Full Review | Coachmen CrossFit 22D | A 4-Season Class B Camper Van Built on the Ford Transit

[@Ultramobility]

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[@BrendaJones492]

Count me in . Love the information.

[@maccharlie]

Ultramobility Neal, I'm thankful for you! Love your sense of style and your notice of driver comfort and leg room!

[@Armenian]

Why are you asking for money? I dont get it. If you are doing this because you enjoy it then you should never beg for money from people. If this is your only job, then I understand. Either way I always question why people ask for money making videos.

[@Ultramobility]

Hi, Armenian. This is my only job. Advertising on KZbin doesn't pay anywhere near what people need to make in order to make a living.

[@jeepwranglerjk1]

I purchased one because of this video, taking delivery tomorrow. 2020 beyond (new name). Thanks you great

[@dlg5485]

I agree with your 'buy' recommendation. I think the Crossfit is the best overall B van available today, all things considered, even compared to much more expensive Sprinter based coaches. I'm a stickler for build quality and Coachmen seems to have got it right on the Crossfit. The price for that quality and features you get is industry best, in my opinion. Even after adding expensive options (Xantrex system, Ecoboost engine, insulation and wheel upgrades) you could still get into a Crossfit for less than $120k, which is outstanding for all you get. Throw in a Ford serviceable Quigley 4x4 conversion (for around $13k) and now you have a great 4-season, totally off grid, go anywhere coach for under $130k. That's still a lot of cash, but relative to all you're getting, it's a bargain...and is thousands less than any other comparable B van. My only major gripe is that Coachmen should order these Transits with the Ford Sync3 factory infotainment system, instead of putting in an aftermarket head unit that isn't properly integrated with the chassis.

[@hayesman76]

Kudos to Coachman for getting away from propane stoves! That induction stove looks great.

[@Ultramobility]

propane is your friend!

[@hayesman76]

@@Ultramobility I'm admittedly paranoid about fires and carbon monoxide poisoning.

[@tonytran8153]

Hi Neil, thanks for all the great reviews. They’re the best on KZbin. I’m happy to support $$ your channel.

[@jaykaydee5772]

I’m a Ford Motor retiree and a Transit is the only van chassis I would seriously consider at this time. Camper friendly improvements are coming for the 2020 model year i.e. all-wheel drive, load improvements, turbo diesel engine, 10 speed transmission, more driver safety gear, driver swivel seat addition etc. Thanks for a great review!!

[@Ultramobility]

fantastic information for you to share! thanks so much. I look forward to the safety features to bring it up to par with the Sprinter.

[@pattimessenger6214]

Thank you for this information!

[@faithrenewed3443]

With all that's available aftermarket I can see this unit becoming everything I could want. Thanks for your time and review.

[@sfsphynx3090]

What a gorgeous van, one the best ones i've seen so far.

[@MichaelRyan-yt4xm]

I would love to see where you store food and pans etc.

[@jesserevilla992]

Test Drove 2018 Ford & Mercedes; so impressed with the Fords feel and that of the dash displays.

[@kerryshrode]

an excellent review Neil, AND knocking it out of the park for Coachmen, WOW. even though I don't like duel wheels, this just became my NUMBER ONE choice for a coach. This is a great review Neil, you have become SO much better with these, thanks so much. I'm back on your list again you DID miss the amazing 12v AC. but overall a fantastic review.

[@Richnoonan1]

Another good reason to have a home on wheels! Stay safe my friend.

[@rono33]

Another very excellent concise yet comprehensive review. You do THE best reviews. Period. (I still hope you come across a midwest passage 144 to review for this class. It has quality to compete or exceed this high quality Crossfit build. This Crossfit is great. But I really wish to stay under 20 feet and fit into a parking space. But this thing is so nice, I might 'sacrifice'. Thank you Neil you rock!

[@Ultramobility]

It's not too much longer than a promaster. shorter than the extended sprinter tho. trying to convince you to consider it!

[@cherieperez9256]

Love the driver seat room for sure. That is a big deal in the shorter vans. I don't like feeling claustrophobic on the road. I'm not a huge fan of my head at the back doors. Thanks for raising the exterior hook ups, we don't all have a much mobility. I'm not a fan of marine sinks, just seems like they would leak easily. I do love the dovetailing for the drawers, nice. Solid review. Thanks Neil.

[@sasstewart1222]

One of my favorites you've reviewed on your channel! (the beyond and ontour are great too)

[@Ultramobility]

Glad you like them!

[@Richnoonan1]

Neil, This standup is obviously back lit, get in front of a darker background and it will look better. The review is OUTSTANDING as usual. You are the best in the business Neil, keep it up brother.

[@Ultramobility]

interesting production note about this background - that's not fog! that's all smoke from the devastating Camp Fire that was over 100 miles away and shrouded the entire SF metropolitan area in smoke!

[@dansalas399]

Nice job Neil! The high quality cabinets, potential for all electric, well thought out layout with a potential for a future front seat lounge maybe a game changer for many on the fence. The Dooley tires, Truma features are great to have as well! Thank you for a job well done!

[@Ultramobility]

yep and the sumo spring upgrade as standard as well!

