Everything Wrong With Exodus 14 in the Bible

[@Dangerman1973]

When Hitler goes genocide, "He's a monster!", but when god does it, "GOD IS GOOD!" (facepalm)

[@onedaya_martian1238]

The christian response ? Humans just don't understand god's justice !! Now go to church and stop thinking, ya hear !!

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Ronald Martinez Who is this ‘god’ and what does he have to do with “GOD IS GOOD!”?

[@visaman]

If you are His chosen people then it's a good thing.

[@alanthompson8515]

@@Daniel-cz7kd Good question, Daniel! I think the connection is to with the evolution of human belief systems. What do you think?

[@vadinhopsc]

@@visaman Now, that's what is called arrogance. The only people of the world that is "chosen". The writers were psychopaths who wanted to make Israel great. I hope Hemant someday takes the Talmud. I bet there's a lot to talk about too.

[@markchip1]

I'm amazed that Pharaoh hadn't died of atherosclerosis by this point! God must have made his heart into solid stone!!

[@thembill8246]

Well don't forget that Pharaoh was a god, too...

[@doubtingflock1073]

Yeah basically been puppeting pharaoh the entire time. He's "saving" them from himself. No wonder they kept worshiping false idols after this.

[@harrisonanyasi3212]

Or maybe turned it to steel

[@GeneralArmorus]

maybe in between all the hardenings Pharaoh checks out some cat videos and his heart melts a little

[@Maurus200]

"And the Egyptians will know I am the Lord." And yet we find no discoveries of them admitting or even referencing such a god. Weird.

[@AccidentalNinja]

Wait, didn't god promise not to kill people with floods? Or does it not count if it's not the entire world?

[@lucofparis4819]

I guess the reasoning here is: these aren't people, these are Egyptians. You know, because Israelites were basically full blown xenophobes. Also, you know how fictional universes work: the next authors happily retcon what the previous authors established when they think it will make things more interesting.

[@joshuashakir2772]

He promised not to do something as BAD as the flood. Which literally killed everyone but one family and the animals

[@doubtingflock1073]

So if all Pharoah's decisions are made after his heart is hardened doesn't that make him a puppet being controlled by the real bad guy? And is then "saving" them from itself I guess? What a hero....(slow clap)....

[@bladerunner3314]

But never forget, gawd can't make a shwing because free will.

[@Nexils]

Pretty much. The pharaoh is just another sock puppet of God himself.

[@GeneralArmorus]

this comment may break some brains, and hearts

[@wayfa13]

@@GeneralArmorus doubt it; it'll just be added the ever growing cognitive dissonance pile

[@thembill8246]

According to Google maps it should take about 3 weeks to walk from Egypt to Israel by foot, if they had followed the sea. With as many people and animals and whatnot walking out as their were supposedly going at the time, there would have still been people leaving by the time that the first ones arrived. There's no reason for them to have wondered 40 years. They literally just had to follow the sea. Also, there's that whole thing where none of this happened.

[@devinsmith4790]

The reason for the 40 years is due to an incident in Numbers relating to the report of the spies, resulting in God commanding that the current generation was not permitted to take the land.

[@thembill8246]

@@devinsmith4790 it's also due to a bunch of bullshit that never happened and so none of it fucking matters so who cares? LOL

[@devinsmith4790]

@@thembill8246 I mean you were wondering why it took so long for the Israelites to wander from Egypt to Canaan and I told you why. Numbers 13-14 explains why, it's not because the people were walking in circles, it's because they had cold feet upon hearing the report some of the spies brought back.

[@thembill8246]

@@devinsmith4790 yeah.. I just think it's important that everybody remember that it didn't happen, and again they could have just followed the sea. For it to take 40 goddamn years, they clearly didn't do anything resembling that. It's like they wandered south or something

[@devinsmith4790]

@@thembill8246 I didn't say it did happen, nor do I think it did. And the reason they didn't follow the sea (by which I'm assuming you mean the Mediterranean) is because God didn't want them for fear that if they saw armies like the Philistines and would want to go back to Egypt (Exodus 13:17-18), plus God wanted Moses to lead the people to the Mountain on Sinai as a pitstop (Exodus 3:12) which requires them to cross them the Sea of Reeds (exact location not certain).

[@unclescar5616]

The biggest miracle is that I believed this for 25 years

[@tqnohe]

Sixty five years for me.

[@mohamedkalo785]

46 me

[@a_net5610]

43, smh

[@unclescar5616]

Wow. So long. And to think that sometimes I beat myself up for holding on so long

[@KA-pq3yz]

😹🤣. Now you are free. Welcome to the beautiful world

[@realandar]

From a young age, (a catholic) I thought this book was all made up. Now, every week I think it's more ridiculous than I did the previous. Love this series.

[@keithherring7677]

Faith comes by hearing.

[@c.a.t.732]

"And God hardened Pharaoh's heart" yet again, and again, and... Now he's doing it to all the members of Pharaoh's army as well. Yet Christians are always saying that God gave us free-will, ergo any wrong we do is our own fault.

[@visaman]

As far as we know it's freewill, until God tells us otherwise.

[@DrBear-rk4qb]

"I guess fiction doesn't care about your feelings either." 🤣👍 Love your videos, Hemant!

[@yadabub]

The overarching theme of the Bible: God creates problems, comes up with complicated solutions to the problems he caused, then expects praise for fixing the problems.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

You nailed it. That would make a perfect Sunday Sermon.

[@uteriel282]

hes not realy fixing any of the problems he caused either. he just buries them... under water... and lots of it.

[@garryferrington811]

Yep, that's about it.

