FULL INTERVIEW: Attorneys Steve Schleicher and Jerry Blackwell discuss Derek Chauvin trial, verdict

KARE 11's Lou Raguse sat down with attorneys Steve Schleicher and Jerry Blackwell, who were members of the prosecution team in the Derek Chauvin trial.
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[@jessiearies1912]

These two men Jerry Blackwell and Steve Schleicher were phenomenal! They spoke not only to the Judge, Jury and those in attendance but to the whole world. I was captivated by their integrity, compassion, TRUTH and intelligence! I will always admire and respect you two. Thank you from Canada!

[@teresawicks9859]

AAAAMEN!! I WAS PLEASED 😀 AND IMPRESSED 😀

[@lynnball9512]

Yes❤ I absolutely agree 💯...and I couldn't have said it better...also coming from Canada❤

[@Mikados_Advark12]

I thought they were bang average

[@lymaexp6421]

Haha absolutely agreed! I'm also from Canada...was so proud that I wrote to schleicher, and he replied!

[@purpleldv966]

The same from here in Romania (close to Poland :D )! I've watched their work and couldn't but sit in awe at their amount of preparation but also their responsiveness to fresh statements when cross-examining witnesses! These are good people that show there's hope for humanity, for truth and for justice!

[@kambrialannetti7118]

I’m a civil practice attorney and was fortunate to watch the entire trial. I was thoroughly impressed by the prosecution team and the extreme civility and emphasis on the rule of law. These attorneys are a real credit to our profession

[@vibovitold]

What was noteworthy to me (a non-American who heard the news, but didn't follow the trial that closely) was that the prosecution - at least judging the closing argument - seemed to have chosen to keep the race element pretty much out of the case.

[@dklintworth1992]

How do you feel about them now that more evidence is coming out that these two prosecutors grossly mishandled and withheld evidence that cleared Chauvin of ANY wrongdoing? These two along with Judge Cahill likely committed a serious Brady violation when they withheld the body cam footage of the incident as well as not allowing the training manual that approved the use of MRT.

[@RodinThink28]

These 2 lawyers Jerry and Steve really do give the lawyer profession a good name. They worked so hard to seek justice and did it without pay. Bravo guys, well done !

[@Mikados_Advark12]

Without pay? Are you serious?

[@Nelkstories]

@@Mikados_Advark12 they work for the state

[@albertdewornu243]

Fantastic Attorneys

[@Mikados_Advark12]

@@Nelkstories So they got paid - oh for goodness sakes

[@missshae2886]

It specifically stated in the video that the services were provided pro Bono

[@skittlesrainbow4853]

Jerry and Steve should practice together. They're geniuses! It was captivating start to finish.

[@tellysantos2392]

i thought they was legal partners cuz they worked so well together like pippen & jordan 😊

[@seymourlove4788]

@@tellysantos2392 Kobe & Shaq Allen iverson & Arron McKee

[@careaidegirl31]

Yea and its so cool that they consider each other as friends now.

[@MarvaLuss1]

I wholeheartedly concur.

[@elsabean6791]

I watched the entire trial from start to finish, and these guys’ voices are like hearing friends talk now lol. I’m still completely in awe of the fact that these two did what they did for free. The amount of work that happened behind the scenes that we didn’t see is, I’m sure, just massive. Much respect for these guys and congrats to them, they were phenomenal.

[@simon7107]

Dr Tobin conducted his scientific work for free as well by the way. There were a lot of genuinely good people with good hearts in this trial who simply wanted to see justice being served.

[@elsabean6791]

@@simon7107 Omg Dr. Tobin was my favorite witness. I feel like he made the most impact out of anyone. And it doesn’t surprise me that he did it for free, he seems like a very good & decent human being.

[@Rock-ry1qq]

They definitely wasn't playing

[@nkeiruka5930]

@@elsabean6791 Yes he was my favorite as well. He really know what his doing.

[@mariannfodi2773]

@@elsabean6791 Mr. Schleicher said: “You don’t have to be dr. Tobin to recognise this. It’s probably nice to be dr. Tobin.” 😂

[@Edocska]

The first day when I saw Mr Schleicher talking to the witnesses in a nice and polite way, smiling at them and being compassionate, I wasn't sure if he was strong enough for this case. Then he cross examined the defense's use of force "expert". Oh boy, he proved me wrong... I enjoyed Mr Schleicher's work the most but Mr Blackwell was amazing as well. Thank you for all the educational element and all the time and effort you have put into this case.

[@Vamavid]

I had underestimated Mr Schleicher as well, then he cross examined the defender's expert witness. LOL

[@theopinionjunkie7381]

me too. Loved this prosecutorial team

[@mariannfodi2773]

“You don’t have to be Dr. Tobin to recognise this. It’s probably nice to be Dr. Tobin.” 😂

[@tamlynn786]

“Did you say resting comfortably on the pavement?!” 😳-Steven Schleishler Classic.

[@TheHouseofcoolstuff]

I was so impressed by Mr Blackwell! The way he talked like he was talking to a friend, he was so calm and eloquent and talked in such a normal manner that anyone can understand him!

[@NiggaPleze123]

I speak for everyone when I say.... Y’all are Heroes!

[@karendegenerous600]

Including Nelson??

[@joep4911]

Not me!

[@tracyrasmussen8117]

Please don't speak for me. Thanks

[@wolke1955]

@@karendegenerous600 Nelson was terrible 😐😱😳😈

[@pridenprejudice2004]

Excellent interview. I'm so glad to see that they're not full of self-aggrandizement. They are grounded and humble, and pressing forward. So refreshing.

