Frontside/Backside in Skateboarding - BEST Explanation (Covers EVERY Situation)

[@miked.7245]

So once you understand that in regular, switch and fakie stances you're popping off your tail and in nollie stance you pop off your nose then you just have to ask which way your tail goes. If it goes towards your back it's back side. IN EVERY STANCE. Thinking about the direction you're traveling in makes this confusing. Just understand that when you pop fakie you are popping off your tail even though it's the front of your board.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Dude...

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

My mind just exploded...

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

This is basically the Grand Unification Theory for skateboarding. Thank you so much for showing me this!

[@miked.7245]

@@NeverStopImprovingSB I wish I could take credit for it. I think it was Chad Caruso that taught me that way of looking at it. I'm glad it helps.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

@@miked.7245 Well Chad's a legend so I believe it!

[@andyuribe7324]

Finally a regular stance youtube skater I’ve been confused with other riders bc of their goofy stance

[@Kuso319]

I'm quite the opposite. I can only find people with regular stances instead of goofy 😂

[@notyugi206]

⁠@@Kuso319me too 😂

[@dougnulton]

This title is on point dude, first time this ever made sense to me!

[@asheriyermusic]

When I heard My name is...my brain went Aron Kyro a sponsored skateboarder from the sanfransico bay area and to day I'm gonna teach you the difference between frontside and backside

[@skateordie9628]

So logic goes down the drain... Just when I thought I got it all figured out fakie completely ruins my theory. Damn you, whoever is responsible for these stance-names! Thank you Justin, I will keep these in mind. Luckily I am too much of a beginner to worry about this quite yet.

[@arturoramos4236]

To simplify it, for all stances, it matters which direction your popping foot is going. Front shuv in every stance is frontside. Back shuv in every stance is backside. With obstacles it goes by if its infront of you (frontside) or behind you (backside).

[@James-qv9ij]

This guy has you confused. You probably had fakie/nollie right.

[@boobjames6171]

That finally put to rest my confusion and stupidity thx mate u were explained that clearly and solidly good explanation video 👍

[@theryanoutdoors]

Best explanation for frontside vs backside ever! I landed a 180 and didn’t know which way I was doing it. I ended up doing it backside

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Thank you so much Ryan!

[@marcremigoso3440]

Why am i watching this, i need to study for tommorow's exam lull

[@stargarden2577]

If your exam is on skateboarding than you're set

[@rlvpf]

i hope it went well

[@bxman1659]

exellent , as usual

[@dizzod123]

Thank you so much!! Nice explanation!

[@Birdfl3w]

The 90 degrees definition helped immensely

[@TL-ib7ti]

I always thought of it as nollie being the one that didn't make sense for body/board turns. Think about it. A fakie frontside 180 is the same as a regular stanced frontside 180, just done riding backwards. A switch frontside 180 is.... not... the same same as a nollie frontside 180. When riding nollie, you have to pretend that you popped off the tail instead of the nose before you can name the trick. Think about it. It's the same reason why a nollie nosegrind is not called a nollie 5-0. You have to pretend that you popped off the tail like a regular ollie. Nollie is the oddball, not fakie. Great video regardless though!

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

That's fully valid TL, and it's a great way to think about it. Thanks for the really good comment, we need more conversations like this on here. Cheers!

[@perkuskamui]

T L exactly. I think this is a compromise of so many people being confused for decades, and now we have this inconsistent sloppy rule set

[@ChibiChubbyRobo]

T L that doesn’t make sense. You don’t have to ever switch spin terms, because “fakie” means backwards. It clears your need to switch terms inherently when a spin is fakie. To switch nollie spin terms is inconsistent in relation to your own stance.

[@DiCasaFilm]

Agreed. A nollie is technically a switch fake ollie. So, if you're going fakie (backwards), you are popping off the tail. So, in a nollie, you are popping off the tail. They should call it a sfollie, haha.

