FURIOUS Driver Blocks EV Charger And Drives Car At Me! (MUST SEE!)

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@johnfranklin6394 9 күн бұрын

Pathetic behaviour. Just pathetic. So many empty spaces elsewhere in the car park. Could only have been deliberate to block an EV charging bay. What a sad individual.

@foxylady1048 9 күн бұрын

That sort of person was waiting for you to make his day. The best thing to do was just ignore them, they get bored very quickly when they don’t get the attention they crave. Just like a spoiled child who doesn’t get attention. As long as there is a space to charge let him have his moment. He will get fed up and drive away.

@jameschapman4824 9 күн бұрын

Just a weirdo IMHO. You've got his number report his aggressive behaviour to the police. They won't do anything but he may get a letter from them as you have his number

@X5493-c7p 2 күн бұрын

Tell them he said a hurty word on X then half a dozen coppers will be breaking his front door down at 3am 😂

@mikadavies660 9 күн бұрын

It was probably what is known in the trade as "a total mongo" Sad really.

@_Dougaldog 9 күн бұрын

I wonder, did he realise that it's six penalty points and a fine for holding a handheld device whilst driving ?

@tim66612343 9 күн бұрын

@@_Dougaldog he's probably on private land so probably not applicable unfortunately

@_Dougaldog 9 күн бұрын

@@tim66612343 He's in a publicly accessible area, so perfectly applicable, as are all traffic laws.

@matthewbaker6434 9 күн бұрын

@@tim66612343not true. Although private land it’s open to the public so prosecutable

@TeaBreak. 9 күн бұрын

@@tim66612343It isn't private land if it has public access. You are still bound by the rules of the road... From what I remember.

@Harbourmaster68 9 күн бұрын

@@tim66612343the Road Traffic Act still applies on publicly-accessible private land.

@cbromley562 9 күн бұрын

This species of human you encountered seem to be genus-knucklus-dragus. A disturbing and pointless mutation. Hope you are recovered, and back to your positive self. Keep up the good work.

@johnbrown3471 8 күн бұрын

There were numerous empty bays, why did you feel the need to speak to him or move him on?

@Mububban23 5 күн бұрын

Interesting take. ICE Idiot drove past dozens of empty normal bays to deliberately be a dickhead and take an EV charging bay, and you question the presenter for calling out ICE guy's dickhead behaviour?

@G6EJD 9 күн бұрын

He’s totally unhinged and was using a mobile device whilst driving so could be reported for a fine and 6-points, unbelievable behaviour

@chrisivens3413 9 күн бұрын

Yeah but it's not a public highway.

@G6EJD 8 күн бұрын

@@chrisivens3413 The law in England and Wales is in section 192(1) Road Traffic Act 1988 which says that a road is: Any highway Any other road to which the public has access Bridges over which a road passes Car parks of any type have open public access and are covered by the RTA

@G6EJD 8 күн бұрын

@@chrisivens3413 that’s a popular misconception, try some Google searching you can be prosecuted in a supermarket car park as well as any other place on the roads, don’t stop at a supermarket zerbra crossing and you’ll get the same force of the law fall on you!

@chrisivens8680 8 күн бұрын

@@G6EJD Is that so. I've learned something new. I thought that on what is effectively private land the laws were different. No that I advocate driving round with a phone, camera or coffee in hand just because it's a car park. With all the signage being non-standard compared to a normal highway, I thought that the rules were different too. Where does that leave the people doing doughnuts in the carpark at night, I wonder?

@lmaoroflcopter 8 күн бұрын

@chrisivens8680 they get nicked. G6EJD is correct, majority of car parks are considered the public highway.

@EverydayLife621 9 күн бұрын

Clearly a relative of The Macmaster 🤣🤣 - but good for you Dave for standing up to the tools

@ryl0n 9 күн бұрын

100% needs reporting, using your vehicle as a weapon, or even threatening that is completely unhinged. Left unchallenged that type of behaviour is likely to escalate.

@user-so8yc2qo5h 9 күн бұрын

He was clearly waiting for an argument, should have ignored him

@Dickybee57 9 күн бұрын

The mad thing is he was blocking one charger of many available ones - what was he going to do? Drive towards another charging bay if someone didn't try to use the one he was blocking??? Makes no sense at all even as a "protest".... Numpty.

@juliemarriott7395 9 күн бұрын

Rodney the plonker comes to mind. As bad as the EV drivers who park in charging bays at the services, not charging.

@johniooi3954 9 күн бұрын

Opp.. Dave....

@johnharcombe9412 9 күн бұрын

I would not have got involved unless they were taking up last charging place. He probably thought none of your business

@davetakesiton 9 күн бұрын

Yes that’s one point, but on that basis is it alright to park in disabled bays if they are free? Or on double yellow lines blocking traffic if no one is around to stop you? As I said if all the other bays were completely full, I could understand. They weren’t.

@Gazer75 9 күн бұрын

@@davetakesiton There are plenty of people that believe using a disabled bay is fine if there is no one there. I've got some angry replies when tell them to move from them.