[@joannegoodman1388]

I need more attention to windows!! Extremely important to me. Thx Neil

[@dandoyle8908]

One area to point out is the option of the custom front and rear window covers: custom fit driver passenger window covers, windshield cover, and rear cargo door covers. Highly recommend opting for this option feature. Also the fact as standard the Crossfit comes with a 100 watt solar panel. My coach had the upgrade to two (2) 100 watt solar panels.

[@Ultramobility]

dan - are you a CrossFit owner?? What do you love about it? Why'd you choose it and what can you share with other interested buyers?

[@dandoyle8908]

Yes Neil we are a Crossfit 22C owner. After thorough research using UltraMobility's review of Class B vans, and viewing other dealer sales KZbin videos we opted to buy the Coachman Crossfit 22C from Guaranty RV in Junction City OR. We attended a local RV show Guaranty was showing the Crossfit in order to touch, feel, and drive the Coachman Crossfit. While we weren't there to buy we named the price we wanted to pay and made a deal at that RV show in Portland. John Monterusso of Coachman was at the RV show and I grilled him with questions and concerns. I wouldn't say we "love" the Crossfit but it was the best choice out there that was non-diesel. Honestly PleasureWay made a class B Transit based Transit gasoline model we probably would have seriously looked their way just because of their quality. We're just getting our feet wet in retirement RVing and didn't want to get anything much over 20' and was non-diesel. I have developed a PRO and CON list on our Crossfit 22C which I shared elsewhere in comments. Happy to share with anyone seriously considering purchase of a Coachman Crossfit. In consideration of the purchase of any RV you can't get 100% of what you want and need to compromise. And each year manufacturers come out with something you'd like to have offered at the time you purchased like we did. Email me @[e-mail] if interested in more

[@silvania1989]

This trailer is just perfect. Like someone else noted I wish the wet bath would be a little bigger, but oh well. I don’t think the one you review has it, but there is a Proair 12volt 20,000 BTU air-conditioner in the new Crossfits. Looks really promising. I really can’t find anything wrong with this Van!! Thanks for the review

[@solodad]

Tks again Neil, I agree with you (Buy It) and I am seriously looking for that unit, major reason is: 4 season, good quality construction, gas engine and a convenient floorplan, but that's for my needs, there is a unit for everyone down there. See you next time.

[@Ultramobility]

true what you say : there's an RV for everyone! the 4 season will be a lot more convenient in Quebec that's for sure. I do like what they're doing with rock-based r-15 insulation and phase change. good stuff.

[@spellmadam2947]

What a nice rig overall. Thanks for another great review. But after a year of ownership, you own as is. It's all yours.

[@Ultramobility]

thank you spell madam. sorry not following (too much turkey) what do you mean: "you own as is. it's all yours"?

[@spellmadam2947]

No more warranty

[@Ultramobility]

yep that's right. the appliances themselves have their own warranties some of which are longer than a year and of course the Ford Transit chassis warranty is longer. the xantrex warranty is also longer I believe. but coachmen needs to have a longer warranty for their build out piece.

[@bobgreen3745]

Your review was one of if not the best I have seen for this coach. Kudos to you! I agree on the warranty and what it does is make you think you need an extended warranty when buying a coach designated as used. Though gently, you just want to be protected. Though it looks like the coachman's parent company is Forest River.

[@Ultramobility]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Happy-uy5wc]

I prefer a diffrent floorplan. I like the floorplan of other RVs that have the Captain's chairs that turn to make a dining area. I think that saves alot of space and I don't like the bathroom up front, where the kitchen and dining area should be. I like the bathroom in the back near the master bedroom.

[@amandamcmurtrey1104]

Thank you for the detailed review! The Crossfit is definitely on our short list!

[@Ultramobility]

glad to hear it!

[@Sonnyboy346]

I would love to see you rank the various vans for quality on a one to ten scale. Thanks for all your hard work

[@Ultramobility]

i love this idea so much. i will do this video.

[@Sonnyboy346]

Great! Looking forward to it.

[@semdoug]

@@Ultramobility I like this idea as well, though I wonder how in a fair and equitable way. Would the vans be ranked against each other, against a prearranged standard of construction quality and materials, standard equipment, ranked within a price range, ranked in warranty period category, et cetera. I like the idea of categorizing by warranty with a consideration toward materials and construction quality. For example, what is the best (highest ranked) in construction class b with a one year warranty.

[@monnaprovost7294]

Steve D, yes I agree, do within warranty periods too.

[@donnanhuggler8451]

As usual, fully comprehensive, informative & concise.

[@starwoman3036]

EXCELLENT review! As you pointed out, you would most likely want to add a mattress topper. I just wish both the 22D & 22C layout had somewhere you could store it when not in use; or did I miss that? Also, for me being 5’1” the microwave placement is a pain in the....... Even so - with only those couple of gripes - when I am finally able to purchase, this will be my ride!!!!

[@shawnbranch9443]

Very good review Neil wow that van look very nice

[@hillbillyman52]

Excellent review Neil. You have changed my thinking about Coachmen which has been that the quality was just not up there with the likes of Winnebago. I believe now that the Crossfit is a viable option for me and my wife after I retire in a couple of years.I enjoy all of your reviews

[@Ultramobility]

hi larry. please do check one out yourself. you need to judge the quality for yourself. the quality is okay. it's not top notch but in my opinion it is higher than other coaches that offer warranties that are double this coach's warranty. i'll have to do a video where I rank the quality levels of coaches for comparison.

