The Shockingly WEIRD Way Teen Titans Ended

[@JordanFringe94]

Thanks so much for watching, were you a fan of the original Teen Titans show or are you more so enjoying the Teen Titans GO iteration?

[@rosemimic]

I adore this show and am sad about how it ended.

[@tb1753]

Enjoy the new one with my son but to hell with it bring back the og

[@otakuboutanime7771]

I'd love for you to put all my thoughts into words about how teen titans go is an inconsistent nightmare.

[@moved9254]

I have always and will always be a huge fan of The Original Teen Titans. I’ve never seen Teen Titans Go, don’t think I want to tbh but maybe one day I’ll look into it. I was so ecstatic to see you upload a video on this series’ ending. As a young kid/preteen when I first saw this series, I remember feeling like things were left up in the air. Probably because I never knew about the comics, or that she had a brother. I remember being so EXCITED Terra had returned [because her and Raven have always been my top two favorite characters] but when she acted like she didn’t remember them, I was so heartbroken. However, to be honest- knowing what she went through, I don’t blame her on wanting to start a new life. Thank you for the amazing video Jordan, I am happy to know she had a brother and finally know the official end to her story.

[@ConspiracyOpossum]

It was bad

[@fandomonium3789]

The answer I've always heard and liked the most is that when Trigon came to Earth, everyone on Earth but the Titans got turned to stone. So, when Raven sent her healing wave across the entire world, it de-stoned everyone on Earth. Including Terra. When Raven defeated Trigon, it set Terra free, and she built a new life for herself, free from the burdens and problems of her past.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

But why did that erase her memory?

[@RainyDays2790]

@@MASTEROFEVIL i dont think it did, i think after the dust cleared, she realized too much had happened and decided she didnt want that life any more. she just chose to move on

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

That's been my headcanon.

[@gilbertoguerra9680]

Wow that’s actually really genius they should of added that in the show ?

[@philiah]

Dude I like this idea

[@howdy4504]

I'll never forget seeing Slade's mask come off and seeing his dead rotting face. Probably the reason I'm still obsessed with horror to this day

[@JT5555]

there was a point when i ONLY knew slade from teen titans and always wondered what his face looked like and was kind of pissed when his mask comes off and his face isn't even there anymore.

[@carlosxchavez]

your account picture is very appropriate lol

[@mysticmongrel1289]

@@JT5555 Fucking same

[@sissysovereign1294]

That was perhaps very genius on the cartoon creators parts. Some fans probably already had an idea of how he looks via the comics, but as far as this iteration go, his face was a mystery. When we finally do see his face, it's completely obliterated and nothing more than a skull. They still managed to keep the unmasking a mystery and Iove it.

[@silkmilk2954]

Wait I thought slade was the guy with the white hair with thunder and storm??

[@jadden61]

The ending used to really bug me as a kid but now that I’m older i actually really enjoy it. It’s a really bittersweet ending but it’s a great lesson - nothing truly lasts forever and sometimes things just change over time, whether we want it to or not. All we we can really do is enjoy what we have to the fullest while we can.

[@kendrox0994]

I related so much to this analogy for the show that it hurt, take my like and continue on with your day haha

[@orangeslash1667]

@@kendrox0994 The Wiki confirmed that when Raven defeated Trigon, everyone was brought back including Terra. The problem is while she remembers what happened, she doesn't want to remember. Feeling worried about the safety of her loved ones due to her lack of control, she feels it's best to give up being a hero and move on. Sadly I don't blame her.

[@lucindamobley5492]

@@orangeslash1667 I never knew that was how she came back! It makes so much sense since the people in the city were encased in rock and so was Terra. I wonder if Raven knew at the time that by allowing her father to temporarily take over the world and then defeat him that she would also save another life that no one else could? I know that it really hurt Raven that she didn't think she could stop him or save her friends, but this was something good that came of the whole thing. Then when they made the Tokyo movie that helped to tie even more things together and bring Robin and Starfire together, it helped to give them a happy ending that goes along with the bittersweet ending beforehand.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@lucindamobley5492 I doubt that.

[@DaDualityofMan]

@@orangeslash1667 Where did they get that info from for the wiki tho?

[@martino5742]

the relationship between Robin and Raven is underrated. There's such a respect there that it almost seems like they've known each other longer than the team has been together. I think it's the combination of Raven being so afraid of being known but Robin being so responsible and trustworthy as a leader that he is the one person she will genuinely confide in. Great stuff especially in the season 4 culmination where they needed a THREE part episode to deliver Ravens's epic story

[@rainydays6675]

Yes

[@zyaicob]

Raven is a utlity belt away from being a Bat lol.

[@joshholland8564]

Cuz both birds

[@unmaxclasher8928]

I also think that RobRae 💜 ship makes sense but they never let it happen

[@mimoe7587]

There are comics where the first "Raven" Robin ever meets is her from the future who guides him on a mission to prevent some kind of horror in her time. From that perspective he did know her more then even she thought he did, let alone the other Titans. If the show does not use that as a part of Robin's backstory; I think her understanding him during his trauma with Slade and him returning the favor during the Tri-gon conflict definitely makes them like best friends. I see them more as chosen siblings then any kind of romance though.

[@SirusXIII]

I had the opportunity to ask Ashley Johnson (who voiced Terra) if she was given any extra insight as to whether the girl at the end was Terra, or if it was her and she had amnesia, or if she was faking it. She said that she asked the same thing and the director refused to tell her because he thought it would affect her performance. So, she said her "head canon" is that it was Terra, but due to the de-stoning process she lost her memory and wasn't lying to Beast Boy about not being her, she just simply didn't remember. So, that's how Ashley was trying to act it in the episode if that helps

[@yodaddyrc1220]

Did she say whether Things Change was trying to build up to anything or if the creative team was expecting a season 6 while making the episode?

[@SirusXIII]

@@yodaddyrc1220 it sounded like almost everyone involved was planning on there being a season 6. More or less they had been told "it's not guaranteed, but it's a safe bet". All of the actors involved always voiced interest in coming back, which was actually one of the only reasons why TTG even happened

[@yodaddyrc1220]

@@SirusXIII So “Things Change” was meant to lead up to something and is a cliffhanger? And if the VA’s were interested then why did they go along with ttg and not the original? They still could’ve continued that storyline.

[@zaqareemalcolm]

idk how much you want to consider this canon, people don't usually know this but in 2004, there was a comic follow up to the 2003 series called Teen Titans Go! (NO RELATION TO THAT OTHER SPINOFF ik its confusing), that in issue 51 did give a conclusion to Terra's story arc, including a full backstory as well as an appearance of the TT version of her brother Geoforce

[@dudethatlovessongs]

Kinda sucks that they ended it with “love changes”. Usually, shows end it with “love will stay the same no matter what” but I haven’t lived long enough to know if thats true or not.(For TRUE love, of course)

[@Bulbasaur617]

The original version of Teen Titans is definitely the best out of the two. When I seen this, I had no idea this (or technically the movie with Tokyo) is how the series ended. It just makes this sad, but a very understanding ending. At least for Beast Boy in a way.

[@ConspiracyOpossum]

At the time teen titans was not great its definitely not justice league . Young Justice is the best of the 3

[@orangeslash1667]

@@pleaseshutup7053 The writers said that's why Teen Titans exists to see if the anime art style can work well in Western animation. The creator also said that no matter how goofy Teen Titans got it would never be as campy as 50's Batman.

[@SmallWRLDS]

@@pleaseshutup7053 not really considering they probably meant mainstream which anime wasn’t mainstream back then

[@rileywagner5788]

@@pleaseshutup7053 but that's still not "main stream". I get what you're saying. But the very reason for toonami's existence was because cartoon network didn't have faith in anime appearing on their main time blocks. Toonami was essentially where cartoon network through the older series they didn't have faith in. Just because Pokemon and Dragon ball z were popular with kids back then, doesn't make it main stream. Main stream implies that people of all generations new what these things were at a baseline level. If you asked any adult back in the early 2000's what Dragon Ball z or Pokemon was, more then half of them wouldn't have a baseline knowledge of what it was. Popular and main stream are two different concepts.

[@hrage9342]

Yeah the original is definitely better. And also with how it ended from what I heard the season five finale is the end and the movie is apparently in between season 4 and 5, which would make more sense than the movie being the ending with how BB acts with the girls in Tokyo.

[@thegenericnerdking]

Weirdly, I think the way it ended is unintentionally powerful. It leaves kids with the message sometimes things happen that are beyond your control that you can't fix. For Beast Boy and the audience.

[@magical-soap5359]

I love that perspective! It speaks to all of us in an existential way. Head Injury Theater has really funny and cool reviews on Teen Titans the show and the last season was posted as All Things Come To An End. That post really sells the bittersweet emotion to me.

