From Money Pit to Classic? Jaguar F-type prices after JLR's Electric Transition

[@Armafly]

I got a new F-Type RWD convertible in 2018 and I am always exited to drive it. I don’t care if its value goes down or up because I bought it with the intention to keep it until it will become a classic. The design is timeless and sexy and very often I receive compliments and thumbs up from random people. Decades ago owning an E-Type would have been my dream car; today my F-Type fulfills my old dream. Owning a Jaguar F-Type is for me not a financial matter but a passion.

[@kevinquartemont2313]

Totally agree. Every time I drive mine, and it's my daily driver, I absolutely love it. The ability to change your position amongst a pack of cars and get out of the pack to clear driving is probably my favorite thing about my F Type R . The thing absolutely zips from 50mph to well above in the blink of an eye. I went through a period where it was in the shop with all the problems you'll see when reading Jaguar forums. Thankfully, my extended warranty covered all of them less the small deductible. Now, I haven’t had any issues in quite a while. Like the original commentor, my plan is to hold on until it becomes a classic. To me, it's already a classic.

[@StronthPL]

F-Type is so underrated car. So underrated.

[@fourwheeltrader]

Great bang for the buck indeed

[@3ducs]

I wonder where the V6 manual transmission cars would fit in this analysis? There are not many of them, they were only made in 2016-17, only 5% chose them. I have one, a '16 3.0S, I really like it.

[@andyking2cargarage]

Looking to purchase a F Type V8 in the next 6 months. Appreciate the work you put in last year on this and it will be interesting how the market is still moving.

[@underrated_assets]

Already getting tough to find early years…so glad I grabbed the 2015 RWD R in early 2023. Drive, enjoy, and hold!

[@Santoshlv426]

No car that looks as beautiful, sounds as great and elicits such compliments can be deemed a money pit ! I bought my '16 F Type R in 2019 and it lost 10% in line with depreciation in our local market and flattened out. Depreciation was never a factor in my decision making process and while it's natural competitor is Porsche 911, I simply cannot "fall in love" with a Porsche. It depends as to what the intention is. Transport, Investment or ownership. LIke any asset, this should influence the decision.

[@morganvon5664]

My friend purchased a 2018 f type SVR. Beautiful car and very fast. He let me drive it. Good Transmission and brutal acceleration. But, compared to my 911 C2S, it just doesn't. It feels bigger than it is, the chassis isn't nearly as solid as a 911. The visibility out isn't great either. Those small windows make the car stylish, but make it a nightmare to see out of. It doesn't handle that great. It feels heavy, which it is compared to a 911. It's a desirable car just based on looks alone. But it's not a daily driver and it's not really a sports car.

[@Kurotsukuyomi]

@@morganvon5664 It is a sports car. The chassis is amazing (though not 911-level) and I actually prefer the V6S convertible so you can hear the amazing exhaust note (which sadly no 911 in the last decade can match). It's a different beast.. you use the 911 for pure driving dynamics and to set times. You use an FType to hoonigan around, make loud noises and leave infantile drift marks whenever the mood strikes. Each has it's place. Signed: A guy with a V6S convertible and a 991.2 GT3.

[@dlj1285]

@@morganvon5664 You know what they say about opinions. These cars are different. They handle fine. One is clinical and boring, and the other is NOT that. There, another opinion for the pile. 911 C2S, talk about an overrated car, especially considering current prices. They are becoming status cars that sound like crap more than anything else. Good cars though.

[@billporter5221]

I bought a 2018 P380 convertible in March of 2024 with 19k miles,paid $48k for it. I paid too much for it but it's a beauty and I'm in love with it so it doesn't matter. I'm 78 and don't plan on getting rid of it and will leave it to a yet undetermined relative. At 6"4 and 250 lbs it isn't easy getting in and out of but it's good exercise and once I'm in it I'm 16 again. They will go up in value in the future!

[@drewdogg77]

No regrets getting my 2019 R in BRG last year. Your last F-type video triggered my impulse to find my car.

[@jeffreyb.1657]

Has not cost me more than oil changes since buying....60k miles. It is not a money pit..it is bosch, trw, leer...it is top tier stuff and wonderfully put together. No rattles at 60k miles. In this regard, it is far better than a 997, 991, or 992 and it sounds and looks better. And at legal speeds it drives better.

[@dlj1285]

Porsche is the king of rattles, which is surprising.

[@wsvoorhees]

I wish you'd touch on if there is any difference in depreciation for Manual F-types, but their might not be enough in the market to tell.

[@mohitme1234]

Best cars in certain price segments that losses least amount of %

[@JWL-UK]

The V6 2018 model year manual has got to be the best value within the sports car category. It's the last production year of the manual transmission with the authentic, uncapped exhaust notes and all the power and exhilarating fun you need from a road car that is perfect for the UK roads.

