Skyrim's INSANE God

In our latest Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim video we discuss Akatosh, Alduin, Auriel, Ruptga, Satakal and all gods that could be seen as a version of the time god. Is the Time God Insane?
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series and was released worldwide on November 11, 2011. The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim.
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[@silverwingdragon4161]

TES fans: "What are you, an elven god, a dragon, or a giant cat?" Akatosh: "Yes."

[@sekarmaltum1695]

here

[@allmight9840]

Beware flixone it is spam

[@stonythechimist4250]

More like “Yes?”

[@korimcentire5367]

If one is Time, it would stand to reason. That it is all that time entails.

[@fauzanabdulkahfi957]

Well not anymore since monkey seperate akatosh from auriel

[@dudel3565]

Fudge: Akatosh is a Mad God. Sheogorath: *Cheese music stops*

[@faithhamer8438]

What if Sheogorath/Jyggalag is just another splinter of Akatosh but Sheogorath is just too nuts to articulate it?

[@dirge44]

@@faithhamer8438 nah he's a deadra so that's impossible. He wasn't one of the ones who made nirn

[@yohef4537]

Sheogorath has entered the chat

[@CloudsGirl7]

Record scratch, but it's a cheese wheel. 😂

[@Chrysamer77]

Akatosh is more unhinged than Sheogorath

[@Lava_Plays]

Akatosh is like the player character that tries to do all the quests, even though some quests contradict the motives/themes of other quests. Like how the Archmage of the College of Winterhold could suddenly decide to become a two-handed axe wielding Companion of Jorrvaskr. Then after all that "Fight for honor business", he decides to become a slippery thief in the Thieves Guild. How can the player character be the honorable Harbinger of the Companions AND the listener of the Dark Brotherhood? It's like we ourselves experience the multiple personalities that the Dragonborn has, or like how Akotosh is split into other names with motives. Then after everything is done that can be, he creates a new game.

[@muslimcrusader5987]

What’s the song in the beginning

[@Crazylom]

So Akatosh is essentially player factor?

[@maki1177]

this makes sense😳🤯

[@wanderingbufoon]

Then Lorkhan is that bug that crashes the game altogether

[@ovidiufarcau243]

that`s why Players become the god of Madneess - Sheogorath !

[@TOUGHEYES]

Funny how it was Alkosh that stopped Pelinal Whitestrake from wiping out the Khajiit. Its like he stopped the man in his vengeful anguish, and infact had to stop him. Because who else could understand someone so torn by grief from his love that he had gone mad, and unstable by their very nature, than a mirrored counterpart in the Divines whose losing control of himself the more time goes forward? It's a Massive Bro moment that is lost to Tamrielic Folklore.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Says a lot about Pelinal tho, he was really gonna wipe out potentially a whole race of Khajit all because he thought they were Elves. Which means he wasn't gonna kill them for anything wrong they did or anything, but just for the sole fact that they were born as "Mer". I know he was pissed about the Aylieds but his hatred for all Mer is a bit much

[@____________838]

He is human rage incarnate, given form by the divine.

[@gelonvia8525]

@@thalmoragent9344 If you consider the idea of how he essentially created Man through the wanderers, and thus that makes them his children especially with how alot of them view him in their pantheons, then its understandable why his rage would be so strong for people raping, enslaving, torturing, and abusing his children, especially since these are the ones that thank him and love their life, while the opposite view the existence of life as a trap due to the beliefs of the Ayleid Pantheon of Divines. A bunch of ungrateful god wannabee's are killing his beloved children (or grand children, depending how you view them.) It definitely becomes very understandable why he would be so ragefilled, especially as a god that's not in the right mind causing him to take things way too far and kill Mer who didn't deserve it, like Khajit and Bosmer.

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@gelonvia8525 True, he was basically the most stereotypical Pro Man/Anti Mer Warrior ever. We also have to remember that Alessia had a great deal of Aylied Allies, some even remained as Vassals in her Empire so as to help the humans rule for some time, so there are plenty of innocent and even good Aylieds along with other Mer, but yeah, Pelinal is the embodiment of what Lorkhan and Wandering Ehlnofey stand for, and it sucks many innocents died all because he had a hatred for them and their Et'Ada ancestor, which funny enough, he technically betrayed, or at least depending on the point of view. Then again, it sucks because ever since after the Dawn/early Merethic Era, the Elves have always been on a loosing, downward trend. I feel Bethesda has intentionally or unintentionally tried to make the Mer the "big bad and evil force", whilst giving the Humans Plot Armor to kill them as the "objective good", Even though many innocent Mer have been killed in the process. It's either "they started it" or "they all deserve it" or "Man good and Mer bad", and it's the same cycle every time, no matter how heinous or not so bad things the Mer do to Humans, all the while, any atrocities commited by humans are always either forgiven or just hand waved as "Ah well, it happens, they're still cool". As a big fan of the races of Mer, it's a shame to see Pelinal being seeing as an objective hero who's "done nothing wrong", even though there's always 2 sides to the story, or in this case, to the "hero" himself. Sorry for the long rant, it's just that... man, I feel the Mer always get the short end of the stick, no matter what they do, it's always genocide for them in the end. Humans often have plot armor in Fantasy though, so the thought of an "innocent elf" goes over the heads of a lot of fans.

[@idipped2521]

The whole TES universe is a bro moment that lasts forever tbf

[@RaynmanPlays]

Me: "Ah, this one would certainly like to hear more about Skooma Cat." FudgeMuppet: "What a grand and intoxicating innocence."

[@s7Matt]

What about me? I thought it would be another Sheogorath theory hahahahaha!

[@RaynmanPlays]

@@s7Matt Spoiler: Skooma Cat is the Khajiit version of Sheogorath.

