Furious MP demands apology from James Cleverly for calling his constituency a "sh*thole"

Labour MP Alex Cunningham was asking the Prime Minister about poverty levels in his constituency during PMQs when a microphone picked up what sounded like an MP stating that the constituency was a shithole.
It was later confirmed that the voice belonged to the Home Secretary, James Cleverly.
Mr Cunningham raised a point of order after the Autumn Statement to find out how he should proceed.
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[@TheBigMidweek1889]

Cleverly's insult will be an apt description of the whole country if his party remains in office much longer.

[@AceBanana100]

To late!

[@drhfuhruhurr4253]

Labour will speed up the process.

[@danshaw3239]

except their gated estates

[@seanjones180]

​@@drhfuhruhurr4253nice try

[@alisonburgin7348]

Well stated! That's exactly what they think of the people who they work for.

[@dianeglanville]

they are a disgrace get them out please

[@paulwebster4499]

My wife and I watched Cleverly going into Number 10 this morning on the sky news clip. Anyone who also saw this would have also noticed the Cleverly paused when he knew that the cameras were on him. He came across as a pompas twat who was full of his own importance. His comments confirmed our thoughts

[@SugaaShani]

Stop voting tories then

[@brendanpmaclean]

@@SugaaShani Most people didn’t.

[@paulwebster4499]

@@SugaaShani who did 🤔

[@sheilaroddick5853]

Not me.

[@RonanThomas]

Such language from any MP not 4/5 years ago would be calls for an immediate resignation. In fact they themselves might have even resigned immediately. Standard of politicians has gone to the dogs.

[@gazman9468]

And that would be if they used the words in a public place when they didn't think they were being filmed. It's unbelievably that an MP of ANY party can describe another MPs consituency as a shithole in the house itself and simply get away with it.

[@glenmason1876]

Can you remember if you are that age, anyone doing that in thatchers government, and getting away with it

[@Sovereign-kh4ng]

Power doesn't corrupt, POWER REVEALS... it is revealing evil every day.

[@AR-ii3ly]

Even the dogs have standards. The tories are just utter scum.

[@david1731048]

Why are people constantly shocked to find out the Tories think poor folk are scum?

[@user-zr6ee6lb9m]

I'm not shocked about that. I'm shocked that there are poor people who vote for them when they couldn't give a rat's arse about them and see them as useful idiots

[@Murffytalk]

So this is his attitude to children in poverty? An apology doesn't work here. Resign!!

[@luminousfractal420]

Eugenicists

[@tyranitararmaldo]

@@luminousfractal420 we have seen as much from their comments during the Covid lockdowns.

[@keithmarshall45]

Spot on 👍

[@shmug1968]

Yes, either resignation or sacking is a must!

[@ianshaw5766]

labour run sh'thole 100% true, 34% child poverty rate. and he's worried someone has called him out

[@JLaw954]

As usual the Speaker defends the indefensible. She's saying that Cleverly surely didn't use that word. Based on what? Nothing!

[@fordprefect1925]

She’s not the speaker. She’s the deputy speaker and a tory.

[@gotMylky]

How can she prove it was Cleverly in that moment?

[@emmanuelacharithayamim3627]

@@gotMylkyHaving had prior notice of the question, as she stated, the dp could have examined the recording herself.

[@MrJaspett]

​@emmanuelacharithayamim3627 The recording is hardly clear that it was Cleverly.

[@gotMylky]

@@emmanuelacharithayamim3627 I have no idea what the speaker/deputy does (task wise during a PMQ day) but I'm sure that they wouldn't have had time to examine the recording and know 100% who it was in the time between PMQ's and this debate. I have no doubt that Cleverly said it but claims like this need to be checked thoroughly.

[@lacross2759]

The lady speaker has called him a liar, saying that those wasn't the words used. How does she know if they couldn't be heard in a noisy chamber? It's sickening how the tory government covers up for one another.

[@michaelfoy]

Pathetic.......

[@gothicgolem2947]

No she said they didn’t hear it

[@sirmeowthelibrarycat]

@@user-mc3kp2mq1m🧒 Mummy here! Time for bed! It is way past your bedtime 🧸!

[@ianshaw5766]

34% child poverty sounds like a labour run sh'thole to me.

