FURY WITH KING TIGER - CHALLENGE! Can it Still Be Done? - WAR THUNDER

[@SldOnEmWithDa45]

It’s actually pretty funny how that shot managed to surprisingly ricochet right off the tank like it did in the movie. We all know that shell had no business doing that, but it’s almost as if dumb luck really does exist 😂

[@ReichWarLord]

It actually shot instead of AP ,it is recognizable by the way the shell reacted w/ the armor

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

That 1st part though was basically an entire recreation unintentionally XD Beautiful I gotta say.

[@wonghy1115]

It was entirely intentional lmfao shot for shot

[@humanhuman5024]

@@wonghy1115except the part where the tiger 2 somehow non penned the Sherman 76

[@wonghy1115]

@@humanhuman5024 didn't that happen i nthe film? in that same spot or something

[@humanhuman5024]

@@wonghy1115 it was not supposed to happen in game though

[@wonghy1115]

@@humanhuman5024 mhm

[@VicolGrigore]

Awesome video. May I suggest that for future videos, a scoreboard of how many tanks/airplanes remaining is placed in a corner of the screen, to keep track easier of how many are left. Thanks ^^

[@VunderGuy]

I second this motion.

[@toucanman1372]

This

[@johntuffy5721]

ditto

[@jerameelinit341]

5:56 Muffin: How?! Warthunder: Magic

[@drip.th.7618]

I​ think he ues HEAT​ shell.

[@thejason1054]

The director knew about how the tiger 1 shouldve shot the leading tank then the last in the collumn but said in that "If he had killed the leading tank that brad pitt was in, roll credits"

[@FM-tw9sb]

I always think that they could have simply put him in another place, like even in reality I wouldn't have put the best sherman to lead the group. But maybe there is a reason.

[@thejason1054]

@@FM-tw9sb well he wasnt in the front at first, the lead sherman was destroyed by a panzerfaust and then Fury had to take the lead. I dont remember but im also sure that War Daddy was in command of that tank collumn after the panzerfaust incident

[@Tripintrios]

@@thejason1054it was a M18 at the lead not a sherman

[@thejason1054]

@@Tripintrios Are you fucking high?

[@thejason1054]

​@@Tripintrios are you fucking high

[@cannon_1239]

I love how in the movie the Tiger hitting the side of the Sherman should have killed it, and in the game it did the same thing lmao.

[@Gutenburg100]

Sometimes luck is just on your side lol.

[@halodude4481]

@@Gutenburg100in the case it’s literally on his “side”

[@Nativeat1YT]

Beautiful editing muffin, was a very fun event to partake in. Thanks for the little shout out also :)

[@west_adv]

Who has won the final round, shermans or tigers?

[@donovanchau3483]

You should recreate Fury, but with vehicles of different countries, like how would a couple T-34s with 76s and one 85 do or how’d a couple Cromwells do, etc

[@Muckychips]

The Chieftan actually commented on this scene. His explanation was that German doctrine at the time was to take action over inaction. Seeing as the Tiger had its position covered with smoke and could not longer see, it had to move to continue engaging. He also stated that if anyone made poor decisions it was the Sherman's for not splitting up and attempting to engage on multiple fronts from the very beginning. Side note, it was Tiger 1 in Fury, not a King Tiger(Tiger 2)

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thanks for your comment and interesting to know. Also the purpose of this vid was to demonstrate what would happen if Fury faced a king Tiger instead of a Tiger like the scene to see if the outcome would have been any different

[@Swagmaster07]

Man did u even read the video title?

[@pugs-r-awsome]

@@Swagmaster07 honestly tho like wtf dude read the video title? And awesome video thunder with muffin definitely gonna sub

[@whispofwords2590]

truth be told the shermans or really any tank are always going to be at a disadvantage caught out in a field like that.

[@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb]

And they were to hit the lead tank first then the rear one , trapping them and once 76s and fireflys were main targets

[@VunderGuy]

Awesome. Now do this again but replace the tiger 2 with an IS-7.