[@mishu3271]

Hi Neil 👋 this was a fabulous review of a coach I’ve never seen in real life. Felt like I was right there with you. I have to say the misinformation and marketing around “insulated” or “4 seasons” is a pet peeve and many products I have tested just fail. It’s long overdue for manufacturers to use A Roxul type product. I had never heard of the other insulation so will go snooping unless you have a good link to share. Also important is in which way they layered or positioned in the coach. My first park model trailer was gorgeous but had almost no insulation which made it prone to wide fluctuations in our climate. Not good. I traded that rig for a Northlander All Season that was was very good at tempering extremes - R- values were closer to then home building values. I recommend that model for anyone who wants a four season park model. Carry on!

[@Ultramobility]

mishu - I totally agree with you regarding manufacturers not being forthright and honest in general with their marketing. in particular around 4 season capabilities. I've been impressed with Nick Ricchio, the GM of Coachmen's knowledge about the issue and his willingness to both share with me what they're doing; what they've done; where they've failed and what they're doing about it. I speak with lots of coach manufacturers and they have been the only one who could clearly articulate what they mean by 4 season and where they're at in getting there. I hope this trend of honesty and innovation continues with Coachmen and if it does I see a bright future for them. if not...

[@Lex-Rex]

The Fit RV just posted a tour of Coachmen and their insulation process is the best I have seen. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoWWp4eapLB1n6M

[@84imreplica]

The only thing I would like added to this coach is a small front table for the passenger/driver.

[@Ultramobility]

yes I agree with that. even though the driver's seat can swivel it would have added a nice second place in the rig for someone to work.

[@cponsler122017]

Ron OBlack a flip out on the front of the bath room wall for a table at least for the driver would be great and the ability to drop one of the tables up front would be also. I would vote for a vent in the bathroom and flip up counter extensions too as simple adds that would really round this out. That said it’s one I am looking into and have a local dealer with these in Indy is a plus.

[@Ultramobility]

cponsler122017 the driver's seat doesn't swivel unfortunately...

[@dandoyle8908]

Our 2019 Crossfit 22C drivers seat doesn't swivel. The parking brake handle is in the way. Coachman indicated their looking into making the parking brake retractable into the floor in order to allow the drivers seat to swivel. Thats one issue I brought up with John Monterusso of Coachman a the fall RV show in Portland, Oregon.

[@scotttea2048]

Maybe retro fit an electric emergency brake to eliminate the existing handle and allow for the drivers seat to swivel also. Two cabin swivel seats is a must for me.

[@g.donaldbain6239]

Great review as usual, this van wasn't even on my radar and now it is my near-final choice. I had a good look at the Crossfit 22C Li3 at the RV show in Pleasanton last week. A few additions to the points in your review (sorry if they are in there and I missed them). CON: a table that plugs into the floor is not nearly as good as a Lagun mount rear window vents open sideways, thus not good in rain parking brake blocks drivers seat from rotating and is in the way for passing through the couch and ottomans are not as soft as the Pleasure Ways' PRO: it has a full-sized spare tire, increasingly rare on class B's also a hydraulic jack securely stored under the rear sofa a large grab bar at the entrance no step in the aisle on the "C" version

[@g.donaldbain6239]

One other PRO item -- the van I saw had an excellent bike rack factory-installed on the rear passenger-side door.

[@howesyourmac]

This was not on my radar either until I saw one in Pleasanton. I took the 22C out for a test drive last weekend and bought it. I could probably keep looking for another year for the perfect Class B, but I would rather get out on the road sooner rather than later!

[@MultiRabe]

If Roadtrek was still around, I say their SS Agile was better! But this Ford Transit Camper, is totally awesome to me! Great presentation sir 👍👌

[@richardc488]

Great review Neil, hope you had a lot of turkey!

[@Ultramobility]

hi richard - it was great. I spent it at my in-laws and my mother-in-law cooked up a feast. really wonderful. thanks for the thought.

[@crystaldwfan]

I probably not upgrade the Li3 feature to keep everything(the tanks) inside. Love all the insulation that they have. Really important to me as I'm looking for a 4 season class b van. Definitely gonna keep an eye out on this. Just wish they had a bigger bathroom (like 59g winnebago travato floorplan). As always great review!

[@Ultramobility]

we're getting you close and closer to a true 4 season doctorwhogeek!

[@crystaldwfan]

@@Ultramobility I know very exciting! Liked this also had a decent size fridge as well unlike the winnebago revel. Glad coachmen got something for people that live in the cold weather.

[@crystaldwfan]

@@Ultramobility Also, do you know if galleria 24 (the one that has front lounge) has water lines inside as well?

[@Ultramobility]

i believe the galleria has external water lines but with the polar plus package you can upgrade to those lines being wrapped in heat tape which then makes the coach 4 season as the polar plus package is rated to 27 degrees below freezing. i'll talk more about this in my galleria review.

[@crystaldwfan]

@@Ultramobility Looking forward to that review!

[@hdlowrider5413]

Neil, hands down you do the best HONEST Reviews. We just pulled the trigger on a Crossfit 22D EB. We did this in part due to your channel. You give all the info on the RVs you review and ultimately give us the ammo we need to pull the trigger. Thanks again. On another note, I would like to make a one time contribution and from time to time addl contributions to your channel. I don't have a PayPal account. Do you have a PO BOX or something of that nature that I could send a check to? Thanks again Neil 👍👏🏻.