[@aprillovelace6576]

I love this series ... thank you so much ... best Sunday School EVERY 👏

[@typograf62]

I like the idea of the Egyption army moving forth on chariots pulled by zombie horses. A scary sight to behold.

[@sdscipio]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sdscipio]

Like the Zombies that walked the city when Jesus died, and never went back in their Graves, I swear my neighbor is one 🤣🤣

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Has anyone found Pharaoh's Army at the bottom of the Red Sea? It could help with the credibility.

[@sdscipio]

@@JamesRichardWiley better chance at finding Asgard and the Bi-Frost

[@shakyajitmaulik5579]

@@sdscipio Jesus also rose from grave as per Bible....so isn't he one of the undead too ?

[@fenman1954]

Strange none of this is recorded in Egyptian history

[@visaman]

God erased it from their collective memories.

[@mwperk02]

Let's be honest who the duck would still be alive after those plagues? Being dehydrated starved diseased covered in nasty biting insects and a swarm of locusts which honestly probably would of tried eating people as those things are voracious and will even cannibalize each other. Apparently they will keep eating even when being eaten by another locust such is the impulse to consume. Then god murders the firstborn of anyone still alive and then drowns what's left of their army. Hell the Israelites who were spared the effects of the plagues could easily of just killed everyone who was left and stormed the palace with minimal resistance given everyone was horribly ill and starving.

[@justanotherjezebeI]

Lol, I totally wanna hear more about this "heist" you were involved with.

[@FriendlyAtheist1]

I can tell you, but then I'd have to harden your heart.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@FriendlyAtheist1 😂

[@PraiseTheFSMonster]

@@FriendlyAtheist1 Hermant, pleeeeease include some clips from The Prince of Egypt. Maybe throw in a song, that would be awesome 😁

[@NivekTheEnigma]

@@FriendlyAtheist1 God?

[@mwperk02]

That old heist? Oh it was just robbing the union depository with some dudes named Franklin, Trevor, and Michael on scene with a few others can't remember the names, and another dude Lester running comms and helping coordinate things.

[@jeffhough7460]

"And at daybreak the sea returned to its place" i don't live near an ocean but i do believe thats called a tide

[@visaman]

More of a tidal wave.

[@eldergnome6311]

Perhaps a seiche?

[@mikelastname1220]

@@eldergnome6311 - Ah, a new word for me! I just looked it up. Nice!!!

[@danteanise3013]

I just discovered your channel. I loved this video and subscribed. When someone says God gives us free will so we can make our own choices I take deep breath and say, "Tell that to the Pharoah."

[@joseph-thewatcher]

Enjoying this series. Hope for more to come.

[@sebastiansauve3752]

So Pharaoh was basically a puppet for God. Pharaoh’s responses are not even his own. “God hardened his heart”, it was God who made Pharaoh so uncaring. If God did not harden Pharaoh’s heart, would Pharaoh have let the Israelites free earlier and would all of that death have happen? 🤔

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

I wonder about that, too. I bet Pharaoh realized that a) that large portion of the population (in the area for 400 years already) was unhappy. b) They were good workers and probably made money not only for themselves but for Egypt as a whole. c) It might be wise not only to "let them go" but help them find their "promised land", get set up there (build homes, farms, cities, etc), and become trading pardners. Also there's the idea that the "promised land" was already inhabited (as in the British and Spanish finding America already inhabited...), so if the Israelis really demanded it, well, might as well help them out, preferably with little bloodshed even if god wants the sacrifices. Yes, it could have all been done a lot smarter, but smart does not equal (≠) Yahweh.

[@blackice9088]

Actually I believe at one point the Pharaoh was ready to let them go...then god hardened his heart again...

[@mwperk02]

@@blackice9088 several times actually.

[@kylesmith3945]

Christians say god gave us free will to choose our path so that when we die it's our choice were we go. But then I wonder, what about all these children and soldiers free will? Hardening hearts is the opposite of free will.

[@bellezavudd]

Well Christians also believe a book of superstitious myths is history. So take what they say and toss it in the rubbish.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Kyle Smith Whatever ‘Christian’ says god gave us free will, is sadly mistaken, there is no god who made us or even gave us free will, any god are those who tempt us and lie to us.

[@joshuashakir2772]

All those children are obviously in Heaven. For the soldiers we really don't know, just cuz they followed Pharaoah doesn't mean they were wicked people

[@bellezavudd]

@@joshuashakir2772 What in the bible says people under 18 go to heaven automatically? Because thats the children. And also for the soldiers , what does " not being wicked" mean in this sense ? Because the bible says you get in to heaven mainly by these 2 paticilar attribues : Believing in and Worshipping "the one true God". By logic of the bible those children and soldiers appear to be screwed.

[@joshuashakir2772]

@@bellezavudd I'll tell you with Biblical knowledge why those kids are in Heaven. Matthew 18:3-4 "And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." John 15:22 "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin." These children had not really been given a chance to even hear God for themselves or think about their own salvation. It's not because they're kids, but even if a man had lived without knowing of Christ or the afterlife, Jesus would not call Him guilty, because that man never rejected Him

[@DrBear-rk4qb]

Hemant, after Exodus it would be cool if you did one of the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John). Many people seem to think only the Old Testament is ridiculous and weird, but you could show how the New Testament isn't much better.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

'Chariot wheels... about to be jammed!' Raspberry jam? 'Only one God would dare give me the raspberry!'

[@kellydalstok8900]

Pineapple jam has chunks of pineapple which would work better than soft raspberries.

[@TimEssDub]

*puts down mask* "YAHWEH!"

[@brunozeigerts6379]

@@TimEssDub Gets hit by camera.