[@TL-ib7ti]

@@DiCasaFilm actually... performing a nollie you pop off the nose, but if you wanna describe the trick by name you need to pretend that you cracked it off the tail. Think about it. A nollie tailslide and a fakie tailslide are not mirrored manouvers, even though I think they should be. Whoever wrote this shit up did it to fuck with our heads. I totally agree with calling it a switch fakie ollie. Woulda made more sense

[@skateruwu]

Ayeee that's house park! I came for the nollie explanations cause no one at my local (just 30 mins south of that park you're at) can agree on which direction is front or backside from nollie

[@ericgensler8393]

Hell yea House Park, great vid man.

[@__AbAbe]

Eric Gensler house is the best

[@mixpascual]

Great content. Indeed, the BEST explanation. I still don't get it but, you know your stuff sir. NSISkateboarding ah layk!

[@fd_skate]

Thanks. Now I feel like a total noob for messing up the terminology regarding FS/BS half cabs. Guess it's never to late to learn. :) Great video!

[@budharpey]

best video on the topic

[@mario6148]

Austin skatepark :) I went there once to go skating and had a blast. I love the empty parking garage right next to it too. Worked on my powerslides there.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

House Park is hands down my favorite skatepark in Texas. Not even necessarily because of the obstacles or the pavement or anything, there's just always a good vibe there, and everyone rips!

[@mario6148]

I feel. My skatepark is Lewisville Railroad Complex if you've ever been there. Everyone there is like family.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Oh no, I actually haven't even ever heard of it! I've been to the park in Grand Prairie and the one in Allen, but never been to Lewisville. Looks so sick though, I will absolutely check it out next time I'm in Dallas; thank you for letting me know about it!

[@pdiddyp]

I go all the time

[@christianskate9899]

I'm glad u actually kno what a nollie shuv is unlike the whole skate community that thinks a nollie shuv is a nollie front shuv

[@TheAncientOak]

Great explanation, thanks. What skatepark were you riding here btw, looks sick?!

[@12317968]

After entire life of confuse...Thanks man

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Very happy to have been of assistance 👊

[@glom9995]

Great video!

[@Baked_And_Fried]

I know this video is 3 years old but at @3:40 isn’t that a nollie front shuv?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

That is unquestionably the trick that people get hung up on the most (as far as what to call it), and unfortunately, the 'correct' name is a nollie backside shuvit, but everyone will know what you mean if you say nollie front shuv, since you just say nollie shuvit if it's rotating the other way. Good catch man!

[@Baked_And_Fried]

NSI Skateboarding [Justin Lauria] thanks dude i get know I didn’t know I would get a response I appreciate it

[@betaii5569]

Thanks, i saw a tutorial that was so bad logical, that i didnt knew at all, so i was thinking that the grinds were bs or fs by the way you spin. Thanks ♥️

[@justahusk8151]

How does these terms work for fliptricks? How is a backside varial flip different from a frontside varial flip and so on?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Well first off, I think it should be noted that varial flips can only spin in one direction, so we don't use backside and frontside to describe those particular tricks. A varial kickflip in normal, fakie, or switch stance ALWAYS has a backside 180 rotation, and a varial heelflip in any of those stances always spins in a frontside rotation. But for other flatground tricks like bigspins and shuvits, you refer to the trick by the direction the board is spinning: backside for a regular footed skater is clockwise when viewed from above, and frontside would be counterclockwise, while backside for a goofy footed skater is counterclockwise when viewed from above, and frontside would be clockwise (if that's too many variables to think about, just know that it's the same direction that your body rotates for 180 ollies). Hope that cleared some stuff up for you, and let me know if not!

[@justahusk8151]

@@NeverStopImprovingSB That's very helpful. Just got into skating again after more than ten years off the board, and didn't care about these terms as a kid. So, basically what makes it frontside or bakside is determined by if you kick backward or forward with your back foot. Think I got it :D

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

@@justahusk8151 Yes sir, you're right on the money. Cheers!

[@James-qv9ij]

A varial flip is a shove it kick flip. A backside shove it kick flip is called varial flip. a frontside shove it kick flip is called a hard flip.

