From the Black Prison to Occupied Territories: The Sahara's Forgotten War (Part 4)

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@crackage12567
@crackage12567 10 жыл бұрын
That's absoloutely shocking. This series has been really educational, I had no idea any of this was going on.
@Salaheddine020
@Salaheddine020 10 жыл бұрын
This is completely bias. Have you heard 1 just 1 moroccan voice in these videos? NO! To reach a conclusion you have to at least hear the other side. The Polisario have also captured Moroccans and imprisoned and tortured them. There are plenty of sahrawi's who support Moroccans and who feel Moroccan. Even the father of the Polisario president is anti-polisario. He supports Morocco and feels moroccan. Shame on you VICE for not telling the Moroccan story! SHAME ON YOU!
@nmn335
@nmn335 10 жыл бұрын
***** show the link please
@xXTocsinXx
@xXTocsinXx 10 жыл бұрын
Salaheddine020 i think the reason why they haven't shown a Moroccan to get their point on this situation is because the media isn't allowed in Morocco. though i could be completely wrong. sure its one side of the story but it is for the reason that the other side doesn't allow media.
@Salaheddine020
@Salaheddine020 10 жыл бұрын
xXTocsinXx Well the media is not totally free in Morocco I agree. But Moroccans are well aware of this situation and still continue to support a Moroccan Sahara. Western media have portrayed the Sahara question again and a again. But this is the first time the Moroccan argument is not relevant at all. It is like interviewing nazi's without asking America about their story. Also what is wrong is that most of the people in the world know nothing about this issue. Upon seeing this video they will accept this bias message as a truth.
@xXTocsinXx
@xXTocsinXx 10 жыл бұрын
Salaheddine020 that is true. but either way you look at it. occupation is wrong weather its Morocco or any other country.
@rock3tcatU233
@rock3tcatU233 10 жыл бұрын
Listen what happened to these people is unacceptable, but even then it is better for the Western Sahara to stay part of Morocco. What are they going to do if they are independent? The WS on its own has no economic viability. Just join forces with Morocco and share your strengths instead of continuously trying to divide the Islamic world even further.
@Borjigin.
@Borjigin. 10 жыл бұрын
Their people have shown they can survive with the most basic resources. And another one of these videos talked about how Morocco makes a lot of money off fishing and resources in the WS.
@ayouberrami3133
@ayouberrami3133 9 жыл бұрын
+Borjigin you think they gonna profit from that fishing? it's all gonna go to those GENERALS who are pushing them from behind the scenes.
@ayouberrami3133
@ayouberrami3133 9 жыл бұрын
+rock3tcat (ⵙⴰⵔⵓⵅ) Firtly, i defenetly wouldn't believe all of what i'm seeing here. What happened to them you said? But how a group who threaten the unity of a country should be treated.
@zeronixata4545
@zeronixata4545 4 жыл бұрын
@@Borjigin. look how morocco invest in Sahara more than what he won from it another thing Sahara was always moroccan please revise history
@mohamedwaititi6192
@mohamedwaititi6192 Жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming
@revinhatol
@revinhatol 9 жыл бұрын
NEVER AGAIN WILL MOROCCO DO ANY HARM TO THE SADR FOR WHAT ITS ALLY THE USA DID TO MY COUNTRY OF THE PHILIPPINES!
@freewal
@freewal 8 жыл бұрын
Fuck you. Fuck all enemies of Morocco.
@revinhatol
@revinhatol 8 жыл бұрын
freewal There will be no escape for you in the name of Charlemagne!
@revinhatol
@revinhatol 8 жыл бұрын
freewal EVER!!
@freewal
@freewal 8 жыл бұрын
revin hatol hahahahahaha LMAO
@hauzasmara
@hauzasmara 10 жыл бұрын
We Sahrawi occupied areas are tired of torture and abuse practiced on us and on our mothers by the Moroccan invasion We want independence want independence He lived the Saharawi people Thank you 'VICE news' you for breaking and smashing the media blackout imposed on the suffering of the Saharawi people, and to remind you of all people to our cause forgotten
@Salaheddine020
@Salaheddine020 10 жыл бұрын
You will never get our land. The Moroccan Sahara will be Moroccan until the end of times. Come and join Khalili Ben Mohamed Al-Bachir Rguibi, the father of the polisario president. The polisario's presidents father lives in Morocco with a part of his family and is a member of the Royal Advisory Council for Saharan Affairs. We love our Moroccan sahrawi brothers! We hate separatist!
