Kat Von D is Christian Now

[@samanthag6077]

I hate when people act like they can’t be racist because they’re “xyz” heritage. Trust me, my Cuban side of my family is incredibly racist.

[@o.mcneely4424]

I had an ex whose mum was Jamaican while his dad was Nigerian, and SWEET JESUS, MARY AND JOSEPH AND THE WEE DONKEY. 😳 The stuff his father’s family said about the Jamaican side was appalling, just astoundingly hateful. I know folks from wealthy African countries can be rude towards Black folks from the Americas but goddamn, this was a whole new level.

[@meow-sr2bl]

Yeah any race/ethnicity can be ungodly racist

[@Cam0105]

No, literally. My family is mixed but I can tell you, latinos can be racist especially the white ones. Not really an excuse.

[@arianna5270]

Any Latine person who can’t pass a paper bag test will tell you being a Latine has NOTHING to do with whether or not you are racist.

[@littlewingmyoho]

and the wee donkey 😂

[@tara8257]

Can't imagine marrying somebody who throws his own daughter under the bus and then abandons her for being SA'd by HIS OWN FRIENDS

[@sophia-marieyoung6773]

Easy to imagine if you're a trash human.

[@nikkydalby7126]

This made my jaw drop! As a woman, how did Kat stick by his side during this?! His poor daughter 😢

[@Zectifin]

I hate to doubt anyones claims on sexual harrasment, but the story that was always told was she was let go from Miami Ink because she was constantly drunk. Then she tells about how she was treated horribly in that camp, then she tries to deny her husband's daughters claims. Like either shes a terrible hypocrite or shes a liar and both are terrible.

[@JDMimeTHEFIRST]

Sounds very Old Testament. Like stoning women who were raped.

[@PanthORandPonAY]

THIS. Being such a huge fan of hers and slowly having all of her horrid views and actions spewed into the ether was so awful. So disappointing. She's so lame.

[@larissabrglum3856]

"I can't be racist, my dad is German Argentinian" is a wild thing to suggest

[@zentaurus71]

Not every German was a Nazi

[@Kawamura2]

@@zentaurus71 and not every nazi was German.

[@mirsan6705]

Anyone can be racist

[@g.h.7661]

😂😂😂😂

[@stefanforrer2573]

@@zentaurus71 germans didn't flee to argentinia after the war because they weren't nazis......

[@heatherweather8491]

The whole town knows who she is. My friend is from there. Shes not well liked. The Victorian mansion is essentially a historical building and people aren’t thrilled that she’s tearing it up. It’s also an incredibly poverty stricken town, so a millionaire moving in and doing this is… a choice.

[@tracietrog3426]

Underrated comment. Thanks for the insight. My theory is that she's running out of money. She had a mansion in California that was expensive to maintain. Probably cheaper for her to live in Indiana.

[@hallievanoutryve3109]

Thank you for the info. Dang, she has no shame. I assumed it would have been P at least a upper-middle income area. Silly me .

[@americanpopprincess8]

Ikr! I have family in Indiana, that whole state is one small town. She mentioned her pastor lived in Louisville, which would indicate that she is in *southern* Indiana. That region is stuck in the 1890s 😮

[@btbudgets]

@@americanpopprincess8 Yep, sure is. Grew up there. Outside Bloomington, the whole area is very poor, very rural, and very prejudiced.

[@spOOkytimes]

This was my immediate thought. I am from a rural area and grew up poor. These idiots always rolled into town pissing everyone off by acting like everyone else are the weird ones and they all should conform to the giant snob.

[@nuloo]

Rafael's stance on his daughter being SAed by his friends is HORRIFIC. That's truly one of the most disgusting, deplorable things I have ever heard...

[@ARareAndDifferentTune_13]

In that article him saying that he hadn’t seen his daughter in 4 years because of “what she did to me” and in a way he owes her because “if you hadn’t hurt me that way you hurt me” and that she fucked up his life over “what you did” actually made me physically ill. Absolute trash human being and I feel so badly for that poor girl

[@spOOkytimes]

@@ARareAndDifferentTune_13imagine saying that to _your daughter_ . That's something a child should be saying to their parent. What a pathetic man child. Dude hasn't mentally progressed past being a 14 year old bully.

[@xwinoxrhinox]

yeah i used to be a huge kat von d fan but she’s been dead to me ever since i found out how trash her husband is. absolutely inexcusable. i hope his daughter has a peaceful life and stays tf away from them. god help their current child.

[@freyabaade2810]

I know we use that word a lot, but damn. That man is a narcissist

[@deadeyes4626]

Kats:pick-me comment section also was horrid “I guess you are what you hang with” can’t believe I used to look up to these monsters 👹👺 *perfect wedding setup*

[@babyvia6712]

Kay’s father being a German-Argentinian and Kat hanging with Nazis is like cosmic checkers

[@1MagicalBoy33]

She really didn’t put the pieces together, history repeats itself LOL

[@maggiee.3589]

Ughhh. I get so sick of ppl saying all German Argentinians are Nazis. There was a massive German population there before WWII, that’s why some of them fled there.

[@violetblythe6912]

@@maggiee.3589 right. There were a lot of Germans immigrating out of Germany before WWII because of how destitute the country was at that time. But apparently people think no Germans ever left the country before WWII…

[@annyjones7228]

​@@maggiee.3589 butbit wasn't just 'some' Germans who fled to Argentina. Argentina was known as THE country to go to as a NSDAP member... especially the high ranking ones...sooo you can be sick of it all you like. The fact is after WWII Nazis fled to Argentina.

[@DavidSilverPrecious]

​​@maggiee.3589 I agree in that the stereotype as a whole is problematic, but as someone who's heard my share of Aryan jokes based on country if origin, looks, etc, I've never felt a systemic hate or had to *endure* any lasting hardships based on that stereotype/ joke. That said.. I'm guessing op of this thread wouldn't have made the comment had Kat not hung with say, actual Nazi cosplayers and racists.. just maybe not the best way to shutter the whole Argentinian Germans are Nazis thing.

[@darkstarr984]

Uhhh… I’d be willing to believe the “Lolita” color was named for the fashion (which I love) if she didn’t also have “Underage Red.” That makes it sus.

[@DeaDiabola]

EW THE FUCK

[@ww3196]

UNDERAGE WHAT??????

[@Maialeen]

@ww3196 Watch the video you're commenting on.

[@hamburgercheeseburgerbigma8991]

"UNDERAGE RED" IS WIIILLDD

[@rhino1876]

I know why it comes across so crazy but if I remember correctly she named it after how she wore a similar red lipstick when she wasn’t allowed and she was pretty young. But that’s only if you take her word.

[@kathiebradley5881]

I just looked it up and his daughter was 12 to 14 when this shit when down. Disgusting. He sounds like a true narcissist, poor me, look what you did to me victimizing himself so he doesn't have to take responsibility for the dangerous position he put his child in.

[@alexbee3736]

and Kat's literal response was "no one was 13, no one got r*****." that is a disgusting reaction. so sad.

[@sweetlorikeet]

Thinking about the 13 year olds I know, this absolutely destroys my heart. She was a little kid! And her father brought dangerous men around her, and then those men abused her, and then her father blamed her for it!

[@PerpetualJoy]

Idk if you can be prosecuted for emotional abuse, but it's what this guy deserves for treating his daughter like that

[@jlconnors7872]

Yeah, I hope she cuts off all connections to both of those a$$hole$.

[@mermaidcatching]

@@alexbee3736which is so crazy bc she was in fact 13. What even does Kat mean then? Or was she just trying to lie about the girl’s age?

[@missinchoate]

Every time i see a rich person moving away from their rich person hub city makes me feel like they want to evade taxes…

[@hardrays]

also, when i see rich people being poor i know its just to avoid taxes in the first place. homeless guy is a genius. king of the road.

[@melissaelliott2966]

You see California lately? Isn't it smart to get out of that trash pit?

[@mymia731]

Yep

[@mymia731]

@@melissaelliott2966 I live here and it’s no trashier than anywhere else. She’s far more likely to be murdered in a red state than L.A.

[@melissaelliott2966]

@@mymia731 I'm sorry but most areas don't have homeless taking dumps on their sidewalks and tent cities all over town. Not everyplace is that bad. Maybe you need to get your head out of your butt and go travel a little. California is effed. The ocean should just swallow it up

[@CthulhusBFF2]

Her and Jeffrey Star are classic examples of the Try-Hard Edgelord to Conservative pipeline

[@sweetlorikeet]

It's less of a pipeline and more of a Venn Diagram with a massive overlapping section, every one of those dudes I've ever known has been deeply racist

[@spOOkytimes]

YES. All of the crappy makeup names were a cry for attention for being "so cool and not giving a f***". Same with her loser husband's swastika tattoo. They are just trolls, not actual bad asses. Bad ass goths don't antagonize innocent people.

[@everrgreen122]

They were always right-winged conservatives imo, but tried to hide it by being total posers. They still would be, if it isn’t very kewl right now to be an open bigot. Mark my words: when the next trend arrives, for one they’ll be in their fifties, but they will still latch on to it in no time. That still won’t change what and who they really are though🤷🏽‍♀️.

[@everrgreen122]

@@sweetlorikeetAgreed!

[@rishaa682]

Do you think they might be trolling with the christian thing?

[@annawallace3383]

I am stopping this video at 31:28 to leave this comment. There are very few things that have ever broken my heart more than this man dismissing his daughter's abuse as if it hurt HIM. There are no words. Other than I genuinely hope the victim in question has gotten the support and love that she needs. These people are FUCKING disgusting. Thank you, Jen, for bringing them to light.

[@sunshine3914]

All the while I’m picturing her to be 20something, which is bad enough! I don’t know the guy, but I better never run into him.

