From Concept to Reality: Arctic Cat's Alpha One Technology

[@makattak88]

The ALPHA is the most innovative a sled has ever been.

[@MrWizardbread]

The Alpha one is my dream, my goal.

[@jaycesutherland4052]

The Alpha is sick!!

[@jaustinkwack]

Very Interesting Tech behind this design, Great Video about it ! As a side-note, I think the original ski-doo Twin Track oval race sled of 1981 had a single rail per track and then went to an extruded rail with twin hyfax.

[@PartTimeYooper]

If this skid was on a Polaris or Ski Doo, people would be talking about how its the "biggest thing since the REV" Let's just hope Cat brings a new chassis to the market next year

[@jaustinkwack]

I think the original ski-doo Twin Track oval Racer of 1981 had a single rail per track ? hehe ! and then went to a trick extruded more conventional twin hyfax when Brad came on board in 82... less derailing, a thing You do not want going into a turn at 90mph !

[@wendigo1011]

ARCTIC CAT ALPHA, THE SLED TO RULE THEM ALL.

[@frankeem3820]

So it's simpler with fewer parts and lighter. That must mean it's a lot cheaper to huh?

[@andrewhogan1268]

Not likely, engineering new developments is really damn expensive. So for some time, it'll probably be a premium.

[@hellodomo8003]

Haha, if only...

[@jordanwinter3190]

Magnesium isn’t cheap.

[@stephen9944]

Ditch Pickles come in Purple now...yay. Would be a huge leap forward if Arctic Cat fired their 1990's Sun Ice jacket designer.

[@flagovhate]

They were purple before they were green you imbecile.

[@collinallen5356]

that is an awesome design!

[@joakimfoxolsen]

@SnowTrax Television keep up the good videos I love it!

[@pontusluther382]

Can you test lynx boondocker 850 2019 vs the alpha one and maybe also the polaris pro rmk

[@pajamatime5750]

Pontus Luther They wont test Lynx as they’re not sold in North America! Everyone keeps asking that but you’ll have to enjoy the Skidoo reviews haha

[@pontusluther382]

@@pajamatime5750 that's sucks

[@pajamatime5750]

Pontus Luther yeah they’re some sweet looking sleds! Be nice to see reviews and how they perform

[@zakgreenlese3826]

Do you do any riding on Lynx snow Machines?

[@boser1212]

I’ve seen this sled work. The alpha does what any 850 can’t.

[@ericthompson3253]

Tyson Boser like snap mono rails? 😂

[@boser1212]

Eric Thompson yeah. If you smash into rocks or stumps it will break. I never seen it happen or even talked to any one that has. But I’m sure it would break just like any thing else.

[@ericthompson3253]

Tyson Boser well of course it would break you hit a rock they aren’t tanks.😂

[@marcusnilsson2463]

@@boser1212 the problem isnt that it breaks, the problem is the delivery time of a new one...

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Lolololol

[@FlyinRaptorJesus]

Those alpha rails Crack me up lol

[@sender6994]

What size paddles are those?

[@nighttracker1472]

I wondered when this thing was first introduced if the competitors and tried it and it failed in testing or some engineers are looking for jobs

[@Freeman3692]

OK. Let me make this clear. I am not a brand loyalist and I think that Arctic Cat has quite literally changed snowmobiling forever. That being said [written], water weighs 8 lbs per gallon in its fluid state. Meaning you would have to have 4 or 5 gallons of water to get to their 30 to 40 pound weight addition, due to snow build up in the track. Snow at its most compacted form has an approximate 8:1 ratio to water. So, volumetrically that would be an equivalent 32 to 40 gallons of snow packed into the skid/track area. Literally, their claim is that your track will be hard-packed with snow and ours will remain completely empty. Come on guys. The design speaks for itself. If someone claiming sled head status looks at this design and doesn't say "Holy s***. I wanna ride that." He/she is not a sled head. Like I always say- that sled looks/is wonderfully unstable.

[@darrylm7588]

Can I get a king cat alpha one? I'll trade my gutless axys 174 in the day they come out!

[@tonyderks9172]

Is this good in the trails or only for deep snow??

[@snowtrax]

Deep snow.

[@tonyderks9172]

@@snowtrax so is the standard riot witht the 146 going to be a good trail off trail sled

[@slclos2534]

how do you put scratchers on that?

[@jimmydesperado2936]

you don't....its not a trail sled

[@slclos2534]

James Sposato I get that. It what if your riding a trail to get to the pow is what i mean.

[@wingmaster2109]

SLC Los they come stock they are way up on the front swing arm. They are actually built pretty heavy duty

[@slclos2534]

@@wingmaster2109 Oh thats cool then!

[@goshdarnitman]

Got damn, i wish i lived where this was necessary 😂

[@philipp4109]

Have YOU seen the new Lynx/Ski Doo BoonDocker DS?

[@nakkisampyla4460]

PeFarm (brp) Lynx snowmobiles made in Finland for tough nordic use. Boondocker DS outperforms summit atleast in our snow!

