The Reachmen, Forsworn | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #87

[@HeWhoComments]

Thinking that you can conquer the Forsworn is quite the *reach*

[@Pumpernickel420]

The civil war is putting quite the rift between skyrim and the empire

[@jctiwc0237]

In-game you actually can. If you clear all their forts, caves, and camps forsworn literally cease to exist.

[@Harrrry12.]

@@jctiwc0237 ye but they just respawn

[@tiodosalgado5860]

@@Harrrry12. not with mods

[@Stoned_apeTheory22]

👀😊

[@smuggrog9821]

Ah yes the Reachmen, pretty much the main reason why adding sub races/ethnicity is at the top of my TES 6 wish list. Come on Todd, we need the fantasy celts to be playable dammit!

[@chrispink9716]

I also wouldn’t mind see such a system being put in the games too. They could even test it in ESO. They already have models.

[@telesticTroublemaker]

you know, that would also be possible if Bretons were lore accurate. They're meant to be more heavily Celtic, and also half man, half mer, but because of gameplay issues they were just turned into nords with cyrodiilic architecture.

[@_peepee_]

maomer too! maybe even an ancient direnni/ayleid lineages. thatd be fun

[@patrickdonnelly3231]

I think there are some Skyrim mods that add a playable Reachman race.

[@CareraDrift]

they are much more Germanic Tribes then Celtic loll

[@kabalofthebloodyspoon]

The Forsworn definitely do control all the most strategic forts in the Reach during Skyrim. The Nords keep trying to farm up the river valleys like the rest of Skyrim but it doesn't seem to work because it looks like they get highly seasonal rain

[@FaeFemboi]

One might even see the Reachmen's oral history being imperfect as a good and positive thing. Like neurons being reinforced by continual usage, the more useful tales that "survive" and are passed on more often will replace the "weaker" stories that either aren't as useful, paint the reachmen in negative ways, or have died out for other reasons.

[@Purriah]

Imagine a reachman with short arms. Not much of a reachman is he?

[@youstolemyhandleyoutwat]

*BADUM-TSSK*

[@badluck5647]

Booo

[@UmbraVir]

No he's still a reachman, he just can't reach, man.

[@seraphjohanson3402]

The Markarth DLC was awesome. I love seeing how different cultures interpret the Daedric Princes. It’s also interesting to me that the Princes in turn seem to reflect the way they’re depicted in each culture. Namira in particular is quite different to Reachmen than she is to other cultures, and the Reachmen perception of her goes completely unchallenged by Namira. She’s more closely associated with wisdom, the spiritual realm and the ancient dark. No “God of the Gross” stuff to be found. Hmm. I think I’m gonna stop myself there before I start simping for Namira again lmao

[@telesticTroublemaker]

When you think about it, it's a lot like how the Dunmer see the Good Daedra.

[@seand.g423]

Wait... *deploys Undying Ghost, then readies Ice Spike and Fireball* What. _exactly..._ do you mean by... "again", pray tell?

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

"Namira, the Cream of The Spirit Realm." Ok. I'm listening.

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Drew: _Brings up Reachman Circle Jerk Ritual_ Michael: _In his head_ "First the Pass or Smash episode, now this....Why the fuck do I even show up for this anymore?"

[@matthimfsmfs7194]

Timestamp?

[@HHLucifer666]

To bring us joy Michael, to bring us joy

[@grimnir2922]

This is exactly why he shows up

[@RiseReligion]

The Reach dlc in ESO really made me appreciate them way more than in Skyrim.

[@EmperorSultan]

ESO is the perfect single player MMORPG

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

can I play as a Forsworn in ESO?

[@DaWizard11]

@@cocobunitacobuni8738The forsworn are a political faction in the 4th era, ESO takes place in the 2nd, so no... you could make a breton and give him reachman markings and tattoos and dress him like a reachman though, that'd make you a reachman

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

@@DaWizard11 thank you for the response

[@nbmoleminer5051]

​@@DaWizard11I'm doing just that with my Devotee of Peryite.

[@RangerJackWalker]

I really like the Markarth Alchemist’s response when you ask her about the Forsworn. Bothela: "Only that they break an old woman's heart. So many friends, so many kin, all lost trying to rebuild a past that was over long ago." Also, Nepos the Nose’s comments. Nepos: “I've been playing this game for almost 20 years. Sending the young to their deaths. All in the name of the Forsworn. And I'm tired. So tired.”

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

Aye, a lot of older Reachmen in Skyrim have reservations about the Forsworn's war, even the stablemaster outside of Markarth.

