How bad is the rust on the other side of the Crown Vic cop car?

[@rogerdickens2539]

Well done, get it repaired, don't worry about suspension etc being upgraded drive it.

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

Yeah, I agree

[@simonbailey2151]

So much respect for you doing your own welding, and on the bloody driveway too. You should have more subscribers.

[@Beechams1042]

Hope you can get the Foam Vic back on the road, and back to solid metal, soon!

[@charliemansonUK]

As a former Drill Instructor, I used to tell recruits if they were looking for sympathy to go find a dictionary....and they'd find it between shit and syphilis 😂😂😂

[@jeremywinkfield8523]

Brilliant.

[@БранимирПетров]

Major Payne?

[@charliemansonUK]

@@БранимирПетров nah just a lowly Corporal Punishment 😆

[@andrewmurton8379]

So glad you getting back on with the Crown Vic, very much looking forward to seeing you get it back on the road. Keep up the good work.

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

Great to see the crown vic again and a great little tinkering video as always Matt.

[@ablestringer9063]

Maybe have a fire extinguisher on hand when welding near the waxoyl areas just to be on the safe side. Glad to see it isn't so bad on the driver's side probably because it was not in the gutter so much.

[@anthonystevens8683]

This was great to see Matt, some more progress on the Crown Vic is always good to watch, this one ends on a happy note that the driver side is nowhere near as shot as the other but there is still plenty to be done. It would be great to see the car back enjoying the open road in the future, she sure has been through quite a journey since the discovery of the foam monster bodge. Back in the day buying an older car was a lottery to se how much of the car was P38. I used to carry a magnet to check.

[@PB200559]

Great news Matt. You've earned it.

[@tides2002]

It has to be said that the application of spray foam and filler has been masterfully done, the bodge (con) must have taken long time to perfect that could have been used to do job properly.

[@furiousdriving]

I thought that, would have been easier to do it properly

[@paulcost6446]

Had the same thought myself

[@DirtyDanMunicipalMan]

Good work man. It’ll be that much sweeter knowing it’s been fixed properly by your hands. Keep it up and thanks for bringing us along.

[@DogDaze66]

You Sir are an excellent welder and better than most. You are the 1 percent.

[@T_Smooth_]

Yay another Crown Vic video finally! ❤ Good work on the repairs so far. I like how it's nice and sunny and birds chirping when you're done recording 😂

[@seancooke7332]

Sterling Work Matt. Puts me in mind of the fantastic Smiley Face Ford Transit at 7 to 8 years old on our salty roads. The strange thing was that a van with 60,000 miles needed parts of the chassis legs cut out and replaced with new sections wheras a similar aged van with 160,000 miles only had superficial rot along the sills, front wings and door bottoms. Go figure, does the extra mileage clean off all of the road dirt from the underside??

[@bobstacey9311]

Welding outside, Dave’s Garage who is building an escort Mexico did a test and found that unless the conditions are absolutely calm & still then flux covered ( gas less welding wire) produced the best results

[@andrewthompsonuk1]

I have come to the conclusion you must have at least one body double to generate all this content and keep all these projects going.

[@furiousdriving]

If only, thats my next project

[@luceatlux]

Here I am, checking your channel once in a while because I am super invested in your Crown Vic

[@dannork1240]

Oh yeah- check inside the trunk where the drains are. They get plugged with dust/silt and then water sits in the join between the trunk floor and the fenders. The trunk carpet hides this area really well unless you pull the carpet out and look down there. I really wish I could post pictures on here to better explain this! The big flexible bumper covers really hide this area well from outside too.

[@stuartgreenwood9304]

larger gas bottle was the best move I ever made, and I only went for the smallest Hobby weld size ( Hobby weld nearer supplier to me than Adams and have a gas mix I prefer) lasts for ages and with a better regulator makes for better setting of gas flow, plus you can see how much gas you have left.

[@arieplomp8906]

What an odd construction! That the inner and outer sill are so close together! A real rust trap as it appears! Rust proving it will not be easy! But at least it’s not as bad as the other side! Job well done for now Matt! 💪 👍🏻👍🏻 🆙 like allways!

[@TheOracle65]

Great news that this side of the CV is much better (even though it is still full of filler in places...), hopefully with a little more nice weather, welding and some weather sealing you can get the Crown Vic out on the road with an MOT and attending some events this year :-).

[@LeakSprungGarage]

Lovely work Matt very pleased for you it's better! Hobbyweld bottles are also brilliant value and I can vouch for those.

