Forcing MacOS 14 Sonoma onto a MacBook Pro 17”

Today we are going to be shoving Mac OS Sonoma onto a 2010 MacBook Pro and absolutely NOTHING is going to go wrong.....
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[@frokfrdk]

Yes I called the "2015 Retina MacBook" a "MacBook Air" yes that was just a small vocal error. Also I didn't realise that the RAM sticks were labelled 2x4GB. Bit confusing when it had both 2x4GB and 8GB written on the sticks but oh well

[@JoshuaG]

Now retest this macbook with the two ram sticks installed ❤😂👍

[@l2bprod]

i believe the ram sticks are both 8gb, but each port only supports upto 4gb of ram, therefore macOS is seeing 8 gigs

[@frag0638]

No, you're just blind my guy

[@orremusic9607]

it says 2x4gb under the 8gb on the label.. @@l2bprod

[@ArmedBread]

its ok

[@knownstone]

truly mjd moment

[@EzW030]

Fr fr.

[@rockpie.iso.tar.bz2]

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[@letssaylalala]

@@EzW030 okfrdk okfrdk.

[@AtrixTechYT]

Actually dankpods

[@AntoniNowak69]

agreed

[@Denuwu]

Macbook be like IM A SURFACE BOOK NOW AND I WILL BOOT WINDOWS

[@Like_and_subscribe353]

😂

[@rockpie.iso.tar.bz2]

Lol

[@foxroyalyty]

support trans-OS minorities

[@randomgamingin144p]

@@foxroyalyty minorities?! :O

[@sonicfan91]

LOL

[@jadxvx]

The fact you unintentionally booted into windows on a 17 inch macbook pro is honestly crazy

[@stevejobsreal]

Well windows can always dualboot on Intel Macs

[@respectyarn]

and trust me if anyone would know, it's @stevejobsreal !

[@michaelhunt364]

it was already installed onto that SSD he put in. The boot process only saw an intel cpu not a Mac/Apple hardware. So why wouldn't it boot?

[@OwenGalaxy]

no its really not lmao

[@forcequitOS]

The reason why it ran so poorly was likely because of the fact that it’s a computer that doesn’t support Apple’s Metal graphics API, which has been used for more and more throughout the system lately. 2012+ computers support Metal and have a way more enjoyable experience with OCLP, trust me.

[@oldnewphone2364]

I use MBP late 2013, i7, 4/256 for Sonoma. Perfectly works.

[@LennySharer9]

Which is why I’m thinking on putting MacOS Catalina on this Mid-2007 20” iMac I got my hands on

[@Poggy2]

should i put sonama on imac late 2013 16 gigs?

[@DisablerMaster-xf2wt]

@@Poggy2 yes

[@forcequitOS]

@@Poggy2go at it, it should support basically everything fine

[@CharlesRedstone]

My advice for you to make it faster would be disable the memory management system (it makes non supported Macs slower as its swaps memory on a weird way) disable all blur and transparencies and finally, disable spotlight indexing, that way you will have a better experience with OCLP

[@null-nl5su]

What do you mean the memory management system? It can't be disabled, do you mean disable swap?

[@MoneyGrab]

AND also select apfs, hfs+ is a fucking turtle

[@Apersonig]

@@MoneyGrab ssds on sierra 10.12.6 and up are converted to apfs, and all drives are apfs on catalina and above

[@Planet2763real]

18:20 RUN! BECOME FASTER, MY CHILD! - frokfrdk, 2023

[@Moonmancliff]

Hi, the reason the graphics and the drivers did not work was because you had put the drivers of the macbook you installed the opencore on, you had to go to settings and select the model number of this mac, hope this helps!

[@bramvandenbroeck5060]

For it to work, it's best to make the installer on the target machine itself, because the installer needs to be specific to your machine, even if you choose the correct one from a list, you can still run into problems, i run Monterey on a 2012 air and it works just fine, even, with 4gb of ram. Yes they can't download macos sonoma directly, but you can use a utility called Mist, where you can download any macos version that apple has on their servers ;) so now you know. I also tried Sonoma, but it is still way to buggy, yes, even on my mom's MacBook Pro M1 Pro 16 inch

[@frokfrdk]

Yeah I specified it off camera and it's why it errored out in the video

[@doctordothraki4378]

