Wow that's a great explanation of my engine design and great vidéo, it's always interesting to read all the comments that are made in regards to my works Thank you everybody. Michel Arseneau engine designer.
@murraymadness46745 ай бұрын
It's always possible to make something more complicated. It could be worse is a universal truth.
@horseblinderson47476 ай бұрын
I'm wondering how it's solving the valve sealing problem, there's a reason popits are still in use.
@duskintheforest5845 ай бұрын
Very close tolerance between rotating valve hole plate and stationary ports plate is my guess
@duskintheforest5845 ай бұрын
Need more intake port holes
@martinerdozain16234 ай бұрын
Was thinking exactly the same
@Neil-z2o25 күн бұрын
They won't be able to without upper cylinder lubrication the out going exhaust gasses will very quickly coke up the disc this has been tried sooo many times, all have failed, the standard Wankle rotary is a disaster with fuel economy and emissions, I can't see this being any better the only thing I can see is the power stroke forces acting upon the same area of the sun gear by the planetary grwars at the same points on each rotation will cause wear and gear backlash they'd need to use a high pressure oil to try and mitigate this and historically these oils are quite a lot thicker causing internal drag also as the engine is shown on its side the oil control rings on the piston will need to be able the stop wash past when hot, I'm not convinced they have a finish design
@joewoodchuck38245 ай бұрын
I can just see the future repair bills for a complex mechanism like this.
@MrShwaggins5 ай бұрын
what if you had 4 of these cylindrical engines and it could be hot swapped and rebuilt for the next customer?
@cedhome79456 ай бұрын
We were allways taught that you should never use equal numbers of gear teeth as wear increases, use unequal numbers
@Nion19572 ай бұрын
Day by day better . Appreciate science and enginers who made that .
@MrShwaggins5 ай бұрын
In the weakness portion of the video, it says its not practical to stack multiple cylinders together because it would make it more complex. I agree with more complex, but if you took 4 of these engine "modules", and attached gearing to the output shaft, wouldn't that distribute the work to turn a driveshaft? Also if cylinder goes bad, this could lead to hot swapping the cylinders making it a bit more complex than removing a coil pack vs affecting the other good cylinders. I think this would be a fun little engine. Imagine making them the size small enough to make a new motorcycle/ATV and you pick how many cylinder engines you want. Each engine moving the driveshaft like rowers on a rowing team.
@InventorWillimczik16 күн бұрын
Great work.
@rdeh16785 ай бұрын
Would luv a breakdown on the TFG engine or LST transmission both are technical wonders with crazy outside the box thinking , luv the content so a def thumbs up and a join
@sanpedroso87214 ай бұрын
Congratulations the world needs to use less elements for low costs on engines.(wise)looking forward to test or try one Avadi engine so compact in my point of view.
@Shadobanned4life5 ай бұрын
The spinning piston will wallow-out the cylinder bore in no-time flat.
@MichianaFisherman6 ай бұрын
Multi cylinder can be done on the other side and retrieve the power from between them?
@horseblinderson47476 ай бұрын
Probably not in order for the head to spin properly so that the exhaust valve still functions the plug needs be centered. Putting a shaft out to top would make that impossible. Through they could go to the other side of the output shaft with a counter rotating piston. Butt that still only leaves you two pistons. However if reciprocal motion is the goal they could mount them in banks synchronized with a chain but use a rack and pinion to get that motion. But the only application I can imagine needing that much relatively short strokes at that much torque would maybe be an air compressor.
@mikehughesdesigns6 ай бұрын
@@horseblinderson4747 Place 2 engines tail-to-tail shaft with one engine built to run the reverse of the other with both pistons reaching TDC simultaneously tho 180 degrees out cycle sync... (intake=0=power) (compression=0=exhaust) (power=0=intake) (exhaust=0=compression0
@travisgravelle76875 ай бұрын
The statement that it's valve train isn't as effective as standard valves because opening limitations is a little off. Standard valves may have the entire opening to work with, but the is still opening and closing effectively limiting the amount of exchange. Only electrically controlled valves, with instant open/close cycles, wouldn't.
