The Complete Guide to Immortality in the Elder Scrolls Lore

In our latest Elder Scrolls video we explore the many paths to immortality in the elder scrolls universe.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series and was released worldwide on November 11, 2011. The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim.
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[@ideaaddict923]

There is of course the powerful mortals of tamriel that ascend to become.... essential NPCs

[@timetraveler0002]

dammit the secret is out

[@Zehruk]

But not all essential npcs are created equal. Some are only immortal during a fixed point in time. Always existing then, but no guarantee as to existing after or even before. Truly time in the elder scrolls is a mysterious thing.

[@jgon12]

Or children

[@surrk1057]

They are not powerful, they just talk with/about the Dragonborn.

[@mitchellsedmak]

I want to summon a demon and make a deal to become an essential npc. *gets hit by a semi truck* *is covered in blood but stands up and walks around awkwardly*

[@Priceluked]

in the words of Savos Aren "What you learn here will last a lifetime, several, if you are talented."

[@HimanXK]

Or few, if you're Savos

[@SarthakDhyani--th-A]

@@HimanXK a few is still more than one my friend

[@NiceuRiceu]

Considering how Mer can live up to 300 years without dabbling in arcane arts and that Savos is said to be 100 years old, he is pretty young. No wonder why Neloth considers him to be below his apprenticeship

[@wolves600]

@@NiceuRiceu he is older than 100 his apprenticeship was at least 100 years ago as the place he got his apprenticeship from disappeared 100 years ago so depending when he got it and how old he was

[@NiceuRiceu]

@@wolves600 so at most he is just below 200 years old which is still pretty young for a Mer Mage

[@rytyr382]

I love that CHIM is realizing you're playing a video game and deciding to either quit it and go outside or mod the hell out of it and become whatever you want.

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

its actually like a 5 gram mushroom trip making me ask myself if i want to manifest my future or if its a sin to even have the gall to ask for existence

[@AzureTheAvian]

@@SobeCrunkMonster Have you achieved chim yet?

[@ChadYu]

@@SobeCrunkMonster i like shiitake mushrooms

[@ChadYu]

@@SobeCrunkMonster do you like shiitake mushrooms

[@TheLegendaryMemeKing]

@@ChadYu I love Shiitake mushrooms!

[@lell717]

I like how most "immortals" in fantasy universes usually dont make it past a couple thousand years because some adventurer comes around and kills them for loot.

[@necromancer6405]

So annoying.

[@nombre4138]

Well it is like a 50/50 thing i guess

[@GirlCops]

Lmao and their backstory is always absolutely insane and deep, all those years just to die to some random adventurer 😂

[@Clippidyclappidy]

I mean immortal doesn’t mean unkillable. Even gods can be killed.

[@GirlCops]

@@Clippidyclappidy you've got to imagine after all those years death would be a release from eternal suffering. Being cursed with knowledge/experience is a real thing people who live to be 100+ talk about. Imagine thousands of years

[@sanemaniac7416]

Fudgemuppet: "Learn how to become immortal!" Me: "Have you heard the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"

[@zawwin1846]

No, tell me

[@sanemaniac7416]

I thought not @@zawwin1846. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you, it's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise, he could influence the midichlorians to create... life. He had such a knowlage of the Dark Side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. The only thing he was afraid of was loosing his power, which, eventually of course he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself...

[@ThatOneGuy-iv9sn]

69th like

[@vellinghem2187]

@Marmer Not from a Jedi.....

[@ztharris69]

A knee must be sacrificed to an arrow. Some would consider this...unnatural

[@Lordradost]

Gorgeous Sheogorathian quote there: "Let me be clear. Inhabitants of the shivering Isles are affected by time, but we are not *subject* to it. We are *subjects* of Lord Sheogorath, who *subjects* us to whatever *subject* he is in the mood to *subjugate* . Because time is *subjective* ."

[@TheRealVorynDagoth]

Time can also be Cheese. Think about it 🤔 🌌 🧠

[@necromancer6405]

@@TheRealVorynDagoth Must be swiss.

[@mushroomsrcool1449]

@@necromancer6405that was very cheesy of you.

[@CyberController-]

Azura: Nooooo! You can't break your oath to never use the Heart Of Lorkhan! Tribunal: Hehehehe, tools go slam!