[@a.sween-parris5275]

Yes very humble not like Mr Nelson

[@pridenprejudice2004]

@@a.sween-parris5275 I didn't find Mr. Nelson to be arrogant. I think he had a tough case and tried to find any way he could to cause reasonable doubt in one juror. That was his duty and that's what he did despite the fact that the prosecution had a fantastic case. And, the fatigue wore on him near the end as he was the ONLY litigator for the defense. I think he did a good job for what he had to work with.

[@a.sween-parris5275]

@@pridenprejudice2004 I hear you... point taken

[@Yo_Chino]

“Did you say resting comfortably?!?!!” Favorite line in the trial lol

[@Postulatedstate]

It stood out to me too lol

[@frnatb]

Truth! 🤔

[@nvd2ceb4]

The moment when Mr. Schleicher was close to saying a few swear words.

[@limabima77]

It was definitely a highlight! lol

[@rouxinolcaneco]

Yes, that one was unbelievable....

[@emm8357]

I just applied to law school because of these two men. They were masterful, especially on cross examination.

[@F1no1fan]

Good luck, great to have such a standard of lawyering to inspire you 😊

[@Melgizelle]

You go girl ❤️ good luck to you!

[@eazyduzit2464]

Amen sister good luck

[@emm8357]

@@eazyduzit2464 thank you 🙏

[@oliviaturner7388]

As in, seriously! They were phenomenal!

[@shepherdmasara7936]

These men are Wonderful. Closing statement by Steve. "Dont believe nonsense "that was powerful 👏. And Jerry Blackwell questioning the medical experts oh my God. I love these two men. God bless you.

[@joguns8257]

Totally hilarious the way God used him to humble Fowler, the Forensic Pathologist😂😂😂. Made him look like a fool and unlearned

[@teresawicks9859]

I LOVE AND APPRECIATE THEM BOTH!!

[@Postulatedstate]

He rocked it. He made a fool of that white Australian dude that lied out of his ass for the defense. Made him squirm lmao

[@wynetteabc]

@@joguns8257 Fowler was foul.

[@easyabc1404]

@@Postulatedstate Fowler was not Australian but South African. Apart it's two countries from the british empire, plenty of miles between them...

[@annetteounga4299]

I like their humility and teamwork

[@masotapi]

Both Mr Blackwell and Mr Schleicher served justice well. Their wider team, both in court and behind the scenes were amazing as well. Such cohesion and effective strategy! It’s a beautiful thing when the law defends justice.

[@connie.22]

And they each were fluent in the expert testimony given. They made sure we understood (and the jury) each and every word of the expert testimony!!

[@Missymimim]

Exactly 💯💯💯💯💯

[@NagoyaHouseHead]

Steve Schleicher's cross of the defense's use of force expert was pure destruction, a true thing of beauty.

[@truqueeniam1831]

Exactly- a professional indeed/ with manners& decent character 👈🏾

[@nvd2ceb4]

I agree. I can't remember that creepy white haired witness's name but I bet after Schleicher's brutality, I wonder if that guy still have a job. I already read somewhere that a sheriff has distanced himself from that guy.

[@tamlynn786]

Pure brilliance! He’s skilled in his craft.

[@princess.ope2211]

Mr Blackwell did one also, can't remember his name but I remember Mr Blackwell asked him if anyone told "him they turned the car on or off"

[@nvd2ceb4]

@@princess.ope2211 That was Mr. Schleicher.

[@jerrysmith8899]

Those two prosecutors did an outstanding job in proving their case against Chauvin. He had a chance to do the right thing and get off of George Floyd's neck and he chose to be the judge and jury. He should never be allowed get out of prison.

[@monabee5044]

I have the highest level of respect for these two men. What a dynamic duo. Two highly skilled attorneys from totally different backgrounds with two important goals...accountability & justice. Watching them deliver both was emotional for me and Im forever grateful. May God forever bless them and the entire team.

[@queenemonihughey537]

Mr. Blackwell is a SUPERSTAR LAWYER!.....💚💙💜💛❤

[@karendegenerous600]

And Steve Schleicher is not???? There was still quite a bit of racism seen - those who saw the video over and over again and still blamed George for his own death - just because he's black, it's nothing to be proud of at all.

[@plesshettehill5302]

Yes he is...he ate defense up!

[@DOLsenior]

@@karendegenerous600 So Karen, I'm just wondering what it is about the op that caused you to write that comment? The op didn't say ANYTHING good, bad or indifferent about Atty Schleicher. It was a compliment to Blackwell. The ommission of Schleicher in the comment didn't connote ANYTHING about him. Are you, perhaps, exposing your own implicit bias?

[@DOLsenior]

@L B 😄😁👍

[@mryuazengisa4025]

Yes very true 🙏🙏

[@LM-to5qb]

Mr Schleicher and Mr Blackwell were awesome on top of their game, built for this moment. I love them, Mr Schleicher in the closing arguments brilliant.

[@strongman914]

They were trash. Emotions ruled the day and the prosecution failed to prove Chauvin had anything to do with Floyd’s sudden cardiac event. If you thought they were brilliant you must have missed most of the trial

[@wilmamelendez466]

@@strongman914 before u assume try to breathe thru a straw then tell me it was a cardiac event.

[@mrshankly213]

@@strongman914 Right wing conspiracy nut probably, just ignore this guy folks he's the part of America that the rest of the world thinks is stupid and why we laugh at you.

[@ralex3697]

@@strongman914 Disagree

[@youngtripp5184]

@@strongman914 That’s your opinion they did a phenomenal job and they did prove everything they needed to prove and the jury found your little Shoven guilty and he’s never walking the streets again

[@daughteroftheking3174]

Mr. Blackwells rebuttals were superb. How he came back with his follow ups so quickly, idk but they we’re definitely awesome! Awesome awesome awesome!