@Rasd2424
@Rasd2424 10 жыл бұрын
Salaheddine020 western sahara freeeeee longe live western sahara
@Etupao
@Etupao 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Ilikepie97100
@Ilikepie97100 10 жыл бұрын
You guys should do this forgotten war segment on the conflict in West Papua next.
@mostafahaida3042
@mostafahaida3042 6 жыл бұрын
viva sahara maroccaine
@djidji5127
@djidji5127 4 жыл бұрын
No
@aymanehajji5347
@aymanehajji5347 11 ай бұрын
​@@djidji5127 womp womp
@ZackJ721
@ZackJ721 10 жыл бұрын
That guy sure picks his nose a lot for a spy. He's also not so good at being secretive about it. Just standing in the street, creepin, picking his nose.
@thethreeamazingmen
@thethreeamazingmen 10 жыл бұрын
its morocco, what do you expect? morocco has LOADS of secret police, its a big thing there, i was there before and its well known that the alot of police are plain clothed and ill trained
@holdmybeer
@holdmybeer 10 жыл бұрын
He's probably high on opiates. They make your nose itch.
@ZackJ721
@ZackJ721 10 жыл бұрын
tummy lice oh, I am familiar. As it happens, I'm a recovering addict with 4 years under my belt (pills, not junk, though it's not much different) Now that you mention it, it does look a lot like that, doesn't it?
@holdmybeer
@holdmybeer 10 жыл бұрын
I know from experience ;) glad to say I'm clean now.
@moorofyorkshire
@moorofyorkshire 7 жыл бұрын
fake news
@issam2901
@issam2901 9 жыл бұрын
the problem with these documentaries is that they show you one side of the story.....I imagine as the second world War you can't know who is right germans or americans until you hear both sides of the stories.This is not journalism.Every side has its own story.So please before judging do hear what moroccans have to tell.
@issam2901
@issam2901 8 жыл бұрын
+Adil Belmokaddem Thanks for letting me know! Next time I'll make sure that no one gets raped...Oooh is this the video about the Sahara? I don't follow
@adilbelmokaddem6667
@adilbelmokaddem6667 8 жыл бұрын
Issam Mani I'm not making fun of those innocent children at all, I felt angry when that pedophile was set free, despite that I'm not Morrocan ;)
@issam2901
@issam2901 8 жыл бұрын
+Adil Belmokaddem look man, I'm saying that no matter what you should be objective this serie about the Sahara is not because it doesn't show Morocco point of view.....I have my own opinions you do too and I respect that but this kind of journalism I don't like. I don't like to be manipulated by the press by showing us what they want us to believe.
@adilbelmokaddem6667
@adilbelmokaddem6667 8 жыл бұрын
Issam Mani They're telling nothing more but the truth, as an Algerian I've never looked into this matter, but after watching the photos of beating and torture I understand now what kind of quest these sahrawi people stand for. salam
@edwardbernayse6665
@edwardbernayse6665 10 жыл бұрын
was part 3 too graphic for you tube? i didn't see it on the playlist. they did the same thing with the coverage of mali and when i looked it up on another service, it was the most graphic war coverage that i have ever seen in my whole life.
@RiotHouseLP
@RiotHouseLP 10 жыл бұрын
I remember being a tourist back in my high schools years in 1997. I was in Morroco because it was an option on my tour of Spain. I remember they did not let us take any pictures whatsoever. Being an American I took photos anyways for as many times as I could get away with it ;). There was lots of poverty, little children rushing groups of tourists to sell them anything and everything, oh man and the fish market was....a sensory overload. I was 16 at the time and that was my first real experience of utter poverty up close and personal, it was pretty shocking to me at the time, now however I recognize it as the norm for much of the world. When they say there is a media blackout they are correct, it goes back at least from my knowledge to 1997 probably much longer than that.