[@Sushigrl1029]

Great review!! Shame about the lack of ventilation and short warranty. Everything else about it makes me want it, the induction cooktop is nice and like you said, all the upgrades. Wish it had a convection microwave. I also like the Hymer Activ. Wish I could find one that had everything lol

[@Ultramobility]

the ventilation doesn't bother me as much since there is a large fantastic fan just outside the bathroom and the doors leave room for ventilation. the 1 year warranty does bother me.

[@hayesman76]

LaFemmeLisa I totally agree, IMO all new RV’s should come stock with convection microwaves.

[@craigthomas8179]

Neil, thank you for this GREAT review. Coachmen definitely has upped its game.

[@Ultramobility]

Yep now they just need to UP their warranty to match.

[@thomasfranta7028]

I agree with your assertion of the IROK At the Hershey Show was the first time I looked at one and was very impressed not only with the fit and finish but also it’s overall appearance. The stealth look on the outside and the soft finishing materials on the walls and even the accents to the cab made it a strong consideration. My only concern is ProMaster vs Ford Transit. I’m reading that the quality of the Transit which is built here where the ProMaster is built in Mexico

[@garyofnyc]

:53. THE TRASIT CHANCY! Sounds like a fine British caravan. 😄

[@Ultramobility]

lol right mate!

[@garyofnyc]

@@Ultramobility I was cracking up. Your show is BRILLIANT! This van is the coolest by far of almost any Class B. Great work sir.

[@BobHorvath]

One cool thing that wasn’t mentioned is the ability to control most of what is on the multiplex wiring with an app on a phone or tablet.

[@Ultramobility]

i think you're going to need to upgrade to the power plus package that they announced that upgrades your inverter and gives you remote start plus firefly integration. without firefly integration i don't think you can access via mobile. in fact i'm not entirely certain that even with Firefly on the CrossFit that you get mobile access. it may only be access via the new color touch screens inside the unit. if i recall correctly only the Galleria has the necessary router to allow for mobile access. i could be mistaken tho….

[@BobHorvath]

Ultramobility look at about 4 minutes in of this video... kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYiYeYZ9gsaketU

[@Ultramobility]

I'm pretty sure they don't offer that on the current models. I believe the Fitrv was reviewing a prototype model which they say on their blog. I'll double check with Nick the GM but I'm fairly certain that he said that the CrossFit would not have mobile access with the Power Plus package with Firefly. that's reserved for the Galleria.

[@BobHorvath]

Ultramobility ah, that could be. I noticed the table storage was different which makes sense if it was a prototype.

[@Ultramobility]

yep also the electrical center that pops out of the kitchen counter isn't in production units and the mirror and shower soap dispenser placement are different in this unit.

[@bjgdal]

We are extremely happy with our CrossFit 22c so far. Of course we only have about four thousand miles on it but the fit and finish is excellent. It has extremely good driveability and thankfully our dealership has a stem to stern warranty, for a price of course. The chassis warranty is Ford's standard 3/36. There were a number of errors in this review however, the windows are hinged not sliders, Coachmen is owned by Forest River not Fleetwood, and the lithium battery package is available now not in 2019. Otherwise very good review. Much more detailed than most I have seen.

[@Ultramobility]

hi there and thank you so much for sharing your owners review of the crossfit! owner reviews are the most valuable. couple questions and comments: the rear lounge windows in the crossfit I reviewed slide open. they are not awning style windows. are yours different? yep I made a mistake and said Fleetwood and not forest river - good catch. the lithium battery package is only available today on order. that's directly from the GM's Nick Ricchio whom I interviewed extensively for this review. where are you seeing it available on current models? This would contradict what Coachmen is telling me. Per Coachmen the lithium Li3 system will only become available in January 2019 on models coming off the line however it was announced last month.

[@bjgdal]

@@Ultramobility yes I, and most of the folks on the CF Facebook page have hinged windows. Perhaps they have made a change in the most recent model. Also, there is at least one person who has taken delivery of the new white Li3 in the group. He posted pictures of it. Others in the group have said it's available now.

[@bjgdal]

I definitely prefer a slider window. Such is the nature of buying stuff like RVs and Computers! They always add better options the week after you buy!

[@freebirds6047]

What are your thoughts on back duel tires and rocks getting stuck between. Comments on awning angle (see prev comment from Rick)? Also, is there any storage space behind couch?

[@bjgdal]

@@freebirds6047 prior to owning this CF I had a 29 foot Class C with dual tires. I never had any difficulty with stones getting in between them. But admittedly I never did any serious off-road type travel. I'm not quite sure I understand your concern with the awning from my perspective it is mounted appropriately and functions fine. There is a small difficulty with these when they are new as they stick in the housing the first few times you try to open them and you tend to need to pound on the end of it to unstick it. But that has been a minor issue.

[@dandoyle8908]

Glad to finally see your review of the Crossfit although after much research on my own I've already purchased the "C" model. One comment you make about engine upgrade to a higher hp and torque option. You say upgrade is a 3.7 liter but actually it;s a 3.5 twin turbo that's the upgrade not a 3.7 turbo as you state in your review. The 3.5 twin turbo is the same engine the F-150 uses and is well worth the upgrade especially if a potential buyer is consider towing. Another thing I noticed was while the "D" version has the step up to the bedroom the "C" with the sofa bed doesn't have a step up.

