Full Power Super Saiyan Explained

What is Mastered Super Saiyan? What is Super Saiyan Full Power? What is Super Saiyan Grade 4? Its all the SAME THING and on this edition, Super Saiyan Full Power Transformation Explained on the Transformation Guide. This is the form used during Goku vs Cell in Dragon Ball Z.
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[@KTH96]

The saiyans experimenting with their transformations in the Cell saga is so much more interesting than any transformation after. It's one of the few times we actually see the characters train towards an actual goal instead of merely just raising their battle power. And it's such an great expression of character with Vegeta showing his brute force mentality by just powering up further, Trunks' inexperience leading him to not realize the drawbacks to Grade 3, and Goku's martial arts genius allows him to bring out the full potential of the form through basic stamina management.

[@AndrewAce.]

Agreed. Especially with your point about characterization. Very insightful...

[@lemadoumbia2991]

You explained David really good.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

very true, every transformation after with the exception of super saiyan 2 was just way less interesting, I thought they would do something similarily interesting with SSB since they mentioned its good ki control when Goku used Kaioken with it but then they just never really expanded on it

[@tytusajtmankiewicz6818]

Exactly, one of the two reasons why I love the Cell arc. The other one is an absolute beast Gohan SSJ2.

[@regg58]

The genius of goku figuring out a way to completely master the super sayain transformation is underrated to me

[@preweeks7941]

Luis Guerrero now Gorky can’t even tell the difference between monaka and berrus dressed as monkaka

[@Prominexus]

@@preweeks7941 Imagine Goku knew Monaka wasn't the strongest and just messed with Beerus and the rest of the cast.

[@ClaimerofLoot6942]

@@luigi456o7 ikr. I feel like goku got dumber in super. He went from not the brightest to almost full on retarded.

[@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059]

Prominexus a part of me wishes he just revealed that he was messing with them at the end of the episode

[@aa-pw7cw]

Well, when you’re in a dimension with no distractions, and a sole purpose of just trying to beat cell/train Gohan to beat cell, you’re gonna find out a bit.

[@thatonedude2159]

Super Saiyan without the big mad.

[@blackbroly]

Lol frfr

[@spambamkeija634]

Pretty much

[@Ray-nh5fk]

This was already explained before Guys like damm

[@speedogoku3696]

EXACTLY.

[@rahulsar2030]

Back then in Z I think there was more lore to SS. Stages of SS really showed how SS can be upgraded beyond. We hardly see this after Buu saga. I bet SS blue evolution is only change of hair color without any lore.

[@jacobfletcher3922]

The filler where Gohan is spending time with that girl is one of my favorite moments from the anime. It shows how effortless it is for him to be in that powered up state so well

[@alexl.4362]

What girl

[@priyafulewar1933]

@@alexl.4362 Videl

[@sdm47]

@@priyafulewar1933 Nope Videl didn’t appear until the buu arc The comment above is referring to a filler only character called Lime

[@hao2000ki]

Yeah every time I rewatch dbz, I skip most of the fillers but when it comes to the cell saga, I make sure to rewatch that episode as well. Even remember the exact episode number (ep 170) after all these years

[@drecyrius]

So we all just gonna ignore the fact that toei trolled us on goku day?????

[@ashisnotok8101]

Like the other person says yep.

[@ARod3]

How?

[@ashisnotok8101]

@@ARod3 1# it could be how EVERYBODY got notifications from geekdom and other KZbinrs that it was getting comfirm by Toei by last week of April to May 16th that super was coming back which was early to tell so it won't really be surprised by now , so I'm not surprised toei did so we can lose faith, 2# something might have happen that we do not know to hold back the announcement ,3# they are going to do it on the trailer date which suppose to be at the end of the month 4# they might comfirm it on Sunday since I believe that's when episode 110 will be show to the English dub viewers or 5# we all have been conned.

[@rocknroller7034]

I really feel like TOEI is doing this on purpose to discredit geekdom.. He really pissed them off...

[@mechajay3358]

You act like this is the first time they did.

[@Lonk_The_Stronk]

Watching DBZ Kai and the Cell Games are about to begin. What timing!

[@thechugdude]

Super Saiyan full power may be my favorite form.