[@ericthompson3253]

nakki sämpylä lynx looks WAY better than the skidoo’s. I just wish they sold them in Canada. The lynx’s are probably set up for different conditions that’s likely why it worked better than the skidoo. Or the rider

[@The5camille5]

Will you guys be testing the Taiga TS2 from Taiga Motors?

[@cameronjuzda7246]

Mmm are artic cats reliable I've rode with artic cats before and it seems they have always had some issue.

[@mcce11]

and the other brands never have issues. A lot of it is how the equipment is treated and maintained. Just remember alot of industry 1st came from cat. Slide rail suspension, successful electronic fuel injection, A arm suspension, hell it took everyone else foreverrrrr to pick up on that. But hey they're all good as far as Im concerned.

[@scottinman5788]

@@mcce11 I've had 2 99' ZL 600s.. never had a breakdown in 10 years. Now on my 2010 F8 LXR... 10,000 miles, only parts I've replaced are the usual wear items. I've pulled my friend's Ski-Doo out 4 times in the past 9 years. No sled is perfect but damn I'm a converted Cat man through and through.

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@mcce11 actually....Ski Doo and Polaris stuck with front trailing arms almost 12 years after Arctic Cat put the first A arm front suspensions on their sleds....the irony in all this....Arctic Cat invented trailing arms back in the late 70's on their Trail Cats. So in essence...Polaris and Ski Doo ran late 70's arctic cat technology on their sleds almost 25 years after the fact. But Cats are junk...dont ya know.

[@baggszilla]

I think it works great for mountain sleds but I wouldn’t want it on my trail handling sled!

[@krisi.2011]

Just wait till next year boys when Yamaha Arctic Cat Cat 2-stroke 880 cc gets thrown it in the alpha then you'll see a sled that should dominate

[@kenstv1415]

Alpha, them fighting words!!

[@pertybluestang]

Seems like that track is going to roll to much to the side when not in powder?

[@jimmydesperado2936]

They are fine on hard surfaces. Have you ever rode a bicycle with training wheels? Or better yet...its basically the same as riding a Can Am spider.

[@jordiemackeinzo5227]

Howmany sliders a season?

[@jimmydesperado2936]

No more than a twin rail trail sled. These are powder/mountain sleds....not intended for trails and hardpack.

[@FWCaptain-kv6sm]

Camso has had a mono rail for years

[@jerkerhybbert6417]

Which is in fact is designed by Arctic Cat.

[@FWCaptain-kv6sm]

I don’t think so. Camso engineer designed the mono rail

[@ReelAlaska]

A genuine argument can be made that no more of these rails are being damaged (proportionately) then any other. The simple fact is that people want it to fail, and there is so much more attention on it vs other rails. The knuckle dragger immediate common sense is that "two must be better than one right?". It's simply that "we've never done it this way before", therefore it must be wrong. In light of this, the ones that I'm aware of are (mostly) all due to damages inflicted by the rider that would damage any other rail. Regarding this video, I for one would really appreciate a more unbiased view. I appreciate the high quality cinematography and filmmaking, but due to the increasing bias, I'm quickly loosing interest and taste for SnowTrax. Also, this machine doesn't simply wash out, it's due to rider error. The alpha takes about 1/4-3/4 throttle to easily do what other machines do, due to it's far superior traction. If you over throttle it on a side hill, and over ride it with body input (like almost all axys riders do), it will then wash out. Not a design or flaw with the machine, but rider error...

[@MrRednuht13]

Very interested but not sure if I’m sold on the durability claims

[@jrod264winmag]

It's not durable at all. They are bending that single rail left and right. They already have brackets available to give I some strenght. Now it's heavy again.

[@nicklamo2425]

Yeet my 99 pantera has some niccceeeee suspension

[@rosskeene1913]

Idk about everyone else but I've already seen a few different alpha skids break on a FB page. One from hitting a stump and cracked right behind the front axle but in front of the shock. Another having axle failure. I like the idea but I think if people are already breaking them this fast they may have out to much effort into lightness and not strength.

[@pavmentsurfer13]

You dont really believe that NO ONE EVER breaks a ski-doo or polaris skidframe do you? Of course some will break. Everything breaks at some point. Just because a few people broke their alpha one single beam hitting stuff doesnt mean its not as strong as everything else. I have personally bent and broken many mountain skids over the years.

[@Eljefesidebyside]

Interesting, been looking everywhere but have not seen any pictures of a broken one

[@rosskeene1913]

@@Eljefesidebyside look in the sledderz FB group. It's got like a 100k people in it. And a guy in alocal chat where I live cracked it

[@Eljefesidebyside]

Yeah I've heard of people powder coating them and then they will break the material there made out of cant be powder coated

[@camaro69green31]

I so fondly remember helping Buddies fix their bent and broken Trailing Arms on they're machines... too often. I hit Lots of crap at high speeds many times and Never ever bent or broke an A arm on any of my Zr's or Firecats over the many years. Funny how it took soooo long for the other manufactures to catch up on such a major handling component. But they did..... See what happens with the mono rail which seems to be the Cats ASS!!

[@JeremySchoeder]

They could not "catch up" until Cat's patent on A-arm suspension ran out.

