FROGGE but with Þ pronounced correctly

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@jannik-x
@jannik-x 3 жыл бұрын
I am disgruntled to learn that not every article in the middle english wikipedia opens by revealing the number of leggys.
@dimitrimolotovvyacheslav4604
@dimitrimolotovvyacheslav4604 3 жыл бұрын
Im disappointed that not every article ends with "if its not aten"
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
What, "a catt is called a kittoun if it than ne be nought aten"?
@dimitrimolotovvyacheslav4604
@dimitrimolotovvyacheslav4604 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor perfect
@BethAnnMayberry
@BethAnnMayberry 3 жыл бұрын
I know. I want to yell at them, "okay, but HOW MANY LEGGIES DOES IT HAVE?!"
@laamonftiboren4236
@laamonftiboren4236 3 жыл бұрын
I solemnly vow to change all of them to specify leggys number posthaste.
@LukeCorreia
@LukeCorreia 4 жыл бұрын
i have carried this burden since february. thank you for relieving me of it
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
Why thank you, for watching my video! I really appreciate feedback and a retweet from the OG!
@weirdcelebass
@weirdcelebass 4 жыл бұрын
Please remake it.
@Oatmeal_Mann
@Oatmeal_Mann 3 жыл бұрын
Your video is really funny.
@solarprogeny6736
@solarprogeny6736 3 жыл бұрын
Luke you literally made videos 8 months ago where you pronounced the thorn correctly, and then recently you started pronouncing it as a P again. WHY
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
It's part of his brand now innit
@RoryRose_
@RoryRose_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love how important the amount of legs it has are, and how it has to specify that it won't grow up if it's eaten.
@EsplodingBomb
@EsplodingBomb 3 жыл бұрын
If it is killed it will die.
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
If it's killed it won't grow up 🤯
@rodrigodias7147
@rodrigodias7147 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, the entry just says that it will grow up if not eaten. It doesn't specify what happens if it is eaten.
@DragonWinter36
@DragonWinter36 3 жыл бұрын
Frogs die when they are killed.
@shaunyap4090
@shaunyap4090 3 жыл бұрын
it would be pretty horrifying if it continued to grow up after being eaten
@fatcerberus
@fatcerberus 3 жыл бұрын
The best part about the wiki page is that they felt the need to note that the tadpole grows up to be a frog _only if it doesn’t get eaten in the meantime_
@Atylonisus
@Atylonisus Жыл бұрын
Not to be confused with tadpoles which leave behind ghostly apparitions of frogs upon their consumption, common mistake
@Holygiant
@Holygiant Жыл бұрын
@@Atylonisus pikmin
@OatmealTheCrazy
@OatmealTheCrazy Жыл бұрын
​@@Holygiant same thought lol
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 Жыл бұрын
The kitten grows up to be a cat, if it doesn't get eaten in the meantime.
@fatcerberus
@fatcerberus Жыл бұрын
@@bbgun061 Please do not the cat.
@PocketDeerBoy
@PocketDeerBoy Жыл бұрын
i'm glad they're making wikipedia more accessible to the very niche audience of medieval time travelers who just so happen to know how to read, which isn't most of them.
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
Sad
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind Жыл бұрын
Don't be fooled by the literacy statistics of that time. Illiterate meant not being able to read and write Latin. In that time period, almost all people, even if not fluent readers, at least knew their alphabet well enough to read by sounding out letters. That's why bible translations were such a big thing. People could now read it themselves---if the difference would just have been "a priest translating it for them" vs "a priest reading it out loud for them", it wouldn't have mattered at all.
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 Жыл бұрын
Academics would have tried time travel right away
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 Жыл бұрын
I know want to hear articles that are actually useful for medieval time travelers. For example about the smartphone or the internet. Because I assume most of them already know what a dogge, catt and frogge is.
@thehypest6118
@thehypest6118 Жыл бұрын
A lot of medieval England could read, it was one of the most literate countries of the time thanks to various church reforms and the instigating efforts of Alfred the Great
@stuckonaslide
@stuckonaslide 3 жыл бұрын
a medieval peasant busts down your door holding a content looking frog "A FROGGE BIÞ A SMALL BEASTE WIÞ FOURE LEGGYS-"
@britannic124
@britannic124 3 жыл бұрын
USE CAPITAL THORN
@soupsoup4245
@soupsoup4245 3 жыл бұрын
Can I join them and also hold small content frogs while yelling at people
@stuckonaslide
@stuckonaslide 3 жыл бұрын
@@britannic124 wait yeah now its annoying me ill change it
@walkerx1813
@walkerx1813 3 жыл бұрын
@@britannic124 Capital: Þ Lowercase: þ
@britannic124
@britannic124 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuckonaslide XD
@saucerr3691
@saucerr3691 4 жыл бұрын
The sequel to this video must be bad fan fiction read in Middle English.
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
I am not opposed.
@j.yossarian6852
@j.yossarian6852 3 жыл бұрын
Navy Seals Copypasta!
@saucerr3691
@saucerr3691 3 жыл бұрын
@@j.yossarian6852 He has already done this.
@j.yossarian6852
@j.yossarian6852 3 жыл бұрын
@@saucerr3691 LETS GO
@mars-nf9cj
@mars-nf9cj 3 жыл бұрын
Specifically my eternal
@ArtificialDjDAGX
@ArtificialDjDAGX 4 жыл бұрын
When pronouncing correctly, you didn't mention that frogs can be yelowe.