[@thegenericnerdking]

Thanks I've had years to think about it lol thanks for the recommendation

[@sissysovereign1294]

I agree. It's very ironic in the way it ended too since the creators were forced to end the show and it was beyond their control to continue it.

[@wdcain1]

The final moral of a superhero showing being there are some things that not even a superhero can fix is powerful.

[@naryosh_]

The way it ended was painfully relevant for its watchers, where our younger selves at the time just had to deal with the show being over and probably never getting something more from that specific series, as is the case for so much media we enjoyed back then

[@makonevernow]

This gave me chills. Teen Titans was *the* show to me as a kid. Feeling the heartbreak all over again. Still hoping for a proper s6. Thanks for the blast from the past Jordan.

[@305Independent]

Trust me you don't want them to revive it now. Writers rooms in Hollywood have become hot flaming garbage and whenever they bring shows/movie franchises back they usually flanderize them and fill them with identity politics.

[@mutantsandmemes]

@@305Independent sadly, you are correct. They're constantly changing characters to fit political narratives (e.g. forced diversity). Not to mention the low quality redesigns.

[@SummerRainer]

It wouldn't be a youtube comment section without someone making an innocent comment only for it to be ruined by chuds complaining about diversity and politics in hypotheticals

[@PotaraGuy]

@@SummerRainer Wouldn’t be a youtube comment section without people shilling for garbage quality and mocking others for being tired of woke shit either.

[@susear5939]

@@305Independent yeah that's true. It was a surprise and amazing to see another show from the 2000s get its final season and ending in Samurai Jack in 2017. I believe this was only possible cus of Genndy Tartakovsky. I don't know of anyone of that level that worked on Teen Titans or Go to be able to work and give the show the final season 6 for a conclusion.

[@TheFacelessStoryMaker]

I always loved the episode where Robin was hallucinating Slade and Robin yelled at Starfire for letting him get away until she said "there was no one there". That stuck with me showing how PTSD can drive someone crazy.

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

It wasn't exactly PTSD though. It was an obsession with a mix of drug overdose

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

The thing about this episode is that it's very clear Terra remembers everything but is trying to hide that as best she can. The way she words things when talking to Beast boy don't sound like it's just some random girls or that she has amnesia.She wants a fresh start but also does'nt think she deserves a second chance from Beast Boy after all she did.

[@seithmyers6757]

She doesn't deserve it for sure. She's a villain now and will be a danger to those kids because her powers still exist. At least with the Titans they can take care of themselves if her powers get out of control. That school, nope she's a bomb ready to kill at least 100 people. She also had to be stealing to get her clothes. She would have deserved a second chance with Beast Boy had she not did that.

[@eileensnow6153]

Another comment says that the VA for Terra played it as amnesia, but I felt like she was lying about having no memory. She’s in control of her powers now enough to keep them under wraps and blend in with society. She’s choosing to live a peaceful civilian life instead of choosing to be “super” anything, be it hero or villain.

[@kou7191]

I agree she knew, or at least vaguely remembered. I can only guess but if she truly had amnesia, she would've been happy to find out where she came from before losing her memories and such.

[@wfanking1187]

Beast Boy: Why can't things go back to how they were? Terra: Things change beast boy.... Literally signaled the end of our childhood and also how lame modern cartoons like the sequel teen titans go are!

[@rita8274]

@@wfanking1187 TBH I thought Teen Titans Go was awful but its pretty hilarious. 100% not the same or comparable but for what it is, it's hilarious. I do think it shouldn't be so marketed for children as it is because they make more sex jokes/innuendos than the Teen Titans we grew up with and that was marketed to 12+.

[@christopherballero866]

While Teen Titans ended on a sour note it seems appropriate. May I just say I kind of love how Slade/DeathStroke is like an evil version of Batman. Both were trained by Raj-al-Ghoul, Slade wanted to lead the League of Assassins unlike Batman, Slade wants an apprentice while Batman didn't. This really helps in terms of giving Dick Grayson/the first Robin a great rival

[@Gatorade69]

Oh cool. I didn't know that Slade/Deathstroke was trained by Ras al Ghul. Was this in the comics or did they mention it in the animated stuff ?

[@christopherballero866]

@@Gatorade69 while never mentioned in the show itself it has been brought up in other DC media. The reason why the name change in Teen Titans was because death can't be specifically mentioned in cartoons/kids shows. I also think the creators wanted the show to stand on its own and not seem like a s spin-off of DC in particular the DCAU

[@thedeathskeleton4957]

it definitely depends on the version of Deathstroke you're referring to. In the original comics, he was more like an anti heroic superhuman Batman. Even having an "Alfred" named Wintergreen who served as his overall conscience, and mostly tried to keep Slade from crossing the line. Deathstroke however has always been more about his morality and his dysfunctional family, than fighting crime to honor his parents like Batman. Deathstroke's dad was abusive and his mom presumably offed herself when he was a kid.. In other words, he's not the biggest fan of either usually.

[@chrisdonovan205]

@@christopherballero866 tbf slade sounds so badass saying it in gravly manner to bad god dam ttg ruin it when they mention it while insulting old fans about slade

[@DaDualityofMan]

@@christopherballero866 I never got that reasoning for why they couldn't use Deathstroke's name, because other DC cartoons from that time talk about death all the time

[@BewareofBordome]

It always cracks me up how Terra practically set Beast Boy up for failure. "Hey Beast Boy! Promise not to tell anybody that I don't have control over my dangerous powers, despite the fact that I am so unstable I couldn't keep it a secret from you for more than a day, and basically a blind person could put together that I don't know what I'm doing, let alone the renowned former side-kick of the world's greatest detective." Her secret is predictably revealed. "I can't believe you did this to me, Beast Boy!!" "So, I know the fact that I've been working for the Supervillain that has traumatized your team multiple times, and I helped him plan an ambush on said team, and ensured that they would have no way of contacting you, so you could gleefully go on a date with me as your friends are being slaughtered looks real bad. But, in my defense, you promised not to be upset earlier when we were about to make out, sooooo we cool?" ".......No." *Surprised Pikachu face* Eh, I guess it makes sense since she's a teenager, and she was literally being gaslit by one of the most calculative manipulators she was ever going to meet.

[@inplane9970]

Realistically, that's what insecurity does. Terra was so insecure about her abilities that she doesn't want to even talk about it. Funnily enough, everything would've been fine if Robin was able to tell Terra about her instability after training, but Slade interrupted and managed to reaffirm Terra's insecurities even more. Then it all went downhill from there. Just bad timing with the wrong kind of people.

[@dametriuswesleyakadj]

you broke that down wonderfully

[@jiposx4184]

I love this so much. Thank you.

[@RuneKatashima]

You have to remember they're people. Not 3rd-party mature observers. This occurs because they are broken and flawed and not omniscient or mature.

[@jonbrewer297]

In the comics, she first animates the Statue of Liberty and attacks New York, and then she says terrorists forced her to do that, and Beast Boy is a simp.. But she's...a lot less sympathetic in the comics.

[@hadoobieboi]

Cyborg and bumblebee had a similar arc, granted not the ending, you did allude to how they weaved others stories into a crime fighting show. I think the brother blood arc, as well as the Robin as Slades apprentice were two of the best arcs this show had.

[@305Independent]

And don't forget Beast Boy's arc in season 5 with the Doom Patrol.

[@hadoobieboi]

@@305Independent I honestly did :(. But going back holy shit yeah, anything with Gorilla Grodd I'm hyped for

[@nicolefornuto7177]

also Raven's arc in season 4

[@cherryblossom7120]

Cyborg and bumblebee were good ship.💭

[@hadoobieboi]

@@nicolefornuto7177 I almost added that one too but then I feel I would've never stopped

[@matteomonellini2345]

I am still, years later, completely taken aback by how well they adapted The Judas Contract and still kept most of its efficacy as a story despite having to tone it down so much.

[@inserisciunnome]

Honestly more than adapt It they Just rewrote It to have a completely different message while KEEPING the main events fairly similiar, all in about 5/6 episodes, wich in my humble opinion, Is even MORE impressive

[@Deep_Solstice]

...

[@amyyoung2830]

That was an extremely disturbing story arc. Tarted up *still a minor* Terra with her revealing clothing, cigarette and whorish makeup *putting the moves* on Deathstroke still turns my stomach nearly 30 years after the storyline ended.

[@pc3340]

This show tore me up as kid. I really feel for the kids nowadays. They just don’t make tv like they used to. This is a kids show for Christ sakes and it still sometimes makes me tear up rewatching it.

[@eugeneturner7520]

Action cartoons with good plots are expensive to produce.