@sob2714 9 күн бұрын

Maybe he is contemplating on buying an EV and wants to experience what it is like charging. Maybe you just put the guy off 😂😂. Keep up the filming Dave

@patdbean 9 күн бұрын

4:33 his number plate starts with "SS". Sums it up really. 😂

@barnseyfrommossley 9 күн бұрын

You have to feel sorry for them. He might threaten the wrong person one day and end up in a situation that he would regret. Personally, I'd report him for his threatening behaviour by driving at you, returning for round 2 and for using an electronic hand held device while driving.

@mrkrabs1066 9 күн бұрын

You need to share this video with the police and show them that the driver of the white Ford was operating a mobile phone whilst driving. I'm sure that will come with a hefty fine and some penalty points. What a maniac.

@markanderson298 8 күн бұрын

Take care Dave. There are some very strange, rude people on the roads.

@JSMITH6298 9 күн бұрын

He was clearly trying to annoy EV drivers, in a very childish way, to make his anti EV feelings known. Best solution is not to engage with them at all. They then don’t get the satisfaction of knowing you are bothered by them.

@brianbarcroft9167 9 күн бұрын

You can't apply logic Dave. A lot of these people are just obsessive nutjobs.

@tonyhale7403 9 күн бұрын

I wonder what his reaction would be if you chose to park in a petrol service station by a fuel pump and went in and browsed the food and drink available ?

@johnjo7778 9 күн бұрын

If another pump was available it wouldn't be a problem. The fact that most of the chargers were empty makes his argument invalid

@daveansell1970 9 күн бұрын

@@johnjo7778 no because while you are away they might no longer be empty. You are blocking a resource for no good reason, that is at best rude.

@johnjo7778 9 күн бұрын

@daveansell1970 I'm under the impression the driver was in the car all the time he was parked there! I don't think there's any evidence proving he wasn't. He may have only parked up for a cup of coffee! Obviously if he left his car unattended and took up a valuable bay, then that's a different matter!

@oliver90owner 9 күн бұрын

⁠@@johnjo7778 So, you would think it is OK for motorists to park in bays reserved for blue badge holders? Seems like either you are a numpty or only apply the principle of a reserved space when it suits YOU1

@johnjo7778 8 күн бұрын

@oliver90owner What's blue badge got to do with this?? Numpty!

@thomasjohnbirks132 8 күн бұрын

Don't try to solve the world's problems. It' a bit like road rage, just stand back and ignore it.

@tim66612343 9 күн бұрын

Not every driver is as chilled out as us. He’s going to get punched by someone who is not so calm. Didn’t look like he could have put up much of a fight.

@MrGMawson2438 9 күн бұрын

Lots more crazy things are going on on this little planet Dave

@nathanwatson7280 9 күн бұрын

If all the Superchargers had been packed and he blocked, what should be the last available one...I'd say you'd be right to call him out. But seeing as there were plenty of open chargers, and it appeared he was in the car, hadn't parked, and left, I wonder if you were right here. Now, his reaction of using abusive language was uncalled for, and indeed, driving at you was uncalled for, but it didn't look like a serious attempt. In court, it could be argued that he mistakenly put the car into forward gear when he meant to be in reverse. But we also didn't get to hear what you actually said. Overall, I'd say you should have just parked at a charger and left it alone.

@brianridley1102 8 күн бұрын

I agree with you here, he wasn't blocking anybody at all so no need to challenge him at all. If he had been someone deliberately blocking them that's different

@hivewatch 8 күн бұрын

He is saying in effect that all parking bays are open to him regardless. It's basic territorial pissings. The fact that he is driving a white ford tells you his mentality. If you challenge him as you did he's just up for a Row/fight and if he is with a lady passenger he is asserting his M asculinity. It's Ronnie Pickering basically.

@nathanwatson7280 8 күн бұрын

@@hivewatch , I didn't see any signage expressly reserving those bays for EVs, so he's technically correct. (Unless there is some UK law regarding parking bays with EV charging stations that I am unaware of. Is it an ahole move to block them? Sure, but that doesn't mean he's not correct that he can park there. And again, he was sitting IN his car. Typically, someone doesn't just park and sit in their car for no reason. Could he be a bored a-hole who wanted to sit and block EV charging and generate EXACTLY this interaction? Of course, he could. But the best way to deal with that is to NOT react to him. He'll get bored of doing it. But it's just as possible from what I saw that he was entering or exiting the car park, noticed he needed to do something that is not advisable to do while operating a moving vehicle, like operating a mobile device, for example, and pulled into the bay for a bit. I get the point the OP is trying to make with this video, and I agree. But the confrontation was unnecessary. He could have discretely filmed the guy from his car and still made that point.

