FrSky X20S - First look, overview, and thoughts

[@bobbylana]

Thank you, Mr. D, your videos are really a great help in understanding Tandem X20, please continue...

[@MrD]

You’re welcome Bobby. I have more planned for the X20. The biggest problem is that some things are changing, so the videos may be helpful for a short while. For example, the model select has now moved from system to the model menu. But I’ll do the best I can.

[@ErikJohnsonFMA]

my old spektrum dx9 is starting to show its age. lost signal with it twice today. I'm thinking this will be a nice upgrade. thanks for the thorough walk through of this radio

[@MrD]

You’re welcome Erik. I’m glad I could help.

[@poul-erikjensen508]

Hi and thanks for a nice channel you have. Have just ordered an X20 like you so I am completely open to what frsky has done and have used frsky for many years now most with open tx. Sees that this is mostly a graphic version of opentx. Can't wait to learn it.

[@MrD]

Thanks Poul. I’m sure you’ll be pleased. It’s a great transmitter. ETHOS is certainly improving all the time. A lot of what OpenTX can do, so can ETHOS. The rest is either on the way, or something the developers will look in to.

[@MeFlyer]

Thanks for such great info on Ethos! I am a long time Spektrum user (2006!) and recently bought the X20S because I was interested after reading some of the threads on RC Groups. I don't plan to give up on Spektrum but I always like to check out new things. I have watched (and studied!) your videos and some others and have successfully converted several planes over to this new system. even making my own voice files for the functions I use. Again, thanks! Joe

[@MrD]

You’re welcome Joe. I’m glad the videos are helping and you’re enjoying the transmitter.

[@Arcave]

Best review I've seen so far, subscribed! I've had the X20 in Black for some weeks now & love it as I felt the RM was to chunky for me after owning a X7 for 4 years, setting up all my models took just a few hours & I never asked for any help not like say OpenTX, I will look forward to more from you :)

[@MrD]

Thank you. I can see how this will be similar feeling to a Q-X7. It’s great to hear that you have everything set up quickly too. I hope you have great flights.

[@Arcave]

@@MrD And the jog wheel on the X7 is like the X20 I had the RM style roller on a old Spektrum & hated it.

[@MrD]

The Q-X7 wheel is like the X10S. The X20 is slightly different. It’s one piece of plastic with no separate enter button. It just doesn’t feel as good to use as the Q-X7/X10. Still miles better than a scroller wheel though.

[@markbutler7027]

Great review. Thanks for the honest and informative review. I'm going to load ETHOS on my Hours X10s.

[@MrD]

You’re welcome Mark. I’m glad it was a helpful video.

[@typxxilps]

I watched it a second time cause first time was more listening while cooking. I totally agree about 16:02 and the control/steering buttons and the quality of the QX7. Great overview and I guess that till Chrismas we might see a far improved one - regarding the software and maybe the hardware issues that are there. I personally do not go anymore for new tech in the first season after release. A season is short, good weather rare this year and I do not fiddle around. I wait for all the reviews and reports what is going wrong and then will make a decision before Chrismas. I even do no longer build new planes. I simply wait for autumn and then buy the stuff I need, but those are usually big hobbyking boxes that will be delivered, but they must last for a season. The last move had been the call from Pawel for upgrading to iNAV 2.6 stable and also the latest OpenTX stable to have a reliable foundation. I am impressed and can not wait to listen and watch your 6 months later points, those that had bothered you and those that had bothered you and been ironed out.

[@MrD]

Thanks Wolf. We’ve all got to eat 😄 You have made some very nice points there. I will add a video at the end of the year about ETHOS and how it has progressed. My main criticisms of the transmitter are hardware. But they are really only very minor (jog wheel and missing T5 and T6). The 6 button switch may be improved by ETHOS, so hopefully I have something positive to report there, along with LUA and Crossfire support.

[@grumpyrse]

Looking forward to the HD version, hopefully this will be available soon

[@MrD]

It will be interesting to see what the HD version is. Just a Micro HDMI in, or something else.

[@russshanks5913]

Super review! I'm a FrSky guy and OpenTx guy...X9D, X9D+, X12S...at least FrSky has a path for my loads of X-receivers (even if I have to update them to version 2). Ethos looks promising but not totally convinced. I live and die by my FLVSS lipo sensor and they seem to be having trouble with "calculated" sensors. Hoping they fix that soon...if they do, I might take the plunge.

