Fujifilm Autofocus Firmware Announced

[@likaooz3018]

This guy is the sole reason why I’m still on Fuji

[@HombreDeLaNorte]

“Sole”

[@likaooz3018]

@ oops thank you !!!

[@specter116]

Me too

[@karimnasser9226]

I don't understand your comment, do you mean to say that Fujifilm cameras are no good, but "this guy" convinces you otherwise???

[@FellowEnginerd]

Same!

[@robowen3450]

Hi Chris, long term subscriber here. Would like to thank you for this initiative and hope that it works out. My only fear is that with the level of toxicity I’m seeing in KZbin comments and other forums that your results may be skewed by some with an axe to grind. However, if you don’t try you’ll never know. Thanks for all you do for us and wish you and your family a happy Christmas and a wonderful new year.

[@Paul_Rohde]

Axe to grind, or thinking they're a hero for another system.

[@robowen3450]

@@Paul_RohdeGood point although I can’t help speculating if there’s any element of mischief making by other brands enjoying Fujis discomfort.

[@mikefoster6018]

Definitely a chance. Over on Facebook, each post about this new firmware basically has about 25 comments under it, most of which are completely useless, snarky or cynical. It really shows how almost 'political' it gets. Similarly, when youtuber Roman Fox announced a fortnight ago that he's switching from Fuji to Sony he was very shocked by the negative reaction from the community and took his video down etc. I'm glad Pal-2-Tech generally gets decent comments under his vids, so I think he'll geta ton of good feedback on his grid/page.

[@robowen3450]

@@mikefoster6018Agreed and I hope you’re right about the comments for Chris. I was fortunate enough to catch Romans video before he took it down. It didn’t seem to be controversial or provocative just an update on his plans - he’s even posted another Fuji based video since then. The ones that really irritate me are those who announce to the world they’ve changed brands and everything is so much better - big deal - why are they still monitoring Fuji content or forums. I switched cars from Audi to Volvo this year but I don’t go on the Audi forum and sing Volvo’s praises.

[@mikefoster6018]

@@robowen3450 Totally :) My bugbear is how certain youtubers (not Pal-2-Tech here) seem to maintain their narrative/bias so much that you can pretty much guess what their reaction will be to the new firmware. In some cases, they obviously mess up - such as one KZbinr with a lot of followers who was negative about the new X-S20 firmware but didn't seem to realise that having their settings on Wide Tracking meant that it was only face/eye-detecting in the tiny little box in the middle of the screen. (I do wish my X-T5 only did face tracking in whatever size focus zone I'm using, though, as it seems to face track across the entre screen regardless - grabbing faces I don't want it to notice - so I switch off face/eye when there are crowds etc which is most of the time). I thought Roman's points about moving to Sony were great, and his skill set (great manual colour grading skills etc) will suit him well for Sony. For me, I stay with my X-T5 because it's the right weight and ergonomics for my 'walking around with it in my hand' style and because I think the sleight weight saving of crop sensors is worth the loss in low light performance. I was considering an expensive upgrade to the Sony A7CR but it looks less good ergonomically and I think one KZbinr said it has an annoying artificial shutter sound that you can't switch off XD

[@TwinIonEngines]

I submitted the form to help out but figured I'd post here what I wrote on the form additional comments section. Who knows, maybe this helps with exposure. Pre stating this is my own personal experience and might not reflect others experiences with the update. I shoot on an X-T5. I tested with the 33mm F1.4 and new 500mm F5.6 lenses. I shoot both landscapes and wildlife birds mainly, no video. The AF-S performance feels faster and a bit more accurate, definitely snappier than before, and responds well under low light conditions and light changes (tested indoors with the 33mm F1.4 in a dim room with bright windows), I did not feel that it had as many focus misses as it would before, where you'd need to focus on the same area multiple times to make sure it was actually in focus. The speed in which it does so with much less hunting was also a pleasant surprise. The AF-C performance is debatable. On one hand, while shooting birds, it more accurately detected the animal using "Bird Mode" even on forecast conditions (tested outside mid afternoon with cloudy grey skies both fore lit and backlit), and was able to stay locked and track them better, so that's good. However, while locked on a subject, the focus still breathes a lot, sometimes even visibly, which means you get a lot of misses on fast moving and even still subjects. Additionally the AF-C still struggles if the subject isn't clearly visible or has a clear silhouette, and ends up locking on sticks or trees or walls or the background. AF-C settings were: 3x3 zone, AF-C, track sensitivity 4, speed tracking 1, zone area switching Center, Bird Detection, CL Low Speed 7.0fps, AUTO ISO, manual shutter, manual aperture, pre-AF ON. Pre-AF was a disappointment, moving from a focused area to an unfocused one, it takes a good 2-3 seconds for the focus to switch, the hunting is inaccurate, and almost never lands with correct focusing, on top of that the hunting is extremely jerky and "stepped", not smooth at all. Additionally, if you're using AF-C and half-holds the shutter to focus, then moves to aim at an unfocused area, it either A: does not even try to focus on the new area, or B: it does so in a jerky, "stepped" like and very very slow manner (these focus tests I did with the 33mm F1.4). I did not test video, but I'd imagine the pre-af and af-c issues to be a big problem for video if they behave like that.