[@wolfcommando8467]

Could you do the third round again, yet with all the Shermans having to parade around the map only on roads, with the tigers waiting to ambush them at their own leisure?

[@angkaiyangethan8486]

urban maps will help increase the chances of the shermans because the germans are forced to brawl in close combat where the sherman cannons can be effective, if it was a field map, it would be a point and click adventure for the german tigers

[@leotruuut245]

That would be fun!

[@jakedavids9017]

It'd be cool too if it were multiple Sherman platoons entering a map with Tigers assigned to ambush them as they'd run along. Having simultaneous confrontations and probably multiple engagements throughout would produce a variety of outcomes.

[@dailyamountofstupidness979]

The Germans will absolutely dominate because they have impenetrable frontal armour on hull and turret while Sherman’s are easy to pen and have no cover

[@ARealItalian]

It would be a massacre

[@huntergames9668]

Sherman had gyro stabilizers which hold the gun stable up to 5-10 mph i believe

[@zjanez2868]

it only really helped to be able to shoot first after stopping 16 kph isnt much

[@Arthur__Morgan_]

@@zjanez2868 it was a lot more at that time

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Unfortunately, gyro stabilizers were such new state of the art technology, that the War Department had the ‘brilliant” idea of Not Training their Tank Gunners how to use them, and not issuing instructional or technical manuals with the tanks… For fear of the technology falling into Enemy hands…. So the overwhelming majority of M4 Tankers in WW2 either dismounted the gyros first chance they got, or simply never used them. The US War Department has a history of thrusting new and experimental weapons onto their soldiers, but refusing to actually train them how to use them, (M4 Gyros) Clean them (early M16s) or holding them in reserve, negating any tactical advantage they might have gained in battle. (Browning Automatic Rifles)

[@thickboi7570]

If the tiger commander was smart in the movie he would’ve destroyed the E8 Sherman first to get rid of the main characters

[@O_0195]

i just see a lil detail,the main tank wasn't a normal sherman firefly,it was a M4A2E8,it's like an uprgarded sherman with the 75mm newer gun and the modern suspension of the time,it was allso provided by a tank museum in great britain

[@Tyler_Flynn28]

It’s got a bigger 76mm the fire fly had a longer 75mm this easy 8 with the 76mm was a big deal it could finally penetrate the nazis armor same with over in the Korean War is Americans used it over there and it was fantastic most of our men preferred that over the bigger m26 Pershing with the 90mm because the m26 transmission and engine were weak af had a hard time in the mountains over in Korea ! Due to the fact the Pershing literally entered the war at the end it didn’t get much field testing so they would realize the transmission problems until Korea since the land isn’t very flat there in Korea

[@O_0195]

@@Tyler_Flynn28 thx for the info! i shure missed some details

[@Lamosamo67]

This was such a fun video to record, minus delays lol. I can’t WAIT for the SPAA. Great vid muffin!

[@djgames3713]

What if Fury was made by war thunder players. By that I mean Maus vs 1945 vehicles from USA

[@GustSergeant]

Luckily for you, there's already a video that muffin made of this exact scenario. Slight spoilers; the Maus doesn't do so hot

[@Wasattsi]

@@GustSergeant “sLigHt SpOiLeRs” *spoils the video*

[@demonkillerdudimanche6066]

a good idea that i think of for one of your video, would be to do a big caliber vs small caliber challenge

[@NotTheBomb]

Mr. Muffin. Idk how you do it, but these videos are amazing! When ever I have a bad day at WarThunder. Seeing these in the feed remind that the game can be fun. Keep up the amazing work, love the new setup of these battle videos!

[@chuckysmith5255]

Fun fact that is tiger 131 and I've had the pleasure of siting in it and getting a ride same as the fury sherman

[@enerjaz6871]

6:46 naaaaaaah, that laugh is something unique 👏🤣

[@umarkahaar2244]

my all time favorite movie

[@KillerT-Bone]

Good movie and good recreation

[@ZombieSlayer-dj3wb]

Ok movie

[@LaYarddog]

Tank doctrine dictates......First shot, lead tank....second shot, rear tank.....then clean up the middle. Maintain distance because of greater velocity and firing range.