[@MrD]

Thanks Russ. I’m sure they’ll get it all working much better. For me personally, global variables still needs work and am looking forward to the LUA scripts implementation. But, it’s still very new. I’m just impressed with the developers listening to the pilots and implementing what they need. It has a lot of potential.

[@ronrempel]

Thankyou for the video you cemented it 100% iam getting a Spektrum ix14 .

[@MrD]

You’re welcome. Though, I would ever choose Spektrum over any other transmitter. I hope you don’t have many problems with it.

[@ronrempel]

@@MrD no worries I know with out a shadow of a doubt I won't and at least I have a service center to send it to

[@MrD]

@@ronrempel from my experience with Spektrum, and that of the guys at my club. That’s unlikely. Hopefully you don’t need the service centre too much.

[@pablotovar4906]

Hi dear friend Mr D Thanks for the great video Regards from colombia south América

[@MrD]

Thank you Pablo. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

[@carbidedge]

Great video, thank you, how you make another one soon going deeper into ETHOS.👍

[@MrD]

I’ll be making more videos on ETHOS. It’s still changing, so that kind of holds some videos off until things stabilise.

[@gregoryh4601]

Thanks for the info and I just bought a X20s. My question is have you done any Testing on using External Antennas on the FrSky x20s? My friend and I fly F5J and he in a lot of contest. So can we install External Antenna would give us less chance losing signal lost? Thanks

[@charlesmcguire9711]

Have you been able to get your hands on the x20rs? Interested to know what you think and the differences between it and the x20rs. Hope you are well Darin. Thank you.

[@mileswintonyk7849]

Hi. I’ve asked this before some time ago. I’ve been searching for info lately but can’t find any update. Anyway, has FrSky finally included auto trim in the x20S? Thanks.

[@MrD]

You mean instatrim from OpenTX? If so, it should be in ETHOS 1.5.

[@fredericgrob384]

Hi, first of all, I want to say that your vidéos are absolutely amasing good ! I have a X20S and you and your vidéos helped me very much for the settings and firmeware updating. Now I'm struggling for setting correctly the flight mode on my glider (Normal, speed, thermal) do you have any vidéo on this topic ? Thanks Frédéric

[@MrD]

Hi Frédéric, I don't have any videos on advance glider setups at the moment. If you haven't seen them. I would highly recommend checking out the rc-soar templates. The work extremely well. rc-soar.com/ethos/

[@fredericgrob384]

@@MrD Hi, many thanks !

[@galovillagomez6242]

Hi, thanks for your good video, can I use the x20s, to input maneuvers which through a switch, the radio would tell me the next maneuver?

[@Synthetic11]

I am a Spektrum guy but am interested in this radio....what keeps me from FrSky is that I have 30 to 40 DSMX & DSM2 receivers that I don't want to replace....is there a module that will make my receivers compatible with the Tandem X20S? Thanks for any help.

[@MrD]

Unfortunately I don’t believe there is. There are Lite multiprotocol modules. But, there is nothing in ETHOS to support them. I don’t know if MPM support is planned either.

[@Synthetic11]

@@MrD Thank you.

[@MrD]

You’re welcome

[@stuhall2689]

Hi Darren, I'm looking at getting the FrSKY X20S what are your thoughts now you're coming up to 12 months with the radio. By the way is that Browndown your flying from, I've recently moved from that area to the Midlands.

[@MrD]

Hi Stu. Yes I’m at Browndown. Its been about 9 months, and I’m still very happy with the radio. It feels great, and I’ve not had any problems. Just the odd UI bug. But the team are very quick to fix those or add features to improve ETHOS even further. There are another couple of pilots in the club who are also using the X20 and are both enjoying the experience too. One was a past FrSky user whereas the other has moved from Spektrum and Futaba.

[@stuhall2689]

@@MrD Brilliant thanks for the reply, I'm still watching your video now and finding it very good. I'm using Spektrum for my IC planes and the Radiomaster for electric at the moment. The X20s seems like a good idea to take my IC models to FrSKY which I've been impressed with in my electric models then I would only be using one Transmitter.

[@MrD]

Sounds like a good plan Stu. One of the guys has been flying his WotsWot around on his. I’ve not tried IC on mine yet, mainly because I’ve been flying electric. But once the weather improves I’ll give my AcroWot a spin. The only thing to bear in mind is that if you are using a petrol, or any other engine with electronic ignition. You need to use either the Pro or Tandem range of receivers. The Tandem receivers only work with the X20 and X18 currently.