[@PBAmygdala2021]

@@brunozeigerts6379 cheque, please!

[@pfp5364]

Anytime i read exodus and I see let my people go and worship me..I see human being speaking..a powerful being who is beyond time and space will not yearn for worship.

[@Djinn_Entonic]

Insecurities issues are their bread and butter

[@harrisonanyasi3212]

Yeah, that statement alone shows inferiority of their god

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The egocentric nature of this man made god character is pretty obvious.

[@jeneb52]

Another great reading Hemant, from the fables of Moses!

[@jrzbob]

That was the funniest video yet! "And where did they get their horses? All of the livestock were killed off in the fifth plague! "

[@visaman]

The food animals died, not the horses.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@visaman "All the livestock" died 2 or 3 times though.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@visaman Also: "live·stock /ˈlīvˌstäk/ noun -farm animals regarded as an asset." That includes horses.

[@corwin32]

I can’t help but feel that the actual villain of Exodus is God. He’s like Palpatine to the pharaoh’s Annakin. “Do it. Give in to your hate”.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

How does god cure his boredom? Wait...I know.

[@brothergrief9531]

Absolutely love this series, keep it coming please.

[@onedaya_martian1238]

You know, both god and us know the story and I think most of us, if WE were omnipotent, would have done a better job that those trinity clowns in helping Moses. Even horror stories only have the innocent person trapped in the house with the monster only go into the basement once. But in this horrible story, Pharaoh goes back and back and back to the basement, lets the monster out, then chases him down the street to finally get everyone killed. Seriously ?

[@TheRonnierate]

Amazing how stupid my parents were! It makes me sad looking back at how I suffered during my Pentecostal indoctrination as a child.

[@onedaya_martian1238]

Complete deconstruction for the masses 2022 !!!

[@JamesRichardWiley]

My mother was the same way. Nothing to get through the mental prison she created for herself.

[@DruncanUK]

12 minutes and 9 seconds! You are really spoiling us this week. ;-)

[@brunozeigerts6379]

Pharaoh quiz: The Israelites are escaping though a breach held open in the Red Sea. Do you ... A: Say 'screw it, we wanted them gone anyway.' B: Say 'They're heading for Canaan.... we control Canaan anyway.' C: Debark the army onto naval vessels(assuming you have the capability to do this) and sail ahead of them. D: Charge with the entire army into the breach obviously controlled by a divine being who hates you. If you choose 'D' you fail!

[@onedaya_martian1238]

Worse...you lead a bunch of people who say you put curses on the land, through god, many, many times, you convinced to take the Egyptian's gold and jewelry before leaving, you saved their oldest kids from death by putting blood on their doors (that has GOT to smell) and once you get to the sea, they want to go back to slavery ? Moses should have left their ungrateful a$$es right there (and, spoiler, they are going to ignore god later for a calf). But no, god "helps them" again. Dumbest plot ever.

[@bladerunner3314]

Secret answer E: "What's my fucking name?" Serisously, all those begats and not one name drop for the big enslaver with the heart made of dried up silly putty?

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Bruno Zeigerts Pharaoh quiz quiz: You make a multiple choice quiz with four different answers. Do you... A. Write down four different answers, whether they’re legit or not and allow the person to answer freely. B. Write down four different answers, and add your preference of the wrong answer so the person cannot answer freely. C. Write four different answers wanting the person to answer the way you want them to answer. C. Not make the quiz in the first place for the obvious reasons.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

@@Daniel-cz7kd E present the entire thing as a joke and a poke at the entire concept.

[@alguno1010101]

too bad that God is the one grading the quiz, so he always erases your answer and marks the incorrect one just to mess with you

[@fcsuper]

"Harden the heart of..." seems to be the convoluted plot device of this story.

[@Onganana]

Christians love to say god can do whatever he wants and be called good. I just simply say: I'm just glad this corrupted, immoral monster does not exist. It is your head I'm more worried about. You should see a psychologist before you start hurting another human being.

[@TimEssDub]

"Any one who says they are king is no king." Time to apply that to gods. The Bible was never known for good editing.

[@doctabaldhead]

I am confused. Why is this supposed to be a triumphant moment exactly? Pharoh and his soldiers had given up then God decided to make them mindlessly evil again just to fuck with his own chosen people for absolutely no reason. I guess for God murder is its own reward.

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

God gets to pick through the Egyptian bodies (including the horses?) for his favorite delicacies, esp. foreskins... so it must be an all you can eat buffet for him. Blah!

[@SuperTrainguard]

Doesn't God's hardening Pharaohs heart conflict with the concept that we have freedom of choice?

[@stefanielouise9715]

If God can harden pharaoh´s heart why can´t he just soften pharaoh´s heart and let the Jews go?

[@onedaya_martian1238]

THIS is what happens when people eat from the tree of knowledge... no more paradise, because...thinking !!

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Stefanie Louise God can, as Ezekiel testifies, the problem is with pharaoh and his freewill.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@onedaya_martian1238 What tree of knowledge? And what thinking?

[@stefanielouise9715]

@@Daniel-cz7kd Surely God hardening Pharaohs heart denies his free will. Besides, SPOILER ALERT God does not exist.

[@Nexils]

@@Daniel-cz7kd The problem is with God taking away the pharaoh's free will...

[@janwoodward7360]

Ok so, six hundred chariots, two guys each chariot, officers add 2 per cohort of chariots so what 1500 guys max? And the Israelites had 600,000 men? This makes no sense.....and that’s the point. Thanks again sir!

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Where did the Pharaoh's army go?

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@harveywabbit9541 Also, who lived at Jericho, which armies attacked it, etc? Since much of that, DOES, at least, seem historical... Just for comparison.