[@valentineX1X]

Reachmen are my guys. When I play modded I download a saxon armour mod and reachman race. Id honestly like to have sub races in the game. Wood orcs, reachmen, Veeskhleel, naga and a few of the khajiit ones too. Or atleast have them represented as npcs around the world. In addition to lore attributed mounts and stuff. eso really widened the horizons of elderscrolls. The next game has a fucking huge mountain to climb.

[@lachlangardner2080]

Would want Maramour in my opinion

[@valentineX1X]

@@lachlangardner2080 the maormer are more of a full on separate race as opposed to a sub race though. Id 1000% have them as a proper race though. Eso did an amazing job with them.

[@kainevelakov4787]

Big facts. The next game needs to come in hard with racial armours too, If I've got a high elf follower using steel armour it wants to be in a high elven style, while my nord is rocking nord style steel.

[@lachlangardner2080]

Yea I get exactly what you mean I agree with you the reachman would be a nice addition I just personally prefer the maaormor

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

I only recently got into Skyrim (it sat in my library for years). I've got to SE now and I'm pretty much a Briarheart with my Briarheart companion Mariel. With the nexus mods you basically become forsworn and it's so fun finding and exploring all the Forsworn camps and seeing all my peeps. Many of the settlements are large with Alchemy, Enchanting, Blacksmithing and plenty of sleeping places. As for Armor, Banditry has a "Forsworn Gear" that is Dragon level with weapons on Ebony level. Then there's "Simple Forsworn" and "Forsworn Fashion More Variety" and "Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion" and "Forsworn are not Hoboes" and lastly "Vlindrel Hall Forsworn Shrine". The Mariel mod lets me be a female Briarheart and have some extra layered armor pieces. The Community overlays etc have the face and body paint. (sorry for the duplication).

[@tovarischkrasnyjeshi]

My first impression was Markarth was mined out of the mountain owing to all of its silver, and that's what exposed the dwemer construction. That, and, as people explored the city underneath, they drug up Dwemer materials to build the city with, say by replacing corroded doors or something. Calcemo at least does that much to build his museum, and if I'm not misremembering mod additions I'm pretty sure there's dwarven creations strewn about Markarth as decorations, especially on the way to the Jarl's throne. And that's all pretty late in the timeline; I'd imagine there were 2nd and 3rd era scholars just as interested in dwemer culture.

[@VaneWalker]

I like the aesthetics of the Reachfolk. Archaic, tribal. I would love if they became another playable faction

[@UmbraVir]

My thoughts exactly. Having a full side story of being able to become a briarheart (allowing the player to choose between the 3 archetypes but enhanced), and having the ability to be accepted in the encampments instead of them being constantly aggressive towards the PC. I feel there's a lot they could add to it like they did with orsimers over the last few games.

[@HickoryDickory86]

I always wished they were a joinable faction in Skyrim. Ideally, if you side with Madanach to escape Cidna Mine, you can become a Forsworn and, later, fight with the Reachmen in their own unique civil war quest line to liberate the Reach from the Nords, and extricate it from the wider Skyrim Civil War. In that case, upon a Forsworn victory and games-mechanically speaking, Madanach would function indentically to a jarl, with the typical quests and functions as expected, and both Igmund and Thongvor would immediately behave the same as they would as if their side lost the Skyrim Civil War and retreat to the Blue Palace and the Palace of the Kings, respectively.

[@seand.g423]

​@HickoryDickory86 right? We got Dragonborn, Dawnguard... how much more would a Forsworn DLC have changed, _really_ other than letting Bethesda pretend that who-tf-ever comes up with them _doesn't_ have OCD on that front?

[@half-slav]

Ah, the Gaels of TES; my absolute favourite race/culture. Literally just finished binge watching/listening to all of the podcast episodes an hour before this was uploaded wondering when they would talk about the Reachmen. A pleasant surprise!

[@mikehunter9780]

Like many out there. The job and life are...stressful. Id come home and pace myself to sleep with the work bouncing throughout my head, bringing that bullshit to the abode. But. I thank you all. The ES world and commaderie of it's fans help me disconnect from the mundane and serve as a reminder to be wide-eyed and hopeful.

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

It would be cool if you got to pick your ancestral origin in The Elder Scrolls VI for races like the Bretons, Nords, or Imperials. Nords of Ysgrimoran and Roscrean descent. Bretons of Direnni and Reachmen descent. Imperials of Colovians and Nibenese descent. It would be mainly a role-playing mechanic where some Npc's would refer to you by your ancestry instead of your base race.