@GruffSillyGoat 6 күн бұрын

@@nathanwatson7280 - the UK regulations state it's for the council to issue updated Traffic Regulation Orders to restrict the parking including put up signage to advise of the restictions, if this is a public parking area (as a fair few retail outlet car parks are). If this is a private car park that has sold part of the bays to a charging company, then they need to put up signs notifying any usage restrictions and any enforncement mechanisms (e.g. penalty notices). There is no automatic limitations to charging bays in the UK, to allow for flexibility in usage. However, this appears to be a new charging area within a retail outlet car park and from the video it looks like restriction notices have not been put up. Hence either the parking restrictions are not in use yet or the bays could well be open to all not just those charging - with parking/charging use on a first come first served basis. The latter makes sense in a retail car park setting, which may get busy at times so requires the full parking capacity on occasions, at other less busy times the bays are doubling up as charging bays to increase the revenue from the car park and provide a local charging service (especially for those without the ability to home charge). Particularly, as this area appears to be for overflow/local charging capacity in Rugby, as there is a large dedicated transit style charging area nearby, based on Dave's other videos. Mixed usage lowers the management cost of the car park (especially if its a free car park), and benefits EV drivers (of which I'm one) as they also don't have to leave the charging bays once charged either (although it's polite to do so, when the car park is not jammed packed). There are more 'opportunistic' destination charging areas like this appearing across the UK, which is a good thing for EV's as charging capacity increases to a level where it's becoming just a readily available ability everywhere. Hopefully, people will respect the bay's additional function at busy times and politely ceed the space to those needing to charge. But to get this level of well mannered respect it also need to be given by us EV drivers so as not put people's noses out of joint as this is self-defeating, doesn't help EV adoption and gives ammo to those seeking to spread anti-EV rhetoric. It was probable the car's occupants just stopped in an out of the way spot (end of the car park) to grab a coffee/bite to eat, and watch the traffic go by (the spot they choose appears to have a good view over the entry roundabout). Afterall if their aim was to 'block usage' to send a message it was a pointless attempt given the number of available empty charging spaces. It is likely the driver was shocked at someone pestering them when it is likely they were not seeking to do anything wrong, they may have been ill mannered on Dave's approach but likewise Dave was in approaching them in the first place. The occupants returning to film is likely prompted by being percieved as being harrassed, chased away and then reflecting on it, deciding to return to get a record of the event or may have even done so after contacting the car park owner. In short, it's best not to assume preferrential treatment or automatic rights to a charge bay unless such is explicitly notified/sign-posted, such signs often restrict both the EV driver's ability to stay-on post charge as well as non-EV drivers use of the bay.

@stevew9957 9 күн бұрын

Why did you bother to approach him given there were available unoccupied chargers ? I certainly don't understand his mentality but by the same token you aren't a car park official so it could be interpreted by him as you being a busy body ? Ask yourself if you hadn't approached him and just got on with your charging what do you think he would have done ?

@TanksRock 8 күн бұрын

It's about educating people that parking in any charging spot and not charging is unacceptable behaviour. That applies equally to EV's. He'd soon kick off if EV's parked at his chosen garage and blocked all the pumps so he couldn't fill up yet thinks nothing of blocking an EV charger. I appreciate that there were plenty of empty bays but if he is never challenged he will continue to park there, and other charging spaces he finds. He'll have some pathetic justification for his action anyway, his sort always do

@stevew9957 8 күн бұрын

@@TanksRock I disagree, bringing it to the attention of the driver just feeds his need to be annoying. He knew full well parking there would possibly inconvenience someone. Highlighting the fact will make that driver feel as though he is getting to Dave and give him satisfaction. Ignoring him is like handling a 2 year old having a tantrum and not approaching him wouldn't have fed his need for conflict and would have internally upset him.

@leslie19611 9 күн бұрын

He saw you filming him so he filmed you back. An attempt to intimidate you I suppose because was upset to be told he shouldn't be parking there. Good thing it didn't go further than that.

@chrisivens3413 9 күн бұрын

This is my take on it too. I bet he thought you (Dave) were filming a thing about what he had been doing so he childishly decided to film you back. I suspect he had no idea what your real motive for the filming was.

@chrisivens3413 9 күн бұрын

Oh and being from a village just outside Rugby, I can vouch for the number of numpties (we'll call them that) per square mile being rather high.

@justeatingbigmacs 9 күн бұрын

send footage to police of him using a hand held device while driving

@davidwade4594 9 күн бұрын

You can't reason with stupid unfortunately. All the best Dave

@peterstarmes7110 9 күн бұрын

Perhaps he's a rival KZbin creator trying to get a reaction for content.

@hectorwinslove6154 8 күн бұрын

At least he knew the correct hand gesture for self description.

@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 9 күн бұрын

He was probably a mindless fan boy of Geoff buys knackerheaps.

@Gowlar 9 күн бұрын

Was charging there last week. Bit of a unique place can view washing machines and fridge freezers whilst charging in currys.

@antoniopalmero4063 9 күн бұрын

I don’t care if there are other empty charging bays .

@MaxDigby-q1t 8 күн бұрын

You should nominate him for “plank of the week” on the Mike Parry talk radio show. But I guess they are probably mates 😉

@antoniopalmero4063 9 күн бұрын

I always park my EV at petrol pumps while doing a bit of shopping in the garage 😂 .it all evens out 😂

@grahammountain 9 күн бұрын

Report to police

@jamesr.9239 9 күн бұрын

It is interesting to see that at least America isn't the sole home of idiots and angry people, though I would wager we have the majority of them over here.

@Jaw0lf 9 күн бұрын

Behaviour of this sort is totally crazy and there is no way of understanding this behaviour. If it was to annoy an EV driver, they failed due to many empty bays. Some people don't like to follow rules and this is the case as using a handheld device whilst driving is an illegal action.