I once mismatched the OpenCore and MacOS versions. I installed a Sonoma version for 8,1 (early 2011 unibody) on an 11,3 (2013 Retina). It lagged, the UI looked tiny and was unable to scale, Wi-Fi didn't work and the wallpaper wasn't showing. It got fixed though

[@ImmortalChanger]

i'm running Ventura on the same model (late 2012 air) and while it's not perfect, especially in system settings, it runs fairly well for its age and i can even play minecraft. i tried Big Sur but the battery lasted literally less than 20 minutes, here it seems to last a bit longer, and consider that this battery hasn't been changed in years, so not too bad. Ventura might be a bit heavy but it's not terrible. this is my daily driver at the moment. it handles bluetooth, stage manager and external displays rather well, although stage manager has a weird "issue" where if you're playing audio it'll interrupt for a brief moment when you switch apps. not a big deal, but you notice it.

[@Cuby3212]

The Mac be like: I'm gonna run Windows now

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

All 17' MacBook Pro have dedicated graphics, for example yours has the Geforce gt 330m. Also the gt 330m doesn't cook itself, you're thinking of the 2011 15" and 17" Pros with the Radeon HD 6750m and 6770m respectively.

[@zizlog_sound]

These Radeon 6xxx gfx cards were also used on the 2011 iMacs causing issues there as well. I still haven’t figured out if it were the 6750 and 6770 only or all 6 series Radeon cards.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

@@zizlog_sound the 6750m in the 21.5” iMacs generally don’t fail much, but the 6770m and 6970m from the 27” iMacs are much more susceptible to failure. Less so than the MacBook Pros, but still pretty likely. One advantage of the iMacs is that the graphics are replaceable due to being MXM. You can put a GTX 660m into them and flash it with Mac firmware to get a metal supported GPU that won’t fail. Allows you to install Mojave and Catalina and have better support in Big Sur and up.

[@cristiandanilorodriguezgon6776]

i have a macbook pro 17" ended 2011 :( 2,4 GHz Intel Core i7 , 8gb , 512 ssd, with Intel HD Graphics 3000 512 MB and AMD Radeon HD 6770M. with matte display, its is wonderfull and still works fine. I want to do the upgrade but im scared. what would you recommend?

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

@@zizlog_sound all 6 series M cards. Although the 21.5” 2011 was a lot less susceptible to failure than the 27”. You can also replace the graphics cards in the iMacs, while you cannot in the MacBooks.

[@MrCed122]

Open Core Legacy Patcher support for Sonoma is still really early, I would guess most of these issues will be solved in the next weeks / months. Then again, maybe not, Apple has been determined to make older Macs harder and harder to support since Big Sur and Ventura / Sonoma needs some really hacky workarounds on pre-Metal GPU and early Metal GPU, without mentionning the problems with some touchpads, poor ressources management, etc. Ventura has the advantage of being a year old at that point, Open Core is pretty stable with it, but at release, it was rough.

[@nadnazym]

It's very risky I used Opencore And it crash my MacBook totally fatal crash

[@GetWiththeProgramGaming]

You can install windows 11 on a MacBook and it's pretty easy, I had a tough time figuring it out but once I got it it is a straight forward process (on a 2012 MacBook, should work on 2010 to)

[@sbomaggz]

You sir earned my respect and sub. Very funny and entertaining, also learned a lot today. Keep up the good work

[@numbazZify]

I literally put Sonoma last week on an early 2009 MacBook Pro 17, works well except you need a USB hub for the keyboard and mouse to install it

[@Devo1987]

care to post a video ?

[@sixunity1171]

how? the gpu does not support metal, so it must feel painful to use with software rendering

[@Nieczytelny_official]

i would put max monterey on it

[@_invencible_]

@@Nieczytelny_official i'm running Monterey on a 2012 iMac and 2011 MBP. The iMac runs great. The MBP struggles a bit but it gets the job done. I tried Ventura and Sonoma on the iMac but after running for a while i would always get some severe graphics corruption that forced me to reboot it. Not sure what caused it.

[@0bamo0]

17:45 look you even got the Notch !!