[@jigokulamb]

I was expecting Super Saiyan 2 after this but Legendary Super Saiyan, count me in!

[@jollygoodfellow3957]

About the "mastering SSJ would raise his level more" interview: The context is that "mastering" means "training" or "continuing to train." As in, an on-going process of training over time. Training in base and SSJ would allow Goku to raise his overall power more because those forms allow for better training gains over time. If you trained in SSJ2, or SSJ3, you might lose stamina before you got a good workout, or perhaps the workout would be too easy, and thus not get much gains from it.

[@craigpeoples9883]

@Martin RamirezNot unless you have a sparring partner

[@NativS2002]

Honestly, SSJ2 COULD be mastered like SSJ, thus allowing for faster gains as well.

[@Mikerille]

I mean it’s stated that grade 4 increases power more than grade 1, 2, and three

[@jonathonlaw6837]

Yeah. Train in base. It increases your power level. Then rest and transform. Then train in the form to get accustomed to the new increase. The increase in base is much bigger when transformed after all. Multipliers! Am I right lol

[@neosonic199]

Mastered Super Saiyan is a good name for the form (I mean it's really a honed version of Super Saiyan). I believed Future Trunks used this form when he went back in his time to kill the Future Androids and Cell.

[@craigpeoples9883]

That was an epic and satisfying moment 👌

[@alexandrastaniforth2216]

It's really true

[@shlimey04]

That was a boss moment 😎

[@brownwindedangel]

This has always been my favorite form. And my head canon has always been that despite the different grades that Goku only figured this out because of the heart virus fiasco. Goku trained for three years and only started to have problems later on a little bit before the fight with the androids. It was straight up said that the strain of super Saiyan was what made his heart virus worsen so quickly. I think that after nearly dying from being over strained and realizing the amped grades would just be more of the same that Goku decided to master super Saiyan until his body acclimated to the heightened state so this couldn't happen again.

[@ken948]

Wow i never realized that

[@user-gn1mo3ew9k]

my favorite too!!

[@KingDray]

Uh... Goku's hair looked almost white in the Namek Saga at certain points, too. It just looked that way when the aura wasn't flared up, so it's not a grade 4 thing. But still, great video.

[@qlasalle]

Fun fact SSJ was originally intended to be white before his colorist colored it yellow Tbh idk if this is a true fact

[@beanieboi7743]

@@qlasalle i think he always intended it to be gold but since it wad black and white he yellow is white in black in white coloring. Another cool thing is during the namek fight on the limited color pallete chapter the hair was just left white

[@yadig.]

Did that one detail really bother you that much?

[@jeffpauljunior2163]

Yeah this guy swears he know everything lol

[@jarrongordon7034]

In super sayian the hair is blonde

[@entityvalak4233]

It's like how itachi has he's eyes always activated so basically he was training he's own eyes to get stronger they are all very smart after all

[@KombatW0mbat]

I mean he is becoming more blind when he does it

[@ockertoustesizem1234]

@@KombatW0mbat he went blind only because of mangekyou Sharingan use

[@dayoldeggplant]

his* not he's

[@johnstephanos1128]

Vegeta said it best when he observed Goku and Gohan come out the hyperbolic time chamber! "They look like Super Saiyans, but I don't feel there energy! It's like... it's their natural state! Goku was able to master the super saiyan transformation by remaining transformed for long periods of time! His aura has a smooth like flow appearance as compared to the other forms were the aura is spewing out ki energy. He's able to maintain the mastered form subconsciously! The key to this state is energy conservation and not boosted energy output. Goku is able to fight longer and more efficiently than with the Ascende stages of Super Saiyan, and can even remain transformed for days without running out of energy. This is the true saiyan form!

[@amosmaka6030]

The cool thing I liked and noticed was when Goku was exhausted after his fight with Cell, he remained in Super Saiyan. Whereas before, in that situation, he would have reverted back into his *ACTUAL* Base Form if he was to fight in Super Saiyan... So when you said that Goku's Full Powered Super Saiyan Form was like his Base Form, you weren't kidding.