[@danielrussell446]

Well done Matt so pleased to see the progress on the crown vic and that the opposite side was a lot better

[@Mirage8v]

Good to see and hear, can't wait for more Crown Vic adventures!

[@fhwolthuis]

Great work, Matt. Good that you did the bad side first 💪🏼😄

[@furiousdriving]

At least its out of the way!

[@Mariazellerbahn]

Regarding foam, Jaguar XJ's had all their hollow parts filled with foam to make them quieter. However, it made them rust quicker and the foam had to be removed before they could be welded.

[@furiousdriving]

Same as on Alfa 159s

[@simonfindlow7478]

Interesting video Matt, looking forward to the next instalment, cheers

[@iandennis7836]

From the gas point of view, (Welsh) Dave's garage has been pretty pleased with flux cored welding wire...just reverse the polarity of the feed wires and you're away.

[@focusrssteve]

Great work Matt, keep it up, You'll have her back on the shortly.

[@davefrench3608]

I bet you are so pleased that you started on the other side. That looks quite reasonable for a 22 year old car from the salt belt.

[@dannork1240]

Do you need help sourcing body panels? I have this car’s sibling (Mercury Grand Marquis) that lived its life in Minnesota so it’s pretty crusty underneath. I’ve been collecting panels for mine so it’s not difficult. There’s actually a few places you can get fenders/wings and they made so many of these there’s quite a few in scrapyards still. I just found your channel so how about the intake manifold? Have you had to replace yours yet? There’s a few known issues with these but if a hack like me can fix it myself, you shouldn’t have any trouble! Love the channel, keep on having fun and sharing with us!👍🏼

[@TheCounty90]

If working outside, you can get a heavy duty gazebo to give some protection. I have a Gala Tent, commercial grade with weights to hold it down. Got mine second hand but worth having around.

[@skyll4141]

Good work mate. you can get flux core mig wire which you can use without gas if your welder supports gasless wire. check first.

[@allanmollison6971]

Making great progress Matt, keep up the good work 👍

[@uhn100]

Well that was good news for sure Matt compared to the other side I am sure you will soon have the metal formed and all welded up good job and good luck best regards Andy Allen.

[@big2868]

Greetings from Glenn in Cleveland Ohio USA! I have never seen one these Crown Vics so rusted. The reason it was more rusted on the right side is because when the roads are salted in the winter, all of the salt and other debris is thrown to the curb (right side of the road) The right side is driven through salt puddles and slush. Right side flat tires are more prevalent as a result of road debris.

[@furiousdriving]

Hi Glenn, yup, we have rustier left sides here for the same reason. I wonder if you ever drove past this car in all the years it was patrolling near you?

[@big2868]

@@furiousdriving Beachwood Police Dept is just a few miles away from me. So, it is entirely possible that I passed it or it passed me many times!

[@tedhuges8275]

They don’t call them cowboys for nothing. Still looks a nice car. Keep the good work up.

[@robertristinge4385]

I `m thinking new quaterpanels, I did that 30 years ago on a Ford falcon aussie made.

[@andrewthompsonuk1]

The Aussie Ford Falcon et all had expanding foam added to some of the box sections from the factory so they could get a few stars when ANCAP was introduced in the 90s.

[@furiousdriving]

they used it in the Alfa 159 too, and they rust where it sits in the sills!

[@LeftIsBest001]

Where's your evidence of that? 🤔

[@andrewthompsonuk1]

@@LeftIsBest001 it's just something that I remember reading in Wheels or something back in the 90s. I think it was the model after the EA. It was only the front pullers. Before ANCAP Australian cars were poor on safety (with the exception of the HQ Holden) and both Falcon and Commodore had to improve fast.

[@dudleycollyer3181]

Stop messing about with those small bottle and look up Adams gas and get a bottle from them loads cheaper, all you need is a regulator and I had a pipe adaptor. It will cost about 25 for the regulator and less than 10 for the adaptor and the gas depends on what size you choose but even the smallest one last loads longer than those small bottles. You do like cutting small bits, if you make them larger you get cleaner metal to weld to do it might be a bit more welding but it's nicer to weld so actually quicker and easier. Also I suggest you put masking tape on the door to give a bit of protection from splater or grinding sparkes etc. and if it were me I'd jack the car much higher, ideally so I'm sitting to weld rather than lying down, comfort is very important for good welds, and stop alot of aches etc

[@profrumpo]

You deserve a bit of luck with your various motoring woes, good to see the rot wasn't as bad. More power to your two grinders 😆

[@edwardbish6058]

Glad it's not as bad on the driver's side, what rust converter do you use?