[@mikecarey3347]

APFS instead of journaled would better utilize the SSD upgrade

[@rafaf777]

if you install modern macOS on a Mac OS Extended (Journaled) formatted drive it will convert it to APFS before proceeding with the installation

[@mikecarey3347]

In my experience with legacy core patcher and doing this on older macs it dosnt unless done explicitly in disk utility have done on 6+ mid2012 macbook pros and 2008-2009 imacs there is also a convert to APFS option if using existing install @@rafaf777

[@RinaldoJonathan]

on a hackintosh, it is actually possible to disable this auto convert. i just don't know how. @@rafaf777 iirc dosdude1 patch did actually disable them

[@aleefools]

It's now time to install tiny 11 on it

[@Dylan12210]

watching this while having my job to refurb old macbooks is interesting. OpenCore is a life savor. You gotta select the correct model of the macbook before installing OC to disk, and you can edit options with OC before installing it to disk, helps a lot with drivers.

[@JessicaFEREM]

would be cool if they made a 17" mbp arm I would rock it if they made one that could get a week on a charge and had room filling speakers

[@ItsHonski]

macbook ultra starting at $3,999

[@xeienar]

They already have an 16''' and the most recent one 15'' so that's not happening any time soon.

[@armandslegzdins3311]

I also have a 2010 17 macbook pro, use day to day, absolute beast and wonderful machine. Mine is specd out with i7-640m (doesn’t matter today so much because it’s dual core, the same as your i5, 16gb ram, gt 330m, samsung 870Qvo 1TB, planning to swap cd drive out for 2nd ssd. Installed macOS Sonoma on the older version on oclp, runed like yours. Installed Ventura, been running for over 2 months, everything works fine, the safari open after half a second after clicking it’s a day to night difference with sonoma. To be fair Sonoma=Ventura feature and feel like. Everything works, even graphics acceleration, annimations smooth. On Ventura everything’s snappy, i usually use with multiple apps open including safari+chrome, shows no signs of weekness, everything’s snappy af. Usa a lot for dy’ing, music production, office apps. 17 inch macbook pro , the best macbook pro ever made, beast. Such as an e39 m5, the fastest sports sedan ever made. Period. Everyone using 17 macbook I do recommend upgrading to Ventura.

[@s23670]

Do you have an overheating problem? Thank you

[@armandslegzdins3311]

Is getting worse, but actually not, the reason is heavy dust buildup in fans, waiting for a screwdriver kit to arrive, because of those tiny stupid bolts

[@armandslegzdins3311]

I will clean it, repaste, shuld be completely fine, there are 2 fans, one good way is to manually speed up one fan so it doesn’t allow even the heatsink to soak up heat, and left other one at auto, set mine left to 2200rpm, that’s the treshold where higher i start hearing it, you can also disable turbo boost for cpu, if using for daily tasks

[@armandslegzdins3311]

@@s23670hope this helps

[@gamecuber6]

i love how when you booted into windows it decided to become a normal pc and not let you install mac os lol

[@OnAirRecords]

I also have a mac m2. I didn't even install this ridiculous version on it. I don't understand why you installed this on your old computer.

[@privateme686]

You, my friend, have earned a new subscriber. I love videos where people experiment with old devices, and I've found a new channel that does this! :)

[@DForce26]

The RAM installed was actually 8GB .. it says 8GB (2x4) kit... So you didn't really upgrade the RAM ;)

[@smashgarage]

Hey, just an F.Y.I that the 2010 17" MacBook Pro DOES indeed support 2x8GB 1066/1067 DDR3 SODIMM Ram. A couple reasons why you weren't able to see 16GB active. 1. You simply had a bad RAM stick. 2. For 16GB to work, you need to get 1066/1067 MHz RAM (certain older MacBooks will not work with higher clocked RAM. 3. (most obvious) It Needs an EFI Update. I assure you, 16GB works. Apple will state that only 8GB will be recognized, but it's actually 16. I have 16GB 1066MHz Dual Channel in my Mid 2010 Polycarbonate MacBook, which only was seen AFTER an EFI update. Great Video Though, Dude!

[@dxrrk]

@@CollynPlayz he's just explained it...

[@FelonixOU]

i know this video is over 2 months old but the opencore legacy patcher works that way it detects the macbook where you try to make installer for mac os sonoma installer it also install automatically patches for system what opencore detects where you create it so you got wrong patches and drivers what isn't for your macbook where you tried to install so you got driver confict. if you use opencore legacy patcher to create installer for other computer you need change the target in opencore legacy patcher program to the computer indentifier where you want to install macos sonoma to get right patches and drivers.

[@HaydenFluff]

It running slowly at the start reminded me of when I had tried to use MacOS Ventura on a 2012 MacBook Pro with a hard drive. Let me say it's NOT a pleasant experience... Though as soon as I got an SSD in it and Ventura installed on that, it worked like a dream and is actually very competent as a media/light office computer!