[@mastertucker]

Glad someone said it finally, so I hope this stuff is covered in the SSJ2 video. That's what SSJ2 is. Toriyama said that 2 and 3 were just extensions of SSJ1 - ways to stretch out the power. SSJ2 is basically a trick, making the body feel like it's in base form, so the same anger pain of loss trigger moment will cause the same rush of S-Cells and transformation, because the body feels like it's in it's base state. It's tricking the body to go SSJ while it's already in SSJ. And if you think about it that's why the guidebooks say it's 2x the user's SSJ1 power because it's literally doubling SSJ and forcefully/temporarily surpassing the body's natural limits. That's also why Toriyama said in that interview that SSJ2 as well as 3 still burns ki, it's the drawback to 2 for forcing beyond their max potential. And that interview is still not wrong by the way, like you said we've seen SSJ2 and 3 in Super, but the only time Goku goes 2 is when he's testing an opponent and purposely being weak, such as against Black where it was stated directly he was doing this. The only times he goes 3 at all is when he's showing off to Trunks for fun, and when he does it in the ToP but even there he admitted he didn't mean to and he immediately leaves the form. So Goku still doesn't use 3 seriously at all and he only uses 2 when he's playing around. In a serious fight it still holds true that Goku stuck to his base and SSJ forms until he got to the equally natural and not wasteful SSJG and Blue. Also please don't tell me you're gonna try and make a separate video about 'Legendary' from one about 'Berserk'? They're the same form and old Broly's isn't special you should just cover Kale and real Broly's 'Legendary/Berserk' one and mention old Broly as a side note.

[@CalvinClimax]

Please do a 5/9/19 explained video

[@Marc_0v0]

What is that date for?

[@darrylreedy5079]

@@Marc_0v0 We all speculated that Toei would confirm the return of Super.

[@alexcoupe.]

9th May is Goku Day in Japan

[@Marc_0v0]

Darryl Reedy oh ok yeah i remember

[@3rdwavemedia906]

My birthday was then and I didn’t know it I guess Goku is my chosen anime character as I did start anime with dragon ball.

[@KaboomKrusader]

It should be pointed out that despite once being called "Grade 4," the mastered Super Saiyan doesn't actually grant more power or have a higher "multiplier" than Grade 2 or 3. It grants the same standard 50x boost as regular, un-mastered Super Saiyan. It's just that the zero-waste nature of the mastered version makes it a lot more effective in battle, AND the ability to stay in the form indefinitely provides a substantial boon to your training gains. So in the end, Goku and Gohan got so much stronger not because their "Grade 4" was giving them more power than Grade 2 or 3. But because through SS mastery and training, their base forms and overall power increased so much that they leapfrogged past Trunks and Vegeta even though they were sticking to a "weaker" transformation.

[@Mothlover69]

Kaboom Krusader I'm not going to bother with your headcanon

[@spambamkeija634]

@@Mothlover69 Not headcannon. Nothing in the manga suggests that there's a higher multiplier with Grade 4. With less straining, it permits the user to exert more energy in training, thus making their training much more efficient, which in turn permits their progression in strength to be much higher much more rapid than someone using Grade 1. And again, nothing in the Manga suggests Grade 4 has a higher multiplier than Grade 1. Grade 4 is just grade 1 without all the downsides, allowing the user(s) to bring out its full innate potential. Edit: You may try to debate if you want, lol. I can't wait till you bring up the insane amount of guides which have tendencies of contradicting themselves.

[@Mothlover69]

Gohan With Down Syndrome no multipliers are stated in the manga for any transformation, the numbers come from guide books from toei.

[@Mothlover69]

Gohan With Down Syndrome so try tell me where they specify in the manga that super saiyan has a 50x multiplier

[@Mothlover69]

Gohan With Down Syndrome or that Frieza at his final form had a power level of 120 million.

[@levirocha2976]

He mastered ssj, no ki drawback and anger needed, Goku is a genius

[@michaeli5018]

After watching this I've come to realize that (at least in Gohans case since at the time super saiyan became his base form ) super saiyan 2 could be considered a super saiyan going super saiyan. But what do I know I'm just here for the video.

[@Max_Rex]

Their hair is "white" colored because they don't have the energy aura around them. It turns "gold-ish" colored when they display their auras. I think it's stylistic at first because on Namek, you see goku with both white-ish yellow and gold with and without his charging aura. I think the coloring rules for the forms got established later on after the Freiza saga. Just look and you'll see that the general rule for coloring after the Frieza saga for super saiyans is charging aura on: goldish hair and pale skin, no aura: regular tone skin with white-ish yellow hair.