[@JamisonMyth]

@@NeverStopImprovingSB one minor inconsistency is nollie varial flip, since with nollie the normal shove it motion is called frontside. the varial flip still only spins one direction, but in nollie stance that direction is called frontside

[@airtrek1065]

great presentation of the info. :) subscribed

[@livelouie2436]

So if you do a nolly and ur ride regular your bacicly doing a olly but w your left foot ?

[@ianaxline7443]

The definition of front/backside with tricks not involving obstacles has to do with how the TAIL moves, not the skater. When nollie the tail is still considered in the back where your normal stance wound be, so nollie-frontside (blank) would be the back of the board moving in the forward direction. This definition of where the tail is also describes why if you do a nollie noseslide you pop with the nose and then slide on the front of the board (not a tailslide). When fakie, the tail is considered where your normal back foot is (because you are in your normal foot stance) and that's why it "doesnt make sense" in the definition described in the video. Fakie frontside (blank) is where the front of the board goes forward (your normal forward frontside motion) because thats your "tail." This is also why if you do a fakie tailslide you will pop and land on the same part of the board.

[@Cherokie89]

I'm here because I could not freaking understand why people were saying a cab was done backside when, clearly, it was done frontside. lol. Thanks for the schooling.

[@shmittyfloors4870]

THANK YOU. everyone is telling me my fakie frontside flips are backside and I’m like sorry but You’re wrong

[@qwertyer111]

The trick at 1:37 is a Fakie Backside Boardslide. Fakie slides and grinds are named for what they would be if done forwards. Here's a Fakie Back Lip. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5e8fn19maigb9k&feature=emb_logo

[@coolcow64]

at 1:18 is the spot xQc skated on stream a while back

[@eze8024]

It all makes perfect sense to me other than the fakie/nollie thing you are talking about at the end. I feel like fakie makes more sense than nollie. Fs flip and fakie fs flip are same trick. Switch fs flip and nollie fs flip are not the same 🤷‍♂️ Every other thing makes sense in my opinion.

[@freerider450tuff]

Nice content 👍🏻

[@mut4nt158]

How come nollie tres look like there done in nollie frontside Does it actually work like that cos a nollie tre looks like a nollie 360 hardflip

[@raduvalentin8648]

Becaue my boy a nollie tre is a frontside trick, where as a fakie tre is a backside trick, as is nollie hardflip a backside trick and fakie hardflip frontside trick, in accordance with your stance. Because they are flipping/spinning in that motion.

[@floatingmarshmallowmilksha8345]

What if you shove-it towards a rail frontside but rotate your body to catch it at 90 degrees and boardslide with your body facing front? Is that called a Shove it to FS or BS boardslide?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Shuvit Frontside Lipslide 😉

[@floatingmarshmallowmilksha8345]

@@NeverStopImprovingSB thank you, I think that makes a lot of sense

[@paper9570]

0:05 DIDE IS THAT HOUSE PARK OMG I WENT THERE LIKE TWO DAYS Ago

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Yessir! It's a sick park 🤘

[@LightningLion]

Good explanation overall, especially about why Fakie body rotations are reversed... But you have your Nollie Shuvits wrong. Since Shuvits are a flip trick, they're based on the way the board is scooped relative to the feet, not just the way the board rotates overall. If you took the action of a FS Shuvit and mirrored it to the nose, reversing the roles of your feet (as with any flip trick), the board would inherently rotate the other way. As another example, think about how a Varial Kickflip compares to a Nollie Varial Kickflip; they flip in the same direction, but rotate in opposite directions, despite being a similar action.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

I don't think a nollie frontside pop shuvit and a nollie frontside bigspin would have the board rotating in opposite directions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn28h6GuibWHrNk I can totally see a case for either explanation, but I think we gotta draw the line somewhere, and I don't think it would make sense to make pop shuvits the one exception.

[@hotdogissub5012]

I'm still kinda confused with backside and frontside 180s, so if I ride regular and I 180 turning left them it's backside right? And if I 180 turning to my right them it's front side right?

[@KylerGiffordRealtor]

Are you skating House Park in Austin?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Yup!

[@SlimedogYT]

What's it called when you do a FS boardslide but your body faces forward? Does it even have a special name. Switch is the way you land so is there another name for it?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Yup! It's called a lipslide.

