Fusing 2 Absurdly EXPENSIVE Hobbies Onto A Game Table | Warhammer & Trains

[@thememeguy2195]

You know, when you think about it, the one thing that's been missing from 40k is a massive armored, weaponized train. Really, that's the secret for exponential success.

[@dragonraptor9756]

Look up the squat land train It is literally that but when the squats were removed so was the land train The votann haven’t gotten the trains yet unfortunately

[@JonathanNormandy]

Votann train is a requirement for further human existence I think

[@theholyspiritus4326]

​@@dragonraptor9756I mean if they add a gun platform wagon for the hekaton land fortress it would be a warhammer train on wheels (yes I know its not the same but imagine a hekaton with like 3 wagons all full of guns)

[@Lannister42]

I was thinking about this last night and I'm very tempted to try build one

[@brionl4741]

@@dragonraptor9756 The latest book "Halls of the Ancestors", for Necromunda talks about Ironhead Squat Land Trains.

[@HighMarshalHelbrecht0]

In the grim darkness of the far future,there is only choo choo

[@Steven-sy6nu]

1/35th scale tank models and 40k . I use that scale halftraks for my very Dkok steel legions. Sdkfz 251 etc. Kit bashes

[@brionl4741]

I've been saying for a long time that Model Railroading & Wargaming are practically the same hobby. You are painting models & terrain and moving your guys around the board. The main difference is if you are going "pew pew" or "choo choo".

[@DemonBlanka]

I know when I go to my hobby store I'm always in aw at the cool stuff the train guys have, its just a shame most of it is out of scale for wargaming! There's still a good amount of super useful stuff though, mainly for terrain.

[@steelejack4846]

My play group can’t comprehend that Warhammers the cheapest hobby I got when ive spent $1300 on one locomotive from Lionel…

[@brionl4741]

I think the most I ever paid for a locomotive was $200 for a SP 4449 "Freedom Train". But that was late 70's early 80's so $800 - $1000 today.

[@JacobTheStrong]

Chaos space marine: "brother what's that strange nosie?" (bass boosted thomas the tank engine theme getting louder from a distance)

[@euansmith3699]

"IT IS THOMAS THE TANK engine..."

[@NynIsGaming]

Another certified 'tism classic

[@Atomicmurph]

I think being confused for the first half of the video and understanding the Warhammer side definitely shows something about me

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

Me: "Trains are expensive bu-" Sees the brass narrow gauge locomotive box come out. "Oh dear god that's expensive." As someone who shares the warhammer and train hobbies, love it! And now i also want to combine warhammer and either HO or N...

[@Handi_Crafts]

I got really luck with the some of the narrow gauge brass stuff some were labeled as the wrong brass model but I knew what it really was

[@legobuilder9001]

Awesome to see someone else into warhammer and trains! I'll be honest, since getting back into trains last year I only have 1 HO loco because they're so expensive :(. Haven't gotten to my old stuff cause it's all buried in the attic right now. My way of combining the hobbys is basing! I bought an old plastic O scale locomotive shell and I'm cutting it into 2 or 3 peices to put on bases for my big tyranid monsters. Hopefully it works out!

[@Goblinman64]

My grandpa loved model trains, he had a whole Lionel layout and he wired all the electronic components to a massive board of switches. Even though he barely let me touch it back then, it was still cool from a distance and when he did let me play with switches it was the coolest thing ever for a 9 year old. Love the videos, started watching as a 40K nerd and stayed because the train segments remind me of my grandpa, gone but not forgotten.

[@STSGingie]

Came for the choo choo, cheered when I saw the Big Stompy Battlemechs.

[@ActualDragonTears]

Wooden thomas is the superior thomas, no one can change my mind. Absolutely loved my chest full of tracks back in the day.

[@cwj138]

I used to drive a 762mm narrow gauge railway locomotive and had completely forgotten about that job I did for 2 years. I think this is what a PTSD trigger is like.

[@crazzeecaptian1745]

I have been reshuffling my shelves to fit my 40k minis along side all my Lego, I have my 2nd Battle of Geonosis display now with added Vespid Stingwings

[@Samo-sn5yt]

Not sure why, but i clicked on this thinking it'd be a kitbash to make a WH style train rather than how it could be done - regarldess great video!

[@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber]

You are an edition behind on your recommended table sizes for 40k. Incursion (1000 points) is now recommended on 44x60 or bigger

[@Calaban619]

My other hobby: Nano Arduino electronics/robots. So, easy to combine: remote control driveable Rhino's, with rotating turrets, headlights. Turn signals on a Land Raider. (Arduino has a bluetooth module you can remote control with a smartphone)

[@Helknight02]

Ok hear me out. Vashtorr daemon engine list, but replace all the daemon engines with thomas the tank engine characters.

[@Ultimateprototype13]

Gods, the wooden Thomas the trains are a throwback, I had some of those bad boys!

[@TFZ.]