@garypippenger2025 ай бұрын
Interesting! Sooner or later, improvements to current tech will be found and improved to the point of commercial viability. But because sustainability will be demanded, it will take some more time. Still, I am encouraged by all this creative activity.
@ramindersingh53Ай бұрын
Awesome
@johncunningham48206 ай бұрын
The IDEA is excellent , but there will inevitably be big problems with Sealing on the Disc Valve system .
@andrewgrillet58356 ай бұрын
And, with all those hot moving parts, hideous levels of wear all over the place.
@mattyb77366 ай бұрын
British and Japanese ( and the Trabant) have been using rotary valve systems for years in air cooled engines. Sleeve valve ( different concept) have also been used in aero engines for years. Bristol Hercules is a prime example. Sealing isn't difficult on rotary valves at all.
@recoilrob3245 ай бұрын
@@mattyb7736 Sleeve valve sealing was NOT an easy thing....took them years of experimentation to come up with alloys that would allow it to work. Even then...they have massive problems that will make any such design unworkable in a modern emission environment. Add in wear and combustion deposits and this over-complicated and overly expensive engine will never see production. Rotary valves work fine in a 2 stroke engine where it's constantly bathed in oil and only seals crankcase compression pressures and doesn't deal with combustion temperatures, pressures and deposits. The modern piston engine is a highly developed device with over a hundred thirty years of constant improvement. Any new engine design must be better in at least a couple areas of cost, performance, durability and efficiency while not being behind in any of them...or it's not an improvement and won't be successful.
@johncunningham48205 ай бұрын
@@mattyb7736. If the Technology was Efficient and trouble free we would still SEE disc valves in use . We don't . Disc Valves would have BIG problems from Soot in the Exhaust Gases . Two-Stroke crankcase induction Rotary Valves do offer a good Compression seal is true , but Reed Valves are just as efficient and far cheaper and more Robust . And the Bristol Hercules , eh , with its Sleeve Valves . Same Carbon problem as a Rotary Valve PLUS because there were Two sleeves , one inside the other , the set-up Blocks the Heat rejection path ESSENTIAL for not melting the Pistons . The Hercules was an extremely Unreliable unit . A Dog of an Engine . Just what you need in an Aeroplane Engine , eh ? We can all quote shit off KZbin and Wikipedia as Gospel , but having SOME ACTUAL knowledge to Filter the information with surely helps .
@jtuttle116 ай бұрын
Actually, In ANY reciprocating or Piston engine the speed of the reciprocating mass (Piston,connecting rod assembly) is constantly in a state of acceleration and deceleration. A property that is directly influenced by the 'Rod Ratio' (The length of the connection rod measured from wrist pin center to crankshaft journal center) Ideally this ratio is 1.9 (Rod Length) to 1 (crankshaft throw from top dead center to bottom dead center) As the crank rotates, the speed of the piston/rod assembly changes.
@pashakdescilly75176 ай бұрын
Using the rotating cylinder to expose inlet and exhaust ports means that this is a version of sleeve valves. Are the ports in the upper cylinder wall or the end of the cylinder?
@rawcado6 ай бұрын
Too bad they didn't show that in the animation, we'll probably never know.
@Devo4915 ай бұрын
It's in the head, as shown 2:30. A horizontal disc with a hole in it rotates to uncover the appropriate port
@SMSundaram3 ай бұрын
A Multi cylinder 180 degrees opposing piston configuration is very much plausible on same shaft and with a pinion, which again can be arranged around a bigger toothed flywheel to tandem multiple such opposing twin cylinder combinations around the toothed flywheel shaft, which has been missed here I presume. A novel design indeed ❤
@adoreslaurel5 ай бұрын
I can't figure out how the crank and rods are connected to the output shaft?