[@joeljustjazzing]

@@eugeneturner7520 good plot costs money? Anyways i think warners has the budget to make another teen titans season altho the newer version is probably just that popular with seven year olds i guess

[@eugeneturner7520]

@@joeljustjazzingHigh quality action animation is expensive and usually produced at a loss, usually one that the company hopes to make back the money on through toy sales and other merchandise. It just so happens that shows intense plots that aren't slices of life tend to usually feature large amounts of action animation and extensive drama. As such, Teen Titans - the original - is an expensive show to produce, and most developers just don't think it's worth it, anymore, as they feel like people get enough action through video games, nowadays, so they aren't making back that loss, especially given people usually don't buy the toys.

[@dreamervillechase]

Man I agree most animated shows these days are fast pace goofy and absolutely no real substance 😂 it’s so many shows about absolutely nothing. Like Hey Arnold for example was such a wise show

[@joeljustjazzing]

@@eugeneturner7520 i asked if good plot costs money, not good animation.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

I miss the original Teen Titans series, it was one of the best animated DC shows of all time and i agree that the only thing i didn't like about the ending was that it left so many things unresolved.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

I agree Teen Titans is amazing. But I don't think DC has a "best" or series of "best" animated show(s). Teen Titans, Young Justice, Justice League Unlimited, Batman Beyond, Batman the Brave & the Bold, Batman/Superman the Animated Series, Harley Quinn, and quite a few more (yet Batman doesn't feel super oversaturated somehow.) DC's properties & characters seem to transition to animation so well. All of these hold some of the most iconic interpretations of the comics/characters for all time.

[@schemar17]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 but teen titans has a lot of fanfiction written about it

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@schemar17 And that matters because...?

[@hdcybear7792]

Try watching young justice

[@schemar17]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 which means it has a big fanbase

[@Dragonpikachu1994]

I always assumed the reason Terra came back was because of season 4, during the finale of that arc people are turned to stone, and when the titans won, everyone turned back to normal, and apparently that meant everyone. I know I can't be the first person to come up with that, but I never see anyone mention it

[@jonbrewer297]

I mean, in the comics, there's a second Terra in Wolfman's run. She's supposed to be Geo-Force's daughter in the future, who took the name because of the stories he told her about her aunt. (Yeah, the Titans never did tell him the truth about his sister, and the original Outsiders other than Batman all hold a grudge against Nightwing for that.) Then it turns out her future was a lie constructed by a villain called Monarch as part of a crazy plan with Hal Jordan to unmake reality and reboot a world where nothing bad ever happens. And her backstory was a lie constructed by another villain called the Time Trapper in order to stop the Monarch from doing this because that whole "destroy all reality" thing ruined his plans, whatever they are. (The Time Trapper's been around for over 60 years, and he's less a villain and more a Lovecraftian horror.)

[@TankHardcheese]

I'll always admire the OG Teen Titans finale because it taught me a few important life lessons. People change, sometimes what's best for someone is to let them go, and a lot of times things just don't have resolutions. All hard lessons to accept but important ones all the same.

[@razkable]

Beast boy telling robin he's coming when called aka the guy who caused terra to leave indirectly because he spilled the beans and made bb seen by her to be a liar is iconic to me...bb never held that against his leader

[@ArtForSwans]

Teen Titans was one of those shows that I never really forgot about despite seeing it so long ago. The impact it left on me was monumental. I'm positive it influenced my taste in media as an adult. It hurt a lot seeing such an emotional and well-written show for kids continue on as a goofy slapstick comedy show. But I guess things change...

[@RaindropsBleeding]

This story still tears me up to this day, partly because I've had someone (who looks remarkably similar to Terra) walk out of my life like this, refusing to give an answer as to why she left. She was my best friend for nearly ten years and then just... Gone. I saw myself in Beast boy's desperation in that final scene. All these years later it's still raw every time I see it.

[@brandyDC]

I know just how you feel man

[@frosty_storm]

Omfg same-

[@krabrina]

same, this makes me feel less alone.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I'll always regret Starfire didn't get her own season. It would've been great to see Blackfire (and maybe Wildfire) take the main stage as well.

[@gaybitgaming]

But it also made starfire comics popular with missing out on starfire fans took too the books

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@gaybitgaming Yeah, but Blackfire and Wildfire are pretty underrated--though her brother most of all. Even in Titans United, he's not even mentioned (and he was created just a month after Blackfire).

[@DaDualityofMan]

Yeah, that's the only thing I really don't like about how the show ended, she did deserve her own season too, and I'm surprised Blackfire hasn't appeared more, she was arguably the most popular character in Teen Titans outside of the main team, and I never even heard of Wildfire until years after the show ended.

[@HeadHunter-mv2ht]

In the comics based on the original animated cartoon series they had a story with Wildfire in it.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@HeadHunter-mv2ht Technically that was Madame Rogue. And it was weird that his outfit was covered up like Blackfire's when he doesn't have the same issue as her.

[@ShadyRK9]

Ah back in the day when us as kids didn't fully know when a cartoon would end. It'd just stop airing new episodes! Also I think the best episode that could've been seen as the Series finale was when they took down The Brain and his League of super villains and when Jinx joined the good side!

[@JT5555]

i don't know: raven VS trigon would have made a pretty metal ending.

[@ShadyRK9]

@@JT5555 OMG! Yes! That was badass! It even had the title "The End!" That would've also been a best series finale! 🤩 (And back when Cartoon Network recently had a marathon of OG Teen Titans like last year or in 2020 I thought that WAS the series finale but it wasn't!)

[@JT5555]

@@ShadyRK9 right? hell,she even ends the battle by just berating him about all the reasons the titans are her real family before blasting his demonic ass out of the dimension (and that's saying nothing to all the shit that went down *BEFORE* that) so the series ending with the most emotionally repressed character in the series ending the apocalypse while letting out her deepest feelings would have made for such a killer ending to all of it. go big or go home,right?

[@djlip685]

I freaking loved jinx and wish that I could have seen a side arc of that

[@GanonGhidorah]

Terra was easily one of my favorite parts of the show. While I was initially upset that Terra left because of a misunderstanding, I was glad that she came back later... My brother caught onto the symbolism of Terra's hair blocking _half_ her face at the end of the episode. I didn't want to believe him...But when the next episode came out called "Betrayal," I was heartbroken... Terra's redemption actually reminded me of the Majin Vegeta arc from Dragon Ball Z - which happened to be airing on Toonami around the same time...So I guess I just assumed that people turning to stone after expunging all of their energy was just a _thing_ that happened... But I was hopeful that Terra would one day come back; my hopes were from the Trigon Trilogy after Slade opens the soul vault and gets his soul back, coming back to life. I figured that maybe Terra's soul or life-force could've returned to her body this way. So I was pleased to see her return in "Things Change." It would've been fitting considering that Terra's actions in Aftershocks resulted in Slade's _Death,_ so Slade's actions could've resulted in her resurrection. Honestly...it's really the fact that how this plot-thread has been left hanging for nearly 20 years is what bothered me for a long time. But now a days, considering how badly things can get screwed-up when they're brought back...perhaps its' better that this remains buried. But the truth is, this could've been a major character-building moment for Beast Boy; instead of having Slade tell him that Terra doesn't remember because she doesn't _want_ to remember, Beast Boy could've learned that she now has a _second chance_ - a clean slate to start over, so he shouldn't burden her with the memory of who she was, what she became, and what she did; because no matter how much the group accepted her, and how much good came from it...the bad would leave a permanent mark that would just slowly eat away at her...Beast Boy could've been mature enough to spare her that. Never knew about the comics though...

[@xryxix]

All of this fr. Feel what you said a lot. It's a whole thing

[@chrisperez9854]

Would Terra have befriended him if he accepted that she wasn’t going to be a Titan anymore?

[@TeddyDuffle]

RE your last paragraph, I think BB did realise that by the end, though, which is why he finally let her go. So that's something, at least!

[@inplane9970]

It is reassuring to confirm in the comics that Terra is indeed just living a normal life. Even her brother Geoforce doesn't want to disturb her because Terra is the happiest she's ever been in her life. Make you really wonder if being a traveling, pick-me superhero was even close to the truth to how her personality is. I speculate her alias as cheerful "Terra" was just a way to cope with all the bad shit thrown at her by staying positive. Now that the truth is out to everyone who would know, she has no reason to act like the backbone of every situation. Hence her more toned down attitude.