[@MrDscott14]

Thank you for the detailed feedback and for posting.

[@davidjoel111]

2:30 I hoped you would say, "no firmware updates were harmed on this domain"!

[@RichardBO9]

Chris, you are the best. Happy Holidays!

[@cbarrett83]

Why not include the x-h2/x-h2s? The same autofocus algorithm was rolled out in firmware update for those cameras a few weeks ago. I definitely have some opinions on it. It’s slightly better. But my biggest complaint with Fujifilm autofocus is what/who it focuses on. It doesn’t matter what I chose in the settings it’s still all over the place. My subject could be 10 feet in front of a group of people and even with “front” chosen in the settings it will still pick up on people in the background. Front, center, auto, it doesn’t matter. Same exact result on all 3 settings. It’s like that setting doesn’t actually do anything.

[@brucesorrell3647]

Many, many thanks, Chris, for this good news ! As others have mentioned, you're the reason many of us are sticking with Fuji. I have to wonder what happened to their customer focus. In the past they were issuing top notch firmware updates on a frequent basis. But those days seem to be over. I tried twice to get their *customer service* people to give me an ETA on the X-T5 firmware update and both times I got no help. What I did get was rude, impatient, rough on rats ! Anyway, thanks for staying on top of this situation. Your help is invaluable ! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours ! Slainte !

[@serkoart]

Thank you for doing this! I'll be sharing firmware feedback after testing with my Fujifilm X100VI this weekend.

[@jbo1902]

I have the XT-5. I’m not a professional so just family and shots. Always found the XT-5 has good AF-S but the AF-C got progressively worse as updates were made. I have used it with the new firmware briefly and I can confirm that AF-C for stills seems much improved. Still not perfect but I don’t expect that. I love the camera and that AF isn’t perfect does not bother me. Using the XF 18-55 f2.8-4 and XC35 f2. Also should mention that I haven’t seen any issues or bugs with the new firmware.

[@Commonyou7149]

@@jbo1902 AFC is very much needed when you photograph kids and pets as parents.

[@JoseMariaOliveira]

I am just sorry that I don't have an X-T5. I would love to participate on your poll. Wish you success.

[@Wavesonthemountain]

Well done Chris. Great effort and let's hope Fuji users respond. I used to own an XS20 and was considering upgrading to an XT5. But that won't happen until the focus issues are resolved.

[@meyou58]

Yeaaaaa! Finally! ...Merry Christmas to you and your family!

[@crimsondash5]

This guy is the reason why I switched systems but still stayed interested in Fujifilm

[@Qimchiy]

Could you check lowlight autofocus. Most test autofocus in optimal light. I wanna know how well it does in suboptimal.

[@davebenson1504]

Thank you Chris... Happy Holidays to you and your family

[@kian.merrikh]

Thank you Chris for all your work to keep us Fujifilm XT-5 (and other model) owners informed, engaged, and entertained! Your efforts are much appreciated by this group! Happy Holidays to you and yours!

[@edc5338]

I downloaded the firmware on the X-T5 and my X-S20. I shot a few test shots with the new 16-55 2.8ii lens. The results were great but I will look forward to your test video.

[@mikefoster6018]

I loved my mark 1 16-55 last year and the seeming success of this new firmware has persuaded me to upgrade to the lighter mark 2 that you have. I took the new firmware for the X-T5 on London's streets twice and it seems to be really quite nice now in AF-C for photos.

[@paulchoccyt1303]

Nothing for XT4 😢

[@davebanham9729]

Nor for the X-S10!