[@trashcandatnoobwut2246]

It's a shame we don't get to see more variation in the various Saiyan forms. Seeing subtle differences in each Saiyans' mastery of their transformations would give the series some much needed extra depth to work with.

[@criscabrera9098]

I think the main reason is cause you could barely tell them apart so for example grade 2,3, and 4 the only main difference is muscle for grade 2-3 and 4 was the perfect ssj1 form until you get to ssj2 or grade 5 but I think if they did that for ssj2 or ssj3 people wouldn’t of liked but I would of always wanted goku to completely master ssj3

[@sugarbro880]

It means that they are able to use the grade forms to fullest potential without drawbacks. Also points out that ssj2 cant be achived without mastering the first ssj level

[@Supreme0757]

I think if Goku was shown meditating along with physical training when mastering forms that would be cool. Surely practicing maintaining a centered mind would help master a form faster than just pushing your body alone. Hell, look at Frieza after only meditating...imagine the massive results for doing both. Jiren is the embodiment of that.

[@zurus7856]

Facts bro

[@gregcrockett1852]

Love it man. Been watching since the 90s, but you always give me new info. Good stuff homie✊

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

Dragon Ball Super 2??? Geekdom i was so hyped about the announcement man...what is happening?

[@jct876]

He never said it was for sure happening, it was a theory dude

[@mgm7321]

Final Redemption He clearly said he doesn’t know for sure so stop hating. There is still all month for a trailer or teaser

[@shoto7948]

@@mgm7321 hating on what

[@champgreen9985]

VASTOLORD KING not my money

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

MachineGunMike I don’t think anybody is hating. We were just so hyped when he confirmed that Super is coming back in July. Stop saying whatever you want man.

[@anthonygarland8839]

I never knew of super saiyan grade 4 till know a friend of mine mentioned a couple of weeks ago I though it was just SSJ1 but he said the hair is an lighter color but now I just realized there is SSJ grade 4 and really can't wait to see about LSSJ form next I dont know much about it but hopefully it cover the questions I got in mind and these videos I'm actually learning a lot stuff about these forms I didn't even know

[@lapplandkun9273]

lol how did you not know about them? They were the hallmark of the android and cell saga until ssj2 arrived.

[@SteveCrafts2k]

@@MarioSonicBee Mastered SSJ isn't a power boost. The "power boost" is a result of the negatives of SSJ being removed. Because Goku and Gohan spend an entire year (and 9 days) in their Super Saiyan forms, they negated the negative side effects of the form, allowing them to control their ki.

[@shadowfruit8232]

Geekdom after your done with the super saiyan transformations can you do like different types of androids, namekians, etc.

[@Misterkennedy04]

Namekians don’t have transformations

[@michaelscottfuku]

Nice vid geekdom. I’m loving this new series, keep it up bro.

[@isaacthelastn7687]

These are really cool videos bro. Keep up the great work!

[@superskullmaster]

Been waiting for this. Thanks.

[@marrcohh4634]

Great video man, can’t wait for the Broly vid 💯

[@TheRabbitRonin]

It's late, but happy Goku day everyone!

[@riiddisbuk2496]

Nice work, Geekdom :D Keep it up 😊

[@Gwolf888]

Another amazing episode thanks geekdom101

[@penisnt]

What was the ‘big announcement’ for Goku Day yesterday? DBS’s return wasn’t announced? Did anything happen?

[@adarus9941]

Leon Gjata He never said it was a fact that it was gonna be announced yesterday.

[@penisnt]

Wolf No I know that but it was likely, but even then I’ve heard nothing come out about the announcement.

[@penisnt]

strong nature But we knew that was coming out for months now. Or do you mean he was actually released yesterday? In which case...why just him? Everyone else in all the other DLCs have come in pairs.

[@LuisOrtiz-fr7fi]

@@VORTEX203114 😒

[@LuisOrtiz-fr7fi]

@@VORTEX203114 lol ok

[@ThomasFrasier]

I like this series a lot. Keep me coming man 👌

[@omegaink5635]

Nice video man

[@saitamablackgoku2889]

Was waiting on this video

[@Ouroboros1990]

Dbz fan for life just putting it out there lol btw love the vids geekdom..

