From SSPX to Catholic! (Becoming Catholic SSPX and extremism)

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

The TRUTH about the SSPX, their status and their schism. All documented facts, papal statements, etc. included. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKnLiGx9nbJqprs kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-ydJZrqppkZ9E

[@shadowlancer45]

Feels like... are the SSPX now collaborating with the followers of MDM? They had similar goals except SSPX are more zealous.

[@marietav7342]

See, Bryan, I have asked many rad trads who commented in this video if God has already liberated them totally from all mortal sins and sexual sins but no one has answered my question. Their silence means NO because it's easy to answer my question if their answer is YES. It is a clear proof that God will not lead to holiness those who disobey the Church/Pope and accuse the Pope of h r sy.

[@LizaB-p8n]

See, Bryan, I have asked many rad trads who commented in this video if God has already liberated them totally from all mortal sins and sexual sins but no one has answered me. Their silence means NO for it is easy to answer my question if their answer is YES. I know that no one from them can answer my question with YES because God will not lead to holiness those who are disobedient to the Church/Pope Francis. - Marieta V.

[@LizaB-p8n]

Listening to these rad trads means committing more sins and more sexual sins. They are dragging people to sins and hell. - Marieta V.

[@LizaB-p8n]

Listening to these rad trads and believing in them means

[@josh39684]

I decided to write a paper to my parents and family members about why I must become Catholic and have it with my Critique of Protestantism and a paper on church history. I must not delay any further

[@JWellsUp]

God be with you. Remember that Jesus came with a sword. So don’t be afraid nor surprised if you are rejected. This is your calling to deny yourself carry your cross and follow Christ. I’ll pray for you.

[@josh39684]

​@JWellsUp Thanks just finished the letter it's 13 pages and the critique is 20 pages. I titled it "All Roads Lead to Rome: Why I Must Because Catholic"

[@OzCrusader]

Sometimes sit with Jesus, listen without praying to Him and He will guide you.

[@fleskenialation]

Do you live with them?

[@davidcole333]

Be ready for them to be hurt and feel rejected. You most likely will be scorned. They will call you deceived; they will believe the devil has gotten his hands on you. Your life going forward as a Catholic must be your witness.

[@lukebrasting5108]

I live in a city where the SSPX have their national headquarters and inetracted with a lot of them. They're definitely not a cult, at least not in modern sense of the word. They're just normal people who want to live the faith as it was practiced before Vatican II. That means large families, modest dress, avoiding most modern music, television, books, movies and and video games, studying the faith and actually reading spiritual writings of the saimts so you can grow in virtue and holiness. They have a local store I go to which is where I get most of my books and sacramentals from.They will even order stuff in for you. Never seen anything cultish in there.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Thank you for the comments. We never said that they were a cult. If you watch the video then you would know that there are a lot of cult-like extremism among the members, and groups within it. They have a lot of extremism even into the hierarchy and even into their official teachings. When you directly contradict the pope and the teachings of the Catholic church and still claim to be a faithful catholic, there are many problems.

[@bleachdemon7321]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial I'm sorry but at 0:15 you do say explicitly "The SSXP Cult"

[@davidcole333]

@@bleachdemon7321 He's talking about the experiences the woman had...nothing more...don't take out of context.

[@bleachdemon7321]

@davidcole333 then why the gaslighting claiming he never said they're a cult, when he clearly said it.

[@drewbydoo4828]

​@@bleachdemon732142:35 is also pretty explicit and it's tied to "New Age" to boot.

[@johnneiberd]

In your charity, feel free to interview someone who has been attending PX Mass for more than 12 months and perhaps someone who has had a positive experience, as opposed to someone who confirms your own narrative.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We have, several times. Sometimes people shouldn't stick around that long if there's major issues. But here are a couple of people who are very involved in that sect. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKnLiGx9nbJqprs kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-ydJZrqppkZ9E

[@Leocomander]

@@CatholicTruthOfficialIt’s the Fallacy of anecdotes. For every person you find that had a negative experience at X institution you can find as many that had a positive experience at X institution. So while yes the SSPX has problems it is not reasonable to judge them based in the anecdotes of a single person who had a negative experienced and is now biased against them.

[@GranMaese]

In your charity, feel free to check other videos before pre-supposing your ideas. Brian has done that already.

[@johnneiberd]

@@GranMaese I appreciate your sarcasm.

[@judywargo2095]

This is ludicrous.... I have attended SSPX for over 3 years and I'm very impressed that they have been able to continue the traditional faith as it was when I was younger (1950's)..... Having wandered in the Novus Ordo desert for 40 years plus, it is so refreshing to find myself in an oasis of truth, beauty and joy. I have no idea what either of you are talking about, but I sense very strongly a feminist spirit is lurking around you and poisoning your mind with modernist ideas.... SSPX is thoroughly Catholic and definitely NOT a cult.... God bless Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX!!

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We are not saying they don't have any good things that are going on there, or they don't celebrate a reverent Mass. Of course they do. But either you didn't watch the video or you just ignored all of the problematic aspects of that sect, and there are many problems. Sadly, too many people want to turn a blind eye for the sake of a Beautiful Mass.

[@judywargo2095]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial I did indeed watch the entire video and what I am saying is that I have never experienced any "problematic aspects" with the SSPX. Perhaps we are not in agreement as to what you consider problematic....

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Thank you for actually watching the video before commenting. It is true that perhaps we don't agree on what's problematic, although we can discuss it. But maybe that's problematic. If you accepted Vatican II, then there is no problem. If you don't accept the Council like the SSPX don't, then that's a huge issue. It alone shows that they acknowledge the pope on paper but refuse to listen to the church and the Pope in actuality. Canonized saints, the divine mercy chaplet, and other things that have been approved by the church can't be rejected.

[@judywargo2095]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial I think perhaps you have overstated the position of the SSPX regarding VII. My understanding is that they do not hold an outright rejection of the Council, but have raised serious concerns regarding those documents which address ecumenism, collegiality and religious liberty. So I think to say that they "don't accept the Council" does not reflect a completely accurate statement of their position.

[@jackhohne6163]

Imagine saying the SSPX is a cult lol. I don’t agree with everything the SSPX does but this is very uncharitable and definitely not hyper nuanced

[@AnaMT1985]

@@jackhohne6163 The are a cult of the highest degree. They tick every box when you look up the definition of a cult.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We didn't say they were a cult. We said there was a lot of cult-like extremism within the sect. If you watched the video, you would totally understand. God bless.

[@quindariousgooch88]

​@CatholicTruthOfficial the title literally says "becoming Catholic from a cult of extremism". That is implying it is a cult

[@jackhohne6163]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial you can say that about every group, even the Catholic Church itself

[@Macariorealrey]

Very similar to the testimonies of ex -jahovas witness, that I have seen.😮

[@patarelquiroz]

While I am not an advocate of the SSPX the entire testimony just sounds like feminism mixed with Catholicism and I attend novus ordo regularly along with FSSP.

[@carakerr4081]

I agree there was an attitude of anti-traditional roles in marriage. A traditional marriage where a wife stays home and the husband works does not necessarily mean the wife is treated like a child. Also it is not an automatic sign of health for a wife to have a career and drive a lot etc this seemed too simplistic in its framing. There are many traditional families who are quite happy ❤

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Just saying it sounds like feminism mixed with Catholicism doesn't mean that it is. In the sspx they are treated like children. But just because she wants to work and feels cold too doesn't mean she's breaking out of the traditional roles. How many times women need to work or feel called to work. Why would she stay home when she has no children? It doesn't make sense. She is all freedom to work so we're not sure how that means modernism or feminism.

[@patarelquiroz]

@CatholicTruthOfficial She talks down on traditional gender roles, that is what feminism advocated for to get rid of the Patriarchy and blur the lines. Whats wrong with women who dont have kids to stay home? There are plenty of Catholic women who attend the novus ordo that are stay at home wives and mothers. This is nothing exclusive to the SSPX.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

There's nothing wrong with them staying home if they want to, but there's also nothing wrong with them working if they want to if they don't have kids. We are not condemning or poo pooing stay at home motherhood. It's the preferred thing, but not everybody can do that in every situation is different. So the pigeon hole everyone into the same thing and saying it can only be this way and it can only be that way, that's what leads to problems.