[@Night_Skinned]

Yeah. That made me wanna vomit. I was trying to give her some grace but there's no excuse for not condemning her baby daddy's treatment of his daughter. Hopefully this is just another one of her many evolutions she'll eventually abandon. Cuz, sis, this ain't it.

[@Guineapigsreadingbooks]

@@sunshine3914even without the whole assault of it, his reaction was ridiculous. Imagine your daughter does something you don’t agree with (sleeping with your friend, which would have had a strange power dynamic even if she was in her late twenties instead of early teens) and instead of you talking about it in private and behaving like her father, offering guidance and forgiveness, you run around telling newspapers about it and shun her for four years. That is not the behavior of a father, that is the behavior of a possessive Highschool boyfriend. Which is all before considering her age at the time, and the FACT THAT IT WAS FUCKING ASSAULT.

[@AbigailArwen]

​@Guineapigsreadingbooks yes! Kids are WHOLE A$$ SEPARATE PEOPLE! And if that poor girl was underage (I don't know the details but I believe it) then her father should have rained hellfire and the law down on his former 'friends', not write a book and a music album. What a $h!th3@d

[@CanIswearinmyhandle]

@@Guineapigsreadingbooks What was her age at the time?

[@Zectifin]

the problem with the cotton field picture wasn't the picture. its just a field and it makes a pretty backdrop. The problem was she left a caption saying "let others do the hard work" and had a dark brown flexing arm emoji. thats just not some dumb mistake, she had to have done that shit on purpose.

[@justinabean94]

The shit Rafael said about his daughter always fills me with rage. I had forgotten how bad it was until hearing it again now. Disgusting

[@Annie_Annie__]

The thing I’d very nearly forgotten that this dredged up is all the people that were defending Rafael and Kat. I remember talking about this online and being absolutely disgusted, and people (mostly men, but not all) claiming that the _child_ was the one in the wrong. I had to explain grooming and power imbalance countless times because these folks had literally never heard of either term. It was exhausting and looking back, I probably shouldn’t have wasted the energy.

[@jaybee4118]

@@Annie_Annie__there’s plenty of people that still believe Lolita is about an underage girl*seducing and using a man, rather than a grown man r***** a child. They miss it’s written from Humbert’s point of view and all the clues are there, though they are less obvious in the films where they age her up a few years etc because the directors were creeps, frankly. (*it makes me feel dirty to even write that in this context!)

[@taranullius9221]

That's the real issue. There's so much there but people cry about a mildly edgy lipstick name.

[@writergrrrl]

@@jaybee4118 In the book, Humbert uses language to seduce the reader to his point of view. It's a way of illustrating how this monster is so persuasive and also self-deluded. It's only at the very end that he admits his faults.

[@caitwon]

I was waiting for it to be talked about, I knew all the details, and yet, my blood pressure skyrocketed when Jen started talking about it🙃

[@OptimisticAudience]

I just did some math. Leafar’s daughter was born in 1994 (according to him). His book was published in 2011. Therefore his daughter would have been 17 when he published his book about her. It is literally impossible for her to have been over 18 with the information he has provided.

[@arieliskinser4985]

Ok thanks for doing the math cuz I was wondering about this

[@jrochest4642]

And he would have written the book the year before publication, when she was 16. So she was 15? 14? when she "betrayed" him by getting molested by his rat bastard friends.

[@bl4581]

Mexican American here! Racism is rampant in Mexico idk what she’s on about lol.

[@4DRC_]

[Hank Hill voice] You’re not making Christianity better you’re just making tattooing worse.

[@xxthatsnotmexx]

Omg this is perfect lol 😂💯

[@Anarchyinthe603]

Chef's kiss; that was freakin' GOLD🤣🤣🤣

[@sentientplant9658]

I can hear this and it's beautiful

[@megynrn4721]

Hahahahah!!!

[@MummyBrown]

😂 This spoke to me on many levels!

[@meganmccann2000]

"Just fucking pink" is a great lipstick color name.

[@justkiddin84]

😂It actually is!

[@anxiousfoodperson8116]

"her father was German Argentinian" oh my word

[@audreyraj5626]

I would like to say, being POC of any kind (Asian, black, latinx etc) does not mean you can’t be racist. I’m Asian and some of the most racist people I’ve ever met in my life are my Asian relatives.

[@jennifertemple175]

I agree. The most racist people that I know are POC. Including some of my husband’s relatives (he is Asian).

[@maryvampiregirl666]

I'm mexican and i agree

[@purplenurple6278]

I don't think poc can be racist but prejudice even black folks are too. but this girl is wht😂

[@jubbine]

@@purplenurple6278 POC can absolutely be racist toward other POC. Hell, even people of their same group. Because racism is systemic, people who are victims to it can also be caught in the system and perpetuate it. Agreed that she's white tho lol

[@thepragmaticwitch2608]

@@purplenurple6278anyone is capable of being racist. Not everyone experiences systemic racism yeah, but that’s not what is being talked about.

[@notlmm]

Her dad who is German Argentinian MISSIONARY in Mexico??!! Well…if that doesn’t tell me enough of what I need to know of her racism

[@Hair8Metal8Karen]

It's not so much a dog whistle as it is a dog siren.

[@notlmm]

I know that’s right 😂

[@reinasherman8009]

Right! When I heard that I was just thinking it makes so much sense.

[@lilafeldman8630]

German Argentinian? Could mean one of 2 things.

[@emiliadawl]

German-Argentinian heritage is such an eyebrow-raiser. It's so incredible it's almost a meme.

[@Troubled_waters]

I appreciate you taking a moment to address the “troubled teen” industry. My mother had my older sister kidnapped in the middle of the night and sent to Fiji. I recently found files from The Coral Academy that detailed more of her abuse and I’m horrified.

[@StephieGsrEvolution]

💔💔💔

[@lordtette]

so sorry to your sister😟

[@genesishale7523]

As a representative of the “Tattoo Artists with unhinged fundie obsession” gang, we sincerely thank you for your service.

[@disembodied1273]

Hopefully I will be joining that gang soon 😂😂😂 already have the fixation on fundies now I just need an apprenticeship

[@MissDarlaDeville]

Tattoo artist who love fundie for the win

[@indykenzie1732]

We salute you.

[@sarahrathje4407]

Nothing is more exciting to me than the idea of sitting for a tat and being able to talk about my special interest (fundie snark). What's your insta

[@cantocant2346]

She is most definitely going down a right-wing problematic path. It seems so comfortable for her, too.

[@moonrose333]

hasnt she always been?

[@crazysavvyloverlee]

Probably feels completely normal if compared to how she was raised

[@elisac447]

She's done BEEN a Nazi

[@rachel_sj]

@@moonrose333She’s always been Problematic, but now shes doing it in a Jesus/Right Wing Shade of Problematic 👄 💅🏼

[@SueC]

She’s always been right wing. The Christian part goes with the rest of the Xtian nationalists.

[@keesht7933]

I was absolutely done with her when she married & defended Leahpar's 💩 behavior toward his own daughter. He still makes me furious. He sounds like a jaded ex who was cheated on instead of her FATHER. How was she even in that situation & around them??? 😤😤😤

[@keesht7933]

she lies, a lot 😳 & easily influenced toward hate & prejudice.... maybe that's why she chose catholicism. She doesn't know what goth means past esthetic. I didn't know I could be even more irritated by her. You didn't plant the seed for me to have such a strong opinion. I've had it for a long time.

[@nikkydalby7126]

I couldn’t believe that part! His daughter must feel so alone 💔

[@littlestbroccoli]

Maybe he is? Horrible but dads do the wrong things sometimes.

[@nikkydalby7126]

@@littlestbroccoli maybe he is what?

[@littlestbroccoli]

@@nikkydalby7126 His daughter's jaded ex 🤮🤢

[@LilerArt]

As an American-indian Hindu, we KNOW not to use that symbol anymore. Yes it may be ok in your own personal home prayer altar area or in India itself where it's more known for its religious connections. But not anywhere in public in the US. It sucks that it is more widely known for the bad history but that's the truth and it is what it is. You just don't prop that symbol up anymore.

[@chocaren4602]

In other asian countries they do have many shrines and places with the symbol. Is just depends the country to be honest.

[@amethystdream8251]

Idk I feel like we Hindus need to stop letting these other cultures define us. I'm an American citizen and I haven't felt particularly welcome or valued. My own family has been very confused on their own identity, so much so that my reclaiming and learning of my heritage created a rift 🤦🏾‍♀️ Who are we really? How do we define ourselves? I don't care if someone else has a selfish interest in me being associated with villainy, if the way I've lived is not that of a villian, then it's not my label to carry.

[@AM-pr5hl]

honestly, this isn't true at all. Also American Indian and I've seen it at temples in the States and at weddings. Also the swastika he chose is the one that has the six pointed star inside of it (star of david) inside of it so (if you have a western view point) not only does that show he's not antisemitic but that symbol (swastika and six pointed star) is seen all throughout east Asia. There's more than enough about prayers that is annoying, I don't think we need to include this one. And I think it's frustrating people are complaining about antisemitism when in fact they're the ones being ignorant.

[@LilerArt]

@@AM-pr5hl To be fair my family is super mixed. My dad is white American. My Maasi married a German and lives in Germany. I'm technically 1st generation American, BUT my mom's family moved to the US when she was 12. So my experience is probably heavily influenced by all of these factors. I think it may also depend on what part of India any family is from and how that influences the symbols that are important from that region.

[@BewarethePurpleOne]

​@@amethystdream8251 Im a native american. I can relate to not wanting to be associated with a different culture's horrible appropriation of important symbols. But maybe let's take a step back and look at what the actual consequences of reembracing a symbol like that would be. You wouldn't be fighting back against any dominant power structure. You'd be harming a different marginalized group and making it easier for legitimate nazis to hide. So... it sucks. And it's not fair. But the consequences of "not letting other's cultures define us" when it comes to the swastika would be more harmful than anything.