[@Ultramobility]

hi dan. good points. that's the second mistake I didn't catch! I review these videos like 4-5 times for accuracy but that one slipped by. good find. Love the C layout as well. can't wait to hear what you think as an owner!

[@rono33]

Good point Dan. I love this coach, but one small nit pick for me, I can't stand the step up. Great find that the C model doesn't have it. Thanks for pointing out!! (Excellent review Neil as always) @@Ultramobility

[@freebirds6047]

Dan - do you like your Crossfit? Despite step-up, I'm leaning towards D model as you can get a little extra storage under bed from back (pseudo garage). Hoping they have some at the Palm Beach show in February. We were at Hershey, but must have missed the Crossfit!

[@dandoyle8908]

I have a list of pros and cons on the Crossfit. I can email you the Pro/Con list. This was our first RV purchase and I wanted the compactibility of the Transit 22'2" in the Crossfit. I didn't like the seating configuration of the "D" model and went with the C model because of the power sofa which is way more comfortable for seating than the bench seats. For me I want to recline while seated and you can't do that with the D model. Yes, you give up the storage and hauling versatility with the C model with the sofa bed versus the D. I like our Crossfit but I can't say I love it. To early to tell since we haven't really used it except for an over night here and there.

[@freebirds6047]

@@dandoyle8908 Makes sense Dan. Would love your list if you'd share please ~ [e-mail]

[@hayesman76]

Excellent video and really nice camper van. I wish there were lots more Class B’s based on the Ford Transit. The prestige of a MB Sprinter-based unit for me is far, far outweighed by 1. the cost of repairs; 2. the cost of replacement parts; and 3. the hassle of finding certified MB mechanics. I totally agree with you, this vehicle DEMANDS a 3-year warranty! My only issue is that the wet bath is just TOO cramped. You’re a slim guy and it looked uncomfortably tight even for you.

[@Ultramobility]

i hear you on the mb chassis but i've owned two and the cost of ownership isn't too bad if you don't take it to mercedes for repair but to a certified third party. that's what i do.

[@Desperado3248]

A few shortcomings. No window or fan in bathroom, will always smell wet and grow mold. No standard inverter, come on. Bare bones entertainment system. Still a good value compared to Mercedes based units, and not diesel powered. Seals a hole in the market with the death of the Hymer Class b. A longer warranty would make purchasers have more confidence in the product.

[@VarosVapor]

Hi Neil another excellent review. I do believe that Coachmen is part of Forest River and not Fleetwood. I love the Transit chassis with 3.5 eco boost for the power and ease of service. It was odd that they don’t offer AGS with the under hood generator on the Li3 option.

[@Ultramobility]

you're right! amazing that I reviewed this video at least 4 times and didn't catch that. I think they eliminate the gas generator when you upgrade and put in a second alternator.

[@lass-inangeles7564]

Your reviews are always excellent, Neil. Thank you. Its amusing that for years RV makers used fiberglass insulation which does not work in RVs, until the DIYers came along and used mineral rock batting, denim, sheeps wool, spray foam, polyiso foam, and thinsulate. Now the commercial foks are catching up. What took them so long? The cost is the same for mineral rock and the pink fiberglass stuff. Just slow to change. Phase Change Insulation - not entirely plant based if the sacs are made from plastic, eh? Also, the assertiion that it cools 20 degrees less than conventional, can this be verified? Were independent tests done on this or is this an inflated claim from RV maker? Looks like Phase Change Insuation is a bigger version of Reflectix, minus the coconut oil.

[@blackknightruffneck3205]

Thank you I just watched you review my next class b for 2019

[@kathleenreyes4345]

Another GREAT review Neil! I recently saw a video by Coachman where they’ve come out with a new Class B that is replacing the CrossFit and it’s called the Beyond. Have you heard this?

[@spellmadam2947]

it's just a name change. The crossfit exercise brand made them change the name.

[@ffllaammeerr]

Thanks for the great review. Would love to see a Paseo vs CrossFit head to head.

[@georgek719]

I believe the LTV Wonder is also built on the Transit chassis, but has the diesel engine.

[@Ultramobility]

hi Gregory - you're right but the wonder is built on the cut-away chassis and not the van chassis.

[@mpgolfzen]

Neil !!! Love it- great review!!! I would guess this is the true 4 season you where talking about a few weeks back..... have a great weekend and tanks again for the great insight and review.....

[@Ultramobility]

yep coachmen is the manufacturer i was referring to. the galleria with polar package plus is the one I was speaking of with great 4 season capabilities.

[@mpgolfzen]

I love the galleria - great to know !!! Thanks again for your great reviews and insight!!@@Ultramobility

[@htwebb4512]

Hi Neil, can you talk about Van / RV insurances and what we need to protect out Van / RV and what we need to repair when we own one. Thanks

[@vickielane7387]

Like this one Neil! But not enough to pull me away from PW. The bath room and the cushion and the warranty. But I like the 4 season aspect and the engine upgrade and the suspension.... I'll be watching the 3 d too Thanks for another great review!

[@Ultramobility]

thanks Vickie. I'll be following Coachmen closely. if they continue on the path they're on then they will be a very good coach builder. they need to improve in some areas and offer a longer warranty. I agree.