[@dylanmerediths]

I hope my kids in the future watch and analyze TV the same way you and your brother have

[@Beriorn]

Terra's portrayal in the show differs quite a bit from her appearance in the comic. In her comic appearance she's a lot more one-dimensional, a mercenary hired by Slade (or Deathstroke, whatever you want to call him) to infiltrate the Titans as part of his mission to capture them for HIVE. She's a creep to the point where even _Slade_ is weirded out, but not too weirded out to not have a fling with an underaged girl about a third his age. Yes, it's as creepy as it sounds. Terra manages to guilt trip the Titans into revealing their true identities and relays this information to Slade, who sets a number of traps ranging from trapping Wonder Girl's darkroom (she's into analogue photography, or as it was known in the 80s: photography), sending a gift-wrapped bomb to Starfire, modifying one of Cyborg's kitchen chairs so that it'd clasp restrains onto his wrists and ankles and then electrocute them, or drugging the glue strips on the envelopes that Beast Boy uses to reply to his fanmail (yes, Slade actually did that). His plan to capture Robin was to fistfight the one Titan whose main power is fistfighting, which is why Robin was the only one who avoided capture. Terra's downfall was caused when Robin received backup in the form of Jericho, aka Joseph Wilson. Yes, in the comics he's the second son of Slade. He has the power to possess people, something Terra didn't know. So when Jericho possessed his father and turned him against her, Terra was so outraged by the betrayal she freaked out and brought down the entire HIVE base, killing her. In the comic Beast Boy was very much interested in her, and she only pretended to like him back. Even after her betrayal and death Beast Boy kept insisting that she was being blackmailed or mind controlled by Slade, so he challenged Deathstroke the Terminator to a fight to the death. But when he showed up it was an unarmed Slade out of costume and refused to fight back Beast Boy was unable to kill an unarmed man. Slade then treated Beast Boy to breakfast (yes, Slade actually did that) and explained that he only took the job against the Titans because it was forced onto him by HIVE when his son Grant took the job to capture them and was pain in advance in physical enhancements to his body, only to die before he could complete the job. HIVE doesn't take kindly to people failing so they forced Slade to take the job, who actually succeeded in capturing and handing over the Titans. When the Titans escaped he just pointed out to HIVE that it wasn't his problem and if they wanted him to capture them again, they'd have to pay. But before they could Jericho possessed him and we know the story from there. So thanks to the entire mess Slade lost his oldest son, his second son had turned against him (and even joined the Titans) and HIVE hadn't paid him, meaning that he came out worse than he went in. While he knew the identities of the Titans he promised Beast Boy to not act on this and that he'd leave them alone... which he did all the way until the Teen Titans got a comic version based on the show and he became a primary villain. The whole "who is the second Terra" thing also came up, even though it was very unclear whether Terra II was a clone, the original with memory loss or something else. She really was into Beast Boy though, who was pretty weirded out by this. There's also Terra III, who is from a secret civilization deep underground and was given the genetic template alongside the powers of the original Terra, except she's got black hair instead of blond. Terra III, or Atlee, has little to do with the Titans aside from sometimes hanging out with Starfire and is best known as Power Girl's sidekick. Were the changes any good? Well, Terra was changed up quite a bit from a rather flat villain into something better rounded. Slade by contrast traded in his pathos to become a more prominent villain, making him less sympathetic but more evil. So I'd say it kind of rounds out.

[@BaileeMaleknights]

Woah, this is quite the info, especially about the whole Slade thing just being hired to go after the Titans and then treating beastboy to breakfast 😂

[@leodouskyron5671]

Good recap (though Terra was not one dimensional and there is a reason she is remembered and kept coming back). I would add that she was meant to be the Phoenix (aka Marvel comic character) Saga girl for the series. Complete with killing her off.

[@-beautylady-7483]

There is no way Slade had a fling with Terra

[@Beriorn]

@@-beautylady-7483 It gets worse: at the end of his breakfast with Slade Beast Boy asks him if he had ever made love to Terra. After an awkward silence Slade asks if it would make any difference, which a distraught Beast Boy answers with a no. Slade gave him a quick pep talk then left within five panels because how to you even continue a conversation after a question like that.

[@-beautylady-7483]

@@Beriorn How in the world did they get away with putting that in the comic?!

[@amcalycat93]

Raven's speech during that two parter gets me every time. "I trust you! We trusted you!" It's the kind of emotional impact that's so rare to find because you can feel how much it meant

[@irkalla100]

This show was such a masterpiece, and if they had continued it it'd be right up there with AtLA. Every character is so fleshed out and developed. Urrrrgh I'm still so mad they canceled this for teletubies titans.

[@xryxix]

Honestlyyyyy it's so messed up

[@juliahock5549]

I also wish they had the same funding that the new shows have. I don't want an animation change or anything, or anything that would change the tone of the show, but it would allow for many for opportunities to bloom

[@gtf234]

You do know there's 7 years between the two shows right? TTA ended in 2006; Go! launched in 2013. The latter happened because the DC Nation animated shorts were popular. TTA was long over by then, it wasn't cancelled for a show they wouldn't decide to make close to a decade later.

[@xryxix]

@@gtf234 I hear you but they still didn't add anything to it so it was basically cancelled by hiatus

[@gtf234]

@@xryxix Still wasn't cancelled for Go! you all need to stop lying to yourselves by pretending the reruns in 2010's reruns on Boomerang were their original airings. The show was already cancelled by 2005; the show's producer David Slack insinuated ratings declined in the 4th season and that Mattel wanted the show dead as new the master toy licensee for Cartoon Network but TTA's toy deal was controlled by Bandai. Go! wasn't a twinkle in anybody's eye.

[@PrimeParadiso]

I used to love the Trigon three parter, but the best episode imo was "Haunted" when Robin has some mad PTSD and sees shadows of Slade everywhere. It does so much to show how our fears and obsessions can eat up inside and drive us insane

[@jonbrewer297]

Would you believe in the comics, that was Brother Blood? Starfire and her family, Donna, even Alfred wasn't safe from his anger at the time. Yeah, he even insulted Alfred! (Which should've been a sign something was up.)

[@jonbrewer297]

As an aside, this might explain things. When Jason came back, he was impersonating Dick and murdering criminals for a while. He wanted to tap into that righteous anger so Dick would join him. One bad day? God knows Jason would recognize the phrase more than Dick would. Or Bruce Jones is a terrible writer and doesn't know a thing about these characters, and DC needs a real archivist to get writers up to speed on who they're writing.

[@littlebadassgaming]

Whoo boy. You'd be right.

[@cjtrules1]

If that was the reason you like Haunted then what did you think of "Fear Itself"?

[@alpaca9994]

The best episode is mad mod there is no competition

[@JayniacJr]

You weren't kidding, this video is exactly 28 minutes long! I loved it dude! Always found it interesting that the final spoken words of the show are "...Titans over" Love the Game Trailer reference! LOL old and bold my dude! The final episode aired in Canada a week before my piano teacher died. I watched "Things Change", went to my lesson, and came back home...unaware of the fact that both my favorite show and my teacher wouldn't be coming back the following week. Because of that, this show will always stay with me, and it was nice seeing you cover the Terra arc and bring back memories. Hope you have a great day.

[@JordanFringe94]

I’m so sorry that happened like that, thank you for sharing man! I always appreciate your friendship and support! Have a great day as well!

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

That was sad

[@alijah1539]

I thought I had cried all my tears for this relationship but bro.... You made it all come back. I still feel for BB and his heart being destroyed like I'm 14 again.

[@alijah1539]

Also no matter what Go tries to do to make itself stand apart or give it a reason to exist none of it justifies us not getting proper closure on the show. Tokyo was very meh even back in the day and Go was just a complete slap in the face

[@ajdude9]

I feel like Teen Titans really highlights what makes a good cartoon, which can be seen in other loved shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender and even later on in Adventure Time. All of these shows never once talked down to their audience or treated them as less intelligent than they were. They embraced serious, real topics while maintaining an air of goofiness on the side to temper it, and both of these sides work to highlight each other. Teen Titans had characters that felt like real people with real emotions, and it's why Teen Titans Go feels so soulless, because the characters don't really have emotion other than surface level issues. Where Teen Titans can show serious character development like the relationship between Beast Boy and Terra or Robin and Starfire, Teen Titans Go would stop everything to do a funny fart and then spent the rest of the episode laughing about how funny the fart was because it was so random, proceeding to make the entire theme of the episode about funny farts; and at the end of it all, the status quo is maintained and everyone is reset to how they started, rather than being allowed to grow or have an overarching plot.

[@d4s0n282]

man I gotta watch teen titans sometime I guess

[@fiveyup]

It’s just a dumbed down version of the regular show, more for kids. The other shows that play on the channel are for kids but I miss the main show too

[@lucere3674]

My friends and i watched the series recently and we were all shocked at the last episode. The final conversation between Beast Boy and Terra is almost a perfect representation of fans of the original show like ourselves and the disappointment and conversation we have had about the newer show.

[@AdNoctemMedia]

As a kid I loved Teen Titans and I was heavily emotionally invested in the Terra storyline. But of course the show just came on TV when it did and I had no conception of seasons or anything so I would try to watch it any time I could hoping to find out what happened. This video is a major nostalgia moment.

[@cocanutmelk220]

same!! it was usually when i went to see my dad on the weekends that i got to watch the show so everything was a little confusing whenever i did

[@asteria3604]

This + not being a native speaker with an English vocabulary of a carrot = never knowing there was a storyline lol

[@candiigurl7893]

TT is a classic Cartoon Network show. It played such a big role in my love for animated shows, especially back then. To this day, the show still gets me excited.