[@TheFeltmeister]

Disliked

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@TheFeltmeister I like it a little rough 😈

[@telesticTroublemaker]

Perhaps the Direnni Bretons would have more Merethic features, like a sharper face, higher cheekbones, prominent brow and longer ears?

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@telesticTroublemaker Slight visual differences could be cool too. Although with the Direnni Bretons, I'd give the option between having more Mer features and having more human features. Since its been established that only some of the Nobility still have those features by the fourth Era.

[@seand.g423]

​@@lazilycatharticone4191to your last comment in the thread: Maybe, in Helgen terms, make it another slider in the Body category?

[@pepesaur3874]

Always loved the Reachmen and played reachmen styled characters. Glad we don’t just have Fudgemuppet videos but also a podcast discussion!

[@alyxxpratt678]

As I got this notification I was about to start a Celtic reachmen inspired huntress build. Great timing !

[@Vahmung]

Need to work on a mod that expands the Forsworn enemies, armors, weapons and settlements for Skyrim. I remember years ago there used to be a mod that added skull masks. I think in 2022 we can do better.

[@Jordan-zk2wd]

A lot of the races in the Elder Scrolls that people might frame as like "primitive" in a lot of respects I imagine might not exactly be so really, a lot of it might be a choice. Lots of Europeans defected to Indigenous communities in America's history because they genuinely thought that life in a certain tribe was better than their colonial lives, there are some cool stories you can read in that regard. Furthermore, a lot of ancient societies and social groups will reject certain technologies, much like they might reject any social idea spread to them, for reasons other than it not being effective. They might prefer the way of life that comes from say focusing on foraging, building with straw, or using certain stone tools, even when a nearby tribe or city might have productive farming techniques, stone buildings, or metalworking. It's not "primitive" in the sense of lack of understanding, but moreso "No, I get it; I just don't *want* it". Argonians are kinda like that with their intentional avoidance of permanent structure (at different points in history) for philosophical and spiritual reasons related to Sithis. The Bosimer have similarly been that with regards to the Green Pact. Orcs gimp themselves in many ways because they value being outsiders and with that whole philosophy with Malacath. Reachmen are probably similar, and I think that genetic variability which can incorporate more Nordic and Breton characteristics reflects that there may be people who are choosing to be Reachmen (perhaps often being taken as well, granted). There are a lot of aspects of different indigenous cultures IRL that may have actually been a response to previous experiences with domination or certain technologies and rejecting them, maybe some of Reach culture has come about as a reaction against the cultures they have interacted with that are "more advanced" in their minds, and they have intentionally defined themselves against that. It's a process IRL I've seen refered to as schismogenesis, where there isn't a pressure towards homogeneity but actually people tend to sort themselves into distinct culture groups that can define themselves against one another.

[@badluck5647]

I do see similarities to how Europeans treat the Native Americans to how the Reachmen are treated by the other races of men. Even the most war-like tribes seem tame compared to the war crimes of the colonizers.

[@Lybiusseverus461]

Anwesen we we we we Ehemänner entlegeneren Schelmenstücken jene free Ablenkung namentlich eher Punkte auf

[@calebbianco5841]

Ppj

[@nihilvox]

I once read a story about a man's conversation with an Amish fellow. The gist of it was, "Why don't the Amish use cars?" and the answer was simply, "How many of your neighbors can you name?" Basically, the rejection of automobiles forces tighter cohesion on a local level, because you don't really have a choice but to work with and get to know everyone you live near.

[@damcmadlad2975]

I think the reason why madinach calls himself king is because his tribe is majority made up of adopted/outsider races that would understand the concept of a king more then the traditional way of reachmen leadership

[@vazzeee]

I loved them in ESO The Reach dlc, they made them way more interesting to me.

[@patrickfieldsFPV]

I love how Scott knows so much about American history.

[@more17]

The Reach belongs to the Forsworn...and the Elder Scrolls internet belongs to FudgeMuppet.

[@Subject_Keter]

I dont get how they can claim the Reach if they fight literally everyone and wonder why they get stomped on harder then being in front of a black friday horde! Also dont give me "they owned the land fir a long time" you win or you die and if the imperials can die honorable, so can some muckbloods who cant even tell a breton to a breton unless they like ingest baby butts or whatever.

[@badluck5647]

@@Subject_Keter They want to have self rule over the land they inhabitant, but outside powers keep ganging up on them due to religious differences.