[@Mariazellerbahn]

On quite a few American cars of the 70's and 80's, the windscreen water drains down through the A pillars and along the sills to an outlet at the rear of the sill. This outlet gets crudded up and water stagnates inside the sill to accellerate rot. The insides of those sills are also just bare metal with no protection. If yours is one of those cars, it is best to block the top drain and let the water fall away over the inner wings onto the floor. This stupid idea was supposed to stop rust with a constant flow of clean water through the sills. Filling with foam will make the problem worse.

[@paultaylor9652]

Never trust a Yank car sales person, is a lesson learnt from Matt.

[@AutoAtlantica]

That largely depends where you are and who you’re buying from. Pennsylvania is generally a far better bet for used cars than Ohio.

[@dblissmn]

just as many crooks in the UK as in the US. What most of the US is missing is any equivalent to the MOT. Check the wikipedia page on "vehicle inspection in the United States" but it's basically the states with "periodic safety inspection required", especially those like Virginia with an annual inspection, that you want to be buying used from unless you have very good access to the car to inspect it yourself or have someone inspect it for you.

[@davidhinkson8856]

Happy to see you get back to the Vicky.

[@benjones1917]

What a relief its not as bad! I should probably get a big welding gas bottle too, i spend a fortune on the little ones. Oh and jealous of the two grinders, i seem to spend most of my life looking for the disc tightening tool that i just put down round here somewhere 😂

[@leuvenlife]

Just a heads up… Smiths of Bloxham have a crown Vic if you need parts.

[@furiousdriving]

Oh? Thanks!

[@techiesky]

6:25 there are 2 bolts that are supposed to be there. Same with the other side.

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Hairy? Well you have had some such moments with this car so I guess it is a fitting name.

[@furiousdriving]

Harry! Like Bosch..

[@rimmersbryggeri]

@@furiousdriving Yes naturally but still you have had some hairy moments with this car and what the fun in not having them?

[@danieleaton1399]

The vic is coming along nicely, youd expect the drivers side to be better as its the other side that goes thru the puddles and standing water , id order a regulator from machine mart and get it delivered

[@shmavitz]

Why dont you weld with flux core? Especially as you seem to usually weld outside. Wire is a bit more expensive but easily cheaper than using gas overall.

[@furiousdriving]

Ive heard mixed results but might give it a go sometime

[@terryatkinson899]

I've done it with flux core because it's all I had. Frustrating to use and very dirty welds. Metal has to be very clean for best results. I'm with you on the 2 grinders as it's a ball ache changing discs.... would love a welder like yours but we can't have everything 😭👍🇮🇪

[@shmavitz]

I've used flux core loads and had some great results, especially outdoors where MIG would be challenging.Takes a bit of practice but can give very strong and clean welds. Horses for courses I guess.

[@terryatkinson899]

@@shmavitz I guess you are better than me at it, my first welder is a stick welder which is much easier to learn. I couldn't afford a decent mig so then Lidl were selling flux core and I bought it, I found a brass brush cleans up what I'm welding as I go along. The amount of smoke and filth it makes 🙄 Best bit about it is it's cheap like me 😁👍🇮🇪

[@thughes52]

Progress matt cars looking better on this side crown vic back on the shortly then 👍💯....

[@manganvbg90]

Will you coat the underside and convert any surcace rust?

[@DogDaze66]

99 percent of welders could not match your ability and determination. Cheers!

[@KiwiStag74]

Oh, you've got to be feeling good about that sill not being as bad as the other side - I don't think we saw the characteristic grimace of "that didn't work out as planned" all video, mate! I'm ever so glad though (about it not being as bad). A few small patches, a couple of reconstructed end pieces and a lower front wing patch and you're done! Probably a good thing you haven't put the sill cover on the other side as it gives you an easy reference to what you did last time if needed. Just one observation - I'd cut the outer sill hole slightly bigger than any inner sill patch needs to be so that it makes it easy to weld the new steel in place.....but mate - what a comparatively easy job, eh? Of course, I say that and then Murphy comes along and waves his Wand Of Despair..... I'm no stranger to THAT happening either! I'm sure the bugger has season tickets to my right shoulder when I am working on one of my own classics! Great to see such a huge grin on your face, mate. I bet you never thought you'd be happy about having to deal with sorting rust, eh? Haha! I hope it goes swimmingly from here on in and the beast is back on the road and burbling its happy song in your ear as soon as it can be. A V8 is a special thing and its unique sound is something us blokes find anthemic and a source of much soothing. There's not much that beats it when you're out and about.... All the best, Matt.