[@aurorafrost288]

@@harveywabbit9541 You keep babbling off this bullshit, yet you provide no sources.

[@martinnyberg9295]

Why does “the lord” need a guy with a magic wand to do his magic tricks? 🤔

[@bellezavudd]

Because he's an impotent bumbler, but at least he knows Harry Potter is the right boy for the job.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Martin Nyberg Who is this “the lord”?

[@bellezavudd]

@@Daniel-cz7kd You don't know him? That's ok, he's nobody worth knowing. "The lord" is just a Incompetent Narcissistic Character with a god complex. "The lord" is out of an old fictional book of superstious&supernatural tales.

[@visaman]

God was testing Moses. "See what I can make him do."

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 Hi Harvey, problem with the timeline again, Greek cultural influence would not arrive in the middle east untill nearly 200 years after the OT had rewritten.

[@jhammer1979]

EVERYTHING wrong with the bible, I expect every Sunday a reading and ripping of the bible until we get to the Very. Last. Page.

[@KeeBaud]

Pharaoh: Assemble 600 of our best chariots that we may pursue the slaves. A few hours later... Official: We have chosen and prepared 600 of our finest chariots as you desired. Pharaoh: Excellent! We shall now pursue ... ... we need more chariots. Bring them all!

[@sheldonmurphy6031]

Good Morning Sir! Cheers with a cup of coffee!! These are awesome sir! I hope I have the opportunity to teach these lessons as you do! Lol

[@joseph-thewatcher]

Pharoah is so hard that he had to go see a Urologist.

[@onedaya_martian1238]

This went on for more than four hours, of course he went.

[@yoursotruly]

The continuity editor never worked again after this disaster, a little proofreading goes a long way! The horses are dead, have elephants pull the chariots, re-write the script and reshoot the battle scenes, the close-ups will be fine.

[@visaman]

The livestock ( food animals) are dead. The horses are fine.

[@mwperk02]

@@visaman horses fine after being hailed on, swarmed by gnats, flies, frogs, locusts, and being starved from all the food being eaten, dehydrated from water turning Ng to blood, oh and having all the firstborn animals killed along with the humans. Every living thing in Egypt is completely fucked after all that destruction. There really wouldn't have been an army after that for every soldier would be dead or in the process of expiring

[@andrewstoddard6717]

God keeps screwing with Pharoah and turning off his free will. That explains all.

[@lotanerve]

Can you have a herdened heart and still have free will?

[@JamesRichardWiley]

It depends on God's Divine Plan which allows for the illusion of free will.

[@PraiseTheFSMonster]

Nope.

[@robloxplayer0003]

Egyptians: leaving israelites alone and letting them live their lives. God: hardens peoples heart and makes them attack israelites. Also god: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@Fimbulvinter19]

It's easy to fill a book with symbolism when someone else has already done it for you. Sargon of Akkad also did the born on water/controls the water parallel, only earlier.

[@sulas228]

Santorini is one of the Cyclades islands in the Aegean Sea. It was devastated by a volcanic eruption in the 16th century BC. This would have caused a sea retraction along the coast of Egypt followed by a Tsunami, though the Red Sea would not have been affected it is still likely that this event was incorporated into the story, which was written around that time.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The waters of the Red Sea "parted" in the middle. That is not a tsunami.

[@sulas548]

@@JamesRichardWiley No, the words in the story, that has been totally discredited, state that the waters "parted" in the middle. That is a very different thing to them 'actually' doing that. My point is that genuine historic events that have been passed down by word of mouth can easily be incorporated into a fable later on. Other examples would be a localised flood being embellished and exaggerated to Noah's flood (See the epic of Gilgamesh) and a meteorite breaking up and hitting the ground, for the Sodom & Gomorrah myth, which has been confirmed happened many centuries before the Biblical account.

[@d.o.m.494]

The further into the bible we get the dumber it gets! The last book must be crazy. Oh wait!

[@MG-ot2yr]

lol Leviticus is coming up, so more burnt offerings and a lot of uncleanliness!

[@mwperk02]

@@MG-ot2yr oh let's not forget all the horrifying commandments that any modern first world culture would condemn as the most vile barbaric set of rules ever conceived challenged only by shariah law of the sister (daughter?) religion that is Islam.

[@sadderwhiskeymann]

i'm with you 100%. *but* to be fair here, if it happened the other way around i can clearly hear your voice inside my head saying: "You're GAWD!! Zap them or something, don't just drawn them boringly" :D

[@thomasgregory4871]

7:10 - Well, actually water does work like that...given a strong enough eastern wind. Unfortunately, the wind required to do what is described would probably need to be super-sonic. But, that would make it impossible for the Israelites to walk. I mean we've all seen those news reports of the on-site reporter trying to stand up in hurricane-force winds. Now imagine trying to do that with winds that are several orders of magnitude stronger.

[@petrusrossouw6018]

Or the place where they crossed is very shallow, where simple tidal flow can explain the appearance of land. It said water returned by daybreak. Think of a sludged up shallow and wide river mouth. You have water on both sides at low tide. One side sea. One side river. No strong winds required. No miracle either. Daily occurrance. No walls of water several meters high on either side. Actual location of the 2 places mentioned is contested, since there are several places. Why Egyptians then all drowned is beyond me to explain then in this case. Also if Egyptian army overtook the Isrealites then the chase is over and they are able to stop them. Note word is overtook. Not reached, not approached. Also does this army only have slow and heay hoplites? Where are the light calvary or archers? Isrealites would not have been exactly fast. You would be able to outrun them on foot. And if they were just going to caan then Egyptian king could have simply sent word for caan reserve army to go get the isrealites on other side assuming we are talking Red sea. But maybe isrealites went south to Ethiopia away for Egyptian territory snd away from predicted route to Caan.