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
So I didn't. *Schame uppon min heed*
@ArtificialDjDAGX
@ArtificialDjDAGX 4 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor it's ok! To err is to be human!
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
And to forgive is divine good sir or madam
@_blank-_
@_blank-_ 3 жыл бұрын
Or gae
@SunsetCompass
@SunsetCompass 3 жыл бұрын
No no you guys, they didn't have the yellow color on the Middle Ages, that's the only explanation
@AissurDrol
@AissurDrol 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why this is recommended to me, but I do like the line: "A tadpole is a small beast with no leggies."
@sauerkrautlanguage
@sauerkrautlanguage 3 жыл бұрын
I just love how the articles are written In such a weird and unusual way because it's how texts from the period read
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
I think it has a lot to do with time being precious because everything was written by hand at the time. This leads to some very simple sentences, rather than the more convoluted constructions we avail ourselves of.
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 Жыл бұрын
@@Seetorand also the writing materials were expensive
@unitariansavage8513
@unitariansavage8513 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good video, but there's just something special about listening to an overly angry scotsman yell "LONGIES AND GUILLES BOOPY"
@lynnstevenson11
@lynnstevenson11 Жыл бұрын
aye, totally agree....scottish one just brill..this guy done pretty good two...great how similar our languages are
@wherefancytakesme
@wherefancytakesme Жыл бұрын
It did admittedly make me crack up when he pronounced it "guy-lls".
@tymoteuszkosinski5352
@tymoteuszkosinski5352 3 жыл бұрын
Jokes aside, it's fascinating how it sounds so familiar yet strange. Also some german mixed in
@3173_Delta
@3173_Delta 3 жыл бұрын
That's because English is a part of germanic languages family. Today it sound the way it sounds due to the French colonies - basically to be fancy you had to speak like the French, which was softer than the original English, the germanic way of speaking meant peasants. It's easily demonstrated by how animals and their respective meats are called - the names of animals were for farmers that took care of them, and the names of meat were for aristocracy that were eating them. For example "cow" comes from old English (germanic roots) "cū", but "beef" comes from old French (Latin roots) "boef". Of course aristocracy probably used old French names for animals too if they were to talk about it, but farmers used it far more often so it stuck to today. (I may have used some words historically inaccurate like peasants or aristocracy but you get the point)
@ajoajoajoaj
@ajoajoajoaj 3 жыл бұрын
@@3173_Delta These articles were written in Middle English though which was already substantially Gallicized in the way you describe. The major difference in Modern English, aside from the exponential increase in French, Latin and other loanwords, is the Great Vowel Shift, which although more thorough and revolutionary than that affecting any other Germanic language (including even English's closest relative, Scots), still has its parallels in said languages, particularly High German in which hûs becomes Haus and îs becomes Eis, essentially identical in pronunciation to their respective modern English equivalents house and ice. So the phonological changes have not so much to do with French influence than normal changes within Germanic languages in general, though these happened to be carried out in English far more radically than the others.
@conorwall8
@conorwall8 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds very Scandinavian to me
@AeroTheVaporeon
@AeroTheVaporeon Жыл бұрын
to me it sounds like english mixed with dutch
@Mara_1337
@Mara_1337 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, as a german and english speaker, I understood literally everything with such a matter-of-factness that I first thought "wdym you gonna translate it now?" I still see similarities between eng and ger to this day, especially when taking dialects into account. Really cool
@artifex2.080
@artifex2.080 3 жыл бұрын
As a dutch speaker it feels so germanic that it's really understandable
@mostlyghostly6615
@mostlyghostly6615 3 жыл бұрын
As an American, this is very easy to understand. Maybe we should go back.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 3 жыл бұрын
@@mostlyghostly6615 It'd certainly be more consistent
@ianmoseley9910
@ianmoseley9910 3 жыл бұрын
English is considered to be in a sub-group of the West German languages with the Netherlands minority language Frisian the only other member of the sub-group.
@artifex2.080
@artifex2.080 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianmoseley9910 yeah but nobody actually likes frisian. Its just the fact that the oldest dutch text (mainly known as "hebban olla vogela") could also be old english, just shows how close the two languages are.
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 3 жыл бұрын
@@mostlyghostly6615 Reject Modern English. Return to frogge
@XD-ot1fy
@XD-ot1fy 3 жыл бұрын
The comments: wait, you didn't pronounce the "yelowe" Me: nah, the yelowe is silent
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yelowe
@californium-2526
@californium-2526 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor Yelowe (chemistry) is bad!
@Wyi-the-rogue
@Wyi-the-rogue Жыл бұрын
EXPLOSIONS AND FIRE FUK YEA
@jankbunky4279
@jankbunky4279 3 жыл бұрын
To me as a Dutch person, it's pretty odd to see how close this is to an English-Dutch amalgamation.
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
English used to wear its germanic roots more proudly, goes to show
@Woistwahrheit
@Woistwahrheit Жыл бұрын
Ohoho wait till you hear afrikaans
@dicksdiggers
@dicksdiggers Жыл бұрын
@@Woistwahrheit Don't worry, most of us know already. I like your language a lot, there is beauty in its simplicity. The grammar also (mostly) makes more sense than modern Dutch. Afrikaans is actually closer to what Dutch used to sound like.