[@FabrizioSpagna]

I have an SVR and it will continue to depreciate for a couple of years but I am SURE in 4 - 5 years it will be worth more than what I paid (not accounting for inflation of course)

[@AllanG1914]

Yay!! Another F Type video. I used your videos last year when I bought my 2015 R. It was very helpful. Ironically, I was expecting tons of problems but only had a leaking power steering container. Was hoping to get my money's worth on that warranty I purchased. Lol. Well, I still have 2 more years.😂

[@mikeymikeFType]

Strongly recommend that you keep the Jaguar warranty running if you can.

[@TheMarkyMarx]

I just paid $51,285.00 (sans taxes) for a 2016 F Type R Coupe AWD. It has 27,000 miles which is partly why it is more than the KBB average plus it is in mint condition and has the 20" carbon wheels with new tires. I think that, over time and with the switch to all electric, this Callum masterpiece will actually reverse the trend and appreciate in value.

[@mpc007]

Very interested when the early F-Type models will bottom out price wise. Theyre starting to undercut 981 porsche models.

[@dabsandsnkrs3977]

Can you do the current Nissan GT-R market

[@andtime4918]

Thank you. I was thinking today of asking you to do an F-type video. I have a 2019 R. I am due to sell it in 2 days, but I don’t think I can bring myself to do it as it is such good value for money in comparison to a Porsche.

[@jameswillard1]

I have a 19’ R Convertible V8. What are they telling you it’s worth out of curiosity? Thanks

[@nathanh8439]

Surprisingly the SVR prices keep going down since this is probably the most collectible F Type(besides the Project 7). I'm thinking they will drop to $50k over the next year or two and then level off.

[@JWL-UK]

IMO, the manual models will be the true collectables of the bunch given the tiny production runs. My V6 2018 is one of 100 registered in the UK across all years.

[@griccini]

Would love an update on v8 f types

[@fourwheeltrader]

I included them here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKvIpqKZoJuCpJYsi=nycfdo8BzbKPKZqF

[@cujet]

Thanks. I own a wonderful 2017 F-Type V6s convertible, and I think your presentation is quite accurate. It is in fact, exactly how I see it. Maybe (if it were possible, it is not) a well preserved F-type could be the car of the Rush song, 50 or 75 years in the future. An aluminum bodied car, that has the promise of long life, with a responding roaring engine. But we all know the stupidly fun F-Type has a reputation that trends towards "difficult to maintain". And, that is where one major problem lies.

[@mjeholdings2013]

I bought my 2015 F-type R about 6 months ago. Looks like I might have gotten lucky and bought at the bottom. It would be interesting to see if there is a market split between the RWD and AWD variants. I specifically wanted a RWD R.

[@nickgrace4743]

I did the exact same. The rwd R very unique

[@Santoshlv426]

@@nickgrace4743 Surely this would make the F Type R RWD top of the list for collectability ! It's rare for sure.

[@underrated_assets]

Same here. RWD + hydraulic steering were both part of the decision to go 2015 R. Collectible or not…it’s a near perfect car at this price point…

[@mjeholdings2013]

@@underrated_assets Yep. I wasn't aware of the steering. Did they go electric steering with the 2016 and AWD? I love mine, aside from the sticky switches. Found a 1 owner car under 40K miles.

[@dangrimmer2333]

I got my RWD R in March 2023, definitely one of the rarer ones!

[@infamy707]

Very much appreciate your videos. Could you tell me where you get your data from? I'm looking into Older Audi TTS's and M2's and would love to do a similiar analysis for myself. THanks!

[@bakhteria]

It would be great to see a perspective on I-Pace given new evs from Jag

[@tafalicir1253]

I dont see the f type is expensive for it's value comparing to the competitors... The 2022 full opp & highest trim of the f type cost 120k $ ...5.0 L supercharged v8 575hp awd moonroof or conv great sound confort special looking ... Tell me if there's any car has same options with the same price or less ???

[@mpc007]

Goes for used too. Would you rather have a 987.2 cayman, bmw m2, or f type v6s? Id choose the last. Car seems to offer great value for money. Question is whether now is the time to pick it up or wait another 2 years before it bottoms.

[@elliotthale1835]

UK content would be great. Even compared to the US market.

[@fourwheeltrader]

Working on it :)

[@elliotthale1835]

​@@fourwheeltraderthen I supplement my comment with a push for any UK content to be focused on Porsche 987/997. Really great content 👏

[@Kenword69420]

I’m looking at buy v6 type s for 10k it’s a salvage title and needs about 8K of work. I like the idea of owning an f type for 20k 😅

[@owenclark9567]

Could you make an update to this video?

[@fourwheeltrader]

@@owenclark9567 have a look at the front engine gt market update

[@hyper_channel]

Probably not a good car to keep value, but still think is one the best bang for buck you can get. Parts can be expensive but I wouldn't say they are unreliable. Both the V6s and V8s sound heavenly too, and they look much more special than a M2 for example.

[@dlj1285]

Part are expensive for all nicer cars we find ourselves interested in. The F-type R, on balance, is an incredible choice. People should put their money in markets if they care about putting money into depreciating assets.