@OuBnl
@OuBnl 4 жыл бұрын
Euh .. Poverty exists everywhere , yet here in Morocco , there are no corpses in the subway station , no killing of black people by the police , no homeless people at every corner of every street , no bigot and misogynistic president ( Trump) , no cannibals nor serial killers ( Jeffrey Dahmer , ed gein ...) , no school shootings .... like your dear America !
@amountoutank6176
@amountoutank6176 2 жыл бұрын
You see my friend, colonialism is imposing us to buy very very expensive American and western weapons to fight for problems created by colonialism itself, American can have good salaries in the factories that made the weapons, F35, F16,.... And the people of our lands have to fight with these weapons against Russian weapons used by Algerians. This is the game. Continue enjoying but don't forget, poor people in the US choked me too, in New York or Miami or LA. They are in worst situation compared to ours.
@mahmudalli6415
@mahmudalli6415 3 жыл бұрын
Viva el Sahara occidental ❤❤🇪🇸🇪🇸
@absav3097
@absav3097 3 жыл бұрын
Viva!! 🇪🇭🇪🇭
@faysalsoma3213
@faysalsoma3213 5 жыл бұрын
i m a sahrawi moroccan citizen and sahara is moroccan by geografic and history those people they are algerian not sahrawi
@anttikokko7209
@anttikokko7209 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so ashamed of my Moroccan government.
@absav3097
@absav3097 3 жыл бұрын
We love Moroccan people, we don’t have any problem with Morocco people. But we hate the government. The only thing we want is be free! 🇪🇭🇪🇭
@jackal25301
@jackal25301 2 ай бұрын
​@@absav3097 Moroccan government is the Moroccan people you can't be our friend if you hate our government so leave us alone
@XMinecraftxBuildersX
@XMinecraftxBuildersX 10 жыл бұрын
How many times does the U.N. need to be notified of the human rights violations in the occupied territories? Really this has been going on to long..... the U.N. should have taken action by now.
@aliloudas2129
@aliloudas2129 6 жыл бұрын
Vive le polisario
@salahdin007
@salahdin007 2 жыл бұрын
They have been offered an autonomous region with their own government within the territory of Morocco, they should have accepted it.
@arnarviarsson2909
@arnarviarsson2909 10 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand the police, I just cant understand, and how people like violence so much, specially police under oath protecting people. This one 5:17 is having a great time letting his anger out.
@shidimc6429
@shidimc6429 6 жыл бұрын
Viva POLISARIO
@Doomer35
@Doomer35 10 жыл бұрын
what happened to Part 3?
@gonzotuni9707
@gonzotuni9707 10 жыл бұрын
Its sad to hear and watch !
@absav3097
@absav3097 3 жыл бұрын
Now you know who is the real oppressor
@samk41156
@samk41156 7 жыл бұрын
the moroccan police was doing this with all morocans people
@zakapuntas4698
@zakapuntas4698 4 жыл бұрын
bro all of this shit is not true as a Moroccan Saharawi this insult me and my country
@jamesrussel3288
@jamesrussel3288 10 жыл бұрын
Where's part 3?
@hichamhicham-tz9fs
@hichamhicham-tz9fs 3 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁😁 the people beaten by the police are Moroccan cutizen not sahraoui
@BahirAd
@BahirAd 7 жыл бұрын
Morocco made huge investments in Western Sahara with entire cities rising from the ground like Dakhla, Boujdor, a large chunk of Laayoun (all initially sparsely populated tent camps...), roads, Infrastructure etc. Out of 5 Million people today in Western Sahara only 250K people are native Sahraouis the rest aka more than 4,75 Million are mainland Moroccans industrious people who created businesses and built everything around there... this whole shtick is like rooting for an independent Bedouin republic in the Negev desert in Israel or having native american tribes take over the US or Canada...
@kobebyrd4457
@kobebyrd4457 10 жыл бұрын
Fucked up
@epiclegodude123
@epiclegodude123 10 жыл бұрын
i did not expect the man to speak spanish
@JDLife
@JDLife 10 жыл бұрын
Y is it at 3min. He is speaking spanish?