@salibaba 8 күн бұрын

The driver was probably thinking you’d parked up to charge and went away for coffee. Probably wanted to key the car whilst you were away.

@yagisencho 9 күн бұрын

That's what we call 'whack-a-doodle' behavior.

@bshah4831 9 күн бұрын

Shocking

@johnkeen2345 9 күн бұрын

Total Tosser I think. They give old people a bad name.

@tangerinestorm 8 күн бұрын

Probably there to get a rise out of people wanting to charge, probably disappointed that there weren't more people charging.

@TeaBreak. 9 күн бұрын

Only watched half the video where he drives off. Really don't see any reason to have approached the car in the first place. So many empty bays. If it was a single charger then it is a problem but should have ignored them completely. 👍

@TeslaDo_d 8 күн бұрын

Same with shoplifters? They left a few boxes of cereal on the shelves for others...so it's all good. Just ignore them? This is the problem with the entire world right now. Lawyers have conditioned us all to simply accept bad behavior. I commend Dave for helping this individual to become a better citizen. This is the same individual who leaves his shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot...suppose everyone decides to do that?

@GruffSillyGoat 6 күн бұрын

@@TeslaDo_d - this is the UK, solicitors don't have the same level of sway as lawyers have in other countries. Dave may or may not be in the right here, there are car parks in the UK where the bays are mixed usage (parking or charging) without restrictions, this reflects the increased level of roll out of destination charging becoming available in the UK and is a positive development; normalising usage and taking away the anti-EV argument of preferential treatment and reduction in parking due to EVs. It seems Tesla's Public Charging network (which is different to the restricted Tesla only Supercharger network) is working with councils to increase availability of destination charging at local sites to enable a form of lower cost community charging that helps EV adoption in the 20% without access to home or work charging. This also helps councils with another revenue stream from those charging. Some councils are placing these in retail and council office car parks whilst not explicitly dedicating the bays to charging-only to prevent local legislation/planning issues and complaints at reducing parking space availability from blocking their deployment.

@TeslaDo_d 6 күн бұрын

@@GruffSillyGoat I understand...the fire lane and handicap spots were already taken. This is the mentality that society must overcome. A genuine revenue source is available to a vendor and yet it may somehow be considered okay to block the storefront, because there are other doorways available. If those were Costco gas pumps in those locations and I parked my EGO mower there, I'm sure the gassers would be defending me for my right to do so, and the owner of the pump would not care in the least. Sorry buddy, but this is non-sense in any country. My grocery store has a canopy over the cart corral. I think my Tesla might just fit on a rainy day....nothing says I can't do it. No law against it. There are several other cart return locations. I must be in the right!

@GruffSillyGoat 6 күн бұрын

@@TeslaDo_d - You may see it as nonsense but it works for the UK, and elsewhere that similar civil approach is used. In the UK, we are well versed as using the persuasion of pervasive politeness to prevent the muppets who block disabled bays; and it's always best to have public opinion on your side in this respect. Plus, best not to use similar false equivalence examples that they those on the anti-EV side so love to use, this is not disabled/services bays being discussed. The role of mixed-usage parking (charging and parking) is beneficial as it speeds up the rollout of charging, supporting those without home/work charging to adopt EVs earlier (voiding one of the leading complaints from the anti-EV crowd in the UK). It's understandable that in the early days of EV adoption (as was the case in the UK a few years ago) or on key high volume routes that charging bays are reserved for charging only (even EVs cannot park in them once charged). However, eventually the majority of parking locations will offer a level of destination charging therefore mixed-usage makes sense as it's just a parking space that you can happen to charge-in. As mixed-usage parking speeds up the adoption, by removing red tape and delays, and normalises EVs then we're all the better for it. But there will always be a few entitled muppets who think they can do what they want. However, we need to avoid giving these self-important fools a platform or cause to normalise their behaviour, hence if a bay is a mixed-use one and there are other charging bays available then it's it not helpful (in the UK sense) to use this as a cause celebre (particularly as it doesn't support the point being made). The UK gutter press have used such before to forward their anti-EV stance, let's hope this isn't one of those occasions - Dave is a bit of a prime target here being an EV YT content creator. In short best not to feed the troll.

@thelaserhive3368 9 күн бұрын

Maybe he felt insecure that you had filmed him, so he thought he would ‘pay you back’ by filming you? Who knows what goes on in the minds of these people though?

@abemyboy35 8 күн бұрын

Apparently it’s £100 fine for staying over the three hours at this retail carpark. I’m wondering if there are also signs saying do not park here if nonelectric as that fine could be applicable to him.

@mikebreen2890 9 күн бұрын

The thing to understand is that drivers behaving in an unhinged manner in the first place are going to respond in an unhinged manner when confronted. Sadly, EV's have dragged a significant number of nutters out of the woodwork as you should know better than most.

@Nick_Smith1970 8 күн бұрын

Yes, and Geoff Buys Cars and The Macmaster do their best to hand out the pitchforks and flaming torches too.

@mikebreen2890 8 күн бұрын

@@Nick_Smith1970 Oh god, have you seen the comments on their channels? I'm sure most of their audience walk on their knuckles.