[@universallygifted]

Hardening is heart meant that he corrupted him and made him evil

[@freedapeeple4049]

If nobody ever heard of this religion, and they made a movie based on the bible, it wouldn't make a dime. Too absurd.

[@jameshsu2558]

Poor Pharaod. God hardened his heart so many times and he could not control his behavior. It feels like God was playing both sides just for fun.

[@markchip1]

These "books" are literally all any halfway intelligent person needs to read to understand that the whole dang Bible is just a load of magical fairy stories with a very tenuous connection to some historical events. It's no more "real" than the book, The Hunt For Red Oktober, because that at least has accurate references political doctrine, military hardware and technology with a high degree of accuracy!!!

[@tonydarcy1606]

And the KGB/Party man called Putin gets murdered in the first chapter !

[@mwperk02]

I don't think exodus is even tenuously connected to reality beyond naming Egypt Egypt.

[@Ashamanic]

The interesting thing is, that even if these events had happened, Pharaoh’s response is clearly nothing like an actual human’s would have been. We see this frequently, even in the New Testament, where Christians will often claim the Disciples act like real people, but this has to be one of the most extreme instances of something that just would not have happened.

[@mwperk02]

Well yeah god needs to manipulate the heart of pharaoh to make him say no, manipulates the Egyptian people to just give the Israelites all their valuables and the entire Egyptian army (that somehow exists after having ten plagues destroy Egypt) to make them hunt the Israelites through a magically parted red sea. All this just so god could murder them all.

[@joshuaterry8382]

One of the highlights of my Sunday! Love these videos

[@TheEyez187]

He jammed the wheels of their chariots. Must have been wooden chariots, cause the iron ones stump him!!

[@aurorafrost288]

@@harveywabbit9541 Where do you keep coming up with this bullshit? It is more likely that iron in the bible simply fucking means iron.

[@mwperk02]

Perhaps he could only jam them because the main chariot body was iron but the wheels wood or brass?

[@neorich59]

All that malarkey with the parting of the waters has, in fact, happened since..or, at least, something similar. Near Rivendell, in The Lord of The Rings. It's there on the printed page, so it *must* be true! 😉

[@alanthompson8515]

Wild Heart Nah. At the Ford of Bruinen the magic increased the waterflow rather than removed it. A better example IMO is from the late, great Terry Pratchett. In his mock Egyptian discworld novel Pyramids, this happens briefly during the climax with the river Djel that runs through the kingdom. The inhabitants take advantage to wreak vengeance on the momentarily helpless crocodiles.

[@theologicalissues8271]

18 hours left...

[@laurajarrell6187]

Wow, I landed here accidentally, got excited as it said just 16 minutes. But, alas, I'd missed it. But at least I can watch it still. These are excellent. Well, Hemant makes them so!👍👌🏿😘🥰✌😷🎃

[@thelanktheist2626]

Oh no, I’d go to the doctor if Hemant makes you go diseased pumpkin.

[@laurajarrell6187]

@@thelanktheist2626 lol, the mask is to encourage and the pumpkin is a protest with the 'pumpkin posse' from a few years ago when an extremist group of churches, the New Idependant Fundamentalist Baptists , NIFB were holding a rally called Make America Straight Again, MASA , in 'honor of the Pulse Nightclub shooting, on the day of it's first anniversary. They said only 50 some people were killed, which they celebrated, and were calling for LGBTQ to be a capital offense! One of the pastors was also a deputy sherriff, though his videos calling for death to gays got him fired from law enforcement. It was 6 or 7 churches led by steven andersen. One of them ignorantly called Mr. Atheist, Jimmy Snow, a pumpkin, saying that is the biggest fruit. (It's not, but they're ignorant, as I said.) So Jimmy owned it. As this rally was to take place right near the Pulse, during Pride week, they hoped to get to shoot some protesters. The Atheist community came together to damage their abilities to raise funds and advertise. Though I'm an old, cis woman, I fully supported fighting this bigotry. Their sermons not only called for death to any GSRM (gay,sexual,romantic minorities) but one pastor yelled at his congregation, " if your son has a limp wrist, you break that wrist!" These are evil cults! 🥰✌👌🏿😷🎃

[@thelanktheist2626]

@@laurajarrell6187 I love to see supportive older folks :)

[@Wix_Mitwirth]

Here's something that's been driving me nuts. If there never was mass Hebrew slavery in Egypt, and Moses wasn't really real, and there wasn't actually an exodus, then what did happen? If the entire story is fiction, what is the point and purpose of the victory to an entire culture?

[@bellezavudd]

For cheerleading a lost & desperate homeless society.

[@colleyhillary5032]

for victory over neighbors and 'our awesome god' bragging rights.

[@PBAmygdala2021]

OP: Excellent questions. This is where knowledge begins. The first answer is "nobody knows". The information is lost to history. The second answer is "people who have studied the topic all of their lifes have some opinions." The third answer is "people who devoutly believe it to be true have some justifications."

[@pretty_blossom5940]

About the "God hardening Pharaoh heart" it basically means he allowed Pharaoh to be filled with hate. He didn't actually harden his heart he just allowed it. Which I don't get because God has changed so many people in the bible yet couldn't change him.

[@peejay4606]

peejay is waiting with patience😃👍

[@OverprotectedAtheist]

If god had the power to harden Pharaoh's heart then he has the power to just get rid of Pharaoh. How can people not see that the god of the Bible is a trickster. He wants horrible things happen to people who do not follow him. He is sadistic. If this story does not give you pause about your god I do not know what will.