[@IFSpecialist]

I’m sorry, but a high school dropout (who’s apparently involved with neo-Nazis and right wing anti-VAX ) home schooling her child is probably a very bad idea. Especially since she comes from an abusive background.

[@dollinterrupted]

‘I never really thought about stuff before until my husband started showing me stuff during lockdown’ 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@FolkTrashBitxh]

​@dollinterrupted yeah thru the whole video I just kept going "oh so she gets all her thoughts and opinions from her husband. That sounds healthy"

[@adelelouise]

​@@dollinterruptedbig yikes 😅

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

She is an abusive background...

[@iciajay6891]

Her partner also blamed his 13-14 year old daughter for her assault. Committed by one of his friends on her. And Kat supported him. They are disgusting people.

[@AlexandriaV]

That former LA party person to midwest conservative pipeline is alive & well I see. I mean, her former bff Jeffree Star bought a ranch in like Montana & sells Yak Meat now & KVD herself has pretty quietly erased the "VEGAN AS FVCK" & other markers from her bio so I guess the being superficially into veganism thing isn't worth squeezing cash out of anymore. Also she has a pretty solid record of hanging out with some of the most sus people in popular alt music. Like, seeing people I formerly liked but was kind of catching bad vibes on such as Wesley Eisold attending parties at her house during COVID with captions KVD & Rafael posted about "super spreading the love" was enough to make me reconsider who I'm spending money still supporting musically.

[@spacelunacorn]

Jeffree Starr's ranch is actually in Wyoming, not Montana. My sister lives in Cheyenne and has friend in Casper, the closest town to his ranch and where the Yak meat and makeup store is, and the locals are really freaking annoyed by him.

[@icantwiththis]

​@@spacelunacornoh well he's a local there too. And he provides jobs as a business owner.

[@lono285]

@@spacelunacorn We really, really are. A coworker of mine in Australia said “Oh, like Jeffree Star,” when I told him I’m from Casper. I hung up on him (in my mind).

[@caitealyssa]

I'm from the area that Kat moved to in southern Indiana, from a town closely neighboring Vevay where she lives now. My local two cents I wanted to add: 1) The bar for homeschooling in Indiana is super low. When I grew up in a southern baptist church, a lot of my peers were homeschooled. They didn't have to have an actual teacher instructing them (most of their parents weren't teachers, or if they were only early elementary), most used ABEKA which is a young Earth Christian program. A lot of them used very old outdated material, the state really doesn't care about the quality of education. 2) Most people here don't know her and don't have much of an opinion of her, honestly I'd say the only people who'd recognize her are younger folk who happen to be familiar with her makeup line. She has been regularly been spotted out and about and no one bothers her, and she doesn't do much in the community either. 3) Kat's anti-vaxx, dog whistle, government can't tell me what to do mentality is very much the norm here. The "Come as you are! But only as we say" thought process is how a lot of people live here. 4) This is more of a personal anecdote, but the house that Kat bought, Schenck Mansion, is a historic building and was a bed and breakfast prior to her purchasing it. My mother-in-law frequently did weekend trips to the mansion, as they couldn't afford to go on proper vacations, taking out-of-town trips to relax there was one of her favorite things. After Kat bought it, my mother-in-law is her public enemy number 1, and will never forgive Kat for taking one of her favorite places from her.

[@savshady15]

Whoa this is all super interesting, ty for sharing! I absolutely feel your mother-in-law I would be so mad 😂

[@scz1770]

I love your mother in law lol

[@ashleylanthorn3732]

Tell your mother-in-law that I love her dearly

[@divatesteddivaapproved]

My Dad's family is from Vevay. I still have family there. I agree with everything you have said here.

[@espeon871]

Mother in law so real for that

[@gothic_nix]

As a goth, I find conservative "goths" so funny. Goth is music based, and the music is generally politically left wing. Goth is also notoriously against the church as a system and criticizes it a lot. Obviously, you can be a Christian goth but not one that defends the church and it's abusive systems. Also, her using poor as an insult against her "friends" is so ironic because goth originated from the working class who were fed up with capitalism exploiting them and the traditional lifestyle that was expected from society.

[@chrisc3571]

Thank you for this. I learned something today.

[@sweetsour4375]

This is just reminding me how much I love goth culture. It's really too bad the music doesn't appeal to me, because the politics definitely do.

[@taranullius9221]

@@chrisc3571 We typically wear crosses or religious iconography to be disrespectful or controversial on purpose. You're not going to find a lot of conservative goths. You might get some WS though. There's a lot of the Viking rune pagan junk in some subgenres and that gets the Naz in as well as the draw of a lot of very wht chicks. Probably bigger issues in Industrial/EBM w/that (though the bands are also overwhelmingly left-wing and far more political than "waa waa my soul hurts") Metal is where you want to avoid completely.

[@taranullius9221]

Gothic as a musical genre is really quite weak on overt politics (yes I am biased I lean more towards the PVC and EBM but I'm not wrong).

[@truckerdave8465]

@@taranullius9221Idk about ‘overwhelmingly left wing’ esp when you include industrial and EBM. A ton of popular bands were outright Nazis and goths have a long history of being racist af. Look at Morrissey. KMFDM. Ministry. The Swans I think. Hell And One loooves nazi imagery. There’s A LOT.

[@kelpymckelps]

It’s weird how he refers to his daughter, like some random girl in the scene that had sex with his friends, and not like his own flesh and blood that was dealing with something traumatic

[@steviebeevie]

If a parent can't stop talking about how their child "betrayed" them, I can guarantee said parent FUCKED UP. Even if she had consented, how do you see that as an issue with your daughter and not your grown male friends making a move on her 🤔 I'll 100% judge her on her partners bc he has an obvious type

[@StephieGsrEvolution]

Yeah he's a horrible "father" for that! And any woman who can't empathize with a confused teenage girl is just garbage to me.

[@fabulousporcupine3828]

The ”no one was 13”… She was somewhere between 12-14. Still a CHILD. It’s absurd to defend a father who wouldn’t speak to his daughter for YEARS after being abused by HIS friends.

[@steviebeevie]

@@StephieGsrEvolution right like we know how grooming works now, even if she was an adult who "consented" (which, it sounds like neither is true unfortunately) a normal parent would STILL look at the fucked up power dynamics at play between a grown adult and their friends child

[@moustik31]

Right? Friends, plural. Only rotten sexism patriarchal bs can warp the facts into making his underaged daughter the perpetrator and his grown-*ss friends the victims. Excuse me while I puke.

[@Kayla-rd5jd]

@@fabulousporcupine3828 seriously! even if she was 17 or even 18, it may be legal but it’s still fucking gross. any man who wants to fuck his best friends daughter is disgusting & it’s even more vile that she was just a kid. he can burn in hell, the fact that he puts that on her is absolutely sickening

[@pfcheather]

I had a friend just like this. One day we were talking politics and she said she wasn't smart enough to understand it all. Then she met a dude and within 6 months she was a raging Christian right Trumper.

[@Tree-House69]

Cis men aim for people with that type of mentality, because they know they can make them comply with anything, their own personal and constant yes-men, it's sad and grim.

[@StephieGsrEvolution]

That's exactly what I was thinking this whole time. I think Kat has a tremendous artistic intelligence, but she lacks critical thinking skills in a lot of other areas.

[@Cynthia-hk2oc]

Well she was right

[@realtalk6195]

As KVD noted, although her husband encouraged her towards Christianity, he's not as religiously devout as she is.

[@Exp_626_loser]

As someone who has stepped further and further away from religion, it's insane seeing how people are just all of a sudden becoming Christians and I feel like this empowers a lot of these transphobic, homophobic and racist pastors to say the things they say because famous people endorse their beliefs.

[@lilithdeath1388]

Jesus actually hated religion.. just remember to be a good person ! 😉

[@Muhluri]

Yep. It’s one of the reasons I recently left. They love to act like a peaceful and loving group but secretly they harbour hate and want to use their religion to take away the rights of others (just like in the good old days)

[@WhoWellOk]

@@lilithdeath1388hi was Kat like a low rank witch?

[@Liitebulb]

You know how many people think that. They live their life on their own terms until the age pf 40 then turn around and say I want to join a religion, and this is why you should too.

[@dallassallad7728]

As soon as I hear German-Argentinian I’m like… when did your dad immigrate 👀

[@stink6974]

that part lmaoooo… it definitely points to a * certain belief * rather than away from it

[@thirty_ish2890]

Hahaha, I had the same reaction

[@Annie_Annie__]

Same reaction here. Though, I was wondering when her grandfather immigrated. Kat is my age, so if her dad is just a bit older than mine (my dad was quite young when I was born, so that’s not unlikely), her grandfather would be around the right age.

[@sadem1045]

Unfortunately, history is definitely a thing

[@ewarrior9776]

Her dad was a Boy from Brazil! That racism was a family affair.

[@spicymayo623]

She reminds me of my friend from high school that would change her style and entire personality based on who she was dating at the time. I felt bad for my friend even as a teenager. This is a grown a$$ woman. She still doesn’t know herself. It’s sad.

[@hallievanoutryve3109]

I was thinking the same thing. It is sad.

[@FS-qk5uq]

It doesn't stop either my grandma was doing this too. She literally raised my mom not to say certain racist words, then decades later had no problem saying them in front of me and my mom cause the man she was dating was a racist. My mom got so pissed, I think they argued about it.

[@bekkahstyles7569]

Being Latina doesn’t automatically mean you aren’t white. Its an ethnicity not a race. For her to say she is a “shade of brown” is crazy lmao

[@hardrays]

is white a race?