[@sarpius4710]

Tribunal: Nooooo! You can't bring back Nerevar to kill us ! Azura: Hehehehe, dark elf jesus go duum!

[@pastlife960]

Azura: Are you taking the tools to Red Mountain to destroy them? The Tribunal: Yeeeeeees Actually uses the tools on the heart like a boss. Immortality time

[@crypt1k755]

Tribunal: “Yes, now we have become living gods thanks to the heart of Lorkhan!” Azura: “Hehe you grey now”

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣💀💀💀

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

Doğan Yavuz Sarp EMÜLTAY 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@drnumbnuts656]

Mai’q knows the secrets of immortality, but Mai’q does not tell.

[@Arkimedus]

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[@wiibrockster]

Would anybody else love to have the option to become a Lich in TES 6? Imagine having a questline involving gathering the nessacary items and creating a phylateracy.

[@lorgren4002]

YES, there are very few games where you can become lich - with ritual and everything edit: there is no such game

[@Galimeer5]

There's a Skyrim mod that lets you do that, "Undeath"

[@lorgren4002]

Yes...mod I’d like to see lich in base game no need to install mod Btw undeath is my favorite mod

[@gachilhan]

@@lorgren4002 Honestly games where you can become a vampire/werewolf/lich/demon but are not required to progress in the story etc are the best rpgs.

[@bibo3282]

Then I can become Momonga from Overlord!

[@COctagons]

There is another way: Should you be physically, mentally, ideologically and magically suited to doing so, and be somehow privy to the secrets of the transformation, you could perhaps become an *Ideal Master.* Whether you would ever be allowed to learn their necromantic secrets, or would have to figure them out yourself would be up to the capricious crystals, but should you attain their knowledge, and be able to put it to use, then you too could become immortal.

[@JXEditor]

I read that as Drew. You did a good job capturing the “voice” of FudgeMuppet in that comment.

[@Sleeepy23]

@@JXEditor yeah he did

[@Zeemis]

The ideal masters are ancient necromancers that transisted a corporeal form and became the rulers of a plane of oblivion, the Soul Cairn. I doubt they would share their secrets, nor their power, for, they only want souls. They may claim that they're willing to help you become an ideal master; however, are probably either lying, or bending the truth as a sort of trick.

[@jtcm3416]

I've always wanted to be a JO crystal

[@samuelwithers2221]

I think it's fairly simple how the Ideal Masters operate; they feed off of the souls trapped in the Soul Cairn, similar to vampires and other daedric creatures. They're sustained by the souls trapped in the realm of their own creation, slowly feasting on them to keep their relatively simple bodies alive, making them functionally immortal.

[@mysigt_]

This type of lore is my guilty pleasure.

[@roblack1273]

capsar you could get a 4 hour movie that’ll be your end game you great avenger

[@totallynotarobot5476]

If there's one thing that the elder scrolls universe has always done really well in my opinion is the lore surrounding it's own cosmology and astronomy. Most other fantasy universes usually keep at least some of our own universe's laws regarding how outer space, stars and planets work. The inky blackness between celestial bodies is often still a vacuum of empty space and stars are often still balls of plasma. However when you start to learn about anything you see in the sky in an elder scrolls game, every single scrap and remnant of real world knowledge pretty much gets thrown away and replaced it with myth and magic.

[@scarletbard6511]

It's one of the big reasons why the Elder Scrolls series is my favorite.

[@vonfaustien3957]

Spell jammer aka dnd IN SPACE!!! Is just as trippy

[@collinb.8542]

To be fair I think alot of it is supposed to be allegorical.

[@codyrockarano5220]

@@collinb.8542 no. Nor are our very own myths. They have truth in them.