[@SweetpeaandLilly]

I liked everything until the no ventilaion in the bathroom feature.

[@sleddy01]

Sorry if I missed this but with the lithium upgrade it would no longer be 4 season, correct? I think you said something about moving the water tank to accommodate the upgrade. Thanks for the awesome review, by the way. Also, I would think rear wheel drive in winter would not be very fun.

[@Ultramobility]

it would be. they move the lithium batteries inside (which needs to happen) and they move the fresh water tank outside but put heating pads on it.

[@brianwhitaker6040]

Thanks Neil just been away in our new van. Another great review again iam amazed you get great value for money

[@Ultramobility]

how do you love your new van? can you share anything with us state side here?

[@brianwhitaker6040]

@@Ultramobility Happy with the van its 1 year old came out off the Maui rental fleet so it has done 21,000km 4 berth drop down bed over rear lounge. Front has both captains seats and two travel seats. It has a few issues but they will be covered as have 1 year warranty and 2 year vehicle warranty left.

[@Ultramobility]

it sounds great Brian! i bet there are lots of scenic places on your list to explore in NZ! Keep us informed!

[@brianwhitaker6040]

@@Ultramobility Will do I the van being second hand saves you around 15 to 20 thousand and is just run in

[@mitchcollins2947]

Well done. I was not aware of how feature-rich this van is. How is there reputation for reliability?

[@jaykaydee5772]

A nice gem of a review. Love this sleeper best buy travel van that you recommend.

[@277kne]

Is this the longest,extended Transit? I would to know the length and width of the bathroom. Could you post some measurements of other bathrooms to compare? I have a standard, 1948 bathtub shower at home. Trying to get an idea of space.

[@rickventurini4500]

Thank you Neil, another great review which I can comfortably drive. I looked at the Galleria and the Crossfit at the Pomona show and it seems like there is alot going on for the money!!!

[@Ultramobility]

the crossfit definitely has more room than other coaches for a taller person. I loved the amount I could move the driving seat back in the CrossFit.

[@dandoyle8908]

Rick and Neil, the behind the driver's seat storage area and ability to recline the drivers seat was a deciding factor in our purchase of our Crossfit 22C. The other area was the bathroom on the drivers side which opens up the over the shoulder view out the RH side of the vehicle.

[@colormedubious4747]

Excellent review!

[@kendclife7913]

I would love to get that type of insulation in my Axion!! I hope it catches on.

[@Ultramobility]

The steps Coachmen is taking to better insulate their rigs is to be commended. I hope they continue.

[@mrslcom]

Ken's Fulltime Vanlife. Yes it would be nice if the Axion (and others) at least have a winterized option.

[@DonQ]

Too bad there isn't a front lounge...do the cab seats turn around? maybe not so important since there isn't a lounge. But you could always buy a lightweight, stow-able table and plop that down for a front lounge table.

[@edmor127]

Great review....This is definitely my van...i need all the upgrades...the ecoboost engine and the lithium upgrade...ofc thats going to make this pricey....now all I have to do is save some cash for the downpayment....The nut is going to be around 120,000 I think....wish me luck....this checked all my boxes.....The travel Liesure was my second choice but the deal breaker was the diesel version of ford and the fact that LTV doesn't even try to make a four season van......strange since LTV is a Canadian company......

[@Ultramobility]

you may be able to do better than $120k I think fully loaded...

[@joed9294]

Neil, Appreciate all your great reviews and have watched several multiple times. Like you, I'm an analytic person and am doing my homework before making a purchase of a class B. I am, however, confused with your "buy" recommendation on the Coachmen Crossfit/Beyond 22D while you only gave the Coachmen Galleria 24 FL a "consider" recommendation just a few weeks earlier stating that was based on the 1-year warranty. I am, at this stage torn between the Coachmen Beyond or the Galleria and the Pleasure-Way Lexor. I agree that Pleasure-Way goes to the extreme in their build quality but I also like what I see in the Coachmen build quality thus far. I understand the big difference between the 5-year vs 1-year warranty as well, but what is the cost of a good extended warranty? Given Total Cost of Ownership is about equal between gas and diesel, I like the safety features of the Sprinter the most but, am concerned that the Dodge on the Pleasure-way is seriously lacking in those features while the Ford has some of the safety features and the Mercedes all of the features which influenced your purchase decision. You did state that you felt that Coachmen could go with a 3-year warranty but you felt the potential liability kept them from improving their warranty. Again, why only "consider" the Galleria but "buy" the Crossfit / Beyond? Keep up the good work and don't be afraid to hammer those manufacturers that aren't putting out a decent quality product. At a minimum price of $70k for a Class B, these are major purchases for most folks and we all want you to keep telling it like it is. Thanks again for being out there and calling out the good, the bad, and the truly ugly.

[@steveg9573]

Just saw this at CT RV show. Salesman said 4WD version is coming out.

[@AudeKhatru]

Thanks for the review, you covered everything. I have just a few problems with the Crossfit. First, I am 6'4" and over 300 lbs and that shower feels claustrophobic. It is the way it curves in at the top. My extra six inches over you makes this shower problematic. Second, that bed is the exact same length that I am, 76". That is a small problem. I also have bad knees and putting the fridge low is a problem for me. I would find that freezer difficult to use. I wish that the freezer was a drawer. Thank you for the information on the quality of the cabinets, and the suspension upgrade. The Crossfit has a great price and it is still on my consider list. I just wish that I could figure out how they took five inches out of the interior height.