[@jaimemorgan5323]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial I have watched your channel for a while now, and enjoyed and supported a lot of admirable content; but this comment is disappointingly untrue. By what evidence do you make the blanket statement "...in the sspx [sic.] they are treated like children"? By 'they', do you mean the laity/parishioners, or do you mean women parishioners, or wives, specifically? And by whom, precisely, are 'they' treated like children? By their husbands? By their priests? In either case, and assuming you mean 'most women' or 'most parishioners', the claim does not hold up to reality. I have attended several large parishes in Australia and New Zealand, and know parishioners from Canadian, American, and Filipino SSPX parishes, and the difference between couples in those parishes versus our friends and family from Novus Ordo parishes is nil, regarding the marital relationship dynamic. There is the odd case of marital trouble, like in NO parishes, but by and large, the relationships are balanced, respectful, loving, and healthy. Many (if not most) wives follow their own interests or hobby; and very large number run small businesses from home, or return to medical professions/teaching/other professions in between children, where God has not seen fit to send children in a regular fashion. Many women whose children are all in school or beyond go back to professional careers, take up back-seated hobbies, and of course, devote additional time to a range of Catholic devotions and Catholic associations (Holy Hour, adoration, first Fridays and Saturdays, Spiritual Exercises/retreats, Legion of Mary, Militia of the Immaculata, and so on and so on...). Some husbands work for their wives, since the latter are running or starting up successful businesses that are compatible with family life and spiritual life. Women are generally well respected; they run children's Crusaders groups and catechism classes; extra-curricular classes for young ladies; they are classroom teachers (me, for instance), school principals, music teachers, designers (also me!), farmers (me again!), florists, doctors, dentists, photographers, artists, clothing designers, sporting coaches....and this is just a list of things women I know personally are engaged in, off the top of my head. I am of the understanding that marriage preparation classes differ from place to place; but my own experience was very positive. Men are by no means encouraged to act in a condescending or controlling manner, nor to infantilise their wives. They are reminded that they are help-mates, and while husbands have a duty to provide for their wife and family, and to live and fight for their salvation, there is no prohibition against women being, like Saint Therese's own mother, Saint Zelie, an industrious, self-sufficient, apostolic, and active member of wider society. Whatever group of people you're making claims about, it goes without saying that false claims and unjustified blanket statements are neither charitable nor productive.

[@IronCurtainTwitcher]

'how did you get out of this extremist cult?' response, 'I just didn't go anymore' - this doesn't really live up to my expectations of extremist cult

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

You are right. However, we never said it was an extremist cult. We said there are a lot of people inside that have cult like mentalities and extremist views.

[@HarryTwoDogs]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Dude! The very title if this slanderous video says "Cult of Extremism," proving you a wicked liar directly and factually.

[@discussingsplinterlands7728]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial The title of the video is "From SSPX to Catholic! (Becoming Catholic from a Cult of extremism)" though.

[@quindariousgooch88]

"they made me wear long pants to mass" wow, thats such a cult! 🤣

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Said no one in the video. 🙄

[@maddadbricks]

33:16 wow, what's quite concerning is the massive generalisations being thrown around here...

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Yet, you didn't give any examples. She said many times this was not all people, but many that she has spoken to and groups that she has known Within

[@0311catholic]

Are you serious? They are not schismatic and a cult? Ok modernist

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Play our skins addict, but we never said they are a cult. We said there's a lot of people within that organization that have cult-like mentalities and views. You only need to watch the video to see that it's true. We don't even need the video to know that it's true. When people tell you not to go to church on Sunday if you can't go to a Latin Mass and to stay home and pray, that's a cult mentality and a mortal sin.

[@0311catholic]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial ok yeah that is a kittle much

[@0311catholic]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial what do you mean addict

[@AmbiguousMotion]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial How is the title „becoming Catholic from a Cult of extremism” not accusing FSSPX of cultism???

[@alelilaceda3539]

​@@CatholicTruthOfficial Truth really hurts. They don't seem to understand.. sad😢

[@David-zm3wk]

Isn't Veiling Biblical? And aren't Husbands the head of their wives. And dressing Modestly, isn't all this according to the bible ??

[@Arvidholders]

Yes

[@paul_321]

It is promoted but that was during a time and location specifically addressed by St Paul. As gentiles, pagans and others were coming into the church veiling for ladies was needed. As the church became more monolithic and in one union the veiling no longer was a necessity, thankfully.

[@atrifle8364]

A Christian asks about the opinion of the Church, of whom the Bible is a product.

[@joechriste7052]

Modesty is very subjective and you can't make a blanket statement how to dress modestly. It's more about the intention of how a person dresses.

[@mazikode]

@David-zm3wk veiling is a way of reverence towards our Lord. Knowing that we are his bride. There is nothing wrong with veiling and modesty is a virtue.

[@ServusChristi777]

I thank God every day for leading us to the only SSPX school in our country.

[@MJRoche]

How you dress when attending Mass is about being polite and respectful and dressing modestly, it's not just about what women wear it's also about what men wear. I've seen some very inapropriate clothes worn by both men and woman.

[@maddadbricks]

19:41 this logic is just wrong. Disobedience is not incompatible with accepting authority. If an authority commands something that is wrong, disobedience is the morally good and right response. This doesn't mean that you don't recognise the authority.

[@atrifle8364]

Modernly we have no concept of when we should disobey. It's only in the case of sin. Most moderns confuse personal preferences with sin.

[@killianmiller6107]

The question then is who decides what’s wrong? The Pope has the authority to restrict the ‘62 missal, many trads say he is objectively wrong to do so, when in fact that is his prerogative as the Holy Father. Catholics are not Protestants who take moral judgment for themselves over and against an “authority” in name only.

[@dave_ecclectic]

@maddadbricks What you have said is true. but what you have said has nothing to do with what the SSPX has done. They do not accept Authority and their disobedience is a total rejection of not only this Pope but several of them. With those several Popes follow all those who have received Holy Orders through them. They also reject a council. The Authority has not commanded anything that is wrong or immoral. It is the opposite. The Authority has done everything correctly. The authority has not made any decisions on morality and the SSPX is not rejecting anything based on morality.

[@GranMaese]

My brother, The logic stated in 19:41 is not wrong, though. What's wrong is the straw-man fallacy of saying it is wrong. In the Church, disobedience is incompatible with accepting authority. Because you either accept it or not. Disobedience is an act of betrayal and pretty much the source of the original sin, the fall of Adam and Eve. If it makes you feel better, though, my dear brother, what there can be is to put into question the commands of the authority and try to negotiate, not in disobedience but trying to persuade the authority while still being obedient to it. Per example: --Saint Catherine is known for having opposed the decision of Pope Gregory XI to stay in France, but she was always loyal and obedient to the Pope. She begged him and gave her reasons made with dignity, diligence and respect for his position of leadership for a long time, so he would stop doing what he was doing [staying in France] and return the see to Rome. But she was always loving and caring, even if sharp, and simply exposed her humble reasons for what she thought was the better thing for him and the Church to do. --Contrary to the current schismatics plants who are disobedient to the Pope, who rather call him a "false Pope", or an "anti-pope", or just plain "the devil", ignoring and belittling his authority over them, insulting him and ignoring him. All because they don't like something he said or commanded us to do, something that is not even wrong to begin with, mind you, just something they didn't like. There's a huge difference between the two cases, and only in the anathemas side there's disobedience but never in the loyal, faithful one. God bless.

[@dave_ecclectic]

@@GranMaese St Catherine. "Are we there yet". Are we there yet". "Are we there yet". Are we there yet". "Are we there yet". Are we there yet".😀

[@etc3776]

Her objections: 1. The priest told her not to attend the New Mass. 2. Timothy Gordon(a critic of the SSPX) and others told her to be submissive to her husband. 3. Modesty stressed at the SSPX. 4. SSPX has doubts about the canonisation of post V2 saints - she misrepresents this, saying that they don't recognize women saints. 5. Women saints can't be doctors (The Church's meaning of doctor means a teacher - bishops are the teachers in the Church). 6. SSPX criticises the actions of the Pope. 7. People told her not to get a job. And insisted on traditional gender roles. 8. Some accusations of racism, not substantiated... All this makes the SSPX schismatics. Unserious video.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

If this wasn't a good straw man, I don't know what was. ;-) We never said even one of these were the reason they are in schis. The reason they are in schism was because of Archbishop Lefebvre. However many of these other points are concerning as well and could be schismatic acts like not accepting Vatican 2 or submitting to the authority of the Pope. Like telling people not to go to church even though it's a mortal sin. Dismissing the authority of the magisterium who has canonized saints including doctors of the church which is the full prerogative of Holy Mother Church. Jesus says, this is my body. Protestant say, no that's not true. The Catholic Church says something, and the SSPX say "no, that's not true." In complete disobedience to the church. They make themselves the Pope. Also we never condemned modesty, which is another straw man argument, but extremist modesty and the judging of others who don't fit that exact description.

[@quindariousgooch88]

what a joke of a video

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

What a joke of a follow-up comment. We give you countless information and you just ignored it. Even Protestants do that.

[@maddadbricks]

34:50 being a mother doesn't require having your own biological children. Spiritual motherhood is real. Seems you've missed a huge part of Catholic teaching here...

[@SailorRDN]

And stop using “Religious Life” The correct term is “Consecrated Life”, which also includes Consecrated Virgins, the oldest vocation in the Church and Mary’s own vocation. Religious life is one small subset of the correct larger category called Consecrated Life.

[@cbysngr1]

I mean no disrespect to Kirti, but she's almost entirely mistaken. The majority of what she says is absolutely NOT the position of the SSPX. Sure, there are some fruits and nuts in the Society, but there are fruits and nuts EVERYWHERE (even in the Novus Ordo!) To anyone who watches this video, this is one woman's take on her experience. This is not remotely close to an accurate representation of SSPX chapels, priests and faithful as a whole. Bryan, please interview someone who has a balanced viewpoint on the Society.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

What she says about the Sspx In many ways is true actually. Like their rejection of canonized Saints. Rejection of the Divine Mercy Chaplet. Rejection of Vatican II. Refusal to submit to the pope. And so much more. Remember, many priests teach these things in the SSPX not just people who are nuts. And there are a large number of nuts there.