@ACEsParkJunheeWreckedMeHard
@ACEsParkJunheeWreckedMeHard Жыл бұрын
I thought this sounds like a German who sucks in English xDD
@paulbarbat1926
@paulbarbat1926 Жыл бұрын
Anglos and Saxons were inhabitants of the modern south Denmark, north-western Germany and north Netherlands, so it tracks
@SorisMusic
@SorisMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thorns are the best letter to have become extinct in the English language. We need to bring them back
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Don't disagree
@kenetickups6146
@kenetickups6146 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Ð
@havokmusicinc
@havokmusicinc 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, thorns are great. English is far too complicated with its many multi-letter phonemes and using characters like thorn or the greek theta would simplify things greatly. Of course English isn't the only language with this issue; Spanish LL (consonant Y sound) may as well be a different character as well
@kenetickups6146
@kenetickups6146 3 жыл бұрын
Havok What we really need is a one letter one sound alphabet
@cyrusmarikitph
@cyrusmarikitph 3 жыл бұрын
Do þey speak some-ın wiþ pipol on Wikipedia? I added dotless "i" for the same as the Turkish one. Like "ın" (one), "phın" (phone), cın (cone), and "tı" (two).
@loffeine3454
@loffeine3454 3 жыл бұрын
þis is an underappreciated video, i hope þe algoryþm pics you up
@walkingsophie
@walkingsophie 3 жыл бұрын
Only the third use is correct here, the other two should be eth (ð)
@fgvcosmic6752
@fgvcosmic6752 3 жыл бұрын
Thorn Makes a soft th sound (thin, thanks, wrath etc.) You need Eth (which looks like đ but curved) which makes the th sound in "the, that, this, with" etc
@bioniclegoblin6495
@bioniclegoblin6495 3 жыл бұрын
@@walkingsophie The two letters weren't used that systematically in English. Only in Icelandic, as far as I know.
@loffeine3454
@loffeine3454 3 жыл бұрын
listen if my comment wasn't hearted i'd edit it to appease the eldrich grammarnazis (technically spellingnazis i suppose). But it IS hearted so... *ð, whenever appropriate. (also none of y'all bothered to correct my spelling of "picks you up". for shame.)
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 3 жыл бұрын
well u want a dialogue from old barn in gothic alaric or old norse ultima thule? whatever u want archaic conlang proto
@Vilverna
@Vilverna 4 жыл бұрын
Ah it's called a "thorn". I wish I had known that when I commented
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
Now you do, my friend. I'm going to be live in like 45 minutes by the way, if you wanna hang out
@Vilverna
@Vilverna 4 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor sure. I'll keep an eye out for your livestream and hop in :)
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vilverna 22 minutes left.
@wellshit9489
@wellshit9489 3 жыл бұрын
Þ
@LuckySketches
@LuckySketches 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you use it it's called a þorn.
@kingtomhearts3d421
@kingtomhearts3d421 3 жыл бұрын
Being a german/english bilingual I was able to understand basically anything that was said in middle english and my mind is blown
@KazBodnar
@KazBodnar Жыл бұрын
because you can speak english
@dex6316
@dex6316 Жыл бұрын
@@KazBodnarthe older English is, the more Germanic it is. It is actually easier to understand Old English while knowing German than it is while knowing English. Middle English had the French influences properly mixed in, so knowing English allows for easier understanding than knowing German. Knowing German helps with understanding some of the weird pronunciation and word usage of Middle English.
@hotaruishere2133
@hotaruishere2133 Жыл бұрын
As someone who knows both languages as well, it was truly an uncanny experience 😂😂
@Volundur9567
@Volundur9567 Жыл бұрын
Same. Add to that Icelandic.
@canislupus4655
@canislupus4655 Жыл бұрын
I felt the same listening to this haha. It’s so odd that it seems like it’s mostly the verbs that stand out as Germanic.
@NekuZX
@NekuZX Жыл бұрын
Listening to Middle English while only knowing modern English feels exactly the same as listening to Potuguese while only knowing Spanish. You can pick up a few words, extrapolate the meaning of a few unknown words, and get the general gist of what it's being said, but not completely understand it. For reference: I am Spanish/English bilingual. In that order.
@allanrichardson1468
@allanrichardson1468 Жыл бұрын
To me, an English speaker who has some partial understanding of Spanish, Portuguese, with its nasal vowels, sounds like Spanish with a French accent.
@Rolando_Cueva
@Rolando_Cueva Жыл бұрын
Como así? El português es facilisimo de leer, entiendo casi todo. Tú no?
@theposhbarbarian6472
@theposhbarbarian6472 4 жыл бұрын
Damn seetor, your pronunciation of middle english is so pleasing to listen to
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you ever so much
@domvader100
@domvader100 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love Middle English spelling, so phonetic, so poetic, so normal
@sylamy7457
@sylamy7457 3 жыл бұрын
How is phonetic even an attribute when every vocal sound to exist is phonetic? That makes no sense, unless I'm missing something.
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Phonetic spelling is a term applied to languages where every phoneme has one way of being spelled. The most famous example is Korean.
@sylamy7457
@sylamy7457 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor I kinda know that, but I wasn't sure if "so phonetic" was correct way of putting it, but I understand better now. Thanks, and I enjoy your interest in Linguistics!
@jumpvelocity3953
@jumpvelocity3953 Жыл бұрын
Middle English was already significantly fucked by the Norman Conquest. It’s still not very phonetically consistent as a lot of “purer” languages are.
