Martin being possessed by the entity certainly fits with the change in martins mood and dialogue. I agree as well it looks like this entity is trying to find a physical form. Awesome video
@sweetpea17 Жыл бұрын
The entity might be born as a baby....
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@sweetpea17 Hmmmm, I wonder whose baby?
@StarParticleShade Жыл бұрын
I think the nursery rhyme was about the monster -- not the characters. It was a warning about what the Cicadas were going to do. I also think that Martin /WAS/ the entity. Someone locked it up, and he used the fact he was a Marine to trick Boyd into letting him out. They touch, they break, they steal: They touched Kenny, they broke Paula, and then they stole the three townspeople: Julie, Randal, and Mari. It has nothing to do with the people. It was a warning to them about what the monster would do - they would touch them, then break them, and then steal them. All of which it did until they destroyed the music box. ALSO: That voice that talked to Jim- it was the same one on the phone who talked to Kenny! Who is that dude!?
@aarontempleton8047 Жыл бұрын
Yeah who is that dude and is he good then? Or why would he warn them of that entity and tell them how to stop it I.e stop the melody?
@StarParticleShade Жыл бұрын
@@aarontempleton8047 Right!?!? ...and why does he sound so evil!? :(
@MrShrike540 Жыл бұрын
Yes that would explain why the other 2 bodies were decayed and how he was able to throw the rope down. He said they trap you but I think we will see martin again in either a victor flash back or it will be revealed the 2 bodies are victors mom and Chris 😅
@StarParticleShade Жыл бұрын
@@MrShrike540 Yes! It had to be the monster. Also, he told Boyd to leave BEFORE the music stopped. Not to stop the music. Martin was a bad entity the entire time, and used Boyd's military honor against him. I think that's also why the creatures 'noped' out of there when they realized that Smiley was dead.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
You're right. They touch: "It" enjoyed touching the deputy.....they break: well, of course, Paula......they steald: Randall, Marie, and Julie.
@hammondeggs3382 Жыл бұрын
you all think Tabitha wakes up and it's a dream... but wait until Victor's lunch box pops up in that world and we find out it's just another part to the puzzle... another "realm" of sorts.
@b.freeman2118 Жыл бұрын
I SAID THIS!
@hammondeggs3382 Жыл бұрын
@@b.freeman2118 smart minds think alike ;)
@jameswest981 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Tabitha made it , instinct would have made me side step that kid that pushed her ,and throw him off the light house.
@WhosCookin Жыл бұрын
It's not a dream... It's a parallel monster world
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
I believe Eloise is in the Baptist Church and agree that it's just the next level in Star Magic Land.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
I just viewed a site called Crappy Reviews "FROM: ALL VICTOR'S DRAWINGS,' and he had a pic posted that was not in my season 1 episode 9 scene. It is at the site at 3:59, and consists of Ethan looking at one of Victor's drawings with his mother. It is from "Into the Forest," at approximately 18 minutes in the episode. We only see the backside of the picture but it is of a giant spider in a hole and it looks very much like the Symbol, which is why I believe it was deleted before viewing.
@nickl8985 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree on the entity needing a way to pass from wherever it is, into the real world. One theory I had is the entity is imprisoned in Fromville and wants out
@nickl8985 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the entity was excited by Kenny because of his emotional state at that time. Full of rage towards Sarah. Maybe that's part of what the entity wants.
@jammylynn4eva Жыл бұрын
🔸️Ethan said that, according to the quest, one has to save someone in order to get unstuck. 🔸️I guess Sara got her house back. Yay? She was eager to bury Paula. 🔸️I wonder what will happen if FROMville folks try to find out where they get water from and how the plumbing works 😆
@PixelPerInch33 Жыл бұрын
😅
@JulieBarbara6 ай бұрын
I also loved that moment when Boyd triumphed and yelled that this place will not break him. He's gone through such character growth from when he first arrived in town to his journey through Season 2. He was so obsessed with trying to be the fearless leader - Mr. Fish 'n Loaves - for the whole town (like with his forest expeditions) that he neglected his family. He didn't see that his wife was losing her mind until it was too late. And in Season 1, he thought he had this place all figured out and could keep everyone safe. Then this evil entity spent all of Season 2 trying to break him, throwing him curve balls he never anticipated, testing his sanity, unleashing threats he didn't understand, and making him question reality. He was forced to show vulnerability and ask for help for the first time. In the end, after repairing his relationship with his son, he realized what was most important. Despite the impending doom coming for the town, this time he was there for his family. He went to his son's wedding, got the clarity he needed, and then he had the epiphany he needed to save the town including the 3 catatonic residents. Just brilliant.
@JeremyIceAndFire336 ай бұрын
Yea it was a great scene, seeing Boyd get pushed to the brink all season like that & not giving up. Great acting!
@Crochet_bro Жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting that Boyd's shoulder was injured upon leaving the dungeon and then upon re-entering.
@ravisubasinghe8031 Жыл бұрын
One thing still I can't understand is who throw the rope to Boyd to climb when Martin is chained up to the wall.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
You & me both, been wondering that all season!