[@Viteaification]

she needs to read up of the history of Argentina at least before claiming it lol

[@sweetbitterpink]

I've noticed that people get confused about that a lot, especially in North America. Many people don't understand that latino is NOT a race and say things like: "There are white, indigenous, black, asian and latina women", ugh. You can be latino and of ANY race. What is so hard for these people to understand?

[@trasher_gooby9921]

​@sweetbitterpink the education system here is a failure 😭 so many things I know now have been self taught. So many people r so close minded they forget to actually learn things about others

[@lollipop2734]

Uhhh what? There is only one race, the human race. People who have darker skin aren't inhuman or vice versa.

[@joshua-we9xr]

She is chasing that money. That's what she's always done. She is one of those libertarians that doesn't believe that libertarians are just conservatives under a cloak of anti-tax.

[@chelscara]

“I’m not a pedo, I just join all their groups and make creepy jokes on my make up about it 🤪”

[@noellewithane6111]

100%

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

@@chelscara She does the same with Nazi iconography. Tried to distance herself from it, but.................. why did she get into it in the first place?

[@485OCEAN]

ding ding ding🎯🎯

[@maryvampiregirl666]

Grifters gonna grift lmao

[@kriss1956]

From sinner to smug judge, they grow up so fast. She'll be a big fish in an icky little pond cult.

[@divatesteddivaapproved]

My Dad's family is from the town where KVD is living, so I cracked up when I found out she bought the house there. The house that she bought was quite nice, it was not a rundown ramshackle place. It was all covered in Indianapolis Monthly last year. They showed photos of the inside of the house and it had been updated to be a B&B. She probably could have done some cosmetic changes and moved in. There is not much in Vevay. I think they have one stoplight, maybe two. There is also a huge Amish population in the area. I wonder how much time she really spends in Vevay and how much time she is spending in Louisville, KY because it's about an hour away? Does she drive there to get all of her vegan groceries? Because I think they might have an IGA and possibly a locally owned tiny grocery store. She could get some decent produce in the summer/fall but specialty vegan items- better get in the car and drive to Kentucky or over to Madison, IN, but you would have better luck in Louisville.

[@vadalia3860]

"I don't want those crutches in my life. I just want Jesus," imagine saying this with a straight face & not realizing the irony.

[@Cbbartelt]

The irony of the fact that crutches are necessary mobility devices that give people access and freedom and she’s using that word in the literal opposite way that it makes sense?

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@Cbbartelt More the irony, that in the realm of spiritual crutches religion is the motherlode of crutches and Jesus is one of the worst sorts you can buy into...

[@MichiganCrimeTime]

@@AvaAdore-wx5ggbecause they manipulate the vulnerabilities in people and part of the programming is evangelizing…

[@emekennede]

Jesus is a bad crutch if you are using it instead of getting treatment. Many people do this for various reasons some valid some not.

[@vadalia3860]

@@Cbbartelt The irony was that she appears to be using Jesus and Christianity for exactly the same reasons she previously used the occult stuff. She basically said "I don't want those crutches in my life. I just want this new crutch in my life."

[@kaorufan8]

Kat's dad being a german argentinian says everything you need to know. Racist white guys marrying LatAm women, especially Mexican women, is incredibly disturbingly common. Kat's never not been a problem, so none of this is surprising. When she talks about uow much she loves trump or whoever the next fascist is, it will be the least shocking thing ever (and my bf will owe me a trip to my favourite grocery store)

[@bebeenderson7863]

Argentinian tend to be EXTREMELY racist

[@AJ-uj5nz]

It also implies she’s descended from Nazis if she’s German-Argentinian lmao

[@longlivebeans]

My first question anytime I hear “I’m German Argentinian” is what was your grandpa doing during WW2? 👀

[@sisuka6505]

I'd comment that the German Argentinian thing can be a little misleading overall, bc you know who else has German names and many did their best to leave the country? Jews and other persecuted groups. In this case though, considering her last name indicates more nobility than marginalization in German society, her parents were clearly rich and everything else she seems to have picked up on somewhere despite having a high school education, yeah I think you're right about her.

[@nomanejane5766]

Yeah her mom definitely looks indigenous/ meztiso

[@corbanekarel3692]

Frankly as someone with some background with witchcraft, the Occult and Tarot, those go as deep as you make them and can be used to help you improve your life and find some guidance, as much as it can be used to run away from it. Someone with a surface level and unhealthy approach to spirituality while into occultism will just repeat the same mistakes with the Bible if going Christian. Her comment about how those people are broke and in pain and so on was amusing to me because frankly, unless we're talking mental illness (which is when you get dysfunctional), everybody has issues. Like if I go to a Church and listen to the gossip and confessions, I will see at least some of them as ''broke and sad'' basically.

[@WhoWellOk]

Are you a low ranking witch? Because most claimed witches have like the fake power or hella low ranked it’s as if the ancestors with highest rankings don’t exist anymore

[@rowanrobbins]

I believe Kat's Christianity is as real as her Pagan/Witch (or whatever she called it) beliefs were. When it becomes too difficult or doesn't fulfill her needs, she'll drop that, too. That probably will happen to her marriage, too.

[@maryvampiregirl666]

and as soon as she gets bored of her Christian phase she'll drop it and latch onto something else...

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

She's quite the dilettante, n'est-ce pas?

[@FS-qk5uq]

She's older, older people tend to stick to their phases longer than younger if they ever leave Also since being conservative means she can be as unapologetically edgy and simple minded as she wants while having a built in defensive base to defend her against any and all criticism and be willing to pay her to talk more than think she's not likely ever to leave now

[@eveningsalone]

I said the same thing while watching this. It’ll be interesting to see what happens as she wades further

[@kiraeckard7625]

Seeing as how her husband goes through religion like fads, I'm sure he'll change his opinion whenever he's bored and she'll happily follow suit. But I also agree with FS, since they're older it's likely they may stick to it for awhile. I've noticed a lot of people go back to the religion they were born into when they have kids. Christianity is pretty hardwired into people who grew up with it and they go the 'safe' route of christianity while their kids are young and they start thinking about things that gave them stability growing up themselves. I'll be interested to see if she sticks with it the older her son gets.

[@Ynattirb73]

I was raised SDAs (7th day Adventists) and the religion is what I would consider very very conservative and fringe. They constantly told us that we weren't a cult and told us what to say when people said we were 😂 totally not suspicious at all. I'm not shocked she didnt rejoin them

[@TheWobblyQueen]

Theirs more money in selling to Baptists

[@phoenixgirl70]

I guess there’s different kinds. My husbands best friend married one. He moved from Canada to Florida for work and was set up with her. I hate small talk and I can have a bawdy sense oh humor but she’s wonderful. She makes jokes about things and I don’t think she goes to church every week. But she’s very sweet too, like certain Christians in the south. They’re not supposed to dance or drink but the wedding everyone was dancing and drinking. She told me about the religion but that was over 20 years ago. It didn’t sound alarming to me. And I’m pretty good at getting a gut feeling when somethings not right to me. Yes I’m very bored right now.😂

[@CHiCguitar]

Pretty high control too from what I recall?

[@fabnid]

Looking for this comment! I always wondered if Jen had looked at the SDA church since it is also a high demand religion and with a fundamentalist background. I come from an SDA background myself, so I wondered what's Jen's take of the organization would be compared to the other organizations covered in other videos.

[@Ynattirb73]

@@CHiCguitar in my experience yes

[@Proleroid]

Tired of rich, ignorant people who constantly throw the “so many people hate, I’m just doing me” narrative to write off any criticism, accountability or even learning and growth. In other words (or emojis), 🗑️ but here for the commentary 👏😂

[@bebeenderson7863]

If she hadn’t lost her company she would not be going on this Christian campaign 😂

[@arotisseriechicken]

I ended up at the sister facility of Provo Canyon after a bunch of mental hospital stints as a kid. Hearing you say that what we went through was abusive and wrong - and that we in turn deserve the world - means so, so much to me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for including that part.

[@moonlighthowling666]

Did you go to Heritage school too?

[@hallievanoutryve3109]

❤❤❤internet hugs❤❤❤

[@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory]

I'm so sorry, that's terrible, i hope youre doing better now :). their sales reps used to come to the smaller statewide agency I came from. We didn't send kids out of state so it was weird that they had such an active marketing system. I was warned they were abusive, and even in-state, the for profit agency turned out to be vile. Residential care can be good, if the program is good and if residential is the right level of care. Both elements get ignored way too much.

[@arotisseriechicken]

@@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory i totally agree! it was tricky because I definitely needed an inpatient environment out of the town I was in to heal and grow, and I do believe that can be done in a healthy productive way. But the places with ulterior motives and abusive practices seem to be just so prevalent and pushy/good at convincing desperate parents that their kid will be safe. They really are just everywhere you look. Thank god for the internet these days so we can warn folks about those places. Thank you for your kind words!

[@arotisseriechicken]

@@hallievanoutryve3109 thank you internet friend! This was the first youtube comment I've left i think so i had no idea anybody saw it until just now! haha. oops

[@IndigoFireFandubs]

We had one of those "I totally practiced witchcraft then converted to Christianity" grifters come to our school. He claimed that when he first converted, Satan sent a wolf to his house 😂 didnt really have the intended effect. As a brainwashed little child i thought, "well, if I 'sin' and practice witchcraft one day, I better not ever stop, I'll get wolves at my house!"

[@lordtette]

💀💀 If I had someone say this during the height of Twilight. I'd be on it

[@WhoWellOk]

@@lordtetteI mean let’s say it is real most would be scared because you have no control over it

[@dijahsyoutubechannel]

even besides the context of it, i cannot fathom how a father can casually use the phrase “f**k my daughter” like that… it’s so gross to hear that

[@hallievanoutryve3109]

Right! And not even an adult daughter. Gives me, ' dad who is oblivious to his emotionally incestous behavior' vibes.