[@amatanata]

That’s why it’s so hard and cool to try and figure out what is fact and fiction in the over 300 pieces of literature in just Skyrim alone

[@user-su6wy3bj4v]

I would just like to point out that elves can naturally live 600+ years, as written in some books in the games written by Barenziah herself. It's also to be noted that the 200-300 years mentioned by some of the devs was meant as in elves often die by that time from disease or wars, not of old age. So technically 200 years is young for a dark elf

[@MavenFade]

Yeah i thought it was common knowledge that the High Elves for example can live to 1,000 naturally, and most the other elves can still be 600 or more years old quite regularly.. seems a rare miss by FudgeMuppet on that one

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

im sure literally everyone already knows that

[@hazeltree7738]

@@SobeCrunkMonster I did not know that, only that they live a long time. Don't just assume that "Well everyone knows that" because people _don't_

[@mindtrait0r879]

Untrue. It varies greatly. For instance, there's a Dunmer in Skyrim working for Neloth who is just shy of 200 years old but is very old and past her working age.

[@Mere-Lachaiselongue]

@@mindtrait0r879 Developer oversight... There's a lot of them in Skyrim like how Septimus 0 sums when he sees the book instead of the heart of Lorhkan as he turns into ash instead of just disappearing.

[@pastlife960]

So, to achieve Chim is essentially the realisation that you are a character in a video game created by Todd Howard. Huh. The apotheosis of Todd. Trippy.

[@Alpha1200]

You become one with the Toddhead.

[@rhett6946]

@@Alpha1200 I’m dying lmao

[@Tengu125]

@@Alpha1200 Perfection...

[@HereticalKitsune]

In the SCP-multiverse there is an SCP 001 which deals with that realization. At the end it attacks the reader in an attempt of the written characters trying to kill the reader. I wonder if those who achieved CHIM are also tempted to kill the watchers above, us.

[@roggonval]

@@HereticalKitsune whats his name?

[@n.a.nameless5435]

Knight-Paladin Gelebor is a mystery. and spells and effects don't have any effect on him. May as well be a rock, even chickens show up under spell effects, but not him.

[@hhjk377]

Liches get stitches.

[@eldrileka1652]

You mean shivs?

[@Alleycat-b]

For @&*$% sake

[@solinvictus1214]

Okay now that I'm early I have a chance to say this, I flipping love your videos, and every one of them makes TES 1000× better, thanks for doing this!

[@FudgeMuppet]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy them!

[@gelonvia8525]

Big Agree

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

the lore in these videos are ten times better than shoddycasts old videos

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

HiiPER MaaDMaan Are they though? I feel like they’re all good

[@TrueTributes13]

Some of, if not the best elder scrolls content on all of youtube🙌!

[@Jimmyinvictus]

I thought the title said "Immorality" and I thought it was going to be a video about Sanguine and Dibella...maybe next time...sigh.

[@connorross4571]

Lmao!

[@RXTRUX1]

Love a dlc with Sanguin and Dibella throw a party with Sheagorath supplying cheese.

[@slavthesage5661]

@@RXTRUX1 NO. Not cheese. Fish fingers and custard.

[@ultimatepunster5850]

@@slavthesage5661 Fishy sticks for everyone

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

What?!🤔😅😶 how are they immoral?

[@paxtonhayes7822]

ayoo on behalf of the ninjas, i gotta say y’all have kept the elder scrolls alive for so long. you are a pillar of this community and there’s a reason why you have such a strong subscriber base. when the ES6 comes out, remember us when you blow up again 😉

[@bibo3282]

^ What he said 🙏

[@dELTA13579111315]

@@bibo3282 that's what she said

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

dELTA13579111315 No u

[@varietywiarrior]

Literally who?

[@scientic]

Ahh, the story of Ani and Padme and how their story birthed a Sith.

[@vogonp4287]

I don't like sand. It's course and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

[@jamesmartel8381]

@@vogonp4287 what about sand people?

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

James Martel I HATE THEM!!!!!

[@jellaux]

@@jamesmartel8381 I'd kill them. Not just the men but the women and the children too

[@dracofirex]

Achieving CHIM is really just learning that you're in the Matrix and like Neo, you can manipulate the world around you because you can see the code and change it to your needs.

[@wiibrockster]

Imagine looking like a rotting corpse and hanging out in ruins This post was made by Vampire gang

[@somevictor5110]

Imagine looking like an emo who doesn't have mastery of magic - This post was made by the Lich gang

[@wiibrockster]

@@somevictor5110 Well played 👏

[@bray2964]

Imagine getting dragged to coldharbour instead of being reshaped around your phylactery upon being killed ~this post was made by the lich gang

[@arcturus8329]

Imagine being weakened by the sun. This post was made by lich gang.