[@emadalemad6822]

@@davebanham9729 😣

[@jjstarrprod]

Awesome initiative, pal ! Glad to see you still care, both about Fuji AND their fans (which, coincidentally, also happens to be yours ^^) Merry Christmas and happy new year. ! Enjoy your holidays, and rest well !

[@jaygreer7430]

Great idea! Thanks for doing this. Have a wonderful holiday!

[@hanzjeremyjutic671]

they still need to include xt3 and xt4

[@sfgallo1542]

X-T4 AF is good as it is (except for video) - processor is not burden by AI bullshit

[@PhươngTuấn-u4i]

Hi Chris, Merry Christmas. May I know your lens on XT5 with hood?

[@markfilosi6967]

Thank you so much as always for the excellent and timely review. I will gladly fill out the survey as soon as I test my camera with the firmware update.

[@TimvanderLeeuw]

Why not add the X-H2s and X-H2 which got the same firmware update last month?

[@L3ON360Z]

He doesn't have them

[@Draz-]

Totally unrelated, but what lens hood is that at the start of the video?

[@bernardoramos1412]

GREAT IDEA!!!!!! Congrats!!! I’m going to perform tests prior and after the update. Thanks

[@jaredmonez]

Great idea, love the content and information you provide and bring to the photography community! Happy holidays!

[@iaincphotography6051]

Cheers Chris, I shall wait for you review before downloading. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

[@Dmitriy.0]

I don't think there's something that Fuji doesn't know. I believe they either don't care, or just are incapable of fixing their autofocus mess. And yes, it's still a mess on X-H2s even after the most recent update.

[@stanobert3475]

After a brief test, it appears that the autofocus has improved. I love my XT-5!

[@StarlordStavanger]

no xt4 :(

[@hansa2026]

@@StarlordStavanger X-T4 havent recieved any love from fuji in a long time. Sucks!

[@r423fplip]

Why would they waste time on old cameras.

[@RichardAnnette-XT4]

Patiently waiting for your results

[@mycorrhizae111]

Appreciate all your hard work that goes into your videos and the information you provide. Thanks .

[@_brushie]

Would you open the survey options for the XH2/s and the one GFX body that got the af update before this batch?

[@jeffbazelmans9622]

Could the feedback include the last firmware updates for X-H2 and X-H2S as these were aimed to improving autofocus as well?

[@terryosborn]

Thanks for the video Chris, great as always. May I wish you and those you love a joyous Christmas and a happy New Year. Terry.

[@mikefoster6018]

I've taken out my X-T5 in London's streets twice using this week's new firmware. For street photos or people and vehicles moving etc. To me, it now seems good with AF-C and sticky compared to what I remember from before. My settings are AF+MF switched off, 'focus priority' (not shutter priority), 'cheetah' custom tracking mode and usually medium focus zone that I happily move with the joystick. Using the Fuji 33mm f1.4 lens.

[@fengshuischoolindonesia6161]

I ever read that a firmware update may sometimes decrease the camera performance? is that true?

[@mikefoster6018]

I love Pal-2-Tech's idea here of sourcing wide evidence/feedback - it seems humble and sensible. It's strange, but it does seem like some other KZbinrs just keep defending or keep attacking Fuji and I can almost predict what their reviews of the firmware will say.

[@dquarks]

Looking forward to your next video. Thanks for your efforts 👌

[@hawwat]

I'm still on the firmware version that came with the XS20 when it first launched. Is it worth updating?

[@djstuc]

If your camera is working, probably not.

[@FlorianCortese]

Grat idea Chris. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to the Lee family. Enjoy your limited hiatus and try not to work to hard (get some damn sleep!) during it!!

[@edwardkurek5355]

I downloaded to the new update to a sd card. When I tried to install the update the camera didn’t recognize the update.

[@Absolutleyaddictedtovideogames]

@@edwardkurek5355 it's easier doing it by the app tbf

[@mskedarnath]

Can we expect any firmware updates on Fujifilm X-S10?

[@Tbonyandsteak]

Can we whine too on this page?

[@secrtasianman7]

Fuji needs to just hire pal2tech as a part time consultant tbh

[@igihara2662]

Hello this morning trying to update fuji xt-5 update Got Error 'firmware file is corrupted' ???

[@LaurentS-gd8dx]

the new firmware is far better for afc. tested it yesterday when released, no more focus lost when moving around with focus locked.