[@karenl1180]

They were so calm, no drama just facts and videos. No show boating. No insulting the defense attorney. Just good solid facts

[@holyspirit2501]

And not one word of it from Mr.Chauvin.🌝

[@ralex3697]

@@holyspirit2501 I didn’t do it that is an imposter, could be his only defence He is where he belongs. Hope he has a wonderful life in his new home

[@thisizrenegade]

Solid team... I never had a doubt that this team would get the results we got. Mr Blackwell had such charisma and insight to his lines of questioning.

[@Curlyloxau]

Wonderful Attorney's

[@holyspirit2501]

If there were no doubts,why all the looting and distruction?

[@thisizrenegade]

@@holyspirit2501 I can only speak for myself man... I wasn't out there doing any of that.

[@t1p3n3family2]

@Deplorable ya don't know what jury intimidation is until you go to North Korea.

[@rosestewart1606]

@Deplorable maybe by the police...if at all. The public doesn't know the jurors' names or even what they look like. The police were allowed in the court room and would be able to figure out who they were and where they lived. But despite all of that, they still convicted a police officer.

[@Kiya-me]

I love Jerry Blackwell's voice and calm demeanor.

[@XSweetxcheeksX1]

Wow these Attorneys are the real heroes! God bless them! They did an amazing job!

[@NursesToRiches]

Mr Blackwell was the real OG in this trial. He is able to command the stage and tell a story that deeply draws you into everything he has to say.

[@river8760]

He is pretty awesome.

[@CarlosMendes-cn2hc]

He messed up a little bit when he was cross examining the defense expert doctor, but he recovered and put the nail in the coffin in the closing arguments.

[@Almentoe]

Yeah, he really managed to calm down my inner cynic on some of the details. I managed to quash some of the doubt I had with a: "C'mon man, you saw it happen in broad daylight. You can believe your common sense."

[@vuvulicious41]

They both were for me. I keeping going to view Mr Schleichers take down of Barry Brodds (the defense use of force expert). Their closing arguments were👏👏👏

[@JohnjOcampo]

@@CarlosMendes-cn2hc huh? Lol He absolutely picked him apart, i dont understand how you came to that conclusion.

[@river8760]

You both did an absolutely amazing job under very stressful circumstances. I absolutely adore Mr. Blackwell’s voice.

[@weenett]

@Deplorable are you gonna write on every comment jury intimidation? Maybe the jury saw what the public all saw a brutal animal who continued to kneel on someones neck for over 3 minutes after he had no pulse! Only acceptable verdict imo!

[@nvd2ceb4]

I also think that Dr. Tobin should get kudos as well. To me, his testimony nailed the coffin shut for Chauvin. I don't know where this would've went if he didn't testify.

[@Nita23181]

@Deplorable I'm so sick of seeing your posts saying "jury intimidation". NO INTIMIDATION AT ALL!! The Jury heard all the witnesses, saw all the video's & other evidence & that's why they came back with a guilty verdict on all 3 counts against Chauvin. Deal with it!

[@river8760]

@@nvd2ceb4 definitely. Dr .Tobin is amazing.

[@josephinenilsson1541]

These guys are such heroes. Also doing it pro Bono: wow! ❤️❤️❤️ Blackwell was insane with the crossings of the witnesses. The way he picked Fowler apart was just so brilliant I think I’ll go back and rewatch it some day just for the beauty of it. And with Schleicher I agree with what others said: such a nice and sweet smile and then the toughness hit just out of nowhere 😂 I am also so impressed with Ellison and his devotion and his take on the motive and his compassion and kind heart, being able to say that he felt bad for Chauvin. What an amazing balance of perspectives within that man. And I’m impressed with judge Cahill: so collected and focused on doing his job the entire trial. He doesn’t get to be the hero like these guys, he’s the one doing the touch but so important job of safeguarding the system, and he did it flawlessly. I really feel for him the enormous pressure he must be under for sentencing now. Also on a personal note, when I watch Blackwell and Schleicher it makes me sad to not know them personally. Like they seem to be such intelligent, compassionate, sharp-minded and thoughtful people, and think how wonderful it would be to get to have dinner with them and just talk to them. It really shines through what great people they are ❤️

[@SC-uq2jf]

I wish these two stellar attorneys would go and prosecute the 5 police officers and EMT who murdered Elijah McClain in Aurora, Colorado next.

[@aledomer6805]

Exactly what she☝️ said‼

[@jenisejackson5408]

@@SC-uq2jf. Yes!!! Also, I need the Federal Government to re-open case on Tamir Rice and Philando Castile.

[@briannadouglas23]

Love these two strong men calm spirits 💕

[@a.sween-parris5275]

Yes, so calm

[@mss4346]

Steve Schleicher ist so eloquent and gets always to the right point.

[@indigodolphin687]

So is Blackwell.

[@thisizrenegade]

Together they all made a great team. these are Avengers level attorney's.

[@Postulatedstate]

Yes you can tell he really cares about justice

[@Postulatedstate]

Conviction from empathy.

[@mercibeaucoup2486]

Complete Opposite to Nelson

[@indiadonnachie588]

Thank you to KARE 11 who have provided great coverage throughout the whole trial! Mr Schleicher and Mr Blackwell are very talented as individuals and together. A moment from Mr Blackwell that I won't forget: "Aren't those questions like asking, 'Mrs Lincoln, if we take John Wilkes Booth out of this-". I wonder if we'll see more of them together in the future. Amazing job from the whole prosecution team. All the best from the UK!

[@debrasmith4675]

These men did their job well! I pray that we all do our jobs with such dedication.

[@mariavenegas9225]

Amén!!!

[@tpog1]

This prosecution was a masterpiece.