[@treekwilliams3053]

Glad you made this

[@nicknick200]

Hi Geekdom, thank u for this great channel, and I got that ki joke

[@mechajay3358]

I like to call Full Power Super Saiyan, the _Chill Form_ cause it so calm and cool 😎

[@julius4826]

Great explication for the new db people! Subbed

[@JoeyRColon]

I look forward to these videos ❤️

[@essentialchair8294]

This was peak dragon ball back in the day. Transformations but they mastered it with martial art principles.

[@theamazinggamerdjmc5906]

can't wait to see next video

[@theanimechef8691]

Great video again

[@johnrhogan2908]

I'm digging this guide of yours, Geekdom. Will you be including Super Saiyan 4, or leave that out as it's not part of official continuity?

[@waveynutterbutter9860]

*dont let this distract you from the fact that something is coming on May 9th*

[@k5elevencinc0]

Next year?

[@jamesroberts5163]

What's happen may 9

[@Claude225]

Let's give him the weekend

[@christiancinnabars1402]

I can’t wait. It’s only (-1) day away!

[@vsauce_johnny2516]

Ahh May 9th has come and gone for me

[@christiancinnabars1402]

5:05 Funny how you say that, because that’s exactly what Shallot is doing in Dragon Ball Legends to reach SSJ2.

[@bakersaba6968]

I miss the old days when the transformations felt real and hard to achieve unlike super !

[@andylua4118]

Love your content

[@PNGgecko]

Aye Geekdom, whatever happened to that May 9th announcement for super or am I missing something?

[@shoto7948]

Any update

[@jct876]

It was just a prediction, he never said it was for sure

[@anthonyargueta131]

he said that it's a prediction dude

[@jct876]

@@larsrodriguez9404 only one delusional is you shit face. Geekdom NEVER once said it was for sure getting announced. Stop being a piece if shit and re-watch his video about it WITHOUT turning your selective hearing on

[@caydenmarlowedefusco6798]

This is very good video

[@zayjay26]

Could watch these all day

[@grungyperry7530]

God I love your content 🤘

[@user-gn1mo3ew9k]

this will always be my favorite form of super saiyan, it's so chill they even activate it in civilian life

[@mariojuric2871]

Next video idea: Why are there so many unknown lifeforms on Earth in DB/DBZ and DBS?? We've seen dragons, dogs, cats, and other animals walking around the street and talking like normal humans in West city and other cities.

[@MrMisterGaming]

I feel like you have explained this a lot. But considering how many people subscribe to you daily, i understand the need to reupload.

[@bigbrainanime9485]

Honestly kind of hyped for Legendary Super Saiyan explanation

[@MrTyler189]

These are my favorite videos

[@dylaneastling5072]

Great video bro! MAAAN I wish I could've followed u on KZbin growing up while watching DBZ! Always got confused when I was younger on this stuff so thank u for doing more videos on this stuff!

[@bradforte8804]

Geekdom, have you or anyone else ever noticed, also, that when Goku and Gohan are "relaxed" as FPSSJ, their clothing is shaded in darker like when they're in base form? You can see in the first fight sequence between Goku and Cell, his gi is solid dark orange, but when he powers up, its shaded with the brighter orange tones that are always there when he's a Super Saiyan.

[@kjt7971]

Should have said, "We are going Dragon Balls Deep into Super Saiajin Transformations!".... LOL

[@supersaiyanfox9190]

In regards to the hair looking almost white, I don't think that really has to do with the form because I've seen Goku as a normal SSJ against Frieza, and sometimes his hair would be almost white. The hair officially becomes gold when the user powers up.

[@redlightning7625]

Yeah. It's the aura glow that makes it look golden

[@real_kicks1]

Can we get ssj2 transformation guide after legendary ssj? Great vid like always!

[@KaiCyreus]

One of the most interesting forms、I love the idea of staying in that form naturally

[@flipzzilla4556]

Mistarefusion is covering this in his Dragon Ball Dissection vids

[@CdotPoppy]

We just went dragon balls deep into that.. grade 4! 20yrs later still learning!