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

😂🤣

[@evilmatt6465]

Jyggalag: ah yes a new era. Time to bring order *commits genocide*

[@user-ib8je8kz6c]

y€#

[@cyp5961]

The only thing immortal is Skyrim with all the re-releases

[@t.t6294]

Please stop it with memes. it hurts hearing it over and over and over

[@stepfatherphil]

T.T thank you. I wonder how many times the dude read the same joke before thinking “wow I’ll pretend to be creative and make it too!”

[@windebiesteultima3317]

You guys must be a delight at parties...

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

Windebieste 888 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Are you with the Thalmor?

[@vexriki4265]

Gave you your 70th like because 69 likes is to good for this comment.

[@hyperbros96]

"weather or not Jyggalag is defeated, grey march ends with a mortal mantling Sheogorath" Actually in a ESO loremasters interview Haskil implies that when a hero attempts to mantle Sheogorath and fails to stop the grey march (which was every single case until champion of cyrodiil), that he becomes Haskil, or more accurately Haskil is the vestige of he who tried to mantle Sheogorath. When grey march ended Jyggalag simply became Sheogorath once more, they shared body/animus until shivering isles expansion.

[@vexile1239]

I remember hearing about that

[@johnmccall4528]

The biggest question which Vivec constantly sought the answer to during his entire time as a demigod was whether he would float with his legs crossed or stand up straight. Legend says he never found the answer.

[@Arkimedus]

all of the above = none of the above

[@DPHGSSBWXYORAS]

The last time I was this early, the dunmer were still chimer..... Thank you for this video

[@stefanm.734]

24:07 "Vivec seduced the Prince of Domination and married him." - Drew the Daedrologist, 2020

[@justme0910]

Vivec's solution to any problem: "Nature gave me an extra hole and I am going to use it." What an icon.

[@robertcurry389]

I love how canonically my character from Oblivion is technically Sheogorath.

[@michaeldiekow3912]

Technically, your character is canonically Sheogorath

[@therockingvolbeat3630]

@@michaeldiekow3912 His character, canonically is Sheogorath. Technically…

[@TheIvangallo]

@@therockingvolbeat3630 technically speaking, his character being Sheogorath is canon.

[@Super50ldier]

@@TheIvangallo The Hero of Kvatch is actually canonically Sheogorath, he defeated Jyggalag in the Grey March then mantled Sheogorath.

[@tristan364]

@@Super50ldier so technically, my character too, the hero of kvatch, is also canonically Sheogorath, so to speak.

[@autsni]

Woke up a couple of minutes ago from a dream that was representing my fear of being left behind and not cared for. Another great video!

[@machariamuragori9587]

..you ok?

[@Daquavious_Bingleton-III]

hold up. you good bro?

[@zmc1378]

You good my guy

[@mlgredpanda7654]

I had a dream where someone was forcing me to eat spaghettios but for some reason I didn’t want to

[@Sleeepy23]

My brother has Asperger syndrome and we always used to be close but he's been acting really bad lately and it's driving us apart. I had a dream not long ago where me and him were playfully crawling through some small crevices in a cave system. We climbed up a high rock wall and I got to the top first. When I turned around to help him over the top, he slipped and fell a great fall. It made a crunching sound. He looked up at me with a pained face and squirmed around trying to get up. Then he died while I was screaming for him. Then I woke up. I've been trying to work with him and help him lately but we just had a huge argument that almost came to blows... I'm scared for him.

[@TheRealPDizzle]

Master Drew, as another seeker of ultimate knowledge within Tamriel, your videos are not only like high-level lectures, but inspirational clues that motivate me and excite me to keep turning over every stone and turn through every dusty tome I can during my various pursuits in Tamriel. Never stop grasping at the next rung.

[@cosmogoblin]

I take things a little more literally and fourth-wall-breaking. Zero-sum and CHIM both involve realising that you're a video game character. The Dreamer is the developer and player (anybody who gets to decide what is canon - which is, according to MK, all of us), and if the Dreamer wakes (stops playing), s/he can choose to make a mod or create their own game. Destroying the Ehlnofey means deleting the game. This forces real people to wake up - but the Thalmor don't realise this doesn't include them.