[@natashalall3553]

it sure was... it will go down in history no doubt... I know for myself I felt some closure being able to watch... the humility, grace and intelligence of these 2 gentlemen along with the many many others who, as Steve Schleicher says all came together, every single witness, every single member of the prosecution team.... it was simply an honour to watch and such an antidote to the horror of Mr Floyds death (although of course nothing will ever wipe away what happened)

[@sherrydavis105]

They did a great job

[@jenniferdavis2110]

The both are incredible lawyers ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ THANK YOU SIRS!!!! ❤ from NY

[@aa697]

I actually thought they worked for the state. That goes to show you how dedicated they are as professionals and devoted to justice. Incredible people 👏.

[@rosemarymcgrory5678]

Every prosecutor defends the state but they can work independently and earn lots of money , as they should job well done 👍🏻

[@rosehiggins6510]

Yes incredible work!! 👍🏽

[@despitecovid283]

Wait. Who do they work for then?

[@stephw.6539]

I think it is amazing, and speaks to personal convictions, that not only did the lawyers and several of the Prosecutions' experts donate their time in service of justice, they did a spectacular job! They really put in the work, not caring that they did not make a cent, and they presented thorough evidence to back up their findings. I was surprised the defense witnesses were paid as much as they were, Mr. Blackwell and Mr. Schlueser were able to pick apart their theories pretty quick. Those men did a great job for Mr. Floyd!

[@despitecovid283]

@@stephw.6539 wow. I did not know that they volunteered to do this work!

[@GQ-ii5bd]

Damn, 9 hours and 29 minutes. What a humble and graceful way to show respect. 🙏🏽🙏🏽. They knew at that point.

[@sonrisaverdean757]

They understood the assignment lol

[@jhughes5285]

That gave me "the chills" Excellent!!!

[@Desminique09]

Very neat!!!! See we didn’t know that!

[@mdavis5071]

My first hearing that... I bet they were already to offer an they came up w waiting the same time of the video.

[@mariasheppard83]

This prosecution did a awesome job, kind and compassion while being firm. Job well done and justice was served

[@smarterthanyou2255]

They simply appealed to emotion first and then used logic afterward.

[@tamlynn786]

Defense attorney Nelson contemplated putting Chauvin on the stand but after he saw how Steve Schleicher picked apart and dismantled his ‘expert’ witness...he wanted none of that!! Lol

[@rebawilson3879]

Eric Nelson didn't stand a chance with this Prosecution Team!!!

[@DJ-nk4dq]

@@rebawilson3879 one person against a "team" - it usually ends well for the team. Remembef OJ trial. One prosecutor against the "dream team" defense - and the killer walked!

[@rebawilson3879]

@@DJ-nk4dq That doesn't matter! The Prosecution Team came with their A game❤ The defense team need to prove one dout....Didn't happen! Awesome job Prosecution.❤❤

[@DJ-nk4dq]

@@rebawilson3879 become literate!

[@r.j.8736]

@@DJ-nk4dq he wasn’t the only lawyer working on the case. There were 12 other lawyers working with chauvin and Nelson, Nelson was just the one who actually spoke in court.

[@maureenfungafat4780]

I get goosebumps listening to these two brilliant , talented lawyers who gave of freely. Of their time to do this trial

[@charlottelovato5770]

Same here I watched the entire trial and, I was just impressed with how great they handed this case. Thank you both for a job well done.

[@mariavenegas9225]

@Ems Life it was not the mob what convinced the jury for the result of guilty. It was all the videos they had to watch every time. One step at a time for them to see the violence, arrogance and prepotency of Mr Chauvin. Just because he was wearing a police uniform he thought he was entitled to act violent with no body questioning him

[@delmerritt6509]

How about having a BLM guy in the jury??

[@LadyBugsmilezzz]

I was so impressed by Mr. Blackwell.

[@davidnyami]

Me too. Such a charismatic individual

[@rubelaw1817]

Me to.. the go to guy in the clutch!!!

[@mameeocean6194]

I'll never forget these two faces and voices. Their heroic work was so impressive. I envision one day Floyd will shake their hand and they will hear the words, "Well done, they good and faithful servant!"

[@Deadchat-dk6tj]

they won’t even see him because george floyd will be in hell while these people will be in heaven or………….

[@mameeocean6194]

@Kev Burrows in the Christian faith, if we truly repent and accept Christ’s way in our heart, we are forgiven..he made changes in his life from those years ago and moved to MN in an effort to further better himself. The death of his mother, loss of job, and Covid affected him negatively in terms of drug use, but he was not a violent person...(and the lady was not pregnant)

[@mameeocean6194]

@Kev Burrows that was many years ago..we have Christ and his forgiveness, and on earth moving forward I’d hope others wouldn’t eternally condemn me for mistakes I made 10 years ago and served time for. As for Chauvin, I believe that for him also if he does find a place in his heart to accept love and forgiveness. His soul still has a chance. No one knows for sure, the true state of his heart. Just going off the video, one could assume a couple different things..1. That he’s supremacist and/or had mindset of you don’t comply you die and because I’ve gotten away with my ways many times before, I will continue to no matter what OR 2. He’s just high on his own power and had the mindset of I’m in charge, and no one is going to tell me or intimidate me into backing down. I think and hope it’s #2 in his case..that he was literally too drunk on power to clearly think about the permanency of what he was doing because he was too busy thinking about his ego, his tough image and showing his dominance with the new officers My opinion is his chances for salvation are better if it’s #2

[@mameeocean6194]

@Kev Burrows you asked, I answered

[@mercibeaucoup2486]

We the people of the beautiful city of Minneapolis thank you both 🙌🏻 🙌🏻

[@mariavenegas9225]

I loved the work of attorney's Steve Schleicher. He has a beautiful face, very humble and caring person ❤ ♥

[@SweetestNya]

They’re both really handsome 🥰🥰😂

[@tracksuitJohn]

Fitting that this is a top comment. The types of people who were biased towards the prosecution are the same kinds of people who are emotionally driven, judge people based on their looks. The kinds of people who look at race or gender identity in order to decide who they trust or believe.