[@dijahsyoutubechannel]

@@hallievanoutryve3109 even if his daughter was an adult, i don't think it would gross me out any less. it's just a gross way to speak about your daughter.

[@mothmangotango]

Kat Von D describing her journey along a radicalization pipeline as her husband getting her into christian faith is so so funny to me considering that the newest "when all else fails" grift is a christian fundamentalist awakening. For Kat it might even be real

[@haveialigned]

Especially when she mentioned that her husband isn't ready to accept Jesus yet or whatever? So he got her into all this but he's not even a Christian himself?

[@francisnopantses1108]

Last bastion of the scoundrel. Cheap grace and a fresh start and you don't even have to give up anything or apologize.

[@nehalilisays]

Reminds me of having to watch "Dead Man Walking" in RE class. It was supposed to teach us about "forgiveness". Like "no matter what kind of horrible crimes you have commited, you can always find a way to God and ask for forgiveness" - Very convenient for people who are not willing to try hard to avoid causing harm in the first place.

[@nickdavidurban]

I thought I recognized that guy! My buddy was supposed to do a show with him before realizing he had a swastika tattoo on his neck. He insisted, "You don't understand, it's Buddhist!" And they were like, "Not since the 1920s, bro."

[@headlessspaceman5681]

He'll feel right at home in Indiana where it might as well be the 1920s

[@bunnybear555]

Kat Von D has always struck me as a woman with very few principles of her own aside from following whatever is Edgy (tm) and “counterculture”. She just straight up isn’t very intelligent.

[@annadrift4]

Nailed it

[@buddhabunnee]

I never really understood why she was popular back then lol, seems pretty shallow when she speaks.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Which fits with her now wearing two blacked out sleeves instead of tats she collected over 20 years... good decision making skills it does not say. SRSLY.. you can think about tatoos and their aesthetical or artistic value whatever you want, but is there anybody that doesn't think blacking out the whole arm to remove your past inks is ugly???

[@Maialeen]

@Ugly_German_Truths Yes, there a tons of people who love blackwork and aren't covering undesired tattoos with it but just have it because they like it for what it is.

[@spa-peggymeatballs4861]

So, so much agree. She seems like she just wants to do whatever feels rebellious at the time and will get her attention. The left seemingly doesn’t want her (for a lot of obvious reasons) so she pivoted like a Dong to ring wing bullshit.

[@nashkenning-ballesteros3457]

OMG! Please do a video on Norma McCorvey. She was the plaintiff in Roe V Wade (AKA Jane Roe). It’s my last semester in acting school and i’m playing her this april and would DIEEE if you could do a video on her!! Lesbian, never had an abortion, went from pro-choice working at an abortion clinic to converting, publicly renouncing her time as Jane Roe and became an alt right activist before revealing right before she died that it was all a lie. i recommend her two books & The Family Roe if you decide to research it :))) pls like to boost if you would like this story covered too!!

[@sharimeline3077]

Dang, I knew a little of that but not that part at the end! Sounds like a good subject for a video.

[@FolkTrashBitxh]

I would love for Jen or maybe Strange Aeons to cover that tbh

[@maryvampiregirl666]

Wait, she lied?

[@arina4387]

This was a wild read from start to finish, holy sh*t

[@aliceinreality7581]

Definitely saving this book to read at some point!! Also commenting because this should be covveredddd

[@nlb1138]

I had to unfollow her when she posted a pic of herself at a Jordan Peterson event....not to mention the shit with her husband, her recanting on veganism, QANON and anti vax shit. I really think her husband has extreme views and he manipulated her worldview and basically brainwashed her to turn far right.

[@milesfurther4395]

The Jordan Peterson stuff is so bizarre. I just don’t get why Kat von d would be a fan at all.

[@kfcoyote]

She was shitty WAY before her current husband 😂

[@houseofaction]

jordan peterson is 100% correct on his views

[@ughestrada]

I really hope the girl who unfortunately had Rafael as a father is doing better. I hope she's cut him and Kat off completely, and that she's surrounded by people who genuinely love and care for her. I used to love Kat in middle/high school, so it really pisses me off that she's said and done such horrible things. Also, if God has a plan for everyone, even trans people, doesn't that mean that them transitioning was apart of that plan all along? And if they're just gonna say it was Satan who interfered and "made" them trans, wouldn't that also mean that God planned or knew that Satan was gonna be involved, and then-oh look, I have a headache now. What was I saying? Ah well, great video, Jen! Your doggo is adorable!

[@mystikbuttcrack4335]

Oh it’s all about “free will” to religious people. God has a plan but satan can interfere and it’s all on you and your free will that god gave you even though he has a plan for everything. But how dare you express your free will in anyway that isn’t what gods plan is for you. That’s how they seem to always have a perfect answer when you do something they don’t like. It’s the perfect system for judgment.

[@dougdimmadome9241]

trans person here - the deeply religious people who used to be in my life (ironically, 7th day adventists) were adamant that i was possessed by a demon whose intention was to distract me from my "heavenly duty" of being heterosexual and having children. fun stuff! little did they know that regardless of gender and sexuality i've always planned to adopt. anyway, i think the justification was that it was part of the plan of Their lives to try and force me into the closet.

[@RedxRiot]

If a person is truly trans, I’m sure God didnt do that on accident. Life’s a journey of self discovery, some people have a lot more to discover than others

[@missmelodies52]

The Paul and Morgan clip is so funny because she joins their side, but it’s not good enough because her style still makes them feel uncomfortable. It’s like Kat spent her life being judged and excluded, so she thought joining the bullies’ side would fix it - but she’ll never really fit in there. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess.

[@CocoLicious]

And she will face this judgement in due time when the online Christians can't instrumentalize her baptism anymore and will go back to their "holier than thou" attitudes. None of those people will see her as an equal.

[@lexp6099]

Licking the boot only means you get to taste it before it fully crushes you.

[@moustik31]

It's wild to me, that she is trying to keke with the very pp (fundie xtians), who like her parents, believe that any form of alternative fashion, body art and listening to (hard) rock music is indication of a demonic possession. It feels like Kat is falling for the traditional gasligthing "we hate the sin, not the sinner".

[@aazhie]

@@lexp6099 Damn what a way to phrase it. Absolutely true, also

[@tinyskullcrusher]

As soon as you said "German-Argentinian" my eyebrows shot up and through the roof

[@hyrulebass]

Didn’t know about her husband’s heinous stance on his own daughters assault or Kat’s justification of r word

[@MsLizzieGurl]

The thing about people like Kat Von D and Brittany Dawn is that they know they messed up but instead of apologizing and reflecting or getting off social media, they become Christian to avoid criticism. If you criticize them it is now YOU being the bad person bc they are just doing and saying what God says. Anything they say, regardless how vile, will be backed up by their Christian audience

[@ARareAndDifferentTune_13]

Really good point, that is spot on

[@xoxocessa]

It’s a scapegoat

[@Oh_my_starz]

This is it! Also, Christianity is just a new grift for them. Kat did the whole tattoo thing (in the same way Brittany did fitness) and now she needs a new audience to make money from.

[@xwinoxrhinox]

yyyyep

[@macietoy4929]

such a good point omg

[@lalababayaga]

Her dad was German... Argentinian ... But we're not allowed to wonder if that side of her family was Nazis? Okay... Haha

[@shyeahright]

Sooooo she threw away all of her “crutches” when she found a shiny new one?? Girl. 🙄

[@MummyBrown]

That’s pretty much all that her life is: Shiny new crutches.

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

Edgelord Pollyanna.

[@jediannie]

Right? When she said that I was like pulleeze, you have a new crutch now and it won't serve you in the end either.

[@yasminfonseca2871]

She talks about being Latina as if it's a race, being Latina just means you were born in Latin America. You can be Latina and be white, black, yellow, whatever you identify as, it's ok and it's one of the million things that makes Latin America so special. Latino is NOT a race and doesn't make you more or less white and/or RACIST. She's just dishonest.

[@nomanejane5766]

It's not a race, but most latinos identify with their nationalities rather than their race.... when people ask me my race I say my nationality

[@kaheivi]

she can kick and scream all day about her “ancestory” but she presents as white so she is. her dad is literally german idg wanting to be something you’re not 😭

[@quemsereu2009]

People looooove using their parents to claim they are Latinos yuck. You are not a Latina, you are white. White white white. Looks white. Acts white. Not born on Latin America. White white white

[@ritternacht]

technically it is an ethnic group moreso than a nationality. and one that HAS been demonstrably discriminated against. plenty of latine people are also brown or mixed. I don't think it's right, but I think we should make it perfectly clear what history she's attempting to weaponize. her proximity to whiteness has Definitely contributed to her bigotry. but I don't think we need to point that out by dismissing the very idea that latine people face discrimination out of hand. I think it makes it more fucked up that she invokes it from the position of privilege she occupies. Same principle as white gays saying "I can't be racist.... I'm gay". It's fucked up invoking queer struggles to dismiss racism. It doesn't make queer struggles go away, but it's most certainly disgusting throwing them in our face to absolve themselves of critiscism; diminishing those struggles to a shield against critiscism when they are much more than that.

[@HotPotathoe]

Exactly. There is a difference between being born in Latin America and being Latino, and being ethnically indigenous to Latin American countries and identifying as a brown Latin American. She may not understand the difference btwn ethnicity and nationality

[@scout8145]

25:25 Since we have plenty of other things to rightfully call her out for, I’ll give her (and Billie Joe Armstrong) a pass on the “Basket Case” one. Even just looking at the logo, it’s very clearly referencing the Green Day song, which is from a first person perspective of someone experiencing mental illness. Billie Joe Armstrong wrote it about his own experience with anxiety. I’m not giving her a pass on literally anything else, but I just wanted to provide more context on this one.