[@PaulFrandsen]

What if you do what we would normally be called a “frontside 180” onto an obstacle that is behind you?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

pretty much in every case you would be doing a frontside maneuver since you land on the obstacle with it in front of you (after having rotated 180 degrees)

[@d1surv]

can you help with switch ollie tips? I'm goofy and just cannot pop with my right foot. Thank you

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

+Leavwix Can you already do a nollie?

[@d1surv]

+Justin Lauria no I can't

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

+Leavwix I'd practice those first, just since you can way more easily get your balance and get your feet set up properly for them (since you're already used to riding with that foot in front). Also, you have to remember, when you're learning tricks in switch/nollie stances, you're pretty much starting completely from scratch with your muscle memory. But the one thing working in your favor is that you already know the theory of how to get the trick to work in your normal stance, so definitely use that to your advantage when you're practicing. Go back and forth between switch and normal stance and analyze where you're getting hung up and try to drill the correct motion into your legs. Don't get worked up if it seems like it's taking a while. Remember how long it too to learn the ollie the first time around... just make sure to put in at least a good 5 minutes in on your nollies/switch ollies every time you go to skate. You WILL get them down I promise!

[@146ft6]

Whats the difference between frontside pop shuv and backside pop shuv

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Frontside shuv - board spins CCW when viewed from above for a regular stance skater BS Shuv - Clockwise for a regular stance skater

[@146ft6]

Tysm i didn’t think u would reply so quickly after 2 years

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

I got you bro!

[@joeyappling9516]

Ok I know this is like 4 years too but I know the park you're skating at, it is at House park broski! Such a good park just so over crowded

[@kristrinlatchman4739]

Word

[@adamnanji2268]

cool vid man

[@Szili0]

Wow, what's the music used in this video?

[@andrewwilmer2152]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/inObo4evo9iHd6M Music in this vid. Royalty free but very good! I felt the same

[@colin_nick]

At 0:05, what trick is that

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

You can call it like a nollie pop rock n' roll, something along those lines.

[@colin_nick]

@@NeverStopImprovingSB Thank you very much, been trying to figure out what to call that kind of trick for a while

[@quinntoth6008]

when you did "nollie backside shuv" that was the only thing that threw me off because we have always called that a nollie fs shuv. although the nollie bs 180 you did is how i call it as well. very strange it seems half the people think nollie is one way and half the other. if you think about it then a nollie 360 flip would actually be a nolllie 360 hardflip and vice versa because the nollie 360 flip would have the fs 360 shuv.

[@jamalsalads]

Is this housepark?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Some of the clips are from House Park 😉👍

[@TheRackits]

this shit fucked me up for years... good explanation

[@m4rcelacosta]

I love you💕

[@82Catfish]

3:09 got your nollie rotations backwards fam. that's a nollie front side shuvit. Ditto 3:42, nollie FRONTSIDE 180. You are doing a front shuv but mirrored off the nose with the feet reversed. It uses all the same muscle movements to scoop the board to rotate around behind you as a normal front shuv, if you were switch that'd be a switch front shuv. Because your foot is scooping forwards its a front shuv, that doesn't change just because you're doing it nollie. Front shuv = hard, back shuv = easy, you cant cheat that just coz you nollied it. A hard flip doesn't become a varial kickflip just because you nollied it. Trick first > stance second. Every stance follows this but for some reason you cooked it with nollies? Remember this: a "hardflip", is a kickflip and a FRONT SIDE shuvit. Its called a "hardflip" because you have to flip off the same direction the board spins and that is HARD, that DOES NOT CHANGE when it's nollie. Varial kickflip is a kickflip and a backside shuvit (normal pop shuvit) and that is CONSIDERABLY easier, why would nollie change that? Nollie hardflips and inward heelflips are not magically easier, you just got your spins backwards. Don't look at the way you're going, look at what you're doing, if you have to push/scoop the tail out infront of you, its a frontside spin; if you flick the tail behind you, its a backside spin; doesn't matter if its normal or switch and that's all MIRRORED in nollie/fakie.