[@caboosealmighty3735]

​@@ianshaw5766it's almost as if tories funnel taxes into areas where they work / live.

[@jasonk7072]

She could offer to have a look at the video and audio recordings and assure that if these allegations are supported by this evidence action will be taken, but instead went for the weak, spineless option.

[@dianamincher6479]

Takes no meaningful action-it's ridiculous?

[@kevbrown2532]

Having been pre warned that this point was going to be raised she should have already either checked herself or had some check it for her. Instead choosing to do nothing is irresponsible and gives the ok for Not So and others to continue with more of the same in future.

[@gothicgolem2947]

@@dianamincher6479what action can they take?

[@gothicgolem2947]

They did not hear it tho

[@gothicgolem2947]

She could have this isn’t the weak option tho and besides I’ve listened to it you can’t tell who said that

[@davidhenrywall8619]

James cleverly is a disgrace he should be sacked , because he's an Conservative who is an a habitual liar.

[@SugaaShani]

They will all be out soon if God is as good as i think he is.

[@YA-hm5zy]

Aren't they all?

[@KlaraZoom]

All the tories are.

[@lelly323]

James "Not So" Cleverly, as he's know as in his Constituency.

[@wanderingbrummie]

Being a habitual liar is pretty much a requirement for holding a cabinet position in this government

[@cameronclarkhull]

if there is video and audio evidence, it should be reported

[@glenmason1876]

To who

[@highdownmartin]

I heard it. Everyone heard it. Knee jerk reaction from a Tory; lie

[@lesley-annemclelland857]

Nice to see that the Speaker is still as useless as a chocolate teapot. As The M.P. said the audio had been checked numerous times and "Not so clever" Cleverly was apparently clearly heard to say "because it is a shithole." Anyone worth their salt would, when this sort of allegation is made, even if they did not actually hear it themselves, would surely contact the relevant body to get a full audio of the incident so they can check for themselves. Oops I forgot the Speaker's job is to first and foremost protect the Tory party and its ministers no matter what the cost!😡🤬

[@shafzz]

Fully agree, both the speaker and deputy speaker are useless as fuck

[@StickyBud9395]

Yes, it's not really difficult for her to listen to a recording of what he said, but you called it she has to protect the Tories, or whatever any other toff says.

[@selesius4591]

She was lying

[@lokischildren7862]

She's a Tory

[@Logan0324_]

its the deputy speaker btw

[@pip1723]

Nice to know what the government think of us .

[@luminousfractal420]

Way worse. Spend 10mins reading on eugenics

[@richardwhittington6401]

just confirming what we already know about our vile, treasonous excuse for a government!

[@ispy3836]

You never knew?

[@richardwhittington6401]

@@ispy3836 Oh yes but good to have it confirmed publicly by one of the vermin😃

[@patriciahiggins9188]

Not surprised are you?

[@markkirby2282]

cleverly is the most arrogant pillock in that house

[@momo8200]

Such a farce, if the Speaker didn't see or hear something, it didn't happen. MPs should be forced to return to parliament, apologize or correct the record when they say things like this or lie, under threat of suspension from parliament.

[@Warbsy1990]

If it's the case that football matches and other televised sporting events are held to a higher standard when it comes to confirmation of something than when compared to our law makers, that would be pretty worrying Especially as it's probably one of the most heavily microphoned and camera covered rooms in the country.

[@sheilaroddick5853]

Obviously the cameras and sound systems are switched off when they are describing another mp's constituency using bad language and when there's drugs about.

[@gothicgolem2947]

They can’t punish people if they didn’t hear it there has to be proof or they heard it

[@sirmeowthelibrarycat]

@@gothicgolem2947😠 The words were recorded and the audio checked several times. What more do you want as verifiable evidence of what Mr Cleverly said?

[@occamraiser]

Yes the Speaker chose the wrong course of action. This wasn't someone calling someone else a liar under his breath - which Speakers from time immemorial have chosen 'not to have heard', this was an insult to a whole town / constituency and there are 30 or 40 thousand people he needs to come an apologise to individually. I await my turn.

[@Frank-xj2cb]

Good ol' deputy speaker. As much use as a chocolate fire guard

[@anthonymichaeldurkin6244]

or teapot....

[@unaitxo]

Clearly, not all are "honourable members".