[@theredeft5319]

I still vividly remember this episode. Being shocked that this was the end of the series. I’m still sad we didn’t get a season 6 and a star fire focus main arc(all the other titans got one). Anyway my interpretation was its Terra and she remembers BB, but she purposely wants to get away from her old life. She thinks she caused too much hurt to him and the others. It’s kind of insane it ended like that and a message about letting things go sometimes. Also I’m salty that teaser made it seem like we might get the show back, but it was just the crossover with Go, which I hate. I’d love to see a revival of the original.

[@laurocoman]

Beast-Boy always had a great moral compass and a great handle in reaching out to people, he had a very high emotional intelligence. When those two electric villains show up, he picks up very quickly that they at least one of them is not evil, the guy just was not able to understand what he was doing and was too dumb to be aware of his victims. Beast-Boy interacted with him twice and that was enough for him to start doubting his ways. He is the glue that keeps the group together.

[@elizawulf8180]

I'd note that Terra's relationships to the other Titans also reinforces their own story arcs - be it Beast Boy leaving his original team to find a more accepting one; Raven being walled off and not fully trusting because she can't trust her powers because of her father; Robin and Slade and themes of control...

[@whitedragoness23]

And how starfire never got her story arc…

[@stubbornfilly]

I liked the season 4 finale “The End,” the best, and thought of “ Trouble in Tokyo,” as a nice epilogue. I might be a biased since Raven was my favorite character. In my imagination, I like to think Raven and Beast Boy finally got together after the series came to a close. I always enjoyed all their little heart to heart moments, and thought that they really listened to and understood each other

[@NRSaha-sg6lh]

They really do understand each other no matter what someone says

[@FlashQuatsch]

Ngl when Terra appeared first I was real salty cuz she became BB's crush and i really wanted him to be with Raven

[@steeltimberwolf]

@@FlashQuatsch Same here

[@sunspotmill1291]

For me, I always considered “Calling All Titans 1 and 2” as a better or more proper finale for the whole show. The two-part episode is basically an Infinity War/Endgame kind of situation for the Titan saga. “Trouble in Trouble” was a fine ending, but it felt more like a regular TV movie special than a grand finale. And “Things Change” felt like a cliffhanger made for a potential season 6 that never got greenlighted. I do think it’s a good ending for an entire season, not so much for an entire series. So it feels a bit off for a show to deliberately conclude with a character from season 2 being brought back from the dead just to teach a lesson about changes after five seasons in.

[@seithmyers6757]

@@sunspotmill1291 dude they regressed her character development as well. It was not finished it feels like spilled milk of an idea than a finished episode. It has gaping holes and only makes her look worse because it looks like she learned nothing. She has those powers like it or not and her lies make her gas's lighting Slades level. Not to forget her clothes had to be stolen as she never had those. Her powers are going to manafest themselves and everyone at that school will be in danger. A better fit is where they had her where she sacrificed herself or her out and being a wondering superhero after she got broke out. The break out also is a big plot hole because raven never sensed her friend got unfrozen. Now I would love if that wasn't terra but a Slade made clone and the real Terra is in trouble because Slade holds grudges you think he'd let his naughty apprentice that got him killed just get up without him going after her? This could also be a good lesson for Beast Boy to keep digging for the truth and take nothing at face value. Also what Slade said seemed like he was trying to hurt Beast Boy or manipulate him.

[@inquiry...]

just want to say thank you, these videos are really bringing me back to my childhood. one of the best parts of the video for me are the little breaks in between the video, these little clips of the "cartoon network" universe simply make me giddy, nostalgic, and a little sad knowing that they're times long gone. your videos are incredible, keep up the great work!

[@PhelesDragon]

I was very alone when this finale aired. A year prior, I'd had a housefire, my mother had been arrested for animal hoarding, and I'd severed my relationships with everyone around me. I leaned on this show far too hard, I'll be the first to admit. It filled the void I had fallen into, and this finale sent me down a spiral. The show was all I had at the time, and the pointedly depressing ending hit me like a truck. I eventually turned it around and made myself better, but for years I couldn't even address this show for the damage it had inadvertently done (or, more accurately, I had let it do to me). Nothing against the stylistic choice of ending, but the impact it had on me was potent and long lasting.

[@delilahl5934]

I had a similar relationship with the show too. I loved the show and the artwork and the story works behind it but I definitely leaned too much on it as it was the only thing I really had to guide me through my life. I was in a dark time with horrible trauma and learned that I could be dynamic and that people could be good and bad and it wasn't black and white so I complicated my life more so than I should have thinking that life was just that complicated when.... Obviously it doesn't have to be and now that I'm a well-adjusted adult I love the whole series and wouldn't change anything but in retrospect could have had a different and probably more productive outlet lol

[@narnia1233]

Yeah, I used to love the show Naruto and the side character Hinata I related way too much to. She was an older sister but her younger sister was stronger and better than her at everything, I was also an older sister but I had a disability whereas my younger sister didn’t and she always beat me at everything. Hinata loved her younger sister even though her younger sister wasn’t very nice to her and thought of her older sister as a bit pathetic at first. Unfortunately my sister was the same and I felt exactly the same as Hinata-I never blamed my sister but blamed myself. I hated myself too for being weak. For a time too I almost gave up, but I too like Hinata ended up having a crush on a boy who was laughed at by everyone but he was a good person and it made me want to be stronger too. I didn’t discover Naruto until after I had already been through a lot and was getting better but after I discovered Naruto that story was my anchor during my college years. I seriously would read that story whenever I was feeling stressed or down throughout college and even as a young professional. And so of course it meant more than I can say how the author gave Hinata a completely happy ending despite all the backlash he did get. (I read that even his wife didn’t want Hinata to get this extremely happy ending-and I do get it, I never disliked Sakura, I always really liked Sakura just as Hinata does as a friend in the show). But I did think that it would have been difficult for Hinata to have a happy ending without marrying Naruto and it just really really meant so much to me that she got the happy ending. So I feel for you too, people may say it’s dumb but somehow it does give hope and means something when a story shows a character full of struggles and isn’t even considered important by most (especially a side character) to then be given a happy ending. It just somehow has so much weight. In my life I didn’t get the happy ending that Hinata did, but at least I know just from the story itself that there are people out there who love me and care enough to give a character like me the absolute best ending. That’s basically how I see it. It just makes you feel like others do care.

[@Lisa_Flowers]

My thing is, people make the choices they make to survive things they go through. It's really easy to look back and judge yourself harshly for those choices, without ever considering how much of a difference hindsight and distance from the trauma can make. When you're going through the event you don't really have any of this, you're just trying to get by. You don't have true knowledge of how you'll get through this, or if you even will; you don't have enough distance from the painful feelings to think more rationally; and you don't yet have the maturity and knowledge that you developed getting yourself out of that hard time. So of course, when you have these things, it's super easy to look back and think that it was easy to have made different healthier choices, when in reality, in the moment, it probably wasn't. I do this all the time with my past self. Why didn't I do X? Or see that y was actually true? But like, my past self having had to figure that stuff out themselves is why I have that knowledge now. It isn't as easy as retroactively applying current knowledge and lessons to the past. Living the past the way we did is what taught us those lessons more often than not. This is especially the case when a lot of the mistakes we made were fairly innocuous and didn't harm a lot of people. If they were harmful, than of course a part of the process is also holding ourselves accountable for the harm we caused. Maybe there were healthier choices that we could have made but just decided not to. That's on us. It's a both/and. All that is to say, I think you're being too hard on yourself. You were going through a very hard time and using what you had access to, to cope. There are much worse things you could have used, and in the grand scheme of things, getting too wrapped up in a cartoon and hating it's finale is hardly a crime. If it helped you get through trauma, so what? As far as I know it wasn't all that harmful, and maybe it was the one thing that kept you going long enough to be a healthier happier person. That's nothing to be ashamed of. If anything, that past version of you is to thank for you having got here.

[@swiftfox7725]

I can relate, as I had fallen on hard times myself. I'm from New Orleans, and this episode first aired just a few months after Hurricane Katrina.

[@josht100]

I grew up on this show as a kid never had a lot of friends and Omg when it ended I was crying 😭 I’m not even lying bruh it very much filled the void made it feel not so lonely not r gonna lie this one and shaoilin showdown and Pokémon and the Jackie Chan show glad I’m not the only one I remember when I first saw it I was home alone after school and I cried for a solid hour before anyone found me

[@oldmanjenkinsgaming3555]

Man, they just don't make shows like this anymore. So much detail and character development that is not or even rarely seen in shows today🙏

[@eugeneturner7520]

Shows like The Owl House do well on character concepts and arcs, and development - but the SJW lazy CalArts arts style really ruins it for me. I really rather miss when shows actually looked good AND had good plots and characters. I feel like it will be a long time before we get another Teen Titans, or even an original Ben-10 like show. Generator Rex was, honestly, the last of it's kind for Cartoon Network, it would seem, while Legend of Korra was the last of its kind for Nickedeon's short lived action shows. Kind of makes you wish they had picked up Constant Payne. As for Disney - well, Disney XD / Jetix - it was nice while it lasted, and it tried, as we all remember when they tried to run Naruto Shipuden; but unfortunately, it was never that grand.