[@brokenelectronics3665]

In the settings of OCLP, you can increase the time the OpenCore bootloader stays on the screen. I usually set it to ten seconds. As far as the grphics issues, OCLP 1.0.1 is supposed to install root patches automatically, but I suspect that you may need to reindtall them.

[@JShipley323]

As someone who struggled with the 2015 MacBook for 7 years, I think the 17” is infinitely better Lol

[@rpst39]

Sonoma is just a bit goofy in general. Ever since upgrading to Sonoma on my AMD hackintosh when I sync my music to my iPod video it shows the album art completely messed up.

[@WaymoresBlues]

I agree. I installed Sonoma on a mid 2010 MacBook but I wasn't thrilled with the results or wanting to risk the possibility of the headaches involved with having to deal with future and as yet undiscoved bugs on a patched and unsupported computer running a new and largely untested Operating System version(alyhough I trust that frequently updating the legacy patcher software will likely remedy most issues going forward). I decided my best move at the present was to install OS Monterey because it has been well tested and is stable and will still receive security updates from Apple for some time.

[@DyingReindeer]

Thank you for clarifying how a USB-Stick works! I searched for a really long time but either no one knew, or people were just laughing at me for not knowing! No but seriously, i did this to my 2014 MBP... and it works amazingly!

[@vb7200]

The video screen savers are 4K250FPS so that's probably why it was struggling lol. I have a 2008 MacBook pro I'd like to try this on with the 8600MGT and 512 VRAM, I'd be interested in seeing how it handles Sonoma.

[@Drewiss]

You could always try this with a different ssd because those Kingston drives don’t have dram so they are sometimes slower than hdds! Great video!!

[@monidmonk]

24:00 the real XP experience

[@lbsiuk]

The framerate on the video being low happens on all Macs without H.265 hardware decoding. If you replace these videos with H.264 encoded versions, then they play fine as I'm pretty sure every Mac since 2011 has got a decoder.

[@TheWanderingTraderm]

this is called hackintoshing the macintosh

[@AnthonyPompa]

I love your videos man. Thank you for making them.

[@RZ302]

There were 2 times 4 GB RAM in that Macbook. It was an 8 GB upgrade kit consisting of 2 sticks, hence the labelling. You should have read the second line.

[@Nolandoeseverything]

I just bought a 2012 13 inch MacBook on eBay with a dvd cd drive, hopefully it’s a retina and I’m gonna install Sonoma because it’s my first and probably only MacBook for a long time

[@TeraByte38]

MacOS Sonoma default wallpaper reminds me of the default Windows *Vista* wallpaper

[@hega5honda]

you kinda remind me of dank pods, the editing and everything, anyways good video

[@boringlymillennial]

when he clicked on efi and suddenly windows logo appeared i was like wtf 💀

[@thorium9190]

You should install Mac OS Ventura/Monterey on it, Monterey is very good even on a 13inch 2010 core2 duo MacBook. I have installed Ventura on 2011/2012 MacBook pros and it runs fantastic. Sonoma is very new and open core still needs to iron it out

[@AlexHaglund-cf4ek]

The ram is still 8 gb, it is a pair of ram (2x4) as was labeled on the ram.

[@frokfrdk]

I never even noticed that until now, that is extremely misleading how they wrote it.

[@frag0638]

No, look at any desktop sticks, the labeling convention has been the default by OEMS for at least the last decade.@@frokfrdk

[@AlexHaglund-cf4ek]

@@frokfrdk I agree

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

Patriot did it a lot. It was to show it was part of a kit, not to be misleading.@@frokfrdk

[@frokfrdk]

@@EvilTurkeySlices it's stupid, it shouldn't say 8GB as the largest lettering on the RAM

[@jiggybucksington]

Your Mac model is either affected by the ram slot glitch where it only registers one stick or you have a bad ram stick/slot

[@Doodle_Animates0]

what is it with australian tech youtubers and just being a floating pair of hands

[@frokfrdk]

VR

[@ddnava96]

1:53 Voice: 128 GB Label: 120 GB

[@frokfrdk]

Oh no

[@manich1231]

you had 2 4gb sticks in it says 8gb kit look underneath where it says 8gb it says 2x4gb kit

[@kokohenker9439]

No 11" is the Smallest Macbook ever Made.