[@taylorhine2962]

@@Subject_Keter since when did the imperials die honorably? They literally surrendered to the the Thalmor. At least the Forsworn never gave up, and likely never will. The lunatics will probably go extinct trying to get the reach back

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

word

[@JewishBanker420]

I hope I live long enough to experience Elder Scrolls 6 half as much as I've experienced with Elder Scrolls 5

[@Coven_of_Hags]

I’d say they are pretty magically advanced. It’s just a different way they look at using it. Their grasp of magic is quite unique and in some ways singularity used in their magic alone.

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

I only recently got into Skyrim (it sat in my library for years). I've got to SE now and I'm pretty much a Briarheart with my Briarheart companion Mariel. With the nexus mods you basically become forsworn and it's so fun finding and exploring all the Forsworn camps and seeing all my peeps. Many of the settlements are large with Alchemy, Enchanting, Blacksmithing and plenty of sleeping places. As for Armor, Banditry has a "Forsworn Gear" that is Dragon level with weapons on Ebony level. Then there's "Simple Forsworn" and "Forsworn Fashion More Variety" and "Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion" and "Forsworn are not Hoboes" and lastly "Vlindrel Hall Forsworn Shrine". The Mariel mod lets me be a female Briarheart and have some extra layered armor pieces. The Community overlays etc have the face and body paint.

[@muslimcrusader5987]

The Reachmen are an interesting people. They’re the last nation of the Nedic race and follow an interesting religion. They main god of their pantheon is Shor (though they call him Lork) but since Shor was killed in the Mythic Era and exists merely as a ghost, the Nedes of the Reach worship Shor’s sister Namira as their primary deity as well as Hircine who they believe to be the God of Mortals. As a Stormcloak I can’t help but support the Forsworn and their struggle for independence. I hope the Nords of Skyrim and the Nedes of Reachland can come together and unite against the Aedra-loving Empire!!

[@badluck5647]

You know the Forsworn were independent until Ulfric showed up to massacre the inhabitants before the Empire could recognize them as a province?

[@thepunisher4507]

@@badluck5647 no the nords owned the area for centuries due to conquest and ulfric was asked to fight. Its not like ulfric just attacked them. Disinformation is not welcome imperial (who by the way did nothing as usual to help the nords) still like the forsworn but what you said was a twist on the situation.

[@badluck5647]

@@thepunisher4507 Ulfric was asked by the former Jarl to put him back in power before the Forsworn became a regonized kingdom in the Empire. Ulfric did take control and followed up with war crimes against the Reachmen and Nord "collaborators". European empires had direct control over Asia, Africa, and the Americas for centuries, but that hardly legitimizes their harsh control over the native populations in their colonies. The Reachmen and Orcs continously win their own independence only to have the newest empire to show up to recolonize their lands. They both deserve to retain their independence to at least administrate their own nation within the Empire.

[@thepunisher4507]

@@badluck5647 what war crimes exactly did he commit? He drove them out. The empire did absolutely nothing to help the nords they ruled over just like they did nothing to help anyone but themselves in the great war and the oblivion crisis. The forsworn have a claim to the reach but there is no fair reason the blame ulfric (a nord) for helping the nords. They can take high rock half the reach is there too. Stop conflating this with European imperialism.

[@badluck5647]

@@thepunisher4507 "What happened during that battle was war, but what happened after the battle was over is nothing short of war crimes. Every official who worked for the Forsworn was put to the sword, even after they had surrendered. Native women were tortured to give up names of Forsworn fighters who had fled the city or were in the hills of the Reach. Anyone who lived in the city, Forsworn and Nord alike, were executed if they had not fought with Ulfric and his men when they breached the gates. 'You are with us, or you are against Skyrim' was the message on Ulfric's lips as he ordered the deaths of shopkeepers, farmers, the elderly, and any child old enough to lift a sword that had failed in the call to fight with him." How is the actions of the Empire and the Nords any different than those of European Imperial powers? You say I'm conflating them, but don't point out any distinctions.

[@jordanmcbride9215]

I think they’re actually pretty magically advanced, considering briarhearts and turning witches to hags (of course hags turn warriors into briarhearts.) profane but kind of cool, that’s why I like as a Dunmer zealot hunting them down. Even Neloth sends you to figure out the heart transplants.

[@shredtildeath777]

I kind of have a theory. I think the durability of their civilization could be that they have vast and expansive underground networks and massive cave areas similar to blackreach all over the place that are kept secret and hidden we are unaware of. The reachmen on the surface could be like a very small amount of the population. There might be some who never even come to the surface and live off cave mushrooms or whatever vegetation and livestock that the surface reachman bring to them.