[@cbysngr1]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Actually, as I said, she's almost entirely mistaken. And so are you. I've attended the SSPX for 35 years, but you and Kirti are the experts? She made 45 minutes worth of accusations, and most of it was her personal perspective on how she was treated by certain individuals, not what the Society ACTUALLY teaches, believes, or how they try to lead the faithful. Yes we reject the errors of Vatican II. Yes we are suspicious of the canonization of certain people since V2. Most certainly we refuse to submit to the Pope when he teaches error and unjustly refuses to allow the freedom of the TLM. (However, we do NOT reject his authority as the successor of Peter, on paper or otherwise.) As for the Divine Mercy Chaplet... is this a Dogma of the Faith? Is this something we as Catholics are bound to believe? You should know that private revelation is not binding on any Christian, so its rejection or acceptance is not a matter of salvation. I'm puzzled as to how that is a condemning strike against the Society? How many SSPX faithful have you actually met? 10, 100, 1000? I'm guessing very few. Yet you pass rash judgement on a great many. I guess if by rejecting the blasphemous pachamamma, rejecting the blessings of same sex couples, realizing that the salvation of souls trumps saving the environment, (etc., etc., etc.), desiring to adhere to the same Mass by which many thousands were sanctified, by requiring BOTH men and women to dress modestly, if by that we are nuts, then we are proudly so. The Apostles were nuts too. Are there no nuts in the NO? I'm just flabbergasted... really all I can do is shake my head.... the whole husband thing, requiring the wife to ask permission to leave the house, women shouldn't drive, women are forbidden to work outside the home? LMF(lippin)AO!!! 😂 What utter foolish accusations! There are so many things that she said which deserve refutation, but it's impossible to refute 45 minutes worth of nonsensical falsehood in a YT comment... Again, interview someone with a balanced perspective. God save us...

[@gerardducharme2146]

Well, I’ve been a member for 35 years and what you’re talking about has never happened. And I’ve known many good people, but we get the odd one. And we’ve been recognized the pope has given us faculties. We couldn’t hear confessions., perform marriages, will you may be somewhat irregular, but we’re still Catholic and we’re not a cult. Please get that right, because you are bearing false witness that’s a sin. God bless, and to rectify the situation.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

How can you say it's never happened? You can see it on their own website that they deny the saints that the Catholic church has canonized. The Divine Mercy chaplet. Many of their priests say not to attend Mass if you can't go to a Latin Mass. We agree with you that there are many good people, but also many Crazy ones as well. Sorry to disagree, but you don't recognize the pope except on paper. If you really did recognize his authority, you would submit to it. But they don't. They make themselves their own Pope think. Also Pope Francis gave them temporary facilities as an act of Mercy for the people in the organization who don't know better. But he said this should not be confused were there schismatic state, and it does not do anything to change that.

[@gerardducharme2146]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial actually, you are wrong when our priest celebrate the mass His name is mentioned in the mass we have holy hour, we mention them in the holy hour. Have you ever been to a SSPX travel to see that I wouldn’t ramble and wherever you’re getting your information from I’m afraid you’re wrong. My discussion ends here you could believe whatever you want but it’s wrong. Anything you have to dig it up about the SSPX is a fallacy Benedict the 16th recognize it but Francis recognizes it and has allowed the priest to hear confessions to get married what else are you looking for? You’re looking for a needle in a haystack, which is not there. God bless.

[@gerardducharme2146]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial and the answer that prove to me that we’re schismatic that is not a fact that has been lifted by Benedict the 16th himself.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We know full well that his name is mentioned in your illicit mass. However, just praying for him and acknowledging him without being obedient or submissive to him isn't anything. They literally speak out of both sides of their mouth praying for him and attacking him constantly.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

You sound like you've only heard one side. No offense. Pope Benedict stated that they are in schism and that they will remain in Schism until they fix their heresies and submit to Rome. His words, not ours. The last three popes have used the word heresy and yet you just ignored it all or perhaps just don't know. Pope Benedict himself said that the excommunication was not lifted, but was only lifted for the four priests. Not for Lefebvre and not for the organization. You haven't actually read the statements for yourself, have you?

[@Lotusblume5]

Pope Francis Said du bishop fellay: i do Not judge you, you are catholic!!!!

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Oh, so now Pope Francis isn't Satan n the suddenly infallible. Do you have a source on that? And the citation from the Pope's own words? The last three popes have been clear that they are in Schism including Pope Francis.

[@Lotusblume5]

​​@@CatholicTruthOfficial Show me your source, Pope Benedict Said that the bishops of fsspx are not more excommunicate you idiot, read the Enzyklopädie

[@Lotusblume5]

​@@CatholicTruthOfficial If you don't know German then learn it or have it translated. Pope Francis has spoken clearly and who are you? what authority do you have? absolutely none. little KZbinr nothing more. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4DZiISQqs1nmqMsi=88I9Abrdbi03cDt0

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Prove it. You haven't given me your source yet. Less name calling, more facts would help from you, angry one. Prayers for you.

[@My3.Boys.]

Are you saying all saints were involved in a cult and not Catholic? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

What does that even mean? All the saints were Catholic. None were part of the sspx.

[@ServusChristi777]

@@CatholicTruthOfficialA lot of saints were no part of the Jesuits. Does that make the Jesuits non-Catholic?

[@AmbiguousMotion]

Calling FSSPX a sect is calling the Church throughout almost 2 k years a cult. The FSSPX is not a cult, neither they are in schism. They are doing God’s work. Try to invite any representative of theirs and have an honest debate.

[@atrifle8364]

Let's start with the honest observation that the first language of the Church was Greek. The first Masses were mostly in Greek. It would take a later Pope to okay a Latin Mass, because it was the vernacular of the time.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

I didn't say that sspx is a cult, you said that they have a lot of cult like mentality, and people within. And they teach a lot of erroneous things.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

The church is 2000 years old, but the sspx isn't even 200 years old, and so it's not going against the 2000 years up at the church. If they were doing God's work, they would be in obedience to Rome and to the pope.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Sorry, we invited all of your big apologists to debate us on our Channel and none of them accepted.

[@AmbiguousMotion]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Don’t worry, modernism is even newer and has been condemned by Pope ex catedra as a heresy. Every modernist is a heretic then. FSSPX is under direct supervision of Francis, they make contacts regularly and they are in communion with the Church, just not fully and they reject some modernist teachings that are contrary to the Deposit Of Faith.

[@aaronaustin225]

Me when I make things up for views

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

* you mean when you slander other people without knowing their intentions. The Saints would condemn you for being uncharitable and for not having facts to back yourself up with.

[@davidcole333]

My wife had a very similar experience as this woman but in the United Pentecostal protestant denomination. My wife married her first husband at 18. She began going to this United Pentecostal church because that's where her in-laws and her husband went. They did the whole extreme modesty thing; they didn't allow the women to cut their hair. The ladies in this church would literally surround my wife and lay hands on her and speak in tongues trying "pray her through" to the Holy Spirit. According to them, if she did not speak in tongues, she was not a "true" Christian. I see the exact same extremist mentality from the SSPX ladies, were referred to as "those vultures" in this video. A few years later my wife divorced. By the time I met my wife, she had left faith of any kind. Through the mercy and grace of God, He led us both to the Catholic church at age 50. When we first walked into the church, my wife immediately felt at home because no one came up to her like she was fresh meat and started hugging on her or touching her. She says she felt like she could breathe. I just have huge issues with congregations that insert themselves into business that is between another believer and God. This woman in the video is 1000% correct, what business of theirs is her marriage? Marriage is man/woman/God, not man/woman/church ladies/God. I just want to say thank you to this woman for speaking up and speaking out. I learned a ton from your experience at SSPX. And I understand not everyone has the same experience, but I do see a LOT of extremism in what you went through. May God bless and protect you and your husband.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and confirming hers. May God bless you and your wife abundantly. Sounds like you guys have a wonderful story also.

[@jacksoncastelino04]

One Day Brian will Embrace The Tradition Catholic Faith

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

He already has. Nothing in this video undoes that

[@annelise_nyanga]

SSPX is not a cult!

[@SevereFamine]

Depends on definitions, cult is a notoriously slippery word.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We didn't say they were specifically a cult, but we said they have a lot of cult-like teachings from people, and a lot of like personalities and mentalities within.

[@azbasshead]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial 42:35 you sure did specifically call the SSPX a cult. How disingenuous!

[@bleachdemon7321]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial I'm sorry but at 0:15 you do say explicitly "The SSXP Cult"

[@SevereFamine]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial To be fair you did say “the sspx cult”. Better to be consistent with your utilization of an infamously slippery term, rather than come across as back-tracking. Much love. God bless.♥️

[@marcokite]

This channel should be re-named 'Catholic Lies'.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

But then that wouldn't be truthful anymore. Tell me you're no better than a Protestant who gives the exact same arguments. Maybe try something more substantive and intellectual next time.

[@discussingsplinterlands7728]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial If you are craving something intellectual, maybe you shouldn't say things like: "Honestly, it's very islamic."

[@zacharywitt4009]

Wow! You have the authority to declare that the SSPX is NOT Catholic?

[@atrifle8364]

He's just repeating the teaching. 🤷‍♀️

[@healhands5760]

@@zacharywitt4009 Anyone who denies the Pope is NOT catholic.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

It's the church who declared them schismatic. Not Bryan or this lady.