[@ZekeWaters_]

I REALLY want to play through as a vampire with sacrosanct, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Great video as always!

[@Jimmyinvictus]

Sacrosanct is absolutely fantastic for a vampire playthrough; Id definitely recommend it!

[@olivander6990]

Jimmyinvictus in my defence I haven’t finished the video but what is this sacrosanct you speak of?

[@user-cl9ww9it8v]

@@olivander6990 it's a vampire mod if you didn't know

[@TheCrypto34]

Sacrosanct and Better Vampires go REALLY well together with the patch for them

[@frogman72davitto94]

I'm doing that very thing. I'm an imperial legionare vampire. And it's fun

[@maximilienrobespierre7927]

Fudge: "But to delve into his or their story would add another 10 minutes to this video" Me: "and that's a bad thing why?"

[@cjhott7237]

Here’s my question: What if one of us, a player, ended up in Tamriel? Would we instantly achieve Chim or would we have to figure out how to reawaken to the reality that we are in the game?

[@cr-hr3bv]

We might remember snippets of reality, unable to make sense of what was in our heads, as our mind tries to snap us into the reality of the game world like a puzzle piece. To the natives of Tamriel, we'd seem pants-on-head crazy, mumbling about "tgm" and putting baskets on people's heads, sniggering uncontrollably while munching on a giant's toe. If we aren't able to arrive at the truth in time, we'd probably end up in the ratway and eaten by the chef.

[@Regina316]

Hehe, a good question. But I think achieving Chim is actually very easy for us. All we have to do is make a self-insert! And, of course, lore the character as just being us, with memories intact.

[@psycholoji]

@@cr-hr3bvlollll bro you made my day

[@teathesilkwing7616]

Yeah, we just need to find the ~ key.

[@shrimpcanary9618]

Fudgemuppet : I have forgotten more about the elderscolls than you will ever know. hermaeus mora sends someone so he can claim the infomation. Fudgemuppet: today we are going to learn about the exchange rate of each province in each era.

[@dmullins301TWM]

Drew, it is amazing how you guys at Fudgemuppet can condense the vast swathes of moonsugar-like-lore into an intoxicating and addictive skooma-like video. Good on you, fellas! Please keep 'em coming.

[@Rodiacreed]

Just ask Divayth Fyr, he has immortality, unrivaled magical power among elves/humans and even has a harem.

[@thebystander1636]

Harem, lol. His wife daughter clones.

[@gavinerickson9392]

Is it a harem, or is it a 1000 year old man masturbating?

[@randomguy4167]

Rodiacreed Divayth Fyr is such a Chad tbh

[@mystic1029]

Gavin Erickson both; while he has a harem attending to his sexual desires, he’s still technically masturbating with extra steps.

[@Tengu125]

@@gavinerickson9392 Yes.

[@Max-im3ik]

you guys need to drop your mod list, your game looks so nice

[@bobbyyogah1850]

They wont

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

Bobby Yogah Why not?

[@bobbyyogah1850]

The Lean BusinessMan it’s to sexy for us

[@HartyBiker]

It always does my head in when I remember that even within the elder scrolls universe, the actual elder scrolls universe doesn't exist.

[@rogehmarbi]

I feel like I'm going to zero-sum after reading that comme-

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

It's the same concept of H.P. Lovecraft and his blind idiot god, Azathoth, whose dreams birth all of existence. It's a relatively common storytelling trope.

[@ericmurray5441]

It exist just pulled from culture around the world of myths and real world lore. Nothing is ever as original as we like to think…..

[@Arkimedus]

its as real as the rest of us

[@lilmeat2382]

I still remember the oblivion play through now those make me feel immortal

[@gavinerickson9392]

A rat on very hard will remedy that.

[@user-cl9ww9it8v]

@@gavinerickson9392 oblivion is fucked up levelling wise lol

[@marcokonnecke877]

Finally, this will make my playthroughs so much easier...

[@HasturTheOzonBoozer]

The Wheel has eight Spokes, one for each Divine. The Secret Tower, the I, represents Talos: the self-made god.