@2005Aztek Жыл бұрын
I think it was Martin that threw him the rope.. He was the evil all along. He wanted to trick Boyd so he could infect him with the cicada larvae and Boyd would bring it back to the town. I just don't understand why Boyd didn't question it. I don't care what else was going on at that time, that would have been my first question after climbing out of the well.
@LukeStarkilla Жыл бұрын
Could the matthews RV Be covering the hole jade saw in the caves? Could be why there was knocking on the floor? Also did a walking dead extra stumble on to From set? I knew something was up when he was telling everyone to not fall asleep he suddenly had more lines than normal lol
@865LiveProductions Жыл бұрын
I feel alot of this is feeding off of Stranger Things. Everything from the lights and music boxes being conneccted to the other dimension to the entity using people to connect the upside to the other dimension. First going through dreams and needing to use people as vessles to connect the dimensions.
@maxijunia Жыл бұрын
Watch this!! The tree in middle of the road wasn't cut down, it had fallen from its roots (Uprooted), creating a small hole deep in its ground, and that's the same hole Jade saw from the tunnel. Once you discover the root hole, you will find the fallen faraway tree, and that will be the way back home. Also, Tabitha was the first person to ever fall from the glass window from the tower, look closely how none of the windows ever broken. Eloise might have used a different route, b'cos if she or anybody else had fallen, then who fixed back the glass windows, also why hasnt Victor ever used the bottle tree or ever entered the tower for over 40yrs now?. The spot where they all got lost is the same point to get back home, you just have to look closely. I think the way out is either to fall FROM the tower or to dig up the spot of the Jade's symbol to climb out of the fallen tree hole to exit the town. LIKE THIS IF YOU AGREE WITH ME 👍
@whiznight2k203 Жыл бұрын
And see that when we see Julie and Randall in them chained up in top of the tower the same place that Martin was and we know that their physical bodies are back in in the town so that makes me think that maybe Martin wasn't really there either and that his body might have been in the town
@brianharriman7979 Жыл бұрын
When Sara mentioned about the evil thing touching your arm, I don’t think she was talking about Kenny. Kenny grabbing his arm was a red herring. Martin directly touched Boyd’s arm when he put the worms in him. I think Martin was the evil thing that wanted to escape and he put himself in Boyd. That’s why the evil thing Sara talked about said Boyd brought him to the town. Martin quickly died after the transfer because he was in Boyd’s blood.
@typhonman Жыл бұрын
Plus Martin's true(?) self wanted Boyd to kill him.
@AldousOnTheFarm Жыл бұрын
Lots of layers to this ending - multiple ways things can be interpreted. What a great ride!
@theanthropocenegardener4529 Жыл бұрын
Video idea: with everything we know after the S2 finale, review all the S2 episode titles and show how they explain and foreshadow events in the show. Maybe include S1 episode titles too.
@kilroy7059 Жыл бұрын
Did jade find 2 pieces of the puzzle that fit? The first time he sees the symbol is right after he gets a vision of the bolder that fell on the civil war soldier in the cellar. In the last episode there’s a hole in the roof of the tunnels where the symbol is. Did the bolder fall from there? Is that the tree where the soldiers were hanging from where the roots formed the symbol? He also said at the beginning of the last episode that they didn’t have useful pieces of the puzzle like the corners. It could signifying that the puzzle piece didn’t have corners and it’s round.
@rizelmallari120 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the place really exist and there was really a massacre happened before, and all that we are watching is just Victor's (sole survivor) memory, hallucination or dream. Victor aged in Fromland, how he survived that long? why he is not being haunted? he has all the answers, or maybe he is the true Master of the place.
@Jugoplastika Жыл бұрын
when Martin was in chains is it mean that his real body was somewhere else like latter from three city citizens they body's was in city however they was still in tower in chains?
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
I wondered that myself, especially since it didn't look like Martin's body was even there when Boyd goes back to save Julie Randall & Mari
@colt5189 Жыл бұрын
When I first heard that song. I knew they were going to have to destroy that music box. And I figured the box was in the ruins since that was the only time I can recall Boyd touching it. I do think if they were to put out the flame in the lighthouse, that would mean the town couldn't trap anymore people and/or it might could cause the town to disappear kind of like when Boyd put out the torch. Though I think there are other entities that need the humans to help them escape, and so they probably wouldn't allow that to happen, i.e. the boy in white shoving Tabitha out the window. Or the lighthouse may be like a prison trapping the evil entity, and if it were put out, then that evil entity could be allowed to escape into the rest of the world.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea same, when i heard "unless you stop the melody" i had a feeling it was referring to to destroying the box
@marisajenkins3882 Жыл бұрын
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@StarParticleShade Жыл бұрын
Maybe! I was trying to look at the busted out light magnifiers, and it looks like there are 9 panels, and 3 are unbroken. I wonder if that has anything to do with it? Either way, I honestly trust the Boy in White. I think he's a good soul trying to help, and he knows more than we ever will.
@jjdelany8130 Жыл бұрын
I keep thinking of cabin in the woods, the whole pick your poison thing. It seems like there's multiple entities with multiple realms. Is the town protected? Are the night creatures just there to keep the ppl in the town? And where were they when jade went underground?
@heyhey1754 Жыл бұрын
YESSSSS i just realized its giving super strong Cabin in the woods vibes. I wonder if we will ever find out how many entities are there haha
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
yeah, i though they were be there attacking Jade, no sense but we just have to put all the pieces together to find out.
