Peugeot e2008 - how does it compare to other compact SUVs? | 100% Independent, 100% Electric

[@fullychargedshow]

LIKE if range is important to you & SHARE if you think car makers should make EVs from the ground up The Peugeot e2008 certainly looks the part, but how does it compare to the other compact SUV electric cars on the market? It's beautifully made and easy to drive, but for a car with a usable battery of 45kWh you might expect a better real world range than this offers. The inside is comfortable and it has a decent boot but it lacks a reversing camera and has some quirky internal lights that look flashy, but are a bit distracting. The e2008 is a decent effort, but in an increasingly crowded market for compact SUVs, does it do enough? You tell us! Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to KZbin Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a KZbin member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow *Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 0:50 Another compact SUV? 2:50 A good looking car 3:44 Don't dither, get the electric 5:39 Comfortable inside 5:56 Distracting lights 6:49 Inaccurate range stats 7:34 Peculiar software quirks 8:40 Where is the trip meter? 9:18 Speed stats 10:34 Nice big boot 11:17 No reversing camera! 11:52 GT features come at a price 13:13 Flashy but lacking range 13:48 Charging demo 15:52 Not blown away 16:14 Lean factor 17:40 Fossil fuel hangover 18:20 Don't love it, don't hate it 18:38 Subscribe, support, join

[@1818joe]

As a Peugeot salesman im confused as to the spec you have been given? The Allure does not have a camera but the Gt Line should have? you dont have to go to GT to get a camera? Looking at the model you have it is a GT Line with options, it has not got the alcantara interior but it does have the panoramic roof? Real life range should be about 180 from personal experience in town but maybe a lot less on motorways. Also Peugeot Marketing has been using the WLTP of 190-200 not the NEDC The ambient lights colour can be changed and also lowered or turned off completely. There is a button on the end of the wiper stalk to show you your trips including Mile per KWh Love the vids and i would love to answer any questions you might have as someone who is actually dealing with these models on a daily basis. Its a shame that it just arrived and a Peugeot Rep didn't run through some of the controls and features with you. things like the trip meter is something i would have shown you within the showroom let alone when you actually drive the car.

[@fullychargedshow]

@@1818joe Thanks for that response Joe, and I cannot tell you the frustration level of knowing how to view the trip meter!! Gggnnnn!!!. It is also part of the problem of not having the car for longer, and also not doing enough research (my fail) but all that aside, I genuinely loved the car.

[@hamza-bq1in]

Ive had this now for a month. Have had consistently 193miles on the range meter.

[@RyanHawkes87]

Our range has been averaging 170-180 miles after about 1000 miles of normal (not particularly careful) driving, including plenty of motorways.

[@sjcsystems]

@@1818joe my thoughts entirely, I have a 3008 GT Line which I love, but I have front and rear cameras (front is an option), and the Focal sound system. I want the e3008 please.

[@spacedoutET]

I own this car. The inside led can be dimmed or turned off if it bothers you. Mine don't bother me. Over 800 miles, I have an average 4.0 miles per kWh. I have heater on auto and get over 160 to 180 miles at this time of year. I'm a careful driver and expect much more miles in summer like I used to with my older leaf I had. I also have a reverse camera

[@Gr33nMamba]

I don't think I've ever been in a car where the interior switch lights, mood lighting or infomedia screen can't be dimmed.

[@martingorbush2944]

4 miles per kWh? That sounds not plausible. This is only about 150Wh per km. The most efficient smaller EV use that. On the other hand I Wonder how much interior heating affects that rating. IFAIK there is no heat pump in this car.

[@TomYnysMon]

your maths is a bit out Martin. 4miles per kWh is 250Wh/mile, so sounds very plausible. and with 45kWh battery that would be 180miles of range.

[@ujkakevin]

I have had this model SE Line since July. During the summer I was averaging in excess of 6m/kWh but now we are in colder weather (plus I am doing shorter journeys) I am getting just under 4m/KWh. I plan on 160mile range during cold weather - shorter journeys using sport mode will decrease this but this is down to driving style

[@chickensays]

So pretty much what Bjorn Nyland got on his range test! 👍

[@huwdavies6650]

Trip meter on all modern Peugeot cars is displayed on the instrument panel when you press the button on the end of the wiper stalk.

[@DogsBAwesome]

If it's anything like my corsa-e you can only have the trip in the central screen in a sub menu which is crap, and yes you press the stalk to set the trip.

[@olekseleznov6]

It can also be set up to be displayed on one of the "personal" dashboard layouts

[@Gr33nMamba]

It's "optional information" and has to be chosen as part of either Personal 1 or Personal 2, dash view.

[@WojtekSiudzinski]

I believe the MyPeugot app also will show all the trips including the power consumption

[@olekseleznov6]

@@WojtekSiudzinski Trips - yes, consumption - no. French developers are very conservative and app has only fossil fuel support... It's a bummer when such a good car is darkened by software limitations. Several software tweaks in app and dashboard and it would be perfect...

[@AlexPacker]

Having driven one of these, I can say it's one of the quietest cars I've ever been in. Very refined. That familiarity to traditional cars works for a lot of people who don't want a wacky, novel experience from their car. They don't offer base spec trims because a) they don't sell well for any car - most people buy mid or top level trims anyway. b) how do you justify the cost of a base spec EV which is many thousands more expensive than the equivalent combustion car? You don't. You offer what people expect at that price point.