[@terryriley8963]

So what was pulling these 600 best chariots and all the other chariots of Egypt? I thought all the animals had been killed several times over with the devastating plagues, never mind the lack of water and food that was also destroyed several time over with the plagues.

[@sdscipio]

Exactly These horses apparently don't need for, survived hail, boils, etc

[@devinsmith4790]

Probably cause these stories weren't originally a whole narrative.

[@elliegotfredson3712]

Pulled by jackals. Scary god always had a soft spot for jackals and locusts.

[@colleyhillary5032]

Zombie oxen

[@PBAmygdala2021]

Enough of this thinking! Go back to obeying! Something something about free will.

[@BenYork-UBY]

I find it interesting how the Bible flips between describing God as something physical and tangible, and something spiritual and invisible. I.e: one moment Moses has to assure the isrealites to have faith in the lord as if he isn't there for the irealites to see for themselves. And moses has to speak and perform on God's behalf. The next minute god is this magician standing before everyone, doing the magic himself and even the Egyptians can see him and tell who it is. as if in physical form. The Bible swaps between these two depictions wildy and inconsistently

[@BenYork-UBY]

@@harveywabbit9541 that's interesting. What is that based on?

[@BenYork-UBY]

@@harveywabbit9541 thanks

[@J.L.Media.]

Hang on...God said at the start of the chapter that he had a plan that was going to show the Egyptians that he was the Lord, but the Egyptians were all KILLED by him during the plan. What’s the point of that then?

[@onedaya_martian1238]

@@harveywabbit9541 Excellent reply !!

[@colleyhillary5032]

@@harveywabbit9541 wow

[@J.L.Media.]

@@harveywabbit9541 Yeah and David Beckham’s famous free kick against Greece, what number was he wearing? Seven!

[@jeanettecook1088]

There is a great essay called, The Mistakes of Moses, and it's pages long. Well worth reading... Another work of interest is the research of a scholar of religion... Did Moses Exist? by Acharya S.

[@sdscipio]

The famous Sea of reeds that is about 1 ft deep and totally dry most of the time

[@natanaeldamian2192]

No way really? For some reason I always thought the red sea was deep as hell.

[@onedaya_martian1238]

@@natanaeldamian2192 The Red Sea itself is deep, I've SCUBA dived there, but where fake Moses with his fake crowd would have made the supposed crossing, if it happened, would be much further north and with a good wind, would have easily been walked across. Try Google maps for a virtual tour...fun for the whole family.

[@bladerunner3314]

Just remember Little John's drowning scene in Men in Tights.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

That would have spoiled it for the Christian readers who were looking forward to the next miracle.

[@bellezavudd]

5:44 One more example of the way literary devices are used in the bible. Here it helps focus the soldiers to become better villains. Therefore raising the stakes and drama. And it puts the soldiers at the right place & time for the very dramatic escape and satisfying scene when the Egyptian soldiers are wiped out by the massive crash of waves as the sea closes. The authors are not attempting to convey truth or history. What they want to do is create a compelling narrative to lure in the audience.

[@Nivola1953]

Just one question for this invisible mass slaughterer, if you can harden the Pharaoh’s heart, why can’t you simply convince him that you are the Lord and begin worship you? Oh wait free will, right, but hardening the Pharaoh’s hearth isn’t it going against his free will too? 🤔🤔🤭🤭🤫🤫

[@Jimmy-Volmer]

l always thought that the line "And god hardened Pharaoh's heart." was simply "And Pharaohs was hardened." l had no idea God mind fucked him into being all pissed off. That makes this story so much worse.

[@joshuaa7266]

I think some newer translations said that instead, which is pretty messed up if it was done for the most obvious reason.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

So the pharaoh got hard? How good did god twerk for him to make the pharoah get hard?

[@jakeloranger1419]

I guess the Egyptians should have consulted the tide charts before going after the Israelites. I mean if you take the "walls of water" as hyperbole, the story kind of sounds like a depiction of the tide rolling out...and then rolling back in. But of course, since the Egyptians, who were meticulous record keepers, made no mention of having such a huge number of Hebrew slaves nor of what is essentially an equally huge slave rebellion, it is reasonable to assume this never happened. Another example of historical inaccuracy in a supposedly inerrant book. Oopsie!

[@sdscipio]

Didn't all cattle etc die twice, from hail, and boils, what is pulling these chariots?

[@Quvan]

All cattle are zombies at this point in the story of Moses.

[@visaman]

The cattle died not the horses.

[@sdscipio]

@@visaman how did they survive the boils, haul, etc. Are they super horses, are not some of them first born? Let's see you perform more mental gymnastics

[@visaman]

@@sdscipio Ah, ok. Only the animals in Egypt were affected by the curse, perhaps Pharaoh bought new horses from Arabia?

[@sdscipio]

@@visaman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and maybe they got a plane from American Airlines

[@sadderwhiskeymann]

Mr. Mehta i suffer from a *very* rare desease and the doctors gave me one year to live. It so happens I'm a nigerian prince surrounded by all kinds of gems and gold. I will happily give them to you when my time ends, *provided that* you will finish the series by then. Do we have a deal Sir?

[@colleyhillary5032]

🤣

[@FriendlyAtheist1]

Waitaminute... NOT FALLING FOR THIS ONE AGAIN.

[@samgoldberg7494]

Thank you for the laughs in this miserable times 👍

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

God is an evil prankster? Checks out...

[@mwperk02]

Just a torture porn kinda guy it seems.