[@frokfrdk]

You'd think so, but that's just the screen size. In some dimentions the 12" MacBook is actually smaller than the 11" Air

[@HeraclesTheBudgie]

No ones gonna talk about how the 12” macbook has a larger trackpad than the 17” MacBook Pro 😂

[@lukey333]

i had a (maxed out) mid 2010 17” mbp in like 2019 ish and even when using the dosdude patcher to run mojave it was struggling lol (much more usable than this though), wish i kept it though to use as my ipod itunes machine (which now is a mid 2012 13” mbp tri booting windows 10, macos x mavericks, and mac os monterey)

[@BrettPlayzRoblox]

Still faster than an iPhone 4s on iOS 9 😂

[@WaymoresBlues]

This installation would have gone smoother if you had first zapped the PRAM before starting the EFI Partition on your USB stick. Also, when the USB drive booted up the MacOS Recovery the very first thing that you should have opened was Disk Utilities and erased itthe internal Hard Drive and formatted it as APS and as a GUID partition map BEFORE moving on to the Sonama OS installer. This is whats known as a 'clean installation' and what should be done on hard drive except with exception of an upgrade from currently installed OS software to a nerwr version of the OS in which case the drive already has the proper formatting and partition mapping installed on the internal drive. Personally I was amazed that you didn't even know to do this because it has been Computer 101 practically since the invention of what we know today as a hard drive. Prior to hard drives applications were boot loaded on to computers using magnetic tape or floppy drives that didn't need to be formatted when installed. Hard Drives formatted for modern MacOS computers and the Hard Drives formatted for modern Windows PC's are not compatable with each other. The MacOS hard drive APS format is not natively recognized by a Windows PC and a Hard Drive that has been formatted as NTSF for a Windows PC can not be recognized by a MacOS booted from an APS drive. I believe the only reason that you were at all able to see both the Windows and the MacOS system software running at the same time on the same drive was due to the internal drive booting from the installed Open Core Legacy Patcher's UFI Boot partition. What you should do is shutdown your MacBook and plug in your Open Core Legacy Patcher Sonama USB drive and restart and hold down the Optin, Apple, the P and the R keyboard keys while the Mac boots until you hear the startup chime to zap the PRAM clearing the onboard memory before installion. I've found that if you continue to hold those keys down til you hear a second louder chime is more effective at clearing the memory. After the second chime continue to hold down the option while releasing the other keys and until the MacOS Recovery loads and then you can install Sonoma. During the OS installation process your Mac will reboot several times during the instal which is normal although on some of the older Mac models the installation may stall or stop completely during any one of those restarts but I found that if I restart the Mac while zapping the PRAM until the second chime it will continue the install to completion. I am currently running Sonoma on an early 2008 MacPro.

[@TheMrJoltz]

I run this exact laptop with MacOS Ventura, it is running quite well. I use it as a big dvd player at my treadmill and watch the occasional Netflix/Disney shows.

[@dorinxtg]

Your 120GB SSD is practically useless since it was probably heavily used on your previous machine, and the 120GB doesn't have much NAND chips. I would suggest to replace it with a 500GB version (if possible, with TLC NAND ad not QLC)

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

tf is this nonsense? If you don't know what you're talking about, best keep your mouth shut

[@justhaider6300]

bro is it js me or is this guy the Dankpods of macbooks subscribing rn

[@Τουκάνος]

24:02 nice perfomence in sonoma ))

[@pretty_bored]

seeing a mac boot into Windows 10 looks so cursed 😭😭

[@windowsfan95]

I think you are safe when it comes to the graphics of the machine. The 2010 model uses Nvidia dedicated graphics, while the 2011 model uses AMD graphics. The 2011 model is the one where the graphics chip(AMD) stops functioning.

[@Scornfull]

You can take any laptop anywhere if you're strong enough

[@14RChico]

everytime I work with macs, I mess up but when someone else does it its easy.... bruh

[@johnthe5th61]

Wooh new frokfrdk video happy to be supporting you

[@theneuz3131]

Unofficially it can run 16gb ram from memory, I used to have same mac book pro 17 inch though mine had the matte display, maybe 1 stick needed reseating?

[@aurelienlux]

Yeah back in the day I had upgraded my 2011 15 inch MBP to 16 GB of RAM which it supported unofficially. And I think the 2010 models also did.

[@jaydenthomas820]

bro forgot to install the opencore efi

[@xeienar]

"it's just a video" the video: 4K 240FPS... yeah a 2010 macbook can definitely run that.