[@mickvincent7357]

I appreciate you drive loads of cars so can't know all the options, this is for your viewers from an owner who has done 3500 miles so far ( much better than my last car Golf GTE). The dashboard lights are dimmable and the colours can be changed easily. There are two trip meters on the end of the right stalk giving range, speed and miles/Kwh. There are 3 power levels default/normal with the option of approx +/-10%, Although I would like another 50 miles of range I always get about 150 miles unless I drive it hard. The range is really quite accurate to your driving style so as you say yours is a journalists car. I hope this helps.

[@oksyar]

but he is right about no back camera??

[@mickvincent7357]

I actually have the rear camera that also shows the ground around the car ( 180 degrees ) as I reverse, standard on GT Line and GT. Probably not set correctly as it has options like auto zoom to show aerial view of the bumper. BTW it's possible to configure and save most things for 3 users or just stay with factory. I think a previous user has just been playing!

[@teslaroy4950]

@@oksyar The GT Line has a reversing camera and a heat pump. lol.

[@MrGonzonator]

4:37 Why, oh why, oh WHY do you guys keep getting the conversions wrong! 290 Wh/mi should be 180 Wh/km (Pretty decent efficiency). Or alternatively, you have the units switched and it's really 290Wh/km and 466 Wh/mi (Pretty awful efficiency).

[@andymccabe6712]

I suspect it done specifically to irritate people like, er.......

[@jakobnev5973]

I think he left his math-circuits at the set of Red Dwarf.

[@mdashikuzzaman]

I was just about to make a comment about this and saw this. Robert, you need to fix this.

[@bukobuko2]

@@mdashikuzzaman I was also going to point out this - and they did this mistake at least 3 times recently, not only in this episode !

[@anydaynow01]

Or how about just forget the silly imperial units and stick with metric? If people can't understand metric units they can put into a conversion program, eventually they will learn to use metric.

[@Muppetkeeper]

No one mention the 6 to 8 kWh of energy it takes to refine a gallon of petrol, I can’t be more precise, as obviously the oil companies don’t really want us to think about it 😂. So basically if you have a Hyundai EV, you’d be about 40 miles down the road with just the energy needed to refine the petrol.

[@Tore_Lund]

You are forgetting one thing: you get 20 times more energy out of gasoline than IT takes making IT, you are Literally pulling IT out of the ground. Not so with electrons. They have to manufactured at a loss! So please stop that efficiency nonsense about EVs, They are 6 times less efficient than gasoline cars! The reason er like the is that They emit less polutants, but we can't drill for electricity, so They Will never be more energy efficient than with a combustion engine.

[@Muppetkeeper]

@@Tore_Lund As I look out of my window at the large wind farm, with megawatts of electricity literally being generated with no pollution at all, I can still hear your mad ranting about petrol. It’s over, get over it. You don’t need to drill for electricity, it comes down from the sun, it moves in the wind. Aside the the poetry, you are also really wrong. EVs do the equivalent of 140mpg if you measure kilowatt for kilowatt of fuel, and as in many civilised parts of the world, we use increasingly clean and not “drilled for” forms of electricity, your oil analogies are also wrong. And before you start ranting about the materials in wind farms and solar panels, I’ll just say... oil rigs, pipelines, refineries, gas tanker trucks, fuel stations and only then, 30 mpg.

[@ShadowJamchan]

@@Tore_Lund you clearly don't understand you physics. You can't make energy. You aren't making petrol you are digging it up and refining it. Once it's all gone good luck making more 😂

[@edwyncorteen1527]

@@Tore_Lund How wrong is it possible to be? You can drill for electricity, it is called geothermal energy, that is why all the server farms running the cloud are on Iceland! As others have said the other sources, Hydro (Norway), Solar (everywhere), Wind (everywhere) do not require drilling they are all powered by the Sun which is good for the next five billion years!

[@martingorbush2944]

@Muppet Keeper. Data about electrical energy consumption varies from rafinery to rafinery. In my country I can access data from the biggest oil company there but these are from 2014. Then I found that for 1000 liters they use about 1MWh to even 4MWh of electrical energy. That mean it is from 1 to 4 kWh per liter and that translates to 4.785 - 15.14 kWh per US gallon.

[@matiassnellingen9697]

You can select a reversing camera as an option when you buy the car.

[@zarkoh]

It's really odd since he was in a GT Line variant which is supposed to have that out of the box. But perhaps it depends on the market.

[@watchmrcontent]

@@zarkoh Yes, have a standard UK model, GT Line spec, (delivered August 2020) has reversing camera

[@zarkoh]

@@watchmrcontent You'd think reviewers always get the top variants for testing :)

[@Apafej627]

@@zarkoh they usually do get the highest spec cars and this being the GT line should have a reversing camera as standard not an option for that kind of money! It's a bit odd to me that it doesn't. 🤔😊

[@zarkoh]

@@Apafej627 yeah, it's precisely why I wondered to begin with. Even the variant under GT Line (called Allure) comes with the reversing cam.

[@RyanHawkes87]

Our GT Line e2008 came with a reversing camera as standard....

[@LAZARUSL0NG]

Robert’s ev review formula notes: 1: Tell them the colour. 2: Tell them that it’s nice to drive. 3: Tell them that the declared range is a bit of a fudge. 4: Tell them random things as they occur to me. 5: Share hope for a bare bones affordable electric car for the future. I LOVE ROBERT’S REVIEWS, AND I WILL WATCH THEM ALL.

[@Karow92]

It looks like you have watched them all already

[@LAZARUSL0NG]

@@Karow92 AND I WILL DO AGAIN ☝🏼

[@afterburner94]

Sprinkle a bit ouf a rant against fossil fuel companies and legacy autos dragging their feet as well, and you get the Bobby formula. Love it!