[@s7Matt]

@@RaynmanPlays and he is the one who cursed Akatosh into dividing him into two personalities: Auri-El and Alduin ~conspiracy theory

[@insaincaldo]

I'm just like why did he question that Khajiit have two in one god, the many faced cats, who's whims change with the moons?

[@SkoomaCat]

O.o

[@EdStrings]

Akatosh can’t cope with the fact that all his accomplishments have Lorkhan fingerprints all over them 😏

[@callmecalvin7297]

Yeeeeeeeup

[@callmecalvin7297]

And Elf betas ask why we hate Them so much...

[@ladyselin35]

Shor did nothing wrong!

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

What role does Time play without Mortality? Akatosh has no true purpose without the work of Lorkhan, and despises him for it.

[@____________838]

@@Im-Not-a-Dog Does Akatosh, or does Auriel?

[@sekijokes451]

Akatosh being a sort of synthesis between Auriel and Shor is a great interpretation. And what pray tell is one of Akatosh's most influential creations? The beings known as "Dragonborn". Immortal Aedric souls within a mortal shell. Powerful beings within a limited form. Limits that they're encouraged to overcome. The best of Auriel and Lorkhan rolled into one.

[@denakarganta1502]

Akatosh is literally my favorite diety in TES due to both the insane nature of him but also how he is generally speaking pretty awesome, so I'm glad you guys made a video on him.

[@denakarganta1502]

Also please do a podcast on Akatosh and his connections to Lorkhan because I have theory that both the Time God(s) and Lorkhan (Space) are not really opposed to each other and are only enacting the each Kalpa's events only letting the Kalpa being reset and that both will always make sure there is an avatar or representative of their influence to help keep the cycle going. For Akatosh/Auriel it could be seen through the Covenant with Alessia, the Avatar of Akatosh (Martin Septim), and even the Last Dragonborn as though he/she may be Shezzarine they also prevented Auriel's Bow from falling into Vampiric hands, Stopped Alduin and even defeated Miraak for his betrayal of Akatosh's purpose for him, ( to stop Alduin though the dragonblood may have corrupted him). With Lorkhan, his representatives could be seen through figures such as Talos (Hjalti,Ysmir,and Zurin Arctus), again the Dovahkiin, and even through figures such as Wulf who was seen in Morrowind. And what did all figures do, they kept the kalpic cycle ongoing despite the apocalyptic events occuring which we dealt with literally.

[@LadyLexyStarwatcher]

Mortal: "Is the time god insane? " Sheo: "Don't worry your pretty little head. No really, don't."

[@LadyLexyStarwatcher]

I love these sort of things. You really dig deep and kinda just find one thing. There is no other, there is no apart, or separate. Everyone is a part of the same one being, the God Head. Like, digging too deep in anything leads to either zero sum or chim in this world. Where did Bob go? I don't know, he was staring at a flower for a day then just disappeared. Also weirdly, now the hill he was sitting is absolutely covered in flowers.

[@rhysjones7641]

Ya know, over the years Drew’s voice has gotten to Bob Ross levels of relaxing, in my humble opinion.

[@albreal]

"happy little dremora, over here. And one more, because everyone needs a friend"

[@nodicebrz6836]

I literally use this channel as ASMR for sleep. I love hearing about ES lore and all of their voices are super mellow and relaxing

[@emiliaantti6669]

Absolutely 🤘😔 This man's voice soothes my soul

[@HyprHotshot]

No one who is actually humble calls themself humble

[@HyprHotshot]

@@nodicebrz6836 hahahaha gayyyyy

[@Seifiros]

If in Elder Scrolls VI Bethesda doesn't make easter eggs with Drew as an aspect of Xarxes, Michael as Shrek with dual axes and Scott as an argonian shellback, I will riot.

[@idipped2521]

I'm sure they will have some Fudgemuppet easter egg, but everything you mentioned is just too much

[@Seifiros]

**sigh** It's a riot then..

[@Squat5000]

It will have none. It's Microsoft now. Think fallout 76 was bad? Just wait for this disappointment.

[@idipped2521]

@@Squat5000 Yea what happened with DOOM eternal today has me really worried and the fanboys shilling for microtransactions don't give me hope

[@Seifiros]

Aah, I see we're back into the depressing reality of modern videogame industry. Let's not go there, lest we find nothing but dissapointment and anger. In all seriosness, I am more keen to place my hopes into the amazing modding community. By that I mean those who make legit technical improvements and lore friendly addons, not those who've turned skyrim into nsfw anime.

[@jonathanrealman8415]

I always thought that the Elder Scrolls' sweetest irony is in Akatosh and Lorkahn. Akatosh the god created by the limitless created the greatest boundary, time. Lorkahn the god created by infinite limitation is working to remove all limitations via the royal sylibil of chim and eventually the moving past chim and the godhead. It is very ironic that it's the spirit of allness created all the limitations we know while the spirit of limitation is what is trying to set you free.

[@ethandonnachie]

so early i just watched volendrung fly through the sky from morrowind to hammerfell

[@lolosh99]

Nice profile pic

[@muslimcrusader5987]

What’s the song in the beginning

[@LysergicKids]

I find it interesting how Bethesda uses Akatosh/Auri-El as a resolution to contradictory lore and retconning. Bethesda's use of gods as narrative devices is incredibly clever. It gives them a certain amount of freedom with the lore that would otherwise be impossible. While simultaneously making the lore more interesting and "whacky". I can't wait to see how they justify the existence of sword singers and Anesi in TES 6🙃

[@OfficiallyMaidenless]

Dada life sausage fattener sighted 👀

[@starsnstrife]

You too.

[@Skypothesis]

Always love these lore vids. Thank you guys for keeping Elder Scrolls magic alive while we wait eternally for TES VI!!!

[@muslimcrusader5987]

What’s the song in the beginning?