@2005Aztek Жыл бұрын
I think the chamber with the monsters was deeper into the cave.
@llamayt3832 Жыл бұрын
I agree that if Tabitha is actually back in the real world, she will find Eloise. It would be a good plot line as well.
@WhosCookin Жыл бұрын
Yes , Eloise & Tabitha will back to the FromVille to rescue others... Maybe the dog seen by Boyd can travel both worlds... So Tabitha can send messages to Boyd through the dog
@2005Aztek Жыл бұрын
The sister could look like anyone though. Tabitha's reflection looked different than Tabitha, it makes sense to believe the same for Victor's sister. Maybe she is the Doctor?.
@WhosCookin Жыл бұрын
@@2005Aztek same thought but doctor hair is black... reflection lady colour is blonde... I'm confused 🤔
@issacmiles3677 Жыл бұрын
Dude! You didn't even mention the reflection in the window at the end! It's a different person
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that was a different person personally, it just looked like Tabitha's reflection with sun in her face, the glare almost makes it look like its a blonde, but i think thats just her. I could be wrong but I don't think we'll see anything come of that.
@tarinsinthia1965 Жыл бұрын
The comment section make more sense than the whole series
@SuperToughnut Жыл бұрын
I don't think we should assume Tabitha is in the real world. This other world might be funky too.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea she could be somewhere else entirely, but there's no way to know. The little evidence we do have tho points to her being back in the real world more than anything else we've seen so far.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 I believe her hospital ID bracelet will tell us if she's in the real world. Is there anyway that can be highlighted?
@StarParticleShade Жыл бұрын
@@woodrownichols348 I like that the stylized cross on the screen looks A LOT like the symbol they keep saying. If you tilt it clock-wise, you can absolutely see the symbol in between light lines of the stylized cross. It's super creepy!
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@StarParticleShade Can you read anything in the box to the right of the symbol?
@StarParticleShade Жыл бұрын
@@woodrownichols348 I tried - but it's too blurry. I attempted to sharpen it on Photoshop, but all I can see is "Run ___" for the second button.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
The cave painting depicts seven sacrificial slabs beneath the cave's giant spider hole, with either roots forming the Symbol or they are three of the Giant Spider's legs. The Giant Spider is the shadowy figure behind Red Cthulhu, and some of his legs are wrapped around the red demon.
@865LiveProductions Жыл бұрын
We need to figure out how Randle is connected to the other 2 that was taken by cicadas. The other two were connected to main people in show. So Randall will somehow be connected to a main character. Im thinking Donna mayb. They both seem to be pretty high strung
@annnoble7181 Жыл бұрын
It needed 3 new victims to feed off of. Now this cycle has been sent into chaos
@smilingknight8603 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I love the idea of the worms being a vessel for the entity and that it’s looking for a physical form. And I really hope we get that Tabitha Eloise team up in season 3!!
@wallygee2198 Жыл бұрын
I hope we get to see in season 3 what those creatures are and why they are evil and why they don't come out during the day plus I enjoyed the first 2 seasons it's a very good show
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea i hope s3 has some more monster action, they kind of took a backseat in s2, which was fine but def want some more monster scenes like we got in s1
@Ripfettic Жыл бұрын
The entity is reminding me of the smoke monster from lost!
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
no, let that nightmare of LOST away please hahaha
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
The oldest lighthouse in America is Sandy Hook in New Jersey built in 1764. Someone said that the mechanism turning the lamp is from the 1800's, so if the Star Magic Land lighthouse is older then it was modified later.
@annnoble7181 Жыл бұрын
The same 7 symbol is on computer screen in hospital where Tabitha is found after being pushed out tower window
@jasoncaldwell5627 Жыл бұрын
That whole "You must stop the music" but might refer to the jukebox in the diner.
@brianharriman7979 Жыл бұрын
Something I hadn’t noticed is that the ventriloquist dummy was in a different place in the cave. It was originally on a chest but now it’s on a rock.
@jasoncaldwell5627 Жыл бұрын
Victor's sister had to return after the night their mother died- after all, she drew the pictures of the Tower and Bottle Tree. The computer screen in Tabitha's room has the "Blood Circle" as the hospital corporate logo. Tabitha's reflection seems to be of someone else. Maybe she's actually the person that wrote "Flight Of The Cromanacle".
@chantellejohnson Жыл бұрын
I think that the reason why the mom was killed by the tree because she was protecting her daughter and wanting her to free the kids. But the monsters got to mom first. I do think Tabitha is going find Victors sister. I can see the season 3 opening up with Tabitha driving around the woods to get back!
@tamekawatkins1348 Жыл бұрын
What if Tabitha IS Victor's sister?
@2005Aztek Жыл бұрын
I don't think the monsters killed her, I think it was the first guy (I can't remember his name) that was obsessed by the symbol and went crazy or was possessed by the evil. He was the guy that created the journal that Jade now has. If I'm not mistaken, that was the same time when he killed everyone else in town except for Victor, I think he killed Victor's Mom before she could get to the tree. I think Victor's sister made it through. But also remember Tabitha's reflection looked different in the hospital so Victor's sister could look like anyone...maybe even the Doctor?