[@LAZARUSL0NG]

@@afterburner94 The Rant vids are their own thing. I think the formula is something like: Express frustration at the intransigence, wilful ignorance, and lies of a corporate/political power that is in favour of the shortsighted self-enriching nationally harmful energy status quo, briefly lapse into a guilt laden class hatred toff voice, swing wildly at Boris and stumble blindly into a swamp of communism, walk backwards through the globalist agenda until the cognitive dissonance dies down, and he’s back on the firm footing of ‘It would be nice if everything were like it is on Star-Trek’. I LOVE THESE TOO AND I WILL WATCH THEM ALL.

[@sonicdeathmonkey12]

6. What it's like to lean on

[@CarlBaravelli]

It is the range estimater that is the problem, not the range itself . It is very conservative and way out. The range is as advertised or more realistically as you can find on the EV database. I get about 220 to 250 km in winter (5-10 degrees and wet) in Norway

[@TheRichardHonor]

Yeah, there's still 15 miles easily left in it when it's "empty"

[@Tsenngu]

Where in norway do you live? I live not 40 minutes from Oslo. We DO have two months a year with -5 to -23 degrees. That is the only range that matters. My old Renault Zoe (the 2nd model) Went from 340KM high temp summer to like 180KM in the hardest winter with a 40kw battery and super conservative driving. That is almost 50% range loss in the hardest winter months wich is way way too much. I even had it parked in a closed garage all year round.

[@CarlBaravelli]

@@Tsenngu west coast (Bergen). It will of course get colder, but winter is defined by constant mild horrible stormy weather. I am interested to see though how it goes when it gets below 0

[@huwdavies6650]

The ambient lighting level should be adjustable in vehicle settings.

[@matiassnellingen9697]

Yes, you can set the color and brightness in your user profile.

[@ianrkav]

I just had one of these as a loaner while my diesel car was in for a service. I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed driving it, so much so that I just drove aimlessly around for a while just to experience it some more:-) I liked the smooth linear power delivery and of course, how quiet it was. Some have mentioned intrusive road noise but I didn't find it intrusive at all. It rode quietly and smoothly, and I drove over some very rough roads. Space inside was ok too. I'm 6" and I found the space in the back seat behind me was more than adequate. I did find visibility a little restrictive though. The rear view mirror, because of the sharply raked windscreen, was half way down the windscreen and blocked a lot of the view to the left. Also, I found judging the near side a bit tricky due to the high bonnet line so squeezing through narrow gaps in traffic was a little tricky at first, but I quickly go used to it. I also liked all the high tech in the car such as sat nav, apple and google play, reverse camera, inductive charging for smart phones etc. You couldn't ask for anything more. As for range I got it fully charged and in eco mode it had a range of 192 miles. This went down to about 170 miles in normal and 150 I think it was in sport mode. I found eco mode a bit sluggish and the accelerator required a fair push to get moving along nicely. Also, heating/air con was restricted in this mode too. Normal and sport were more like an ice car and it was these modes I used most. When I took it back eco mode was showing a range left as 100 miles. I hadn't done 92 miles, only about 50, but I had used normal and sport modes a lot and had the heating on so that must have been where the extra charge was used. To sum up I was quite impressed with this 'looks bigger than what it is' little car and seriously considered considered getting one, until I discovered the price! The spec I had was a new Allure Premium+GT with just 300 miles on the clock. It retailed at a fraction below £40,000! That's a hefty price to pay for an electric motor and some lithium batteries I thought. I'm still considering though, mainly to use locally, which is most of my driving anyway, and also because the tech intrigues me🙂 This all electric car is not something to use if you're doing lots of motorway miles but they are a great city car and 95% or more of us do drive mostly locally. As we all know they have no exhaust so don't pollute locally or wherever you're driving. They simply move the pollution elsewhere, ie, the power station where the pollution can be dealt with in one place with various filters etc. Which is a big plus I think:-)

[@AjarnDeeTeesut]

I got my E2008 nearly a month ago. Loving it so far.

[@themanwithinflatableknees8770]

What sort of range are you getting?

[@AjarnDeeTeesut]

@@themanwithinflatableknees8770 At the moment 120m from a full charge. Although its getting higher as my driving style has to adapt.

[@returner323617]

Robert, sorry to be the one to break it to you, but your maths is failing you: ~290wH per mile = ~3.45mpkWh... I believe that miles per kWH is the best comparison, as it's most directly comparable to mpg; and the kWH size of your battery (your "fuel tank") lets you know the probable range. And low and behold, when you multiple 3.45 * 45 you get 155.25 miles; just what the EVDB says. Other than that, another good review.

[@Smidge204]

Yes, EVDB says 250km (155 miles). The NEDC (New European Driving Cycle) gives a range of 267 miles. That's 172% of EVDB and apparently based on the rosiest of rosy scenarios. Even the manufacturer's site says the range is 206 miles, which is still 130% of what you should actually expect....

[@_Rafiki.]

There's a comment just above yours from someone who owns this saying the get 160-180 miles this time of the year with heater on

[@Smidge204]

@@_Rafiki. First I'd like to point out that "heater on auto" does not mean the heat is on, just that it's enabled and will come on based on cabin temperature. Second, it's usually not that difficult to do better than published range if you're a careful/mindful driver. My 2020 Kona EV is rated 258 miles and I can eek out 280-ish with the heat BLASTING... and it doesn't even have a heat pump, just resistance heat! Without heating 100% range is somewhere north of 300 miles. The problem here is Peugeot claims 206 miles, which is extremely generous even compared to the 160-180 miles that a "careful driver" gets. It deserves a raised eyebrow of incredulity...