[@za5814]

Great video! Modern AA against ww2 planes might also be cool?

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Yep and already in the works being made:)

[@xapocotacox]

This is a great idea lmao

[@real8310]

Nice editing. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING DISCORD VOICES

[@j0ck054]

Ah yes a warthuder youtuber judging a Holly wood movie

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I guess that’s me now lol

[@j0ck054]

@@ThunderWithMuffin I don't judge I almost raged when I saw the movie

[@therussianwulf8105]

Know one gonna say how the E8 was having a hard time trying to get around the tiger 2 when it was reversing? Lol

[@shelbylover1359]

Only difference is that this 76 Sherman actually had to close the gap since it can’t pen king tiger frontally, only from the side and rear

[@roxminegames_rl6541]

bro is just having better and better ideas man like whole fury scene wth

[@apersondoingthings5689]

I don’t think angling armor was common for tanks in that era. That is what people nowadays do in video games

[@tank7275]

well some instructions and diagrams were included in the Tigerfibel (Tiger 1 Manual) which basically boiled down to: angling shows the enemy armour they can't penetrate. in other words, angle the tank. though as far as i know the tiger is the only tank where angling was explicitly taught, so you are right that it's not common

[@aniwan9733]

I just have found your channel and its bloody awesome. I tried searching tips about warthunder anywhere and there isn't good videos that are formal. Can you make a tutorial about this game? I'm just got on Tiger but Idk any technical details. Anyway i'm subbing, too good videos HAHA.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Thanks and to be honest I don’t do a lot of tutorials but my second channel of war thunder best replays has gameplay from the war thunder community that helped me a lot when watching what other good players do if that helps:)

[@TheGrace020]

Lots of good warthunder channels out there that do that my friend

[@theshadowreborn4778]

Fury is a fun movie to watch, if you can suspend belief/don't know much about tanks. But yeah if you think of IRL...it hurts.

[@titan_tanker]

Tiger in Fury is basically 5.7 Wittmann wannabes in War Thunder so it’s actually accurate.. to a certain extent 😂

[@hotelsix4099]

Let’s face it… if it was a real scenario, brad Pitt and his crew would of been the first to die, followed by the rear tank and crew. Then the two trapped and confused in the middle.. end of movie…

[@handtomouth4690]

Would have been nice to see the Tiger 2's perspective on the non-pen to see what kind of shell he used. He may have used HE or HEAT just to keep the tank alive and finish the reenactment. But I guess the good old "War Thunder sucks" joke was too easy to pass up. Also would have liked to see the hit camera at the very least.

[@-Chandelier-]

R.I.P urkindadead you did well and 1 of the best Sherman users in this vid

[@worsttWasTaken]

It only took 2 hours to complete filming :)) i was there

[@Lamosamo67]

Same, I was lamosamo67. It took ages. Mostly to find the right tanks lol

[@gabertricafranca6427]

Let's hope another movie will use the only working King Tiger tank today.

[@sciapcaten]

omg, really nice ! Good job !

[@digitaal_boog]

1:15 to take out the rear tank was also an accepted method. Should have still gone for the 76mm sherman though

[@didrik3631]

I missed this event but i was able to join as a geopard in the next one

[@pazsion]

Very cool shallow deflection is a thing even in warthhunder

[@kristelvidhi5038]

This is why a King Tiger should've been there, fighting Fury with at least 19 other Shermans.

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

Idc what is nitpicked about its unrealistic parts, the movie fury is an awesome one

[@zesterfrost_music]

Maybe Brad Pitt was playing War thunder

[@yuanxinwang8219]

muffin, try a high tier spaa like the 2a6 or adats and have a swarm of biplanes and othe 1.0-2.0 fighters

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Already in the works of being made:)

[@BBB-pk7cm]

in fury the tank "fury" be to have the 75 mm cannon instead of the easy eight that seen in the movie so the tiger scene was written as tho "fury" had a 75 mm cannon.