[@billgolladay2973]

Excellent review! As a tall guy, this van has several features that make it enticing. One question: what are the long term service implications of having dual wheels? It seems obvious that replacing 6 tires will be significantly more expensive than replacing 4. Besides the handling, are their any other pros/cons to having dualies?

[@Ultramobility]

mainly for handling and carrying the load of the coach. I had dualies. I now don't have them but my chassis is 3 feet shorter. I think they are good on longer chassis.

[@altapia54]

Please always state the towing weight. Also does the towing weight increase with the turbo?

[@mjcubo2246]

Please correct me if I misunderstood - if one opts for the Li3 lithium batteries w/ 3,000 inverter and 3300w under-hood generator then the water tank goes outside the coach and will no longer be protected from freezing in colder climates in the winter (thus it will cease to be a 4 season vehicle) BUT if one just takes the "Power Plus Package" that includes a 2,000 inverter it will continue to be a true 4 season vehicle. Something that I have noticed in most KZbin presentations (yours included) is that heating capacities are always discussed but cooling capacities are not. How well does it stay cool in a hot and humid environment? Is there a 20 degree difference in temp there too? I live in a place that gets below freezing in winter and up into the high 90-to-low 100 degrees. I don't want to freeze to death but I don't want to suffocate and melt away either. I am new to this but seriously looking (this is how I found your channel). Since you did not mention any dual pane windows I'm guessing this doesn't have them and may not keep me cook in the summers. Anyone with true facts please feel free to comment.

[@Ultramobility]

yes the fresh water tank is moved outside and they add heating pads.

[@sewistnotsewer]

Great review as always! Nice van but, bottom line, there's no way I'd consider making this type of investment with a one year warranty. Also the lack of counter space is annoying - can they hire designers who actually like to cook?

[@mattsmolinski595]

Is the propane tank located underneath close to the ground.

[@MattsRVReviews]

Hey Neil, This was a GREAT Review! I have a KZbin Channel Where I do Reviews and I feel like you did a great job! Theyre was sometimes you did that I like that I will start to do that will improve my personal videos! Keep up the good work! -matt

[@Ultramobility]

wow thanks for that Matt!

[@MattsRVReviews]

@@Ultramobility No Problem... I see you were at See Grins In CA is that where you live? I live in Maryland Let me know if your ever over that way. I think we could make a good collaboration video on Not Comparing "Brand X against Brand Y" But I thing a good Video would be a Comparison Of Dodge Chassis vs Chevy Chassis vs Ford Chassis vs Mercedes Chassis... and Going over the Pros and Cons of the Chassis and not the Brands! and if your never in Maryland then no big deal lol keep up the good videos! -Matt

[@bobcat5412]

Great video. I'm definitely gonna seriously consider this rv. I can't wait to see it in person. I'd like to check out both layouts. Would love to go all electric, provided it's not cost prohibitive. Thank You again. Bob.

[@Ultramobility]

check 'em both out! you may be able to get a good deal on the li3 option.

[@bobcat5412]

@@Ultramobility Any idea of their approximate selling price?

[@Ultramobility]

well they're not out yet - sometime in January for the li3 system for the CrossFit so if you ordered now you likely wouldn't get much of a discount. but if the galleria is any indication then i'm seeing li3 coachmen gallerias for $130k with an msrp of $164k. that's a 20% discount right off the bat and i'm sure you could work them down lower. so if the crossfit li3 holds to the same discounting then i'd say maybe a 20% discount? it's hard to tell too because if it turns out that the crossfit li3 system is really popular and dealers can't keep them on their lots then the discount will be less. make sense?

[@bobcat5412]

@@Ultramobility Absolutely. Thank You.

[@leoluck68]

Thanks Neil!

[@Ultramobility]

Enjoy on you Black Friday!

[@zonacrs]

Great review Neil. Impressive rig. Add a 4x4 conversion and this might be Goldilocks. Is the fridge 12/110? Kind of important with no inverter.

[@bjgdal]

Yes the fridge is 12/110

[@Ultramobility]

unfortunately ford doesn't make a 4x4 transit chassis. but the galleria model from coachmen does offer 4x4 as an option.

[@zonacrs]

@@Ultramobility Thanks Neil. I was thinking aftermarket conversion.

[@danielhoegler2062]

@@Ultramobility Hey Neil, just noticed that ford is coming out in 2020 with an AWD for the transit!

[@lmt1022]

Is a roof rack an option? Not seeing any in listings and I think that would make it look better with the awning.

[@SistahRev]

This vehicle checks a LOT of the boxes for me. Did I have a brain hiccup- I missed commentary on ceiling-based ventilation: fan(s), air conditioning, vents, skylight, etc.?? Thanks for giving us an inside peek!🌼💐🌺 P.S. I don’t love the warranty either, and wish it had a CONVECTION microwave to go along with the induction cooktop... and a macerator, or cartridge toilet.

[@Ultramobility]

hey there. there is a fantastic vent van outside the bathroom and galley in the aisle. it comes with a rooftop ac. no other skylights.

