FRUSTRATING PROBLEM with MILWAUKEE PACKOUT IS SOLVED!

[@billburder2941]

I bought a set of these pins (from amazon not neat tools) and it bent the first day I had it attached. I pulled my stack up one step that was a decorative rock type and it bent the pin. I wouldn't recommend this setup but instead drill a hole near the top of the box through the plastic and handle itself and slide a wire lock pin through it. I have used this for a couple years with no regrets. I thought this was a good idea though so I tried it.

[@reddbeard2030]

Go Vince! I got my Spring Loaded Pins from Jake-of-All a couple years ago. Great feature!

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks fir the feedback Redd, we appreciate it! Jake is a good guy and makes awesome stuff! 👍🏻

[@SandraMcRitchie]

Thanks for showing the difficulty with replacing the handle.

[@wlongmore]

Placing an order as of right now! I have a Packout rolling toolbox and this has been a problem for me since day one of carrying it in the back of my pickup truck. I've been wanting to install a Tonneau cover, but I would not have enough clearance. I've considered removing the handle, cutting off a few inches, and then screwing it back in place. The problem with this, of course, is that I would then have less leverage when the handle is fully extended to roll around a fully loaded toolbox. This quick release thing is a great solution! And yes, like Vince, I'm also a firm believer in supporting small family owned businesses, especially when they offer products or services that make my life easier.

[@beardeddude9168]

Does anyone know why Milwaukee hasn't addressed this as of yet? It's been a complaint of myself and others for 2 years and for as innovative as Milwaukee tends to be, I'm surprised this has gone overlooked. Thanks for sharing an aftermarket fix!

[@MyGuyKirby]

Thanks to JakeOfAll I found an earlier version that works similar but these are nicer. I have a tonneau cover and want to carry liquids in the rolling case so laying down was a no-go option

[@WillyDuit]

Seems great. Mark the handles with a marker or some tape so you know how deep to drop it in and your off and running.

[@VCGConstruction]

Good thinking, imma do that! Thanks!

[@creeplife2802]

Aaaallso great idea, MAYBE, possibly weld, drill, epoxy tabs while it's installed before you do anything to the box.

[@tl1000brad]

Now that I know Neat tool is small business I am willing to support them by browsing and purchasing their products, TY VCG.

[@normferguson2769]

I saw a video last year on these pins. When I got my Packout last spring I ordered the snap pins immediately. I use the pins weekly to remove the handle and leave the handle in the truck box. I usually line up the red boxes along the back tailgate for easy access during work hours.

[@brianhilbert8673]

Ordered mine before the video was over. I always had this problem. Thanks Vince for the fix!

[@JoeIrizarry88]

Glad to see the honesty about struggle getting it in.

[@rickwashek478]

Thanks Vince, looks like a nice product. I don't have a need for them everything fits in my E250 very well.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Rick, we appreciate it! No problem fitting in my truck either but the #VeryCoolGang kept asking! 👍🏻

[@soccerstudut]

It looks like it may help to enlarge the holes in the handle as well so that the pins more easily snap into place without having to wiggle them so much.

[@normferguson2769]

I did that to mine.

[@bearded1677]

What about instead of a bigger hole, a horizontal slit the thickness of the the hole. would be easier to align

[@peterk9500]

Great video! How about using a drill jig to make the holes/threads perfectly aligned and this way the pin should click with ease? Thanks for sharing. Buying this product now!!

[@maccurtinequipmentservice8915]

Very nice review! I like the fact that you did not edit out your frustrations with getting the pins to seat properly. I’m willing to bet, that Milwaukee will incorporate a design change like this in the next GEN tool chest.

[@ajaurgemma5341]

I bought these pins. Once you have them dialed in they work perfect every time. Super fast and easy

[@VCGConstruction]

*_Great to hear!_*

[@shopneattools]

Thanks for Sharing our Packout Handle Quick Release Kit!

[@VCGConstruction]

It’s a great solution in our opinion

[@mathewthatcher6274]

I found this just in time for Black Friday. This issue was holding me back from buying the 3 piece combo. Thanks Vince!

[@patelpatel7]

Spot on Vice - NICE SOLUTION and video. Rock-on

[@creeplife2802]

Maybe, leave the screws in. While they're set in, drill a hole 1 inch above the screw, opposed to drilling out and damaging the original hole. In doing so, the hole will match precisely and less wiggling is needed

[@mrniusi11]

plastic is already formed for a screw though

[@16minimonster16]

So it is better you drill out the hole cleanly with maybe the same size drill bit or something so that it’s a clean hole instead of the screw hole??