@brodftw
@brodftw 3 жыл бұрын
Am just imagining little cats named Swiftpawe and Greyemaulkin running about the village back in the day 😭
@warriorcatskid003
@warriorcatskid003 3 жыл бұрын
Swiftpawe is giving me Warriors phase flashbacks I can’t
@aquamarinerose5405
@aquamarinerose5405 3 жыл бұрын
Awwwww
@lostotter1956
@lostotter1956 3 жыл бұрын
@@warriorcatskid003 I wanna get lost in that series again🥰
@crypticcorvid
@crypticcorvid 3 жыл бұрын
@@lostotter1956 The fandom still seems to be strong, lol. Same for Wings of Fire.
@jacobpowers352
@jacobpowers352 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh the cat entry do be taking us mad far back. The old english word “deor” (in housedeeres for the cat entry) is now used as deer in modern english, but it meant animal in old english, and you now find it in other germanic languages as animal too, peculiar that you can find different periods of middle english in these entries.
@ekathe85
@ekathe85 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Norwegian "dyr" and German "tier". I believe "apple" (or "epel", or "eple", or however it was spelt) was also any fruit at some point before referring specifically to Malus Domestica.
@saarl99
@saarl99 3 жыл бұрын
Someone else might have pointed this out already, buy I noticed you sometimes pronounce "u" in words like "dyuers" or "haue" as if it were a vowel, where it should be pronounced as /v/ (I think). You might already know this, but during the Middle English period, the letters u and v weren't distinguished based on sound like they are today. Rather, they could both stand for either the /u/ or /v/ sounds, and the choice of using one or the other was based on the position within the word. At the beginning of a word, you would write v, and in the middle of a word you would write u. So "under" would be "vnder", and "have" is "haue". In uppercase, though, only V was used, and U wasn't a thing yet.
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
it has been pointed out to me. And I was aware, it just slipped my mind when I was recording
@Greywander87
@Greywander87 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1611 edition King James Bible and I've noticed the same thing. U and V were once the same letter (hence why W is called "double-u"). What's interesting is that once you get used to it, it's usually pretty easy to figure out if it's supposed to be a U or a V. Usually you can just look to see if it's surrounded by consonants or vowels, and it's probably the other one (i.e. if it's flanked by consonants, it's probably a vowel). I and J also used to be the same letter. I actually can't remember if my 1611 KJV bible uses J at all, but I definitely remember seeing a lot of Is taking the places of Js.
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 3 жыл бұрын
@@Greywander87 Iovem my favorite
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind Жыл бұрын
@@Greywander87 One may add that the original sound for the consonant form of I (i.e. what became J) now has shifted to Y (as in mayor) in English. Weirdly, the original sound for I in vowel form (i.e. what stayed I) also partially shifted to Y (as in kitty). Seems English just couldn't stand that the vowel and consonant forms didn't share a letter anymore...
@MannyBrum
@MannyBrum Жыл бұрын
Also the v in vsed (used) was pronounced like v instead of u.
@AQ206istaken
@AQ206istaken 3 жыл бұрын
*A frogge biþ a smale beaste wiþ foure legges, whiche liueþ boþe in þe water and on londe. It is broune or grene or yelowe, or be it tropyckal, he may haue dyuers coloures. It haþ longys and guilles booþe. It haccheþ from an ey and it þan ys a tadpolle. It groweþ to ben a frogge, if it þan ne be nought eten.*
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Hit bith so.
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 3 жыл бұрын
Neverte forget, eet hay D Y E U R S E C O L O U R E S
@TripleGia
@TripleGia 4 жыл бұрын
Finally... The linguistics community thanks you for your contribution
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure my professors are simultaneously proud and critical of my pronunciation
@sylamy7457
@sylamy7457 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor I've seen a lot of criticism or your pronunciations in the comments of your vids. People need to know that their was no standard way of speaking across all of Britian at the time. It's totally fine for pronunciation to vary a bit since it's all speculation anyway, as long as it's generally close to the "accepted" pronunciation.
@creaturefan216
@creaturefan216 Жыл бұрын
homestuck spotted in the wild
@robbieboydudeguy
@robbieboydudeguy 3 жыл бұрын
The first part, when he says it correctly he has that “Teacher voice” aspect to him, but as soon as he starts translating it into modern English he sounds so emotional 😭
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
👨‍🏫
@AtlasNL
@AtlasNL Жыл бұрын
I love how Dutch this English sounds, it gives me the same homely feeling that listening to my heavily accented West-Friese grandfather as a Randstedeling does
@dmdizzy
@dmdizzy 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that the Middle English Wikipedia page for cat has a fucking Warriors reference.
@qwaabza
@qwaabza Жыл бұрын
what? where!
@basedeltazero714
@basedeltazero714 Жыл бұрын
​@@qwaabza Swiftpaw, I think.
@ArnovanZelst
@ArnovanZelst 3 жыл бұрын
The connection of English to Frisian is so clear in this
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
So I'm hearing. Haven't had the pleasure of hearing much frisian in my time.
@tomatoe9995
@tomatoe9995 3 жыл бұрын
This brought a tear to my eye. The first time watching the original video and hearing the Þ being pronounced as "p", genuinely hurt my soul. Thank you for this "reform".
@anonymouslucario285
@anonymouslucario285 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you hate the original video so much
@hamfranky
@hamfranky Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a tadpolle, thinking you will groweÞ to ben a frogge, but Þan you are eten.
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
OH THE MISERY
@karama5562
@karama5562 3 жыл бұрын
So glad that Wikipedia is finally providing resources for us Middle English kids
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Only real 1200s kids will understand.