[@bdeep706]

146 alpha?

[@hjaltigto]

Riot 😊

[@darrrenbetker4266]

And how many of those skids have broke so far? Noticed u didnt mention that!!

[@nt3523]

Funny you ask.....saw one towed out the other day. Guy said he hit a rock. Rail was broke. I'm in Montana fyi.

[@darrrenbetker4266]

@@nt3523 yup. 1 of many

[@corbansmith9224]

I have seen 1 in person and 3 on instagram.

[@4290122]

Less than 1 percent of all built

[@darrrenbetker4266]

@@4290122 if this is the way of the future.....thats too many. And what about the ones you dont know about?

[@theebadmonkey7075]

Looks like it will kick the track off more

[@highlightsbottleflipnbanfl1847]

And an ostich has wings yet cannot fly, go figure. Looks can be decieving.

[@AustinMBecker]

Yamaha tried to do a rider forward concept with the RX-1, but the 4 stroke was the bigger bombshell to the industry. Ski-Doo did a good job with the REV, but I don't mind riding the older style sleds....

[@dalenylund2078]

Ice age wouldn't make rails if none ever broke !

[@ericthompson3253]

Um.. it’s purple? Ok sure but I don’t think this mono rail is gonna work out as planned. People can’t get parts of the thing either until something like June. Talking about weight and all this stuff, it’s probably still heavier than the pro rmks, summits and free rides.

[@WilliamStewart1]

RMKs are notorious for holding the most snow in their skids. Not sure of this has changed within the past 1 years or not.

[@djcarkhuff]

"Probably"

[@toddscholze6168]

What rock are you living under? Not performing as planned.... they perform excellent. Riders love them. Sure you might have a few who don't like it as well but that's because of their riding style not because the sled won't do what they say. I don't believe rumors about not getting parts till June. As for weight, the rmk is definitely light but they have durability issues. Check out Hay Days. It's full of vendors that sell products to reinforce Polaris and ski doo sleds. Magazines and parts company's like Dennis Kirk and such have tons of products. Reinforce the tunnel, reinforce the bulk head, reinforce the running boards, reinforce the A- arms, ect, ect. Put all that stuff on to make it tough like a Cat and see if its still lighter. Not to mention the money you have to spend doing so. Then of course, if you stay on trail and stay away from bumps you'll be fine. Bottom line is the Alpha One performs great for what it was intended for.... powder riding!

[@nt3523]

@@WilliamStewart1 Bullshit.

[@klasmvm4966]

William Stewart you get the rail within a week if you own a alpha, its only if you dont own one you gotta wait

[@bbreckner9884]

First? Lol looks like a nice sled!

[@Snowridermagazine]

👍🏻

[@pontusluther382]

Fan ja följer er på insta

[@mjuhanil]

Monorail

[@patrickmayer9566]

SLED EVOLUTION..............................................................cat.........it's ALIVE...!........😐

[@mikecourtney7503]

half the skid, total weight is still more than a Pro Rmk. keep working AC, you'll get it light one of these days..

[@AustinMBecker]

They can't beat the RMK....

[@WilliamStewart1]

Arctic cat has already said that getting their sleds down to the weight of an RMK means their is a sacrifice in strength and durability. There's a reason the arctic cat faithful stick with them, their sleds can take the most abuse when it comes to jumping and not breaking, and also hitting things

[@AustinMBecker]

@@WilliamStewart1 My shop teacher in high school bought an Alpha One, and the handlebars are already bent as is the tunnel. Not that this is the case for every Arctic Cat, but I will still always prefer a Polaris or a Doo for mountain riding...

[@PartTimeYooper]

@@AustinMBecker You could have just stopped with "my shop teacher in high school"

[@AlaskanFalcon]

@@WilliamStewart1 "also hitting things" Thats incredibly ironic given the cracking and snapping the monorail has been experiencing.

[@fishinfool247]

Great its 12 pounds lighter that makes up for the 6 belts i have to carry to get a full day of riding......screw that i went polaris never going back to shitty kittys

[@highlightsbottleflipnbanfl1847]

Polaris fanboy tolling maybe?

[@wingmaster2109]

fishin fool the team clutches on my car blow about as many belts as the team clutches on your Polaris...just saying

[@mikaelnilsson5912]

Its weak tho, my brother told me bout a guy who broke it

[@pavmentsurfer13]

So someone else told you about someone else who broke one... have you EVER heard a story about a polaris or skidoo skid getting bent or broken on the mountain? I have, lots... ive done it myself. Doesnt mean the skid is weak or has a problem. People will always find a way to break stuff. Nothing can escape that fact.

[@mikaelnilsson5912]

@@pavmentsurfer13 good point

[@FordManiac76]

When are they coming out with different colours on the Alpha. I hate purple!!!

[@snowsurfer2512]

Idea stolen from snowbiking

[@pavmentsurfer13]

Idea developed BEFORE the snowbike and was utilized FOR the snowbike from this original concept.

[@snowsurfer2512]

@@pavmentsurfer13 who developed it? What did they develope it for?