[@Maceryn]

Fun Fact: Back in like 2013/14 my mom didn’t want me using my name on the internet, so all my online friends knew me as Terra b/c she was my favorite character ever and my best friend already went by Raven lol. Eventually my mom stopped caring so I stopped using Terra as an alias 😬 Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

And then what happened?

[@MauZangetsu]

So your name is Maceryn? That's a cute name

[@az4rel]

Your mom is smart

[@andreistoica2470]

The Doctor regeneration îs also yellow also 10th blow The entire tardis when he regeberated into his 11th incarnation

[@livecoilarchive1458]

I regret not watching Teen Titans more, growing up. I think I really missed out on something special, something on par with Batman: the Animated Series in terms of treating its audience like they're intelligent and mature. But, I did see the entire Terra arc. She was my favorite character on the show, actually! I LOVED her episodes, and yeah, I remember the last episode really making me feel empty inside after. For a Cartoon Network show, this was quite disarming and memorable. Great stuff which still holds up today. Thanks for the nostalgia, Jordan!

[@Br1on1cle]

Two questions. Was the monster in "Things Change" a manifestation of Terra's powers? Also, as a school girl, where was she living? Does she have a family? How does she have money to buy food?

[@seithmyers6757]

This always confused the hell out of me she told beast boy that she was allergic to her favorite food and as the school girl she makes no sense.

[@Pottedplantofdeath]

The monster is what I have more of an interest in here. Terra's story is not particularly happy, and this is about as well as it can end. The monster though needed one or two more episodes, and then a series finale.

[@edra2005]

I think Slade made arrangements for Terra to lose her memories and resume a normal life Probably so he could torment beast boy over his false obsession

[@andreistoica2470]

She kinda reminds of the Doctor from Doctor Who who both are blondes and are Saggitarius ed his time în academy was very poor în javing low level în Prydonian Academy

[@andreistoica2470]

His childhood friend was The Master

[@Madarauchiha86]

The title of the last episode being things change is kinda ironic. We’re all here much older watching something from our childhood/past and i’m just thinking now to myself things really do change. Time flies and these shows bring my nostalgia intensely. We watched the last episode as kids not knowing our lives were changing as well

[@GoonersVillains]

Well said !

[@BourbonBurger]

In a way the ending of this show ended perfectly. “Things change”. All of the messages and mood of the last episode is like life. Not every ending is happy, and you have to accept that things don’t get better, just different.

[@endlessbagel4026]

While I think the message for the last episode in context to beast boy is good (the message of moving on) I think its a poor place to end terras character. Her entire run on the show has been her running away for her loved ones. Having her reject her past and everyone she ever cared for is a poor place to end it her story imo.

[@TeddyDuffle]

I have to disagree! Terra was never cut out to be a hero, and has so much guilt attached to her life as a villain. Just because someone has powers doesn't necessarily mean they belong in the hero world, and Terra always craved normality. Her ending is perfect for her, because she finds middle ground by being neither a hero nor a villain, but just another nameless face amongst the public. She's detached herself from her past, and we see that she is getting an education, has friends, and is happy. It's only when Beast Boy shows up that she becomes irate again, because he reminds her of everything she wants to forget. She was immensely toxic to everyone she cared about and a fresh start is the best outcome for her, which is what she got. :)

[@gtf234]

I don't quite agree it's a poor ending for it because from her debut she was seeking some sort of normalcy and being a hero quickly blew up as not being a viable option for what she sought. But at the very least it's a significantly different take on Tara Markov and wasn't just a straight animated conversion of the Judas Contract (we eventually got nearly a decade later in 2017 but that's neither here nor there for this discussion). Here she is a somewhat more tragic character compared to her original depiction as a hateful sociopath who just wants to watch the world burn for fun. She was out to destroy the Titans because she vehemently rejected what they stood for: defending the weak instead of slaughtering them as inferiors. To the point where she was actually more bloodthirsty than Deathstroke the Terminator was, since the he was almost entirely driven by a desire for vengeance as a grieving father against the Titans AND the HIVE for the death of his eldest son. By the by that was also a thing I always thought was odd- they did use Jericho, but never went into him being Deathstroke's other son despite how prominent of a villain he was What I think is interesting is how revamping the Judas Contract and a few other tweaks makes everything so much more, soft, on Beast Boy. Garfield in the New Teen Titans was a very broken young man hiding it behind a fun and playful facade; he had crippling survivor's guilt as the only survivor of the Doom Patrol's original finale. And Terra really cruelly preyed on him- he was so haunted by her manipulations and betrayal that he didn't finally accept the truth- that she was always evil and not somebody who could be saved (not that she even wanted to be) and wasn't the product of the Terminator- until Blackest Night , 25 years later, when her corpse came back and tried to run him through that emotional ringer all over again. But in TTA, the Doom Patrol is still alive and Terra genuinely liked him

[@WaterKirby1994]

Schoolgirl Terra is the best Terra! This is who she wanted to be & she's happier for it!

[@seithmyers6757]

So true my lord didn't she learn nothing?! Her powers will always be there and now she's going to harm not just a small few but a school of at least one hundred. It made me so pissed as it felt like someone spat on the character rather than respected her. She's a B to Beast Boy and for sure the start of a villain as her clothes are certainly not hers meaning she stole. Her and Slades words also are top level gas's lighting. You can't expect me to believe that is her telling the truth about her likes when Beast Boy was her date and long time friend, used them and she said the opposite. Also notice how Slade prayed on this and said she doesn't want to remember you. To do that is the ultimate insult as she once loved him and he loved her. It also is gas's lighting to the max as now Beast Boy will blame himself but also wonder if the entire relationship and friendship was in his head. This second guessing leaves you lonely sad and where you don't trust your mind at all. My girlfriend had such happen to her. It crushed her and made her hate what she deemed her best features as well as question her own intelligence.

[@ChristianSedaTalks]

I actually think it’s very realistic. My head canon is that she knows she’s Terra but she would rather let go of the past and leave the trauma behind. Unfortunately that means leaving beastboy behind as well.. It’s something beastboy needs to respect at the end of the day.

[@Rvbelious]

This ending made me realize nothing stays the same in life people change as you get older in life.

[@Jose-Luis.Garnica-Sanchez]

This gave me a perspective on the ending. Probably bc as a kid it was just confusing, but now it hits me in different ways as it relates to how life is sometimes

[@alexhopkinz9871]

Also, after rewatching the series, I feel like Beast Boy was actually the main character of Teen Titans. It seemed like there were more episodes revolving around him than any other character, Each character pretty much had a season centered around them. Robin was season 1, Terra was season 2, Cyborg season 3, Raven season 4, and Beast Boy season 5. Really the whole Terra arch was centered around Terra and Beast Boy so he is the only character who had two seasons about his character development. And the fact that the last episode featured none of the other Titans and ended the way it did kinda confirms my theory.

[@frankchen4229]

@SupremeEgyptianGodsMan That's an idol in the pfp..

[@kinghashbrown7998]

the fact this ending is still talked about to this day just shows how impactful this ending was

[@unityedits3722]

While I've accepted that the original series and Go! both have their own strengths and weaknesses, and different crowds that they cater to, this will always be the superior series for me

[@a-s-greig]

As the rare Go! fan in the room I completely respect that opinion of the differences in the series, and I'm sorry for all the toes it stepped on.

[@zaphenath5915]

I cried so hard at the last episode. Such a great show. I feel like the writers knew the show wasn't going to get the time it deserved and wanted to let us know the characters would change but that it would be alright. I think they knew we'd have a hard time letting these great characters go and they wanted to help us accept that. It matched the tone of the show as a whole and was a great way to end a series that ended too soon.

[@midoriya-shonen]

Wow, the fact that I don't remember Slade was in the episode at all really says something about how powerful Terra's reappearance was. He terrified me as a child, but I also got so hyped every time he was on screen. Episodes like Haunted were my favorite of the series. But is post-death reappearance here completely went over my head because of Terra. What a monument to this show's writing!

[@mutantsandmemes]

Love your pfp of best boy (wonder) 👀

[@mg682]

and that ending applies today. i miss my childhood. the mall, television, no phones, the infancy of the internet, feeling happy. sadly, things soured into where we r today, and my life changed on a personal level. it hurts a lot, especially when having to accept what is. this episode still hurts to this day, but i've grown to highly respect it, cuz it was trying to deliver a message to me

[@garrettSlingerland]

Hands down my favorite aspect of this show was the fact that you could pick just about anyone and view them as the "main character" and it still works. Like... Cyborg had an entire story with a beginning, middle and end, same with starfire, and Raven, and Robin ties them all together in the perfect way. I sincerely miss this show and WISH they would bring it back.... I've given Go so many chances and it still just feels like a "look how they've massacred my son" version of the original.