[@VeganGaming]

Wouldn’t fs and bs switch when in the nollie stance on flat ground? For example a bs bigflip in your normal stance whether you ride goofy or regular is a backside 180 varial kick flip which also spins bs, if the board was to spin fs with a kick flip it would be a hardflip. So if you was to do a nollie bigflip the same direction as fs in your regular stance it would be bs, it couldn’t be fs because the board does a varial kick flip with the bs spin and not a hardflip that spins fs. This would mirror the fakie stance if this makes any sense at all haha

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

It's not how I would have designed it, but nollie stance tricks that have the spin direction "baked in" to the name / implied by the name will still be done the same way as the other stances, but the direction of rotation will technically be flipped since nollie stance rotation identifiers are flipped. So, to clarify, a hardflip in: Regular\Normal Stance = kickflip + board rotates 180 frontside Fakie Stance = kickflip + board rotates 180 frontside Switch Stance = kickflip + board rotates 180 frontside Nollie Stance = kickflip + board rotates 180 BACKSIDE (but still done the same way as a switch hardflip) So yes, your explanation makes perfect sense even though this is confusing!

[@kermitthesnitch8735]

What kind of wheels are those???

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

They're called OJ wheels (mine in particular are 58mm, 101a durometer)

[@kermitthesnitch8735]

Thanks

[@surfingisfun001]

I get what a frontside 50/50 grind is. I get what a backside 50/50 grind is. I get what a frontside 180 is. I get what a backside 180 is. What I don’t get is, if you roll up to a rail frontside and you turn 90 backside into a boardslide, this is called a frontside boardslide. What is it called if you roll up frontside and turn 90 frontside into a boardslide? It can’t also be called a frontside boardslide can it? Because they are two totally different tricks. If you’re boardsliding down a 20 stair rail it’s a huge difference if your back is facing the landing vs if you can see the landing in front of you. It’s not called the same trick is it? Seems like it should be called a front front board, or a front back board. Is there no distinction when naming the trick? Also as someone who has skated off and on for fun over 20 years I can’t believe I never fully got this til now.

[@surfingisfun001]

Boardslide vs lipslide is the answer.

[@surfingisfun001]

Backside - approach the rail with your back facing the rail. Frontside - approach with your front facing the rail. Backside boardslide - approach backside and jump on to the rail so that you are facing forwards as you slide across the rail. Frontside boardslide - approach frontside and jump onto the rail so that you are facing uphill and ride backwards down the rail. Back lip - Approach backside and jump onto the rail so that you are sliding backwards across the rail. Front lip - approach frontside and jump on so that you are facing forwards as you slide across the rail.

[@surfingisfun001]

Even simpler. FS and BS are based on approach as stated. ( Not which way you are facing on the rail which confuses most people.) Board slide is when your front foot goes over the rail. Lip slide is when your back foot goes over the rail.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Yes! I can see you put a lot off effort into this, but now you have it down perfect. Awesome work!

[@joe-zf7fx]

It's the nose that matters in flat ground tricks! Think of fakie as just rolling backwards the nose is still in the same position! But once you move your feet up for Mollie the nose is being popped off. So the nose is being modified! So fakie makes sense !

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Dude my mind is blown right now. Makes TOTAL sense when you put it that way! Nice work dude 👍

[@andrewmendez2673]

House park?

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Yup! House Park and Northeast Metro in Pflugerville

[@seatonbuck]

still confused on which way you turn for a backside 180

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

If you ride in regular stance, you turn clockwise when viewed from above. For goofy stance, it would be counterclockwise.

[@aaronbowie6339]

I can easily frontside carve a bowl but I can't backside so I'm trying to figure out how...