[@paulmualdeave5063]

Wow! You don’t know Canon Law 751? They are not Catholic.

[@AnaMT1985]

@@zacharywitt4009 Brian hasn’t declared them schismatics, but the last three Popes have.

[@superapex2128]

Trying to score cheap brownie points again, Bryan? I'm going to have to unsubscribe if you keep this up...

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Not sure what you were talking about. It's a conversion story. You should probably watch it first before making a rash decision. God bless.

[@superapex2128]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Your title is needlessly provocative - as if the SSPX were not Catholic... BTW, if you think the Pope is some sort of Dictator who can overturn Tradition on a whim, you obviously don't understand how the Church works...

[@superapex2128]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Liars will not make it to Heaven, Bryan... BTW, do you think the 'Jansenists' were properly excommunicated? Have you read the Bull of 'excommunication', Unigenitus (1713)? It's only eleven-page long... Not everything you hear in the media is true.

[@superapex2128]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Li*rs will not make it to Heaven, Bryan... BTW, do you think the 'J*nsenists' were properly excommunicated? Have you read the Bull of 'excommunication', Unigenitus (1713)? It's only eleven-page long... Not everything you hear in the m*dia is true.

[@Katoliko7]

Bye felicia 👋

[@Betrue875]

Bryan, you were once a traditional Catholic before you became indoctrinated by progressivism. I pray for your eternal soul.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Still a traditional Catholic. I think you're confused. Watch R2 videos with all the facts and documentation and then tell me if you still hold to that. Frankly, we go by facts, not by opinions. God bless. The TRUTH about the SSPX, their status and their schism. All documented facts included. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKnLiGx9nbJqprs kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-ydJZrqppkZ9E

[@AnaMT1985]

@@Betrue875 the people who claim to be “traditional” but attend a schismatic cult are the ones who are not “traditional” It’s never been “traditional” to dissent against the Pope and Magisterial teachings.

[@SevereFamine]

If you cared about the facts you wouldn’t be threatened by hearing the case. If SSPX are schismatic would you want to know or would you prefer to live in ignorance?

[@NoahMiller-j4d]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Are you a homosexual, and/or do you accept homosexuality/sodomy as normal and not a sin?

[@alelilaceda3539]

​@@SevereFamine They should have an open mind, and see for themselves, but more importantly, asking the Holy Spirit for guidance to really search for the Truth.

[@johnlemieux1710]

Traditional mass is the proper way in my view. St-Clements in Ottawa Ontario Canada fills up while all the Novus Ordo churches are empty.

[@atrifle8364]

No they are not empty. Most of the Roman church uses the current missal. Missal of 1962 communities are a first world phenomenon.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

I wonder if the traditional masses had as many churches and masses as the Novus ordo, would they be so full? I wonder. They seem full because they have so few churches. We are not against the traditional Latin mass, and support it 100%. But we also don't reject the NO

[@atrifle8364]

​@@CatholicTruthOfficial- People seem to be seeing a few small full churches with obvious young families and assuming the litgury is creating that situation. They don't see that a small self selected group with common interests exist and that it simply may not scale up. There's a moderately liberal parish near us. It's large and runs 5 Masses in a weekend. Just one semi empty Mass could hold possibly the entire attendance at one small (but full) parish. I don't think many of the radical traditionalists understand that they are a small percentage of their diocese, even where it's popular. My diocese has almost no Missal of 62 communities at this point. Yes, parishes are closing overall. It doesn't follow that any particular litgury will pack them at Mass. The lack of growth beyond a certain point in most communities suggests that it maybe more of a niche.

[@marietav7342]

@@johnlemieux1710 God healed me completely and permanently from all mortal sins and all sexual sins through attending the NO Mass ONLY. ANSWER THIS: Did God liberate you completely and permanently from all mortal sins and all sexual sins by attending ONLY Latin Mass and receiving communion only on tongue and kneeling?

[@janethrosales7075]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial traditional mass in Latin is the way How we celebrate mass today in days facing the people instead of God just don’t go with me is like giving our back to Jesus

[@sarsarii]

To imply SSPX is not Catholic, and a cult, is ridiculous.

[@atrifle8364]

Is the SSPX in communion with Peter? If no, then it's not Catholic. It's that simple. For sure, they do not uphold the teachings/faith.

[@dariaschooler]

This erroneous argument that is the dead horse getting beaten. They want to hate the SSPX for defending the entire deposit of the faith of nearly 2 millennia and not just the post conciliar ape of the church unmoored from tradition. The modernist changes that never end will make a future church unrecognizable as Catholic. There is no schism unless the modernists jettison the magisterium from the time of the apostles to just prior to Vatican 2. This creates division and disrespect and therefore is not of Christ.

[@marietav7342]

The SSPX are in schism. Schism is defined refusal to submit to the Pope .... The SSPX do not submit to the Pope. They just acknowledge the pope as the pope but not his authority. They do their own thing according to what pleases them and accrdg to their personal interpretation of church teachings. Their acts are very protestant. CLEARLY and 100% they are in schism. Why do they deny this? To deny this is to lie!

[@kurtandrews5844]

It most certainly is a cult.

[@DominiCanes94]

Why did pope Francis grant faculties to a cult?

[@Staceekthesubmissivehelpmeet]

I was thinking about being one of them, but what scared me was the thought of disobeying Jesus. I felt hindered to join, then I found reason and theology, and I am so thankful for him! He has showed me that I was believing lies, thank the Lord I never posted what everyone else was posting about Pope Francis. I did my research, and I go straight to reason and theology before I even speak about something now. I don’t ever want to commit a mortal sin, since I converted I have not committed a mortal sin, and I’m thankful the Lord has kept me from sinning that bad! I suggest everyone go to reason and theology, he does a good job at searching the truth. 🙏🏼

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Praise God. Thank you for sharing!

[@mazikode]

How is the SSPX a cult and not Catholic?

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We never said it was a cult. We said there were a lot of aspects within it among its members, and many of its teachings. If you watched the video, then you would know that many have the attitude that women can't even leave the house without asking their husband to do anything. Also they reject saints that the Catholic church has officially canonized. They think the Divine Mercy Chaplet is from Satan even though it was from Jesus through Saint Faustina. A rejected Vatican 2 which is a worldwide ecumenical council that the church has proclaimed, and they say we don't need to follow it. They also have many people who say that if there is no Latin Mass, then you should stay home and not go to church at all, which is in itself a mortal sin and Disobedience again to the church. Due to these and several other reasons, the last three popes have said that they are in Schism and will remain there until they fix their heresies and submit to the authority of Rome.

[@mazikode]

@CatholicTruthOfficial I hope Rome can try and resolve these differences so that Catholics can unite. I think when. Arch Bishop Lefevre left the church he had valid concerns with Vatican 2 as you can see from.the way the new mass is so irreverent in many many parishes and people basically do what they want. I do sympathize with their concerns and I think this ladys story is an extreme case. We should try to unite them with the church.

[@bobsmith425]

Don't expect a real response from those who promote the post conciliar cult itself.

[@mazikode]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial the heading says becoming Catholic from a "cult of extremism"

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Mazi, there no doubt needs to be some reform, and to many churches there needs to be a more reverent Mass said, but that doesn't mean we should throw out the baby with the bathwater as the Archbishop did. Especially since he signed each and every document of Vatican II. We also worry about many of the problems in the church, liberalism, modernism, but we also trust in the church because Jesus said he would guide it into all truth to despite the devil trying to attack and destroy it as he always has. The Gates of Hell shall not prevail. Sspx would be a much powerful force for good if they stayed within the church and tried to fight the evils. Rather than becoming part of the problem.

[@rockroc1]

I love the Ordinariate! We are blessed with two wonderful parishes here in North Georgia. St. Aelred and St. Margaret of Scotland. ✝✝

[@iiffww]

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. May God's grace be with you 🙏

[@DjNC7]

Thank You Brian for this video. I used to watch a lot of "traditionalist" channels on social media and it started to lead me in the wrong direction, all they talked about was how bad pope Francis is etc. Thank God I saw videos of other priest address this problem with radical traditionalist and thats when I realized that I was going in the wrong direction. The pope is the pope and we have to honor him, by honoring him we honor Jesus Christ. Saint Catherine of Siena said that.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

You are very welcome! Praise God, you saw the light! 🙌

[@bobsmith425]

The Novus Ordo has become a cult club !

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Claims: 1 Facts: 0 Sources: 0

[@bobsmith425]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial No we have 50 years of facts !

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

No, you don't.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

By this illogical logic, Nicaea was wrong because there were 75 years of chaos and corruption following the Council.

[@andreeattieh2963]

The early Christians used statues to show the old testament and the life of jesus to children Thats not idolatry

[@atrifle8364]

35:34 “Sing, barren woman, you who never bore a child; burst into song, shout for joy, you who were never in labor; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband,” Isaiah 54:1

[@cbysngr1]

Bryan, you're constantly defending yourself in the comments that you never call the SSPX a cult, but at 0:15 you specifically say "the SSPX cult..." and the title of the video is obviously implying that the SSPX is a "Cult of extremism". Maybe it's time to stop denying it?