[@victoriavvc]

I actually saw Trouble in Tokyo before the last episode, so to me it did kinda wrap everything up, but I was really sad about it. I didn't think the girl would actually be Terra though, I figured she was just a different girl that looked like her, she looked younger and shorter than Beastboy.

[@charlottewalnut3118]

That doesn’t really make sense either after all the person she was talking to would know if they had never met her after all he has superhuman senses like a like an animal so he would be able to pick up on the cues of her scent and her voice and even the ultraviolet lines on her skin being different

[@bobafett4265]

Honestly the original Teen Titans series deserved better, it's sad WB is so full of themselves that they refused to take on Teen Titans Season 6, I would be happy to finally see it complete though, much like many shows that remain incomplete seeing their stories finally finished and such is always a blessing in my eyes.

[@WaterKirby1994]

Yes we need more School Girl Terra & to find out what that thing was!

[@seithmyers6757]

@@WaterKirby1994 and see if that is even really Terra because no way is she really her and if so mind control to keep Beast Boy second guessing making him liable to be bent into an apprentice. I mean it makes perfect sense for him to start making Beast Boy into an apprentice as a way to hurt Robin and get revenge on the two who caused his death.

[@305Independent]

Feel like Terra was brought back when Raven reversed Trigon's power that turned the world's population to stone.

[@nekoprankster2184]

When I used to record and watch Teen Titans when it had already ended and it was in syndication on Boomerang, I always assumed the Trigon arc was the series finale. Although the "Things Change" episode always confused me since it just ended. With no resolution to Terra, is what I thought back then. I think now I fully get what it all meant, but I think I also understand why younger me was always so confused and unsatisfied when the next episode after that would just be the beginning of the series again.

[@Galaxy-MusicX]

Despite the way the show ended, I definitely consider it as one of the greatest cartoons of all time.

[@mutantsandmemes]

God I miss this show...you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the show not talking down to you and just taking you on this journey with the characters struggles and triumphs as they balance life as a teenager and a superhero. I really wish they'd carried on so we could have explored Robin's arc (aka, Dick Grayson) but at least the comics gave us a little insight on Batman's POV, and the TV show 'The Batman' even includes a young Teen Titans Robin. But alas, Young Justice will have to do...

[@mrroboshadow]

Theres just some details that bug me slightly....why did Slade care enough to deny responsibility and tell Beast Boy "she doesnt want to see you anymore"? This isnt the Slade from the comics, where he sometimes does good, he's evil. So why didnt he take the chance to torture Beast Boy and taunt him? That or just doing nothing seems like the more "in character" actions for him Also that line "she looks happy". I'm not denying she isnt, but whats her life even like? I mean she woke up one day in a cave, no memories on top of a pedestal.... did she wander the streets? how did she enroll in a school? Is she in a orphanage? does she have foster/adoptive parents? just my thoughts

[@seithmyers6757]

Her powers are going to come out full force and break that school and she will be isolated. She was wrong for pushing Beast Boy away.

[@edra2005]

I think after she was restored to normal she went to slade who offered to erase her memories and made arrangements for her to lead a normal life

[@mrroboshadow]

@@edra2005 and why would he do that? Slade only does good in the comics, in that show he was evil, physically and mentally torturing the characters for funsies

[@edra2005]

@@mrroboshadow to punish beast boy He knows that beast boy will be in anguish over terra not remembering him

[@mrroboshadow]

@@edra2005 it took you 2 month and thats what you came up with? why dont ya take a few more months and maybe you'll find something that actually makes sense

[@geomania8533]

The last episode left us on a cliffhanger. Most of us were so upset that Cartoon network even made a note of this in Teen titans go. And even those titans were shocked that it ended on such a cliffhanger

[@vodsanity4861]

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for introducing me to that comic! This ending has bothered me ever since I saw it when the show ended and never sat quite right with me and finding out about Terra's origin makes things so more clear from her point of view. I'm so glad the creators decided to re-visit that scene in particular and have her brother explain why she was being so stubborn to BeastBoy. After 16 long years my mind can finally be at peace and BeastBoy's heart, along with my own are finally unbroken.

[@malakeSuperior]

I’m just annoyed because each Titian seemed to get a season that had episodes focused on them that were central to the story line, except Starfire. She got some amazing episodes don’t get me wrong but hear me out: Season 1 was Robin’s Obsession with Slade. Season 2 was the introduction of Terra and her arc, Season 3 had a main focus on Cryborg and Brother Blood, Season 4 is about Raven literally being the key to the end of the world, and Season 5 is centered around Beast Boy again with The Doom Patrol and stopping their main antagonist The Brotherhood of Evil while introducing us to new titians. But we never got a season that gave us multiple main storyline focused Starfire episodes. It was a really big missed opportunity in my opinion because she’s a super fun and POWERFUL character. Seeing her stomp out her own arch rival would’ve been amazing. But Starfire is my favorite so maybe I’m bias 😅

[@schemar17]

I wish they did season 6 but TTG will never end

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

I don't think the creators were as invested with her as the other Titans, sad to say.

[@malakeSuperior]

@@GamerSlyRatchet1 yeah I think you’re right ):

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

The wedding episode could have used for an entire arc. So much potential in that one episode.

[@trinityinfinity5356]

I read somewhere that season 6 was going to be her season with the white creature being an alien that knew her or something like that

[@crisc0city]

Mr. Fringe, I gotta say- this is probably the best video I’ve seen by you. You really Took the time to break down everything and it was *fantastic.* Amazing job.

[@shinyespurrz]

I kind of feel like it ended perfect in the sense of we are left as beast boy, attached to someone who’s gone. In one way or another and we continue our lives as normal but with that thought at the back of our heads “what about Terra?”

[@Prizzlesticks]

I always got the vibe she took BB on a date not as a distraction, per se, but rather as a way to ensure he was out of the tower when the attack happened. It felt like her initial rejection came from knowing she was about to put him in harm's way, while her backtracking and inviting him out was her way of trying to keep him safe, however misguided.

[@rita8274]

It's so interesting how differently I see this as an adult. Weirdly enough, I remember crying my heart out when Slade tells her that they'll leave her just like everyone else. I didn't understand why as a teen nor did I see how she fell for his ridiculous words, but now as an adult I do. Just like Tara, I fell for the manipulative words from a person like Slade, I realized that my deepest insecurities were laid in front of me then used and can completely understand now.

[@Capex567]

I may have a answer how terra came back the theory goes that that when raven turned everyone back from stone during her fight with trigon, it also turned terra back.

[@jamboree615]

Yeah, I agree, Trouble in Tokyo was a great way movie, but it could have been inserted anywhere into the series. Robin and Starfire's story line was cute, but we all knew they would eventually get together. Beast Boy and Terra's storyline was so much more intense and heart-wrenching, we did not know where it would end up. Not seeing the two of them end up together was sad. Seeing Beast Boy run back to his duties and leave Terra behind left us knowing the Teen Titans would still be superheroes together. But we also knew that Beast Boy was leaving his heart behind him. The Teen Titans would always be missing one person from their team because Terra was not there.

[@sushidashi6152]

This was one of the shows that gave me the biggest impact growing up. Thank you for this video Jordan!

[@JordanFringe94]

Thanks for watching!

[@grinreaperoftrolls7528]

Thank you for the comic book closure. I grew up having the first two seasons on dvd and binged the series online countless times. The nostalgia and good storytelling hit SO HARD. It’s in my top favorite shows.

[@Guacamoc]

This broke me for a long time because I couldn’t accept that things changed. In my own life too with a 3 year relationship ending and my mom passing. But they do. And sometimes, they are just a memory.

[@BlueBomberTurbo]

Teen Titans is probably my favorite piece of western animation. Great animation (for the time), great storytelling, great characters, great soundtrack, great action. It rarely let me down. Including the ending. It's a 100% fit for the series, even if it (potentially) wasn't meant to be. Season 5 was Beast Boy's arc, starting with Doom Patrol and ending with tying up his relationship with Terra that was previously cut short. Not only that, but it's also a good way to "end" a superhero show. There will always be a threat, new or old, to take down. The return of Slade, with the new creature, gives us both. And being Beast Boy's arc, letting Terra go because it's better for her shows a growth in both his character and maturity. Not 100% positive, but through his personality and actions, Beast Boy seemed to be the youngest of the Titans. Things may change, but the Titans will always be the Titans, ready to save the city no matter what, and this episode displays that perfectly. Yes, more episodes would be great, though the writing and casting of season 5 was weak compared to the rest. If the show could return to its greatness of seasons 1-4, I'd be all in. But if it peaked then and was on the decline starting with season 5, I'm glad it ended then and there, when it still shone brightly.