@ducebigga9618 Жыл бұрын
Shidd that ain’t the real world lol she just hit the checkpoint aka on to the next level new map lol
@smilingknight8603 Жыл бұрын
i really hope that’s not the case, that could ruin this show if they try to make it into a video game style narrative with different “levels”
@beckyt72 Жыл бұрын
Where’s victor’s lunch box? May be a clue in it for how to find Eloise or even his mom. Jade’s expression at seeing escape hatch/symbol during ritual in tunnels seems he hit on something. Agree may find Tabithas body by tree otherwise everyone would be jumping in. Good ending but a tad slow in spots.
@Amnesjah Жыл бұрын
The middle eps where people say it’s slow for me gave off a lot of triggers on tillie. She arrived in the bus and was pretty calm and understanding about the whole deal. She gives Kristi morphine and so happened her gf is addicted to it. She guesses Fatima is preggo when really she shouldn’t have been able too tell, she then says something like oh I have heaps of children etc. 7 kids in the tunnel and yet Tillie is up in the house praying in a group of 7. Something is off with her. I do think Tabby has the lunchbox.
@beckyt72 Жыл бұрын
@@Amnesjah I agree. Something is off with rain-dancing granny. She said she’s dying but is traveling the country to bet on the ponies. One would think she’d be enjoying last months with her 4 kids and 7 grandkids.
@Ms.Maria_D Жыл бұрын
👋I believe Tabitha is out in the real world, thanks to the Boy in White 😳 Perhaps, he was hoping someone would make it to the lighthouse so he can show them the way out, in a "terrifying out the window" way 😂 I believe Tabitha is on a quest now (thus "Once upon a time" which indicates a beginning of a story), she will probably uncover the truth about FROMville. Also, I believe the trees are very significant to the town's illusion/creation; They don't bring you back to the real world, only take you to different places within FROMville plus the children were placed under this hole where the tree roots had covered it (but initially looked like the Jade's symbol). Victor place a lot of focus on the trees as well; Whatever the entity, it is using the trees as a guise.
@30avishka Жыл бұрын
Did you notice the monitor in the hospital the wallpaper logo similar to symbol jade is looking for
@Ms.Maria_D Жыл бұрын
@@30avishka Think it's somewhat similar but not the same?... it's hard to see it clearly though; Although, catholic hospitals usually have a cross in their logo so I'm confused by the logo shown. It's possible the entity or the symbol is tied to the real world but I would like to know how.
@poohbear91302 Жыл бұрын
Tabitha is on level 2 now
@Ms.Maria_D Жыл бұрын
@@poohbear91302 Possibly level 2 of a game?!? 😳😅
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
what if we are talking about an ancient demon that was caught hundreds years ago and now is about to scape again? well i though the same of you Maria, because of the episode's name, we just have to put together all the parts to find the sense and the answers to this. I think we are going to see in season 3 what happened that caused all this or why is this happening.
@Watson135 Жыл бұрын
I believe Victor is a renfield type character. Ethan will be the light that brings back the good Victor.
@samanthacrawford4642 Жыл бұрын
That place that Martin was tied up in, looks similar to the place in season 1 that Jade seen the guy under the boulder…and it all kind of looks like it’s architecture would be set up under the lighthouse.
@mirandaholley9797 Жыл бұрын
No one is mentioning how a fire truck and EMS van were on the steps leading to the top.if the tower.
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
maybe 3 or just one people who reached it left some object. And again the 47 in cards.
@dannykleven141 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was a sand & gravel dump truck
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
In the scene I call "Boyd's Confession," Boyd has it out with God, because he has faith that he exists, this is one of the greatest scenes I've ever seen on television, it's like the old Twilight Zone.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
I was a young teenager when the Twilight Zone came out.
@diegstrr7994 Жыл бұрын
What if the only way out of the town is actually through death? Tabatha most likely died in the town, but in return is able to exit the nightmare and return to the real world 🤔
@WhosCookin Жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe she die in the parallel monster world and wake up in the real world, maybe she will meet Abby Eloise and the others who die in the FromVille
@teedouble Жыл бұрын
They might be in mental hospitals for various issues or crimes and having test run to make them assume they are in a real world space but its a synced medically induced one.Maybe.
@RL_Sin Жыл бұрын
@FireandIce Correction The playing cards on the stairs are 4 ❤ & 8♣️ although there is a 7 underneath the 8♣️ -I wanted to point this out as I doubt it's a coincidence that the cards show the #48 exactly 1# after #47. I think Tabitha going to the Lighthouse ended cycle #47, hence the cards showing 4❤8♣️w/ a 7 still visible enough underneath rhe 8♣️ symbolizing she's entering the new cycle. - In the S1 finale Victor begins mentioning things are changing for the 1st time since only one other time in all the years he has been there. -The last few episodes in S2 we get signs of the #47 -S2 Finale everyone is saying it's the end, praying if it is the end, getting married in case it's the end etc.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
There should be ID info on the monitor with the symbol, there is a long box on the right hand side starting at 57:44 [my timer], and as she gets out of bed you can partially see the ID bracelet on her left hand. Can you zoom in on that? Also someone said that the "real" world is Mystic, CT, which is similar.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea Ill try n grab a clean screenshot of it, maybe it can tell us more after enhancing it.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 Thanks, anything is a clue at this point.