[@Snpdrgon]

Love him. Almost cried when his face popped up on the screen ❤

[@zerrickishadow7601]

I am glad someone else said it. For Dookie's 20th Anniversary, they released T-Shirts with art depicting each song and Basket Case was one of them and it had the exact same font as the shade.

[@Kaylee.lastname]

I cannot imagine the feeling that Leafar’s daughter experiences having her trauma weaponized against her and monetized to this day. That’s disgusting.

[@Deliahszepinzky]

this is disgusting, they all disgusting her and her husband are trash

[@xmilkshakesx]

No kidding! That poor woman. I hope she’s getting the support and therapy she needs.

[@eric6cartman9]

I don't buy that its a Buddhist peace symbol to him, not when its on ur neck and certainly not when u have assault charges to ur name

[@Deliahszepinzky]

Exactly !if he was indian ok but you live in america, people who gonna see this crap will associate this to nazism

[@Hollysuzette33]

He is a provocative person by nature. He can mess with people and their assumptions without even speaking. He wants to show people how stupid and ill-informed they are, in my opinion. Notice that the Buddhist symbol is flipped from the Nazi , the original turns the opposite direction. He is another over share-er, they belong together. I do like his former band, Prayers. He is a good artist. They both are.

[@industrialcathedral]

I know S"astika is originally a Hindu symbol of good luck, I even once saw it in some Bollywood movie and was like Whaaaaaat (imagine a bunch of red flowery swastikas floating around xDDD), but let's be real - he doesn't live in India, he knew how 99% of people would react.

[@Deliahszepinzky]

@@industrialcathedral exactly he knew but yes in a Bollywood movie I saw it haha 😆

[@industrialcathedral]

@@Deliahszepinzky whas it KKKG? The scene with pool and flowers?

[@elizabethparziale5395]

Thank you for special attention on troubled teen industry. As a victim of such a facility in early 00s it is unspeakable trauma.

[@Miannemih]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO. Kills me that she built her career around the alternative subculture and tattoos and now is basically turning around on it completely… while also having the audacity to get black work done to cover her tattoos instead of getting them lasered but she’s so ?against? tattoos? now ? Unless they’re “honoring to god” like her portrait tattoos? I don’t know really confusing!!! I’ve been waiting for this!!!!

[@TheWobblyQueen]

How many times in that interview was it “my husband” she used to say her ink was art, loved every one even the ones that weren’t great, or were done by ex boyfriend’s it was all part of the journey, The black out ink is just erasure without growth. No white new ink on top, visible condemnation with nothing to show for a new life, not even bothered to try cover ups with her skill set. I’m wondering how much of that blackout ink is emotional erasure & a dominant husband who doesn’t want reminders of her previous lovers. I hope she’s ok mentally & happy because of the poop hits the fan again she can get her independence back, but not her canvas.

[@MummyBrown]

Personally, so many of her tattoos are of people that USE TO BE her close friends but haven’t been for years. Call me crazy, but she’s the common denominator in so many trashed friendships. I see a big red flag right there.

[@Sarah-re7cg]

@@TheWobblyQueenvery good point. That guy is a walking nightmare. The shit with his daughter is unfathomable. Clearly an unhinged, controlling misogynist.

[@formerbabyfutureghost]

I also get the sense that kat doesn’t have a strong sense of her own identity (which is pretty common in people with trauma like she has). She seems easily influenced by people that she’s building her identity around (like her current husband or people she has chosen to latch onto like Allie Beth). You can tell by how frequently she changes what’s important to her. Not saying people can’t learn new information and have changes to what they value, but I really think she finds something or someone that she thinks will help her figure out who she is and goes all in

[@poppyflowers7897]

Insightful comment, thx

[@TricksterModeEngaged]

Yeah, I mean it's not really surprising considering what she went through at a formative period. A lot of those "troubled teen" places are trying to intentionally break-and-remake you at a time when your sense of self is at a critical stage. And even if she says she isn't mad at her folks, I can't but help feel like that's going to leave you wanting to latch onto whoever or whatever nearby seems accepting of you and might give you some stability and meaning in your life.

[@formerbabyfutureghost]

@@AzathothTheGreat I don’t think I said anywhere in my comment that I admire her at all. It was simply an observation of her behavior. I also have watched her since Miami ink, I’m 35 years old. I try to always look at people for what they are: nuanced and complicated amalgamations of their biology and experiences. I think it’s a pretty large over simplification to just imply she’s only a bully and nothing more. But not once did I say I admire or respect her. Not everything needs to be so black and white.

[@StephieGsrEvolution]

​@@AzathothTheGreat most narcissists/bullies had trauma.

[@xwinoxrhinox]

@@AzathothTheGreatyeah i became a fan of hers back in the miami ink days and i own a copy of her book that came out around the time she started high voltage tattoo. she never mentions being sent away in the book, rather she talks about how much hell she put her parents through and how she moved to the other side of the country with her boyfriend when she was 15. she also raves about how great her childhood was, how she comes from a long line of doctors…overall sounds like a privileged upbringing . im not saying she hasn’t experienced any trauma but i would be really interested to know if anyone can corroborate that she actually spent any time at that abusive “school”. (i also have an autographed photo of her from back when you could get one for free off her website and the handwriting on my photo matches the handwriting in the “burn in hell ***bag” photo so i definitely believe she actually wrote that. )

[@tiffaniejewett6795]

I grew up in rural, Christian Ohio and was kept pretty sheltered. I secretly loved spooky things and costumes and big hair and make up and black clothes, things that were bad or evil in my home, and I felt so out of place. When I went to college I started to be able to be myself, then I was diagnosed with cancer and had to move back home for treatment. It was early Netflix times (Hi, Old!) and as a lonely, suppressed piano performance/art major I watched so much LA Ink because Kat was a pianist and artist. It gave me so much hope that someone with my skills could use them in such different ways than the path that I had been put on and she seemed like someone who was able to break away from her upbringing and forge her own path embracing her passions. I want folks to believe the things that bring them joy and peace, but I’ve felt embarrassed by how encouraged I felt by her and disappointed that is is where she has ended up. I live in Indianapolis now (Ty, low CoL) and Most of the people I know grew up in Christianity and have since left and feel like it has been a harmful force on their life. It feels so wild that’s She’s now chosen was she gave me inspiration to leave.

[@Bluebanjobenjamin]

Thank you for being civil and respectful. There’s so much bashing going on in the comments here that it’s really refreshing to see someone exercising some humanity. I really appreciate the comment 🤙🏻

[@Ohhhwehere]

yea I had the same with the HP universe, I grew up treated like trash by family and school so when I found the HP books they gave me so much hope for a better life, JKR was my idol, but it made me so sad and disapointed that she turned out to be absolutly garbage. Im glad JKR gave me hope as a kid but now a days I will never irl admit that I even know her.

[@alexandrapatterson3723]

From what I’ve heard (admittedly I’ve not looked into it too deeply), she is no longer vegan. A bunch of former vegans have moved to Christianity and right wing conspiracy theories… carnivore or ‘ancestral diets’ seem also to be a key part of the ‘starter pack’ for this lifestyle.

[@Nothanku_]

It’s hard to be vegan in southern Indiana, especially in a rural small town

[@annadrift4]

Veganism, like wverything in her life, was always about personal gain and putting down others. She had serious self esteem issues around her body and wanted to be thin. She also used her new found veganism to put down people working for her were eating on her tattoo show. Would not be surprised she changes that too.

[@starophie]

i mean, my partner was legally abducted and abandoned in the utah wilderness, was allowed to be homeless for years, and still never dated or dressed like a n*zi. so my jewish sympathy for kvd is slim.

[@steviebeevie]

Exactly, trauma does not justify choosing bigotry, especially since I really don't understand how that trauma would lead to the WS pipeline but idk I'm just someone online

[@F1areon]

My thought was that he feels like he got abandoned by his community bc no one came to help him, so he's gonna side with the people out to destroy said community out of spite. Or smth like that @@steviebeevie

[@trasher_gooby9921]

This part!!! I think the difference between good and bad people is. Its hard to change your ways. Its hard to make change for the better. Even though it's hard, a good person will fight through that. To be a better person. On the other hand. We have people like this gurl😭 it's easy to not make a change. It's easy to give up and keep your toxic mindset. Yet I still don't know what the actual diff is. Why doesn't everyone strive for the better? Ik it's difficult but...what makes someone so.......ew

[@F1areon]

Could be out of spite, could be they have a huge ego and think they're in the right and therefore don't need to change... really, it depends @@trasher_gooby9921

[@picklethepepper]

What about Palestinian children? No one likes you guys.

[@megancarbonetto3849]

It's honestly really gross how many people were willing to overlook the racism but then cancelled her for being anti vaxx, She should have ben cancelled long long long before the vaccine issue came up.

[@coela2616]

putting a six pointed star in the middle of the swastika rather undercuts his argument that it isn't antisemitic

[@hadassahholl6327]

10000%

[@Guineapigsreadingbooks]

Yeah, as does the fact that that is the most prominent thing you see there. The religions the swastika was appropriated from have other symbols he use as the center piece if it was truly about those religions.

[@R-lyeh]

He also had "art" with Nazi swastikas. He tries to get it completely scrubbed from the internet, but screenshots/archives remain. It's been a while since I saw it, but it were multiple busts and a scull (like porcelain coloured) with the Nazi swastika (in black) painted on it. He is definitely a Nazi, fits in with her exes, she definitely has a type.