[@infra_r3d133]

Here so early I met the first incarnation of M’aiq the Liar...at least that’s what he told me...

[@SilverFang2789]

Who in Oblivion is Malik?

[@infra_r3d133]

@@SilverFang2789 - Lmao, I had a moment, I’ve edited the post to reflect the character I was referencing.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Akatosh released Pelinal to free man from the elves, and Alkosh ensured that Pelinal stayed the course when his rage led him astray. They served the singular purpose of directing Pelinal at the elves, only in different guise.

[@denakarganta1502]

To add on to that it, with some theories stating that Pelinal is a Shezzarine and a time-traveller that could mean both Time and Space (Akatosh and Lorkhan) worked together to help the Alessia's Rebellion. Which could mean that both Shezzar and Aka helped the Rebellion and that to an extent maybe Auriel and Lorkhan weren't as opposed to each other as we thought, but who knows considering the nature of the series with an unreliable narrator

[@muslimcrusader5987]

@@denakarganta1502 To add to that it could make sense since the Elves are the children of Auriel and the Ayleids turned their backs on the Aedra to worship Meridia. The Alessia Revolt could have just been Auriel’s divine punishment.

[@slimretro2659]

@@denakarganta1502 I strongly believe that Akatosh and Shor no longer have this petty feud and are just collabing on things like the alessian empire when mortals are fighting for their supposed "beef".

[@denakarganta1502]

@@slimretro2659 possibly, I view it like they have an agreement or contract, that both will work together to keep the Kalpa going until the current cycle has come to an end and when it is Aka's turn to reset everything regardless of form so for example forms of Aka like Alduin or Sahtakal ending the current world for the next. Then everything will occur again with the feud but then slowly things settle down and the preservation of the Kalpa takes highest priority and rinse and repeat

[@muslimcrusader5987]

What’s the song in the beginning?

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Is it possible that Akatosh split himself into multiple personalities in order to watch each race and keep a full record of time?

[@muslimcrusader5987]

It’s possible

[@korimcentire5367]

Well yeah.... omnipotent, within all things at all times. Time is past present, and future. Therefore it is all of time. Neither good, nor evil. Just is.

[@muslimcrusader5987]

@@korimcentire5367 he’s not omnipotent. Only the Godhead is

[@korimcentire5367]

@@muslimcrusader5987 I thought the godhead was within no control of the dream.

[@muslimcrusader5987]

@@korimcentire5367 It’s his dream. His reality. When you dream, the whole experience is your creation. You’re the centre of it all too.

[@thegamingpigeon3216]

The merging together and ubiquitous nature of the gods between the pantheons fascinates me. If Auri-El and Akatosh are essentially the same and in turn Alduin *is* Akatosh (I know this is just speculation but bear with me), it would've been cool if they added new dialogue in the Dawnguard DLC if you used Auri-El's bow while fighting Alduin and he commented on it.

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

How I see it is Auri-El embodies the beginning of time, as he was worshipped by the elves in the Dawn Era. Alduin is the natural opposite, the end of time and restart of the cycle. Akatosh is the present, as he came about by stripping away the Auri-El and Alduin bits with the tower dance (and what was left was also the schizo twin of Shor/Lorkhan, but thats a whole different story)

[@cr90captain89]

@@BroadwayRonMexico alduin hates elves & man, & im pretty sure that the ender of time is a firstborn of akatosh. because after the player completes the main storyline, parthurnaax is melancholy on the death of his brother. he even say's that alduin was the crown of their fathers creations & that the world would never be the same.

[@Super50ldier]

@@BroadwayRonMexico Shezarr/Shor/Lorkhan.

[@Super50ldier]

@@cr90captain89 Alduin doesn't hate Elves or Humans, Elves love him while the Atmorans and their descendants the Nords fears him.

[@Super50ldier]

@@cr90captain89 No, Akatosh was created from stripping Auri-El and Alduin bits and adding the aspects of Shezarr/Shor/Lorkhan, his brother.

[@sylph4252]

I love the "concept organ" running gag

[@jclarkev]

Such a big concept organ meme

[@Hypercane_]

Literally have been binging every video on this channel first video to come out that is new for me

[@madpro7202]

Welcome to the community. Its a good one to be a part of

[@FudgeMuppet]

Welcome!

[@Sammybree]

So early that the guard isn't an adventurer yet, hence his knee is intact.

[@sonoflethal]

LMAOOO THATS LIKE THE THING THEY SAY!!!!!! LMFAOOOOOOO THEY SAY THAT IN THE GAME!!!!!

[@sonoflethal]

And also you said it the wrong way round, the adventure wouldn't be a guard yet

[@Whiskeey666]

so early in fact that the guard is a young napper at honorhall orphange in riften

[@RayAkuma]

I love the memes

[@Sammybree]

I saw 19 likes and I was like damn I guess I did good and then read the comments.... RIP

[@Lcgx]

When Drew gets on the mic my brain starts twisting to his honeyed words.

[@FBI-ju5no]

He has a way with words.

[@torstenw5723]

Almost too honeyed...I find myself almost not even hearing what he's saying sometimes

[@Lcgx]

@@torstenw5723 im right there with you haha

[@tylertubemc8973]

Holy shit... the beginning narrative was chillingly good.

[@muslimcrusader5987]

Do you know what the song playing in the background is?

[@SpaceWaterfall1]

Man, this made me genuinely feel bad for a fictional god and almost tear up too. Being torn apart into different deties and entities by others and by simply existing, getting more fractured and losing yourself more as time passes, what an tortures and painful existance must that be? It kinda reminds me a bit of Dementia and Alzheimer, which occur more often in old age and is preatty tragic for not only the person suffering it, but also all their loved ones. I'm not an expert in the matter and I'm not taking that illness lightly, but I see parallels between the fragmentation and insanity ofAkatosh/Auriel/Alduin/Aka/etc. with dementia. I might be completly wrong or not, but I just wanted to throw out my thoughts on this.