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

You are right. Sorry about that. That was not worded correctly. The point of the video and her experience, is that it has a lot of cult-like people and groups within it. Some lot of extremist beliefs. The Cult of extremism was in the thumbnail, and we changed the thumbnail at the very beginning because it was confusing and worded poorly.

[@Texas_Trumper_2]

@@CatholicTruthOfficialThe title still says "cult"

[@bobsmith425]

Why is it that these novus Ordo ignorant guys never allow an SSPX priest on to refute their claims. They fear being expose for the frauds that they are !

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We have invited the top sspx apologists to have a formal debate on our channel. Please don't blame us for their refusal to debate us. We even invited Bishop schneider. We invited Kennedy Hall multiple times. Crickets. That says everything.

[@bobsmith425]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Lol. Would gladly send you a good number of the SSPX clergy and other apologists who would demolish any argument you put forward. If a simple layman like myself could do it blind folded imagine what an SSPX priest could do !

[@bobsmith425]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial What is more is that the SSPX has already answered on its KZbin channels, books, clips, articles those points made many times over. How about you take the time to read them sometime ! What is more if they are given ordinary faculties they are de facto Catholic !

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Sure they did. They didn't answer anything except for their own justifications of it, ignoring of papal documents, removal of papal authority, and more justifications and rationalizations. We have to sweep many documents under the rug in order to have their side of a story. Like we said, we invited the top apologists and crickets. I know you're emotional about this, but we will pray for you. Also they were given temporary faculties. And Pope Francis said it was an act of Mercy for the people who were ignorant in there and don't know better, but he should have said this should not be mistaken for removing their schematic status or that anything has changed in regard to their status.

[@jaimemorgan5323]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial The Holy See promised to consecrate bishops for the SSPX, but put off doing so for many years, despite visiting various missions, religious houses, schools, and parishes, and giving nothing but positive feedback and encouragement. According to the Code of Canon Law 1983, excommunication 'Latae Sententiae' is null and void if the person in question believes the situation was of a desperate nature that necessitated the action (consecrating bishops/receiving that consecration). Lefebvre explained on multiple occasions to the Holy See that as his health declined and his lifetime was drawing to a close, he would be forced to perform the consecrations they did not fulfill their promise in a timely manner. Why the Holy See chose to force Lefebvre's hand is anyone's guess. According to the Code of Canon Law, all that is required is that Lefebvre BELIEVED it was a necessary action; and he always firmly maintained that belief, whilst proclaiming his acceptance of the authority of the Papacy, and his wish to remain in full communion with Rome. Assuming that an excommunication Latae Sententiae did take place (many Canon lawyers disagree), the Congregation of Bishops formally remitted the excommunication of the four bishops, and invalidated the original Decree and sanctions, in a Decree dated 2009. So at the very least, since 2009, any claim of excommunication or schism has been invalid and untrue. Pope Pius V's papal bull Quo Primum clearly states that a sanction placed on any priest for celebrating the TLM - or on any lay person for attending or requesting the TLM - is null and void. Likewise, that no priest requires a special permission (indult) in order to celebrate the TLM which Pius V codified as the exclusive rite of the Catholic Church in perpetuity. ... Which of the documents you allude to negate these - Quo Primum, the Code of Canon Law, and the 2009 Decree Remitting the Excommunications?

[@GenX-Trad]

Satan works hard to spread his lies. You helped him out here.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

How would you know? You didn't even watch the video. And if you did, then you should be able to give something more substantive and less protestant.

[@Rudolf-j1q]

I just have one question for you, the host of this channel, you always debunk, debate and slam people etc.. please tell me how many people have you let to Christ?

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

A very many people! Thanks be to God. 🙌 Also there's nothing wrong with the parking or debating. Jesus did that all the time as did Paul.

[@Texas_Trumper_2]

Calling them a "cult" isn't the best way to get them back into full communion.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We weren't saying they were a cold. But we were saying there were a lot of extremists and problematic opinions from groups and people are living. And we knew that the thumbnail could come across confusing, so we changed it right away. Thanks for the comment.

[@Texas_Trumper_2]

@@CatholicTruthOfficialThe title of this video says "cult"

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Ooops. Changed it.

[@williampickett-lh1rt]

This poisonous attitude has found its way among legitimate Latin Mass parishes and proponents. It's what led to the crackdown on it in "TC" (2021).

[@theresasmith3361]

Thank you for this important video. I have learned so much from your videos. I wonder how to get in touch with you, however. I went on your website seeking information on having a visit to our church but have not received any response, even after several times reaching out. This saddened me. Now it is too late.

[@AndrewDolder]

Regarding Mrs. Gordon's Ask Your Husband - I bought it so that I can audit it and perhaps have my wife read it if it backs up its claims theologically. I found enough problems with it that I did not recommend it. Basically: 1) The entire book over-relies on a selection from the Catechism of Trent. Problem is that Catechisms are merely teaching documents but not authentic Magisterium. And besides, the Catechism of Trent reads as a recommendation of how wives should act, not as a mandate. 2) The real Magisterium simply says that the husband should never force his wife to work a career away from the home, especially when there are kids to raise. 3) Also, there was over-reliance on Sola Scriptura to interpret scripture. But we're Catholic, and Sola Scriptura is false. We have a Magisterium for a reason. That said, I do think it is good for a husband to try to do his best to provide for the family. If the wife wants to do more, good for her. I'll never hold it against her, and nor should I.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Well said. Thank you for sharing.

[@lostindimension2787]

1. The Catechism of Trent is magisterial, and was written by St. Robert Bellarmine on the orders of St. Pius V. 2. That's not what the book says, does it? 3. Why would there be sola scriptura if it uses the Catechism of Trent (A document written by a DOCTOR OF THE CHURCH)

[@adinesantos1]

I was led to an SSPX church ( probably by the Holy Spirit and/or my guardian angel) after attending an ecclessial TLM mass on and off for months and wanting to also attend daily mass. My very first SSPX mass had such effect on me that I quit cold turkey on NO masses. I didn’t even knew the SSPX, never talked with anyone - not even a priest. After my first confession and spiritual direction, I felt so grateful to God for this great providence and manna from heaven. Their masses truly are like Abel’s offering to our Lord. They never pushed me to reject recent Saints’ canonization, Divine Mercy chaplet or modesty in women. But when I truly surrendered and ask God for guidance, I discerned no error in their teachings. I accept that the FSSPX are real shepherds ordained by God to speak the Truth of our Catholic Faith. I pray for your discernment as well. Only a holy man like Archbishop Lefebvre can foresee the crisis in the Church at the onset of Vatican II.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

This is no better than people who leave a protestantism and find that they are fed and their lives are changed. It's emotional. What's factual and unchanging is that the sspx are in Schism and they don't have any licit sacraments or ministry.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

The Archbishop died outside of the Catholic church and might be in hell. So be careful upholding him.

[@adinesantos1]

It is highly unlikely that the Archbishop is in hell. But hell is always a possibility for all of us, still living thus we never cease praying and imploring the heavens for mercy. St. Athanasius, pray for us.

[@marcelw6045]

Unsubscribing

[@AndrewDolder]

Reasons cited: zero. Engage the content.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Well said andrew. People unsubscribed and stopped following Jesus also sadly.

[@TimTM-b2b]

Just subscribed

[@Texas_Trumper_2]

The title of this video still says "Cult of extremism", did you mean to change that?

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Doh! You're right. I didn't realize that. I changed it. Thank you for letting me know.

[@Texas_Trumper_2]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial You're welcome!

[@jazzmandolin5004]

Fr. Chris Alar from Divine Mercy just did a good break down of SSPX and it' status recently. Worth checking out.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We've done two videos on the subject quoting every document available including information people had not seen to date. 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKnLiGx9nbJqprs 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-ydJZrqppkZ9E

[@jazzmandolin5004]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Just to be clear my comment wasn't meant as a criticism

[@AnaMT1985]

Not to pick a fight but unfortunately Fr Chris left out a ton of relevant info like the fact that there is actually documentation from the Church regarding their schism. St a John Paul the II first declared their schism in Ecclesia Dei Afflicta in 1988…. And both of the following Popes have reiterated that point.

[@elenasiskova8566]

What a wonderful woman! It is so sad that people are going nuts like this. I know few like that….I am trying to use my common sense.

[@AmbiguousMotion]

They fully obey Catholic Church. They are in communion with what was taught throughout ages. What is a „radical traditionalist” anyway? Either you keep to it or not.

[@dmech7171]

😂😂😂No they are not, you lying hell bound dumb demonic bastard

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Clearly you are not informed on this and have not watched the video sadly. You cannot possibly say they are in communion with the church or that they fully obey the church. Play specifically teach that many of the Saints the Catholic church has said our canonized to saints, are not. So they teach the opposite of what the Catholic Church teaches. Mini also teach that you should stay home if you can't go to a Latin Mass and not go to a Novus Ordo. They're promoting mortal sin. A quick overview of their website shows all of their Disobedience against the Pope and condemnation of Vatican II which they do not accept. That alone shows they don't accept everything. Is really very little difference between them and the Orthodox.

[@AmbiguousMotion]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial They are perfectly right in all they teach, their excommunication has been revoked by Benedict XVI so they ARE IN COMMUNION and are not a sect as you seem to be preaching here. They can easily go disagree with certain decisions of the Dicasteria or even Pope when the reason is valid defence of the Deposit of Faith, also the virtue of obedience must not be blind and is not unconditional.