@TheFlyingKitten22 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the hospital is going to tell tabitha that they have no records of her having a family
@Calinotch06 Жыл бұрын
What time did Jade go to the tunnels? How will he know when it's getting dark? How is it, he didn't run into one monster sleeping? Does someone keep moving the doll?
@MisterTechnologic Жыл бұрын
Nothing took Martin over. He couldn’t throw the rope, and his personality changed cause he was freed. He tricked Boyd and then infected him.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
I dunno, that wouldn't make much sense seeing as Martin was asking boyd to kill him. And we already have confirmation that the entity was inside Martin, and he wasn't freed, he was still chained & literally died as soon as the worms left. I dont think Martin tricked anyone, he was merely a host for the entity.
@MisterTechnologic Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 I agree asking him to kill him doesn’t totally fit the theory but he also seemed to know a lot about Boyd, maybe he knew he wouldn’t or wanted to test him. Could’ve been a way to garner sympathy. Or could be when the music stopped that the entity took over, but everything since this indicates you want to stop the music and not that the entity comes when it stops.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
I'm starting to believe there's a monster spider behind the Red Cthulhu cave painting and the hole with the root Symbol is a Giant Spider Hole from which he eats the sacrificial victims.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
Victor drew a picture of one.
@penbunk Жыл бұрын
notice the Ahnggkooey children were also wearing white clothes...may be the boy in white is one of them? their "boss"? they kind helped Tahbita too
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea he could be, maybe the boy in white managed to escape before whatever happened
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
WTF with the male nurse next to Tabitha when she wakes up. He's turning dials on what? He looks like a movie extra told to just do something when the camera starts rolling. And the corridor outside looks more like a police office waiting corridor than a hospital. When asked what she was doing on the trail, she said she did not know, but she couid have thought that it could have been close to the lighthouse. And Boyd has finally accepted the logic of Star Magic Land. He gets the token like Super Mario and uses the torch to enter another dimension.
@dbgreene9020 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that Tabitha will find Eloise and they will try to take down the hospitals experiments of whatever this is!!!
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
That would be a great plot for their characters going forward
@WhosCookin Жыл бұрын
Parallel monster world
@jonfreeman9682 Жыл бұрын
These hospital experiments may be a new rehabilitation technique. Like in that movie ghosts of war all these patients are hooked up to a virtual dream world where they have friendship and community while they heal in the real world but then the dream world simulation goes haywire and turns into a nightmare with monsters and 👻 and they're trapped in it and can't get out.
@vaanli6464 Жыл бұрын
Just finished it but I'll be in bed at this time. Can't wait to catch up on it later.🤯
@robertrub5503 Жыл бұрын
The symbol looks like a count down
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
Why hasn't anyone removed the empty Creelman's Cola bottle off Boyd's desk? It's been there since the first episode.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
I get it, because it's not recylable.
@ilikepsych Жыл бұрын
I may be wrong here but my theory is that From touches on the philosophical theory of utilitarianism. More specifically the book titled “the Ones Who Walk away from Omelas” it’s about a utopian City, who’s splendor, serenity, and abundance depend on the perpetual Suffering of an individual below the city. Those that walk away from Omelas walk away never to be seen.
@Athen-z Жыл бұрын
I think the music box, creepy doll and other items that Tabitha saw in cave will eventually be destroyed to escape.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
You could be right! Seeing how scared Victor was of that doll, i def think we'll see it again.
@sweetpea17 Жыл бұрын
To bad an anthropologist that studies native cultures hasn't been brought to the town.
@kristingallo2158 Жыл бұрын
Or even a person from the tribe that inhabited the area
@thehairsmith Жыл бұрын
@@kristingallo2158 thats crazy because I was just talking about that. because to me that's what the talismans actually represent. its the land and the spirits. the old and the new and everything in between.
@thehairsmith Жыл бұрын
im glad you said that because it actually acknowledges the land. or even a horticulturist to examine the trees; something. I've been looking for someone to acknowledge the aboriginal spirit of the space. glad you guys said it
@grd_creation Жыл бұрын
That entity is looking for a perfect vessel then?
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
Gigipretty64 says below that the town looks like Camden, Maine, and I agree the church spires are the same.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Hmm interesting
@redrider3 Жыл бұрын
Everal points. We can estaish at this point that dead oeople are probably avatars of the red monster. Tgere go their advices are bad. Victor mentiones that when the guy from the past started seing the symbol bad things happened. It means that this symbol leads to bad stuff making the guy likely posessed.
@Amnesjah Жыл бұрын
Randall thinks someone in there knows what’s going on and is apart of it. I think he’s right, I don’t think it’s Donna. I think it’s Tillie. When they arrived Tillie was pretty calm and understanding about the whole thing. She knew about Boyd being in the forest when really she couldn’t have known. She gives Kristi some morphine, thing is her gf may have a habit of it, even if not it sets her off. She knew Fatima was preggo when really she couldn’t have known. She then says oh I have lotsa kids etc. 7 kids in the cave and Tillie is up praying in the house with a group of 7. She’s had parts in the slower eps which stand out. leads to me thinking she could be apart of it. Anyways, I enjoyed the season. Hope everyone else is too!!