@CalvinJordan-b1c 6 күн бұрын

I don’t understand why a person with an ice car doesn’t like an EV ,it makes no sense

@muchsake 8 күн бұрын

Report him to the police AND Tesla. He faces at least 9 penalty points and tesla can bill him for idle time at the charger.

@jeffg9706 7 күн бұрын

It's clear to me that the man didn't want to park in the standard bays as they are smaller, It's the same when people park in Disabled or mother and child bays because they are larger, The fear of someone denting they're car makes them behave that way.

@ndudman8 9 күн бұрын

I got attacked a few months ago, for continuing to charge (needing to block in an ice vechical that refused to move), we have law which clearly states he shouldn't be there, and are now following up with criminal charges as everything was caught on camera :)... important to stick up to yourself, don't worry about the conflict :) In my case there was only 1 charging space... and he wacked me on the neck... was quite piseed off when he realised he'd have to wait :) I was hopeing for something a bit more dramatic :)

@Batsran 9 күн бұрын

As an EV driver it isn’t uncommon to discover this happening however when looking at the video the bays don’t seem to be marked in any way. We can see the V4 chargers but I suspect some EV owners would not spot them let alone ICE drivers. We didn’t hear the conversation but is there not a chance they just parked in what appeared to be extra wide bays? I notice at Aldi locally the bays with charging posts are not marked up or restricted so anyone can use them. Ideally the CPO should insist that the land owner enforce parking restrictions. Unless they are occupying the last bay I think it’s best to not confront, unless this was more about getting click bait footage that l can see you have monetised.

@chrisw3771 8 күн бұрын

I've used this carpark, you have to go out of your way to park in these bays and walk quite a distance to get coffee. Couldn't mistake them for anything other than charging bays.

@GruffSillyGoat 6 күн бұрын

Councils (this seems to be a council run car park, looking online) seem to be deploying Tesla's public charging network in places to drive up local charging support (offering cheaper rates for those without home/work charging). However, these tend to be mixed use parking/charging bays on a first come first served basis, rather than modifying traffic regulation orders to restrict the parking. In a way this is a positive sign for EVs are it's increasing access and normalising the role of parking bays as additionally supporting charging; which can only accelerate the roll out of destination and community charging. It also means there is less ammo for those anti-EV to make noise about loosing access to parking due to EVs. Hopefully, being the UK most people will be courteous and ceed bays to those needing to charge, if other parking bays are available but it requires EV owners to likewise be polite in asking and only doing so when appropriate.

@jeffreycooper8408 9 күн бұрын

One possibility, he might have just wanted to get somewhere far away from everyone else while they had their lunch / coffee ? Loads of charging bays available, so his / her brains didn't see a problem. ?

@David-bl1bt 8 күн бұрын

There appears to be plenty of empty regular bays less than a stones throw away. Just an a$$hole thinking it's a clever way to make their point....the world has many of these people who it seems enjoy wasting their life in this manner.

@Koulis_ 8 күн бұрын

Andrew Till had a similar experience on his KZbin channel where somebody thought he was filming them, the difference was they just happened to get in shot. I think this guy took exception to you filming them. It doesn't excuse his behaviour but it may be the reason he started filming you back.

@djtaylorutube 9 күн бұрын

Saw a parked Tesla Model S at a Gridserve a couple of weeks ago. He had been courteous NOT to block any of the Tesla stalls and not charge so instead did so at a Gridserve.

@bnb300 9 күн бұрын

Saw a Polestar at the Trentham Tesla chargers just parked not plugged in blocking a stall, add that to two non-Teslas parked in the wrong bays, as their ports are on the wrong side, and you have 3 chargers blocked at a busy time. BTW I'm a non-Tesla owner and know which stall to use.

@salibaba 8 күн бұрын

@@bnb300boils my piss that

@TheBermudabob68 8 күн бұрын

I've taken photos of cars that have ICEd charging bays in the past, and sent them to the email address on the sign saying EV charging only. Some threaten fines, but i dont know if Tesla does.

@iridemountainbikes 8 күн бұрын

Why would you even joke and pretend to use your car as a weapon? Had he misjudged that he could have actually floored it and hit you, this alone should be enough for a letter or further action from the police. This is unbelievable pathetic behaviour from anybody, let alone an elderly person. My children 9 and 12 would never act in such a disrespectful manner, glad you managed to avoid actually getting injured by that ridiculous pathetic man.

@caterthun4853 9 күн бұрын

Never argue with idiots because they always know better.

@williegalt1484 9 күн бұрын

Perhaps he has shares in an oil company, also I remember someone getting upset with my (long ago) filling up with LPG at half the price they were paying. If I were to block a petrol pump I would expect to be treated much more harshly than someone blocking a charger.

@dorsetandy3873 9 күн бұрын

Is he not committing an offence simply by parking in an EV charging place? I often see signs that say spaces are reserved exclusively for EVs whilst charging. Motorway services are generally quite hot on infringements of parking regulations, however, never been to Rugby Services.

@johniooi3954 9 күн бұрын

All they can issue is a invoice with invite to pay. Unless they want to take them to court, which rarely happens.