[@paleflame]

*The elves be literally searching for the infinity stones.*

[@John_1-1_in_Japanese]

As with many things, I always find the assertion that CHIM means the world is a dream taken too literally. It's complicated metaphysics simplified into something that's easy to understand & explain; not a bad thing really, so long as it's also understood that it's metaphor.

[@vexingdata2956]

I think I uncovered immortality through magical means in elder scrolls. Alot say that the school of restoration is the key but I believe it isn't. Restoration goes one way. Magic replicating cellular structures which grant healing. Or furthering healing that time would do in a very short time. I believe Alteration is to key. Alteration is a means of convince reality that it would be easier to serve your needs. Which is why flesh can become hard as stone, etc. Alteration school use for immortality is basically convincing reality that you are not bound to the decay of time. Or that your decay is significantly reduced.

[@CD-vg4hl]

26:24 This part made me realized right here that i would never be able to achieve CHIM and probably would zero-sum. I can't lucid dream even if my life depended on it. There have been times when i was asleep and dreaming, that i realize that i am asleep and dreaming and that none of it is real, and then i automatically just wake up. Im too "pragmatic" as you would say, for me the idea of lucid dreaming sounds fun, but at the same time i realize the uselessness of it all since i know none of it is real, and none of it matters.

[@erinmayo5170]

I agree. I'm pretty nihilistic so if i lived in TES universe i would have certainly zero-summed.

[@Ba5edAF]

You like movies? You like rpg games? Then you'll love lucid dreams... You're basically the director of protagonist of your story... And the question "what's the point?" isn't really valid. For what's the point of playing Skyrim... The answer is pretty similar

[@ianharrison5758]

I can only lucid dream when I’m heavily intoxicated

[@JohnBrown-tw2qi]

The irrelevance of what happens in the dream is sort of the appeal. It’s like how in GTA you can have as much fun running over npcs as you want because you know that none of it is real.

[@eliasfm675_2]

Fudgemuppet: "vampirism is a desease created by Molag Bal" Kars: "am I a joke to you?"

[@garrett9451]

Is that a jojo reference?!

[@justasleepparalysisdemonwi8719]

eliasfm675 _ OH MY GOD!

[@Kaiserker]

Great video! One critique, however: in Morrowind, the book Ancestors and the Dunmer states this: “The Telvanni are adept masters of necromancy. They do not, however, practice necromancy upon the remains of Dark Elves. Sane Telvanni regard such practices with loathing and righteous anger. They do practice necromancy upon the remains of animals and upon the remains of Humans, Orcs, and Argonians -- who are technically no more than animals in Morrowind.” While they don’t typically practice necromancy on Dunmer, they are known for practicing it on other races. While I don’t think Telvanni longevity is necessarily necromantic in nature, to me it certainly seems a possibility.

[@Nature-hr9vk]

You forgot that the Red Diamond, The Amulet of Kings, was broken during the Oblivion Crisis. Only two towers still retain their stones: Adamantia and The Throat of the World.

[@markogdon5746]

Oh darn I thought this was a complete guide on how to become an immortal. Now my dream of seeing the end of all things Begin Again is crushed

[@michaelcanham7214]

Sooo.. KIM, is realising that "There is no spoon."?

[@henrymarckisotto9025]

Dibs on "Reality of Mortality" as a band name

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

What about “Reality’s Mortality”? either way, that is a pretty sick name for a band, especially if the band primarily makes music that’s insightful about life, death, and finding one’s purpose. Would be a great “theme” for a band, I’d think lol

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

I think the most fun thing would be to achieve CHIM and use that power to grant the Thalmor the release from Mundus they long for.. and an eternity in the Soul Cairn!

[@machariamuragori9587]

you didn't have to roast the hagravens that hard.. beauty is in the eye of the beholder..

[@gavinerickson9392]

Well, then it's a good thing some of them like to feast on eyes.

[@UncleJunkyard]

Well, I'm as body positive as I can be, but that beholder is fucking blind

[@luckyjedi429]

I’ve been catching up on your lore videos and builds, and I gotta say this is top quality content, guys. Keep it up.

[@HareDeLune]

Fantastic work, Drew! Bravo, and thank you!

[@jbabylucus1641]

Alteration magic sounds like it would be useful way to become immortal. Can alteration and mysticism be combined?