[@Palmieres]

I'm surprised we don't get a verse in which God builds a pool, has everyone get in and then just removes the ladder, ala The Sims. Because that's basically what God does: create people, make their lives horrid, kill them out of boredom.

[@garryferrington811]

You get that in Twain's THE MYSTERIOUS STRANGER.

[@andybeans5790]

"... and there were the Egyptians, marching down upon them" marching, in chariots.

[@marvinmartion1178]

Funny how the Egyptians had a different story. But you never hear from that side.

[@starofjustice1]

Yeah, what's up with that? Kind of like it would hurt their preferred narrative...

[@garryharris3476]

Why did Moses have to wave his arms around if God was doing all the magic. It looks to me as if Moses is a powerful wizard and the now homeless Israelites should fear him. Especially since he can kill with his bare hands if you are on his wrong side. A wizard with anger issues.

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

1. The problem was, back then, royal rule went a few steps beyond the whole "divine right of kings" thing England had going on for centuries. They literally thought the pharaoh WAS a god, not just appointed by one, so they kind of had to listen. It was just what good PR got them, I suppose, but that many chariots would have been terrifying. Not too many cultures actually had chariot back then: they were basically the tank of the ancient world. Egypt and India are the only two I can think of who had them, and Greece a little later, but after the Egyptian age. To be fair, though, in terms of Indian armies, chariots weren't their only advantage. Can you say "elephants"? THAT would really have been terrifying, but Ksatriya princes were taught to ride them, I'm not kidding. 2. Seriously, English language, why didn't you give us a proper verb form for "genocide"? It would have been used a lot in the Bible. 3. Hang on: didn't God promise through the rainbow never to commit another mass genocide via water? Or was "he" only talking about killing everyone in the world via water? if so, technically, if there were one person left alive after a global flood, that promise still wouldn't have been broken. Always read the fine print, kids. And be sure you believe in the "one true god, or else you're f*cked. Personally, I don't believe in any gods literally, but I prefer Lord Krishna to Yahweh. Krishna never engaged in genocide. I mean, yeah, the Kaurava family technically ended up dead because of His advice, but He wasn't the one doing the fighting. Seriously, though, if you're an all-powerful deity, "accessory to murder" is a LOT lighter than what you see Yahweh doing for a good three quarters of these books.

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

@@harveywabbit9541, oh, not just Jupiter. Yahweh is a huge compilation of Near Eastern and Hindu gods. The hgod Indra, for example, was much more important bck in the day than he is now, and was, at the time, considered king of the gods, as well as the god of storms. But Yahweh would more specifically be based on deities like Anu (Mesopotamian god of the sky and king of the gods), and Dyaus Pater, who was the king of the gods for the proto-Indo Europeans, and whose name means "sky father". It' where most of the Romance languages even now get their name for God, and where the Hindus get the name for their Vedic sky god, Dyaus. Dyaus married Prithi, too, the goddess of the Earth, and that's not even the root of the 'father sky, mother Earth" tradition. Like I say, that goes way back to the proto-Indo Europeans, who originated in the Caucasus mountains. Which is also where we get the word "Caucasian", though they would have been darker than modern whites.

[@J.L.Media.]

At 3:20 I’m just waiting for the GOP analogy 😂

[@FionaBranker]

PLEASE KEEP THIS SERIES GOING 🤣

[@FreeWay1066]

No hement, you are not the only one that has been on the run during a heist

[@johnnehrich9601]

Does the bible ever record any time in the old testament where god actually did something totally good (not just good for Israel but bad for others)?

[@johnnehrich9601]

@@harveywabbit9541 Thanks - that's 1.

[@johnnehrich9601]

@@harveywabbit9541 You are saying therefore when hell freezes over, he is mean. Frankly, I think it is the other way around.

[@johnnehrich9601]

@@harveywabbit9541 Yes, I understand it isn't true, but as is being pointed out in this series, the popular conception that "god is good" is contrary to what the bible actually says. (I am so surprised to read about god zapping the pharaoh time and again just to show off his powers, not as is generally portrayed as god unselfishly doing these bad things to rescue "his people."

[@markjackson3459]

@@harveywabbit9541 - seriously, go and see somebody about your issues.

[@LM-jz9vh]