[@fudgemuppetfan2862]

I've missed out on a lot of content recently due to exams and such, I just began catching up with a couple older videos and this pops up... I guess Imma put off work for another hour :)

[@shoreshfathi3069]

The Reach belongs to the Forsworn! 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@hombreesloco4065]

There r alot of free men in tn where I live I go to a place of in the woods during the summer bo wifi jus us and bows and the tents that they built it really makes you feel connected

[@c.evans1804]

Maybe this was already touched upon and I just missed it but the reachmen seem to have access to powerful magic, some of the most powerful I think, why is it they still live like neanderthals, no offense meant. Honestly though, most cultures on nirn who have access to magic use it to advance their cultures, but in spite of this, the reachmen choose to remain in the wilderness foraging and crafting crude items from bone and stone. I just never understood it.

[@Scoot12321]

It is said that Madanach controlled the city of Markarth in the past and actually formed a independent kingdom for a couple years. There are plenty of reachmen who prefer to live in the city. There are also some well established farms and mines that are run by reachmen. They also wear modern clothing not animal skins. So to say that they are all primitive is false. The only reason the forsworn are living in the hills is by necessity since they are waging a insurgency. The forsworn are simply a violent revolutionary group and don't include the entire reachmen population in there ranks. The forsworn wearing animal hides in the fourth era could be debated on why but I personally believe it's like a uniform to symbolize their cause and history.

[@Dryghtendanitsu]

While doing my research into the Reachmen pantheon, I noticed a few things. The structure is rather unique with different deities taking different roles in their religion, as opposed to the Men and Mer ones of 'is it akatosh or Auri-el'. It's essentially Namira at the top, Hircine either just below her or equal, with other daedra being thrown in peacemeal. However, something I realized is this; in the capacity of how the daedra are being worshiped, the roles they fill could, hypothetically, be filled by the eight (they wouldn't worship talos, be real lmao). Mara as a mother would be a benign stand in for Namira, Kynareth for Hircine, Akatosh for Peryite, and possibly Julianos for Hermaeus Mora, though old Herma seems a little niche. I can't see them worshiping Stendarr (mercy) Zenithar (moni and stonks) or talos (nord culture hero), and def not Arkay with their usage of some sort of necromancy with the briar heart ritual. P useful for roleplaying a 'city' forsworn, or maybe it'll be what the reachmen pantheon has evolved into by TES 6.

[@TuorTheBlessedOfUlmo]

The forsworn are represented so badly. I expected a Celtic style, the Celts were a highly developed people's who had towns, invented chainmail and we're expert metalworkers. In game we get lunatics In animal furs.

[@Dwarf-hv9bw]

An argument for the "blood brother" theorie is that we already have something like that in tes with the orc strongholds so we can say its a thing in the univers so the reachmen can surely have it too (and if we see them as native american inspired the iroquois had a cultur of taking others into their clans too mostly people they catched in raids which had to show worthy first and than get "adopted")

[@torinjones3221]

Reachmen are basically like the Orcs in that they're regularly persecuted yet still survive

[@lofi7739]

I think its cool that each transformation represents their most influental deities Mamira for hagravens briarhearts for Shor and werewolves for Hircine

[@EddieJewells]

I just downloaded a reachman race mod. Role-playing as a reachman exile. You get 25 one handed starting as well 20 destruction. 20 archery. It's pretty cool. There's permanent face tattoos as well. I couldn't figure out how to change them.

[@austinsmith4343]

You guys are the best, and I love this podcast! Im going back through in VR and with my downtime I love hearing the thoughts here.

[@Abell_lledA]

Narrative of Self is the result of a feedback loop between “Separate Self” & Cosmos | 🎈

[@idipped2521]

Been craving a video about the Reachmen

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

I've always had the theory that back when the Dwemer were still around, Markarth was entirely underground, and in the era's since then, its been excavated by humans to make the surface city of Markarth or that geological activity has forced much of it above the ground since the Dwemer's disappearance.

[@TheFeltmeister]

Mmmm nah I don't think so man the dwemer has structures outside of many other ruins

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

@@TheFeltmeister Structures like towers with lifts, entryways, and the things that look like wells but are just flower gardens, but nothing as extensive as an entire surface city. Markarth could be the exception to the general subterranean life style of the dwemer, but it just seems much more likely that early human tribes in the reach would have just unburried the stuff closest to the surface after the dwemer disappeared.

[@Theology.101]

IM THE NUMBER ONE REACHMAN FAN LETS GO!!

[@InfamousTog]

Thank you for releasing all of these on spotify. I listen to so many while I work.