[@James-qv9ij]

Your naming convention for fakie and nollie rotations is backwards. It does not matter which side of the board you pop--it is about what way your body rotates and in which direction you are rolling. For example, Jim Greco is famous for his perfect nollie backside flips. That's why the Berrics asked him to do it on first try Fridays (kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX-Xgadvip55p68). Reynolds does a fakie backside flip down Carlsbad (kzbin.info/www/bejne/anzcqXtqiJ2IsJI), not a fakie frontside flip. Also, see Janoski do nollie frontside flips for the contrapositive on The Berrics' Trickipedia (theberrics.com/trickipedia-stefan-janoski-nollie-frontside-flip). You are completely right with grinds and bowl tricks.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

@ 3:19 I say "a nollie backside 180 looks like this" and rotate so that halfway through the rotation, my back is facing the direction I am rolling, the same exact direction that Jim Greco rotates during his nollie backside flip in his First Try Friday at the Berrics (corrected link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooSQoIaLmdVlhM0). I'm not sure why you are saying that I have it backwards. My explanation of fakie stance tricks is correct as well. See @ 1:52 where I do a fakie backside kickflip and refer to it as such. Note that this trick is more commonly referred to as a half cab flip (half cab means fakie backside 180: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caballerial). The real mistake I made in this video was referring to a fakie frontside 180 ollie as a frontside halfcab. Turns out there is no such thing as a frontside half cab! haha Now I know better.

[@jonathanjarzombek2426]

the half cab board you did was 100 percent backside

[@TL-ib7ti]

because the ledge was on the backside of the skater when approaching, correct?

[@tman32]

I understand the methodology, but it'd be way easier for whoever initially created front and backside to go by the direction of the turn in the board for boardslides. A frontside 180 on a rail is a backside boardslide...

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

I agree with this so much! Would make things way more intuitive

[@walterthiele1937]

this if the rail is back to you. If it is in front of you it is a a frontside lipslide (both are the same rotation as frontside 180)

[@Zen0NoMind1]

Thanks! kNow me no words gooded 🙃 Hope me for more worded movie cinemas! Puh, puh, puh pease. Wankz to you!🤣

[@re-atherthing4605]

If im goofy a frontside for me its a backside ._.?

[@TheChazman86]

The popping foot thing does make some sense. Someone tried explaining it by saying it was about what way the nose went. Made no sense to me.

[@benoz11]

If you want a logical reason why fakie is "opposite" think of it this way for a regular stance skater: We consider fakie to be rolling backwards, if you do a clockwise 180 your back is facing "forwards" (not the direct you are rolling), making it a bs 180 (half cab). That makes better sense to me until I read it back.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Yes, that is a good way to think about it!

[@tucko11]

2:58 that's still frontside bro so you get like 98 percent lol 😝 0:01 that's also frontside . Whatever front of the body is facing it doesn't change with fakie according thrasher

[@jspence8863]

Its so strange how natural it feels for me to skate backside when like my logical thinking is like wouldn't it be easier to do it front side? But my body is like NO DUDE do backside Trippy

[@killed_phill796]

How do you know if your hitting it from the back ?

[@shitlicker2999]

someone explain

[@Motion-xj1go]

There's a super good skater at my local park who thinks backside is frontside till he's blue in the face. I've skated for 16 years and surf, so obviously you'd think he'd listen, but I'll be patient nonetheless lol.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Motion-xj1go]

@@NeverStopImprovingSB I should show him this video lol.

[@Zenguitarring]

Ok, now try explaining the fakes fs/bs tail slides.. I dare you :p

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

Haha, very good question! It's not very straightforward. I hinted at the answer at 1:37. but to be more explicit, a fakie tail slide is when you slide on the leading edge of the board while riding fakie (in fakie stance, the tail of the board is still considered the side that you pop the board with), while keeping the wheels of the board on the same side of the obstacle that you popped from (as opposed to a blunt slide where you would jump fully over the obstacle and slide with all four wheels on the other side). If you do this maneuver on an obstacle that is on the toe-side of your board when you pop the trick, it's a fakie frontside tailslide. If you do it to an obstacle that is on the heel-side of the board when you pop it, it's a fakie backside tailslide. TL;DR: The rules don't change from normal stance for grinds and slides.

[@seancoughlin5713]

no if you're doing a fakie tail, if you are approaching the ledge toe side, then it is a fakie back tail. I don't care what your logic is, I'm right

[@piotrekkrolikowski344]

I get it, but the fact that the nollie stance is inverted is stupid. A nollie varial heel flip turns in the same direction as it would when done switch (fs shuv), but if you were to do that same trick (nollie v heel) with out the heelflip it would be considered backside shuv🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@asherael]

because fakie is meant to be skating "backwards?"