[@echos5823]

How to make TES fandom explode, say Alduin is Akatosh is Auri-el.

[@callmecalvin7297]

Isn't that p. Much true? Auri-El is beginning, Aka is the middle, the living and breaking, And Alduin is the end. All aspects of time, limits, and meanig

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

@@callmecalvin7297 when I read about all three I realized they were the one and same. Different aspects but same.

[@Pidgeon182]

@WorldUnited Yep, I believe the story is that a group of Alessian Order cultists performed a ritual that split Akatusk into 3 different parts, and caused a wound in time that took over a 1000 years to resolve. I have a bit of a weird theory that the "Akatosh" personality was merged with Lorkhan/Shor during this ritual, but I have very little evidence other than speculation on that one.

[@tezz2698]

@@callmecalvin7297 they're not that well organized. It's more like one god with several personalities/aspects born from the different versions of him that people worship.

[@litewave5186]

@@Pidgeon182 you're not the only one. The wiki mentions that time also had "limitations", aka the existence of Kalpas, and yet limitations are Lorkhan's thing, and his name isn't even mentioned as a part of that.

[@LoganMPierce]

Drew, to say that you put out great content would be a huge understatement.

[@osian3854]

It get's even weirder when you think about the godhead as well.

[@WVLFRVN]

Giggidy

[@samuelkristensen6685]

Am I the only one that isn't that into the Godhead, Kirkbride stuff? A lot of it isn't even official right? He came up with it after leaving Bethesda.

[@christianrose9166]

@@samuelkristensen6685 Except a lot of that "unofficial" stuff tends to appear in the Elder Scrolls series, which corroborates Kirkbride's writings. As a result of Bethesda continuing to pull lore bits from his "unofficial" lore of Tamriel, it's become an unspoken/unofficial rule of the Elder Scrolls community that if Michael Kirkbride writes something about Tamrielic lore, it's canon.

[@zer0zer0nin9]

Everything gets weird when the godhead is considered.

[@odd-eyes6363]

Godhead is Kirkbride nonsense Dude only wrote Morrowind along with 4 other people but apparently his word is law in this fandom

[@rossnorris2351]

I'd really like to see a video on Lorkan and the spin the races put on him.

[@beanywalrus00]

I always viewed the three main aspects of time; Auriel, Akatosh, and Alduin, as being different points of time. Auriel is the past, Akatosh is the present, and Alduin is the future. edit: lol you said that too, do you browse tesg?

[@odd-eyes6363]

But that's not really how it seems to work. Skyrim made a really big push towards the direction that Alduin is a different entity and that Auriel and Akatosh are the same

[@slimretro2659]

@@odd-eyes6363 YES! That's why I rlly hate the AKA oversoul theory that mostly involves unofficial mk lore. Skyrim proved that it isn't true. We could make a case for it before skyrim but now it's just pulling shit from mk lore.

[@alemirdikson]

In my opinion? Akatosh is an amalgamation of Auri-El and Shor. I believe that, when the Marukhati Selectives "removed the Aldmeri taint from Akatosh", they did so by somehow shoving the two deities into each other, making them one. Akatosh is INSANE because he IS both Auri-El AND Shor. Two fundamentally opposed gods, becoming one and the same. What else could break the dragon so damn hard that it takes 1000 "years" to fix, when most dragon breaks take only a few hours, days, years at most? And to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced they were ever entirely separate to begin with. I believe they are two opposed halves of the same whole, in the same way that ultimately Men and Mer are one and the same. Both Ehlnofey. Both from the same place, destined for the same end. Anui-El and Sithis were both born at the same moment from the same interplay of the same two forces. Auri-El and Lorkhan were then born at the same time, as a result of the same interplay between Anui-El and Sithis. In various myths, particularly the Kirkbridian ones, the actions and attributes of each are largely interchangable, and at minimum mirrored to one another. I believe they are both the same entity. One which is fundamentally and diametrically opposed to itself. A left brain and a right brain. Auri-El and Shor-El are one and the same. One which wants desperately not to be. Perhaps even to the extent of causing a split. I believe THAT was the "Sundering of Aldmeris." The Convention. The murder of Lorkhan upon Ada Mantia. It was Auri-El, realizing what he had done. The pain it wrought, the horror he unleashed upon his fellow Et'Ada. And so he reached into his own chest, perhaps with or without help, and with "more than hands", ripped out that part of himself which he despised so. And then Marukh comes and stitches them back together like some sort of frankengod. If you were Akatosh, committing with your own hands, the greatest atrocity imaginable, ripping out the half of you that said 'this is a good idea', devoting your eternal nonexistence to making up for that mistake, and then having the rotting corpse of your former self shoved back into you by some monkey... Would you not go insane? Would you not flip out and desire an end to all things? To tear down this awful world of your making, to return to an age before? I sure would. I don't think that the copious number of aspects and interpretations necessarily matters. Plenty of gods have different interpretations and aspects without being ripped apart. That's just part of the nature of being a deity in The Elder Scrolls. So why then, is Akatosh so special? Because he's not just one god with many aspects. He's TWO gods, with many aspects each. Some of which have become separate gods in their own right. Both Auriel AND Shor, at the same time. Two halves of one, made separate, and then forcibly made whole once more. Sheogorath mirrors this. He is both Jyggalag AND Sheogorath. He too, had a convention in which his compatriots also ripped him apart, leaving him as a ghost of his former self, until one day some person comes in and stitches them back together. Furthermore, it is said the Sheo was born of the void left behind by the loss Lorkhan's divine spark, and Sheogorath's name shares similarities with names for Lorkhan. Shor and Sheor, in particular. And it was a Shezzarine, and an aspect of Pelinal Whitestrake, which ended up mantling him in the end, much like it was it was when Talos rose up and became a second coming of Shor. It's not a 1:1 comparison, but it's absolutely an echo, and I think that echo indeed holds some clues to be gleaned.