*Although the biblical narratives depict Yahweh as the sole creator god, lord of the universe, and god of the Israelites especially, initially he seems to have been Canaanite in origin and subordinate to the supreme god El.* Canaanite inscriptions mention a lesser god Yahweh and even the biblical Book of Deuteronomy stipulates that “the Most High, El, gave to the nations their inheritance” and that “Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob and his allotted heritage” (32:8-9). A passage like this reflects the early beliefs of the Canaanites and Israelites in polytheism or, more accurately, henotheism (the belief in many gods with a focus on a single supreme deity). *The claim that Israel always only acknowledged one god is a later belief cast back on the early days of Israel's development in Canaan.* *It is generally accepted in the modern day, however, that Yahweh originated in southern Canaan as a lesser god in the Canaanite pantheon* and the Shasu, as nomads, most likely acquired their worship of him during their time in the Levant. *Yahweh in the Canaanite Pantheon* The biblical narrative, however, is not as straightforward as it may seem as it also includes reference to the Canaanite god El whose name is directly referenced in `Israel' (He Who Struggles with God or He Who Perseveres with God). *El was the chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon and the god who, according to the Bible, gave Yahweh authority over the Israelites:* When the *Most High [El]* gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the Sons of God. For Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. (Deuteronomy 32:8-9, Masoretic Text). The Canaanites, like all ancient civilizations, worshipped many gods but chief among them was the sky-god El. *In this passage from Deuteronomy, El gives each of the gods authority over a segment of the people of earth and Yahweh is assigned to the Israelites who, in time, will make him their supreme and only deity; but it is clear he existed beforehand as a lesser Canaanite god.* *Yahweh as God of Metallurgy* According to scholar Nissim Amzallag, however, Yahweh was a god of metallurgy. Amzallag writes: An essential link between Yahweh and copper is suggested in the Book of Zechariah where the dwelling of the God of Israel is symbolized by two mountains of copper (Zech. 6:1-6). In his prophecies, Ezekiel describes a divine being as `a man was there, whose appearance shone like copper' (Ezek. 40:3), and in another part of this book, Yahweh is even explicitly mentioned as being a smelter (Ezek. 22:20). In Isaiah 54:16, Yahweh is explicitly mentioned as the creator of both the copperworker and his work…Such an involvement of Yahweh is never mentioned elsewhere for other crafts or human activities. (394) Amzallag further notes the similarities between Yahweh and other gods of metallurgy: The god of metallurgy generally appears as an outstanding deity. He is generally involved in the creation of the world and/or the creation of humans. The overwhelming importance of the god of metallurgy reflects the central role played by the copper smelters in the emergence of civilizations throughout the ancient world. (397) Amzallag compares the attributes of the Egyptian Ptah and the Mesopotamian Ea/Enki along with Napir of Elam, all gods of metallurgy (among their other attributes) with Yahweh and finds striking similarities. He further claims that the name of the god of the Edomites, Qos, is an epithet for Yahweh and notes how the Edomites, a people closely associated with metallurgy, were the primary workers and administrators of the copper mines at Timna and, further, that Edom is never mentioned in the Bible as challenging Israel in the name of a foreign god; thus suggesting that the two peoples worshipped the same deity (390-392). *From God of Metallurgy to Supreme Deity* Yahweh, according to Amzallag, was transformed from one god among many to the supreme deity by the Israelites in the Iron Age (c.1200-930 BCE) when iron replaced bronze and the copper smelters, whose craft was seen as a kind of transformative magic, lost their unique status. *In this new age, the Israelites in Canaan sought to distance themselves from their neighbors in order to consolidate political and military strength and so elevated Yahweh above El as the supreme being and claimed him as their own.* His association with the forge, and with imagery of fire, smoke, and smiting, worked as well in describing a god of storms and war and so Yahweh's character changed from a deity of transformation to one of conquest. *As the Israelites developed their community in Canaan, they sought to distance themselves from their neighbors and, as noted, elevated Yahweh above the traditional Canaanite supreme deity El.* They did not, however, embrace monotheism at this time. The Israelites remained a henotheistic people through the time of the Judges, which predates the rise of the monarchy, and throughout the time of the Kingdom of Israel (c.1080-c. 722). www.worldhistory.org/Yahweh/

[@garryferrington811]

That's interesting.

[@devinsmith4790]

Oh yes, the famous crossing of the Sea of Reeds.

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Also where God drowns Pharaoh & his army.Man God needs anger management.That or he needs to plan things better😂

[@devinsmith4790]

@@dragowolfraven3806 I mean he did hardened Pharaoh's heart one last time, so it was according to plan.

[@colleyhillary5032]

@@dragowolfraven3806 ...he needs a geography lesson on the world he 'created'

[@jacketrussell]

Sounds like an episode of the Simpsons.

[@bladerunner3314]

How dare you say the Simpsons EVER had this bad a script.

[@jacketrussell]

@@bladerunner3314 Did I say it would be a bad episode?

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Excellent analogy!

[@bladerunner3314]

@@jacketrussell To be comparable, yes, it would have to be the worst episode and then beaten to death with an already dead horse.

[@jacketrussell]

@@bladerunner3314 Nah!

[@garethbaus5471]

A cloud could appear to provide light if it was a cloud of smoke or volcanic ash over a fire or volcano in the evening or at night.

[@skepticusmaximus184]

Horray for the Red Sea Pedestrians. Amirite? Yaaaaay! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@WarriorDan]

Wait, we're complimenting the bible for the narrative symmetry of having a baby saved by water, ultimately as a man save others by controlling water? We're actually giving the bible credit for at least one instance of good writing? lol.

[@Drums-ve8on]

Yeah, and Egypt at that time had not yet learned about the wheel. Very tough on the chariots.

[@kevinstclair658]

I'm a bit sorry for pharaoh. Every time this God gets the urge to do some mischief, he harden pharaoh's heart, so he has an excuse for his mischievous behavior. Talk about a wicked SOB? I guess that's a Christian way and belief of what is considered good.

[@geshtu1760]

I have a question - how is it that pharaoh's 600 chariots and horses were able to "overtake" the Israelites before they crossed the Red Sea, but then somehow the 600K Israelite men (plus women, children, and livestock) managed to all cross the Red Sea on foot, without those chariots catching up to them. In fact it says the waters didn't recede until daybreak. What were they doing all that time?

[@visaman]

The Egyptians were happy to see them go, they were waving goodbye, until God made them go into the sea and drown.

[@alanthompson8515]

Geshtu Refuelling the horses?

[@geshtu1760]

@@alanthompson8515 ah, of course!

[@failuretocomunicate5266]

Thanks again!!!

[@Acheron-z5w]

god of the bible created bye ancient people, now this time they forced us to believe, if not they will threat us that there god's will punish us. So its time for me to cry or laugh 😆😉😎

[@juniorrodriguez2652]

Im glad you read scriptures, only the Holy Spirit can reveal what you think is wrong

[@garryferrington811]

Booooo! Boooo!

[@user-bw4lb3py4t]

So if god keeps Harding Pharaohs heart when is Pharaoh having a heart attack