[@warwick802]

Geekdom, please make a video on your thoughts on the news we got Yesterday on Goku Day.

[@MichaelGarcia-gl2tj]

Ooooh LSSJ is next can't wait!!!

[@byucknahthered3914]

Soooooo what happened to the expected big "Goku Day" reveal that everyone was speculating on? Been awfully quiet on all fronts, reddit, twitter, youtube, ect. for how much it was hyped up.

[@elpopman2055]

Geekdom101 Vegeta and Future Trunks discarded SS Grade 2 in The Cell Games.. Implying That Were Trying To make Progress in Mastering The SS Form. The fact that they were able Hold their Own against the Cell juniors in the Manga Shows Something. In the anime Trumks and Vegeta used SS Grade 2 against cell juniors

[@dbrazell4]

Ya the anime shouldn’t have done that. Vegeta made it clear that he understood what Goku did. He just tries to hard and that’s why it took a bit longer for him and Trunks to use Grade 4. Grade 4 is grade 1 but way better balance. They can still power up into Grades 2 and 3, but those would zap so much energy that it would be redundant. It’s like trying to race someone in a mile and sprinting the first 400 meters as fast as you can. Not only are you gonna be tired after the first 400, you won’t be able to match the first 400 meter time again. Your time would get slower each go around. Grade 4 = Marathon Grade 1 = 100 Meter Sprint

[@neosonic199]

I agree Trunks and Vegeta did use the Grade 2 form (Cell Games, the two movies: Broly the LSSJ, and Bojack Unbound). I think the reason they took to the Grade 2 form was most likely for the extra power.

[@elpopman2055]

@@neosonic199 that and it was becuase it not canon. Vegeta and trunks in manga did not need grade 2 to fight cell juniors

[@neosonic199]

I know, I was just using the movies to support my claim.

[@justjake8095]

Hey Geekdom, what video editor do you use to edit your videos?

[@ikesimerson3382]

It took me a while to come to this conclusion, but I wonder if Goku and Vegeta in the Manga learned to Perfect SSB faster due to their training to use Full Power Super Saiyan.

[@The_Black_Falchion]

We have to understand that this was retconned with the DBS Broly movie. Full Power Super Saiyan is a Broly Exclusive form, meaning that “Grade 4” doesn’t actually exist anymore. All it is is the full maximization of the Super Saiyan form. All of its power up front, sort of like how Kaioken works in base. Takes all of your latent power and pushes it to the front.

[@diddly-squat9332]

About this form I liked that Trunks and Goten achieved this form while they where training to control their Ki in order to master the Metamor Fusion Dance.

[@myusername3689]

I have an explanation that is just a theory. Grade 4 super saiyan has 2 states: Mastered, and full power. Mastered super saiyan has the exact same multiplier as grade 1 super saiyan. The difference is that there is no stamina drain or body strain. This leads into full power super saiyan. Because mastered super saiyan has no drain, this means a mastered super saiyan can unleash more super saiyan power, 10x more, which means full power super saiyan is not 50x stronger than base, it’s 500x. Super saiyan 2 is 2x full power super saiyan(unless rage boost like Gohan), and super saiyan 3 is 8x full power super saiyan(once again, rage boosts change that).

[@nietak9260]

Hello geekdom i am a new fan of yours and i have the bell turned on to be notified cause i like your vids ☺️

[@songoku9348]

I’m going to assume he uses grade 4 from this point on when transforming into SSJ1.

[@SolosferaRPG]

My favorite "sub" transformation. The ideia is absolutely great! In Super Toyo uses a "variation" of it in ssj blue vs Gattai Zamasu, when Goku put all the power inside the body. I always wonder if the saiyajins do the same with ssj2 ans ssj3 to achieve the full potencial in any transformation. (Yeah, i know that ssj3 is very instable... is only a dream to see a ssj3 full dominated)

[@mrlakiro5526]

I really appreciate Mastered Super Saiyan, such a state was interesting to me when I thought it literally had no weaknesses :D

[@PaulSmith-uz6hq]

Would love for Toei or Toriyama to gives us FANS what we've been craving? the entire story on Planet sadala/yamosi and the civil war, it would make an excellent arc just before Vegeta and Goku visit the Saiyan homeworld in UNIVERSE 6. or give us an filler on Frieza homeworld.