[@Rich.H68]

Scott free as usual, Hoyle and this prat are a huge asset to the tories, sack them both

[@markcordwell2035]

Sadly in this country some places are,and it's a disgrace it's been allowed to happen.

[@selesius4591]

You've got gophers like her covering for them 24/7

[@jasonk7072]

This is surely a question for the next PMQs, if they think places are s***holes, why is this and why haven't they done anything about it in almost 14 years.

[@SugaaShani]

Haha cause we as a nation are too weak to hold them accountable

[@brendanpmaclean]

@@SugaaShani I think the real issue is that there is no robust means of holding politicians accountable. An election every five years is useless if you cannot challenge under performing MPs or sack those who fall below the required standard within that time frame. We either need something of a revolution or better, serious political reform starting with removing the system that allows a government most people voted against from holding an unassailable majority in the House of Commons.

[@g.pmoore4293]

By the Tories

[@Clarke_Al]

I think it’s a disgrace and insult to the ‘honorable’ that 90% of the house dare to use it. We are an embarrassment on the political stage.

[@jamesbowskill362]

The easy way forward is to play the tape.......END OF ! If so, recrimination will follow.

[@luminousfractal420]

Remember the judge who handled kyle rittenhouse in the usa, said video was not evidence to be used in court because its gone through a digital device. Theyll come up with any old bull.

[@JDBxtr]

Makes me laugh they talk about rules of decency but the are a bunch of crooks who lie through their front teeth and they call it inadvertently mislead the house. That place is not fit for purpose.

[@luminousfractal420]

Theres no honour in that house. Pomp is not honour.

[@michaelturner7949]

The pomp and ceremony in the HoP is not in keeping with the standards of its occupants.

[@Zoro007]

If indeed it is a s...hole the Tories with their mismanagement and austerity have no doubt greatly added to it. Shameful thing to say about anywhere when in an elected government, shows he has no respect or compassion for the voters.

[@sheilaroddick5853]

To come close to being a humane person you have to have a heart.I rest my case.

[@vaxxoff]

No it was a shithole under Blair too.

[@ianshaw5766]

its labour run' , what do you expect

[@Jericho642]

Imagine with they say in private. Get these crooks out. Election now

[@luminousfractal420]

You can research it, they werent always so quiet. Look up eugenics and eugenicists

[@Anon-xd3cf]

Did you see what the former Obama aide did to the Egyptian streetfood vendor? It's like all their masks are slipping off now. I mean... If you can openly defend genocide... What is actually off the table?

[@dw-yl3ln]

Oh well, if he didn’t hear it it can’t have happened then.

[@Prowindupmerchant]

These clowns are something else 👽

[@jamiemcnern7651]

The MP behind Alex really nails that intake of breath there, perfect delivery 🤣😂

[@paulwebster4499]

My only words are Angela Rayner terminoligy for the Tories is 100% correct,

[@jasoncooper9391]

Yes tories are scum

[@verystripeyzebra]

Remember the outrage from the Tories about that, and she wasn't even in parliament when she said it.

[@brendanpmaclean]

I believe her description is remarkably polite.

[@Benjiesbeenbetter.]

"That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party that inflicted those bitter experiences on me. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of first-class people to semi-starvation." Nye Bevan, architect of the NHS, speaking in 1948. It's well worth looking up what else he had to say.

[@ricardoortez9812]

He was a visionary. He knew exactly what the Tories would try to do.

[@trevorstanding6462]

No accountability for any of these scoundrels because they know they can get away with anything.

[@cathlaurs9754]

There are no depths to which Tories will not stoop. OUT!

[@michaelgoode9555]

Everything you need to know about a Tory is encapsulated in this one incident.

[@ianshaw5766]

34% child poverty labour run,

[@nowgrownup]

Labour Party are far worse 😂😂😂😂😂

[@joshdawson5850]

@@nowgrownup you’re going to cry in the next election

[@bereal6590]

Unbelievable just shows what they think of us all

[@rogernevin7461]

That's nothing to what we think of them !

[@Mark-Haddow]

Us all? I'm from Edinburgh. I doubt an MP from Braintree, where the crime rate is in the top 10% within Essex, would have the nerve. A crime rate higher than the city of Glasgow, for comparison.