[@aeternumcadens1777]

Lorkhan has got to be the ultimate troll...like he created life as a trick/joke

[@michaelbishop5674]

Lorkhan: "We all do a little trolling"

[@shaggyroggers1084]

Like the old ones of the mythos

[@xx_donkeyfucker_xx7910]

@@michaelbishop5674 I tiny amount of Tom foolery

[@fauzanabdulkahfi957]

False lorkhan create the world because he wanted to usurp the dreamer

[@aeternumcadens1777]

@@fauzanabdulkahfi957 how would expanding the dream, usurp the dreamer? I'm assuming you are referring to the God head of course

[@Mr_King96]

Reading the title, i assume that we are finally talking about Todd Howard today

[@PoorMustang]

F

[@corv1d770]

I snorted ngl

[@kingjamization]

Last time I was this early the Dwarves were still on Nirn

[@luckyjedi429]

Drew, you are a storytelling BEAST. I find it fascinating that Alduin invades Sovngarde to devour souls *if* he is also Akatosh. Is he weakening Shor’s army? Can Akatosh come into Sovngarde?

[@Dovahkiin18]

In my opinion I think Akatosh rules over Sovengarde

[@insaincaldo]

An odd and perhaps wildly speculative thing that just hit me and only further build while watching. Shrines of Akatosh with the dragon embracing, climbing the hour glass while swallowing, or falling on a sword. Is a mirror of the Talos shrine statues, where man impales the serpent. It kinda feels like an unconscious understanding of people further dividing the dragon, via Talos the god coming into existence as a splitting from Shor, given to a mortal man. It also enforces Alduin fated to be slain because his role in fate had been corrupted, his form loosing divinity to be forced back into it's proper place. The dragon of the north named again. Was the killing of Alduin carving an aspect of corrupted Akatosh away, or was it returning it to it's path. Did we harm or heal.

[@wildmanjeff42]

Thank you for your time making the Lore videos. I always enjoy them.

[@charliewhite578]

We need to hire Super Mario to do voiceovers of these videos as parthonax.

[@Wargulpartal]

I understand that reference. 🤣🤣 You can say Mario shares same Thu'um, but use different shouts. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fronatomy6280]

Marionax and Alduigi

[@gotzn0name478]

@@fronatomy6280 😂😂😂 good shit, man.

[@Er1c661]

Last time I was this early Yokuda hadn’t sank yet

[@abattlecatfromakavir]

We mortals need to leave poor Aka alone... He's been through more than enough pain and suffering already.

[@Super50ldier]

Yeah

[@jupiterloverofrain8175]

last time I was this early the Snow Elves still populated Skyrim

[@localagoraphobe]

You should've said you were so early that the khajiit still populated skyrim. In one of the books, it says that the soon to be snow elves spotted khajiit on the shores of skyrim.

[@KyleJordanGaming]

Maybe the real Akatosh is all the friends we made along the way.

[@AdamSmith-jb2lf]

I always thought that the reason Akatosh was so fragmented was because he was an Aedra that put so much of his essence into the creation of Mundus, and therefore was subject to the differences of mortal perceptions. Every race worships something like Akatosh, slightly different, and so he the god IS all of those perceptions at once, even if contradictory. That ain't even all him, though. Every Aedra has half a dozen different names.

[@theenderdestruction2362]

And it makes him even more badass if you think about it, man really put his everything into mundus and can still kick daedric ass, this is why I headcannon him as the only real thing keeping the other daedra from going all out, just the mere thought of him somehow getting his mind together just to kick your ass is probably the most terrifying thing any of the daedric princes can think of

[@gbcem9882]

As if the other gods weren't crazy enough...

[@royalty843]

Sheo: cheese!!!

[@noonenowhere877]

I mean to be fair to Shegorath liking cheese is pretty sane. I mean it would be madder not like cheese really...unless your lactose intolerant.

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

@@noonenowhere877 As someone who is lactose intolerant, it would still be weird not to like cheese

[@phancci]

I am not certain who the writer is for this particular video, but they are an amazing writer and I am captivated. Thank you so much for this!

[@JumbojayMK]

They're the best elder scrolls channel

[@ludovicdisson3668]

"The grains of sand pass through the hourglass, and time begins again." I can't stop watching your video, I just love it !

[@s7Matt]

These intros are going longer and longer... Amazing!

[@crylisss]

hey guys, i cant express how much I love your chznnel. It may be niche sure, but there is 970,000 of us that love and appretiate the effot you all put into thse vidoes. Personally, i fall asleep to most of your videos. They are quite relaxing.

[@FudgeMuppet]

Thanks so much for the support! We really appreciate it :)

[@unknownbff1145]

Virgin mer - WE AEE SUPERIOR PLEASE LET US GOO vs CHAD MEN - Thank you Gods for letting us prove that we are worthy of eternal life

[@syn9669]

Whelp time to start a new playthrough called “alduins crusader” and shout “For Akatosh!” Everytime I swing a sword.

[@eyeofgnosis558]

I've always seen Auriel as the first iteration of 'Aka' and, because of that, can't help but revere and look into the past (like the Altmer that worship him). Whereas Akatosh emerged as a later aspect, looking to the future of a world left behind by Lorkhan's death. I suppose in this respect Akatosh is what was created when 'Aka' had to step into the absent role Lorkhan was meant to fill, and perhaps it holds some regret for what its 'Auriel aspect' did. Maybe this is why Akatosh 'gifted' the blood of Lorkhan (the Amulet of Kings) to Alessia, handing that responsibility over to mortals in the hope that one day a wielder of the Amulet would be able to mantle the absent throne of Lorkhan (i.e. what Tiber Septim achieved becoming Talos).