[@_Rafiki.]

Hi @@Smidge204 thanks for clarifying this 🤘

[@ehombane]

My thought exactly, this is why I stopped to comment. Obviously, as the rest of us, he did not divided 1000 at 290, but rather made some math tricks and messed something. My trick was that, 290 is almost 300, so multiplied by 3 will be almost 900, though, the result is 3 plus something. There is no need for a full second to think that. So when he finished his..... two seconds aaaaboooouut, and said four, I knew that down here somebody already complained about his math skills :))

[@prerunnerwannabe]

4:40 Bless the heart of whoever keeps multiplying the Wh/mi by 1.6 to get Wh/km instead of dividing :)

[@stephenholland5930]

Exactly, I think they need to get a new calculator.

[@MovieViking]

@@stephenholland5930 Or use logic while operating the one they already got ;-)

[@lopezben3023]

. . . NOT, NOT, NOT ... Peuge-NOT. - .

[@jackdixon1761]

The e-2008 GT line does indeed have a reversing camera as standard, I have one myself.

[@koitorob]

Maybe he kept looking in the wrong place for the image. Like through the back window for instance?

[@danieln1813]

About the “transition car” stuff: I have to disagree with you. The consumer has to transition to electric as well, so I think it's good that it still feels familiar to them. For example, I am waiting for a an electric saloon car (such as the 508) that doesn't look like a kitchen appliance/spaceship.

[@afterburner94]

The pricetag for is not transitioning however. That's a shame.

[@Astke]

Honestly making a transition car in any case is a bad move. EV's are interesting because they are not bound to the internals of ICE. So interior shapes and exterior shapes can be drastically different. Which makes them feel interesting and new. From a new EV I at least expect 500 KM range and 150KW charging. So far only a small portion of EVs managed this. Many EV's made in 2020 were there mainly for regulations. Let's face it. Otherwise they would have waited a year with way more range and charge speeds. This includes ID.3, 4 and also the 208 and 2008. Especially horrible EV's like the Honda-E and Mazda MX-30 show that these are just statement cars. Not actually viable cars made for everyday use.

[@mikeperrett1539]

I'm waiting for a decent shooting brake - the MG5 is a choice of 1 only

[@cbcdesign001]

@@Astke I disagree, many are not interesting, they are just ugly. Many car enthusiasts detest the "Johnny 5" design mentality that seems to prevail with EVs too. We want a car that looks like a proper car but uses electric as the power source. Transition cars are a great idea, particularly if they get people like me to buy them, they sell well and help steer designers away from the novelty toy designs they are churning out. Because if all I had to choose from was ID3 or model 3 type cars with their revolting interior UI design, I would have to be dragged away from my ICE cars kicking and screaming.

[@sanoj92]

One nice feature of this car is the really quiet cabin. It is quieter than the Taycan, remarkable for it's price range

[@callumpetch7903]

I have been waiting for this review for a while. Remember the e208 from Fully Charged live 2019. Loved the design. The seat comfort was on the firm side. This year my parents were looking for there next car. They wanted a petrol powered jeep compass! I took them to Peugeot as it was the only electric SUV available on the Motability scheme (other than the MG). Made sure they tried the petrol first, then the electric. As soon as we got back to the dealership from the test drive they were sold on the e2008. The seats are much more comfortable than the e208, with enough room in the rear for tall adults and enough space for a wheelchair. They are also offering a free polar membership for a while, with a home charger as far as I know. When my parents went to make the factory order at the dealership, Motability took the car off the list that day! They didn't give us a real reason why, just usual grumble nonsense. 3 weeks later they put the car back on the list and my parents have ordered there first EV. They ordered the e2008 in GT spec. Handover is expected early next year. exciting times. Hope to make it to the next fully charged live whenever it happens.

[@claireasher4487]

This really confirmed my comfort experience with the seats. I have just ordered one and the seats were one of features for me.

[@csharpe5787]

@@claireasher4487 Me too. We've just told her on hope it comes soon.

[@TheRichardHonor]

The range is more like 140-180, it just has a horrendously pessimistic GOM. Some people are reporting that it's better after a software update.

[@RWBHere]

The claimed 290Wh per mile, and 45kWh of accessible battery, gives a range of 155 miles. That agrees with your estimate. Robert's maths was wrong, near the beginning of the video.

[@knifeyonline]

@@RWBHere so 250km range? sounds pretty perfect for life in the suburbs.

[@justlookingaround9834]

That is the best honest review of this car I’ve seen. Thank you.

[@benpaynter]

Totally agree with the MPG bit. We should always covert to MPG to show the efficiency of EV's. Also and importantly, when comparing the CO2 emissions we should ALWAYS include electricity used for refining petrol. If people include the generation of electricity when looking at EV's CO2 emissions then the same should be done for petrol and diesel.

[@john3Lee]

I'm so glad you are doing the comparison between petrol/electric in terms of mpg's....... It's generally too difficult to asses the scale of economy without this data.... Bravo Fully Charged...

[@RyanHawkes87]

The trip computer is pretty easy to find if you check the handbook; just press the button on the right stalk

[@ujkakevin]

Agreed RTFM :-). Most of the niggles are configurable (LED lighting colour and brightness).

[@adfarr121057]

I think something is wrong with your car. I have a Peugeot e2008 GT and when I charge it to full it gives me 312 km.