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
Why on earth (earþ?) is this going viral *again*..? Please look at literally any of my other videos I do Middle English much better in those..! Also while I have you here check out this podcast if you're leftist and speak German. The revolution depends on it kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX3Yi6SbmZlgqJI
@pepitocovid-91
@pepitocovid-91 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad youtube recommended me this
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're here
@dogsareawesome9197
@dogsareawesome9197 Жыл бұрын
Idk but i love it
@DagonExcelstraun
@DagonExcelstraun Жыл бұрын
frogge
@OptimusPhillip
@OptimusPhillip Жыл бұрын
Best guess, has something to do with Luke Correia's frogge plush toy.
@timeforamazingchest5271
@timeforamazingchest5271 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone did the whole thing properly. Thank you so much.
@KutsaiChan
@KutsaiChan 3 жыл бұрын
This is EXTREMELY fascinating!! Holy cow, I've always been kind of a history buff and hearing someone read and pronounce this stuff properly gets me all geeked! This is so cool!
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Жыл бұрын
Gekyd.
@dragonboyjgh
@dragonboyjgh 3 жыл бұрын
DIVERSE colors, right?
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
except for yelowe. yelowe bith not worth mentioun in middle-anglish
@bitwize
@bitwize Жыл бұрын
Middle English speakers would have called all dogges houndes. The term "dogge" originally meant only large mastiff-type dogs, with "hounde" (or "howund, etc.) meaning domestic dogs in general. The German words "Hund" and "Dogge" still reflect this distinction; the latter specifically referring to mastiffs (Deutsche Dogge = Great Dane, also known as the German mastiff).
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
listen man I'm just readin
@kirstenobrien3017
@kirstenobrien3017 Жыл бұрын
💙 Thank you, I'll be playing this for my students (aged 11-13). In addition to learning how many legges the frogge hath, I'm sure they'll be quite interested in the sounds of the language.
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Why hello all you new friends. This video is picking up steam. Excited to have you all here! Since you're around, why not check out these other Middle-English videos I've made: Navy Seals Copypasta in Middle English: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYrNnKWGqqmkr7c The Rick and Morty Copypasta in Middle English: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWfWXoeCgZWrrtE My Little Pogchamp in Middle English: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWiVZZagjNqCi68 Funny Porn Intros in Middle English: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZzUh2ewqb2Lgs0 An Edgar Allan Poe Story in Middle English: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGPIcplmfdxnpLs
@ArcanineEspeon
@ArcanineEspeon 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm here because of the algorithm...indirectly. Actually, I got FROGGE but because I have a special attachment to the letter thorn, I sent looking in the comments for people to talk about the correct pronunciation and I came across your comment. Clicked on it and went to your playlists and here I am.
@alex_thee_weirdo9591
@alex_thee_weirdo9591 3 жыл бұрын
I changed my profile pic and I keep getting frog videos in my recommended, *IT'S A SIGN*
@bigbrownhouse6999
@bigbrownhouse6999 3 жыл бұрын
“Smol with no leggys” sounds like a doggo meme
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest Жыл бұрын
The original Catt video is still one of my favorite things ever.
@TetrixJ
@TetrixJ 3 жыл бұрын
You can really hear the root similarities to German and other languages
@MikoDerp
@MikoDerp Жыл бұрын
ah yes Þornography the art of documenting Þorns
@014Darkness
@014Darkness 3 жыл бұрын
Its very interesting to see how some words have evolved to be very similar yet others have a very different pronunciation
@princessmaly
@princessmaly 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of the original video, but I'm glad because þ is my favorite letter and hearing it pronounced wrong would make me a sad dogge.
@anonymouslucario285
@anonymouslucario285 3 жыл бұрын
It was supposed to be funny
@imperialofficer6185
@imperialofficer6185 Жыл бұрын
This fascinating video has lulled my vigilance just enough to miss that THE DANES ARE ON THE HORIZON
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
That was the plan all along >:3
@marten2857
@marten2857 3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused why this was recommended to me, and did not know if I would be interested in this video. KZbin recommendations never lets me down....
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they sent you my way and doubly so that you enjoyed it
@adriaanadriaan123
@adriaanadriaan123 4 жыл бұрын
Seetor, you have way too much time on your hands
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
Lies.
@_Obey_
@_Obey_ 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you did specify the other special letters, like the one that apparently is spoken like an S. I also gasped ad the pronounciation of "whyche" lmao.
@Nerdule
@Nerdule 3 жыл бұрын
that actually *is* an s! the letter s used to be written differently whether it was in the middle of a word or at the end. If it was in the middle of a word, you'd use the long s, ſ. (this is also where the German letter ß comes from - it's actually an abbreviation for ſs, which today would just be written ss)
@Greywander87
@Greywander87 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nerdule Ooh, I knew that the ß was used for a double-S, but now I know why.
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nerdule huh. Now I know. I always wondred about that ß
@EndofTransmission
@EndofTransmission 3 жыл бұрын
ß was actually sz though
@CyanDumBell_MC
@CyanDumBell_MC 3 жыл бұрын
idk why this in my recommendation but I learn something today
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
And I'm very glad to have had you here
@cosmicreciever
@cosmicreciever 3 жыл бұрын
It's cool to see the connection between this and modern german. For example the word for pet - houſdeeres - Haustier
@tristanmisja
@tristanmisja Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! The original pissed me off because of all of the mispronunciation
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
Now now, I do think it was still funny what Luke made of it
@tristanmisja
@tristanmisja Жыл бұрын
@@Seetor That's true, it was.
@ImperatorGrausam
@ImperatorGrausam 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, thought I was the only one who wanted a proper ME pronunciation.