[@MURDERFACE555666]

your beast blood prevents you from restful sleep

[@tevinramon5763]

One wonders how powerful reach magic is compared to all other magic

[@u6lyboy]

Please do a podcast on specifically witches and hagravens 🙏🏼

[@EJDubbz]

This

[@Lybiusseverus461]

is

[@joekaz5198]

Sparta! 🦵

[@bacd-nn2lg]

Thongvor Silver-Blood has a interesting opinion about them.

[@slixkkdemon17]

had a nice run this morning, now i get to relax and kick off this pod! Noice!

[@DraketheDevourer]

I misread Cuhlecain as Cú Chulainn on my extremely bad resolution monitor back in the oblivion days, but in a kind of way the Reachmen are a kind of celtic/gaelic/germanic culture mashup. Makes me wonder if The Hound of Ulster was an inspiration for the devs.

[@eamonlyons8318]

Defo Irish, faolan is an Irish name.

[@CowboyMikeShow]

The fact that you can't join the Forsworn in the Civil War to separate from Skyrim under the Empires authority this will be very upsetting

[@christopherwichman7968]

Game of Chinese Whispers? I think we call that the telephone game in the USA.

[@thepunisher4507]

Good timing my most recent play of skyrim had my character just marry a reachman with a drinking problem.

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

I had mine marry a female Briarheart hahaha

[@notreallymyname3736]

"This is a nice cave, but it needs way more body parts on stakes and bone art." -Every Foresworn in charge of decorating. These guys make me so happy you can't smell video game environments. All their places must just stink like rotten meat.

[@christianr5875]

Not sure if you will still take them but I have a take my friends hate so for them it’s at least spicy. It was after we watched camels video theorizing about the augur of dunlain potentially being behind the great collapse and a deeper college of winterhold quest line that possibly got cut from the game. In comes my take, Cutting content but leaving behind a patchwork puzzle that can just outline the base concept enough to make a theory is the razor edge of bittersweet but almost always the better option if you do have to cut the quest line instead of removing everything to do with it. at least then we have a rough idea what they had in mind and can craft our own theories. Would love to play it through and get all the answers but then what would I do with all my thumbtacks and red string

[@joshuamourning6650]

I wonder how the reachmen would view vamprism or even lichdom

[@Beansidhe413]

The Reachmen have long been my favorite group in tamriel. As a pagan I identify with them, what with their ancient celtic/pictish themes, how ritualistic and nature involved they are, and with the Germanic influence of skyrim ECT. Btw will you guys ever cover the wyress covens of high rock and their connections to the reachmen?

[@eamonlyons8318]

Just celtic as picts were celts

[@Beansidhe413]

@@eamonlyons8318 I know that the picts weren't exactly celtic, but I think the reachmen draw some traits from both groups

[@capt.n.kano.8707]

I'm sorry but I found it funny up that Scott and drew look like there standing giving a power point😂, i used to watch the vid instead of listening to spotify but i been using spotify mostly recently for your podcasts so i havnt seem your faces for abit must be me lol

[@daveandbusters7853]

yea nothin like a spliff and an elder scrolls lore podcast

[@sweatyachievement984]

Loving the podcast 😊

[@EJDubbz]

1:21. Not magically advanced? Camel has a video about the auger of dunlain you need to watch. It only takes a few minutes...I mean hours 😆

[@trollface7998]

Yeah even old hags can ressurect a dead 😂 so I believe that guy from dulain did save the college though

[@williamtanner2184]

The reachmen reminde me of ancient people from the 13th warrior.

[@gerbenvanegmond4007]

Lovely topic, great podcast!

[@trevinwhiteley2730]

I’m just wondering when we’ll be able to become a briar heart in game

[@redcapetimetraveler7688]

yeah my favorite faction in the lore 🤩 the unbowded rebels

[@alemirdikson]

I see the Reachmen as a sort of dark mirror to the Bretons. The Bretons are half-human, half-elf. Half Padomay, half Anu. Where the Bretons of High Rock seem to lean closer to Anu, the Reachmen are strongly Padomaic. It's a duality. A dichotomy. I think Bretons become far more important when you consider the Reachmen as part of them. I just wish there would be more lore tying the two cultural groups together.

[@eamonlyons8318]

The western reach is in high rock

[@hipsnowsis7374]

Hi its 7am i have not slept im high so take this with a pinch of salt BUT what if, if TESVI is indeed set in northwestern tamriel and the iliac bay, by the events of TESVI, the forsworn have been driven out of the reach and are currently found wherever we as the player happen to be interesting hm? maybe not idk

[@aran.m977]

I knew it wouldn't be long until they cover the Reachmen

[@icedgalaxy3123]

I wonder if the detect life spell could be use on a larger scale by a few battlemages to find people hiding in the hills and cliffs

[@simontheblind8417]

I wish I would've been attacked simply for walking into Markarth wearing Forsworn armor. Take it one step further still, and have the guards make anxious or hostile comments if I'm wearing a different armor set but I'm carrying a Forsworn weapon.