[@androo4519]

Robert tells it like it is! A road test that's actually useful instead of just an ego trip. Fab.

[@afterburner94]

I know! I love his review hes so open and honest about the fallacy of OEMs, it's a delight to watch!

[@csharpe5787]

Except he got a lot of the information Wrong.

[@903lew]

Dad got a Peugeot 4008 hybrid a while back and it’s quite lovely for what it is. I love the smaller steering wheel. Very elegant and easy to use, when I get back into the Skoda the normal steering wheel looks absolutely gigantic. I look forwards to the next generation of these cars, a proper EV from Peugeot would be very interesting.

[@AdrianMcDaid]

Thanks for honest review. Better to know upfront. Range and charging speed is king.

[@AkiKaivola]

Google "Peugeot trip meter". First result, even has a picture.

[@hellcat1988]

I put it to you all, those who say that cars aren't getting more and more cookie cutter, that you probably couldn't look at blacked out silhouettes of several different makes of compact SUV and crossover, and be able to tell which is which quickly and accurately. Also, you're not being picky about that interior light, it's a safety hazard. Glad to hear someone else recognizes that a simple example of AN car, with no frills and just the basic features that you'd expect on a base model 1995 honda civic, with 200 miles of range in the winter, would sell faster than they could fill out the order form.

[@VMKAROUND365]

You thinking abilities are good but no average consumer will buy a car without decent features these days

[@aljowen]

Have you looked at the side profiles of 2000's Saxo's, 106's, and Fiesta's? Cars within the same class looking similar is not a new thing, its more or less how its been for a very long time.

[@hellcat1988]

@@aljowen I'm WELL aware. Just look at most of the pickup trucks from the mid 90's - mid 2000's. Most of the sedans for the last 60 years too.

[@jonathancaplan4444]

Love your honesty. Keep up the good work.

[@LysanderLH]

So another equivalence is that this car has a 1 ½ Gallon fuel tank? Approximately. And depending on outside temperature, that will take you 130 miles? Buildings EVs for the sake of it is undermining the whole idea of sustainable transport.

[@zammO74]

“Waiting for a different designer to make an electric car not like a petrol car”.......the BMW i3 Robert! 8 years old. Designed and engineered for electric. Nothings been built like it since. And it STILL looks more futuristic and fresh than any other. Wheels in each corner, short blunt overhangs. CRF tub ultra lightweight. It’s brilliant! Shame no ones had the gumption, except VW now with the ID3 to do one. (Tesla’s are 3 box design)

[@jb372]

You can even have the trip meter as a dash display as the predominate reading. Also can be seen when pressing right hand stalk end

[@MattGarnham1]

The question for Robert is this or a MG ZS exclusive? Because that is cheaper and better specced, with a similar range (or better if Roberts experience holds true over long term)

[@stapsell]

I have the MG and for 22000 I'm over the moon. Range has been perfect except for driving it back from dealer in Wales on busy m5 with no charge points working. No longer a novice, I now just know where the super reliable instavolt stations are, but have only used x3 as all my charging is at home. This car looks very similar to mine probably slightly better range. I'm averaging 17kWh per 100km (or 3.7miles per kWh). Wife and kids love it. Just activating the "granny cable" with WiFi switch now as going to bed, for the most ECO friendly overnight electricity, planning to get octopus go when I'm less frantic at work. Don't think Rob has been to excited by either SUV, but MG is outselling most others due to price.

[@insomniavfx]

I went with the MG over this. Other than a few nitpicks I’m very happy with it, especially as the dealership had a £6000 discount on top of the £3000 government grant.

[@insomniavfx]

@@stapsell Nathaniel in Cardiff, by any chance? That’s where I got mine

[@simolatham03]

The MG its actually made by a vertically integrated battery manufacturer.

[@stapsell]

@@insomniavfx Panda motors in Swansea. Nice gang

[@therealcaldini]

8:00 Is it because the previous reviewer was driving it like a twat and now the software is trying to re-calculate what normal looks like?

[@jb372]

You can turn the line of light brightness down and alter the colour

[@Cloroplast2485]

Dacia announced an electric car, this car will be cheap (below 20k) and probably won't have as many shiny features, therefore it will just be a pragmatic car to get you from a to b.

[@yt_Ajay_]

You know, I think I come to this channel more often for Robert than the electric cars these days.

[@andymccabe6712]

Yeah, well, a car - metal box on wheels.......?!

[@ajo6326]

I have this car and regularly did around 200 miles during the summer around the city. We did a long trip to Somerset from London and averaged around 60mph and got 155 miles of range. In winter so far we're getting around 185 range. It's our first ev and we really like it. It's a lease, and now that we've had it we'll be getting something with 200+ If all you do is mostly city driving then you'll easily get above 180 miles of range across the year. Ignore Robert's crappy review car.

[@mho0]

I think also TeslaBjörn got quite good efficiency. So either car was faulty in this test or something wrong in test/review.

[@GabiFromSF]

Love the mountains at 2:20....strange that never seen them around Evesham before

[@lopezben3023]

. . . NOT, NOT, NOT ... Peuge-NOT. - .

[@taz2392]

I’ve got this on lease for 2 years £280 a month with a £2500 deposit and it’s amazing.

[@waynebateman1664]

I have always had a liking for Peugeot, that looks cool. No reversing camera because you can actually see out of the rear window.

[@stevieg7403]

This was an excellent review, it’s one of the first reviews that was honest and to the point.

[@hamza-bq1in]

Finally... been waiting for this for months. Too late tho already picked one up

[@PixiiGER]

are you happy with it?