@jonfreeman9682 Жыл бұрын
Tillie is suspicious and I think she's inserted in by aliens or could be a guide like the boy in white. I don't think she's evil but is there to help. The boy in white is like a help avatar in a game and Tillie is like a game sidekick bot.
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
Maybe is soon to find the way out from this, maybe is a continue of the same thing, altought it sounds very natural to say Tabitha was found 3 days ago by some people in the woods. What it they are experimenting with people with mental problems or it was just another part or time of the thing they are living. Once upon a time tells me in season 3 you will know what happenned from the beginning.
@arthurjeremypearson Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD. Stop referring to it as "the" symbol!!! There are three distinctly different symbols depending on how the three lines are arranged. One where they meet in a triangle, one where they meet in a point, and one where they meet randomly. Later on the episode, we see the symbol for St. Anthony. If you overlay all three symbols we've seen, it makes the symbol for saint anthony.
@s.r.h.3554 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the entity was trapped by some group or thing or person using a magic of some kind and the entity has found a way to get people into the town. It’s trying to get out too.
@Azureciel3 ай бұрын
I believe children & their dispair, power the lighthouse. “Saving” them will cause a disruption to the power system that holds our “From captive”.
@denispalushaj377 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have an idea when season 3 its comming out please
@veillance93 Жыл бұрын
my theory is all people that in city is they are stuck in some realm, like limbo, when you dying in real life but not go to afterlife.
@foxmcqueen872 Жыл бұрын
Didn't those spooky voices tell Sarah that all the killing she did was going to help them get home? Like, should we really be trusting them now?
@dbgreene9020 Жыл бұрын
Oh I think Victor's mother was found next to the tree just like Tabitha was found bc in reality she wouldn't be able to survive that fall without broken bones. I think the hospital is in on it. Did you see the hospital emblem on the computer screen in the background? Also St Anthony hospital. Really? I think that's how you get out of the experiment
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea they emblem looks kinda similar to the jades symbol
@dbgreene9020 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 Exactly
@troublefollows9986 Жыл бұрын
If the boy was trying to help everyone why not tell tabby the plan....what to do in "real " world ....how fo get back to town. The boy in white has its own selfish reasons.
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
That boy is not trustable. Well we have to rewatch the 2 seasons and found the easter eggs and everything we let pass
@troublefollows9986 Жыл бұрын
Also everyone thought the boy in white helped boyd by telling to get in a far way tree. Well he ended up in a deep well, injected with cicadas larvae and they hatched into a more deadly threat that he had to fix. Before that the boy in white told victor to "help" tabby get out the cave. Or Did the boy in white do that because he needed tabby for later at the lighthouse. He needed her alive to get to the lighthouse so he can sling her through the glass this episode.
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
@@troublefollows9986 this BIW attitude is strange, does not looks like a boy's attitude, looks like an adult one or something major. Maybe he is just another puppet from the entity or it was the entity. Man i thing when Sarah said is laughting in front of you i think it was the showrunner haahahahaha because what a confusing story man hahah
@benjamin7114 Жыл бұрын
The boy is part of the group of sailors that came to From town and built the watchtower. The children are the natives of From town. The boy and the children both are trying to fix whatever happened between the two groups when they met.
@thehairsmith Жыл бұрын
@@benjamin7114 hmmmm thats a good way to put it
@yard2x637 Жыл бұрын
I think the symbol means "aknewwy" or however it's spelled. Looks like an "a" going 3 separate directions.
@monster_cris4985 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm wrong but at 10:44 that's a 8 of clubs not a 7. I've looked up photos of playing cards and the little flowers would be missing that 2nd one in the middle. It's an 8 of clubs
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
The 8 is on top, the 7 is right underneath the 8. You can see it sticking out if you look closely, its easy to miss
@monster_cris4985 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up, it's so small you can barely see it.
@gr3atestthink3r8611 ай бұрын
The Female Doctor at the end is Boyd's son girlfriend and the doctor is Boyd's son in a future parallel reality, look at the huge resemblance 😁💡
@JeremyIceAndFire3311 ай бұрын
Hmm! Now that would be an interesting twist!
@gr3atestthink3r8611 ай бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 Thx, I got even more theories that I haven't heard anyone else say.
@JoseRamirez-vb1sk Жыл бұрын
Next time the the boy in white kicks someone from the tower, the song "Mortal Kombat" the techno version play😂
@udxpierre Жыл бұрын
Not saying anything about Victor's mom's reflection in the window right at the end?
@manicmentacide Жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to recheck the episode that showed us her, I couldn't figure who it could be. Thanks for pointing it out
@udxpierre Жыл бұрын
@@manicmentacide I think it was in S02E08 or E09 where the Mom left Victor and his sister in the 'tornado shelter', there you can see her face well. I rechecked the last second froze and zoomed in, right where she sees the little town with the lake/ocean, pretty sure that was Victors Mom. I stand to be corrected.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
That's not Tabitha's reflection. First the sun is in her face, everything outside is going to be reflected in that window, not from the inside. Beside the head moves contrary to tabitha and appears to be a young blonde woman wearing a sweater with the Baptist Church steeple pointing right at her. This is there for a reason.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
It reminded me of the ghost of Laura Palmer seen at the beginning of every episode of Twin Peaks.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
The nursery rhyme reminded me of the dirty men who descended from the sky and terrorized a small town in the Midwest, at the end an ugly bug crawls down the throat of a young girl who just had her first kiss, while the dirty men take over the radiol station and repeat a meaningless saying over and over.