@morexco
@morexco 10 жыл бұрын
Really disappointed by the quality of this documentary which has failed to explain the basic historical knowledge surrounding this conflict. It is a one-sided, sensationalist, outdated polisario backed propaganda.
@brakaponter7386
@brakaponter7386 10 жыл бұрын
From a spaniard: Free Western Sahara!!!!! Viva el POLISARIO y la RASD One day we will see your land free of the moroccan ocupation. Un abrazo a mis hermanos saharauis!!!!!! Viva España!!!!!
@freewal
@freewal 9 жыл бұрын
+brakaponter VIVA CATALUNYA. VIVA SEBTA LIBRE. VIVA MELILIA LIBRE. VIVA PAIS VASCO LIBRE. FUCK FRANCO. FUCK COLONIALISM. LONG LIFE TO THE KING OF SPAIN AND THE KING OF MOROCCO.
@first00life
@first00life 7 жыл бұрын
3 years later, sahara is still moroccan and catalunia want its independence LMAO
@curtisneilson5829
@curtisneilson5829 10 жыл бұрын
What occupation
@curtisneilson5829
@curtisneilson5829 9 жыл бұрын
***** whats do people do for fun in that part of the 🌎
@curtisneilson5829
@curtisneilson5829 9 жыл бұрын
***** i will investigate
@omarchk
@omarchk Жыл бұрын
I am a big fan and follower of Vice media. I just discovered this series Honestly I find this work very amateur as it doesn't have research depth it sounds more like the journalist opinion than looking at the issue This conflict is more complex than it was advertised and I expected to see the origin of the conflict and why we are at this situation today I would agree that the violence is very bad and both sides did enough of atrocities.BUT the pictures or prisons and videos of police in this video were not taken in the Sahara Another remark is about one of the interviewees stated that before there was no borders and they could whereever they can go... Does it mean everywhere in the whole desert? How can a nomad living between Morocco and Sudan claim that specific part of Sahara and not another part ... I guess that was not covered by the journalist ?! I hope you Vice people review/proof
@dermaroc2008
@dermaroc2008 10 жыл бұрын
Close to war? As if the Algerians would allow them to go to war.
@samyamauchi2272
@samyamauchi2272 10 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they are speaking Spanish @2:50
@playbarbie4313
@playbarbie4313 4 жыл бұрын
They are
@wheezy-roblox5307
@wheezy-roblox5307 4 жыл бұрын
Cuz it's propaganda
@1997mexicano
@1997mexicano 10 жыл бұрын
How is it that some people are talking spanish?
@vonperignon2832
@vonperignon2832 10 жыл бұрын
Morocco is underneath Spain and has euro Spanish ppl living their.
@PolluxPavonis
@PolluxPavonis 10 жыл бұрын
Former spanish colony.
@JamesZombie144
@JamesZombie144 10 жыл бұрын
Because Spain is a giant whore with legs wide open for anyone and everyone.
@piratetv1101
@piratetv1101 10 жыл бұрын
Because western sahara was a Spanish province (not a colony) they had full rights as any other spanish citizen
@brakaponter7386
@brakaponter7386 10 жыл бұрын
Many of them speak spanish because until 1975 was a spanish colony, after that many went to study to Spain and Cuba, and every summer thousands of saharaui childs come to Spain to spend the summer with spanish families. It is very emotiv seeing them coming. We spaniards support them 100%. We want a Free Western Sahara. It is our historic obligation to them.
@DarkPhantomSky
@DarkPhantomSky 10 жыл бұрын
I hope the person that mutilated that woman got what he deserves. But I doubt it. Unbelievable, the pain these people have to go through...What a world we live in. It's a shame.