[@danielledubay-betters712]

Hi Jen! You mentioned not knowing a lot about 7th day adventists so I wanted to make a suggestion for future content about high-control groups:) John Kellogg (yes, the corn flakes guy) was a 7th day Adventist and ran a “wellness center” where folks could exercise and eat vegetarian food with absolutely no spices. He believed that bland food could help rid a person of sexual desire, which to him was preferable. This is why he developed corn flakes! That all doesn’t sound so bad, but he also abused kids. He sent parents into a moral panic by basically being like “hey your kids are all furiously masturbating every day and they’re going to hell.” This led to some pretty serious mental and physical abuse of kids to stop them from all their sinning. The Behind the Bastards podcast episodes on John Kellogg are a great resource for a much better overview of this guy and his wellness center.

[@StephieGsrEvolution]

😰😬 thx for that unfortunate lesson in history! I didn't know.

[@moustik31]

That would be a great video!!!

[@kiandagorawr14]

All of this! I’ve a former SDA and have been hoping she’d do an episode about them!

[@Madhouse_Media]

Yeah. That guy was... Something else, for sure.

[@lordtette]

Effing hell. I have no words.

[@haysivale914]

What's really crazy about choosing the name selektion for a pink lipstick is that the bodies that would come out of the gas chambers were always a very bright pink 😥

[@calipigeon]

I’m low key suspicious of anyone who’s “German-Argentinian” from the past like 70ish years for what I think should be obvious reasons.

[@Sarah-re7cg]

I’m high key suspicious lol internet sluths need to get on that asap 👀👀

[@lt0518]

Just commented this! Are we SUUUURE they’re “missionaries” because I know a certain disgraced political party who fled Germany to Argentina to avoid being charged with war crimes….just sayin.

[@sortasofi254]

you should be, but always keep in mind that they could also be descendants from jewish refugees

[@apathybronson]

​@@sortasofi254we don't call ourselves German ever.

[@eclipsedbadger]

​@@sortasofi254this, and many German-Argentinean families are refugees from WWI more than WWII 😅 We had lots of migrant waves in Argentina after each war

[@stink6974]

Hi Jen! 9:29 your right about the fishyness of Kats claim to latinidad in defense of racism… Latin America is a colonial project as much as the u.s. is. Meaning, there are white, black, brown and mixed latinx’s (as she states in that clip). The Spanish implemented a caste system that is still alive and well across Latin America… so I say that all to say you can be white and latinx, and that CERTAINLY doesn’t absolve you if racism. In fact, Latin America is anti black and anti indigenous in many ways. So yeah, that argument falls completely flat. Also a lot of yahtzees fled to Latin America after *that* and specifically to Argentina. Signed a mixed euro indigenous “latinx” with roots in Argentina and Guatemala

[@kaheivi]

Argentina’s current president is literally a predecessor of Trump. He’s a slimy conservative who really does not care for his people. A lot of South Americans are disgusting towards Central Americans and Mexicans unfortunately. Latinos are no strangers to horrendous anti-blackness/anti-indigenous rhetoric.

[@ewarrior9776]

Argentina basically committed genocide on their Black population by sending them to fight wars and medical neglect. The country recruited in Europe to increase their white population.

[@Cahriicchuu]

Yes! I mean Argentina uses the word "Black" as an insult regardless of race. They definitely aren't an example of anti racist communities.

[@Cahriicchuu]

@TheEuniceBurns1 if it makes you feel better... Germans would come often to the northern part of South America during the 19th century and introduced the accordion and well as their rhythms that way. So not all came from yahtzees and ratlines.

[@pushinguproses]

My god, that Jack Hibbs guy is HORRIBLE. I basically lost it when he equated being trans to having a mental illness. Just spewing a bunch of nonsense that not even my most devout Christian friends believe or support. I lost total faith in Kat Von D a while ago, and it’s just a shame. She could have been a great figure for women in tattooing. Also, regarding Oliver Peck: He dated her when she was a minor, and is essentially a groomer, so I don’t place blame on her for her relationship with him. But she was definitely around bad influences from the get go.

[@daynasafranek7807]

It’s easy for someone to label someone they don’t approve of or don’t understand, as mentally ill or unstable, and when someone is completely unwilling or unable to understand others… religious beliefs seem to be a catch all for their own self limiting beliefs.

[@emilywilling8484]

This is so fascinating to me because my high school Bible teacher was the one to baptize her????? I cannot tell you how weird it was to see his face in her baptism video and have no explanation for how he knows her.

[@ashcraft555]

Even if her husband really did mean that neck tattoo to be the Buddhist symbol, he know dang well that a majority of people would not associate it with that. So the best case scenario is that he's not a Nazi, he's just perfectly happy giving the impression he is one and making people he comes into contact with (especially, you know, Jewish people) feel intimidated and scared. There's literally no way to spin it into someone that doesn't make him a trash human even before you get into the horrific stuff with his daughter. I hope his daughter has some very good therapists and very good people supporting her.

[@GrumpyKay]

The Nazis have ruined that symbol. I like to look at Google maps and in Japan, the icon label for all the Buddist Temples on a map is that symbol. And it just looks like Japan has loads of Nazi buildings. Buddhism is never getting that symbol back. They need to come up with a new one cause it's ruined now. No one thinks of them when they see it. They think of Nazis

[@laurad324]

Literally almost no one would see that symbol as that. The world knows it as Nazi symbol.

[@pikapower_kirby]

I could just be seeing things, but it looks like there's a six-point star in the center of the tattoo, like a Star of David. If that really is what I'm seeing, then there's no way it's actually the Buddhist symbol. Why even bother lying about what it is at that point?

[@GrumpyKay]

@@pikapower_kirby yeah they try to hide it being that by putting it in a lotus, but you can see the Jewish star in there. Like come on dog. We see it.

[@gutts7433]

My jaw dropped when she got to the part about his daughter, I had to pause the video and text my dad to tell him how much I loved him. I can't believe how cruel and evil you have to be to put your daughter on blast for being abused by people you brought into the home when she was a 13-year-old. Kat is CRAZY for having a child with a father like that, he is not a good dad or person! Like I'm geniunely shocked.

[@sphinxcat01]

As a Catholic and a goth, KVD becoming a “Christian” rubs me the wrong way so much. Obviously, I don’t have a problem with Christianity, but the way she’s doing it feels like it’s just for show. If she was serious about being Christian, she would care less about her tattoos and witchy stuff (which was also just for show lol) and distribute her money to the poor. This goes into a bigger problem with Christians as a whole caring more about surface level things like smoking and modesty instead of loving thy neighbor.

[@elskabee]

wow hey a fellow Catholic goth! yes, it's so surface level... who cares about your aesthetic, it's literally about love and equality not whatever ultra-conservatives want to hate this week or putting people down because they have a different lifestyle to you

[@blankblosh3357]

I'm not catholic or Christian, however I am goth and have many goth-Christian friends who also have some "witchy" and spiritual practices. I think most of the things she does is for all the wrong reasons

[@sophie_drachen]

She could've converted to Catholicism, and still kept all of her gothic and occult related paraphernalia. She could keep her tattoos and dark clothing. There are goths that wear rosary beads and crucifixes, I'm an agnostic (was raised Protestant), and I love religious art and I do have a couple crucifix necklaces, I also love walking around churches as they are beautiful places but I don't believe in or practice any organised religions. I just do my own thing, I love nature and also I follow the basic form of karma. "The energy you put in -- good or bad, can and will come back to you in different ways". You can be goth or alternative and still follow religion.

[@Halo2glitchlover22]

Can you give me some money please? Love me, neighbor.

[@sphinxcat01]

@@Halo2glitchlover22 are you homeless?

[@sassmonster3422]

Her father was a German Argentinian you say… how did we Nazi that coming?

[@TeenageDirtbag8]

Exactly

[@MadameCorgi]

To be as fair as possible, the majority of German Argentinas weren't Nazis. There were about 5 million at the start of Wwii, including many Jewish people. But yes, being Latino doesn't prevent someone from being racist

[@anitaloos3951]

I wonder if "von Drachenburg" is their original surname or if her great-grandfather chose it. The Drachenburg was the site of a Nazi elite school in the Rhineland. Just wondering.

[@Nonameforyoudangit]

​@MadameCorgi Indeed - Nick Fuentes is a good example of that.

[@j1430]

⁠white hispanics or latinos have always been almost as republican/nationalist/conservative and anti black as regular nonhispanic white americans actually so it isnt as surprising. in general latin americans have held very strong conservative views and dont have the same racial history as black people in america. (its usually xenophobia that latinos face)

[@OldDirtyHistory]

I had no idea about Rafael Reyes and his daughter. I've listened to Prayers for some years now and was clueless! On a side note, your makeup ATE in this video.

[@helenag1508]

Thank you for covering Kat Von D in this one! I only really thought of her as the "woman who started the brand of lipsticks my mum liked (but never wore)" and then a vague knowledge of the racist incidences later, so this was a super informative deep dive for me. Hate that she was a victim of the troubled teen camp industry, but it's a shame she can't take her experience into account when it comes to her following a religious leader who it seems would gladly support conversion camps for LGBTQ+ youth given his views. Plus, as others have mentioned, her father being German-Argentinian and her repeated "accidental" racist imagery and significant others with swastikas on their belongings (and bodies) is... Huh. 🤔 If my father was the stereotypical ethnicity of a nazi who escaped justice by fleeing to South America, I would do everything in my power to avoid being around swastikas and nazi imagery. Oh wait! I already DO do everything in my power to avoid being around swastikas and nazi imagery because I am a decent and normal human being. Also tangential, but if a tattoo artist said she was moving shop because her current state where she operates business has "too many rules and regulations" I would simply not get a tattoo done by her or her company again. Because even if the complaint was about COVID or homeschooling it's giving "I want to run my restaurant but the Health Department is too overreaching and has so many rules and regulations!" vibes.

[@alexlemaire8513]

So she dropped out at 15 and now she's homeschooling her kid... perhaps stricter rules on homeschooling aren't such a bad thing kat

[@xwinoxrhinox]

for real, homegirl can barely string together a coherent sentence in that abs interview.