[@stuhall2689]

@@MrD Hi Darren I only fly glow and electric atm so I should be ok with X20s

[@MrD]

It’ll be great with those. It’ll be great with petrol too. It’s just receiver selection.

[@kalps2608]

Hi, How do you setup or select the 6 POS switches? I don’t see an option in the selection menu. Thanks

[@MrD]

You need to set up mixes for those switches on a non-transmitted channel. Then use that channel as the input for the mix you want to operate. It's a bit of a pain that way. But it means the switches are pretty flexible in how they can be used.

[@kalps2608]

Would you recommend X20s or X18s? Is the X18s screen very small incomparable to x20s… can’t make up my mind which way to go… Thanks

[@MrD]

If the screen is important to you, the X20 is definitely the better choice. They’re both great radios. The X18 feels better to hold. But the X20 definitely has the better screen and feels better quality.

[@Duraltia]

Mhh... I still kinda have to wonder what has happened to the person that designed the Horus X12S for FrSky... That thing was a _beauty_ in terms of design and color choice with the accents in red and silver harmonizing just perfect in stark contrast to anything else that came before or after it is looking mostly like those cheap remotes you get with RTR Kits from your penny store.

[@MrD]

Each to their own. I really liked the look of the carbon X10S. Though it’s a little blocky. But then so is the X12S. I like the look of the X20 too. I don’t agree that any of them look like cheap PnP transmitters. That’s a bit too far fetched.

[@spartan3299]

I knew they could "Do it again." Looks so far to be a very nice system.I might have bought the non-"S" version if they would have just let me order the radio alone.

[@MrD]

I think that will happen soon enough. It would probably put it around X9D 2019 SE money without the two receivers in the package.

[@AZROTORHEADS]

Hi I bought the X20S and want to bind it to a helicopter and cant figure it out. any advice for a new guy to RC Helicopters?

[@MrD]

Sorry, I don't fly helicopters at all. I hope you can find some help on this. Maybe Lee at Painless360. He has some videos on helis.

[@palleschnoor332]

Hi i have seen several of your videos about frsky and sprcielt and the new tandem x20s and you seem like one of those who has the most control over the features and what it can so i want to hear from you if you know about tandem x20s or if anything can be obtained so that it can work with realflight 9.5 simulators

[@MrD]

Hi Palle, I'm not really in control of any features, I can only make recommendations to FrSky. To be fair, they take it all in, and are very much listening to pilot feedback. Yes, it should work fine with RealFlight. I don't have that particular simulator myself. But I have used the X20S with other simulators and it works fine. I have a model setup for the simulators with all the switches defined. Then plug in the USB and select Joystick from the options. Better yet, it charges the radio as you fly the sim.

[@richardsmith5689]

when are you going to do a head tracking set up video with the x20s

[@Chmied]

If you wouldn't mind, i have a question regarding this radio. I got the S version. Most of setup was a breeze. I also bought one of the yapuu, i think it is, cables. I knew it may not work. I hooked it up to the telem 2 port on my Cube orange, set all settings according to directions, i believe all correctly, they made sense anyway. Do i absolutely have to run the script in order to get anything out of it on the radio? Can sensors from the orange cube be detected on the radio without running the script? I expected to at least be able to get the battery voltage to come through. I guess if you bother with that question, kind of along the same lines, can i get a Frsky GPS V2 to interact with the Cube? I ordered a Here GPS but its backordered, so who knows when that comes. Flying a quadcopter by the way.

[@MrD]

Sorry, you’ve really lost me with the “yapuu”. Is this some kind of telemetry device? You should be able to connect a receiver to the cube and get telemetry back to the radio. I’m really not familiar with cube flight controllers. But they should at least have SBUS with SmartPort, if not F.Port. If you get that hooked up and the cube set up, you should get telemetry back. You will need to discover new sensors on the transmitter.

[@Chmied]

@@MrD Thanks for the reply. I may need to try again, it didn't seem to work that way with my initial setup. The Yapuu script and cable is supposed to send telemetry from the cube to the Yappuu, LUA script for displaying several cool things on an Open TX radio. So like i said i bought one of these with the hopes it would get me some sensor from the cube, but as i said i had an inkling it wasn't going to work, but cheap and worth a try. Who knows maybe they adapt the script for Ethos. I get all my FrSky sensor across just fine, but i don't think any Cube sensor talk, or as i mentioned the FrSky GPS doesn't talk to the cube either, not sure if this would ever work. As you can tell i'm a little new here.