@maroland4826
@maroland4826 10 жыл бұрын
i am moroccan and before some stupid people start to judging this conflict and try to act as heroes i tell them to get back to history to see the map of morocco if this sahraoui want to have their sahraoui repulic may be tommorow some poeple from the mountains want to have their mountainy republic i am against the system of morocco i know its not emoracy and i condemn the torute and the brutality of moroccan police but the sahara is moroccan even their leader name is abdel aziz al marakechi thats mean hes originated from the city of marakech which is not in sahara their leader is not sahraoui those are working for algeria and spain to weack morocco
@soufianehayboub2652
@soufianehayboub2652 10 жыл бұрын
falsity falsity falsity Pictures from inside the prison is not in the desert it in Casablanca Morocco whole suffers from this overcrowding Report least that can be said about him failed, not literal It is our fault that we have allowed the entry of MINURSO and we sat down with them in the long, negotiations We had to follow what to do with Spain separatists In terms of striking security They beat unemployed in the north of Morocco, but the south Report funny actually why freshen up and went, but there From where I can make a better report it
@czarpeppers
@czarpeppers 10 жыл бұрын
Sigh.
@moseyrecords5570
@moseyrecords5570 10 жыл бұрын
"I love Moroccan oil (hair product) even if its over priced. I also love Moroccan shoes." That's what came to mind whenever I ran across the country on a Mediterranean map. This video, similar to bird poop, was unexpected.
@samuelbrennan1525
@samuelbrennan1525 10 жыл бұрын
The UN can't get the scope on the situation and effectively resolve the problem because the Moroccan government "doesn't allow the monitoring of human rights" in western sahara. The UN needs to act by forcing the Moroccan government lift this ban on monitoring and then send UN investigators to see the level of human rights abuse there is and stop the occupation peacefully.
@101wonderboy1
@101wonderboy1 10 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that these people haven't formed a Jihad group
@Korkinmaenkikkeli
@Korkinmaenkikkeli 10 жыл бұрын
do you even know what jihad means?
@br7561
@br7561 10 жыл бұрын
DERP
@umarabdalla6666
@umarabdalla6666 10 жыл бұрын
morocco claims the terr. as moroccan, as Uk claimed Ireland, as Apartheid S.Africa with Namibia, as Guinia with Cape Verde, as Indonisia with East Timor... imperialistic B.S. there are 2 way of solution: 1 peaceful solution that respect the right of W.S. people to self-determination as considered by International legacy & U.N. last 100 resolutions. 2: back yo war, & as saharaui living in refugee Camps i've got bored of waiting for the U.N. Goddot
@first00life
@first00life 7 жыл бұрын
Umar Abdalla except that morocco is claiming absolutely NOTHING lol the Polisario are the one claiming the land that was always under moroccan regime. Not our fault
@wireinthesnow9336
@wireinthesnow9336 8 жыл бұрын
Western Sahara is not Morocco .
@rachhachch8315
@rachhachch8315 6 жыл бұрын
Fucking lies , if it's true what about the independence of Catalonia , what about the independence of pask , what about independence of some part of France or uk , or Russia , or kabail and tawarik in Algeria
@edgarcano3934
@edgarcano3934 10 жыл бұрын
This is where the US should be sending its troops!
@christianramos3689
@christianramos3689 10 жыл бұрын
why? The everytime the US does something people hate them regardless. If the US doesn't do anything they are still painted the bad guys for doing nothing. Its stupid. Yet everybody goes crying to the US for aid and Military help and then denounce them once they get what they want. I say the US should save all the money they spend on foreign aid and military defense in the Pacific in Japan, Korea, and in Europe and from all those billions and billions of dollars they save; invest it back in their infrastructure. It would make current western would countries look like third world ones. Take for example. Germany has an awesome infrastructure and economy, why they spend money on them selves and their country. How? they only spend less than 2% of their GDP on their defense. The reason they do that is because the US Army is their acting as their deterrent. Once the US military leaves, That will force them to take funds from social projects and increase the defense budget. See what i mean. US money stays in the US. Simple way of advancing
@LawnGnomePower
@LawnGnomePower 10 жыл бұрын
Edgar Cano Although the situation is kinda sad, it's not the U.S.'s problem. It all sound good and all, but why should someone die for a foreign man's cause? I am pretty sure that most people in Western Sahara wouldn't want to fight for the U.S.
@ryanhowser5908
@ryanhowser5908 10 жыл бұрын
Morocco is a US ally so its not happening, EVER.
@first00life
@first00life 7 жыл бұрын
These people are socialists, they were trained in military camps in Cuba, they literally HATE the USA lol i doubt they want you by their side
@siaodong
@siaodong 2 жыл бұрын
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