[@mariavenegas9225]

@@tracksuitJohn lol!!! Didn't meant it that way!! 😂😂 with all respect beauty has nothing to do with his intelligence! I listened the trial in full. Day by day, and couldn't believe that still are some people doubting the results of this trial. Brutally is not acceptable, not matter what skin color we have. I'm from California and also Hispanic. I have had one bad experience with a police when I waved him for help with my car. And the police was also Hispanic. I had to put him on his place and a nice Caucasian sheriff came over to me to protect me. Is not about the looks, is about the integrity of the person

[@gistfilm]

Integrity? Moral people? Beautiful souls, etc.? You people must be joking. Lawyers are liars, it's a useful stereotype. Jerry Blackwell seems like a genuine enough guy, but this might have been more of a career move for Steve Schleicher. It's conceivable that the prosecution secretly have their doubts about whether Chauvin is truly guilty. Floyd was saying "I can't breathe" before he was on the ground, when he was sitting in the car. The coroner said Chauvin died of a heart attack, not asphyxiation. The likely cause of death was a stress-induced heart attack that was exacerbated by Floyd's fear of police, being suddenly awoken in his vehicle by police with guns, his poor arterial health, and an overdose of highly-deadly fentanyl. The coroner further noted that if he didn't know Floyd encountered police, he would have concluded the cause of death was heart attack by drug overdose. Restraining Floyd on the ground for 1 minute or even 0 seconds was probably enough to kill the panicked Floyd...forget the 9 minutes and 29 seconds. Simply the emotional and physical stress of resisting arrest was likely enough. Again, reasonable doubt is the standard for justice here. I would argue that the police are perhaps guilty of having literally "scared Floyd to death," but does that constitute 2nd or 3rd degree murder? Not according to Minnesota's own legal definition. Which is why the Attorney General hired these two guys to manipulate the emotions of the jury into mentally ignoring the jury instructions (the real law) and voting "guilty on all counts." Minnesota couldn't afford the public image of another BLM riot. Chauvin is reminiscent of the "fall guy" trope. The attorney general is like the "brains of the operation," Schleicher is like the "doer" and Blackwell is like the "performer," a la 'Chauvin has a small heart.' Perhaps some people are more predisposed to seeing the facts of life without infusing emotion. It's called science. If we start to discriminate between people by the size of their "heart" i.e. soul, then it's clear science has exited the courtroom.

[@goldengilmaky6788]

The A team every court needs. I just hope they can pass down the skills to the next generation. Congrats.

[@sallysmith9899]

Every courts needs for when the police are in the wrong

[@mkodyChallengesYOu]

I love when a plan comes 2gother Cigar in mouth while closing argeument

[@Desminique09]

Yes!!

[@casanova07scrr]

These attorneys are very fine professional man. They are stoic, serious, straightforward. God bless them both.

[@yvonnedrysdale2468]

Hello, God bless great Attorneys. I appreciate them by the millions.

[@veezienhamoruhwande99]

That cross exam to Barry Brodd was a bomb when Steve Schleicher asked him, "DID YOU SAY RESTING COMFORTABLY??" 😀😀😀😀😁😁😁😁😀😀😀😀

[@umerajhussain8941]

He asked Barry Brodd that question, not Dr Fowler. But yes I agree it will go down in history that moment.

[@veezienhamoruhwande99]

@@umerajhussain8941 it was Barry Brodd you are right...

[@ParapluieDefenestrator]

i will never forget these two men. Or any of the other members of the prosecution. Thank you.

[@TM-wk4qu]

I already forgot the names of all of the prosecutors as there were 10 attorneys for the State...

[@amaliaromero6142]

The closing argument that Steve did was one of the best I’ve ever seen he’s amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@goodone8041]

They are both Great Lawyers. We love you both very much for your true service to Justice.

[@sheronhunt5192]

If i could hug both these men!!!! God bless them in all they do!.

[@wolke1955]

Me too 😊

[@mslisakayedwards]

And me! 🤗

[@kimberlyjohnson4997]

Double Trouble, their TEAM WORK ended up convicting chauvin!!! Hugs for a lifetime!!!

[@kimberlyjohnson4997]

Ems Life Chauvin is facing charges for doing a teenager the same way he did GF. The only difference he held his knee for a longer period, hitting him in the head 2 times causing lacerations and the teenager didn't DIE!!! MORE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT HIS VIOLENT BEHAVIOR!!!

[@kimberlyjohnson4997]

@Ems Life the kid had youth on his side and didn't have 2 others with chauvin restraining him.

[@carolhowell1492]

And I enjoy mr Schleicher when he was asking the witnesses questions in a polite way and that smile that he had on his face, and in a compassionate way,and mr Blackwell was also excellent great job guys, we love you both.

[@oliviaturner7388]

Mr. Schliecter with the smile, came for them, systematically through seemingly mundane fact finding, which constructed a fool proof case, that made the defense witnesses seem stupid, and drew out powerful testimony from the state’s witnesses. Jerry Blackwell, humble, self effacing, respectful, seeming very harmless, was so thorough, and squeezed every tiny bit of information, and clinched it all with a beautiful bow. He was the clincher. Scleicter got the story, Jerry clinched the deal. They were all awesome! Glad Blackwell closed. The jury instructions by Schleicter was phenomenal, took away the mystery of “reasonable doubt!” Then Nelson came and introduced confusion, but Blackwell cleaned it all up, forcefully. It was a risky but powerful decision to have Dr. Tobin there on the final day. The way the team handled the case should be required viewing for law students! Magnificent!