[@ServusChristi777]

So we have a dilemma then. Either we cling to the current papacy, and therefore accept all of its errors, or continue practicing the faith as it has always been practiced, and suddenly be “non-Catholic”. Seems like a no win situation.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

When you don't have the papacy, you don't have the church. Think about it. What's the difference between catholics, orthodox, and protestants. They don't have the papacy and they don't follow it and they don't listen to it. Also you have to trust Jesus. You don't. Jesus will not let the church fall into error. So there are no heretical errors. There are in the sspx though who are in schism. My friend, you can trust to the church. Because you can trust jesus. Jesus said he would send his holy spirit to guide the church into all truth. Not some truth. All truth. That doesn't mean everything that people in the church do or say are going to be good, and we know from the history of the church that many bad things have been done and said, but Christ protects the doctrine of the church always.

[@ServusChristi777]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial So should we reject errors that come from the Holy See?

[@vievee2000]

​@@CatholicTruthOfficialThen why have the last 4 Popes refused to take the OATH to protect Church Doctrine that the previous 262 Popes took.

[@ServusChristi777]

I find it very hard to understand why you would distinguish the SSPX from Catholicism. They literally practice the faith as it has been practiced for millennia. Are you suggesting there were no Catholics before the Second Vatican Council?

[@JWellsUp]

Have faith. I’ll pray to God for you. May God’s will be done. Amen

[@rubenmartinez4346]

I love how the comments backfires on Bryan. You’re a good guy but you are clueless with the SSPX. You must be friends with Michael lofton…oh wait…

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We are not clueless at all. Just saying we are doesn't mean we are. You're going to have to offer facts and evidence. God bless

[@rubenmartinez4346]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial yes you will. You have yet to prove the SSPX is schismatic. The fact that the SSPX receives faculties from the Rome proves you are wrong.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We've already proven that the sspx is schismatic in several videos. With actual documentation, papal documents and excommunications. The last three popes have said they were in schism. So honestly, it's not even a question or a discussion. But you can check out our videos on it for facts. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKnLiGx9nbJqprs kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-ydJZrqppkZ9E

[@rubenmartinez4346]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial and from those previous videos I’m still waiting on you to provide official Vatican document stating such schism.

[@JayRolo]

After discovering the FSSP church 40 minutes from me back in February, I only go there. It's perfect. I've never been to an SSPX church but I was interested in going one day just to see if there's a difference.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

FSSP is good! 👍

[@AnaMT1985]

@@JayRolo the difference is that the FSSP are in Communion with the Church and the SSPx are in schism. Other than that there is no difference in the Liturgy they say.

[@LuxMaria-p2z]

There’s some cult like people and attitudes in the FSSP also unfortunately!

[@AnaMT1985]

@@LuxMaria-p2z true….

[@SaltyPalamite]

@@LuxMaria-p2z And there are Bergoglian cultists like Bryan Mercier, who supports blessings for ghey couples.

[@NormaHein-is8le]

I am a Novus Ordo Catholic and I have attended the SSPX Catholic Church on several occasions and it is not a cult. How sad to hear you two talk about the SSPX Catholic Church this way. This Church is taken from before the Novus Ordo so you are actually stating that all the people from before the Novus Ordo who attended the Latin mass were in a cult, the church that our Lord Jesus Christ gave us. I have never heard any of this at the SSPX Catholic Church and to assume and to say that they are all this way is ludicrous. Yes, they ask the woman to dress modestly and they don’t condemn you if a woman wears pants to Church. The SSPX is the way the Catholic Church was before the Novus Ordo Mass was established. Maybe if all or at least most of our traditions were kept in tact with the New Order of the mass, maybe our Church and our world would be a better place today. You cannot say that ALL SSPX Churches are this way, I have been to some Novus Ordo masses where I actually wondered IF it was Catholic or Protestant, so like anything, they are not all the same! God Bless you both and welcome to our Catholic family!

[@davidcole333]

By the same token, Norma, you cannot say that you lived this woman's experience. I would assume you have not attended every sspx church out there.

[@atrifle8364]

10:38 From online travels, I find that radical traditionalists are not particularly interested in Scripture or oddly even thr catechism at times. I have quoted Jesus Himself from the Gospels and they don't seem to care. It's weird.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Very bizarre.

[@kurtandrews5844]

They run from scripture. They actually think that reading and studying scripture is Protestant.

[@HAL9000-su1mz]

There is almost the soft idolatry of Liturgy and language.

[@stevedoetsch]

Every Catholic is by definition traditional; if you are not then you are not Catholic at all. Sadly, you guys live in a mindless echo chamber. Who are these supposed "radical traditionalists" who reject Scripture? It's just weird how you chase ghosts, and invent people to hate. Is it to generate a feeling of superiority the same way Leftists label others as haters?

[@JuanDiegoUlate]

This is ABSOLUTELY OBSURD! I studied Apologetics and Church History for 5 years before going to the SSPX and most people at my Priory are well versed in Scripture and the sermons every weekend are NOT on the evils of the new Mass. This is hilarious. You all can find any SSPX Mass broadcast and hear the actual sermons only and see this is all a false, it's literally demonic lies! God help these people for their slander!!!

[@leroymalony]

Novus ordo goers are declining in US EUROPE traditional faith is what people want and they are coming back to it u can say what u want but tlm attendance is growing strong against islam rising in the west

[@Irishman8787]

Glad she turned to the true faith and the true church may God bless her and may God's mercy be extended to all , and praying for the conversion of all poor sinners. Lord Jesus son of the living God have mercy on us !

[@chrisarmon1002]

Can you tell me is there any catholic authority that debts SSPX is Catholic? Then what are they a cult? But then the pope allows this cult faculty’s ? lol even Rome would never agree with such a claim

[@quindariousgooch88]

its the same faith...

[@alelilaceda3539]

Amen🙏🏻💖

[@johnchrysostom330]

In the Philippines, there are those who call themselves FSSPX (not FSSP) but surely they're SSPX.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Yes, they are. The Counterfeits.

[@jaimemorgan5323]

Both acronyms are from the Latin: FSSP = Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri (or The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter) FSSPX = Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Pii X (or The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X) The latter is more commonly shortened to SSPX, but FSSPX is also correct.

[@jacksoncastelino04]

God Bless The SSPX

[@theien5929]

Brian is drifting over near the edge again. Take a good look at what Francis and many of the prelates are actually doing to appease the world. And look at what some permit their presbytery to do. We must consider if it is they who are straying from the apostolic faith.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Claims: 1 Facts: 0 Sources: 1 (yourself)

[@chrisarmon1002]

@@CatholicTruthOfficialso to make it clear. 1. You can’t name any church authority to claim we aren’t Catholic. ( fact ) 2. Pope allows faculty to a cult ? Then what religion is SSPX? lol you do realize you’re saying the pope is allowing faculty to a non Catholic right? Make it make sense

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Yes we can. many in fact. We did two whole videos on this subject. Schismatics are not Catholic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKnLiGx9nbJqprs kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-ydJZrqppkZ9E

[@chrisarmon1002]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial your videos are just your videos. Would you like sources from different priest, sources, bishops, saying they’re not in schism. BUT? You’re saying we aren’t Catholic lol

[@atrifle8364]

​@@chrisarmon1002- The test of Catholic is obeying the Holy Father.

[@rexelliott4558]

It would be interesting to see a debate between Bryan and Tim Gordon. Tim presents himself as a Thomist philosopher who's too infatuated with $0.50 words more so than explaining himself with clarity. I find his content as interesting and his arguments are well thought out, but he goes largely unchallenged on his own platform. A debate with a learned interlocutor who's well-grounded in the faith would be enjoyable.

[@senator967]

,,From SSPX to Catholic!,, What?! What nonsense. Ignorant, read literature. Especially what Rome itself writes about the SSPX and grants privileges to descendants and to perform sacramental marriages. I guess such privileges are given to "one's Catholics". Start the logic. And stop pretending to be a "prophet", which is unfortunately visible

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

When you only listen to one side, you only know one side. We have studied both sides and we know that the Pope and the last three popes have said that the sspx are in schism. John Paul II made it clear that they were in Schism with no ifs, ands, or but's. Pope Francis said that giving them faculties was an act of Mercy for the people in that organization that didn't know, but he said it didn't change their schematic status.

[@vievee2000]

​@@CatholicTruthOfficialI absolutely agree, I had only listened to one side my entire life and thanks to a merciful God during the lockdowns of 2020 at age 63 for the first time through much prayer and gifts of discernment I researched what had been cleverly hidden for decades from 98% of Catholics. Clearly you have not done the research for yourself or learnt your Catholic Faith, but have believed and trusted the Clergy as I did. Many are called few are chosen. Happy are they with eyes to see and ears to hear. God will not be mocked or have false IDOLS bought into his Holy Church, and he does not sell Chinese Catholics to the Communist party for annual income. Jesus bound cord in righteous anger and drove them from his FATHERS house. Catholics are waking up all over the WORLD to all the Wolves in Sheep's clothing so Thankyou for your great contribution and James Martin, and Wilton Gregory, and Ted Mcarrick, and Fernandez, Rupnik and Francis, you have opened the eyes of many Catholics who were asleep. God is so wonderfully Good.❤🙏💖🙏❤

[@TimTM-b2b]

@@vievee2000if you believe in Jesus you should have listened to and obey his chosen rock in Matthew 16:18. Insulting the pope is like insulting the Holy Spirit making decisions along with the pope. The pope has publicly rejected gay marriage and women ordination but people keep pushing the false narrative that he promoted such. It’s amazing the pope can endure this suffering.