[@hamza-bq1in]

@@PixiiGER Yes overall very good, got it using the BIK tax free system and it was somehow very reasonbly priced. Went for the GT so have a reversing camera ect. Much better than a petrol. Dont agree with his statment about the range. Im getting more than him....

[@themanwithinflatableknees8770]

@@hamza-bq1in I think almost everyone has said they’re getting more than him lol.

[@marcelfelten626]

Just a tip; I believe the conversion from wh/mile to wh/km is not correct. And perhaps you could add a high pass filter on the microphone audio. For those of us listening with a hifi set with a subwoofer. Love your content! Please keep it up! :)

[@seb.]

Add some night driving would be nice, to see the interior light and more importantly the headlights at work, good or not?

[@hartev7016]

I love my e2008. Driven carefully I get 4.2 miles per kWh, aggressively 3.1. My range at 10 celcius is between 189 and 140 miles. Annoying things about the car, the only way to see battery percentage whilst driving is via the phone app, fuse box takes up half the glove compartment on right hand drive versions, door cills too high and voice recognition appalling. I have no regrets, it's super refined, practical and efficient. I've driven many of the e2008's competitors and the Peugeot is my favourite. There is no heated steering wheel, they do a very basic version, rear view camera available, ambient lighting adjustable, trip computer easily accessed.

[@russvhill2]

At the Peugeot pre-launch event I said to the Rep that all EVs, not just the top trim, should have a reversing camera because pedestrians won't know they are about to move back. Every EV on sale today should have a cable storage area under the bonnet, not a quaint handbag taking up luggage space

[@stephenholland5930]

He said he usually stored the cable under the boot floor panel.

[@Grk149]

Do they come standard with pedestrian emergency stop front and back? If so, the camera would just be an extra nice thing to have but not absolutely necessary.

[@csharpe5787]

There's a great hidden storage area under the shelf in the boot.

[@DimitarMihaylovBG]

I have an e208 and I think I know the reason why Robert has been getting less predicted range. If I have been driving my e208 on the highway, it would need a FEW DAYS for the range to readjust to the lower consumption of city driving. The range estumation doesn't change rapidly when you go from high to low consumption and I think this was intentional, so your range prediction doesn't change rapidly up and down all the time and stress you. Mind you, I use ABRP to plan my trips, so I don't really care about shown range :) Cheers!

[@claireasher4487]

ABRP?

[@herbiehughes840]

I have a had a e2008 since the beginning of march. I have not reset the trip since i got it and it am averaging 4.3mi/kwh over 400 miles of rural and town driving. Highest temperature has been 9 degrees C. I believe i will get much better results in the summer.

[@pasoliman]

Started watching your content a few days ago. All cars so far that are not available in Canada but I'm still fascinated by what the rest of the world is doing! Would love to see some Chinese electric cars pop up on your channel as well! Takes me out of my north american bubble :)

[@alexthewheelers]

£28k (although for some reason it seems to be more like £32k on the Peugeot website for the base, £35k for the GT Line) ... compared to £20,590 for the petrol one. Don't think they'll be selling many of these on cost alone, you've really got to want to have the electric one knowing your break even point is going to be beyond 50,000 miles away! Also I think its a pretty dirty trick to make the electric one appear cheaper per month by whacking on a £10k extra deposit over the petrol ones to get the monthly payments to look sensible!

[@bonilla2022]

Yet another "Spot-on" review. Thank you.

[@GrahamTriggsUK]

Do you watch "On The Road" (ITV 4)? They've just (tonight - 26th) reviewed the Peugeot 2008 - both the petrol and electric variations side by side. And - spoiler alert - refreshingly for a TV motoring show they were positive about the electric version.

[@EGTGUY]

I picked mine up end of September, new GT, from Peugeot Edgware. When I got into it in the collection room, it showed 200miles range. I now charge it at home on my wall charger and fully charged it usually reports +-135miles. It obviously has to do with the outside temperature, which in St Albans lately is very cold and that does impact the onboard estimated range. I was told that in ideal conditions (mild weather) that figure will increase.

[@thumper1747]

Bjorn Nyland provided data at the end of his video. The 2008 did 610 miles on 154kwhs, that’s 3.9 miles per kWh. He chose mid priced chargers, preferring to save money over expediency, but at 35pence per kwh, this translates into a total cost of £53.90 to travel 610 miles. That’s 9p a mile. The range wasn’t actually established as he arrived at chargers with 10% and charged up to different levels to optimise his ‘get away’ and to avoid the delay in charging above 80%. Financial and efficiency stats are secondary to the environmental benefits though

[@Heather-Van-Raden]

I love how Robert is casually leaning against the moving car on the tile 🤣

[@jizzlecizzle1388]

4:38 According to the EV Database, the efficiency is 180 Wh/km. You guys messed up, again, the conversion from Wh/mi to Wh/km. You divide the former by 1.609, not multiply. 466 Wh/km would be outrageous.

[@Smartsparky]

Peugeot is one brand I’ve always thought is just pure ugly. They’ve defo had a new designer take over! Their cars are looking really good the now.

[@Karow92]

I like your new video editing style, who ever is doing it, keep up the good work

[@cnewto12]

Turn the mood lighting down in the settings!

[@TassieEV]

Well although it will never see the light of day in Australia doesn't sound like we are missing out on much either.

[@jamiewright4704]

If my Renault kangoo ze had a 100 kw battery instead of it’s 33kw and held 200+ winter range here in Gloucestershire for back lane drives you open it up by taking the panel out behind the drivers seat I would keep it for more than it’s current 10k instead of wanting to upgrade to a cyber truck as soon as.. love the channel.thanks.