[@cliffordcook7539]

He must have been looking in the mirror when he made the sh*thole comments.I only hope the people of Stockton and the Northeast remember what the government think of them and their towns

[@geraldaird9390]

Considering the Brexit Party stopped the Tories winning Stockton North in 2019 it is not a very cleverly thing for him to say.

[@PaulineWatson-yc9vi]

Stockton's just like many towns in the north decades of North/south divide have taken it's toll . If your north of Watford g ap you don't matter

[@1revjay]

He said it was on tape, just listen/watch it.

[@onlyme8117]

AI?

[@1revjay]

Of course, what was I thinking? @@onlyme8117

[@brusselssprouts560]

So apparently the MP is clearly a liar or hard of hearing. There needs to be gigantic reform of our democracy, asap.

[@SarahRickard]

🎯

[@cesiumalloy]

Vote reform....

[@colintuffs568]

One less day to the election. We will remember 😊

[@malcolmstockbridge2569]

The British Public never seem to remember !

[@Benjiesbeenbetter.]

​@malcolmstockbridge2569 All the Tories have to do is get their mates in Fleet Street to print stories that immigrants are stealing people's false teeth and they'll get in again.

[@GraemeRoberts]

"He is clearly unfit for his high office" could apply to every single man on the front bench. Not an ounce of talent or compassion between them.

[@RsR6969]

Just seems par for the course with this lot ‘running our country’. Every week virtually there’s some scandal or negative comment(s) connected to this government. Must be something about that position. First it was Braverman and now just 10 days after replacing her, Cleverley has been hit with the same foot in mouth disease as she was infected with. Just 11 months ( hopefully) and counting till us long suffering members of the public get that chance to put that cross on the ballot paper.

[@enz2439]

Politicians without manners

[@neilg6675]

James the ironicly named

[@adampowell5376]

Clearly this us a very bad government that does not keep even to basic levels of professionalism,

[@StephenFiorentini]

0:34 Love the reaction behind him 😂😂😂

[@Gavin48]

Clutching those pearls

[@MrLaking123]

typical torie standing up for the Tories

[@colinstephenson5386]

Hello MrLaking I can see entirely where you’re coming from here , But and there’s always a but the speakers actually a Labour MP , He was voted into Parliament when he contested Chorley , remember the previous speaker Bercow he started of more to the right than Arttila the Hun ( sorry me cannot spell his first name correctly ) a Member of the really horrible young conservatives and then becoming a Tory MP , he ended up being ostracized by his own Tory MPs partly because he appeared to favour the opposition ..?

[@colinstephenson5386]

Oops MrLaking I thought it was the main Speaker. ( the guy with the silver mop ) the posters were giving down the banks too , I’ve no idea who the Lady is,

[@colinstephenson5386]

@@soulsaver369 dear soulsaver you are the second person to tell me Hoyle is a Conservative, I’ve just checked for a second time and it still says he’s a Labour MP , the Fella collected the most votes to win the seat of Chorley , please check it out for me please , I’m beginning to think I may be going MAD ?

[@Benjiesbeenbetter.]

​@colinstephenson5386 I've checked as well. You're not going mad. The refugee from Last of The Summer Wine is indeed a Labour MP.

[@ddlee84]

@@colinstephenson5386 You are correct Hoyle is a Labour MP, the issue I have is that the deputy speaker who is in charge of this part basically said "The speaker didn't hear the remark at the time, so regardless of the fact you have said you've checked the audio, it didnt happen" which is the total arse about face way of dealing with this situation. If the audio has been checked, then find Lindsay Hoyle in his chambers, make him listen to it and then come out at the next meeting and demand that the home secretary apologises. Its fairly simple, but all the guff an puff of parliament seems to put a total stop on bloody logic.

[@Bearsio]

“The alleged words were not actually used.” Being as he is an honourable gentleman if you are due an apology, you’ll get one. I’m quite sure you won’t get anything but more of the same. It must be a requirement of the job of Home Secretary to be the worst person imaginable.

[@3ddieLowFilth5layer]

Defending the indefensible again - what a SHOCKER said no one. Ever. If not-so-cleverly was walking around the constituency he insulted and members of the public were insulting him I’m sure he would expect someone to do something about it. Tories don’t need to concern themselves with such things though - they are above the laws and rules of Parliament and prove it every time there is a debate

[@lesmarsden2058]

Perhaps the time has come for VAR to be introduced into the House of Commons?