[@devotedtravelers]

Yes agree

[@shamina1908]

They did an amazing job. Thank you all for your hard work!

[@panthro213]

These guys are rock stars. Well done!

[@lorithompson7047]

I have so much respect for these two men 🤍

[@mariesesay594]

Same here 🙌

[@sheronhunt5192]

Yes i also

[@stickgalsick5064]

Watching this I just keep saying in my head "George, people stood up for you. You were worth standing up for. You Mattered" I wish with all my being he was just sitting in that empty chair RIP George Perry Floyd x

[@MISNM0]

💛

[@eriknichols4148]

RIP armed robber, rest in peace. ✌

[@reneetuer3525]

Absolutely! The videos were haunting and he will remembered!

[@reneetuer3525]

@@eriknichols4148 what?

[@eriknichols4148]

@@reneetuer3525 Floyd was a convicted armed robber who kicks his way into homes and holds up pregnant women. Poor angel will be missed.

[@carolinegallegos_]

Jerry Blackwell has never done a criminal case before?! I am floored. I thought he was the best attorney out of some really top notch attorneys. Mr. Blackwell if you read this you should really consider going in the criminal law direction.

[@optoms1178]

This execution of the trial by these lawyers was phenomenal and must be shown in law school

[@DOLsenior]

The entire process was very educational. The defense, the prosecution and the judge...just amazing. I even found the jury selection very enlightening.

[@stevea2488]

How do show the part about the media influencing the jury

[@DOLsenior]

@@stevea2488 If you go back an listen to jury selection you will understand that the jurors were thoroughly vetted. Not everyone is influenced by media/social media. There are those of us who can listen to the facts presented in court and come to a conclusion based solely on those facts. Not everyone is a sensationalist.

[@stevea2488]

Dream on!!

[@FabDiva350]

Optoms, I absolutely agree. I was thinking the whole time this was text book Trial Advocacy.

[@najefwaseem3416]

Salute to these gentlemen, their team and their devotion to get the justice. Just want to say love you guys.

[@obellinfantie]

These men are heroes and need to prosecute similar cases going forward. This would result in more convictions and would probably be the single biggest catalyst for change in US policing.

[@41mum]

@Deplorable 9.29

[@wilmamelendez466]

@Deplorable police abuse!

[@JohnjOcampo]

@Deplorable you fakes will reach for anything, patheic.

[@41mum]

@Deplorable Do you have eyes

[@mrshankly213]

@Deplorable Stupid criminal policeman made bad error by kneeling on someones neck for 9 minutes. The jury were probably sold on guilty just by looking at the video without any witnesses. 99.9% of humanity probs thought Chauvin guilty, just the 0.1% without a brain or a soul thought Chauvin did nothing wrong.

[@jeanneeber]

I watched the trial multiple days mostly the prosecutions side & you did one hell of a job! Congratulations. You worked wonderfully together! You deserve this countries respect & admiration for a job well done! Pro-Bono is huge +! I felt your compassion for this family in my soul & I learned a great deal! Watching your love your practice was clearly evident! Thank you for doing such a great job & ridding this country of this individual. It was a flawless trial because you made sure your case was airtight & ethically done.I'm a Neonatal ICU RN & oxygenation is a human infants first breath is vital & I was highly aware of his oxygen deprivation & very conscious of it & the timing!. The first time I watched that video I clearly remember thinking "OK, let him get up now……let him get up………Gosh Damnit man LET HIM UP! LET HIM GET UP!! GET YOUR KNEE OFF HIS GOSH DAMN NECK! I knew he was dead! I've never witnessed such a callous disregard for a human life than that video! It's genuinely heartbreaking!

[@EtsyMetsy]

I also watched but remain concerned about something. I studied physics and when I analysed Chauvin's body position and force vectors I come to a very different conclusion Dr Tobin. Basically, I don't see the force on Floyd's back as described by Dr Tobin. I am also dubious that Chauvin had half his weight on Floyd's neck because it's easy to shift one's weight from one knee to the other without it being noticeable. I'm no doctor and wanted to know if Floyd could have died by being in the prone position alone? I also noticed that Floyd was still breathing for some time after the leg reflexes which indicate brain death. Is this possible? These are genuine questions to satisfy my own curiosity.

[@tweetybird7657]

Then you research that to satisfy your questions.

[@sharongilbert6036]

As long as I live I will never forget seeing the life leave his body, absolutely heartbreaking

[@mjinba07]

Many, many thanks to these two men and the whole team. Thanks for running a clean, competent, thorough case. It helped a great many of us understand what happened to Mr. Floyd and how it came about. Police violence is a terrible blight and it undermines confidence in our safety and our government. The prosecution did something towards restoring that, as well as shining a brighter light on the need for police reform. I don't know what I would have done if the prosecution had been fumbled and Chauvin had gone free, I think I would have completely lost heart.

[@aishamccraw7699]

Wonderful men.Well done.

[@christianvictoria2019]

Schleicher would've eaten Derek alive during cross-examination😭😭The verdict would've been guilty x3, whether or not he testified..

[@joananthony6323]

Yes and it would have been good to see at least a bit of his past record brought in. He couldn't risk that.

[@Sheila612Miller]

It was guilty x3

[@mariavenegas9225]

Definitely!!!! Hope this is a lección for those bad apples in the police department 🤔🤔

[@archieharris7849]

i know he would’ve too .

[@luvthetruth4ever136]

I'm disappointed though. I so would have love to see and listen to Chauvin on the stand. I was hoping to see how Steve Schleicher and Jerry Blackwell would have crush him to bits. Soooo disappointed, as there was a game plan.