@BrickEngines6 ай бұрын
No they don’t balance each other out, there’s a rocking couple
@BrickEngines6 ай бұрын
For whoever is currently confused, I’m talking about this timestamp here: 4:43
@AndyRRR07916 ай бұрын
and a large torsion on the conrod and bearings.
@ThiagoMarquardt6 ай бұрын
Center of mass still centralized
@AndyRRR07916 ай бұрын
@@ThiagoMarquardt The thrust force of each conrod at the gudgeon pin is offset from the piston axis so will cause a torque that will be reacted by the conrod bearing edges. Also the counterweights are not coplanar so they will generate a rotating couple.
@jamest.50015 ай бұрын
Maybe the crank/output shaft can be held stationary, with the case spinning. And line cylinders beside one another. With the gears connecting the cases. One with cw rotation, the next with ccw rotation. Put as many as needed together, with a bevel gear output, possibly on both ends.. with possibly 6 in a row, with 800cc per cylinder. Eq 4.8L and possibly another 6 can be added beside these 9.6L is plenty for any streetcar Especially running 2-3 bar of intercooled boost with a revised head incorporating a cam ring and poppet valves. Or use sleeve valve tech. Giving greater performance , having the cylinder spin with the head basically stationary could be something to figure out. However I think having a similar rod and crank could be used in a more traditional engine , I think the two piston in a single cylinder is the best configuration get that setup in a cross flow design to keep the cool cold , and the hot warm, prevent heat in the intake. I feel adding a sleeve valve, or slide valve to the design can improve it greatly. Allowing port timing to be changed for greater performance or economy .
@AndyRRR07916 ай бұрын
This has a lot in common with the RCV engine. I'm not sure the balancing advantages won't outweigh the torque that this concept applies to the conrods and their bearings.
@italoalbanese21072 ай бұрын
1) It would be easy to put on a standard cilinder head, if needed. Some old motors and the Kawasaki W bikes nowadays use a side shaft with conical gears to spin the camshaft. 2) Two cylinder could be connected directly in a flat plane
@cadcaetutorial20395 ай бұрын
So amazing sir
@fredschmidt31482 ай бұрын
I like this design since it gets rid of cam shafts and helps cut shaft rpm right of the gate making a transmission much simpler.
@carmelpule84935 ай бұрын
As the two connected rods are offset from centre, on explosion, the piston will be subjected to a torque and the two connected rods will twist trying wrapping themselves around each other. It is a novel design for academic research in geometrical linkage and structure and lubrication..
@georgeomondiomondi3486Ай бұрын
This engine looks pretty cool, I am just wondering why you have not mentioned it to be used in flying cars. For me ,it can work well in that field too.
@timothymcgovern72796 ай бұрын
A 50cc version would be ideal for a Chain-saw-greatsword. Get on it.
@philoso3776 ай бұрын
Nice video and presentation. One think that pop in my mind is that angular momentum in the twin gears wanted a stationary axis and not steered by the gear arrangement. The design must deal with eddy forces in the system to address extra stress, mass, friction, wear and efficiency penalty.
@edsonsilva80153 ай бұрын
In my humble opinion, the piston did not need to rotate with the connecting rods, it could have a bearing in which the connecting rods were on a platform and there would be less wear on the piston and cylinder!
@sonnyboyd94865 ай бұрын
As illustrated, that engine cannot exist. The crankshaft would have to be split in the middle to allow the two pieces to counter-rotate. Way too much rotating mass and gear friction. It will never be used for anything except as an example of what not to do.
@whataboutbob79675 ай бұрын
The tortional loads on the rod journals will hog the bearings out rapidly. Hard to build multi cylinders. I don't see an oiling system. It's very complex to machine
@papawhelp5 ай бұрын
I just do not see how the output shaft is turning. I see the big gear stationery , but the shaft it's attached to is moving...
@Imagineering1005 ай бұрын
The large gear is stationary the crank and other gear are part of the output shaft.