[@Subject_Keter]

Make it so Breton Pc need to be sus out by the simpsworn if they are nearby.

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

Definitely, I'd also add that to other opposing factions as well. Walking in Solitude dawning Stormcloak gear would get you attacked on sight by the Imperial Guardsmen, same with walking into Windhelm. Alas, Skyrim was a game made to appeal to as many as possible so punishing the player for wearing opposing faction armor was out the window. *"That Stormcloak armor's getting on my nerves"* -Whiterun guard to the player if dressed as a Stormcloak.

[@nighturnal9708]

@@lazilycatharticone4191 But the Grey-Manes would love to see you wearing Stormcloak armor.

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@nighturnal9708 aye, while the Battleborns would scorn you for it. Whiterun would be the only neutral city until the war kicked off in earnest. Then you couldn't walk through the streets wearing Stormcloak drip unless you actively took the city with them.

[@oldgamerchick]

Very interesting and in-depth discussion a lot I never knew. Thank y'all. 🙃☕❤❤❤

[@ErnestoCifer]

Nice, one fun hour ahead for me

[@1Loftwing1]

Same

[@ThomFoolery12]

Totally want to see an Elder Scrolls: The Reach. You’re the Red Eagle reincarnated. Obviously never going to happen but I can hope.

[@nealderiggi3945]

An underused tool for role playing is adding factions to your character. If you add the forsworn faction then all Forsworn, witches, hags and hagravens are friendly to your character. Only works on PC as far as I know.

[@neckbeardedmorlock9258]

please i beg of the three to do a video on CODA i want to know but cant find it

[@13andit6]

Irish the reachmen are the Irish in the most similar manar

[@Scotttjt]

How about supplementing this series with some Fallout podcasts; I've noticed over the last few years you guys have steadily steered away from Fallout content. Which is understandable, as we haven't had much new in Fallout aside from 76, and unless these rumors about "New Vegas 2" are actually valid, it doesn't seem we'll get anything new for a while yet. But I think at least the occasional podcast episode would help scratch that Fallout itch myself and others have been feeling. Like, maybe for every two or three Elder Scrolls podcasts, you make a single Fallout one. Food for thought. Also, would love to see a podcast about Pelinal Whitestrake.

[@RosellenBlake]

Would love a fallout podcast! Although might be a little bad taste the now with Vladimort bombing nuclear power plants in Ukraine…

[@DannyQ1988]

im hyped for a new chapter in the tale of Askeladd now 👍

[@arcane3464]

Men who reach Reach have reached the capacity to discuss Reachmen.

[@morgand820]

The Reachmen are a rare something that Skyrim portrayed how i envisioned them when reading the lore books in morrowind and oblivion

[@elgringobandito7118]

Why is this foo Scott in Australia better educated about Native American cultures and societies than most Americans, lol. Not like it's a bad thing but we should have more knowledge about it, not cause we're more deserving but because we live here. I also love it whenever one of these Podcasts about the trampled on races of Tamriel just basically become a fictional argument for critical race theory, also no complaints there.

[@calvinalderman4934]

Wake up honey, new Fudgemuppet Podcast dropped

[@TheFeltmeister]

That's kinda weird

[@Purriah]

@@TheFeltmeister how?

[@A.H.M.K]

When is next episode of the LP coming?

[@FudgeMuppet]

Hopefully mid-late next week. There have been other projects we wanted to get done in between :)

[@A.H.M.K]

@@FudgeMuppet thank you. Can’t wait!

[@samueltheweber]

The lurchers from ESO remind me of a woodgrain version of Bioshock’s Big Daddy.

[@clock793]

Why private the Beyond Skyrim series?

[@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675]

Watch the movie the ritual. Some things in there remind me of the reachmen. In particular, the headdress of the forsworn look similar to the rituals totems.

[@youstolemyhandleyoutwat]

Maybe.... the ritual... does.

[@hellwispLV]

The Elder Scrolls writer team are taking notes from FudgeMuppet videos. Cause even they don't understand the lore soup they made.

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

Skyrim destroyed the nords lore, but at least gave us more Reachmen lore and I love those guys, especially their relegion

[@badluck5647]

ESO is what brought Reachmen culture alive.