[@TheKingHanged]

That was a fun event hope to be part of more in the future

[@Lamosamo67]

You kicked ass in round 3 man, I was one of the tiger 2’s in that one

[@TheKingHanged]

@@Lamosamo67 yea I enjoyed it a lot.

[@abdellahiehreimo3402]

Wow this one is well made ❤

[@len1058]

It is unrealistic not to have a Sherman can one shot ore Penetrate an Tiger 2 it's Impossible

[@slycer876]

6:00 he most likely used he muffin

[@markolysynchuk5264]

This is the exact situation where flanking DOES make sense. The 76mm could easily penetrate Tiger I's frontal armour.

[@thevortex6754]

This was a cool video, I love playing the Sherman at that BR just cause it’s so satisfying to kill these Titian’s, I found out tho the the Tiger 2 H is literally impregnable from the front, even with HVAP round. The only exception ain’t very good and it’s the machine gunners port🤣

[@cheetahda1o763]

This is awesome

[@Hillbilly741]

She the thing is with the tanks of tigers we weren’t able to get the exact measurement of armor we weren’t able to simulate the exact hardness of the armor

[@Arthur__Morgan_]

That last sherman was a hero

[@playeriguesslol]

This looks awesome my guy! Now let's see what happens if they faced against a maus (Troll)

[@petep8828]

I honestly expected the shermans to stomp the tigers in the last bit, they just can’t pen the T2H from the frontal arc.

[@BlackSkull1984]

the commander of the Tiger in Fury thinks this was World of Tanks, cuz he always shoot tanks wothout knowing the weaker panels

[@BARelement]

Angling intentionally wasn’t really a thing in ww2 as you don’t really know where all the enemies are. For all you know you’re already angled where your periscope is facing. And then you follow commands from the commander. Not your brain meats.

[@HiroKiselyov]

Tiger Ace (Michael Wittman) V.s Fury with 2 M4 Sherman (S)

[@druggerfuzie3806]

Although the armor is 102 mm thick, the production of Tiger 1's armor It is as flexible and high quality as ordinary steel armor up to 130-140 mm thick. War thunder haven't system quality armour because for balance game. Sometimes simulation games just don't prove comparable to reality.

[@laurentdussault7675]

Awesome video. Very happy i was able to see myself😁😁😁

[@Megax6271]

can you recreate the canyon dogfight of topgun Maverick? (there aren't Su-57 so i thought about the last ones )

[@TetrumRiot]

It’s sad that the fury in the recreations was a M4A2 and not the M4A3 like it should be.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

It was the M4A3

[@TetrumRiot]

@@ThunderWithMuffin in your video it is a M4A2 that was used

[@Bifferpag]

Fury is an M4A2E8 so technically, its impossible to recreate in WT cause the M4A2 76 W has vvss not hvss like Fury did

[@TetrumRiot]

@@Bifferpag the Fury is not a m4a2 it is a m4a3

[@Bifferpag]

@@TetrumRiot Historically, it should be an M4A3 but the one in the film is an M4A2 chassis

[@-Chandelier-]

Good job holding up tiger

[@1918BARsam]

The Fury scene becomes more realistic with a Tiger 2 Edit: Tiger 1 would be a goner at the first 76mm hit. But the Tiger 2 kept its frontal invincibility.

[@leotruuut245]

Fury would work with a Tiger 1 EASILY if the German tankers wouldn‘t be that stupid in the movie.