[@mikefoster6018]

Yeah it's behaving nicely on mine too. Seems greatly improved for my AF-C hobby street photos.

[@Valerycorbin]

Any false positives?

[@trail.squatch]

bummer they didn't include the xt4! especially since its only "one" model older than the latest gen.

[@danielschmaderer]

I can’t wait to update the firmware.

[@mattpowell6975]

I appreciate all your efforts, even though my X-T5 mostly sits in a bag and the X-H1 is still my main workhorse.

[@stefanoderoc]

Well done Chris! Could we do the same to ask Fuji users what kind of cameras they would like Fuji to develop? For instance, I would love that Fuji could make a monochrome camera with no video function. That would be great if camera manufactures would listen to real customers needs in order to develop their new products.

[@Obscurainc]

off topic question..do u really need to calibrate your monitor for social media posts?

[@JoeWithTheGlasses]

First impressions with my XT-50, it feels snappier I think? Overall it seems like it goes through the focus range quicker and is able to hit focus first try on things I previously had issues with. That was only like 30 minutes of messing around with it though... I'll be in Japan for a couple weeks so hopefully I can fill out that form sometime during my trip with how my experience fares.

[@TimHunold]

Updating the XT5 now, but I still think the XPro3 had better AF, hopefully it will at least be on par with it.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Great idea!

[@lionheart4424]

Yo that website form is a great idea!

[@gregpantelides1355]

Fuji, please re-release the TX-1...no AF required. Chris please use all your influence to help get us a re-release of this legendary 35mm film pano camera. :-)

[@fe_ze_ko]

would be great to add xh2 and xh2s to the list as they have gotten update a bit earlier

[@Sean-603]

can you do a test with the xh2 not S just the reg xh2

[@henrychinasky194]

Hi and thx for everything. After so much bad feedback about the AF of the xh2s , the 7.1 update came out and … no serious photography test (sports, portrait, street …) by serious Fuji youtubeurs. Is the update so perfect that it needs no comment or is it still so bad ???

[@Geophoto63]

AWESOME !!,, I just installed it I can't wait for tomorrow to test it and check out!!, Thank you so much for your valuable time and knowledge the great fuji community are very grateful for your generosity and dedication to show US all bout Fujifilm cameras,, just have a question??, I forget to safe my settings but after the installed a fresh Firmware I have some of my settings not sure if it change something!!,,, again thank you so much!!

[@Wolfihouse]

Of course, we would also like an update for the X-T3 /X-Pro 3 which still has a lot to say. Don't tell Fuji you can't write it for her... Merry Christmas

[@domTT]

Fujifilm stated a partially revised AF & tracking algorithm. So small expectation only. IMO, though Fuji never had the best AF, introducing of the various subject tracking features was when issues started. AF software somehow is not able to integrate well, with many of the sensor/lens/processor combination. I don't believe that they are not trying, may be it is currently a losing battle. May be till the new generation of sensor & processor and software are introduced.

[@mikeireland2428]

I prefer a delayed assessment that isn't rushed and allows time for more testing and review.

[@worthashot]

Thanks for everything you do. It's very much appreciated!

[@fengshuischoolindonesia6161]

Thnak you Chris. an amazing uptodate topic

[@davidbridenstine6358]

"losing game of Tetris." IYKYK

[@streets28mm]

I don't think there is anything out there that Fuji hasn't heard when it comes to its AF!

[@dinoreps]

Thank you! I think this is an excellent idea. It would be a very useful tool for capturing users' experiences and sharing them with Fuji. If the survey numbers are high enough, it would be a missed opportunity for Fuji not to use the data to improve themselves.

[@mohannedkouki8925]

I hope they address the older models as well , i have an xt4 that i love but the autofocus keep missing . 😢

[@o.c8951]

great idea! thank you

[@cbimage]

Thanks. Well done.

[@Mowikan]

No firmware was harmed with this youtube video 😂

[@parranoic]

Love how they abandoned previous gen like they are ancient cameras from 40 years ago

[@hansa2026]

This really sucks! X-T4 needs some love too.

[@trowawayacc]

Yes.