[@GaryMiller1973]

Thank you. Great video

[@intuitiveinspiredart4366]

I'd like to vote for a review of the Hymer Aktiv 2.0 ECO (non loft). I didn't see it listed as an option.

[@Ultramobility]

noted!

[@intuitiveinspiredart4366]

@@Ultramobility I'm particularly wondering "how cold can it go....". As in full timing in cold weather, we would also have a C-Head composting toilet and not use the cassette.

[@Ultramobility]

The Polar Package which is only available on the GAlleria at this time is rated to -27 degrees below freezing. They don't state what the CrossFit can go down to. Maybe Nick their GM can chime in. It's 20 degrees lower than what the previously had been rated at with internally plumbed lines and tanks. Let's assume they were down to say 35 degrees before then with the next upgraded insulation they're down to 15 degrees. but then again I'm not sure and they would need to chime in.

[@jamesepace]

See Grins RV! You were in Gilroy, my home town! :) Hope you got something garlic-y.

[@joannegoodman1388]

Are there any really good warrantees one can buy that are comprehensive and reliable wherever one travels

[@JFWienecke]

Neil, thanks for van reviews. I was confused with this review for several reasons, since the gray tank and black tank does not have heating pads how can you make the declaration that its a 4 season van. Then it further compromised if you upgrade to the Lithium battery upgrade forcing the fresh water tank being moved to the outside of the van further reducing the capability to be a 4 season van. It appears to me this is a 3 season van. Without the lithium package the owner would still need to upgrade the van to make is possible to be able to work in 4 seasons, but still it would need to be tested. Am I missing something here? Thanks in advance.

[@chrisgemgnani9280]

Hi Neil Please help me understand the comment about a 22ft rig being too long for a parking space. Is this based on law or just a visual thing? Thanks for your time

[@amyschaefer1140]

I love this one! Great review.

[@horizon42q]

Neil, what happened to you? You have so many great videos. Hope you get back to the reviews again.

[@jaykaydee5772]

Excellent review with actual photos of the features and avoidance of a “talking head” that only talks about the features that I see in competing KZbin videos. Very well done presentation.

[@jamesestabrook4142]

Great review

[@jamesklucky777]

Please Can you look at the new style coachmen cross trek model looks like no generator but eco friendly with 3000 watt inverter and crazy storage for small footprint wondering about pricing and demo

[@clicks2flickswiththewiz563]

Neil, great job as always. The 23" wide beds seem really narrow. Can the back bolsters be removed to add some width?

[@jodiharmon1899]

I have the same question. Can the bolsters be removed?

[@21jmack21]

12:13 shows the bolsters in the middle.

[@alberthilditch9167]

Why isn't anyone asking about the issue that both the drivers and passengers seats will not rotate ? That is a huge feature in a B class.

[@hdlowrider5413]

Maybe I missed it. Any generator option? Another great review.

[@Ultramobility]

2.8kw gas standard. you can upgrade to the li3 option which upgrades your generator to a 3.6kw under hood generator and 600ah of lithium for $22k.

[@leonawilliams6599]

very nice unit thank you for the review

[@Ultramobility]

Thanks for watching!

[@Adiscretefirm]

In situations where you expect freezing temps overnight, can you forgo tank heaters by just sacrificing some black/grey water capacity and putting a gallon or 2 of RV antifreeze in each?

[@Ultramobility]

so if the temp is not going to go much lower then freezing and then rise up during the day above freezing there's likely latent heat energy in the water to keep it from freezing in the tanks. if the temps go down much lower than freezing or the next day temps remain below freezing then you run the risk of tanks starting to freeze. I've use the method that you outline for temps in Quebec that drop far below freezing in the winter but it takes a lot of antifreeze: like 50% or more to keep the tanks from freezing. that basically means you flush with antifreeze. that worked for me but you do need to use a lot of antifreeze. still the antifreeze won't keep the liquids from freezing in your tanks. they will freeze at sufficiently low temperatures but the key is that the liquid hopefully doesn't expand so much as to crack your tanks. its a misnomer that antifreeze doesn't freeze. it does. its not supposed to expand. but when you dilute it it will expand. the more dilution the more expansion. make sense?

[@Adiscretefirm]

Thank you for the explanation, I was thinking about north Florida deer season, often dipping into the high 20's at night, but almost always getting above freezing during the day.

[@Michael-pu3yw]

As always a spot on video. Would you say the quality matches the IROK?

[@Ultramobility]

mmmmm, no. in some ways it's better but in other ways it doesn't match it. when you go into an IROK it feels higher quality. the fit and finish is higher. tighter. materials are higher quality. but the components on the two are comparable and the insulation on the CrossFit is on par. the drawers and cabinets on the CrossFit hold their own against the IROK.

[@steveross2908]

I missed the tow rating? I'm assuming with dually wheel chassis and upgraded engine at least 5,000 lbs?

[@patanderson7136]

What is the difference between the 22B, 22C and 22D

[@steveross2908]

Did Ford make a "secret" 3.7 EcoTech engine for this camper? Current trucks only get a 3.5 Ltr. Lol Great job on your videos

[@Snickers_GLNY]

Great review as always. Looks like a wonderful unit. Does this have anything similar to voltstart?

[@Ultramobility]

nope. they are adding automatic generator start to the regular generator if you opt for the Power Plus package which becomes available in January of 2019.

[@marcbathon2346]

Are they sliding windows