Frosty Faustings XV Winners Semi - Riddles (Kazuya, Terry) vs BassMage (Jigglypuff) - Smash Ultimate

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Frosty Faustings XV - February 3-4, 2023
Venue Location: The Westin Chicago Lombard, IL
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[@patoa3481]

I get that Riddles likes playing Kazuya and gets him good results but his Terry is so satisfying to watch. Clean conversions all around

[@bluerexplaysgames722]

Couldn't agree more. His Kazuya can look kinda flow-charty but his Terry just goes hard.

[@lumeckos6143]

He's carried and mid

[@user-be3qc7re9o]

@@lumeckos6143 Can you not?

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@CK-wr8jz ??

[@CK-wr8jz]

@@nathanlevesque7812 if you had Netflix you would understand

[@HisRoyalAirness]

Man Bass I wanted that 3-0 sooooo bad. Good job in this tourney repping us fellow puffs out here. Every time I feel like there's no hope in this character you prove me wrong. Keep it up!!

[@treehinko]

So many edge techs!! Missing 1/3 of them would have been game for Bassmage

[@aoeu256]

I think BassMage can also punish those up-Bs with rest (there is a video of Puff resting every single character up-B somewhere) if he were God...

[@mr.emolgario637]

​@@aoeu256 Link of the video?

[@gabrielcross1062]

Not that up b killing at 54 was just nuts. Absolutely ridiculous

[@bluetannery1527]

$5.99

[@Tonytonychoper13]

@@bluetannery1527 worth it tho

[@Eclipse-nx6yn]

@@bluetannery1527 its fd, super light weight puff and bass mage di'd to the top

[@souljatom974]

Wow ! This is TOP LEVEL plays ! 💥 Puff is so hard to plays against, all these techs you need to do to stay alive. All these edge guards by Puff were terrified, every time you are Offstage you are not well at all. GGs to both players and Riddles to made the comeback

[@phenomenonnarutokun]

I miss Riddles’ Terry

[@lumeckos6143]

I don't

[@lopp567]

What a comeback from Riddles holayyy

[@ImCookieSparx]

Thanks for the spoilers, prick.

[@SuperVada]

If Terry owns a restaurant, Rising tacos will be on the menu.

[@thecatdaddy1695]

I missed the Riddles Terry

[@janswhatsupdoc]

Same

[@JB-fd8jy]

The commentators really thought Kazuya is a losing matchup for puff because a single anti air move? Lol

[@Mmaroka]

I mean it does beat out most of her kit so understandable

[@royalbidoof6135]

13:59 kill confirm at 28 lol. lmao.

[@Diamondsucks.]

bad di but yeah lol its puff specific because light and floaty

[@BlackFire61111]

I dont think spot dodge attack to up air is a true combo so not a confirm but still godlike

[@jbyrd3132]

@@BlackFire61111 I think it is since Puff has a frame 4 airdodge

[@royalbidoof6135]

@@BlackFire61111 It is. Riddles does it a lot with Terry against any character. It has a surprising amount of hitstun

[@dandyheartbeat]

@@royalbidoof6135 It depends only on bad DI though

[@houchi69]

While balloons are light, they won't fly as far.

[@karanveersehra6336]

Fun fact: Riddles and Bassmage had played twice before this and Riddles had barely won game 5 each time. So this win had to have meant a lot to Bass

[@soccer81894]

Everyone was cheering for Bass, so close!

[@Decrypt-Kryptonian]

Bro His Terry I like .....he so clean His Kazuya is someone can already do 0 to Kill ....

[@DerkerBluer]

SO CLOSE

[@eduardomorales8595]

Part of me wanted riddles to lose, because let's face it, to see riddles lose to a main jigglypuff would be awesome, but I'm glad he'll win, to see how he adapted with Terry was amazing.

[@abrahamcorona5380]

Vamooooooos riddles

[@xdmememaster5403]

kayate luzer

[@abrahamcorona5380]

@@xdmememaster5403 loser? No soy tu mamá capullo

[@007alztruli]

I thought this is the character that people say is trash in Ultimate? That's why I don't pay much attention to all these silly tier lists. What annoys me the most are the people who run to the comments after every video telling us how the matchup is -1 or other such nonsense like they are really smart and did some scientific research when all they did was recite some nonsense they saw from some pro(s) which most times is nothing more than just that person's opinion.