[@varmastiko2908]

Depreciation is a useful tool if you buy to keep. And you should be buying to keep if you're a true enthusiast, as at the time they're not supposedly going to make any more enthusiast cars. As long as depreciation is on-going you benefit every year of waiting, and once you buy the effect of it over for you.

[@MTbone7]

Jaguar dealers are like funeral homes right now (insert evening cricket sounds)

[@TheMarkyMarx]

Funeral homes are busy, lots of people dying everyday. I've bought two Jags this year. F Pace V6 3.0L S for the wife and the F-Type R 5.0L V8 for me

[@MTbone7]

@@TheMarkyMarx they are beautiful cars no doubt, I bet you got tremendous deals even better. Enjoy them

[@CarsAndBikesBklyn]

What about manuals since there are fewer of them, although they are a V6?

[@hyper_channel]

The manual isn't very good, it's geared too long and not very pleasant to use. The autos are the way to go as they have the superb ZF-8 (extensively used for example in current BMW M cars) I understand your question, as in value due to rarity, but probably too few around to draw anything conclusive.

[@TheRegulator]

Great analysis. Thank you

[@aymansgarage]

Theyre incredible cars, this makes me sad, screw the Eu and all the pawns in government that are forcing this

[@robertpriest5273]

Any idea how many cars have been produced over its life time?

[@underrated_assets]

This data seems very hard to find for some reason. I have read many forum summaries which are great, but I’d be very interested to understand by year, model variant, color as well.

[@zzzzzsleeping]

Is Jaguar still in business ?

[@ricsu3462]

Always like the f type, had a few chances over the years to buy the v8 at around 40k, such a bargain. Hard to imagine collectibility for sure. JLR’s decision to go EV, the going away of big engines, the stricter noise restriction all made the f type v8s the one to go for. But interior quality issues (sticky buttons, cheap plastic, fading texts, meh design), the weak brand image, electrical gremlins (hit n miss) and the dilution of cheaper v6 and i4 variants will def hurt the v8s and value of the model ,as they all look the same and there’s just too many made. There’s hope for it tho, kinda like the 355. F type has the beauty, the sound and the performance, and with time pple might look past the low quality materials and reliability. (But u still need to reduce the number of samples out there to increase exclusivity )

[@hyper_channel]

The sticky interior was fixed 2016 onwards AFAIK, the rest more or less agree, as an owner :) On the reliability front, Jaguar and Land Rover in general don't have the best track record but I don't think the F-Type is less reliable than it's competitors. Being slightly more dated plays on its favor in that front. The most problematic bits are non-critical (pop out door handles, pop up central vent), the engine is solid it you keep up with the yearly maintenance.

[@johnny9]

Great analysis!

[@AlphaJ369]

You are smoken dope if you think the price will stabilize when Jag E vehicles come out next year.

[@nicholasbrowne4169]

Well done as usual 👍

[@jonckheeremaite5171]

What do you guys think of a f type V6s coupe (R design) from 2016 with 35k kilometers, sold for 56k euros . Is it too mich ? I live in belgium btw

[@kevinquartemont2313]

In my opinion, that's way too much. I got my 2015 F Type R Coupe RWD in 2020 with 32k miles for 40K dollars, if that tells you anything.

[@nhibbs3]

Can you please start analyzing the F90 M5/M5 Comp depreciation? I think it would be interesting.

[@r2drone227]

If JLR switch to electric only, they will go bust!

[@GK-hl8gr]

What about the 2.0 ?🤔

[@fourwheeltrader]

Check out 09:43

[@keyser456]

Jaguar will be a shell of its former self within 4 years. There are already a plethora of options for people that want EVs. Nobody is chomping at the bit for Jaguar EVs. Really stupid move on their part...

[@RootBeerGMT]

Jag is going out of business-they have zero ability to produce a compelling EV. And I’m a jag fan-have had two-but there is zero evidence to believe they are going to be in the EV game.

[@Tothefloor]

They are so unreliable I doubt they will ever go up in price much.

[@timeservices697]

Do you own one , which model have you got ? how long have u had it for ? What problems have u had ?

[@dlj1285]

@@timeservices697He doesn’t. Someone told him they were unreliable so it must be so. He’s part of the Internet echo chamber. The F-type in particular is NOT unreliable.

[@underrated_assets]

Classic response…with no substantiating detail. Other than the Y-pipe (which Jaguar corrected) and preventative differential maintenance, what makes it different than whatever you are baselining against?

[@terracodellc]

I have had my 2015 F-Type R since new and it is one of the most reliabe cars I have owned. It has had much less issues than my previous 2005 BMW Z4 coupe. The look and sound is amazing.

[@terracodellc]

@@underrated_assets The updated coolant Y-Pipe design is better since no seam, but still plastic. I updated my coolant Y-Pipe to the EuroAmp Aluminum that uses the same new 2-piece design as OEM.