@GruffSillyGoat 6 күн бұрын

The is no restrictive signage as such shwon in the video so these are not (yet) dedicated charging bays, which it why some of the EVs are also in them parked without being plugged in. Given that mixed use charging/parking is used in the UK, particularly at destination chargers, it's best not to assume bays are reserved for charging only, as such has to be sign-posted explicitly in the UK. If this was signed and a council/train operator owned car park, fixed penalty notices could be issued with legal enforcement possible. If private only a psuedo-penalty, charge for service can be issued. However, this looks like a free retail outlet style car park, so most likely is intended for mixed use. Hence it's bad manners at best, although given the number of charging spaces available this isn't even likely in this case, to park in these bays as it prevents local charging particularly by those without the ability to charge at home/work (which in part these community orientated locations seek to support, particular if a council run retail car park).

@741255 8 күн бұрын

Something similar happened to me last weekend in a Tesco car park. Lots of empty bays but a guy parked his car in a charging spot right in front of me, deliberately going there. When I pointed that he parked with a combustion car there and that's an EV bay he went out of the car "f.... k you" and entered the store. He stayed there a good time of 20 minutes. At his return he looked at me very proud and provocative. Pure idiocy.... I wrote to Tesco describing the situation but Tesco do nothing about this. There are so many idiots with empty souls that need to feel important and they fill their lack of attention and respect with haters for things.... Feel sorry for them.

@paulconnolly4483 8 күн бұрын

What an absolute numpty. I understand if the car park was full. Some people are not happy with the EV mandates in some countries, even if you don’t like EV’s this behaviour is just ridiculous.

@markwringe2826 9 күн бұрын

I often see ICE cars parked at the Tesla open-to-all and Chargeplace Scotland chargers in Fort William. This area is for buses, HGVs, and charging - not for cars other than those charging. Unfortunately, two or three spare bays which are obviously intended for cars waiting for a turn on the chargers do not have an EV logo painted on them. One of these spaces is at the right hand end of the Tesla chargers - the ideal space for me to choose in order to charge my Kona without occupying two Tesla bays. It really would help if they were marked 'EV only'. These spaces are the closest to the bus and rail stations and back of Morrison's - car parking is a longer walk. I used to challenge drivers with no blue badge parked in disabled spaces at my local supermarket. One day an engineer had parked his van in the space while in the store to fix a fridge. There were plenty ordinary spaces available, not much further away. I asked him to move, and he aggressively refused. I spoke to the duty store manager who was stood beside him, but he clearly did not want to say anything negative to the guy fixing a fault in the shop. So I said I would take a photo, wait a while, and e-mail it to his company. I did. I later got a reply assuring me there was no possibility of this happening again, and implying that he had been sacked. I didn't feel any regret. I'm not disabled, but I used to take my late mother shopping there, who did have a blue badge, and who really couldn't walk far.

@MrGMawson2438 9 күн бұрын

Cheers Dave

@prjackson7802 7 күн бұрын

Great video. Quite often at Trentham Gardens people park in the supercharger spaces without plugging in. Plain ignorant. Thinking of taking pictures of the reg's & passing on to Tesla. I don't know if they can issue fines as they would to EV drivers that overstay.

@robertgamble7497 8 күн бұрын

I see it as a form of insecurity. They can’t understand something, so they try and prevent you from doing that thing. Also it may be fear, they are afraid they’re going to have to change, and they don’t like change.

@mdshovel 9 күн бұрын

I ignore them for my own good and temper, you never know what could happen next, but have witnessed one heated blocker take a swing which got him knocked out by the EV driver. Was entertaining and passed the time whilst I was charging. Have also seen a long, large transit van pull in at a diagonal across 2 charging bays an walk off into the services.

@truebrit3670 9 күн бұрын

At least you can tell your friends you met James Bolam's grandad. What an ugly situation that was.

@seekerstan 9 күн бұрын

I wonder how the ice drivers would feel if EVs were parked blocking all the petrol,pumps? When I lived in Hawaii, they made a law that only 1 motorcycle could park in a parking stall. Soon after early in the morning, an organised group of motorcycle clubs rode into town and took every parking place, then police aligned with their cause ticked all the cars that parked between them. The law was quickly rescinded.

@johnmcconville6055 9 күн бұрын

Report him to the police.You have video evidence of him using a mobile phone when driving.

@keithkarenward 9 күн бұрын

It happened to me and I also got abuse when I pointed out that he was parked in an EV bay.

@robinhood4640 2 күн бұрын

Lots of people don't like do-gooders, especially when there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for them to do good.

@evinterest6348 8 күн бұрын

I wonder if the ICE driver would be as gracious as you were if you parked in front of pump.

@ianemery2925 9 күн бұрын

I would have opened with "Hi, do you have a problem with the car?" Giving him the chance to make his excuses and leave without a confrontation. Worst I have had - arrived to find the only bay where a car wasnt charging, blocked by an ICE car - left empty with the engine running. When I started taking photos of it, the owner rushed out of the Costa Coffee and got aggressive - would not admit that leaving a car unattended with the engine running is an offence - or that there was a problem ignoring the free parking spaces to park in a charging bay; as it was several feet (no more), closer to the Costa. I gave him a choice - I could post the clip on YT - calling him an ignorant twat (I am 6ft 6 and also not a 6 stone weakling), or I could call the police and report him for the traffic offences - he went to his car and drove off.