[@vievee2000]

@@TimTM-b2b You obviously don't pray the Holy Rosary Daily,. ❤

[@TimTM-b2b]

@@vievee2000 I do at least 2 rosaries a week and whenever I can or remember. I need to do more for the conversion of souls. Satan is roaming everywhere nowadays.

[@fschutt247]

"Let not a woman wear men’s clothes nor a man use women’s clothes. For they are abominable with the Lord who do such things." - Deuteronomy 22:5 "Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice-nor do the churches of God." - 1 Cor 11:13-16 "The Church is the house of God. It is forbidden for men to enter with bare arms or in shorts. It is forbidden for women to enter in trousers, without a veil on their head, in short clothing, low necklines, sleeveless or immodest dresses." - St. Padre Pio "In order that uniformity of understanding prevail in all institutions of religious women.. we recall that a dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers' breadth under the pit of the throat, which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows, and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knees. Furthermore, dress of transparent material are improper" - Pope Pius XI, September 24, 1928 Just saying. While obviously a contrite heart matters more than the outside, I've seen a lot of feministic rebellion with women who outright refuse to wear veils or skirts. Women wearing pants is more of an issue for me because I cannot see how skin-tight jeans are supposed to be good attire when she is in front of me in line taking communion. Besides the fact that every guy I talked to prefers feminine, well-dressed women instead of pants-wearing ones, a skirt simply doesn't draw as much as attention to her behind as a trouser and the last thing I want to do at Mass is to fight temptations from other Catholics.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

What you're quoting is not even what the Catholic Church teaches. Recording certain disciplines that were for certain times and not doctrines or Dogmas. What you are talking about is not a Dogma or a doctrine.

[@fschutt247]

@@CatholicTruthOfficialBro I literally quoted the Bible and the pope himself, thats not what the Church teaches then what is? It is a condemned heresy to say that the teaching of the Church evolves or adapts to certain times, especially not Holy Scripture. If St. Paul says that a woman disgraces her head when not veiling that doesn’t suddenly go out of effect after 2000 years. If God himself says to Moses that it displeases God when men and women wear the same thing, he doesn’t suddenly change his mind just because in the 70s people stopped caring. It still displeases him, whether you like it or not.

[@adelbertleblanc1846]

Very relevant topic ! Thank You Brian. The Church does not need any new division or "elitist catholic" a priest is a priest everywere. The EUCARIST is the EUCARIST in every church. I agree with Pope Francis about this topic. God bless You all !

[@johnneiberd]

Novus ordo clown mass is not Catholic.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

No it's not. It's an abuse. There's nothing about clown masks in Vatican II. Not to mention you're talking about like 1% of all NO parishes. I'm a Catholic speaker who has traveled around the country to many states and many towns and countless churches and have never seen even one Mass that remotely resembles that.

[@Bowhunter777]

I agree 110% Nova Soto is completely wrong and would be considered a different religion 100 years ago

[@johnneiberd]

The mass of the "new order of the ages" is not Catholic. The fundamental propitiatory nature of the Mass has been stripped away entirely. It is nothing more than a protestant service that we erroneously call Catholic.

[@jessejones4609]

I’ve never been to a clown Mass, and my parish is a NO parish.

[@johnneiberd]

@@jessejones4609 novus ordo and children's entertainment are objectively synonymous in my opinion

[@michaelhodges2391]

Praise God

[@paul_321]

😳😳 did not know that about Timothy Gordon

[@roisinpatriciagaffney4087]

Hi Bryan, and Kirti. The programme was excellent. The New Age phenomenon has saturated the society, and we don't even know it. Also good to hear about the cultist behaviour of the SSPX, and it's ilk. Thank you, Bryan. Mirror of Justice, pray for us. Tim Gordon sounds more radical with each programme he produces, and his wife, Steph, has to almost scream from the corner to be heard. Seat of Wisdom, pray for us.

[@SaltyPalamite]

Don't listen to Bryan Mercier's lies. The Eucharist at an SSPX Mass is the actual body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ.

[@philotheake]

No one said it isn't.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

What you meant to say is you didn't even watch the video because you're commenting on something that was never even mentioned in this video. And then you accuse someone of lying when in fact you're slandering.

[@killianmiller6107]

Yea, and the Eucharist in an Eastern Orthodox mass is Jesus’s body blood soul and divinity.

[@joechriste7052]

Having the Eucharist does not mean that it isn't illicit.

[@dave_ecclectic]

Time stamp please?

[@SevereFamine]

I’m sure nobody will be triggered in the comments.

[@quindariousgooch88]

yeah its hard not to be angry when people falsely accuse others of being in a schismatic cult thats not even Catholic and that theyre doomed to hell, based off of their facebook theology

[@SevereFamine]

@@quindariousgooch88 You blaspheme by saying the teaching of the church herself is “Facebook theology”

[@SevereFamine]

@@quindariousgooch88 if you were in a schismatic cult, would you like to know? And would you prefer the church herself taught schismatics are totally fine and will be saved apart from her?

[@SevereFamine]

@@quindariousgooch88 even some Protestants claim to be the “true” Catholics that doesn’t mean we should lie to them. Would you advise I lie to you in contradiction to my conscience?

[@Cryptic_Llama]

Amazing testimony.

[@johnarellano8212]

Brian, you’re ridiculous the SSPX is not a cult lol

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We never said it's a cult. But there was a lot of cult-like extremism from many people within it. And even many of its teachings are extremists in nature as we talked about in this video.

[@AnaMT1985]

@@johnarellano8212 they most definitely are. They check every box that defines a cult.

[@quindariousgooch88]

​@@AnaMT1985"they are a cult because.... uhhh... they are a religion i dont like!"

[@AnaMT1985]

@@quindariousgooch88 hahaha 😂 you’re funny. They are a cult because they tick every single box of the characteristics of a cult. I was born and raised in the SSPX cult and more and more people who were raised in it are finding their way out of it back into the one true Church that the SSPx is not part of. Thanks be to God! ♥️

[@shellbackbeau7021]

They're protestants for sure though. They protest Rome, the Pope, and the Magesterium; that makes them protestants

[@strivingforheaven]

The SSPX factually IS Catholic.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Factually, they are in schism and separated from the Church and Rome.

[@sagekazuhira6013]

If you don’t submit to Rome and the seat of saint peter, you aren’t Catholic

[@chrisarmon1002]

I’m shocked he would even make such a nonsensical claim. Too bad no one from Rome would back up that claim “not Catholic” also! Schism. Again he’s saying we are in schism but we are allowed certain faculty is not even possible. Lol

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Exactly.

[@JeanMarieDuchesne]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial They are not, you are misrepresenting I'm afraid. HH Francis I himself and HH Benedict XVI said they are not in schisms. HH Francis I had a meeting with one of the SSPX Bishops recently on the building on a immense parish in Northern Mexico. Please look into this and I pray you recant your words later.

[@blancafigueroa8598]

Lamentable esta entrevista. La ignorancia es atrevida.

[@rodolfobracho8442]

Sikhi are very open minded, all the way back to their founder, guru Nanak. SSPX is in full communion with catholicism and the chair of Peter. We should stop putting lables like "cult", miss used here. They are no more a cult than the Franciscan Third Order or Opus Dei. Fanaticism can exist everywhere. Congratulations for thinking, in essence you are true to Sikhism. Most SSPX members as maintream catholics, are trying to understand our faith in the light of so many, I believe, confusing statements and acts from this papacy

[@coachp12b]

The Holy Spirit would never lead anyone to move to Atlanta. 😂 Jk lol

[@killianmiller6107]

Does Tim Gordon’s book ever mention Tobit’s wife? In the story, Tobit becomes blind and the family can only survive because his wife does woman’s work, ie selling textiles. Does this ever get talked about among trad women who think women shouldn’t work outside the home?

[@MrsYasha1984]

And i absolutely love how she rebukes him because Tobit is too proud to accept his wifes gift. In a way, his blindness forced the good man to be weak, and so God had opportunity to show him where he still had opportunity to grow. I so love that book😊

[@LuminousTwinHearts]

Duh? As far as SSpx is concern, they are not cult, they are in communions with the Church.. Sorry, Bryan Mercier.. I will sit this 1 out.. And I dont agree with this topic...

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We never said they were a cult. Maybe you shouldn't have said this one out. ;-) We said there are a lot of people in the sspx who have a cult-like mentality and who have extremist views on many different things. Even things the church doesn't teach. Also they aren't in communion with the church. The last three popes have said that.

[@marietav7342]

@@LuminousTwinHearts SSPX are NOT in communion with the Church because they reject V2 Council, NO Mass and the authority of V2 popes including Pope Francis. They do not submit to the Church/Pope but do their own thing. Schism is defined refusal to submit to the Pope. 100% they are in schism.