@Beast_of_The_Blade
@Beast_of_The_Blade Жыл бұрын
Middle english really just sounds like an inbetween of german and current english lol.
@jakobdiehn6596
@jakobdiehn6596 3 жыл бұрын
this is so much like the saxon dialect in germany
@unwarranted657
@unwarranted657 Жыл бұрын
I love videos like this. I'm Swedish, and to see (hear) all the influences that the germanic, english and latin tree has on us (even though some of it is the other way around, and the base for our languages here are old as dirt) it's just nice to hear.. if that makes any sense. I just - personally - wish I could get one of them babelfishes.
@thewanderingmistnull2451
@thewanderingmistnull2451 Жыл бұрын
Swedish is a Germanic language. North Germanic rather than West Germanic like English, but undeniably Germanic.
@gabrielrussell5531
@gabrielrussell5531 Жыл бұрын
English has changed so much that if you read the Canterbury Tales you'll barely get the fart jokes.
@Living.deadgrl
@Living.deadgrl 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, as a frog owner, i owe you my life,,,,,, 🐸✨
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Hwat bith thine frogge's name?
@Living.deadgrl
@Living.deadgrl 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor mushroom :D
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
That's adorable
@soupsoup4245
@soupsoup4245 3 жыл бұрын
@@Living.deadgrl THAT'S SUCH A CUTE NAME FOR YOUR FROG PLEASE TELL THEM THAT I LOVE AND CARE FOR THEM DEEPLY
@SeanNH94
@SeanNH94 3 жыл бұрын
This is great, thanks for that proper version
@Oatmeal_Mann
@Oatmeal_Mann 3 жыл бұрын
Look, it really is funny, but it really bugged me so much. Thank you for this. Þhance þhe
@anonymouslucario285
@anonymouslucario285 3 жыл бұрын
So the original is funny but also not funny?
@bofriedbo
@bofriedbo Жыл бұрын
came here for a video that i thought was gonna be a joke, left feeling like i learned something! it was truly interesting in my opinion and it's cool to hear how similar it sounds to modern day English but also how much differences there are, especially in written form! Great video!
@infinikki
@infinikki 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love nothing more than to play a middle earth DnD arc with you as my DM
@Seetor
@Seetor 2 жыл бұрын
I am unopposed to this idea
@ratboythin8870
@ratboythin8870 3 жыл бұрын
god, thank you for this video. the original video was making me want to rip my hair out.
@anonymouslucario285
@anonymouslucario285 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you hate that video
@zoltandober
@zoltandober 3 жыл бұрын
My father has a thick hungarian accent and apparently that means he's speaking middle English cuz the vowel sounds are exactly the same
@seronymus
@seronymus 3 жыл бұрын
Hungary is based and redpilled
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Based on what?
@seronymus
@seronymus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor Based on God and tradition 🇭🇺 🙏 (thanks for replying senpai)
@zoltandober
@zoltandober 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh we're based on paprika and complaining about who ever is in charge
@dh4913
@dh4913 3 жыл бұрын
I felt something was missing when he said DYUERS COLOURES, though still a very nice video
@FieryDawn
@FieryDawn Жыл бұрын
Two years I was mad that Luke pronounced it wrong. I am mad no more. Sweet release.
@RockiesCanada
@RockiesCanada 3 жыл бұрын
There's still a lot of latin/french influence in the Middle English entries, particularly in "compaignoun" and "activide". Fascinating
@ZexionII
@ZexionII Жыл бұрын
And dyuers, "diverse"
@FizzyChalice
@FizzyChalice 3 жыл бұрын
Þank you, þis has been annoying me for ages.
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
*þis
@FizzyChalice
@FizzyChalice 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seetor whoops, fixed it
@sabikikasuko6636
@sabikikasuko6636 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that the mispronounciation of thorn was part of the joke. Reading the comments, it seems I was wrong 🤣
@ufoteeth.
@ufoteeth. Жыл бұрын
as an icelandic person (Þ is a letter in our alphabet) i appreciate this
@RizaLazar
@RizaLazar Жыл бұрын
Góðan daginn
@ufoteeth.
@ufoteeth. Жыл бұрын
@@RizaLazar HÆ
@KatietheKreator
@KatietheKreator Жыл бұрын
I like how I could understand all of this perfectly
@memeteam2692
@memeteam2692 3 жыл бұрын
Reject automobile. RETURN TO LEGGYS
@thatgaming1940
@thatgaming1940 3 жыл бұрын
So Middle English was basically a mix of German and Old English spoken with a Scottish accent.
@seirbhiseach
@seirbhiseach Жыл бұрын
The modern Scots Language/Dialect shares a lot in common with Middle and Old english and is why the initial reaction for most people is to assume that this is Scots and not English
@Adamantium93
@Adamantium93 Жыл бұрын
It would be more accurate to say that it is a mix of Old English, Old Norse, and Old French (Specifically Old Norman French). The Scots language developed from a dialect of Middle English, so that's why they sound similar.
@reptarien
@reptarien Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! SO interesting to hear Middle English spoken; it looks so esoteric but honestly does not sound far off from modern english. I understand it gets much more unintelligable and unrecognizable further back...
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@anhthiensaigon
@anhthiensaigon 4 жыл бұрын
1:10 yelowe is sus?