[@heidi2927]

Covering up for the clown, dispicable!

[@spherelance72]

Fine so Hoyle didn't hear it but if the audio is clear then surely Hoyle can act upon it?

[@runklestiltskin_2407]

Speaker didn't hear it, it didn't happen. /s

[@GerryT.]

Hard to hear anything when you're asleep.

[@Simba65315]

Well we know now that the speaker is only there for the drama.

[@bryandavidson6386]

"I can make no judgement..." and intend to do nothing about it. Useless

[@mike-myke22]

James Moronly.

[@peterfox2538]

That sums the Tories up and what they think of us.

[@luminousfractal420]

Eugenicists

[@starmersbarber]

I've heard the audio elsewhere. Although the word has been bleeped, it's so clearly audible enough to be checked unbleeped. I wonder what Hoyle's reaction would have been if 'liar' had been been picked up on audio? He would probably have gone ballistic!

[@missmac530]

How dare he say that about my Town. He needs to apologise in the House and come to Stockton and apologise.

[@silverlakeas]

That would be this whole government

[@bereal6590]

Hoyle never hears or sees anything, the guy needs to be kicked out

[@user-jv9vw3bi5k]

If that is the case what is the point of Hoyle OKA the speaker? The man is a complete waste of space.

[@rogernevin7461]

Likewise his stand in ! The cloth-earred Bint !

[@luminousfractal420]

We deserve a refund

[@lily_m3538]

Cleverly is an example of the contempt that many MPs treat their constituents with.

[@jamessteel9016]

That’s the contempt they have for the plebs

[@ohno521]

Oh dear , hes really dumb 😂😂😂 not cleverly at all 😅😅😅

[@rogernevin7461]

If he's Clever (ly), Larry the Cat should be PM.

[@JohnClark-ew8dh]

Hold on, the speaker claims she cannot make a judgement yet when addressing the point earlier stated the that words had not in fact been used as the MP believed. Is that not a judgement then?

[@catgladwell5684]

She's a Tory. She'll defend them.

[@Rob99933]

Boot him out immediately using a statement like that who does he think he is to me he is a complete disgrace!

[@luminousfractal420]

Hes a shit in a suit 🤷

[@allanmcdowall6568]

None of them have an ounce of honour.

[@lonestardavid]

Well done Mr Cleverly for your honesty, we all know what the Tories think about people north of Watford, and we are resigned to them having this usually unspoken view, at least now we are able to prove it thanks to James Cleverly's honesty.

[@neile9435]

Just go to show how archaic our government is. See no evils hear no evil.

[@njw1383]

Never before have I seen a person rebel so hard against their own surname!

[@mollycuddle9990]

Detest Cleverly. How dare. Good on ya Mr Cunningham , shame on you lady speaker.

[@AdrianCartersheffield]

Well, she absolutely bottled that one.

[@Benjiesbeenbetter.]

Towards the end, she sounded like she'd been hitting the bottle.

[@flossydonnellon4893]

Typical of a Tory Token Gesture, Cleverly has always been a Tosser

[@antonysmith9173]

Honourable members of Parliament seem to be a contradiction in terms.

[@Billywizz1950]

Cleverly was in fact just describing the Tory party

[@slightlyconfused876]

Surely it is a case for VAR.

[@beverleybrooks8247]

What's the point of the speaker?

[@AKAMustang]

Should also remind the dishonourable members.

[@pamlewin3041]

Well the public heard it and we are not in the room.

[@williamkennedy5492]

Our current crop of pollical Eejits are not fit for purpose , just how we ended up with these people as MPs i simply do not understand, the selection process must be really screwed up.

[@MartinCawley-xy1lo]

Typical cop out

[@NVofus]

Let's see if Sky News, The Daily Mail, The Telegraph make a tsunami out of this, compared to what coat an MP wears at the cenotaph!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@philbateman1989]

Found the clip so you don't have to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5jVkKyjo6ikaNk Cleverly can clearly be heard saying it right after the question, and the camera was right across the chamber. How the speaker "didn't hear it" is mind-boggling. Selective hearing comes to mind.