[@betsyspencer6680]

These attorneys are so impressive, as were the other prosecutors. I watched the whole trial and thought they were some of the very best I have ever seen in the many trials I've watched. My reaction to the video was exactly as they hoped the jury's would be when viewing it several times; it was heart-rending with each viewing. My prayers were answered about the verdict and I'm so grateful these astute men were the prosecutors.

[@charlottelovato5770]

I have to agree with you 💯 These two men worked very well together. I watched the whole trial and, I have to say, I was impressed on how well they handled this case. They did not get any money out of this trial. Great job to you both, Thank you for a job well done.. 👏👍

[@carollarremore6419]

You guys are the best, the best team. Im in love with you both. God will truly bless you both. Blessings

[@gaban69]

You guys rock Thank you so much For Your Humanity for Speaking For George Floyd RIP.

[@Koloviv48i]

To help the victim's family to have some sort of closure from this tragedy and to actually offer their services for free is phenomenal. Kudos to Jerry and Steve. Also Matthew and Ms Eldridge as well.

[@t3angling575]

You only speak of the victims family, meaning Floyd. Yet where is your cry for Floyds victims throughout his career of committing criminal acts of violence and drugs? Oh yea lets celebrate and honor the criminal, and punish law enforcenent and their families... yea real smart....

[@shawnresch]

The prosecution had a solid case. Blackwell is my favorite, but the entire team for the state was great!

[@selfloveisthebestlove5244]

Great team

[@optoms1178]

They were amazing

[@dlg78]

They had absolutely nothing, and ignored most of the stuff in the bodycam footage. Their whole claim was just saying 'we don't believe a lethal dose of drugs would kill him', even though he had just been in hospital 2 months earlier on a lesser amount of drugs.

[@shawnresch]

@@dlg78 Not sure what you watched, but it wasn’t what I saw! Clearly, you know nothing about drugs either.

[@videobrownsville]

@@dlg78 thank God you are not a lawyer.

[@gc854]

You guys are definitely the "Dream Team", you guys killed it! Justice has been serviced!!!!!!!!

[@juliecorona9744]

❤️Good job Guys, you guys were great in court 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👏👏❤️we appreciate you all!!🙏

[@DippedNChocolate]

My 2 favorites on the Team. Job well Done Guys

[@kb9847]

So, I will say, let's give Chauvin the benefit of the doubt. Sweeping faith that he did nothing wrong in his presentation of his body on Mr. Floyd. Just for argument's sake. What convinced me, beyond a reasonable doubt was when the other officer told Chauvin that he didn't feel a pulse. Now Chauvin knows, he's been told, there are now procedures that need to be put into practice. It is at that point he should have started CPR, but what does he do? He says, "Huh". I can't believe this wasn't talked about more. I just can't shake that he said that. He was told, by a fellow officer and he did nothing.

[@natashalall3553]

and before that he was told Mr Floyd was going unconscious - I mean in what world would u stay on someone's neck pinning them down when they are unconscious! I sure would not feel safe if police officers were behaving like that around where I live!!!! that would NEVER happen not even to a drug dealer global cartel leader!

[@Nita23181]

Because Chauvin simply didn't care, plain & simple. When he has his knee on Floyd's neck, Floyd stops talking, stops breathing & the cop still has his knee on his neck, IMO, the cop doesn't care. He knew what he was doing. The 1 cop checked for a pulse & told Chauvin, Floyd didn't have a pulse. Chauvin STILL kept his knee on Floyd's neck. The ambulance came & 1 EMT had to tap Chauvin so he could check Floyd's neck for a pulse, Chauvin continued to stay on Floyd. The EMT's brought the gurney over to put Floyd's lifeless body on it. The 1 EMT had to put his hand on Chauvin a couple times before he finally got off Floyd. Chauvin just didn't care 1 bit.

[@kb9847]

@@natashalall3553 exactly

[@kb9847]

@@Nita23181 yup exactly!! How very sad. I hope he gets locked up for the maximum possible.

[@mslisakayedwards]

He doesn’t have a conscience. This is a sign of a sociopath. They try to blend in with society, but they truly cannot do it. The sociopath does not make choices with EMPATHY. They murder, lie, steal, beat women& children & even pets. They must be locked away. A certain percentage of people on earth are sociopaths. The research Shows they are drawn to occupations of power where they can harm others & get away with it.

[@raineyj560]

So true about the experts breaking down the video, u truly saw something different & yea I remember that day of constant body cam, it was intense 😔

[@TheXmeimei]

Good job, gentlement！

[@rebekahwilson166]

No ego, no sensationalism, sound legal arguments. Two men who are great at their jobs simply doing their jobs for the right reasons.

[@soulovelee_2433]

One thing I have to say, the whole prosecution team, the judge and even the defense attorney seemed to be very likable

[@tonka9573]

I totally agree with you

[@chriswayneevans]

They were very watchable, and yeah even the defense attorney would be good to have on side.

[@1nhonho]

@@chriswayneevans I gotta say I didn't care for the defense attorney. He seemed douchey to me.

[@GomerBarnFloyd]

That's because they're Minnesotans!

[@Rhythmicons]

The defense attorney seemed inept, overburdened, and in over his head with medical terminology and a defendant whose actions were really indefensible.

[@fruitsaladsandmore8822]

You made headlines in every country a job well done💯💯 I guess it will be a movie comming next

[@tinkywinkysatonawall]

These two gentlemen went above and beyond to earn their rightful place in the history books. Thank you for fighting for justice and accountability. Simply superb job!

[@GGS645]

Can you imagine if these two brilliant lawyers wrote a book regarding this case. It would be epic!!!!