@driftertravelerman6893 Жыл бұрын
Everyones fate is a mystery perhaps everyone wakes up in the real world perhaps nobody else does and tabi is special
@brianharriman7979 Жыл бұрын
There’s no question in my mind that Randall, Julie and Mari would have turned into creatures. I think that’s how the creatures are made.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
Yet the two skeletons next to Martin were never monsters.
@brianharriman7979 Жыл бұрын
@@woodrownichols348 being skeletons could mean the real versions of them had turned into creatures. Julie, Randall and Mari weren’t actually there it was just a representation of them, when their bodies die the visual representation in the dungeon may follow suit.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@brianharriman7979 But their real selves would be in a trance and screaming.
@seanmaness6381 Жыл бұрын
At the end of episode 10 Tabitha looks out the window of the hospital, but the reflection in the window isn't her face.
@MrShrike540 Жыл бұрын
It looks like an older version of victors sister or mom.
@WhosCookin Жыл бұрын
@@MrShrike540oh really.... Will watch again
@WhosCookin Жыл бұрын
Wow 😳 very good observation.... I noticed too just now
@Amnesjah Жыл бұрын
I saw that myself. Hair looks blondish.
@foxmcqueen872 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too! I think they are moving through time as well as space....it would explain the ancient ruins in the forest turning into a cellar
@bellesaved Жыл бұрын
I like your idea that it wasn't truly martingale anymore after the music stopped. Do you think the hospital logo looks like jade's symbol
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, i do think it looked a little similar.
@mariussicone Жыл бұрын
the town that tabitha is seeing on the window is Mystic from Connecticut
@Scott-kv7we Жыл бұрын
The only way out is to complete their journey without fear.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
I recently had a triple bypass and the hospital equipment looks modern.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Wow, a triple bypass is no joke, hopefully everything went well 🙏
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 Yep, and now I can enjoy bacon again.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
It was in 2018 and it hurt like hell. I almost died from a burst appendix two years earlier. They used Fentayal for pain in a machine on a timer so you couldn't hit it if you felt like you needed more.
@jessn7034 Жыл бұрын
I think there's 2 boys in white. I think it'll be revealed that they're twins, one good, one evil. 2 entities. However, that sounds like Lost 🤷🏻♀️
@Vaeland Жыл бұрын
Few minutes in and can already tell you’re thinking similarly to me. The whole music box thing in finale seemed too easy. Why warn them with a riddle, then bring them to a place Boyd can easily go back to? What about the consequences of freeing Martin, what consequences will this have? Is Martin actually dead, and was he actually in the past? I posted about my theory that Boyd went to a dream when he entered the tree, and this episode seemed to confirm it with them all having physical bodies somewhere else. So where is Martins body? It all seems suspicious to me, I think Jade was one looking in right place. My thoughts are that the true goal of the others is Fatima’s baby, I don’t think she will technically be the mother, as the town actually provided that part. I think they either want a literal bridge baby, or that it has something to do with the 7 drowned kids. That half blood might be what causes dreams to mix with reality, similar to Martin. I assume he was trapped in his dream to create that bridge, or that he was actually not trapped at all. His eyes seemed different so he may have been faking the blindness and he didn’t seem to be in pain or incoherent like the others who were trapped. Also if 47 number really is significant, I’m inclined to believe there are 4 apposing forces with the boy in white being only obvious so far. My prediction is that next season will focus on an unusually rapid pregnancy and whatever chaos comes with half human half dream baby, while Tilly will divide people, with her planting seeds of a cult following in the finale, I bet she introduces a dangerous ideology. Tabitha will research the dates she found with help of Viktors sister to find a connection to how/when path opens, (hopefully gets to use Viktors trusty lunchbox revolver) and she will learn another meaning to “kids locked in a tower” since the lighthouse didn’t seem to be what Viktors mom was referring to there, nor was the dungeon with Boyd. Jade will come close to answers after finding the source of water but will probably meet same fate that drove Christopher insane (hope not, Jade is GOAT). Finally, I think some of the dead like Tom the bartender or khatri may be alive in same sense that Abby is, using them to manipulate characters. Jim will still be mostly useless while his son helps Viktor overcome mental block by going on a quest and they will find 3 different nightmare realms that connect to the roots of the overlapping faraway trees in symbol, with the spider area Boyd was in possibly being one of them. If monster does need physical body though I’m betting on Fatima’s baby
@markbunch2720 Жыл бұрын
I had not thought of the 7 kids as "drowned." Elgin knew about the Brundles, and he asked Fatima about it. What if that's where their bodies are, bc I don't recall seeing any other water in or around the town
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
At first I thought Tabitha's reflection in the window was natural, but the reflections appears to be wearing a sweater and I know the sun is glaring in the window, but the reflection sure looks like she has blonde hair.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
And the reflections eyes seem to be in a different position that her face when the camera angle is taken of her from outside the window.