@billbunting4253Ай бұрын
This engine is perfect for power generation with a single slower speed shaft directly driving a generator. Immersed in the core of a hot water cylinder where the engine heat provides domestic hot water while charging batteries during non solar periods. Liquid Piston should be filling this role, but, like Aptera, will never produce a commercial product.
@christmassnow34655 ай бұрын
Is it possible to build a two-stroke Avadi engine?
@MultiCconway22 күн бұрын
This engine would be perfect for dual fuel (gasoline/LP) in an Auxiliary Power application. This engine screams Hybrid-Electric Drive!
@Rok3y3 ай бұрын
I wonder weather if the two stroke engine is more suitable for a vehicle that's supposed to be destroyed after reaching a destination. I think 2 stroke engine contains less parts and less cost ?
@matthewmoilanen7875 ай бұрын
The camahaft rotates at "half" the speed of the crankshaft in a 4stroke engine not "twice" as fast. And the secondary balance issues seem to be taken care of with a simple counterbalancer. That valve design has been tried in aircraft engines of the past but an alloy able to withstand the operating temps hasn't been found yet I don't believe. Current metallurgy tech may solve this but I'm unsure if it has been developed yet. Lastly piston side loading from the angular movement of the rods still exists in this engine but is now combined with rotary motion as well so I don't understand how it would decrease puston wear. In short this engine seems like the answer to a question that isn't being asked.
@Devo4915 ай бұрын
....and the imaginary sparkplug fires the mixture by spooky action at a distance.....
@Mike-hr6jz5 ай бұрын
If you put one engine facing another at the crankshaft itself, and a sprocket between the two, he would have a two cylinder, which would scale it up a bit sort of like a BMW to use it for a motorcycle application
@brent35692 ай бұрын
It should be quite a good match for a range extender in a hybrid car generator
@wishbone12825 ай бұрын
How long will it last?
@msnreddy84 ай бұрын
great invention.
@pauljcampbell29975 ай бұрын
Disc valve sealing will be an issue. Also gear noise. How to do multi cylinder?
@robertmorris92756 ай бұрын
This design still has reciprocating mass, I know of a rotary design ( not the wankel as used in Mazda's ) having 90 degree firing sequence, massive torque at low RPM, only 5 moving parts. Just need recognition, the piston engine as we know it will be ancient history
@311Bob6 ай бұрын
Why not move the valve in the cylinder like 2 stroke? With the cylinder wall already rotating would seem an easy and timing sinch
@ViralCast-eh1gc3 ай бұрын
my friend pls check omega engine which produces 150 hp at 1200 rpm can go upto 25000rpm max having 18kg weight with more than 50% heat efficiency ...... its literaly a breakthrough in automobile engine history ....
@rurikviloria645 ай бұрын
can be installed directly to individual tires,making it four cylinder
@Velodynamic3 ай бұрын
Looks like a mechanic's nightmare 😂
@JK-zl7vv5 ай бұрын
Since this engine is restricted for air intake flow, it would benefit greatly by using a turbo charger, to make up its loss by the design, giving this engine an incredible increase in power, the designer of this engine needs to seriously think about making a turbo part of its design function, which would allow this motor to be usable in more applications such as personal aircraft, motorcycles, snowmobiles, lawn mowers such as zero turns, etc. 😎👍
@Iowa5996 ай бұрын
That valve system is very similar to sleeve valves, like used in the Hurrican radial engine. It will burn oil.
@Imagineering1005 ай бұрын
It does not have sleeve valve it uses a rotary port in the top of the combustion chamber.
@Iowa5995 ай бұрын
@@Imagineering100 sliding door valves, very similar to sleeve valves
@beflabbergasted3255 ай бұрын
I see the piston going around not the cylinder. Am I missing something?
@kurtdobson6 ай бұрын
Too many moving parts = extra friction.
@Tom-np4mwАй бұрын
It woud be the right engine to power ultralight airplanes in a version with maybe 40 or 50 hp.😊
@josemathew90876 ай бұрын
Gear teeth may not withstand heavy dynamic forces for long period. Noice level will be high.