[@cherylbolla3340]

Absolutely intriguing as always.

[@denakarganta1502]

Also please do a podcast on Akatosh and his connections to Lorkhan because I have theory that both the Time God(s) and Lorkhan (Space) are not really opposed to each other and are only enacting the each Kalpa's events only letting the Kalpa being reset and that both will always make sure there is an avatar or representative of their influence to help keep the cycle going. For Akatosh/Auriel it could be seen through the Covenant with Alessia, the Avatar of Akatosh (Martin Septim), and even the Last Dragonborn as though he/she may be Shezzarine they also prevented Auriel's Bow from falling into Vampiric hands, Stopped Alduin and even defeated Miraak for his betrayal of Akatosh's purpose for him, ( to stop Alduin though the dragonblood may have corrupted him). With Lorkhan, his representatives could be seen through figures such as Talos (Hjalti,Ysmir,and Zurin Arctus), again the Dovahkiin, and even through figures such as Wulf who was seen in Morrowind. And what did all figures do, they kept the kalpic cycle ongoing despite the apocalyptic events occuring which we dealt with literally.

[@Super50ldier]

He, the Last Dragonborn is a Nordic male

[@lonelypancake5979]

You know.. It's stuff like this that makes me wonder just how powerful the Dragonborn would be if 1. They weren't mortal 2. Weren't limited by game mechanics. Not to mention their connection to akatosh.. Would he/she share some of his madness? What about time related powers? The psygic order was shown to have that to a degree but what about the son/daughter of the literal time god?

[@_JTC357]

I know that we’re all thinking this, but Sheogorath: aM i A jOkE tO yOu

[@95Bartlett]

Great video I always felt that this theory best explained the nature of Pelinal's madness, Pelinal being aware of the dual nature between Akaosh and Lorkhan and that he was an avatar of both. Maybe an et'ada can hold onto that contradiction but it would send a mortal on violent cat murdering rampages.

[@ThomFoolery12]

Obviously I was going to give a like, but the “or is he just a really big cat?” Made it definitive

[@KahavaveCAPIPI]

So, my interpretation is that the alessians made Aka mantle Lorkhan through Akatosh. He must be pissed about that. Ol Doomy is probably laughing his head off though.

[@Pidgeon182]

That is my interpretation as well. Makes no sense that Nedes and Nords would completely give up such an important figure to their pantheon to me. Would also make sense that Akatosh would be so at odds with himself, since Akatusk was Anuic and Lorkhan was Padhomaic.

[@kaysonoleen5261]

early enough to watch the Tribunal betray Lord Nerevar

[@Skypothesis]

Come to me through fire and war Oh Oh

[@voidghost4933]

@@Skypothesis come Nerevar Come and look upon the heart Upon the heart Oh Oh Oh

[@RecordedMercury]

"O, Aka for our shared madness I do this! I watch you watching me watching back! Umaril dares call us out, for that is how we made him!" - Pelinal Whitestrake

[@frenchlasagna8138]

The dark brotherhood in eso absolutley crushed skyrims.

[@Aethuviel]

Your videos on Elder Scrolls mythology helped me understand real-world mythology. I'm not even exaggerating - I have a newfound love for mythology, and the created mythology of Tamriel (inspired from real myth) helps make it make sense.

[@Celessar1988]

at 25:37 The statue of Auriel looks like it has dragon wings, via the steps flanking it

[@jackfenwick6182]

So early lorkhan still has a heart..

[@CHLOCHLOLP]

Elder scrolls has some of the deepest lore ive ever heard. I love that they have put so much detail and thought into the creation of the universe, and how its interpreted by the mortals in it. Never read/listened to anything like it. I enjoy learning about the histories of Nirn more than i enjoy playing the games lol.

[@slothwaffles4352]

last time I was this early, edp445 still had a supportive fanbase

[@andringoaskabar1968]

Lol

[@andringoaskabar1968]

Its a KZbin channel and a disgusting person

[@Skypothesis]

Oh RIP lol

[@terpy663]

Strangely enough, I think oppenheimer's most famous quote about Vishnu can be used to contextualize Akatosh as a god: "I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him, takes on his multiarmed form and says, ‘Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.’" I think it may be useful to view the fragmented sometimes conflicting aspects of Akatosh as the same god with a new persona as a tool. Sometimes these aspects are projected on to him.

[@omglolilovepokemon01]

I'd like to mention that the idea with auriel being the past, akatosh being the present and alduin being the future reminds me of Ra's daily cycle in ancient Egyptian religion, with khepri being the morning, Ra being the day, atum being the evening, it just reminded me of that and it's interesting as their both the leader of their respective pantheons

[@Searly255]

”Time. Time is an artificial construct. An arbitrary system based on the idea that events occur in a linear direction at all times.” Sheogorath

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

Alduin gets more confusing with Paarthurnax's statement, "zeymahi lost ont du'ul bormahu", which translates to meaning that his brother Alduin was once Akatosh, suggesting that he somehow split off from the main section of Akatosh or whatever you want to call the big oversoul, at a later point than other variants, and that he was at one point synonymous with Akatosh, but became what he currently is.

[@JumbojayMK]

Alduin is to Akatosh like Jesus to God I think

[@JumbojayMK]

They say alduin is the firstborn so he's not exactly Akatoshs spirit tho

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

@@JumbojayMK It might be something like that.

[@damienbotts7981]

We are theorizing about fictional gods of a video game but man that god for past present and future was full on chefs kiss good.

[@CathaxisDragonheart]

Thank you once again for an awesome way to end the day. You guys rock!!!