[@SiRenfield]

Yeah and even if you’re not one of those people that advocates for homeschooling to be straight up banned entirely, the ways the US (especially many particular states) are so lax about it is just so ridiculous.

[@sumnic14]

YUP!

[@wynngwynn]

imo homeschool in general is just a bad idea

[@TheCyberianHusky]

I think "non-schooling" should be banned, but homeschooling is more beneficial than it is a negative. The laws vary state-to-state, but the standards for annual testing were quite high in all three states I lived in during my time as a homeschooler. In GA, I recall the passing score to proceed to the next year's grade was actually higher than it was for public schoolers. It was shocking for me when I attended a local college for my freshman year only to notice the overwhelming amount of students that struggled with basic math and reading comprehension. I'm aware homeschooling isn't perfect, but the fact that I've been able to secure a nice job as well as avoid being targeted for my physical disability--while simply trying to get my education-- is a major win. And let's be realistic, America's public schools offer a horrible education overall. If we make homeschooling even more difficult, the only only option is tutoring and private school, and that further reduces the possibility of obtaining quality education to the rich.

[@sc6658]

Kat Von D saying she cant be racist because she was born in Mexico (which yeah she’s technically Latina no matter what’s going on otherwise that way because Latino is a nationality/culture thing and not an ethnic group) is so strange, like. For one white Latinos exist. Two, so many Nazis fled to Argentina after World War II and lived private lives there including Josef Mengele.

[@nataliekay286]

"I'm not getting the attention I am used use to, so Im going to switch things up and become a "Christian," and then talk about how much I've changed. Hopefully I can tap into a new audience and make lots of money, and have people love me."

[@sunshine3914]

That seems to be a trend.

[@Callie_FL]

Yep. Jen is being verrrry kind & generous to her but I'm not buying the "fervor".

[@bleeknee28]

She's just so lost and wants to belong somewhere. She is a gross human being though

[@evilbarb]

If she opens another tattoo shop, she's gonna be hard-pressed to find people in Indiana to pay her California prices

[@kayliekat6158]

As a Hoosier I agree

[@flamejob4260]

as a Indiana piercer this is so true, even our best artists in the state like luke wolf jr, hypemasterart, etc. don't charge any where near what she does

[@savhaven8382]

Glad I don’t live in vevay, she seems like she’s a pretentious neighbor

[@lewdawg69]

@@flamejob4260god I love hypemasterart I want a tattoo done by them so bad

[@andreaarellano2174]

I'm confused, what did she charge for a tattoo

[@MercedesMermaid]

As a mixed person I've seen both sides. Your ethnicity/ race doesn't exclude you from racism/being racist

[@BrownRiceBunny1]

It’s very important that her Dad is Argentinian-German. Notoriously Argentina opened it’s arms to fleeing Nazis after WW2. There were German communities (naturally they were divided about Hitler) before WW2 but the government secretly/openly allowed Nazi war criminals to enter the country.

[@iagas9]

I don’t want to be too harsh but I don’t really think this is a fair comment, there are 5 million German Argentines and about 12,000 Nazis that fled (I am not saying that’s a good number). That’s everyone’s association with Argentines but I would say that’s a problem for all Argentines not just the German ones The reason I comment this is because I know Jewish Argentines who are descended from Holocaust refugees but are offended that people joke they’re Nazis because of being Argentine with a Germanized last name

[@cidevant002]

Yeah, no, the nazi argentina is rich coming from the people in the USA when they literally had nazis scientist working on Nasa and it wasn't even that long ago that Alt right nutjobs literally stormed the capital, or actual real nazis chanted nazi slogans with tiki torches. You want to look at countries with questionable relations to nazi germany, the USA takes the cake and yet the country whose dictatorship they finnanced, causing the death of thousands of argentinians, gets the bad reputation.

[@cidevant002]

​@@iagas9Argentina literally has one of the biggest jewish communities in the entire world.

[@lilafeldman8630]

@@cidevant002 yes, both of them fled there.

[@camcat26]

Argentina and Brazil both have large populations of European immigrants who arrived after WWII. Parts Europe were OBLITERATED from the bombings, and many people left to start over in a number of less damaged countries. So far, no one has shown any significant evidence that her father comes from a ratline family other than being German-Argentinian

[@myathewolfeh1156]

I feel like when a lot of these celebrities suddenly decide to become "Christian" or "rightwing" they have realized they can make more money by grifting these audiences. And it works, unfortunately. Look how much attention and money these people suddenly get. It's kind of disgusting.

[@sunshine3914]

Yep, following the $$ & playing to those who are most likely to part with theirs sooner than later.

[@nehalilisays]

Politically it's also right-wingers kinda having to welcome all kinds of pick-mes to appear more diverse and moderate than they actually are.

[@sunnybearbuds]

Ok Kat, please tell me you're not saying that there is no racism in the Latin American community. I am a brown Latina; no one has ever or will ever assume I'm white, so I can present a lifetime of examples of Latino-on-Latino racism.

[@majorrangerdanger9184]

I’d love to see a video about the rise of traditional Catholicism (tradCaths). A different flavor of fundamentalism that’s also got a lot of mommy bloggers/influencers that are pushing these beliefs.

[@ajpadley]

Kaitlyn Bennett, Kent State Gun Girl, became a tradCath

[@escabasket153]

@@ajpadleythe one who shit her pants?

[@katrabbit]

As someone who grew up watching Miami Ink and LA Ink I just wanted to give a little context for what the viewers saw at that time... She was portrayed as a very unreliable and sloppy person on Miami Ink. She would frequently be seen drinking or drunk at the shop and there were rumors (I thought they had been proven correct, but I'm not positive) that the reason she left Miami Ink was because they did not tolerate her alcohol abuse any longer. There were numerous episodes where she would be belligerent and trying to argue with her coworkers and their clients. So, the signed picture of her saying the derogatory word to Ami is actually quite possible at that time. She wasn't exactly in her "right mind" and loved doing things that would "shock" her coworkers and bring attention to herself, even if it was bad attention. As far as LA Ink and the harassment claims, she was again portrayed as a very flaky boss and was often only seen in the shop when she had a high profile client come in for the show. There was also a lot of drama for the cameras between her and her coworkers, that may or may not have been played up. But basically, all this to say that she has not been shy about being the "bad guy" for more publicity or attention.

[@StephieGsrEvolution]

I watched a lot of those episodes and remember what you're talking about as being correct.

[@mxnjones]

I remember that! I crushed hard on her though, because I really find her dark aesthetic attractive AF.

[@DimaRakesah]

I guess after a while people get tired of someone being a jerk for attention and just stop paying attention. Then the only way to get it is to do a 180.

[@houseofaction]

all reality shows are fake.

[@Red_Groke_plans]

I always thought that she was Catholic, mostly due to the Gothic vibes and her use of rosary as a photo prop for so many photos.

[@spantigre3190]

I love when celebrities choose to publicly humiliate their kids instead of directly speaking to them. That's always worked.

[@Kayla-rd5jd]

not to mention publicly humiliating your teenage daughter who was taken advantage of by your own friends, that’s just unbelievable

[@Zectifin]

worst father of the year award. great person to have a kid with.

[@illeanacruz1269]

as a trans person i kinda want "violation of humanity and science" on a shirt

[@ieatvideogames]

Okay that would be amazing and cunty.

[@spOOkytimes]

Maybe the real journey was the violations of humanity and science we made along the way.

[@w0rmg0rl]

lmao, I love how he tries to appeal to the "evolutionists" too, but he can't recall the term "unscientific"

[@spud6195]

the only violation going on throughout was to my ears having to listen to the complete BS he was spewing

[@kellanbellchamber6430]

I am also trans and I would love one of those too 😂❤

[@tournesolflippant2232]

Hi Jen and James, I just wanted to say I love your content, I discovered your channel around last Chrysler-- I mean Christmas, and I'm-sadly-done binge-watching all your videos from oldest to newest. Thank you for the tremendous work you've shared with us so far, I can't wait to see more! (I'm currently binge-watching Jordan and McCay's videos thanks to you. 😊) You look stunning btw and I loved all the changes in hair color throughout the years! Bonjour from France (yeah...I'm a French sexually broken atheist who has somehow become obsessed with the US fundie multiverse). 👋 Take care. (Also, I don't know if Kat Von D is still vegan today but damn, we need better rep than this 😅🌱)

[@isabelleanderson3618]

I’m vegan too!! it’s always so upsetting when people like her give us a bad look :(

[@KellyDVance]

"I know a lot of people assume I'm white because I didn't inherit my mom's beautiful dark skin..." No honey. It was the very German last name. Also, the fact that her dad was German Argentinian... Amazing how much the German population of Argentina grew in the mid-1940s. 😒

[@scz1770]

von is also the aristocratic prefix in German, so they were upper class Nazis to boot 😅

[@KellyDVance]

@@scz1770 right!😂

[@AlexandriaV]

Her mom's not ver brown either so that being scale enough to be considered "dark" in her mind sent me. I'm darker than her mom & nobody says my skin is "dark" because it's still a medium brown.

[@scz1770]

@@AlexandriaV it's like she's racist or something 😭

[@KellyDVance]

@@AlexandriaV I just went an looked up pictures, and you're right. (About her not being that dark, I have no idea about whether or not you're darker.) My daughter's godmother, who is Hispanic, is several shades darker, which is what I was picturing.

[@majesticdolphins]

I'm still baffled about why she made that anti vax video. She wasn't really a vlogger at that time, no one was asking any questions about her motherhood journey!! She could have just not said anything and kept her brand

[@preciouspear7619]

Fr! People nowadays feel like they need to put out every thought & belief that they have.

[@drugsdelaney2907]

@@preciouspear7619problem is, it wasn’t her idea. She just parroted rw bs to gain popularity.