[@MrD]

I’ve just been checking out the Yaapu telemetry Wiki, and it reads like the script opens up the extra sensors. So the script would be needed.

[@Chmied]

@@MrD Yea thats what i figured. Maybe they will build an Ethos one. Thanks for your time my friend.

[@muqeeth1234]

Hi, nice video..just wanted to know if the internal Bluetooth module can be used to connect to a ground station (laptop) running Mission Planner, like a conventional telemetry unit

[@MrD]

I've just had a quick look, and there is a telemetry option under the Bluetooth settings. So, possibly this could work. I don't want to say a definitive yes or no, as I've not really investigated it.

[@grahamlongley8298]

What a great video. I am on my second Futaba radio. The latest, a 14 SG has already been back for repair & is now showing signs of issues. Ie receivers becoming "unlinked". I like this transmitter you have shown, as it is much cheaper than the equivalent Futaba. It also seems far more user friendly, which I think is a Futaba failing. trouble is that our club members use Futaba plus one or 2 spectrum. So I will not be able to get any help if I have a problem. We have a senior instructor who uses Futaba & sometimes I go on a buddy lead when I have a new model. I assume that I cannot hook his Futaba 18SG to an X20S Can I use my 617FS receivers with this transmitters?

[@AMAJHON]

Sir what can you tell me about such a 3 in 1 transmitter? If the control range is more than 60 kilo meters, which supports Pixhawk, I can connect my smartphone to that transmitter and see all the data or camera live on my screen.😶

[@michaelwillis9207]

Very nice switch covers, where can I get some?

[@MrD]

These came with the transmitter.

[@frank-vq4mx]

Hi Daren. Could you tell me where the "Dual Rates" setup is ? thanks

[@MrD]

Hi Frank. Rates are setup in the mixer for the surfaces. Check out the section in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKPbe5WgZpZ7mJY

[@frank-vq4mx]

@Mr.D - Falling with style Thanks, Daren. I must have missed this tutorial.

[@MrD]

No problem. It’s only been out a week or 2.

[@joenaylor34]

Is it going to be a problem to create a new Inav OpenTX Standard/Pro Model for this transmitter? I cannot live without these now that I have gotten accustomed to them!

[@MrD]

It’s great to hear people like the OpenTX models. It’s something that’s currently being looked in to.

[@fly2me2day]

Hi Darren, been searching for the output voltage to the servos on the TD R18Ch Rx. obviously it can use a pair of 2S lipos but is it 5V out to servos or can I use HV jobs? Also need to know if its compatible with Petrol Ignition systems Re: interference. Thanks in advance.

[@MrD]

It outputs the same voltage as the input. There are no BECs inside the receiver. All Tandem receivers are compatible with IC, and have filters for interference.

[@fly2me2day]

Greatly appreciated...

[@fly2me2day]

One more thing! Any chance of covering a Elrs module and flashing a lua script to a Tandem X20 Tx (video obviously) currently using Radiomaster T16S and the "big" Rangemaster module.

[@MrD]

@fly2me2day kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ20gqpoZ5hrp5Ysi=SA8XhnZtpdmhQdHT

[@zozo6015]

Great series about ethos and tandem x20s. I just got my radio few weeks a go and it is complaining about the rtc battery low. Any idea where can I find that battery so that I would be able to replace it?

[@MrD]

It shouldn't really be complaining this soon. If you take a look at the video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3akoH6DYrmUb8k you can see the RTC clock battery peeking out above the RF board. If you look above the shielding for the RF module on the right, you'll see the black antenna lead, which goes to the external antenna connector. Above that you can see about half of the silver battery inside the brown case. I've not taken this out myself yet. But it looks like you need to unscrew the RF board. Then you should have easy access to the RTC battery.

[@zozo6015]

@@MrD Cool, any idea what kind of battery is that? I would like to buy the battery before I take this thing apart.

[@MrD]

I’m not sure to be honest. If you pop the back off, you may be able to see the number on the cell. It’s just the 4 screws, and push down on the sliders. Just be carful of the antennae cables. I could have a look at mine tomorrow if the number isn’t visible on yours.

[@zozo6015]

I have replaced that battery which is a cr1220 3V battery. I've put it together and it is still complaining about the RTC battery low. Either that battery is not it or it's something else wrong in there. I went to see the alarm settings and it was set to 3V. Now these batteries are marked as 3V batteries therefore I assumed that value is not correct so I changed it to default that was 2V. The alarm went away. By the way this was how I got the radio.

[@MrD]

I just checked mine and the RTC voltage is at 2.9v.