[@howiseeit5326]

Why would I create unnecessary holes? Then there’s gonna be 2 holes at the bottom for no reason. I don’t get why it would make a difference if the holes are already made. Your just buffering them out.

[@toddrf]

@@howiseeit5326one reason would that when these pins break (a common complaint) you can put it back together the same way you got it.

[@MarcoPolo-zc6zo]

Great mod! Gonna get one. Pretty sure that handle convinced some knuckleheads to pop the back of my rental while I was taking a nap. They bolted and I kept my tools but I’m not taking any more chances.

[@ivanushka1646]

Hey I just ordered some this morning, thanks for the tutorial

[@VCGConstruction]

Awesome, let us know how you like them once you get them! Thanks!

[@patrickmulcahy8123]

@vcgconstruction hey can you load that up with some weight and see if it holds up? Wondering if it's going too be as sturdy

[@VCGConstruction]

It was loaded up with circ saw, hole hog, super sawzall and batteries! I’ll give it some time and see how they hold up! 👍🏻

[@matthewporter4761]

I ordered 2 sets of the pins after the video.. can’t wait to put them to use..

[@chath709]

Got mine last week...... Love em..

[@ToolReviewZone]

I came over to say hi and show support for this video, but seen the same shirt that I have donated to orphans (along with peanut butter 🥜) being used as a rag. What kind of monster are you 😢

[@VCGConstruction]

Dang, who rated me out TRZ?

[@fernandocf1234]

You guys are acting as little girls. Dejense de chismes y boberias son adultos ya.

[@mikecoxlong2435]

@@fernandocf1234 no tomes la vida tan enserio compa solo porque tu vida es una mierda bo le tienes que cagar el palo a todos

[@tizoc073]

Is a funny monster i love it vcg rules

[@RidgidRon]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRZ AND VCG YOU GUYS ARE SO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!! What are your thoughts on the 3/8 Ridgid impact wrench? Ridgid Ron

[@michaelfulcher6390]

I got the Toughbuilt XXL widemouth rolling bag. I don't have to worry about my handle being too tall.

[@donb8447]

Another youtuber showed his way of making it removable with tractor lynch pins... I drilled several different holes to adjust the handle extended for different stacks of packout.

[@miguelortega6432]

What a professional. How he just clicked that mouse at 2:15. Without even stopping. Streamline. VERY COOL 😎

[@Adobo121]

Lol I liked that you showed the frustration in fixing the frustrating problem

[@WeTheJeeples]

Or go with the FLEX line. Looks just like some of the packout but has solved a lot of the complaints we have including price.

[@marklevasseur5897]

Having a Tonneau Cover, I'm still using the Husky Connect 26" Rolling Tool boxes with the horizontal retractable handle. Wish Milwaukee would make something similar.

[@VCGConstruction]

If I works for ya, keep using it! 👍🏻

[@marklevasseur5897]

@Daniel Herweyer Oh! Thank you so much for sharing. I'll certainly look into this.

[@leftyz707]

Love it. Thanks for the tip. Big ups

[@stephenleepmg113]

Cool idea 💡 I fabricated a locking clamp to hold a 4ft step latter to my Ridgid stack. I am surprised Milwaukee has not done something like that.

[@VCGConstruction]

Milwaukee surprises me a lot as well Stephen!

[@SandraMcRitchie]

Do you have a photo?

[@ToolDeals]

I appreciate you putting on small businesses! Thanks for your service!

[@jasoncrawford2561]

thank you for testing/showing this.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Jason! 👍🏻

[@gilberttrent8593]

I use lock pins from HD. Theyre 3 bucks a piece and are durable. I tried the threaded lock pins but ended up snaping from going up and down stairs in an apartment complex that I was trimming out

[@Socalnik66]

If you don’t mind, which lock pins from Home Depot did you use? These threaded lock pins won’t work for me. I have to drag my heavy Packout over stairs and curbs too. These look like they will snag and eventually break off or strip out the plastic.

[@gilberttrent8593]

@@Socalnik66 yeah they're nice at first but aren't durable at all. If you type in 1/4 inch round head wire lock pin on home depot website it will pop up. I think I got the 1/4 inch by 2 inch one

[@rog3rbee915]

Where did you drill the holes for the lock pins?

[@gilberttrent8593]

@@rog3rbee915 in the same holes where the factory screws are

[@rog3rbee915]

@@gilberttrent8593 so the lock pins go all the way thru the screw holes?…is the handle able to retract down all the way tho?