@Yung.jamal_ Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that’s tabitha’s reflection
@2005Aztek Жыл бұрын
She looks like one of the monsters from season 1. The blonde girl/monster. It could be someone else though. Victor's sister could also look like anyone if she made it through also. Maybe she is the Doctor?
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@2005Aztek We never learned what Victor's last name is.
@KonsBela Жыл бұрын
The best guess I have is that Fromland is an ALIEN SHIP. Invisible for people from Earth, flying somewhere in the sky. People get abducted, researched, maybe even eaten. The lighthouse is the place to jump the ship from. Hence Tabatha actually fell down, scratched her face and was found by hikers.
@jonfreeman9682 Жыл бұрын
It's possible like in that movie dark city. Aliens are experimenting with humans trapping them in perpetual night. Or it could be like the movie ghosts of war where they're trapped in a simulation at the hospital.
@KonsBela Жыл бұрын
@@jonfreeman9682 Dark City was a hell of a film 👍 Still remember the debates whether The Matrix took some ideas from there. Both films came out quite close to each other, but DC was first. Think will rewatch it this weekend
@jonfreeman9682 Жыл бұрын
@@KonsBela Haha ha I remember the debate but I don't think the Wachowski stole any ideas from Dark City as they've been developing their story for years and took them a long time to workout the technical challenges of stop motion 360 slow mo panning shots when CGI and unreal engine weren't so advanced back then. Also with such an outlandish story they struggled to get funding which was harder for unproven directors. But it was a cinematic masterpiece far above Dark City. This From TV show is all over the map created by the makers of lost so I doubt it can achieve the story quality of Matrix or Dark City but hey who cares. It's still an intriguing mystery show and the trick to hooking fans is you can't show your hand. So enjoy the ride but lower expectations for the ending.
@robertsaunders1345 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy, am I seeing it wrong or is that the 8 of clubs on the steps?
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea it's an 8 on top, the 7 is underneath it
@vjtm7061 Жыл бұрын
The symbol is the same logo as in the hospital
@gabrielalamberti5860 Жыл бұрын
When Tabitha looks out the window - we don't see her reflection instead we see a reflection of a blond woman. Did anyone notice that????
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
We talked about it during our Finale Aftershow & were analyzing that scene, we didn't think there was anything there. It just looks like Tabitha's reflection with the sun bouncing off her making it look like blonde hair, but i was able to get a few good freeze frames & it looks like it's just Tabitha. I could be wrong but in this case i don't think that will amount to anything, but im sure we'll find out in s3
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 Their heads move differently.
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
The reflection sweeps from left to right, while Tabitha's head mainly rremians motionless.
@onetallgirl78 Жыл бұрын
How can you assume that his mother never made it to the tower? Additionally, that monsters got to her. We just know that Victor found his mother's body. Victor provided no additional detail
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Actually he did tell us, Victor's exact words were "she didn't make it into the tree" which means she didn't make it to the Tower either most likely
@onetallgirl78 Жыл бұрын
@JeremyIceFire33 That was Victor's assumption because he found her body near the tree. We saw her leave...then Victor found her body
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
@@onetallgirl78 that's just it, Victor's word is all we have to go on here & since there's nothing in that scene that suggests she did make it into the tree either, the only actual evidence we have is that she didn't make it
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
This serie is the same premise of LOST, some kind of rare experiment.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Yea, Tons of Lost parallels here.
@maykent5796 Жыл бұрын
I hope the Writing Strike ends soon. I also hope Amazon Prime pick up the show.
@arthurjeremypearson Жыл бұрын
The number 47 is an unlucky number according to my dad.
@SM-mq2rv Жыл бұрын
47 represents the restoration and abundance in the bible
@brianharriman7979 Жыл бұрын
Martin initially asked Boyd to kill him, so I have no idea if he was being controlled by an evil force. Can we trust Sara’s interpretation of things? Was Reggie being influenced?
@rafaelcineasta Жыл бұрын
i think the entity throw the rope
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelcineasta I agree.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
Im starting to think thats exactly why Martin did want Boyd to kill him, cause he knew what was inside him & didn't want it to get out. It would explain why he's chained up too, whatever or whoever was holding Martin prisoner doesn't seem to be on the same side as this worm entity otherwise they would've free'd it themselves. Reggie tho certainly could have been influenced by the entity to kill boyd cause it prob knew Boyd was the biggest threat to its plans perhaps, or maybe Reggie just went mad.
@brianharriman7979 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremyIceAndFire33 why didn’t Martin give a verbal explanation? You’d think that would be the first thing from his mouth.
@yolandac9334 Жыл бұрын
@brianharriman7979 Martin was trying to talk Boyd made him stop.
@robertknox49 Жыл бұрын
10:27 could the old woman who has recently arrived in fact be victors sister?! Something off about her.
@JeremyIceAndFire33 Жыл бұрын
At this point, i feel like anything is possible on this show lol and yea she is pretty sus
@Escayargo Жыл бұрын
Sure, if only she wasn't old enough to literally be his grandma 😊
@robertknox49 Жыл бұрын
@@Escayargo good point but perhaps time moves more slowly in fromville? On the other hand I’m thinking Tabitha could find her if she has in fact left
@woodrownichols348 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that Tillly is a nickname of Eloise.