[@shanicebajin4067]

Jerry, Steve, Erin and Mat - thankyou for your incredible work! You were all brilliant.

[@Flywithdean]

These two need the Presidential medal of freedom - Fantastic lawyers.

[@rogerwinters9856]

I pray to God that Ahmaud Arbery case has lawyers like these two men on hand.

[@Angie-in6hf]

A job excellently done. It doesn't bring george back but it's so good to see some actual justice. I thought these guys fought brilliantly for the family and the community.

[@barbaramcdaniel463]

When Jerry said, "derek chauvins heart was too small"........hit the nail on the head. So true, it made my heart reel...

[@sabrina.natalie]

I truly don’t think people grasp how powerful and legendary this is. This trial is monumental and significant. I’ve watched every second of it, since day one. I’m 26. When the agonizing and horrific beating of Rodney King occurred, resulting in the LA Riots, I wasn’t born yet. I was too young to remember the OJ Simpson trial. But with this particular trial - I’m old enough to remember every detail, be invested, and remain engaged. This is my first “big case”, for lack of a better term. This is the first time I’ve followed a trial so closely. This will definitely be a part of history, and this will be something that will be discussed as our children and grandchildren grow up. The prosecution did a phenomenal job, and I’m so proud of them. Their sacrifices, effort, sleepless nights, time spent away from their children and families, and diligent preparation, did not go unnoticed.

[@NewYorkCity1718]

When Steve said in the closing argument “you ever seen that commercial when they say I know a thing or two, well dr baker knows a thing or two about his line of work” I couldn’t help but laugh lol

[@mjinba07]

Equal respect to the brave people on the sidewalk that day who saw what was happening, stayed, tried to intervene, and recorded what happened. And then testified. If not for them, Mr. Floyd's death would probably have never come to accounts. It could be that, for the rest of their lives, they might carry the burden of having watched that man die. Terrible price to pay but one that served a much greater good.

[@karenl1180]

I think if I'd be on that sidewalk I would have had to been screaming and begging for the cops to stop. I probably would have been arrested.

[@Curlyloxau]

Agree, they witnessed such a heartless murderous act, thank you for trying your best to be there for Mr Floyd xox

[@karendegenerous600]

Absolutely!

[@natashalall3553]

totally, I wish I could tell them how much they've done... on that day and in court... it's so sad that some of them feel responsible in some way which of course they are not.... they did everything anyone could have done and did it fearlessly

[@heborweihcraxilef5996]

These two prosecutors are bomb.

[@KL-of1oi]

They both did a Great Job May God Bless Them for bringing George Floyd and His Family JUSTICE

[@conniekeshet]

💜 thank you the dream team 🧡 brilliant teamwork 💛 excellence in each part 💚 humanity 💙 ag ellison, jerry steve and...., ag hennipen county, the brave witnesses, the expert witnesses, all those that helped.. each a wonderful human being 💜

[@shawnresch]

I watched the trial from jury selection all the way through. I knew with confidence that the jury would return with guilty on all charges. I actually felt bad for Nelson trying to win a case when there just wasn’t one.

[@reggien4165]

Appeal incoming. Who wants their home burned for saying not guilty?! Why risk it when you have to drive through the mob to get home? Cause that's what it look like from my propestive.

[@reggien4165]

@DeplorableMaxine waters should absolutely be ashamed and even punished for what she did.

[@LM-to5qb]

@@reggien4165 even if Chauvin can appeal this one he will still be guilty on all three counts. Verdict 2.0

[@shawnresch]

The jury knew exactly what happened and returned the correct verdict. This case was open and shut, the only reason some people have a hard time with it is because Chauvin was a police officer. Police are not our judge, jury and executioner...they are supposed to protect and serve.

[@reggien4165]

@@shawnresch one juror came out already and claimed to be scared to pick wrong answer

[@sunnyvaleria889]

Congratulations. You were professional and brilliant. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@natheemalbertus7988]

These are the true lawyers in suits. Much respect for them and their profession.

[@tonyabrooks5107]

You all did a great job... Thank you

[@juliannavarro8400]

I have so much respect for Mr. Blackwell and Mr Schleicher, watching them interrogate the witnesses was amazing, always so polite and respectful while pressing for the best answers, I had never paid so much attention to a trial before but I definitely enjoyed watching the prosecution team as a whole, especially Mr. Schleicher.

[@tonyawhite5671]

My most favorite line in the whole trial was..WE MOVE TO REVOKE THE DEFENDANTS BAIL AND REMAND HIM INTO CUSTODY🚨🚨🚨 IMMEDIATELY!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@joannbonner8879]

They were brilliant and strategic. One giant step for mankind! Got the cold blooded murderer’ 👏🏽

[@nbgilbert]

Thank you for your professionalism and clear picture of what happened that day.

[@kylecole2002]

Jerry Blackwell is the human embodiment of swag.

[@annettepayne822]

Sound is bad. BUT .. Thank you for covering this so closely. I’ve watched every minute of the trial and sad to see it end. I am so pleased with everything. Rest In Peace George Floyd. These men did amazing

[@ssunny7172]

Love both Matt Frank and Steve Schleicher...both such down to earth guys and so very kind. I was privileged to work with the both them back in 90's and very early 2000's. Very proud of your win gents. Smart as whips you are! ♥ GR

[@Agent-tf3vo]

These two gentlemen did this job pro Bono and that says it all! They did it for justice not for monetary gain! 💕 Now these two are the genuine “Dream Team!” 😇

[@Jennifer-pw9ue]

Come on. They did it for $$$$$$

[@karenhunt1720]

@@Jennifer-pw9ue ~ so, are you insisting these 2 attorneys are lying? I bet you believe Derrick Chauvin was innocent! These 2 gentlemen should go into partnership!