[@grumpyoldnerd8727]

Got through it finally on the 4th attempt. Brilliant, I did not know the head of design for EthOS was the former OpenTx main dev which now explains the delay on OpenTx 2.4 in my book. Maybe I missed it, but how is the haptic hardware experience regarding quality of the materials used ? Gimbals should be the same as the Horus ones but how does the shell feel ? Still not an alu/carbon shell with leather grips, unfortunately ;) A few things that came to my mind: Full size Crossfire ? If you want a bluetooth bridge you'd need the fullsize module which has a JR/-bay base, which is also needed for TBS cloud functions such as dynamic vtx because the WiFi module is physically located in the JR/-adaptor. How would you solve that with the X20 ? And second: Since you are rather close to FrSky and INAV I suppose there will be an IFWG EthOS pro model at some future point in time, and there may be a telemetry script similar to the INAV Lua at some point in time. Why not go a step further and put an INAV configurator in it ? That big screen would be absolutely put to use with that. Like SpeedyBee, but just without the annoying connection issues. Simply and conveniently OTA. Now that would be an absolute USP to buy this radio. You could later expand that to BetaFlight and even Ardu, and since FrSky now have a full-time employee developer this should not be too hard. This and give me my alu/carbon shell with genuine leather grips and I'll buy it... Even if it's FrSky ;)

[@MrD]

Henrik, I’m still not used to GrumpOldNerd. I have to go to work, so can’t signify this with the long response it should have. But maybe it’s good to leave you guessing 🤣 You may have noticed the glitching in the video. The unboxing part had loads of that. I’m currently pricing up a new computer to get over this. But anyway, the gimbals feel good, just like the X10S. The switches feel as good as the X10S, if not better, and the pots are awesome. The only thing that does not feel as good is the menu jog wheel. Physically in the hands it feels lighter and more like an X9D. But overall it feels good. The plastics aren’t bad and the rubber grips are effective. Maybe they could be upgraded to leather at some point 😉 I need to get the Lite to full size adapter. Once I do, I can answer about the crossfire module. But having said that, it would be easy to buy the $10 adaptor and make a new 3D printed frame for it to allow modules to fit. The only issue with the current location could be the handle. The configurator idea is great. I personally still prefer to take a laptop. But I can see how this could benefit a lot of people.

[@grumpyoldnerd8727]

@@MrD I mean, take it another step forward, use the YAAPU map widget as template, put your plane in ALT hold, create waypoints on the map via touch screen, forward them to the plane and go on flying... I so wish I had learned something useful and could program C...

[@MrD]

I don’t know. I think missions should have more planning than a last minute thing at the field. But the ability to change things like launch or RTH settings based on the current environment, or set a safehome would be handy.

[@Javedkhan-f1u5n]

What is range ? Which one is best Skyroid m12l vs frsky tandem x20 pro 😢😢😢😢

[@reprieve53]

Well done, thank you mate

[@MrD]

No problem. I'm glad it was helpful.

[@sleepingbearffg5008]

👊👊💪💪 nice review wish tx16S came with Case..

[@MrD]

It is a good looking transmitter.

[@azzurripro]

Hi Thanks for the video. do you know how to change teh sticks from Mode 2 to mode 1?

[@hydrojet7x70]

I like everything about it except 1 thing. Those trim buttons wobbly all over the place drive me nuts!

[@MrD]

Yeah, they are a little wobbly.

[@4HST]

Do you have any experience with paragliding? Will they be able to be set up in ethos?

[@MrD]

I’ve not used an RC paraglider. But, I can’t see why a mix for one could not be made in ETHOS. It looks like the throttle is the same, the traditional yaw axis controls the left hand and the aileron axis controls the right hand. This would be be totally possible.

[@4HST]

@@MrD thank you 🙂

[@MrD]

You’re welcome

[@pablotovar4906]

You know When the New dual band tandem receivers are going to be available? Thanks very much

[@MrD]

Unfortunately I don’t. I’m really interested in checking these out too, and wondering what types will be available.

[@pablotovar4906]

Any way... Thank you... Very much

[@MrD]

You’re welcome. If I get any information, I’ll pass it on.

[@afterburnerrc6333]

Great review!

[@MrD]

Thanks you.

[@treavorbentmore9843]

I’m 3yrs late but is this transmitter still worth getting for edf jets in November 2024?

[@MrD]

It is a good transmitter. But, there is now an updated version with more features. The X20 R is a better X20, and the X20 RS is a better X20 S. I’m pretty much exclusively using the X20 Pro now. Which I absolutely love.