[@boas7742]

The tiger didn’t angle In the film because they were using a real legitimate king tiger the last in existence and turning it was believed it would damage its treads

[@arturpasztor-buzassy730]

Ok what would you do in this situation if a normal Sherman was leading and the Sherman’s with the better guns were in the middle and a normal Sherman at the back Would you still shoot the first then last Sherman knowing the other two can pen you for Or would you get the better Shermans first And in what Oder would you shoot them Im just wondering because its on my mind every sense i started watching this

[@linuschan1901]

realistically, there wouldn't be any americans or germans shouting orders in war thunder, rather, it would be 'capture the c point'

[@yvosmidt9242]

0:49 why hè didint shoot while hè was standing still is because the was smoke so hè couldn't see

[@makrus1324]

There was only one thing and it was that in the first scene the tiger was supposed to reverse

[@newowner4108]

Basically angling the tank is not a thing in ww2 tankers or modern tankers

[@Jesusavesbro]

Yes

[@charlesverdier247]

For the next video ostwind 2 vs low tier tanks (m2a4, pz35..)

[@cjaydustie1867]

5:57 me in every match of WT ever

[@JustACSGOPlayer]

You guys are the best

[@huga9705]

This is awesomeee

[@vermillion7196]

you should always put the discord conversation so that it would be more fun

[@mooderpcow8614]

I think you were a bit harsh imagining the shots the tiger could have hit as in real life, there are many more part inaccuracies and miscalculations than in WT.

[@raptorjeus5211]

It would be so cool if they did fight a king tiger

[@reiayanami5]

Maybe the commander of the tiger tank is the first breed that say "GeRmAnY SuFfErS"

[@LyricalQuickblade]

3rd round all the tigers should have retreated to higher ground outside of the city and just pick them off one by one

[@pilot_bruh576]

I need to watch fury ngl

[@hawkman302]

You forgot another factor. Warthunder German bias as well. In addition, warthunder is going to do whatever it wants too (not pen when it can pen).

[@flipstheking6464]

What tank did you use for Fury since the M4A3e8 isn't in the game

[@ConnorJMiner]

next one of these type videos you do is it possible to let me have a crack at filming the replay? I've spent a lot of time in war thunder replays learning cinematic strategies + i am very experienced with editing. this is a very cool video but the camerawork/editing flow feels shaky and disjointed. Let me try to help

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Send me some work you’ve done. I’ve love to check it out

[@NightRadar]

Angling wasn't really a thing back then, it wasn't really used and was not teached.

[@JabbaFly]

epic video :)

[@zavir7490]

that was so good !!!

[@KyleEarl-g2d]

Im guessing the king tiger used a HE round

[@hengry2]

10:50 mans not even angling lol

[@larryfontenot9018]

The Tiger didn't angle its armor. Well, duh. Armor angling is a myth made popular by video games like World of Tanks and War Thunder. In real life, the most tank drivers did was to try to keep the thickest armor pointed in the general direction of the enemy. That's because their ability to see out of the vehicle was limited, especially in the Tiger. The hatches for the driver and hull gunner were offset from their seats, so it wasn't possible for the driver to raise his head out while driving. They also had to use real transmissions, steering gear and clutches. They didn't have a-s-d-w keys to instantly move them around. But even leaving the fact that moving the tank was much harder, when a German tank was in battle, it was usually outnumbered and any attempt to angle against an enemy would just mean you weren't angled against another, or were exposing a less well protected part of your tank. But you're very much correct that no German tank commander would have charged at a group of enemy vehicles. Their tanks were specifically designed to fight at longer ranges than their enemies, so if they knew where the enemies were, they'd set up an ambush to take advantage of their strengths. By that point in the war, they were on the defensive and only advanced if they had to hunt for targets.

[@GavinMFR]

I know this was a bit ago, but the Easy 8 should have been an M4A3 instead of an M4A2.

[@2slow2survive]

i think you should decide more if you want show a simulation on a open field or in a city and don't mix them up so much. There is a big difference. Ofcause the weaker tanks have much more chance in the city cause they can hide and atack from close distance where they can pen them. I would find the final round more interesting if they would stay on opfen field to compare it better to the other rounds. Btw. i would find it great when you repeat the match tiger 1 vs Abrams in a city. I think in the city the tiger would win in this majority

[@santiagofigueroabauza6742]

Wait, who won?

[@noahneal7398]

Now this is how the game should be not WW2 tanks fighting 60's tanks

This is genius!

[@jonjustinguanzon6258]

I love this movie thanks for making this video 😊