[@williamflitton8311]

Exam prep- fudgemuppet lore videos completely unrelated to what I’m learning. The best kind of exam prep.

[@Skypothesis]

Honestly exactly what I do hahaha

[@StrangeTamer178]

I'm thinking since he's a man and a dragon, Auriel/Akatosh are the man and Alduin is the dragon. Auriel/Akatosh being the flow of time and alduin being the end of it. The dragonborn gift is a gift from akatosh. So that means akatosh creates dovahkiin to destroy alduin which is himself. But then that destroys only thing that ends time

[@jefthereaper]

I also wonder, The lore keeps speaking about how "the spirits found their place" or "their purpose" "their shape". This likely means that most spirits desire "identity". Would this mean that Daedric Princess don't necessarily meddle with Mortals for the fun of it, but more due to that they NEED to do so, in order to maintain their sense of self? Their Sphere of influence must be maintained in order to keep their identity, else risking to lose their sense of self, and become a nobody, a spirit without name, place or purpose. Somebody share their thoughts on this theory.

[@leobaron9417]

That would seem fitting, although impossible to demonstrate. But that would mean that, being a part of the Aurbis wheel, they interact with mortals not only to please themselves, but also indirectly to maintain Aurbis... Which is a bit contradictory since they refused to do so in the first place. It would be strange for them to be linked to a world they didn't need to survive in the first place.

[@nakenmil]

I was really disappointed when Skyrim went with a neutered, more milquetoast idea that Alduin was just Akatosh's "son". It just feels like Bethesda was trying to homogenize Tamrielic religions to follow the Imperial one, and they had to "explain away" facets that didn't fit in. The idea that the Nords simply see the Time God as an entity of destruction rather of preservation, like the Imperials, is so much more interesting, especially when taken into parralel with their reverence for the Missing God, typically his foil.

[@Praefecture]

I personally think the dragons in Skyrim are just "translating" the name of the Time God (Aka oversoul) to "Akatosh". Parthunaax calls it "Bormahu". I honestly don't think they mean the Imperial Akatosh. In Skyrim, all dragons, including Alduin, are treated as time-shards of this shattered God (hence "sons" to their "father"). "Alduin is real, and he ent Akatosh!" I agree on them neutering the Nordic pantheon as a whole tho. But they do have hints of it (Dragonborn being called "Ysmir" by the greybeards or that wall with Orkey in the Blades hideout), including hints to the Missing God (Shor's throne being empty in Sovngarde).

[@zixx844]

Alduin has far bigger problems then that. He has zero personality, zero motivation and fails to be an interesting villain on all fronts. Villains in past Elder Scrolls games had interesting ideas, philosophies and motivations for what they were doing. What they should have done is depicted Alduin as a tired and frustrated villain. Broken and driven mad from the affairs of mortals screwing with the timeline and inventing countless interpretations of the time god. So now he wants to rule the mortal world, to prevent anymore dragon breaks and to try and piece himself back together into a singular entity.

[@mjrtaurus2714]

My theory is that Anu cannot understand the concept of total change, thus the Kalpa begins anew before it breaks them into the anuic deities. Alduin appeared eras earlier in the time-line and was meant to destroy the current Kalpa. He did not, and strained the existence of Anu. Miraak's refusal to deal with him, and the later casting out of Alduin caused even more strain. Under this, Anu fragmented beyond what they willed themself to. Rebellions and revolutions, wars and uprisings, kingdoms and empires, dragon breaks all along the way... Anu is no longer whole because of all this change, but a mosaic of contradicting entities that prolonged existence has made of them. Perhaps the last dragonborn slaying Alduin has set the Kalpa back on the proper track, so that when the world-eater is reborn into the world, he will do as he was meant to in the beginning.

[@DonnieY23]

Glad you mentioned the relation between Atakota and Akatosh, even if briefly. I was wondering about it just a few days ago and couldn’t find anything myself

[@firewolf6431]

I love how you start these kind of videos with a History of Skyrim

[@lxs48]

oh fudge, your microphone eq has improved so much from when I first watched you. This is great

[@waluigi3515]

The gods and daedric princes of Tamriel appear differently in every single culture of the lands. Are they merely interpretations? d Do the gods play different roles in the universe depending on who sees them? Or, do all different iterations of the gods exist simultaneously?

[@differentbutsimilar7893]

Mmmm... that is the question. The general rule is that gods and daedra require worship and tribute. They get weaker without it. Which really makes you wonder how far that runs... if it goes down to people's conceptions of the gods or not. I can't get specific, but I suspect that this is actually how it works... that reality itself shifts along with the collective unconscious of the ES universe. The gods are nascent... perhaps even existing in something resembling a quantum state. Perhaps their influence could be thought of in the same way as superposition - something a bit like quantum entanglement. If you accept the Kirkbride stuff at all, it almost becomes intuitive to think of it this way. I think that's why a lot of people take him seriously. As out there as it all is, it ends up being what you need to make certain things written long after, actually make sense. Sometimes that's how it goes when someone passes on an idea and other people have to try to parse it enough to build on it. The later writers themselves might miss the full picture, but the origins are there for you to see yourself and maybe find something that makes it work for you. That said, it's not a new concept. The Judeo-Christian god exists in many forms at once. And to my mind they are mutually exclusive entities. At least on the face, they seem discreet and able to operate in a sort of independent manner. They even interact with each other as such. See: Jesus and The Father. And yet the are both still "God." You could say a god in ES is the same being projected through a different pinhole each time. Same source, channeled differently. Every mind is a pinhole through which the gods appear in and interact with Mundus. You could think of it as a dream-within-a-dream scenario. God dreams of beings who dream of more gods. Makes ya wonder who's really got the power between the Aedra and their worshipers, eh?