[@lorgren4002]

maybe, alteration can change shape/properties/functions of living beings so why not? Some extremely advanced spell/ritual....and imho they can be combined

[@michaeledmunds7056]

I am very practical. I have no need of mysticism.

[@TheRealVorynDagoth]

If you believe hard enough, anything is possible Conversely, if you have yet to achieve it then your belief is too soft.

[@youknowwho9741]

I love the detail you put into your videos. It’s evidence of your love.

[@shiva_hardly_sarcastic]

The way you say fudgemuppet makes me feel so good everytime, it sounds so smooth and lets me know ill be amazingly entertained and fascinated by one of your videos again

[@sagacious03]

Quite a fun dive into the lore of TES! Thanks for uploading!

[@cellem6216]

The Auger of Obscura gives neat little insights into the many towers of Tamriel during the Psijic quests to restore the Staff of Towers in TESO.

[@insertfunnyhandlehere]

I have to say I largely agree with this. Most of these only becomes useful if you're going through a survival campaign or role-playing

[@gabrielhoelzle8476]

Depends on the game I would say. In oblivion you get massive stat boosts for being a vampire that make any fight that doesn't happen in the sun way easier, and some good spells like invisibility and charm

[@gillriet773]

so cool to see in depth, high quality skyrim content so long after it came out. Just downloaded it on switch and started my 750th new game. Keep it up!

[@thepoppets1052]

So what you're telling me is that the Dwemer broke the 4th Wall is the most literal way possible?

[@xzcrusher]

For the sweet love of Muppet I need the modlist compiled of all the mods you use, PLEASE by the divine!

[@blank-canvas1884]

Actually the best lore channel I’ve listened to almost all of the Skyrim videos from the builds to the lore immaculate job you’ve created a lot of happiness for us nerd

[@terrythegnome2408]

Dude thank you so much for making awesome Elder Scrolls content in 2020! You rock man!

[@haloninjax542]

No matter the subject matter you present it perfectly. Keep doing gods work lol

[@7ctony]

Thanks for these lore videos. 👍

[@linguisticallyoversight8685]

The ideal Masters have a form of immortality that is completely different from the ones you've stated similar in most respects probably to a lich

[@pruje]

This is probably your best video so far. Very informative.

[@esotericjay8701]

I am master of all that is Esoteric, you've done a well job at explaining this niche of the Esoteric.. 😉😆 😆 love the vids much appreciation for you're hard work.. Keep it up..

[@dariustiapula]

Imagine using the elder scrolls as a phylactery?.

[@zawwin1846]

Don’t they appear and disappear out of thin air randomly? Seems like a bad choice considering your soul can suddenly disappear out of existence without warning.

[@joemamajoastar8708]

@@zawwin1846 Lich: NOW WITH THE POWER OF THE ELDER SCROLLS THEMSELVES I WILL DESTRO-*poof*

[@Zehruk]

@@zawwin1846 Alternatively, you might just constantly reappear into existence. Like some sort of time boogeyman people never know when or if he might show up. Or if he already did.

[@markmartin2819]

@@Zehruk Reminds me of Mannimarco, as he does exactly that in Oblivion.

[@lukekirkpatrick8395]

What do you think SKYRIM is? Oh Todd...

[@dovichey]

You guys do some crazy good stuff. I need to lean how to approach an idea I want to work on like you guys do because damn these.elder scrolls lore break downs and such are amazing

[@demperkannis2568]

I love to watch these lore videos while playing skyrim. Thank you for these videos :)

[@leomasterson9649]

If our history was replaced with this history I would love to be a history teacher

[@Cosmodjinn]

Just help the Mad God regain his sanity, and take over for him. You know... simple things. Like CHEESE FOR EVERYONE

[@Alfred-pd5sb]

Honestly that intro was really good, shit was deep. Good video!

[@lacticaddictluke]

Been subbed for over a year but I’ve been needing out and watching tonnes of old vids. I can’t wait to play Skyrim when I got home from uni and I’m gonna buy Oblivion to play for the first time too. Will keep me occupied during prep for my first bodybuilding competition. Thank you guys keep up the great work

[@lacticaddictluke]

*nerding out

[@bronzecobra8556]

Hello fudgemuppet crew! I have been a fan of your channel for a few years. I was wondering if you could make a video on Aedric spirits such as the Magna Ge, fairies, and “Kynareth’s unseen spirits of the air” and what their role in the universe is in the popular religions of Tamriel, including the imperial cult and the St. Alessian order?