[@prestigemechanical3600]

Love seeing small companies innovate

[@VCGConstruction]

I agree! 👍🏻

[@joeschmoe5195]

Love your energy and efforts for the small business guy.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Joe!

[@nighthawkron]

I saw those on ETSY and wondered if they were as good as I had read thanks for reviewing them Vince. Looks like I will place an order for them soon. Btw you and Clint are killing me with your ribbing each other.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Ron appreciate that! I’m sure TRZ will be getting me back real soon!

[@artprairie5989]

Thanks for the heads up on the NEAT TOOLS Tip. Keep it up VCG.👍😉

[@dominicfarzetta]

Great video Vince Hope your still able to get to your job sites with the flooding dilemma in philly. Stay safe out there.

[@VCGConstruction]

We appreciate that Dominic! 👍🏻

[@tucobenedicto109]

Knowing is half the battle. Great loking into buying this, and the system.

[@maxlvledc]

I'm sold so fing hard on getting a set, promoting a small business who is solving problems with pride and integrity?! Yes plz.

[@VCGConstruction]

Awesome cuz, I agree! 👍🏻

[@greekmobster]

Love your videos, VCG

[@dnyce9650]

I widened the holes on the handle so the pins find the holes without having to wiggle, awesome

[@sirseven3]

Good product placement with the rag! Nice video definetly getting me a set since my packout stays in a mustang 😂

[@ucitymetalhead]

Yeah that's neat definitely will try to remember these if I ever get that box.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Cuz! 👍🏻

[@andrewavellino6427]

Picked up a box of them rags you got there, I seen this guy from Ohio that wears them as shirts, sheesh. 😆😆😆😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣🤣

[@BuffaloNickel9]

I wipe my muddy boots with those same old rags...same logo. then I don't bother washing, I just lost them

[@ideivagarcia1433]

I like people who are looking for solutions.

[@VCGConstruction]

Totally agree!

[@CSMaaaann]

i just ordered the rolling tote because I couldnt get a modular storage unit under my tonneau cover. Wish i would have seen this first. The rolling tote costs almost as much as the three piece set.

[@rickrhodes4788]

Great solution for handle issues, and great review as always. I wish Milwaukee would upgrade their cheap0 wheels. My Packout is less than a year old, and has a flat spot on one tire; air-up tire options would be nice. Cheers from Texas.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Rick, we appreciate it! 👍🏻

[@kadamson9298]

I second that suggestion. I have the same issue

[@SudburyMan]

Definitely been waiting for the fully collapsible handle said to be released 2024

[@ernestsharkey2867]

Getting ready order this right now thanks.

[@VCGConstruction]

Come back and share your experience here please!

[@davidgallegos5323]

I know a bunch of guys that in no way would want to mess with that wiggle crap including myself there are different pins to use another guy does extremely well done video for the packout system

[@jacksmith3951]

LOVE THAT TOOL BOX TO MAKE POWER BOX WITH

[@jaredrourke3464]

I'm a long time fan and I respect Milwaukee but after seeing this and the many issues with the wheels I'm glad I'm a dewalt guy, quick release handle and super tough wheels. Hopefully they will come out with an updated base

[@keithc40]

From my experience the dewalt latches are junk and the boxes themselves aren’t as durable. The plastic is pretty flimsy. This is what I had issue with their 1.0 and earlier boxes. The 2.0 might be better but I’m already invested as I got my first packout for Xmas 3 years ago and haven’t looked back. Few issues but nothing what I had with dewalt solutions.

[@mikepagel8100]

Just put my pins in. Works great! Super easy to install. 🍻👍🇺🇸

[@Michael_78]

Installing those quick release pins seems more hassle than what they’re worth…..I think I’ll just buy a cargo van instead and ride around with 15 rolling packouts with all the handles fully extended ! LOL

[@SM-dw4ox]

Subtle... very subtle... nice work with that rag ;) 💡👊👏👏👏

[@philipjohn4149]

I did this with different index pins. With a file make the hole in handle more of a slot toward the wheels. The problem is the handle at the bottom will flex a bit when pushing down.

[@toddincabo]

That fist slam at 7:00..... priceless

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣🤣 I was frustrated!

[@NoahKuzel]

My alternative would be to get a different cover for my truck. I don't have time for a quick release pin that will only work a handfull of times.

[@brandonyrks77]

You could before you oversize your holes you could check I that your pin hole is lined up in the handle if not you could re drill you handle hole to make sure it’s a perfect fit

[@wicked.orlando]

neat pins but I do not use in transit so I am good with factory position, but I can see where it becomes an issue

[@upnorth1321]

If you insert the handle and then thread them in flush to handle the pins will line up and perform better bub...