[@waluigi3515]

@@differentbutsimilar7893 this is the best reply I could have asked for, thank you VERY much! I like the idea that gods are "channelled" differently for every worshipper, that every iteration exists... but doesn't at the same time. It's amazing! I also like the reference to real religions, because you can really start to make the connections and understand that way.

[@waluigi3515]

@@differentbutsimilar7893 overall, great job dude!!

[@chriskaplan6109]

@@differentbutsimilar7893 absolutely brilliant comment, saving this

[@bellarosethorne]

with all this a question grows - does not the daedric prince sheogorath embody much of the same spheres? could sheogorath not be an aspect or even the archetype of the time god? Ultimately, to me, it feels like once you start picking at the threads between the aedra and daedra, you realise they all collapse into each other, so in actuality it's probable that There is only the godhead, and all in the elder scrolls universe are just the godhead experiencing it's own mind, witnessing it's own insanity. Mantling, the unification of fragments; chim, the awakening of fragments to a lucid state; amaranth, the mantling of a fragment to the whole.

[@s7Matt]

If Alduin is an offspring, or the first born of Akatosh, and the Dragonborn Prophecy points all the situation going on on Skyrim, could the fall of Alduin be the prophecy being fulfilled? Like, when he dies, the Dragonborn doesn't absorb his soul, but it goes... Somewhere. Could it be returning to Akatosh - The Beginning of everything?

[@bleachmon1]

Or it could be that Akatosh and Lorkhan were in it together playing the long con. You mentioned that the nords depict Alduin as the destroyer of the world, but in another video you point out that they happilly served him when the dragon cult ruled atmora and Skyrim, until corruption set it. Not only that but you talk about Auriel's punishment of Lorkhan. He took out his heart and fired it into the sea, creating the red mountain, aka the read tower that stabalized the mortal realm and helped keep it intact. An odd act for a god who wants to free his followers from their mortal existance. BAsically what Auriel/Akatosh says and What he does are two very different things.

[@ThePrinceofPlots]

Man the music the drop everything another perfect vid

[@FC3zombiehunter]

So early the Chimer are still around

[@logandean5166]

“O, Aka, for our shared madness I do this.”

[@MrEHD-fj1bz]

fact: light speed is a universal constant, time perception is relative

[@lambree4947]

Relative to what?

[@jrayb0240]

I wanna know what that Aedric Realm looking thing with the giant hour glasses is so i can download it

[@adragonstale5960]

I think it is from eso. Not that I am sure though

[@stonepiper1035]

With you there, looks incredible and I want to explore it.

[@stevesilvasi5843]

Akatosh is just a successful Jyggalag that made compromises to have a feeling of "full" control. Yeah he doesn't directly control order but he found the next best thing... The thing that order needs to make sense.

[@litewave5186]

LMAO this makes a lot of sense

[@TheAmericanLoudmouth]

A video about Talos is long overdue.

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

So beautiful and eerie the opening.

[@billfletcher3966]

Alduin is part of Akatosh. Shor, who is the Nordic name for Lorkahan. The last dragonborn is most likely a physical embodiment of Shor. So the last dragonborn vs Alduin is Akatosh vs Lorkahan round 2.

[@philthethotdestroyer4194]

ive been watching since like 2016 and these videos remind me of highschool

[@muslimcrusader5987]

Here’s a crazy thought I had. You know how the Elder Scrolls takes place within the dream of the Godhead? Well where is the Godhead? Whenever you dream, you’re always the centre of your world. Everything revolves around you. You are the creator of it after all. No one has a dream and doesn’t experience themselves inside of it. So who is the Godhead? It has to be someone who was present in every major event in the Elder Scrolls universe. Maybe, just maybe, the protagonists of each game is the Godhead? That would explain how you’re able to pause reality, reload it, and even select who you want to portray yourself as. Or maybe the Godhead is another individual. A traveller who observes all the events occurring in his mind from the side. That would be an insane theory!

[@redshirt49]

Wasn't there a theory that said all the divines are more or less formless and only given form and purpose by those that worship them? So someone who worships the time god as Auri-El manifests him as such, with motives according to their imaginings. Likewise, those who worship him as Akatosh manifest him as the champion of humanity they perceive him to be. In essence, the gods represent a rough idea, but that idea isn't given shape by the god itself but rather by those who worship them. This applies to more than just Akatosh of course.

[@okami6399]

I just love the ragdolling at 10:39, we have really interesting lore in the background while that poor archer becomes jello.

[@ryanlikestoontown]

Drew’s voice used to be my least favorite to narrate videos but nowadays to quote Xzar from Baldur’s gate”your voice is ambrosia” but for real dude you’ve gotten good at this, love when you narrate the vids 👍

[@stankmcdankton6204]

If the time god is insane, does that put him under the influence of the God of Madness? Frankly I'm seeing a lot of parallels between Akatosh (+) and Sheogorath/Jiggalag. Order to chaos, endless recycling, consistent inconsistency, etc.

[@Praefecture]

The Imperial Divine Akatosh, the "two-headed king", is "mad" as he is Auri-el who had been infused with Human aspects of Lorkhan. Just as Aka and Lorkhan are opposite beings of the same entity, so too are Anuiel and Sithis, and Anu and Padomay. Order and Chaos. Sheogorath is the most Padomaic of the Daedra, and Jyggalag the most Anuic.

[@leobaron9417]

If that was the case, I think Vaermina would have dominated the whole creation via the dream of Anu

[@wesleybrown9018]

Perhaps all these contradictions are easily explained by dragon breaks. If you wound time, you wound the god of time. All these variations may be the same but different because of these breaks. Like how there can be multiple versions of the same event such as the battle of red mountain

[@JHS270694]

18:55 Tosh has a pretty funny meaning in English slang. xD Edit: I think Sheo would be good friends with Akatosh considering the Time God's situation.