@Seetor
@Seetor 4 жыл бұрын
Man, fuck yelowe for real
@chuckleshelicopterwigwamjo7315
@chuckleshelicopterwigwamjo7315 3 жыл бұрын
whan þe impostre ys sus!😳 ⠀⠀⠀⡯⡯⡾⠝⠘⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢊⠘⡮⣣⠪⠢⡑⡌ ⠀⠀⠀⠟⠝⠈⠀⠀⠀⠡⠀⠠⢈⠠⢐⢠⢂⢔⣐⢄⡂⢔⠀⡁⢉⠸⢨⢑⠕⡌ ⠀⠀⡀⠁⠀⠀⠀⡀⢂⠡⠈⡔⣕⢮⣳⢯⣿⣻⣟⣯⣯⢷⣫⣆⡂⠀⠀⢐⠑⡌ ⢀⠠⠐⠈⠀⢀⢂⠢⡂⠕⡁⣝⢮⣳⢽⡽⣾⣻⣿⣯⡯⣟⣞⢾⢜⢆⠀⡀⠀⠪ ⣬⠂⠀⠀⢀⢂⢪⠨⢂⠥⣺⡪⣗⢗⣽⢽⡯⣿⣽⣷⢿⡽⡾⡽⣝⢎⠀⠀⠀⢡ ⣿⠀⠀⠀⢂⠢⢂⢥⢱⡹⣪⢞⡵⣻⡪⡯⡯⣟⡾⣿⣻⡽⣯⡻⣪⠧⠑⠀⠁⢐ ⣿⠀⠀⠀⠢⢑⠠⠑⠕⡝⡎⡗⡝⡎⣞⢽⡹⣕⢯⢻⠹⡹⢚⠝⡷⡽⡨⠀⠀⢔ ⣿⡯⠀⢈⠈⢄⠂⠂⠐⠀⠌⠠⢑⠱⡱⡱⡑⢔⠁⠀⡀⠐⠐⠐⡡⡹⣪⠀⠀⢘ ⣿⣽⠀⡀⡊⠀⠐⠨⠈⡁⠂⢈⠠⡱⡽⣷⡑⠁⠠⠑⠀⢉⢇⣤⢘⣪⢽⠀⢌⢎ ⣿⢾⠀⢌⠌⠀⡁⠢⠂⠐⡀⠀⢀⢳⢽⣽⡺⣨⢄⣑⢉⢃⢭⡲⣕⡭⣹⠠⢐⢗ ⣿⡗⠀⠢⠡⡱⡸⣔⢵⢱⢸⠈⠀⡪⣳⣳⢹⢜⡵⣱⢱⡱⣳⡹⣵⣻⢔⢅⢬⡷ ⣷⡇⡂⠡⡑⢕⢕⠕⡑⠡⢂⢊⢐⢕⡝⡮⡧⡳⣝⢴⡐⣁⠃⡫⡒⣕⢏⡮⣷⡟ ⣷⣻⣅⠑⢌⠢⠁⢐⠠⠑⡐⠐⠌⡪⠮⡫⠪⡪⡪⣺⢸⠰⠡⠠⠐⢱⠨⡪⡪⡰ ⣯⢷⣟⣇⡂⡂⡌⡀⠀⠁⡂⠅⠂⠀⡑⡄⢇⠇⢝⡨⡠⡁⢐⠠⢀⢪⡐⡜⡪⡊ ⣿⢽⡾⢹⡄⠕⡅⢇⠂⠑⣴⡬⣬⣬⣆⢮⣦⣷⣵⣷⡗⢃⢮⠱⡸⢰⢱⢸⢨⢌ ⣯⢯⣟⠸⣳⡅⠜⠔⡌⡐⠈⠻⠟⣿⢿⣿⣿⠿⡻⣃⠢⣱⡳⡱⡩⢢⠣⡃⠢⠁ ⡯⣟⣞⡇⡿⣽⡪⡘⡰⠨⢐⢀⠢⢢⢄⢤⣰⠼⡾⢕⢕⡵⣝⠎⢌⢪⠪⡘⡌⠀ ⡯⣳⠯⠚⢊⠡⡂⢂⠨⠊⠔⡑⠬⡸⣘⢬⢪⣪⡺⡼⣕⢯⢞⢕⢝⠎⢻⢼⣀⠀ ⠁⡂⠔⡁⡢⠣⢀⠢⠀⠅⠱⡐⡱⡘⡔⡕⡕⣲⡹⣎⡮⡏⡑⢜⢼⡱⢩⣗⣯⣟ ⢀⢂⢑⠀⡂⡃⠅⠊⢄⢑⠠⠑⢕⢕⢝⢮⢺⢕⢟⢮⢊⢢⢱⢄⠃⣇⣞⢞⣞⢾ ⢀⠢⡑⡀⢂⢊⠠⠁⡂⡐⠀⠅⡈⠪⠪⠪⠣⠫⠑⡁⢔⠕⣜⣜⢦⡰⡎⡯⡾⡽
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ that is horrifying
@redactedname247
@redactedname247 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why this was in my recommended but it is really interesting and you have a beautiful speaking voice! Subscribing.
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much! My voice is something I personally have a lot of issues with, it always makes my day to hear that someone likes how it sounds.
@humansomewhat2167
@humansomewhat2167 Жыл бұрын
Listening to you gives me an ancestral call to build a stone house and eat homegrown wholemeal bread cooked over an open fireplace with a barley and yarrow pottage.
