Fujifilm XPAN crop vs Mamiya 6 MF: Panoramic Mode Showdown 📸

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@JTobiason Ай бұрын

the Mamiya Is such a wonderful camera to use. Thanks for this. It makes me want to load mine up and go make some photos!

@jonny141 Ай бұрын

I often use my Mamiya7ii with the panoramic kit! I have the 43mm and the 80mm and i use them both for the format. Also love shooting without the mask to get the sprocket holes exposed

@ElMarkoCinco Ай бұрын

for me, your GFX xpan crop photos are the winner. great composition

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@ElMarkoCinco Thanks for the input, there is something special with the ultra wide format.

@rucksack_raven Ай бұрын

Love your photos, but your wool sweaters even more 😍

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@rucksack_raven Thanks👍

@6xxStativ Ай бұрын

It's like two different worlds. GFX shots like feel like a cold post-apo future world, while Mamiya feels way more romantic, like from an old movie. But I actually like the Mamiya crop more, XPAN format often feels a bit too wide for me.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@6xxStativ yeah, it’s really surprising shooting them side by side.

@leonarddaneman810 Ай бұрын

Films can have very high native resolutions, but about half of that is lost due to processing and lens quality (lenses performing best at certain apertures). Digital sensors can have pixels from 1.6 nm to 5 nm, which are selected to match the lens/optics or sensor size. Larger sensors, like the GFX (43x33) can take advantage of lower noise and light gathering of the larger 5 nm pixels. Better low light performance, less noise, and greater dynamic range can be seen in portraits and landscapes. I shot a landscape with 4x5 Vericolor Kodak film, 160 ASA. It was a 12 second exposure through a very sharp Japanese superwide. It may have been the processor's fault, but the grain prevented any print larger than 8x10, 11x14 really pushing the limit of grain taking over the image. It took ten years to afford a quality scan of the negative, and using Neat Image (an early noise reduction tool) to create a digital image file able to print 360 dpi grain-free images up to 40x20 inches . . . the grain and color noise gone without loss of sharpness. Film may measure as sharp, but loses detail through the lens, in the grain and dye cloud layers, through the enlarger lens, and finally limited by the paper it is printed on. Digital is a shorter route from lens to pixel size (x4 due to RGGB Bayer Filter), i.e., sensor size determining how much to enlarge or crop, and base l/mm, dpi, or ppi. So, which is better? Film or Digital? That XPAN format gives the GFX a run for the money, but 'pixel-peeping' the final prints with a loupe will be the final measure.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@leonarddaneman810 Great post, thanks for sharing. The GFX resolves more detail than Kodak gold, but film handles light much better I think.

@leonarddaneman810 Ай бұрын

@@RH-adventure I have the Pentax 645z which uses the same SONY sensor as the GFX50 . . . you can see the superior tonality and sharpness compared to a OMD 20mgpxl.

@iNerdier Ай бұрын

I used to own both and sold the xpan, which maybe gives you a clue as to what I preferred. I would also agree that with the panoramic adapter in I almost always use it with the 50mm. You can always edit the colours on the film anyway, if I was printing those I would have cooled them down a lot with filters, so why not do that with the white balance when you scan if you want something more accurate.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@iNerdier Thats really interesting. I would surely take out some of that kodak gold yellow if I would print. Thanks for sharing👍

@erikjohnson4876 Ай бұрын

Beautiful as always, the photos too.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@erikjohnson4876 Thanks🙂

@shengtongzhu887 Ай бұрын

These are great topics!

@RoomRock Ай бұрын

Really great watch! Thanks for sharing.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@RoomRock Thanks, happy you found it useful🙂

@bvaccaro2959 Ай бұрын

The Mamiya 6 film images are soo much more than the GFX. I personally woudl have probably pushed the GFX images a little more in post BUT film really does have a dimension'ality to it without looking crunchy or crushed that is hard to do in digital. Especially with the higher resolution digital cameras I feel. Also Mamiya lenses are incredible and as good as the best of any brand. I had an Mamiya 645 AFDii that I shot almost exclusively with film and that kit lens it came with is awesome. I have a Mamiya 7ii and really need to get this adapter for it as I have the 50mm and your shots look great! Anyways my vote is obviously for the Mamiya film images over the GFX, Lol.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@bvaccaro2959 Agree,I can push the GFX files much further. But before I developed the film I was kind of happy with them. Shows that shooting film can improve digital photography.

@mike747436 Ай бұрын

A better comparison is with a Mamiya 7 and the 135 adapter kit, which gives you the same 24x65 format as an Xpan.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@mike747436 True, bur the same crazy price as the xpan, and no frame lines for panoramic which is a deal breaker for me. But I would try it if I could get my hands on one.

@mike747436 Ай бұрын

Last time I looked the xpan was at least as expensive as a Mamiya 7 if not more, and of course you get a top medium format camera too. There are frame line indications for 135 in both the internal viewfinder and the 2 external viewfinders for the wide angle lenses.

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@ Thats great news, I always thought there were no panoramic framelines in the internal viewer. Game changer, now I need to find a lot of money🙂

@mike747436 Ай бұрын

I can only speak for the Mamiya 7ii which is the one I have. I don’t know if the original 7 has them, but hopefully yes as it’s a bit less expensive.

@jamesprivet Ай бұрын

Very nice. What lens did you use for Mamiya 6 please, 50mm lens I think?

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@jamesprivet yes, 99% of the time it’s the 50mm in Panoramic mode. The others becomes way to zoomed in.

@notalireza Ай бұрын

Well the mamiya 6mf is around 3000$ and the panorama kit is almost 1000$ So it’s not a great alternative in terms of price but it certainly is a fantastic camera

@RH-adventure Ай бұрын

@@notalireza That has to be with some lenses also? In Europe I can find a couple of Mamiya 6 MF with 75 mm lens for 2000 euros. Panoramic kit is around 400 now.

@jonny141 Ай бұрын

But then also the Mamiya 6/7 is fixable. The XPAN at some point is not