[@БранимирПетров]

Matt, you do know that moisture have already gotten between the two steel layers, and the rest have already started, even if you don't see it? Patching this up will only delay the rust. This needs both layers of steel wholly removed and welded again.

[@furiousdriving]

thats why ill be ingesting rust neutraliser liquid inside

[@БранимирПетров]

@@furiousdriving I hope it's a good product then. Still, rust converters work well with surface rust (thin layer), but not with scaly rust.

[@Mariazellerbahn]

The gutter side of cars always corrodes faster than the offside. All the grit and salt concentrates towards the gutters.

[@hubalahu]

Out of curiosity, would the finished product be similar to what it originally was?

[@furiousdriving]

Im trying to keep it as close to original as possible but theres a plastic sill cover to hide everything

[@andypicken7848]

A lower wing made of shaped expanding foam and painted to match the body. Ten out of ten for ingenuity that lol

[@larrykenny]

i have a 2011 Ford Crown Vic PI and i tried to spray some oil down into the sills but they were full of foam! did Ford make them this way?

[@furiousdriving]

No, unless they started to at the end for NVH reasons

[@anakinskywalker4113]

I’m loving all the content at the moment. however I know I’ve said this before but when are we going to see the Mercedes W123 it seams to be getting very lonely back there. 🤞

[@furiousdriving]

Soon as this is back on its wheels

[@anakinskywalker4113]

@@furiousdriving no pressure I’m just impatient & a Mercedes Benz lover. Its awesome watching all the fun stuff at the moment.

[@Phiyedough]

I suggest you get a diamond disc for the angle grinder, they do last for years.

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

When will the W123 be started?

[@LeftIsBest001]

5% of the vehicles volume consisted of expanding foam. 😛

[@AnthonyBrown-jm4rj]

Yay! Happy dance time? 🙂 Well done.

[@stefencooke]

Are you planning on bringing the Crown Victoria to Rustival 2

[@furiousdriving]

maybe if its running

[@stefencooke]

@furiousdriving well there is around 4 months so there is a chance be nine if u can as I do like the look of the car and haven't seen it yet

[@GoldenCroc]

As a connoisseur of the "just rolled in" youtube channel as well as many other similar stories, the American Penchant for expanding foam is not, sadly, very surprising anymore.

[@classics144sportscarschannel]

still have one of your mugs from wen u had a stall at margate car event oh so retro. sits in my car cabinet. shame u still have more issues of the crown vic. ;-(

[@furiousdriving]

Its getting there

[@classics144sportscarschannel]

@@furiousdriving brill .taking u a lot f money to sort properly

[@verved1]

What are those rust treatments products? Thanks.

[@furiousdriving]

VHT rust converter and Bulldog rust neutralising primer

[@verved1]

@@furiousdriving Thanks Matt I thought you said VHT just couldn’t quite make it out. 👍

[@furiousdriving]

@@verved1 I get from Frosts normally if you can’t find it

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

The car needs its own channel (or series) and sticker… “Foamy Rust Grinding”…..

[@blairoutproject]

They saw you coming ! Remember- dont be like Furious, do some research first before parting with your money.

[@Zeem4]

Nothing beats the joy of doing up a rotten car and finding that entirely by chance, you've done the worst side first. Weirdly on my Peugeot Expert project, the driver's side is much worse than the passenger side - because French?

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Great work Matt

[@krissjacobsen9434]

Man, what a relief!

[@charliecoco2115]

Rename this channel to Furious Grinding 😊

[@jasoncornell1579]

Did u use the tea shelf?

[@furiousdriving]

multiple times

[@رامینخسروی-ق3ش]

چرا hubcaps رو وصل نمیذاری

[@d.c.Jones70]

Hmmm just imagine someone thousands of miles away that you have never met and never going to see again lying to about a car your buying from them.

[@techiesky]

If you need parts for your vic, i am here in vegas and can work on getting them to you if you want. I will also email you.

[@furiousdriving]

Thanks, I don't need much but those sill cover trim clips would be useful!