The more I watch your channel, (Just discovered it...) the more I think I might have issues... Because I TOO have an unrealized fascination with Trains, only I don’t know much because I don't feed it all the time... My obsession with WARHAMMER on the other hand... Short version, I'm liking your channel. :}

[@superblobfish2567]

2 expensive hobbies that hobby expensively together!

[@JaxTheReaper21]

I honestly think G Scale makes the most sense for using in 40k. Considering how a lot of things in 40k are massively over-sized. It would fit right in to the setting. You just have to customize a train to look like it belongs in the universe. And at that point you don't need to worry about fitting it on a board because the train itself becomes the board. I'm thinking back to Unreal Tournament 2003 where there is a combat arena that is a pair of massive trains rolling next to each other that you battle back and forth on.

[@MrSteelface96]

dont think theres a too big train for warhammer. just pick the biggest train chassi you can find and 3Dprint cockpit to 32mm and puut walkways, imperium posters, and other bits at 32mm scale on it :D i mean, warhammer is megastructure worlds, no? :D

[@zazzenfuk]

You made me sub with the measurements of the track and saying * for those of you who haven't been to the moon*. If that isn't the most amazing burn, I don't know what is.

[@craigmobey954]

From Wikipedia: Calculations were carried out using the metric system, but display readouts were in units of feet, feet per second, and nautical miles - units that the Apollo astronauts were accustomed to.

[@euansmith3699]

"For those who haven't been to the Moon" made me chuckle; though, I guess there will be some completion for that in the not too distant future. Battletech/Trains could be a fun mash up. I think that 1/48 works okay with 40k, as the minis bases boost the figures up a bit; offsetting the larger scale of vehicle. "Dillon, you sunnuvabeech!"

[@calibris4220]

I love both these things

[@YMS09D]

Not sure if it helps, or opens a fresh can of wallet destroying worms...but G scale models and the Joytoy Warhammer action figures are roughly within scale of each other.

[@Handi_Crafts]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......

[@captin3149]

I've kickstarted a new game called Marcher by Golden Dragon games, an alternative world where WW1 and WW2 kinda blended together, and has a great aesthetic that has made me want to get into Railroad modelling for bases and dioramas

[@captainhll9661]

Sweet, I could imagine the crazy gun train's in universe

[@malignant_rumor]

Maybe one way to integrate trains into a warhammer game is to build up some lore accurate rolling stock to use as terrain, then make a table with a continuous track to run it on. It'd be like a reproduction of the Darktide level. There's a lot of things to consider with a table like that, not to mention it's the furthest thing from practical, but it'd be a fun setpiece. I can also imagine the trainyard idea with a bunch of tanks and titans in epic scale weaving between cars, and there's a map hazard where every so often a train barrels through

[@callsignapollo_]

After witnessing the mechanical monstrosity that is the geared engine in darktide, i now desperately want a tabletop model of a grimdark-ified ork shay painted red to move at a blistering 15mph

[@2013Arcturus]

Also, the OTHER option for merging the hobbies is have a train table that somehow integrates a portion meant for 40k play, that is accessible while letting the train loop the larger space.

[@AzraelThanatos]

I remember, years ago, building a working train layout as part of a Legends of the Old West table. That was fun there. If I remember right, I'd used some of the cheap toy trains that were sold at various places around christmas that were battery powered, took them apart and repainted them, set it up over a few tables that it crossed through while working as a basic layout when not in gaming use. Lots of cheaper terrain that works rather well for a western thing as well. But, one other thing to consider is that the scales are more of a "general" thing rather than a specific thing on both ends. There's a lot of N-Gage that is closer to 1/144 for various reasons such as diorama purposes since there is a lot of models that use that for things...learned that because I build a lot of gunpla, and a few friends have done things there. The scale is also used for CAV, the mech game Reaper Minis makes and semi-spun off.

[@captainvlad]

Model train guy here, I like war hammer I'minterested in warhammer, but those prices are just too much

[@l33tg4m3rl0lz]

Given how 40K loves to have ridiculously large vehicles, you probably could get away with epic scale minis and an O scale train!

[@globalelite3042]

Epic scale minis and G scale train

[@alpha_rad_storm6489]

as Big D would say. "About fucking time!"

[@damianallen4964]

My grandfather in law passed, back on November. I've unofficially inherited his train room. Thanks for the ideas, insights, and mutual 'tism.

[@rayslover8526]

I literally laughed out loud a few times during this video when ever banana appeared next to a train.

[@Handi_Crafts]

Banana for scale

[@rayslover8526]

@Handi_Crafts exactly. I wonder if anyone saw that and was like, why is there a banana...

[@anthonyroberts3610]

After recently taking a Lionel O Gauge train and converting it into a Typhon Heavy Siege tank for my Iron Warriors. This video appeals to my soul lol. Thank you for this.

[@GameHammerCG]

I wasn’t convinced the effort was worth it to combine trains with Warhammer until you mentioned gaming with the terrain moving. Now I absolutely want a battle in a Munitorum loading yard!