[@Sparkeycarp]

Great solution to a problem I don't have. I have a van and I stack my Packouts to the ceiling. However I would definitely buy them if I had a pickup truck.

[@DR-zj4od]

WHy are these not included by the manufacturer as OEM?

[@nathanhardy3438]

I would redesign my handle with one of those extend+climb ladders..🤔

[@Doyou808]

Good idea, but took longer to set the pin in then to just use the screw gun and take out the screws. Milwaukee should just make the telescoping handle one more layer so it can drop down more.

[@howiseeit5326]

100% it’s such a sad design. Can’t even fit in a standard toolbox.

[@Aepek]

5:03 Dirty Rag, 😂, where you get those “rags” from…cuz they look good quality AND THEY HUGE too 😉😆

[@VCGConstruction]

Me and the Mrs were donating time at the local soup kitchen we were giving those rags away with every bowl of soup! 🤣

[@marcosolo6063]

I use eyelets. Same size as the hole. A few turns out and handle comes out, a few turns in and its locked first time, every time...cost me nothing...just raided my mixed fastners jar

[@jeffalan6339]

Hum wearing orange, Vince you moonlighting at home depot? Now that is cool idea. I park at gas station have to watch my truck make sure my pack out doesn't get taken out.

[@dempseydoodles]

Would widening the holes in the handles a bit help with getting the pins to lock?

[@robertbarnes2419]

Try at da great solution for I have a truck with toneau cover and have to lay the bottom packout down !

[@lordmoreton1762]

I have a similar pins system: A TIP TO HELP you alight the pins is “extended handle first”, when handle is fully extended then slide the handle down. now it’s easier to judge where the hole will be because as soon as you see the black metal part poke out below the red plastic at the bottom you’ve gone too far. with the handle collapsed it’s hard to tell because the internal black metal part slides inside the outer and sits lower (it’s hard to explain! just try it and you’ll see what i mean haha)

[@wlongmore]

Thanks for the tip, will def try this way!

[@johnnycastillo8653]

Great tip! It worked

[@РоманРоманов-э9у]

Good to know. Thank you ! 👍

[@VCGConstruction]

Thank you! 👍🏻

[@Borescoped]

I’m thinking these pins need a follow up review, to see if they wore in after a while

[@VCGConstruction]

Definitely deserves a long term review!

[@TylerMoffatt]

I've been using the WIN717 pins for over a year now. Through snow, up and down stairs, taking the handle off twice a day. Very slight play in the thin metal of the handle. Also I didn't do a perfect install and drilled a slightly larger hole by accident. Held up well (Y)

[@antonio11034]

@@VCGConstruction how they holding up??

[@matt-fn9gr]

I did this and it works great, if it takes longer than 2 seconds your playing with it

[@mariacarneglia8483]

Keep up the great Videos, Reviews and Deals for the Gang!👍🧰👍😍

[@minibikes502matter]

Maybe a little silicone spray on the handle would help things out too? Great channel!!

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Richard, we appreciate it! 👍🏻

[@JGoDly]

Thank you! I love this!

[@toddjrricketts9368]

This is my problem right now with the Dewalt Tough system 2.0, I have the big roll around 20" box but even when I release the handle, there is still about 2" of the handle holder above the top of the lid. If it didn't have those 2 inches, it would fit under my tonneau cover of my nissan frontier. Nissan has a shallow bed from 05-21. The new 2022 models have a deeper bed. And the whole reason of the tonneau cover is so I can keep my tools in the bed and not the cab especially when I have to lug them out on the weekends so I wouldn't get 2k+ worth of tools stolen.

[@ernestsharkey2867]

2016 Frontier owner myself

[@duncdunc76]

Ah yes the Frontier shallow bed rails. Ive got a Hard working 2008 Frontier myself and the whole bed is like a tool box and my Dewalt 1.0 rolling box had to have its whole handle removed for me to fit it under my back flip tonneau cover when I had it on the truck. Kinda sucked but I personally love the shorter bed sides as access into the bed is nice and easy for Loading and unloading stuff from the side. I actually built a custom platform frame out of unistrut that is bed rail high and tied into the utilitrac and braced to the bed floor and I use the top of my bed as a flat bed for hauling all kinds of stuff and it allows the actual bed area itself to remain as a giant tool box for all my tools.