[@TyphonCH]

Tier lists are built the way they are because of what the character is capable of and how consistent they are. Raw traits like physics/weight can make or break a character. Sway too much to heavy or too light, too fast or too slow, and you start to see some very egregious drawbacks to balance them out. Incineroar and Jigglypuff being good examples. Now you factor in the risk/reward of mid/low tiers like Jiggly/Incin, and how consistent they are with combos, kill confirms, etc, and it becomes clear who is better than the other. Wolf, Mario, Palu, are all top tier for a reason. Notice how almost all top tiers are middle of the pack or above average for weight, physics, ease and consistency of combos and kill set ups. One person excelling with a mid tier like Jigglypuff, or a low tier like Mac, doesn't make the character good.

[@007alztruli]

@@TyphonCH you are doing exactly what I'm talking about. If someone is excelling with the characters that you call crap against major pros that are using your so-called high tiers or top tiers, how is the character crap? It just shows that very few people are willing to put in the effort to use the character well. That does not make the character crap, it makes the character difficult to use effectively and then it becomes a question of deciding if the effort required to master the character is worth it. That is not to say that some matchups are not difficult or that some characters do not have obvious flaws, like being easy to edge guard against, but this nonsense of coming to every video and talking about how the matchup is -1 or other such nonsense is stupid and annoying, because it gives the impression the person using the character makes no difference to the result. People like you were the ones that thought characters like Cloud, Byleth or Kazuya, were average before Spargo, MK Leo and Riddles started showing their potential. All of a sudden, you are all now mentioning them among the best characters.

[@bancholeo55]

​@@007alztruli 💯💯💯

[@nootn00nto]

jigglypuff IS trash. Bass just played better but it's not enough when your character is a handicap

[@freddiesimmons1394]

The commentator thinks puff mashes to wake up from rest Wow

[@XylessBrawl]

To be fair, Jiggs waking up early is new in Ultimate and only happens when she lands the hit. Thwack used to commentate a ton in the Smash 4 days but very small changes like that are something he hasn't learned.

[@freddiesimmons1394]

@@XylessBrawl but it still wasn't a mash, in any game

[@PpRZman]

You can wake up early by spinning the left stick

[@freddiesimmons1394]

@@PpRZman you're kidding, right?

[@PpRZman]

@@freddiesimmons1394 Just try it before assuming.

[@BryanMatias]

12:37 beautiful edge guard

[@friendlyolbum]

"Riddles carried by Kazuya"

[@acronix-053]

🤨???? 2:47

[@friendlyolbum]

@@acronix-053 notice the quotation marks

[@KevSB07]

@@acronix-053 there’s a KZbin account called “RiddlesCarriedbyKazuya” spreading hate in all the comment sections of riddles sets But you’ll never see him here

[@silaspq]

@@KevSB07 oh hey, that guy is subscribed to me because of some of the stuff i posted, i posted sum about mkleo having a crazy comeback with marth against riddles, dang the haters came coming in, on both kazuya, AND riddles. including that guy. it was kinda sad.

[@micdap7533]

Nah he’s carried by terry

[@RangoTheMercenary]

Ain't no way Jigglypuff should have taken a game off of Terry.

[@fourniervictor9354]

Off kazuya either imo

[@hackalos8348]

Lets go riddles!!!!!!

[@noice8911]

Where the Kazuya haters at? L to them

[@Ghoats]

difference between hating kazuya and hating the player

[@dt10538]

But...Kazuya didn't win any games in this set...lol

[@Juriismywife]

I would have switched characters lmao Jigglypuff is too annoying for shotos

[@duffatty]

It's sad to see bassmage lose to some dlc bs. He's clearly a better player than riddles, Terry is just so broken. Riddles is kinda carried

[@ellachino4799]

is he clearly a better player than riddles if he decided to play a character that gets dumpstered hard by the meta? I've always hated the character carries mentality that seems to plague smash comment sections

[@EigoSensei]

Riddles still sweeps with Ken and Richter sadly

[@AsianboyMandude]

nah bro, bassmage was close to 3-0'ing cuz Puff can gimp and early kill. If Riddles wasn't as good as he was he would've lost

[@CK-wr8jz]

He still sweeps with Roy 💀

[@CK-wr8jz]

He still sweeps with Roy 💀