@311Bob6 ай бұрын
Not to be a smart ass but differential? Can take quite a pounding
@ThiagoMarquardt6 ай бұрын
Gear teeth may not withstand? I can't remember a case where a teeth failed in a gearbox with a lot more load
@josemathew90876 ай бұрын
@@ThiagoMarquardt lmpact by power stroke act directly on crankshaft and resisted by inertia of crankshaft and flywheel. Hence impact on trasmission gears is diffused and not get damaged.
@ezequielsanuy88956 ай бұрын
Los engranajes conicos chicos y la corona no estan ahí para aumentar el torque sinó para sincronizar las bielas para que no se despatarren. Porque la corona esta quieta como punto de referencia... ya que para que actue como caja reductora deberia girar.
@MohdZakir-xp8im2 ай бұрын
I was thinking that avadi engine will replace the EVs because of its performance,while it has short comings in terms of durability and long lasting
@jesuspp51575 ай бұрын
I would like to see more tests
@Iowa5996 ай бұрын
Honda CBR250 makes more than twice the power than that does...
@isaiahbenson43395 ай бұрын
U miss the point of the power to weight ratio. Plus the honda engine isn't aircooled.
@Iowa5995 ай бұрын
@@isaiahbenson4339 isn't this video to show off a "new & amazing" engine?
@isaiahbenson43395 ай бұрын
@@Iowa599 Is that not what the video is doing?
@Iowa5995 ай бұрын
@@isaiahbenson4339 it is an amazing piece of shit.
@rdeh16785 ай бұрын
Its like a marriage between a wankle and the TFG , on a much smaller scale, honestly this would be a great idea for a range extender in ev cars
@brettmoore31945 ай бұрын
Why only up to 800cc? 🎉
@rumpoh80394 ай бұрын
TOO MANY MOVING PARTS TOO MUCH FRICTON
@kurthammack9867Ай бұрын
Where were all these engines 40 years ago? It's a little late now!
@Joedoeswhat5 ай бұрын
Be good in a hybrid i would think or a generator
@amirqureshi7774 ай бұрын
ROTATING PISTON AND ITS RINGS CAUSE MUCH MORE DAMAGE TO PISTON CYLINDER.
@philipfreeman725 ай бұрын
I prefer the opposed piston engine .
@Shawnmaclean-rj1uz5 ай бұрын
I don’t get it if the ring gear is stationary
@flemmingqvist83262 ай бұрын
The invention of this engine is impressive. The fact that it can operate and create a decent power is remarkable. However an IC engine with a real crankshaft is still the champion. Almost good is not good enough. I dont see it as superior to a 4-stroke or 2-stroke engine in any way. In a few years this engine will be one more engine that did'nt make it to the market.
@ronstiles2681Ай бұрын
Question the piston rotates what about ring wear will the ring groves wear? Please respond
@lajosvozarik37474 ай бұрын
Nem említették a forgó henger csapágyazását és a csapágy élettartamát sem, pedig a hőterhelés miatt a henger csapágya jelentős igénybevételnek van kitéve. Csak az előnyökről volt szó.
@AbdulHafeez-cq6oo5 ай бұрын
A different engine for drone application
@Olivier_The_Dilettante5 ай бұрын
Crankcase and gears together using common lubrication has failed totally, as seen used in decades ago in BMC Morris/Austin cars.
@timothym22414 ай бұрын
It is commonly used on motorcycles, with great success.
@craigescapeddetroit51985 ай бұрын
Combine a Differential and plenty more parts, then spin it like a washing machine to wear it out as fast as possible. SLSTM Sounds Like Sh-t To Me.
@jjwalter58975 ай бұрын
All considered this has little advantages over conventional engines. As for twice the torque transmissions have been accomplishing that for a century. I will commend the effort. Sometimes we have to see where an idea goes. But there was little thought spent on the disadvantages. The applications of a single piston overly complicated engine are few. As for weight, better than a one cylinder conventional engine, but adding cylinders would make it much heavier than a comparable V8. This engine is not worth it's fabrication cost.