[@LashahVideo]

This is a continuous cycle that Fujifilm has been doing years (stringing the users along in anticipation of the next Firmware to fix issues that were not fixed in the previous firmware). I sold my X-T5, X-H2S, and XPro3, along with 10 premium Fujifilm Lenses and the Viltrox 7mm f1.2. I'm pleased with my GFX100SII and GFX50SII, but needed a run and gun camera that delivers with stellar Auto-Focusing and great video. I selected the Lumix S5II as my hybrid camera and the Lumix S1R for projects that don't require a Medium Format (or when the Medium Format is overkill).

[@alanglassman6473]

Similar update for the GFX100s ll. Firmware version 1.1.0

[@oregonduc]

Should make a selection also for the other firmware for the XH2S series and etc

[@devbowman]

Meanwhile us XT-4 shooters be like 😢😢😢

[@MrJarendell]

Power to your elbow as we say a cross the pobd

[@NotAnotherChannel_Channel]

I have installed the new FW on both the VI and XT5. So far, seems great. I had tested the FW update on the H2S and found it works very well. I’ll wait to fill out your form a couple more weeks, if you keep it up, as I am traveling and shooting with both the VI and the XT5, as luck would have it. I’ll have plenty of chances to test it out.

[@xDrew292x]

If anyone owns X100VI, X-T5, X-20, X-T50? Please submit any info on the firmware update on AF. I cannot participate because I shoot on X-T4.

[@nevvanclarke9225]

I tested it last night and it's working a lot better.... My test is really simple.I actually put an action film on the TV and I sit on my couch.And I point the camera.Add the peo on the tv as they move about and then I take photos of them and it was definitely tracking a lot better ... Please put the link up.I would definitely fill out the survey

[@jimkiousis]

Show some respect Fuji for XT4.

[@karimnasser9226]

I love this channel and will continue watching it despite. As far as Fujifilm AF I have given up, my last project using a X-H2s was a partial disaster, the green box showed focused on the subject, but when I uploaded to my PC some of the images were out of focus. I used the latest 56mm f/1.2 lens, and 35mm f/1.4 both at f/2.8. Any old camera would have nailed these shots using continuous AF without issues. This problem cost me quite a bit of money, not to mention embarrassment and lack of future project from that customer. I have gone back to using manual focus and a different brand and couldn't be happier. I know what I am focusing on, and nail focus 100% of the time. Why didn't I stay with Fujifilm and use manual focus lenses? Because I am very upset with Fujifilm, and I don't feel I should give them my business for many reasons including the AF issue. Happy Holidays!

[@marcokleinert1827]

Thanks for your effort! It's very good idea. 🙏👍

[@Powerland56]

The questions are completely useless without asking for the settings used.

[@kennethnielsen3864]

Thanks for sharing.

[@johnvienna3422]

Wait... a winning game of Tetris, surely... A losing game would have plenty of space in it... just had to say something 😂

Unfortunately even with you I gave up on Fuji and switched to Sony

[@keithahlstrom176]

How about an xt4 update to at least get it to not suck? They are not forcing me to buy an xt5 by not supporting their “older” gear. I’ll just move onto Sony.

[@vo4wb]

Moving from Nikon to Fuji film was the biggest consumer mistake of my life. Autofocus and Fuji are just not compatible.

[@dentReviews]

I will test my xt5 and x100vi with multiple lenses and settings and report to your site ..

[@siradan1478]

I am refusing to buy any fuji gear before there is an successful update on older models.. xt4 xt3 s10

[@djstuc]

lol, that’s never happening, so good luck with whatever system you choose.

[@siradan1478]

@ i am afraid you are right… will keep my old lenses but switch to sony i guess

[@pchechenov]

İ glad to help with question’s page, but…. XH2S user, sry.

[@dskstoyan]

xt4 - 404 kaizen missing. i wont upgrade no more, no new camera , fuji, no improvement what-so-ever about C-AF.

[@tydra74]

Fujifilm left XT4 users by themselves as they did with XE4.

[@jakobschneeberger3965]

👍👍👍

[@JakeChambersOy]

I didnt have the chance to really test AF on stills. But so far, the video AF is really disappointing on my X-T5 with this firmware, to the point where my X-T3 delivers smoother transitions and keeps things in focus more reliably. For example when moving the camera towards a subject or walking towards the camera myself.

[@teddy3011-z7c]

You may change the AF setting. Sounds like a problem which can be fixed.

[@JakeChambersOy]

@@teddy3011-z7c I wouldn't have posted here if I hadn't tried

[@GJ_Brown]

I’ll wait😴