[@Kattlarv]

I can say on a fluff note: My fav AU theory is that during the "control your powers" speech. They manage to prevent her from leaving. And she has a "Oh... right..." moment. Based on that 1: She is openly stated as a huge TT fan. Meaning: She *would* know facts about them. 2: With that: remember that Robin is the "son" of the WORLDS GREATEST DETECTIVE xD Whom: She openly demonstrated her powers in front of. On other notes: I have greatly enjoyed Terra in Young Justice. Even if the rest of the show is a very... mixed bag.

[@alucardozaki]

Not gonna lie the ending to teen Titans left me wanting more also the scene with beast boy hurt my heart bad

[@ArkhamWasTaken]

my first video ive ever seen of you and i genuinely love all your side comments and bits. they're not overwhelming in any way and don't really take away or add on too much to the video's plot, they're just comedic reliefs and it makes it feel like im watching a cartoon again speaking of a cartoon video. i can see you do your videos really well, and your humor is great! i laughed at the keemstar thing surprisingly, 10/10.

[@ChaosChanneler]

From what I think happened, Terra used up all of her remaining power's to stop the volcano and turned to stone as a result, thus saving everyone and becoming a hero in the end. But when Trigon turned everyone to stone and then when the spell was reversed, Terra got to live life a second time as a normal human girl because she no longer had her powers after "sacrificing them" to save the town. The ending was one I have thought about from time to time after I first watched it when it aired all those years ago, kind of shows how good the storytelling was in this show.

[@rosemimic]

This is one of my favorite shows of all time and I will always be upset with the way it ended.

[@DarrellThody]

At least you got closure. My fave was Megas XLR and that was 2 seasons and no DVD release.

[@yodaddyrc1220]

@@DarrellThody What sucks about that is the show was written off for taxes so they legally can’t even bring it back.

[@tokyodeathghoul2313]

Teen Titans being canceled to allow the creation of Teen Titans Go was a mistake by DC so bad that it makes Batman VS Superman look like Avengers Endgame.

[@illicitburn9386]

The show wasnt cancelled for TTGo the show was canceled do to low ratings, toys not selling and the stupid 65 episode bull

[@herousyuinn7923]

@@illicitburn9386 usually toys not being sold as much

[@gtf234]

The show wasn't cancelled for Go, GO was 7 years later. TTA ended in 2006; Go began in 2013. Go happened because the DC Nation web shorts were popular.

[@gtf234]

@@herousyuinn7923 David Slack, the show's producer insinuated Mattel wanted the show dead. They were becoming Cartoon Network's master toy licensee and TTA's toy deal was controlled by Bandai.

[@aeroga2383]

TTG is probably the funniest show CN has ever concocted. Keep up

[@shelt370]

This was one of the saddest storylines. Especially at the end when she couldn’t remember him. I miss this show so much 🥺

[@chidivids2005]

I've never seen this show before. But just your narration of the storytelling alone makes it clear to me the heart and talent poured into it

[@Nordic1337]

I always liked Slade as a villain. He always hung out in the shadows, always just out of the Titans' reach and kind of won in the end. And poor Terra 😢

[@AstroTom]

I miss this show. It had some of the best writing and atmosphere of any show I grew up with!

[@777Rowen]

Fantastic discussion. I believe this is Terra who was brought back when Raven defeated Trigon and cleansed the world. In healing the world and fixing everything, everything was reborn including Terra. That’s why she’s not the same person anymore.

[@beatofromuminekorealnotcli4574]

people hating on terra is always SO uncomfortable to me because she is *very* accurate to a lot of messed up kids i knew, especially ones with similarly screwed up relationships with older men like slade. it's really disturbing to see people villainize and blame her for being exploited by an abusive creepy old guy, just like the girls i knew were dismissed and demonized. it really shows that while there is a clear distinction between fiction and reality, the way that *you* react to fiction still says a lot about you and how you'd react to a similar situation in real life.

[@DaDualityofMan]

Tbh I still don't like Terra because of what she did, but I do really agree with your last line, even if it's not real your reaction to it reflects off of u.

[@nyahcat1379]

Tbf most of the kids hating on her were kids who didn't understand what was happening to her (me included) and hated her solely for the things she did

[@skydragonslayer9820]

There is also the fact that Robin, a person who definitely had training, also struggled with slade's mind games and manipulation. This should leave no one surprised that Terra, a young insecure girl with no training,fell victim to his manipulation and mind games.

[@inplane9970]

I definitely empathized with Terra in that way. Though I would never know how it feels to be manipulated by older people, I instantly understood why Terra acted the way she did. It's unfortunate too because people are quick to blame things on the younger generations, thinking age = right to authority. Terra's ending is poetic because she's finally free to do what she wants with no one telling her what to do.

[@pimenjoyer.221]

Both are to blame.

[@DaSkittlzman]

There will always be a place in my heart for the original Teen Titans

[@FreshGuava161]

Is it me or cartoons back in the days used to be far more compelling. I am literally an adult now and kind of felt an urge to rewatch the show. It's seems screenwriters used to have a lot of fun writing those too.

[@jeffwolcott7815]

I read the writers wanted Terra to play a more prominent role in season 2 aside from the episodes about her. Would have really helped make the feeling more powerful for the fans. I do wish for a season 6. The last episode left me with too many questions to feel like a proper series ending.

[@skr33tch]

I’m so lost for words, I’ve only watched a couple of your videos but you are an absolutely fantasy content creator. I actually stopped for a second and pause the video to talk to myself about what a incredible job you did with this video. You’re so articulate and engaging with ease. Thank you for a brilliantly executed 28 minutes. You’ve earned a subscriber.

[@jackpostkun4372]

i wish the transitions were more like they are on tv, a slow fade away. it would make sense since you transition into an old school tv mid card thingy. the glitchy transition is very jarring. just some thoughts ive been having! keep up the great work

[@Allplussomeminus]

Those little bits right before the ads brought back the feeling of watching traditional TV... Back when I was younger. I felt the inkling of wanting to cry; cry from the feelings and memories.

[@lunac24]

I kinda thought of the ending with beast boy leaving terra to live a normal life was a good way to end it. Beast Boy seemed to have an attachment issue since he didn't want to be abandoned like he was by his last team. He went after Terra like he wanted others to go after him. The issue was that Terra didn't want that. He had to learn that you can care about someone and let them go.

[@ForeverZonic]

Loved the video! I have such fond memories of watching the original show, but I had no idea that this episode was how it actually ended. I still hold out hope that maybe we get something from Cartoon Network one day to continue the series, but I'll still love the original.

[@90snetworkproductions79]

Not only was this show a masterclass of story telling and plot, it resonated with so many of us who were teenagers back then, treating us as adults, as equals, not children. On another note, when it comes to Terra's "amnesia," there's two different possibilities, the writers literally gave us a clue in the title, "Things Change." Either she A.) literally forgot everything and everyone she had been around and went on living a normal life after Raven's white robed form freed everyone on Earth from Trigon's petrification power, or B.) Her memories and powers were unaffected, but due to the severe trauma of hurting the ones closest to her more than once, she chose to reject everything and everyone that she used to know. After undergoing severe physical and psychological trauma, no one is ever the same as they were before. She'd be totally deceiving BB and the TT, but sometimes things really do change, and are simply too much to handle. By being a hero she'd sacrifice being able to live an ordinary life around ordinary people. Being a hero sounds great on paper, but the responsibility that goes with it isn't for everyone. She totally has the right to make that decision, (although repeatedly lying to someone she knew had serious feelings about her is shitty no matter how you slice it,) at least she'd get to live her life how she wants, on her terms, rather than having the crushing weight of being a hero weighing down her consciousness. And besides, metahumans were popping up everywhere, and not too long after this, the Justice League was formed, having chapters all across the world, by then the Teen Titans weren't even teens anymore, and there really was no need for them. There were plenty of more suitable people to be heroes than Terra, and to me that's an end to a show I can totally live with, not the one we were given. I'll never forget this show....

[@jonnygraham2372]

I like both iterations of teen titans. It took me awhile, I won’t lie.. I just can’t help but feel that my tie to the Teen Titans goes deeper than mere nostalgia. It was the gold standard for TV shows that really remind me that we lived in the golden age of America in the 2000’s. This is what we lived for after school, an experience we had alone, but we all share today.

[@emmanuelweinman9673]

Absolutely love this video. Teen Titans was a childhood favorite of mine and when it ended like that I was definitely heartbroken. Glad you wrapped everything up with the comic. Tera was one of my favorite characters, too.

[@Bate.v19]

Gotta love the fact that the entire time Terra was with slade, her hair covered one of her eyes. Only fixing it after she talked to beast boy