[@treavorbentmore9843]

@ Thanks for the cosign!! I’ve never flown a 4 channel rc plane until the other day. Saw this on an early Black Friday deal and jumped on it. So I’m sure this transmitter will be good for me with the amount I need to learn. I figured, why get my feet wet when I can just bellyflop!?!🤷‍♂️

[@grahamlongley8298]

What is the purpose of the inbuilt Gyro?

[@pooyahesabi]

is this compatible with express lrs module?

[@MrD]

No. They use the CRSF protocol. Once Crossfire support has been added, they should work too.

[@christianboehm83]

Nice review! 👍 Thx for that! One question: are the gimbals completly aluminium...all parts?

[@MrD]

Yes, they are all CNC aluminium. They almost look plastic with the back off, but they are aluminium. One of my gimbles now has a little silver scratch on it where I wanted to test.

[@crossfpv888]

Very good

[@MrD]

Thank you

[@noisy_boi_fpv_3920]

Will it Do Crossfire do u know

[@MrD]

Yes it will. But currently it is a hack, where you need to convert a full size module to use the JR Lite bay, and use PPM to communicate between the transmitter and module. But it can work. However the CRSF protocol, along with Ghost, will be developed for ETHOS. Once that is there, crossfire modules with a JR Lite connection will work out the box. This will come after LUA scripts have been developed. There’s no point in having it before LUA, or the settings could not be changed. LUA is in development now.

[@_F5X]

👍 thnx

[@MrD]

No problem 👍

[@aungthetaungther3356]

how much?

[@MrD]

It’s best to check your local retailers. Prices vary for different countries and with time.

[@feltav5719]

So... Frsky tandem x20s seems superior compared to the paladin

[@MrD]

To be honest, I've not seen much of the Paladin. I saw Andrew Newton's video a few years ago. But not much else. All I can say is that it's a great transmitter, and is constantly improving as ETHOS matures.

[@lawrencewilliams1477]

CAN I BIND ALL MY SPEKTRUM RECEIVERS ON BIND AND FLY PLANES BIGGEST QUESTION CHEERS

[@MrD]

With an external multi protocol module this should be possible. It is worth checking the protocols supported by the module though. www.multi-module.org/basics/supported-protocols

[@DronePlayground]

👍👀🇭🇷

[@sodjazero]

As much as I like the physical build of this Tx I will never buy it unless there is a way to run Open/Edge Tx.

[@MrD]

You’re welcome to that opinion. I was sceptical before using ETHOS, as I am a massive fan of OpenTX. But, I have to say that for me, other than two things, I can do everything with ETHOS that I can do with OpenTX. They are both pretty much on the same page. OpenTX has the two missing things, but ETHOS is so much easier to use, especially when setting up new models. What is it you think is missing in ETHOS that you would miss from OpenTX? The two for me are CRSF (which is coming) and being to disassociate trims based in flight modes.

[@sodjazero]

@@MrD My main thing is widgets. Specifically INAV Lua, or the ability for apps. Like the TBS agent lite, I fly TBS as well. If ethos offers telemetry info, distance, altitude, gyro ect.. It might be worth purchasing.

[@MrD]

Widgets have been there for a long time. LUA scripts are a recent addition, so hopefully we will see some scripts ported over soon. All that telemetry is already there too. The main thing missing is Crossfire. But with ELRS compatibility inbound, that should mean CRSF support. At the end of the day, you should use whatever is best for you. But, a lot of the negativity towards ETHOS is petty unjust.

[@philiplewis957]

As a long time user of Frsky (before they even got near making an actual transmitter) and even longer using Open TX I said exactly the same thing. But then I found out Bertrand was behind it and kept an eye on the development and watched it mature, when they added ppm center control and LUA I thought it deserved looking at with an open mind and went for it, now I love it, personally I think of it as Bertrand taking the opportunity to do Open TX again from the start and do what he would have done differently right from the start.

[@MrD]

I think so too. ETHOS is certainly maturing nicely. Can’t wait to see what it brings in the future.

[@chiprobertson3094]

My x10s feels better

[@MrD]

Don’t get me wrong. I loved my X10S. I’ve now moved to the X20 Pro. For me that is where I want to be for flying. I prefer the lower weight and screen position. The only thing I’d change is to get back the 6-way rotary switch from the X10S. I do still prefer that over the individual buttons. It’s all personal preference at the end of the day. You’ve got to use what feels right for you.