[@songsan807]

I thought after you install OCL you also need to run a patch afterward? I upgraded my 2018 MBA from Ventura to Sonoma about 2 months ago and even with that supported setup the Sonoma animation come in and out once in a while, so I am not going to go crazy trying to install Sonoma onto my MBP 2011. Just watching this video saves me the headaches and hours. Thanks.

[@martenmanna]

I'm pretty sure this dude watches Dankpods

[@jakubbartczak2642]

the ram was 8gb package, 2x4, read the label carefully

[@fritsmolenaar05]

i have a 2012 macbook air which runs sonoma fine mostly due to the fact it supports metal

[@ddeaen]

you are one of the best channels on this website please keep doing this i love it

[@dev0xr1]

MacOS Sequoia time

[@Notjobincome]

i found that for ram, you have to use 2 different speed for both to work that's weird never seen that before

[@iamdanyc93]

Why are you moving your hands like that ?

[@lyingglitch1018]

I wonder if my mid 2007 imac 20' would work

[@rusovich1999]

what is the model you format in hfs not apfs?

[@Shinesart]

Looks like many mjd and dank pod watchers are being recommended here, me included.

[@meccsanofficial]

Bros trying so hard to be like DankPods

[@the7dan7dan]

Monterey would be a much better modern os for this vintage of Mac. Try that?

[@Miguel-tw4yb]

(The laptop literally dying and lagging) "It's running fine"

[@patricktrakzel9657]

You muted the sound earlier in the video. That is why later you don't had any sound. And put the other RAM stick in as well. That might solve some of your video issues.

[@frokfrdk]

Sound did not work system wide.

[@kumarsajal8400]

You didn't re-apply the thermal compound on the CPU in this age old device, it makes this run hot, and throttles the CPU and makes it perform bad. And I believe some connection pin on one of the RAM slots might be broken or so.

[@nonexistant_human]

"how could you do this" - apple, 2045

[@regav62]

This vid made me check if any of my laptops were hackintoshable and my 2012 lenovo is!

[@BMEMER50]

No, I have mid 2010 13 inch MacBook pro and it has NVIDIA geforce 320m graphics and it still runs fine....

[@theodoreivanov6257]

It's good to also show things that go wrong, this stuff is never easy going. One thing I do not understand: what is it that you did differently at 11.30 for the Sonoma EFI to show up on the boot screen, not just the Win EFI ? You say "I forgot to do something" but what was that ? Thank you very much.

[@frokfrdk]

I forgot to specify the device in opencore

[@AyrisX86]

Modern MacBooks don't use Torx screws for the case, they use Pentalobe. It strips really easily if you try to use a Torx driver to open it

[@Floppagaminghugo]

bro really called the macbook pro a air 5:21

[@Justinbill8205]

Windows on apple MacBook ❤

[@senzo_71]

RECOMMENDATION! Always unplug the battery when doing upgrades ^^

[@huongho1452]

The 2010 MBP actually supports 16gb of ram! Btw :)

[@johnpaulgomezz]

Maybe an added ram will make it smoother?

[@JYKDutchYT]

What?! Sonoma can be installed on a Journaled extended format? I thought it was only APFS ?

[@TheSpotify95]

I've had the issue before with regards to dedicated GPUs that fail... I had one with a 320M (I think) and I had to force it (in software) to always use the integrated GPU, otherwise it would kernel panic whenever it felt like, including when scrolling through a Spotify playlist! Also, depending on how this goes, I still have one Unibody machine left, I might try forcing a more modern OS onto it... It has 10.13 High Sierra, the maximum it can take, and sadly even basic applications such as Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and Spotify, no longer support 10.13!

[@taintedviviem]

Non-metal Mac’s don’t have hardware acceleration yet, this is a known issue and poor performance is expected until that can be resolved. Give it a few months and check again

[@FLUFFS]

Is the 2012 Mac mini a metal one? 👀

[@matispokoYT]

Thats A huge mac(book)

[@gregritferdjr]

Try this with sequoia heheh

[@Vuknovic_04]

The ram was in fact 2x4, they were probably shipped as a bundle so on them it says that they are 2x4...

[@frokfrdk]

Yeah, noticed that now, really not a fan of how they're labelled

[@wrldmap]

this video came just in time I literally just got a late 2009 iMac

[@LukeLikesStuff17]

it works way better on Ventura or Monterey. I m currently watching in Monterey on mine from 2013