[@bigbrainanime9485]

Anyone who thinks DBZ is nothing more than cheap transformations and shouting matches, should watch these videos. They not only explain the nuances in the elements of the show, but it would give them a better I idea of how the show is really like, and why people love and feel the need to get in to it and make videos like these.

[@UnifiedEntity]

If they need to watch videos like this to understand then they are already lost. Was clearly explained in the show.

[@bigbrainanime9485]

@@UnifiedEntity I really meant those who haven't actually watched the show and just have ignorant opinions about it, but that's true too.

[@kingblazee2511]

This makes a lot of sense. I’ve notice a couple of games like in buu fury, supersonic warriors 2, fighterz and I think extreme butoden that doesn’t show goku in ssj2, and later on in the series I don’t notice goku going into ssj2 and towards the end of battle of the gods movie, Andddd GT P.s I love the transformation intro.

[@stve1908]

I still predict Dragon ball super for july 7th, if that is still the month its suppose to come back but if not maybe late august/early september

[@Aplesedjr]

VASTOLORD KING you think it won’t come back? After the massive success it was?

[@shoto7948]

@@Aplesedjr it took jojo part 5 a year to be announced

[@Ray-nh5fk]

Guys just wait toie to say something y'all need Dragon ball That bad

[@Ray-nh5fk]

@@Aplesedjr super was trash as hell so much asspulls And plotshelding the rightwing was garbage Successful shit u mean shitty

[@lamontjenkins6611]

@@shoto7948 exactly

[@hggs4466]

I hate how this form was forgotten about after the cell saga, the idea of grades should have been expanded upon to super Saiyan 2 maybe a mastered super Saiyan 2 (super Saiyan 2 grade 4)

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

A couple of things I want to bring up. In both the anime and manga you could tell the difference in their eyes which are round compared to the sharp triangle like look as well as their facial expression being happier. Final thing is doesn't trunks eventually achieve this form too when he fights the future androids again? It might be harder to notice in the anime but it the manga it seems that way with the aura also being an indicator Edit: looking back I think Vegeta in the manga also has the form when they fight the cell juniors along with trunks because of the similarities they show when fighting like goku and gohan in the form.

[@darrylreedy5079]

So is Super still coming back in July?

[@andrewbarragan3756]

I think super Saiyan was such a bad ass form back in dbz and when he finally mastered/perfected super saiyan it was so confusing to me at first but now that u have explained it Goku is a genius when it comes to controlling his power

[@cesarbarragan5855]

They trolled us saying something was coming and we got nothing lol!!!

[@adarus9941]

Cesar Barragan Deleted your whole thread at the top huh? How pathetic of you after calling me a bafoon, I guess you were wrong after all.

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

I hope Geekdom wasn’t the one trolling us...

[@TheMrGiannisgr]

you don't want this fade I still hope that’s not the case and he waits on the announcement.

[@jessaphillips2846]

Does anyone else notice the similarities between super Saiyan grade 4 and super Saiyan blue? In both cases you have to get your ki up without letting it out. When a Saiyan goes to grade 3 they release a ton of energy just maintaining the form, but they don’t let their stamina drop in grade 4.

[@Xelamorph67]

Where's the announcement Geekdom?

[@adarus9941]

Xelamorph67 He never said it was a fact.

[@Xelamorph67]

@@adarus9941 C o p e

[@adarus9941]

Xelamorph67 ??? What?

[@83jbbentley]

On May 12 two years from now on an island twelve west of South City two androids will appear.

[@energeticfanboy2586]

Can you make a video about how Super Saiyan hair works? Because there is one of my favourite topics and I would like to see a video about it.

[@C41N4]

Vegeta had the same color hair when he fought cell in his grade 2 form. The light hair is when they don't have an aura around them.

[@renaldoking6]

And this is why Goku is a pure Genius fighter when it comes to skills combat and transformations.

[@Chorgy]

Other times SSJ2 was utilized was in the Boujack movie. Also, another difference in appearance is that their hair gets just a little longer, and more of their bangs get pushed up.

[@streetguru9350]

Grade 4 might be a soft requirement for getting into SS2 easily, just random headcanon.

[@RellOkay]

Sounds legit tbh