[@colintuffs568]

Write down the names of those fit for office. Ha ha ! 😊

[@rogernevin7461]

Enoch Powell.

[@raymondwebb2029]

Once again its the wet lettuce reply

[@barrydaly7174]

The Theatrical Intake of breath "AHHH" from the Woman behind though. Uncle Albert GIF....

[@stop-the-greed]

So much for honourable members

[@grumpyoldgit8254]

Monster Raving Looney Party, its the only party left worth voting for.

[@antonysmith9173]

The monster raving looney party are already in,and have been for 13yrs!!

[@katebradshaw9280]

No cool, had the job for a week and a half...

[@robertjsmith]

Enough is Enough

[@johnsanders2266]

He's unfit for any job! Let's never forget his disgusting 'two faced' actions in Northern Ireland - I WON"T!

[@deanjames2476]

Speakers should not be chosen from a party system that way you will get independant speaker who will not be seen to take sides

[@luminousfractal420]

Seems to me it should be a member of a party not in power.

[@brendanpmaclean]

@@luminousfractal420 Or indeed, a member or members of the public. We are who they serve.

[@JustBerib]

​ @luminousfractal420 Weird that you make this comment, given that the current speaker, Lindsay Hoyle is a Labour MP. The deputy speaker in the clip is a Tory.

[@deanjames2476]

@JustBerib my point exactly its benefits both parties

[@HuplesCat]

He is honest though 😂 14 years of Tories does have an effect

[@An-Alien-On-Earth]

He's right, I've been there and it is!

[@a13xdunlop]

There is no low they will not go too.

[@top5betterfact477]

Absolutely disgraceful. How can they say such things about children. It’s disgusting.

[@PhilipBaker-sf4yv]

He was pitying the poor children being brought up in a labour constituency. Very humane of him really

[@LeafHuntress]

@@PhilipBaker-sf4yv Either loosen that blue coloured scarf to finally get some oxygen to your brain or very much tighten it.

[@T27FRL]

These MPs are pretty much grown up children themselves. Especially with the way they behave in the House of Commons

[@Sovereign-kh4ng]

@@PhilipBaker-sf4yv Deliberately underfunded by the Conservatives, so they can blame Labour. You cannot give somebody nothing and then expect them to make a mansion out of it.

[@nicmatthews9721]

@@PhilipBaker-sf4yvafter 13 years of Tories in govt 😂

[@nigelwalker6103]

"Honourable gentleman" 😂 Yeah right. We need to stop using such archaic terms for those who are, in many cases nothing of the sort.

[@cesiumalloy]

I suggest Cuntservative

[@simoningate2056]

The comment was made from the front row of the government - the apology should be made in the house. Maybe Radio 4 Today should interview him tomorrow morning "The minister was not available for comment" is the likely statement.

[@carleaston2177]

They ain't honourable!

[@starmersbarber]

What happens if it's totally clear that Cleverly did actually say that? It would surely make the words of the deputy speaker sounds a bit foolish.

[@Benjiesbeenbetter.]

Worse than that, she has indirectly implied that the complainant was lying.

[@pottboy3544]

Digusting

[@SimonPeters]

Jimmy Dimly is not fit for high office, or indeed for any office at all. Instead of being demoted to Home Secretary, he should have been stood down by Inaction Man Sunak.

[@barney12531]

If there is evidence of a recording of the MP swearing in parliament next time, the Prime Minister is in Parliament should the recording be played to the whole house what the PM is there and he can explained his colleagues actions on the recording Parliament!

[@dogkicker100]

been in the job a few days messed up already ,vote these out asap

[@alexanderwallace50]

Alex Cunningham is a hard working honest man who I knew before becoming a MP and I agree with him that the use of that word is an insult to his residents. MPs need to learn, as some bawl, behave like hooligans, read their phones, shout over the speaker, that people will never give them respect while they act in this way. For a Home Secretary to utter those words dishonor those who went before him.

[@DeShark88]

I don't think those before him had any honour either. Cruella Braverman and Priti Patel... I don't think we've had an honourable home secretary in a long long while. And that's in spite of having 8 different home secretaries in 8 years under this shower of a "government".

[@itsmememene8953]

Wholly unacceptable

[@FatWhiskyDrinkingGuy]

Yes, the world is laughing.... thank you UK.