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

The best thing with the the world going electric is the decline in caravans on the road

[@crg178]

Yes, I agree, no more caravans; until I buy one. 😀

[@detaart]

Well ... yes and no ... many of these new electric cars look like a caravan with their weird designs.

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

@@detaart The future always looks weird. I should clarify that I meant to say 'Caravaners'

[@nsmartyn76]

You missed the 1 major problem with Peugeot which is the glove box! They are too lazy to move the fuse box with the steering wheel so the glove box is pointless. I ordered an E208 which we were expecting on the 20th, thats only a few days away and they still haven't even made it so I expect a lengthy delay but our dealer hasn't been any good and we tend to have to do the chasing for updates

[@MarkGaudie]

Really like the front seats in the new Peugeot cars.

[@chris86evans]

On the efficiency of petrol engines, the ICE component of the current Mercedes F1 engine is the most efficient in the world and that achieves a little over 50% thermal efficiency (the amount of energy going in that is translated to work). On their Project One road car which will have an engine derived from the F1 car, they hope to get just over 40%. When some of the most talented engineers in the world can barely crack 50% on an ICU, while any bog standard EV can easily top 80% efficiency and the good ones are well into the 90's, there's no question the direction the world is going in.

[@CarlBaravelli]

it has a trip meter. but it is buried as you say. You have access it through your personal controls on the 3d dash and then press the button on the knob to your right. You can have up to 2 trip meters at once

[@crg178]

Constructive criticism, the MPG equivalence rant is best placed in your studio sessions rather than in a car review. Entirely valid and important topic, possibly misplaced.

[@MrSavage77]

You can access and reset the trip meter pushing the top button of the right lever ;)

[@philippayne6655]

They only offer that level of trim to justify the inflated prices

[@pablofb75]

I own one of these and have been in contact with the makers about range indications. As a very careful driver I get 4.6 miles per kilo potato but, from less than 90 miles showing a couple of nights ago, a full charge lifted that to 124 miles though indicating 100% on another page. I thinks there's a software glitch. I love you btw.

[@joelottar1103]

The text with consumption figures in Wh per mile or km are messed up at 4:40. It states 290 Wh per mile and 466 Wh per km, but since a mile is longer than a kilometer this makes no sense! I assume you accidentally did the conversion the wrong way round? I.e. converted 290 miles to 466 km? Assuming the 290 Wh per mile figure is correct, it would translate to 180 Wh per km, which sounds about right. This is the second time I've noticed this error in a fully charged EV review. Anyway, thanks for posting videos like this about the many new EV models that are appearing! Seems not so long ago that there were only a handful of options. :)

[@philclark7346]

I have ordered a GT line my daily commute to and from work is 28 miles and weekend around 40 to 45 miles each day on a very busy weekend. So realistic I’am looking at around 220 miles a week. So a month around 880 miles, if I only get 150 miles out of a full charge which I think is a bit low looking at all the evidence that’s just under 6 full charges a month. My electric supplier after 12.30am till 04.00am charges 0.05p per kWh this means less then £20 a month. I honestly can’t remember when I last went on holiday in this country I live 2 miles from Manchester airport and the last 30 years use this for my travel needs. If I can’t plug a car in 6 times a month on my drive and set it via the app to start charging at 00.30 in the morning there is something seriously wrong with me and I shouldn’t be allowed to drive on public roads. If the average driver takes time and thinks about their average distance spent in their cars each month they will soon realise that the obsession with range is just something everyone else seems obsessed with and the average person could easily live with any electric vehicle.

[@csharpe5787]

Very well said.

[@patrickjr11]

I think even city cars need 150+ miles range, in winter driving, after that it is just nice to have. The weight of the battery is the same full or empty, so there is a point where the huge battery becomes an efficiency drag, along with much longer charger wait times. I get the feeling car manufacturers and the general non EV public, are still stuck in the petrol station mentality where you only charge ( fill up ) once - twice a month, so the battery needs to replicate that. In reality, a charger needs to be where the car is parked up for a length of time. So you graze charge not gorge charge.

[@HairyCheese]

I suppose it depends if you live in a flat. My first ev was Renault Zoe 22kwh, I quickly learned I didn't need to charge all the time, even with a winter range of 70 miles. I topped up at home and warmed the car before leaving....

[@andrewbell8964]

According to the Peugeot website, all except the entry level model come with a reversing camera as standard!

[@shuashua958]

I'm going to the ebike expo this weekend in Auckland. If I'm lucky I'll find someone to convince you that it is worth coming to NZ with your next live show.

[@marty131]

FYI - @4:40 - conversion from Wh/mile to Wh/km was accidentally multiplied by 1.609 instead of divided by..... Would be good to see a table of comparison to other EVs of similar class and generation... Also, is this manufacturer's claims, or actual result of testing?

[@michaeledwards8079]

It would be nice to have a head to head test and comparison with the MG ZS EV as its similar spec for far less money

[@jorge9000]

For the first time a deslike from me. About the range this was based on the driving style from previous drivers. From other tests and from owners the range is good. I think is not an issue if the car was build for being compatible with a combustion engine as well.

[@TheGazmondo]

I so agree with you about range, it’s the one things petrol heads embarrass us EV fans with. You never ask a sales person when buying a gas car, how far will this car travel when I fill it with gas. And how long will it take to fill up ? Elon has most car makers over a barrel.