@gavjlewis 8 күн бұрын

Im not sure he blocked a charger on purpose. I just think he bought a coffee and chose those bays so he could watch the coming and goings, and they are the best spaces. I just think him being challenged upset him and he didnt like it. Upset people do act odd unfortunately. Well hopefully he will put this matter behind him and not block chargers in the future. Although there will always be people who once challenged may do it more often. But I guess if we are challenging people for blocking chargers then we probably should include the people blocking the wrong bay on Tesla sites open to all. Tesla could help here by putting the bay number (1A,1B) on the floor of the space as many new people probably genuinely don't know which bay they should be using.

@AlanMacdonald-on6nd 2 күн бұрын

Should have reported to police driving holding a mobile device

@JuicyJohnEV 6 сағат бұрын

I think you’re overthinking this. To be honest I imagine the man man in that video in question probably didn’t realise it was an EV bay given the age of him and his passenger. By you recording him that was probably deemed by him as the first act of aggression and therefore he came back to retaliate but thought best of it

@solentbum 8 күн бұрын

I wonder if the man was actually responding to your use of a camera. There are many people who misunderstand privacy laws and seem to think that you cannot film them in a public place. The first shots you showed had the man sitting in the car drinking something, possibly he was 'unaware' of his blocking action. He would have got very defensive after you spoke to him , hence his aggressive drive off. It would also explain the 'getting his own back' by using his camera to film you. I had a similar situation when I remonstrated with a driver who was parked on the footpath near to a school, a common problem for which the Traffic Wardens often attend. When I took a photo of the vehicle to send to the Traffic Wardens as evidence, the man got very abusive and launched into a tirade about 'Human Rights, and EU laws on privacy, etc.

@solentbum 4 күн бұрын

There is a second possible explaination :- Did you accidentally come upon a secret meeeting , was it a lunchtime tryst and the man thought you were a 'private eye' or similar? You may be surprised to know just how many such 'meetings' take place in public car parks at all hours.

@tonydoc903 8 күн бұрын

This is a common occurrence, some people just want to argue the fact they can park wherever they want. You can’t stop people parking in charging spaces . Confronting the man is exactly what he wanted. Should have totally ignored him as if was charging. That would have frustrated him more and his partner would have looked even more embarrassed than she was. Typical Ken and Karen.😂😂

@gerrymac5865 9 күн бұрын

As a ev driver I have experienced lots of ICE cars parked in charging stations even when there are plenty of free parking spots available, at my local train station there are six 7kw chargers and the chargers are placed close to the station door so I suspect it is just laziness with ICE drivers not wanting to walk a extra 20 metres. Can’t wait till they need charger and are blocked 😂😂

@adrianwood2566 9 күн бұрын

Some people just thrive on confrontation. It is possible he knew who you are and wanted to wind you up. It’s also possible he was hoping you’d say or do something on camera. Not worth opening yourself off to potential retribution Dave. If there had been low availablity of chargers and you needed access fair enough, but you don’t want to be the headline in tomorrow’s papers cos some head case stuck a knife in you. I don’t think there is anything you can do to educate these idiots and they are challenged less and less. Heard from someone who works at one of the big supermarkets they have got shoplifters just filling trollies and walking out. They have been told not to challenge them for their own safety. We will be back living in the Wild West if this continues. On a separate note I do smile when all these people reckon their ice cars are good for a million miles and they will never buy an EV. No problem then is there! Or they say they only ever pay 2 grand for a car and everyone that buys a new car is an idiot. They don’t seem to understand that at some point someone bought that 2 grand car from new. I fear we still have a way to go before we reach ‘peak numpty’ unfortunately.

@johnfranklin6394 9 күн бұрын

I was at Trentham Gardens on Saturday, and despite the place being crowded with shoppers, the Tesla spaces were only being used by charging EVs. There were 15 bays free when I arrived around 3pm, though it got a bit busier over the following 20 mins while I charged. Even the V4 chargers were a challenge for an EV9 to use. The Kia that pulled in next to me was so huge that the owner struggled to get the cable all the way around the back to their charge port on the rear offside. This was made harder thanks to the citing of the V4s to the back right of each charging bay, and not perfectly in the middle of the bays at the back as some other V4 locations have them. I think this was necessary due to the bays not being deep enough to site the V4 chargers at the back of the bays. That Kia would definitely have been sticking out into the service road if it had not been able to reverse past the V4 charger.

@GruffSillyGoat 6 күн бұрын

The EV9 is a little too big to be practical for the UK roads/bays etc. and I say this as a EV6 owner which isn't exactly small either (although smaller than many ICE estate/saloon cars).

@thelifeofbatteries2603 8 күн бұрын

I didn’t see any signs to say they must be kept clear for charging. Yes I am an EV driver…

@grahamcook9289 6 күн бұрын

I suspect he parked there, not to spite EV drivers, but because it was the nearest place in that carpark to the McDonalds opposite, especially as his passenger appears to be drinking a McDonalds coffee. As there were plenty of free EV charging spots, he probably thought why not, especially as we won't be there very long. Given that there were so many free EV charging spots available and that no EV driver was being denied the chance to charge, I would have said nothing. That's probably why you got a bad reaction. He probably thought you were just a job's worth. I would only have taped on the window if all other charging spaces were full with charging EVs and you wanted to charge your vehicle. My advice to you is to pick your fights wisely and be reasonable at all times.