@UCXWmsx-oM-WKahAKSNy-ATw
@UCXWmsx-oM-WKahAKSNy-ATw Жыл бұрын
2:46 cat is the best economist :]
@Pomodorosan
@Pomodorosan Жыл бұрын
1:07 where's the "yellow"
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
yellow SUCKS
@bernardoferreirafernandes867
@bernardoferreirafernandes867 Жыл бұрын
Yelowe*
@crazydragy4233
@crazydragy4233 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone here comenting how nice the proper pronounciation is while I’m replaying this for the 7th time to nail down the difference x’d
@Teag_Brohman15
@Teag_Brohman15 Жыл бұрын
I find it insanely hilarious that the middle English word for Legs is "LEGGYS"
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp Жыл бұрын
Okay that's neat. Now I'd like to see the middle-English Wiki entry for something a little less contemporary, like the Peacekeeper Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. I think that would be a fun project for some REALLY nerdy linguist.
@aiex314
@aiex314 3 жыл бұрын
Þaenks. Very cool
@AbsolXGuardian
@AbsolXGuardian 3 жыл бұрын
4:05 I feel like they missed a chance by not writing it as "will becomen Newe Englissh ouer-tym"
@stysner4580
@stysner4580 Жыл бұрын
I'm Dutch, and I'm shocked how close the language is to Dutch. If I didn't know any English at all I probably could still understand 80% of the text.
@meriotheart
@meriotheart Жыл бұрын
Originally I thought that it'd be some type of Fries or some more local Scandinavian language based on the thumbnail. I was listening and reading the comments and realized I could understand pretty much everything that was being said. I knew the languages were similar but this is pretty extreme, it almost sounds like a Dutch dialect
@stysner4580
@stysner4580 Жыл бұрын
@@meriotheart It really does. Because I know Dutch and English I could even translate the text word for word upon first glance, it wouldn't surprise me if Germans or maybe even Fins could as well.
@aristarlight2969
@aristarlight2969 3 жыл бұрын
You're getting a new subscriber just for the effort! Can't wait to see more for you! :D
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subbing
@tco6477
@tco6477 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why this appeared in my recommended list, but I'm happy to be here.
@docstoise196
@docstoise196 3 жыл бұрын
After reading the comments, I am now convinced I am the only one who can't tell the difference between the pronunciations of Þ
@duukvanleeuwen2293
@duukvanleeuwen2293 Жыл бұрын
Yea truee
@thewanderingmistnull2451
@thewanderingmistnull2451 Жыл бұрын
You can't tell the difference between "th" and "p"?
@GehennaGirls
@GehennaGirls 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that still annoys me the most is that the article says frogs "have lungs and gills both", when adult frogs don't have gills, they respire through their skin when underwater. My girlfriend literally named her d&d character after this sentence and its not even true and it bugs me SO MUCH
@eonasep
@eonasep 3 жыл бұрын
what did she name her character?
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Longys the Beguilled?
@va-v
@va-v 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even play d&d but that name is amazing and hilarious, no matter if it's true or not.
@laamonftiboren4236
@laamonftiboren4236 3 жыл бұрын
Though the phrasing is a bit misleading, it's still correct, from a certain point of view: any individual frog that lives to adulthood (because it was not eaten) has had both gills and lungs - just not at the same time. (Although there is at least one species that doesn't develop lungs.)
@someweirdowhoknowsyourloca1020
@someweirdowhoknowsyourloca1020 3 жыл бұрын
Spaniards speaking english: 1:00
@seeinred
@seeinred Жыл бұрын
I have no idea why this was recommended, but daymn.
@קעז-מענטש
@קעז-מענטש 7 ай бұрын
I can't take it seriously when it says "leggys" 😭
@vornamenachname1069
@vornamenachname1069 Жыл бұрын
I love how the colors are spelled completely different... With the frog it says: "broune or grene or yelowe" and then in the article on dogs it says: "broun" and "yelwe". As a German, I don't think this has to do with genus, nummerus, clausus but more with two differen people wrote those two articles using Old English of two different times or regions.
@B-System
@B-System Жыл бұрын
Middle English spelling was not standardized, so you could just write whatever was about the right shape
@benjaminjohannessanchez3310
@benjaminjohannessanchez3310 3 жыл бұрын
Upon watching þis video þe English and Dutch parts of my brain are mercilessly colliding while my Spanish part is sitting in the back, eating chulpi and mumbling, "que huevada oye..." 🌌 Trilingualism 🌌
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
The German, French and English parts are constantly at war in my brain whenever I am recording.
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 3 жыл бұрын
lmao just made a conlang sprachbund continua of visigoth pre eald ænglisc frisian and suebian when caesar wrote it edit frankish
@PixelstarWASD
@PixelstarWASD 3 жыл бұрын
"Liueþ" So the intervocalic "u" was usually supposed to be a "v" not to nitpick im just an ass
@Seetor
@Seetor 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I didn't consider that at the time. My newer middle English content considers this fact.
@AlessandroSistiMusic
@AlessandroSistiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was so disappointed by this video. If you're going to be a pedant, you've got to get it right!
@laamonftiboren4236
@laamonftiboren4236 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlessandroSistiMusic Perhaps you made a deliberate mistake for irony, but, "pedant", not "pendant".
@AlessandroSistiMusic
@AlessandroSistiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@laamonftiboren4236 haha, that wasn't deliberate! Thank you, will fix it now
@errorcode864g5
@errorcode864g5 Жыл бұрын
I've been wanting someone to do this for a while. Just found it. Great job!
@Seetor
@Seetor Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@DavidOtto82
@DavidOtto82 Жыл бұрын
Always fascinatng how older english often sounds german
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