[@Comfortzone99]

I think you would probably know them as 'rocker panels' in Vegas what we call 'sills' here

[@terryatkinson899]

Just remember with rust, if it's black it's coming back... unless you cut it out 😮👍🇮🇪

[@lesklower7281]

More wire brushing and cutting preparing for welding l am surprised that the box framed chassis isn't rusty were as with the pick ups there box framed chassis rusted away especially in the rust belt and Toyota spent billions of dollars replacing the chassis on there utes

[@williamwales6619]

Looks like you have finally cut a break on this beastie. You were due one. A few good days of welding and you could be raggin it roon the neighbourhood and pissing aff yer neebers.. Hope ye are not gonna let Mrs Furious loose on it. On another note my car insurance renewal is due in a couple of weeks ,Have you checked oot whit this thing costs to insure.?? Laters 👍

[@Ashfielder]

The Brown Vic rides again!

[@kevinnye5132]

Matt one serious question ? What’s a DICTIONARY ? 😁 I think if I knew what it was and had one I would be able to look up what a dictionary is lol 😂

[@furiousdriving]

check your thesaurus for it

[@kevinnye5132]

@@furiousdriving What does it have to do with Dinosaurs 🤔

[@blupupher]

Wow, this was horrible, and you say the other side was worse? If you (or others) are buying and shipping vehicles from the US, stay away from any of the rust belt states (most of the north eastern/north central US). Any states from California to Florida on the Gulf coast tend to be pretty rust free. I have 2 CVPI's that were both from Texas, one is an '03 with 112,000 miles, the other is a '11 with 180,000 miles, and only the '03 has a little rust on the roof where the paint peeled off. Frame and rockers are just fine.

[@ianstewartorr8455]

I hate dishonest people I hope you can fix the crown to a good condition again can you not report the person that done that bogus fix greetings from Scotland 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@furiousdriving]

Theres no one to report to, it's a car dealer in a different country, in a state with no inspections. Its a con but nothing can be done

[@ianstewartorr8455]

@@furiousdriving please be careful I don’t like being ripped off neither

[@jameskyle380]

So glad to see your CV rust isn't as bad as the other side. My 1996 Volvo 940 will need the battery tray area welding at some point. Be great to see you driving and enjoying it again.

[@paulloudbbk]

How come you use red oxide over a zinc primer ?

[@furiousdriving]

Ive not used zinc primer yet, the red is rust protection base coat for places not being welded

[@LeftIsBest001]

I know it makes it harder to talk, but please wear a mask! I worry about your lungs. 👍

[@ianjenkins4641]

What is with KZbinrs naming cars!? Surely you will just replace both front wings? Rust from the inside out so the rust will be back before you know it.

[@furiousdriving]

at $500 each for shipping alone, no new wings

[@ianjenkins4641]

False economy not replacing them. Do it nice or do it twice! Talking about spending money on making it faster. Spend the money on doing the bodywork properly

[@furiousdriving]

We're talking over £1200 for a pair of wings that can be repaired with a repair panel, which you cant see has been repaired on the other side

[@ianjenkins4641]

The arches are already bubbling with rust. This will be from the inside out. Your repair will last less than 18 months and the rust will be back. Hey up to you if you like wasting cash

[@furiousdriving]

@@ianjenkins4641 I can cut out and repair that, If you want to PayPay me a grand Id happily replace them, but you seem to be ignoring the fairly significant cost of replacing the wings

[@Timberwulf2]

I would name it the "Titanic" as it makes you sink all your money in to it as it goes down.

[@truxton1000]

Well the welding part is not really expensive, just very time consuming!

[@garygriffiths2911]

The old girl is still a cool car and worth all this time and effort. But we really should be all that surprised by this level of bodgery because if you have ever watched a KZbin chanel called 'Just Rolled In" you will soon learn not only how appallingly some American drivers maintain their vehicles , but also just how bloody unscrupulous parts of the US garage trade can still be - worse I think than you would commonly find over here nowadays. A case of 'buyer beware' I suppose.

[@homemechanic86]

No ear defenders or dust mask, hearing protection is important

[@furiousdriving]

Im wearing in ear protection, the black things in my ears

[@homemechanic86]

@@furiousdriving ok

[@MrGaryRoberton]

Hey, it could be worse, some of the aluminum body trucks are corroding away after 6 or 8 years....Not one of Fords better ideas..

[@andyarmstrong1493]

It's disgusting what the seller did.

[@Jamesthesnail]

Hooray for coffee

[@dalemurphy9731]

I would pretend I was robocop !

[@sjcuk]

I think you are too nice. The seller of this car needs naming and shaming. I watch US KZbinrs and most I see are decent honest traders who would be appalled at what has happened to you.

[@mrcogginsgarage7062]

Henceforth known as Matt 2G. Ask yourself the question that if I do that sill how much less work will I have next year ?..

[@skimmingstoness]

At least foam can't rust lol