[@marietav7342]

@@LuminousTwinHearts SSPX are NOT in communion with the Church because they reject V2 Council, NO Mass and the authority of V2 popes and Pope Francis. They do not submit to the Church/Pope but do their own thing like the protestants. To be in communion with the Church/Pope, a catholic must not reject but accept the teachings of the Church which are binding. A catholic must submit to the authority of the Church/Pope.

[@marietav7342]

@@LuminousTwinHearts The SSPX are ton (reverse) in communion with the Church because they reject V2 Council, NO Mass, and the authority of V2 popes and Pope Francis. They do not submit to the Church/Pope and just do their own thing like the Protestant. To be in communion with the Church, catholics must not reject but accept the teachings of the Church which are binding.

[@marietav7342]

are not in communion with the Church because they reject V2 Council, NO Mass, and the authority of V2 popes and Pope Francis. They do not submit to the Church/Pope and just do their own thing like the Protestant. To be in communion with the Church, catholics must not reject but accept the teachings of the Church which are binding.

[@Johnaguirrehomeloans]

So the SSPX doesn't teach that women working outside of the home is a sin? That cant be substantiated in the least bit. Also, we do acknowledge the Pope, we are not schismatic so that's also an error. I suggest just going to an sspx mass and meeting the people before applying judgement based on one person's questionable interpretation of events to the entire order.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

You acknowledge the pope on paper not in reality which is why you don't obey or submit to his authority.

[@DarkAngel-cj6sx]

Can you talk about the Olympics please

[@immaculateheart1267]

I'm so glad I listened to this. I attend FSSP and I love the latin mass but as a single attractive woman I steer clear of the parishioners. They are not extreme and keep to themselves. I just dont want any issues with judgmental types, in case there are any because I don't need someone interfering with my worship and adoration of Jesus. I attend evening low mass. I'm grateful that for the most part, people are nice, keep to themselves, don't bother me and I get to spend deep meditative time with the Eucharistic Jesus. Trad people are not my people but trad mass is. Not sure how or why that is but it works for me. I'm not against Norvus Ordo but it just feels like a weaker form of liturgy and worship to me.

[@atrifle8364]

It maybe in part because the current missal is demanding attention in a way a Missal of 1962 Mass is not. Latin feels holy and is very meditative language to English speakers. However there's no need to meditate on what's actually being communicated at that moment. Someone can more easily choose to think about any aspect they desired, rather than the proclamations of the litgury itself.

[@dsonyay]

The disrespect towards Pope Francis is not only evident at SSPX parishes, but in my local diocese latin Mass community.. the only difference is the Priest does excellent homilies and never trashed the Novus Ordo Mass or the Pope. He does a Novus Ordo Mass just prior to the latin mass. (10am NO followed by a TLM at noon). He also does two weekday TLMs mixed in with tue other Masses. Unfortunately, many of the TLM attendees trash the Pope, NO, and feel SSPX is fine if our local diocese TLM is halted. Very cult-like I agree. Sure, I wouldn’t say this is a cult, but man, are they “out there”.

[@quindariousgooch88]

criticizing the pope isnt "disrespect", please stop watching michael lofton

[@Mariosilvagt3]

What if your wife is sick!? Is our duty as husbands to help our wives!

[@alexcanez-yn2ew]

Thank you for explaining sspx cult

[@Tylerbngjk]

Roman catholic church is the christian faith

[@dasfsadg]

Lotta SSPX cope in the comments

[@floraricemamul9979]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@jackieo8693]

These rad trads take things too far; however, working moms have been a terrible scourge on our society. Too many kids put in bad daycares or having abusive babysitters and it discourages large families.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

100%. We are not against moms who need to work, and many situations call for that, but there are too many people who make work their life and don't even want kids or just stick them in daycare when they don't need to.

[@jackieo8693]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial right, one needs to take a common sense approach.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Agreed

[@lightsc8310]

I disagree, with some things that are mentions about sspx. Theres nothing wrong on modesty, thats so sad that its mentioned as too much, being reveramt and being respectful to our husband's is not bad. I think this testimony doesn't apply to everyone its not fair that everyone that is reverent and love Latin mass is being labeled as extremist for loving God. Its nothing like that for all the women that veil.

[@lightsc8310]

I am unsubcribing this made me sad, this is one experience. I never experience this with sspx

[@AndrewDolder]

The things you mention are fine with Catholics. What you did not talk about was the pharisaical scrupulosity over modesty to the point of judging others. You did not mention that SSPX is in schism with Pope Francis. What is schism? Canon Law 751 tells us that "schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him." There is no salvation outside the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Light, we never said the testimony applied to everybody. We specifically said many times in there that it doesn't apply to everyone.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

Thank you Andrew for clarifying that. He also forgot that they don't accept the Divine Mercy chaplet, refused to submit to the pope, don't accept saints that have been officially canonized, and many other problematic disobediences.

[@marietav7342]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial Do sspx accept the canonization of St. Padre Pio? Is Padre Pio a saint for sspx?

[@chrisarmon1002]

Are you censoring my comment? If so why would you be dishonest and hire someone else’s position. Let’s analyze our logic behind the claim

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

We didn't delete any comments. Or censor any of yours. If you watch the video and comment accordingly there's nothing to worry about. If you just don't watch the video and spam comments then they might be deleted. We asked people to watch the videos and comment on them.

[@marietav7342]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial My comments disappear too or do not appear or they are not seen by other viewers and commenters but you. I will use my other yt account.

[@marietav7342]

SSPX are clearly in schism. Schism is defined refusal to submit to the pope. They do not submit to the pope. They just do their own thing according to what pleases them and according to their personal interpretation of church teachings. To deny this is to lie.

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

It's completely bizarre. I wonder if it happens on other channels too. Even our own comments disappear. And we find out later that they were never posted or were taken down and we have to write them again.

[@atrifle8364]

​@@CatholicTruthOfficial- Yes, the entire platform has a quite extensive automated censoring system. They don't advertise it, but it exists. Using enough keywords on certain topics will trigger it.

[@MaranglikPeterTo-Rot]

❤

[@puddleglum943]

Cultivating Catholic Feminism is an excellent branch of study that's emerged, the best I think, the most in line with the universal teachings of the church. It was created as an answer to St. Pope John Paul II's call for a "new feminism." It uplifts women without being like Marxist.

[@NoahMiller-j4d]

He was a jew, not a Catholic. He's one of the biggest heretics to ever exist. Feminism is literally a satanic cancerous movement.

[@NoahMiller-j4d]

Vatican II council is judaism pretending to be Catholicism. It's wrong.

[@AnaMT1985]

Children are a status symbol in radtrad culture.

[@atrifle8364]

Yes, unfortunately number of children can be a status symbol. I have also seen one or two large families that from the outside appear to have been irresponsible in terms of numbers thanks to health, money, and time challenges.

[@AnaMT1985]

@@atrifle8364 I’ve seen many families like that having been raised in the SSPX.

[@AnaMT1985]

@@SJ-f9i they are not idols though, because they are not treated with respect. It’s more like, the more children the holier you are….

[@shadowlancer45]

Feels like... are the SSPX now collaborating with the followers of MDM? They had similar goals except SSPX are more zealous.

[@chrisarmon1002]

I’m going to have to call out the absurd title. I’ll break this down. 1. So no one from Rome would claim SSPX is not Catholic. Literally this is I heard such an absurd claim. 2. Then he’s saying a non Catholic the SSPX has faculty’s as the pope allowed. Meaning the pope is in a “partial” communion with heretics. That can’t be possible. 3. People can someone look it up and where in the world does someone go to “sspx to Catholic” it’s a contradiction. Truly this page has gone even against even what Rome would say lol

[@CatholicTruthOfficial]

The SSPX are in schism and therefore not part of the Catholic Church. Schismatics are not Catholic. We have two videos explaining this. 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKnLiGx9nbJqprs 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-ydJZrqppkZ9E Or a short version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZzdmGmGjNmWrpY The Pope allowed faculties _and made it clear_ that this was an act of mercy for the innocent people in there who don't know better but does not change their schismatic state. We quote all of this word for word in the videos above. Pope Benedict has said that they have no licit or active ministries until they fix their heresies and submit to Rome. They have done neither.

[@chrisarmon1002]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial I know you have your claims of schism. 1. That’s a CONTRADICTION! You can’t give faculty to a schismatic groups. 2. Now here is where it’s not adding up. NO! One from Rome would deny we are Catholic. Yet you’re making this claim. So if you can send any authority deeming us not Catholic ? 3. With schism groups we know what they’re. Example eastern orthodox are schism. They’re from the Eastern Orthodox CHURCH. SSPX is not called a church and if they were in schism why not just call it a church ? Why is it the bishop goes and asks permission from the pope. 4. This is also why! We are called “irregular” this term is no used to Anyone else. Now I can send many sources not just from SSPX sources but church authorities who are in “communion” who never take the claim as your videos do.

[@dariaschooler]

@@CatholicTruthOfficial if they were in schism there would be no communication with the pope. Self referencing your own videos is as credible as the pope citing his own writings for his decrees and not the full magisterium.

[@marietav7342]

@@chrisarmon1002 The SSPX are CLEARLY

[@marietav7342]

in schism. Schism is defined refusal to submit to the Pope ..... and they do not submit to the pope. They just do their own thing according to what pleases them and according to their PERSONAL interpretation of church teachings. Their act is very protestant.