. I wonder what they are like and if they can do the SD1 thing right. I read they are between a 2203 and a Silver Jubilee, but that was just some random yank in a forum saying it. My fav boosted 2203 tone is Vivian Campbell with Dio. It snarls (I am confused whether he used a DS1 or a SD1 though. In a recent video I think he said DS1, but I read back then it was SD1. I dunno. Try both I guess. X2N or Super Distortion bridge pup I think). There is also a JMP 2204, but I'd have to sell some pedals to get that one. I found a pic of Randy's 10 band EQ supposedly with his settings. Boosting 200-500Hz, i.e., lower mids and a bit of cut higher up and lower down. I tried similar and it kind of works. I am useless at EQ pedals, so it was a handy find. There is something going on with Randy's pick attack that is tricky to get. Kind of a chewy, thick, almost rubbery sound, but with lots of bite still. Another EQ setting I want to work out is Dave Murray. He gets that smooth sound with his hammer on, pull offs.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I’ve done a few studio sessions with the combo 800 and it sounded like 800. And I boosted it with SD-1 😎👌.

[@teddyvanhalen814]

Still like the Marshall better. 👍

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪👌

[@orcunozcan]

Just can say its Marshall😀🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😎💪

[@rocker8692]

Wow Pink Taco has better harmonics to me.

[@astro2069]

The Marshall is still king 😎🤙🤘 but the pink taco did hold its own pretty decent, especially considering the wattage difference etc.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed! 😎👌

[@Moirchester]

But he really was listening to your comments on the amps :)

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Hopefully since he is also my apprentice 😁.

[@samunden]

I was on the fence with the PT20 and the SC20H. Ending up going with the Marshall based on your videos and have been very happy with it so far.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Glad to hear that Scott! 🙏💪

[@samunden]

@@cragginshred what would you consider a good tone? To my ears, this is pretty close to my old JCM800 and the sound that has been on countless favorite albums

[@cragginshred]

@@samunden The tone in the video is fantastic, my comment was about the Marshall 20w SC20H which would be a better comparison to the PT because it's a 20w head. By the way with an OD into the front of the PT you can get it to sound much better -like this.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6HThn6qnNyNZrc Lastly, keep in mind the tones on countless albums is post production and post mastering. None of those amps sounded that killer straight out of the cab, unlike a Friedman!

[@rayprevailer8454]

800 cut through better. Taco sounded like the 800 with a moving blanket over the speaker cabinet. Great comparison.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪👌. Thanks!

[@saffel]

Taco needs a presence knob

[@svenjeschke5025]

I prefer the brighter, clearer voicing of the Marshall. In direct comparison the Friedman sounds dull and dark.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪👌

[@augustogasparfosado9955]

Marshall for the win!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪😎

[@johnmarshall3903]

Not even close Euge, Marshall chomped the taco. How do you feel the 20w 800 would do against it? Too bad you couldn't compare the two at the same time. Congrats on your 10k!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I have to agree. Probably a bit better but like I said you can’t really compare a 20 watt amp to a 100 watt beast 😎.

[@nathanielpersohn600]

Dude...you should do a series to unseat the "J C M 2 2 0 3, greatest amp ever!" Probably can't be unseated, but the journey would be Huuu-euge!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah it’d be a journey although I’m pretty sure how it would end 😎💪.

[@taxo]

The Marshall sounds like a raw, barking, full and articulate rock machine. The other one more of a nice toy.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😁👍

[@reneotten7376]

I have and love the PT but the 800 sounds bigger, yes. But my two 800s are not as aggressive as yours.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yes😎. My 2203x is pretty much the same. Amps just amplify the sound they got from a player and I play pretty aggressively 💪😎.

[@reneotten7376]

@@EugeValovirta230V do you break strings often?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Nope.

[@AJC-jo3ds]

I think better comparison is Friedman PT 20 vs Marshall SC20 studio

[@EugeValovirta230V]

👌

[@reneotten7376]

Nothing beats good old Marshall. I tried so many brands, wasted so much money, for me it's now Marshall forever.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

I agree 💪👌.

[@MoreMeRecording]

Is there a comparison? ;) Not taking anything away from the Friedman but this is one of those examples where you effortlessly can tell what you're listening to blind.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😁👍

[@paulmales1889]

Try a Friedman runt ( preferably 50 watt ) it’s way closer to you’re Marshall .

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah I’ve played with one a few times and it’s a bit closer but quite far away still 😎.

[@erniebender7886]

Friedman JEL vs JCM 800 🤟 would be a killer show down

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Indeed! Hopefully some day 💪😎.

[@erniebender7886]

Hey brotha any plans for the future of any US shows?

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Yeah! Without the Covid we’d been there already with Cyhra touring for ’No Halos In Hell’. Let’s see what & when will happen when this thing is over 👌😎.

[@erniebender7886]

@@EugeValovirta230V that’s awesome man good to hear... you have a great singer brotha. Can’t wait to catch a show... rock on 🤘

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Thanks! He is really good indeed 👌.

[@joshmuz9018]

If it's the amps running into reactive load and into ir, isn't it just the same as using an amp Sim like mecurial spark. Why do you need amps if they are just running into computer direct anyways. Just wondering

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Good question indeed. Here’s a few points: A real amp is quite different than a digital emulation of an amp 😎. A good reactive load = the amp behaves like it would be connected to a good cabinet like my Fryette Fat Bottom 4x12. A good IR = a good cabinet mic’d with a good microphone / microphones like my Audix i5 & Shure SM57. Conclusion: I can crank the amps and get a great sound without being extremely loud and can record & play with just headphones if I will 😎👌. You know the way you do in a big old school recording studio with a separate isolation room / booth for cabinets. And well...I’ve actually used a reactive load & IRs in a studio like that ’cos it’s so much faster and easier to try different amps & cabs without having to spent hours of finding the perfect positions for microphones, and it sounds basically the same and most of the time even better 👌😎. And you hardly record to a tape anymore anywhere but to a computer / DAW like Cubase, ProTools, Logic etc.

[@joshmuz9018]

@@EugeValovirta230V thanks for the reply. So in your opinion the real amp into the reactive load provides superior tone and dynamics than the amp Sim into an ir? Great playing btw

[@EugeValovirta230V]

Definitely 👌. I mean plugins are really good nowadays but I think it’s pretty impossible to ever get them to sound and especially to get the vibe & feel what you get with a real tube amp. I mean plugins are just 1s & 0s and real tube amp is...well a real tube amp. Kinda like driving with a real muscle car vs driving with a car simulator. Can’t really talk them in the same sentense.

[@Walkerbjj]

I expected it to be a little closer...the 2203 is WAY better in this video

[@EugeValovirta230V]

💪😎

[@cardbored_]

The 2203 is also twice the price of the PT... Maybe comparing the 2203 to a SmallBox would have been a better comparison. And there, I'd take the SB any day.

[@EugeValovirta230V]

😎👌 Done it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnfZiKF6j5uFhMk

[@cardbored_]

@@EugeValovirta230V Nice! I love my SB, I also have a Dirty Shirley 40, great amps!

[@EugeValovirta230V]

They are indeed!

[@ralucamirelapasareanu8521]

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