@TanksRock 8 күн бұрын

He just has issues, plain and simple. And you pointed out he was parked somewhere he shouldn't have been parked, how dare you. Report him to the police, they may not do anything this time but if he is a frequent offender (and most likely a road-rager), it could make a difference in the future

@GruffSillyGoat 6 күн бұрын

The UK have mixed-used (parking or charging) bays as well as dedicated charging-only bays in operation - signage indicates a restricted use charging bay, which don't appear to be present in the video.

@peteappleby3881 8 күн бұрын

I had this at Gretna Service all the apple green chargers where blocked with ICE vehicles and I got lot of abuse from the drivers, yes it was very busy but no excuse

@Cardifftoyboy1 8 күн бұрын

Idiotic. This could result in a criminal charge on at least 2 counts. He could forfait his insurance if the insurance company get to see this. His driving licence could be revoked because he obviously has serious anger issues. Also ,and this is probably the most worrying,: This will now be all across social media with his clear picture and details and we all know where that could lead as Karen in America found out.

@seekeroftruthandjust 8 күн бұрын

Ice cars are being outlawed and banned by 2030 so yes I am being forced into an EV

@universeisundernoobligatio3283 8 күн бұрын

Still miss your horse?

@universeisundernoobligatio3283 8 күн бұрын

I’am sure he has a ICE youtube channel where he goes on about those crazy EV clowns.

@st200ol 9 күн бұрын

Just looking for an argument, you gave him what he wanted. In that situation it would have been best to leave him alone, he'd get bored if everyone did the same and probably stop doing it.

@David-bl1bt 8 күн бұрын

It looks like granny and grandpops are enjoying their retirement leasurely sipping their coffee with nothing particular to do but to sit and study those white newfangled petrol pump thingys😂 Bless their cotton socks😂 I'd have knocked on their window with a smile and ask if they needed any help.....to find the exit😂

@chrisrussell418 9 күн бұрын

Maybe all the disabled bays were full otherwise he would have parked in one of those

@DaveVantage 3 күн бұрын

A lesson for your there, mind your own business, don't get involved in randoms when you don't have to. There were plenty of spare chargers.

@GeorgeFoot 8 күн бұрын

You're a handsome chap, I'm sure he just wanted a video to remember you by 😊

@chrisw3771 8 күн бұрын

Sadly this is the level of stupidity amongst a great deal of people, I can almost guess what party he votes for.. The public chargers I use most are at Bridgend services, probably once a month at most yet I have seen the same van repeatedly parked lengthways across 3 apple green bays when there at different times in the day. I even saw him arriving once & spoke to him, he just laughed & said 'because I can' , even spoken to staff there and they aren't bothered. Perhaps it's time the ANPR cameras that are everywhere are used to bill for misuse of parking spaces.

@markfiddy395 8 күн бұрын

Could this have been a person looking to cut the cables for the scrap copper value? It would explain the decision to ignore the empty spaces, could also explain the aggression? Maybe he was just waiting for the other 2 cars to leave before commiting th3 crime?

@PeterEvans-k7v 9 күн бұрын

It seems to me to be an act the everyday ice driver E V hater would do there is no reason for it or even an excuse. The logic or lack of it can't be explained,I as an E V driver don't go around inconveniencing Ice owners or blatantly lying about their mode of transport. It must be some deranged notion they have.Thank goodness the world is not full of people like this I can only assume they would vote for Trump

@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 8 күн бұрын

You put a camera in this guys face and then say, why are you parked here? What were YOU trying to achieve? Filming people without permission is at the very least rude. By your own statement, there were plenty of spaces available both for EVs and real cars so who gave you the right to challenge his parking when it clearly didn't affect you. Banging on someone's window, camera in hand can be seen as aggressive. EVangelists tend to come across as holier than thou, mainly because of the forcing of an unrealistic model of transport on everyone when one size doesn't fit all. They have their place, they also have their problems. Personally, on the whole, I'm ambivalent about them. It would not fit me because I have nowhere to charge. The nearest public chargers are nearly 2 miles away and spending hours waiting there for a couple of hundred miles of range, is a total waste when 5mins or less gets me around 600 miles of range FOR ROUGHLY THE SAME COST! Also, I'd have to buy a new car to replace my 10yr old one so the economics just don't add up either. EVs are great in tos and cities so long as the charging infrastructure is there, but in rural communities like mine not so much. People in the village do have them and they run cables across the pavement to charge creating a trip hazard. (How is that responsible?) I think it should be live and let live. The EV is no more ecologically sound than an ICE car and they should be able to exist side by side without government dictats.

@davetakesiton 8 күн бұрын

Hey watch the video again. I approached the car without my camera and talked to him politely first without any camera. Only after his abuse did I get my camera and start filming. Different scenario entirely

@ianjames3078 8 күн бұрын

I just think he thought you were videoing him to show everyone he was in the wrong……went away, realised he had a camera and went back to give you a bit of your own. A knob but don’t think it was really anti EV at all.