[@iBackBeat]

And as always: PLEASE, show the boot with seats down! Thank you!

[@kevingrainger2530]

Dear Sir, A point well made, You only get an E20008 in the GT trim which makes electric cars too expensive for the Motability scheme. There shouldn't be a scheme for peoples' mobility, we have the Equality Act 2010. Peugeot are in fear of customers opinion on EV's so they use pricing and trim level as a weapon in response to being told what to do from a politician. Good review, thank you.

[@Trevorfoggia]

130 miles on a full charge, that’s terrible. Long live Kia / Hyundai large battery cars with 280 miles. I can’t say I’m impressed with the 2008e Robert. My number one choice would be the eSoul. For price / range / speed / standard equipment / safety features it is a winner. Great review though Robert, great channel. Greetings from Cumbria. Stay safe and well.

[@dominicfoley4674]

I have been waiting so long for you guys to do a review on this car. Thank you very much!! No doubt its a lovely car but you are dead right, its a transition car. I would definitely wait for an updated version in a few years time to see what improvements have been made for distance and the inclusion of a reversing camera ;-)

[@forkedMuffin]

There is a reversing camera. This guy didn't even bother opening a booklet to see all options. You can get a basic electric, you can have a camera. There are so many incorrect things he said in this review...

[@dominicfoley4674]

@@forkedMuffin good to know thanks for the reply. Probably best to test drive it myself before making any sort of conclusions. After reading up on the car the GT line definitely has reverse camera. Not sure why he said what he said. A lot of incorrect things in this review which is disappointing.

[@rebelphescooter3278]

i thing this reporter car petrol dont know this car

[@rebelphescooter3278]

@@forkedMuffin yes

[@Walterp60]

Miles per gallon is directly related to the cost of electricity. If I charge at home on overnight 4.47p kwh I get 240mpge. If I charge in Tesla Superchargers at 24p kw I get 60mpge. If I charge off shell at 39p kw I get 39 mpge. Most public charge points are very expensive.

[@bitman666]

290wH per mile works out as 1000/290 = 3.44 miles per kW, I think, so not 4.5 and I agree you should publish this :) and with a 45kW battery 45 * 3.44 is approx 155 range (which, I see, agrees with EV database's figure)

[@stijnhs]

The conversion is also terrible... 466W/Km would mean it does 1.3 miles per kW

[@davidlopezlive]

I can't get over how much the style of this vehicle looks like my Nissan Kicks.

[@rufusm4204]

I'm happy to hear you repeat my rant a few weeks ago on your site about the needless add-ons that jack up the price and doesn't get into the hands of the average consumer. These will not be common vehicles until the gee whizz engineers keep force feeding us what we don want or need, which is a a sub $18,000 vehicle BEFORE incentives. I understand the Chinese labor costs are different and affect the price there, but why are the prices doubled or more just to arrive on other shores? As long as the companies are beholden to the fossil fuel industries, quarterly dividends to shareholders, executives bonuses and salaries and not the customers needs, there will not be widespread adoption of EV's available to the average consumer. I don't need a $800-$1000 watch or cell phone to be able to tell time or call my friends and family. The less expensive versions are widely available. My delicate ego can handle it.

[@philiplmoore3995]

Really interesting, we looked at this car recently, but went for the MG in the end so glad we did. :-)

[@hellmekun]

what makes you choose MG (i'm guessing ZS?) instead of e2008?

[@alexdalgleish1061]

What's weight difference over e-208 as that does 185 miles. Repeated CCS charging on car tested here and a light foot, might do 145 miles. Better off with MG ZS instead.

[@mikeuk4130]

Or an MG 5, although I'd forgotten for an instant that MG is Chinese, not British. Interesting how the MG brochure has an MGC GT in the showroom alongside the new car.

[@waruswaller1580]

MG ZS EV drives better?

[@anders21karlsson]

I have a feeling Fully charged got stock in cars. I know Fully charged is a lot about ev's But it's getting boring with all this car episodes. Don't get me wrong, i love Fully charged But it is so much more than cars cars cars . 😊 Keep up the awsome work Robert!! 👍🏿

[@fullychargedshow]

Perceptive! We couldn’t film any cars for several months, then we got them all at once. Equally we can’t film indoors in lots of places at the moment; so episodes aren’t coming out in the order we would ordinarily like. Thanks, Dan

[@anders21karlsson]

@@fullychargedshow ok. Everything has its explanation. Thank you for the answer. 😊 👍🏿

[@kevinjones7732]

Would be interesting to see a final thoughts vid before you kick it back to Peugeot.

[@TechItOut]

As this and the Mokka are basically the same car which would you prefer?

[@christophergallagher9146]

I don’t think that the Peugeot E 2008 has a heated steering wheel option on any trim level, but I’ll be happy to be corrected if wrong.

[@amaljoe367]

I would love to see companies to come up with simple cheap electric cars... Without any flashy features like autoclose doors, heated seats, autonomous driving... stuff like that.

[@TassieLorenzo]

Dacia Spring fits the bill there.

[@michelcote]

I agree 200 miles winter at -15C is all that it's needed however, that translate to over 300 miles advertised range.

[@TheGeoffers08]

We are currently renting one of these, and, as much as I think it's a lovely car, I am utterly confused by the milage we are getting. We are getting about 60miles on a full charge. Yes after charge it says 160miles, but as we start on a journey, with it in ECO mode, and driving carefully with the meter constantly in ECO, boom! The range drops like a stone. I'd love anyone to give us an idea of what we are doing wrong to get such poor performance, as, as car, I love it