[@badluck5647]

*Hot take: The Reachmen deserves to rule the Reach* The Reachmen deserve to rule their own country. The Bretons and Nords claim that the Reachmen are too "uncivilized" to rule, but that just seems like a excuse for the colonizers to take possession of the Reach's silver mines. The Forsworn ruled a Reach city-state for two years peacefully, and then the Nords came in and massacred Reachmen civilians and "disloyal" Nords. Clearly, the Reachmen were the more civilized rulers during this time. (I also wouldn't characterize the local Nord cannibals as "civilized" either.)

[@muslimcrusader5987]

The Nords treat the Reachmen like how the Empire treats the Nords. It’s sad really.

[@badluck5647]

@@muslimcrusader5987The Nords don't respect the Reachmen's religious beliefs and don't believe in the Reach's self-determination. It's amazes me how the Nords don't regonizes the hypocrisy

[@hermonymusofsparta]

Why do they have a claim to the land above everybody else? The cannibals in Markarth are not exclusively Nords and a Reachman is more likely to be a cannibal than a Nord because of their Daedric worship of Naimira. They're going around and killing innocent people.

[@hermonymusofsparta]

They ruled the city-state successfully after they came in and took over the Nords. What are you actually saying there? Is it okay for them to do it but not the Nords?

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

No one simply deserves to rule. You rule only if you can make others follow. That is the natural way of things. Reachmen would feel they have earned the right to rule only if they can enforce their rule. They're essentially a highly spiritual meritocracy. Nothing is given. Nothing is deserved. If you want it, you take it. If you can take it, then you've earned it. If you cant take it, then you haven't earned it.

[@nutzoid3934]

I've been watching your videos on magicka and the gods and it made me wonder, since mundus was created by the divine magicka (or just magicka) of the et'ada does that mean everything is not just charged with magicka by the stars but is made of magicka itself. And in that regard can you theoreticaly still harness magicka from the things in mundus even if the stars were to somehow disappear?

[@alexstump4958]

Oh yea. Finally!! The first time being the first one to view the new podcast!! Feel like I hit a new milestone 😂

[@fudgemuppetfan2862]

Impressive. Well done my friend

[@nalhurst9042]

Man you must set your sights low if this is a milestone for you a milestone for me was having my first kid buying my first pickup truck camping for 2 weeks alone by myself those were milestones for me for you it's getting to a KZbin video first

[@ElderDip]

@@nalhurst9042 you're life must be great if you take that long to reply to shit on someone you don't know. I feel bad for you man hope you get some help 🙏 very sad

[@nalhurst9042]

@@ElderDip I'm not the one who's milestone is watching some KZbin video about a video game that's sad and you feeling the need to defend your butt buddy that's also pretty pathetic the fact is well I've been living a great life you've been watching KZbin videos

[@ElderDip]

@@nalhurst9042 lol you seethe over so little it's funny. You know you have to watch KZbin videos to comment on them right? Do you know what hypocrisy means?

[@Jakovdred]

My tired eyes saw "Peachmen" and I clicked, now can some one do a peach themed forsworn mod?

[@iiii4024]

You know elden ring is out already right?

[@krushskulldaorkboi484]

Hey now I'll have you know I actually adore the reachmen BECAUSE of their enduring culture. Unlike the snow elves who if we go by the vampire dlc they did in skyrim were cucked by the dwemer after eons of being on top both magically and culture wise they were further felled by vampirism and the other races. even then we also have the dwemer who were so power hungry to play God that when they played with lorkhans heart aka the sleeping God iirc by the elder scrolls lore that they alt-deleted themselves from the plane of existence called Tamerial to talos knows where leaving behind their technology but then we have the reach men who saw all of it and refused to change their ways because of how it ended for others. Maybe a stretch but one can say it's also factors like that which makes the idea of change or advancement of a culture so hard to do. Either way my respect goes to the reach men because they call upon older powers and pacts that going by other aspects is considered unknown like that of the foresworn briar hearts even more that for as old as their culture is they're the only ones that's kept it alive relatively speaking.

[@Connall.]

What mics are they using? They all look the same. Looks and sounds of good quality.

[@NotaUnfamiliar]

Supprised you guys haven’t done any elden ring videos

[@TeeteringTod]

I would like to acquire a sturdy orphan so I can take it to McDonalds. Then I can ask the orphan if it likes the beef sandwich. I will teach the orphan how to trap stray cats, and fashion garments from the skins. Science will heal the emotional trauma inflicted upon the parentless child. With time the orphan will be able to recognize cat organs with the greatest of ease and feel at peace with the loss of it's parents.

[@Purriah]

What

[@alphasword5541]

Everything okay at home?

[@joekaz5198]

Seek help