[@Taylor98564]

Possible fix for wheels which break, great storage system! I recently purchased the Milwaukee Packout Rolling Tool Box. So far so good, no issues or complaints. I like the build quality and the fact that the design was very well thought out, I can store a LOT of tools safely and securely, but most importantly in a very neat and organized way. I have added packout boxes to extend the collection. The one big problem I did notice before I bought the box that a lot of buyers have complained that the wheels are the Achilles Heel of the system and can break and fail on the inner wheel hub. The issue seems to stem from the fact that the portion of the inner hub which has a tendency to break has no reinforcement to hold it rigid, there are no wheel spokes or ribs on the inner hub, and hence it is the weakest spot on the wheel. After looking at pictures of the wheels which have broken for other buyers I decided to make a modification to try to strengthen the wheel hub at its weak point. I bought 2 hose clamps, the bands on these hose clamps are 1/2 an inch wide and the inner hub is only 1/4 inch wide so it is too narrow to fit the hose clamp (by the way, the diameter of the wheel hub is 1 1/2 inches). I fixed this issue of the inner wheel hub being too narrow for the 1/2 inch wide hose clamp band by cutting the plastic ribbing on each inner wheel hub back a 1/4 inch on the inner wheel hub with a utility knife and smoothing it out flush with the rest of the inner wheel hub, which gives you a flush flat surface on the inner wheel hub which now is 1/2 an inch wide, which is wide enough to fit the hose clamp on it. You then get two 1/2 inch washers and put one on each side of the axle of the tool box, this washer is to provide enough room that the screw portion of the hose clamp (which protrudes slightly wider than the band of the hose clamp) does not hit or rub on the side of the toolbox as the wheel turns. Tighten the hose clamps as tight as they will go on the inner wheel hubs, make sure you haven't forgotten to add the 1/2 inch washer to each wheel and then reassemble the wheels to the axle using the lock nut that came stock from the factory. It's takes maybe 30 minutes to do all this work but this hose clamp should provide the strength and rigidity that the stock wheel does not have on the inner wheel hub. Hope the pictures help explain what I did. Good luck!

[@maybemaybemaybe8449]

what pictures you talking about willis? Did not know you can post pictures here.

[@SandraMcRitchie]

Got a photo?

[@manuelgonzalez1652]

I have the 3 piece packout set. Is there a security system that enables you to lock them up all together?

[@jennyguess2877]

That's cool to know. Thanks

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Jenny!

[@antman7431]

I wonder if your drill bit walked a little when you drilled the holes, causing the pins to be off center from the holes in the handle..... just a thought

[@cornfedwyteboy2]

Jake of all on KZbin has links in his videos for all kinds of awesome packout accessories and gadgets

[@colekendrick8046]

The kaizen Koller packout handle release is way better you have to pre order but j got it quickly is harder to install but quicker to release and snap back in.

[@jamesrogers4674]

Was around $50 or $60 a couple years ago but was a life changer and worth every penny and minute it took to install. I couldn't haul my tool's and kid's at the same time until I got it.

[@mjc8761]

Nice good little invention 👍

[@VCGConstruction]

We think so! 👍🏻

[@alexnunez4019]

Dope video. Tool zone shade was too funny. I hope yall actually like eachother and this is all for show. Both chanels are DOPE!

[@tappearson2372]

How about a link in the description to their website?

[@fav6587]

Off topic question I hope you can help answer from your good friend’s at Milwaukee Why haven’t they made a smaller more affordable concrete vibrator for small and medium jobs like concrete steps?? AND Just to let them know I’ve tried the 14 inch concrete cut off saw and have to say no to purchase. Heavy and unbalanced although powerful enough just not workable with concrete cuts Thank you guys keep up great work!!! Fernando

[@stevematthews4092]

Noice Vince, enlightening the viewers, supporting local , & helping the little guy to further improve the solution and amend the instructions. Winning every which way. Keep doin what u do. Best tool review u tube channel on the interwebby 💯

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Steve we appreciate that! 👍🏻

[@autiger96]

Great Solution

[@remi1213]

Milwaukee should made an update of this produce!

[@mesanders1113]

I might have to switch over to packouts now

[@busaj383]

Seems like the quick pins are a cool upgrade, but they didn't finish with a completely "upgraded kit" to fix the issue. The handle shaft moves side to side in the slot because it was not designed by Milwaukee to be removed. If u cut some thin pieces of foam or ABS plastic on a slight angle to stick up next to (and glue into place) the handles as a wedge to push the arms over into the correct position for the pins to line up in the holes it will help out with the ease of getting the handle put back in. Sorry to see that a dramatic way of showing how these pins can really help to solve an issue are making some think they are more trouble than they are worth 🙄 Great Solution to a Problem! 👍🏻

[@ToolsandTravelAddict]

Very well👍have a great day