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

pretty much

[@PantsB4Squares]

So there is no reasoning behind why the same name of 180 trick fakie vs nollie is opposite? This has never made sense to me. You explained in the video and there is still no explanation. It just inconsistent and you have to remember.. I've been skating for 10 years and i never got a logical answer. Its frustrating. Imagine you are ambidextrous. Then wether you pop nollie or fakie is the same for you. Then whats frontside or backside? If that makes sense. Its not a question, more an example for how ridiculous this conundrum is.

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

PantsB4Squares I totally agree, the current nomenclature is absolutely an oversight that grew in popularity before we (the people who realize it's badly done!) were able to stop it from spreading. haha Don't let it get you down, though. It's just one of those things like a 360 kickflip vs a kickflip 360. If you know the history and the difference, you get instant "street cred" from other skaters who are in on it!

[@jdmresearch]

You should have covered lipslides... Great video though.

[@__AbAbe]

yo that’s my skatepark

[@pdiddyp]

That’s my local park bruh

[@quan3cuahang625]

It really takes me 30 minutes to really know how to distinguish

[@shitlicker2999]

Why is the "backside boardslide" on the coping clearly frontside lmao

[@BloodHeroProductions]

being dyslexic and with a goofy stance this was a bitch to follow. i got it tho, its all good...i think.

[@DiCasaFilm]

This is so wrong. Backside or frontside has to do with the way you are turning. If the nose of the board turns towards your heels, it's backside, and if the nose of the board turns towards your toes it's frontside. That method has NO inconsistencies. No inconsistencies = correct, in my book. In this video, the direction the skater is turning for a backside boardslide is the SAME direction for a FRONTside 180 - which is ridiculous - and wrong. (And remember, if you're going fakie (backwards), you're still popping off the TAIL.)

[@googlrc]

Still confused

[@nateross14]

The Surfer way to label them is dumb. The most logical way is the original intuitive way of thinking, that is, a frontside carve is when the front of your body faces the arc of the turn and a backside when your back faces the turn arc. Skaters need to undo the dumb reasoning of Surfers

[@TheChazman86]

That whole fakie stance thing just does not make sense. WHY! Im turning backside. But its frontside!? Why?!!! Tell me WHY!?!? Lol

[@normanelacion9565]

Jezz tmi

[@Imjakejones2322]

Ollie 180, nollie 180, and fakie 180 all spin the same clockwise direction. The clockwise direction doesn’t “switch” until you are in switch. Just throwing that out there

[@NeverStopImprovingSB]

This is a really great point, and one that I didn't cover, but is exactly correct. Another point of clarification, this would apply to regular-footed skaters, and it would be opposite for goofy-footed skaters. Loving your comments so far Jake, hope to see more from you!

[@James-ip5gz]

Nollie and Fakie 180's spin in different directions. A regular stanced rider spins counter-clockwise during a Fakie FS180. During a Nollie FS180 they spin clockwise. Your theory doesn't hold up

[@James-ip5gz]

Justin Lauria Nvm ur right. The only difference is that the fakie FS 180 has the person's back to the direction they're going (like it's stated in the video)

[@Highcrap]

Hmmm, huh?

[@Incomudro1963]

You had me at first, then I lost it... Not your fault though.

[@mrskyler44]

I hate it I hate it I hate it. It should be called the opposite. My brain hates this so much. If I turn front it should be right. How can it be a front side carve but a backside gr8nd at the same time it makes no sense whoever thought of these terms was high on ketamine

[@Snowlys]

Nah bro. That’s a nollie frontside 180

[@quantumleap4023]

I learned the basics of fs and bs from playing skate 3. Turns out their whole fakie/switch trick naming is totally wrong tho. I expect better from them

[@James-qv9ij]

Their switch/fakie naming is right. This video's is wrong.

[@josuagrub]

too much for me.

[@TrippyD]

Nope you lost me, its both the same for me