[@luissantiago5163]

Oh neato! This is going to be so interesting

[@TheFlanker47]

Awesome video man! my mind blow!

[@barbaarcapibara6287]

Amazing video! Keep up the good work!

[@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185]

Immortality is overrated and for milk-drinkers. Sovngarde awaits.

[@kingweeb3365]

"Art is lies"

[@ivongrey9047]

Sovngarde is boring

[@trollzynisaacjohan1793]

Well technically being dead is a form of immortality as an age less spirit.

[@deanholderde5959]

Trollzyn/Trazyn (Isaac) except your dead, not undead, but dead.

[@theleanbusinessman5431]

Insert unoriginal name here I strongly disagree

[@thewarriorofboros]

I love how the best method of achieving immortality is having reality tell you you don't exist and telling it to fuck off

[@silentsigma2917]

Your videos are so well written!

[@oldgamerchick]

Another thoughtful dive in lore. Excellent research and putting the lore in a well order process of information. Thank you for sharing this information. I enjoyed it very much. 🙃☕❤❤❤❤

[@ragewinninethousand4140]

You know, one question I’ve never heard answered in all these years is “why did the Etada or Aedra or the gods who chose to help build Nirn decide to do just that, stay?” We know what made the ones who wanted to leave but why did the other stay? Did they love us? Were they already too weak and thus had no choice? Did they think the heavens were a prison?

[@abyssalassassin1388]

After the Magna-ge and magnus discovered that building nirn would make them weak they left forming the stars and sun, but the aedra and other original spirits became too weak and thus couldnt escape or leave thus becoming the divines, elnophea(?) Yea then stuff happens and the aedra dont get involved because they be sleeping i think

[@Regina316]

Hmm... I think they say the Aedra wanted to finish creating Nirn. And to me, that makes sense. Think of the et'Ada as artists, collaborating together to create a masterpiece much grander than anything any of them could achieve alone. Now in the middle of creating it, they realized that if they finish the job, they will only ever be known for this one piece of work and none of their own. (You know, like actors who get forever stuck being known only for That One Role). Some didn't want that, but some... well, if nobody stayed, what they had already done would just fall apart, it would be an effort wasted and a possible masterpiece that would never come to be. Some just thought the sacrifice worth saving it and those were the Aedra. (The difference between the Magna Ge and Daedra being that the Magna Ge were willing to help in the colab while they thought they wouldn't have to give up anything personal for it, while the Daedra were just individualists from the start who wanted to create their own stuff just how they wanted it, without the need for any compromise what-so-ever, even if it would never be as grand as what several of them could make together. And then, of course, the Daedra got all jealous of what the Aedra had created and basically became art thieves. You know, stealing souls, making parts of their realms look like places on Nirn, that sorta stuff.) Whoops, that got long. Sorry!

[@JXEditor]

32:18 Well...

[@m.dwaynesteckley4832]

Brilliant dissertation, Drew.

[@cryfargamingnanan4772]

stumbled upon this channel after falling into the lore rabbit hole on the wiki. cant get enough!!

[@dimitripetkanri4847]

Last time I was this early I... I think I ran out of ideas

[@dELTA13579111315]

Ah excellent, i was just googling how to make myself immortal in Skyrim, thanks!

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

Fortify restoration loop with fortify health

[@reynard4823]

This is brilliant!

[@hentaimage95]

I would like to thank you for all the occult knowledge iof the real world i gathered thanks to your videos.

[@Purpie_Slurpie]

orcs actually are descended from elves, but they seem to have lost some of the benefits of elven blood when they became followers of malacath

[@noobgun12]

Dont they resist magic......

[@theFORZA66]

Just sit in the god damn meditation pose vivec

[@dylzNHylz]

You guys never stop putting out amazing content thak you so much 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@marcoscalebebarcellos5502]

Hey, Drew! Congrats on the sensible improvement on the voice work. Thanks and keep it up!