@aggabus3 ай бұрын
800 cc x 18.75 = Cummings isx 15
@gsestream6 ай бұрын
single-axle boosted tesla turbine ice engine is much better. it uses external carburetor style burner and is boosted by tesla turbine intake and torque is generated in the same axle on a second tesla turbine stack. yep much simpler than normal axial turbine ice engines and better than wankel rotary ice engine. of course its not patented or patentable or locked down as anyone's ip.
@anvilsvs4 ай бұрын
Ah, Rube Goldberg lives! This is the last time you'll ever hear of this mess.
@buildingracingvideos47145 ай бұрын
A 50cc 2 stroke can make more power
@captainaxle4383 ай бұрын
Flawed in so many ways. The stop and go forces of the piston will harm the gears, etc. Full of friction, etc.
@willipine18636 ай бұрын
piston rings will move out of alignment
@marcokahny7095 ай бұрын
Not only that but rings and pistons will be worn out in a month if the piston is aluminum
@arthurgay57466 ай бұрын
Not enough moving parts !!!
@eddieR-yy3sy3 ай бұрын
Too much contact area and Friction surface.
@shanemitchell4775 ай бұрын
1. Too heavy, the weight of the 2 connecting rods and all the gearing would make it a low rpm, low hp engine. 2. I can see scoring on the cylinder walls now, the same as a rotary. 3. 4 strokes suck...2 strokes truck....try and get 180hp from a 500cc 4 stroke without any massive amount of forced induction, there are many GP motorcycles that do this without any forced induction, even above 200hp.
@grumpy35435 ай бұрын
Looks like a lot of moving parts to fail
@feizal75544 ай бұрын
gears to make torque. what cheating. !!! That is not derived from the power produced by the engine. so its the same as calculating other engines post transmission.
@Baribrotzer2 ай бұрын
This just seems like a Great Bad Idea. When you get down to it, it's a one-lunger with a really complicated crankshaft arrangement and iffy valves. There's a certain elegance to it, but I don't really see the practicality, or why or how it's better than a conventional Single. Plus, a Single can be stacked all the way up to a Six without adding great complexity. This can't.
@arthurwagar885 ай бұрын
Piston is rotating not the cylinder. Bye.
@jameswarner74355 ай бұрын
Actually, as far is I can tell both the cylinder and the piston are rotating.
@turbo32coupe2 ай бұрын
Rotary valves don't have longevity
@ozancatak56185 ай бұрын
😂
@waynec3695 ай бұрын
F'ck me... there's only ONE crankshaft in that engine ffs. A single shaft with two throws. There's two conn. rods...
@brucedale44654 ай бұрын
A avati sounds like another junk Italian junk brand that will never be reliable!
@johnhili86645 ай бұрын
Too many moving parts for such a small engine a lot of wear and tear!!!!👎👎👎
@rosewhite---Ай бұрын
rubbish idea and waste of time! cost of precicion gears, rotating valve wearinf very quickly when dirt gets in it...etc etc etc..
@leopardtiger1022Ай бұрын
Over engineering. Ask the Japanese if this is good or not?
@machwind32665 ай бұрын
Nope.
@jeffsoyk69942 күн бұрын
This is stupid
@Patel_lion2 ай бұрын
Not success
@williamleonardo84784 ай бұрын
It would work perfect in a generator
@joesmallan44064 ай бұрын
All This Stuff is Fine Coming From a Rocket Scientist But No Matter How You Lay it Out You've Still Got The Same Ole Same Ole Same Ole Combustion Engine !!!! Until Y'all Can Show Me a Propulsion Unit That Don't Burn Gas or Use Electricity I Recon My Eyebrows Won't Be Raising Any plus This Engine Has Way To Many Moving Parts !!!!! 🇺🇸👍🏻