[@crapparc]

Has anybody ever told you you might be one of the first techpriests?

[@davidshea6272]

I'm planning on building a terrain board based on my work shunting yard for 40k/killteam/heresy, rather than going for the full fuctioning set-up just have rolling stock, modular infrastructure buildings on hardstands built into the boards, and shells for the locos rather than the mind bogglingly expensive working models. This video has been a big help!

[@gidofter_lukge]

I like Pathfinder as a hobby

[@grimmtamer1572]

Y'know... this video had me at model trains... then it had me again at Warhammer....... and THEN it got me AGAIN AGAIN at Battletech. Man.... the algorithm got me

[@alasiadarthe001actual9]

Incredible timing. I recently acquired a very cheap and broken RC Thomas and have been adding 3d printed parts to him and printing my own custom track for him. He’s a behemoth.

[@LinkieNecronLore]

Revenn is ANCIENT. Mummy from the TOMBS.

[@kentbarnes1955]

Imagine...I came to a Warhammer focused discussion to learn more about Model Railroading scale than any model railroading site I've visited. Thanks!

[@MagnusDidNothingWrong]

6:36 toot for the toot God, Choo for the Choo throne. In the grim darkness of the far future there is only the algorithm

[@mistypig]

I know I looked at this a while ago, and the modern post-primaris scale is roughly 1/60, which is not any of the train scales you mentioned, but (if you'll excuse this tism) is the same as a Perfect Grade Gundam

[@PhD777]

Tremendously entertaining video! 👍🏻🎅👍🏻

[@moldysporks2233]

This is one of the only videos i didnt skip sections in, and made me fully locked in even if warhammer isnt my modelling tism focus 😅

[@lorenfreak]

The best way would probably be n gauge narrow gauge railways, in 28/32mm scale it would be approximately 0n30. An industrial railway or especially trench railway would fit the themes of 40k quite well.

[@F4ngel]

You could go the other way around. Have a massive train set with terrain and section off a small part for wargaming, that includes a train rolling through. You can then section off a different part for a different game. I can just imagine a reproduction of a small part of a forge world, with trains moving from quarry to smelter with small 1500 point armies battling in certain sectors.

[@gatness]

I think one of the room sized track diorama's adapted for wargaming would be quite cool, hell expensive and rather niche, but say make it IG fortress and logistics centre, the trains running supplies around and some could even be armed with artillery to rapidly shift where they bring their firepower, you could if made large enough, even have multiple groups of people attacking and defending with their own sections of the assault/defense. Would I suspect be fun as hell if a nightmare to get set up

[@vikingpower2010-ty6xl]

You know you are the first person to talk about model trains that make it make sense.... might give it a try

[@TweetsieRailroader]

Sir, you have a good taste in trains. I’m not a Warhammer guy, but I model both O and ON30, and it’s always fun to see different hobbies combined! (In fact, I bought an Artpla figure pack that was… roughly the scale of a G Scale locomotive I have!) I’d really enjoy to see you start a model train channel!

[@KillerOrca]

I have a sudden urge to get a 32 scale train, paint it up like a transport on Terra, and recreate one of the sections of Lost and the Damned where the billions of mortal conscripts are getting sent to the meat grinder on Dorns orders to help hold the wall

[@qwerty2012w]

I’ve noticed no one in the warhammer hobby space really mention the model train hobby or even gundam to some extent but there’s so many resources that are cross compatible. I’ve dipped into the more traditional model train/military modeling store mostly for the terrain stuff and various bits for scratch building like styrene and brass. The terrain and basing options are super underrated like casting rock molds and building/decorating structures

[@callsignapollo_]

I've been watching mini painting vids in order to learn how to paint my model trains better for sure The hobbies could certainly teach eachother a thing or two if we look over the fence and see the flocking is just as green on both sides

[@olive3365]

I haven't the foggiest on how to play the tabletop game that is warhammer, but I think rolling each turn to see both how far as well as on which track the trains go would be super interesting. You could even just hand move them so as to not have to deal with electronics and that's already what 40k players are used to anyways. I think the rail yard idea is super interesting, maybe taking movement penalties for each track they want to cross or even targeting and destroying the track (just removing a section from the board if that's how this type of rail is laid out) with an attack.. phase? (I heard that word watching Poorhammer so I may be using it wrong) so that way they can choose to either lose an attack or lose a movement when crossing, and maybe the trains when blocking their path can have the same health as tanks so it's more difficult to make it through them when they block your path. Just a few ideas I had that branched from your own ideas. Having a version of the game that includes something like trains would be super interesting because that could bring train people into 40k and it could get the community more non-space marine units which is always a win!

[@victorvondroom]

Even the Imperium have a sturdier train system than the US...

[@KameradArktis]

Photography and warhammer makes it pretty easy to combine the hobbies

[@gideongallant1185]

+++ COMMENT FOR THE COMMENT TITHE +++ Also been a huge fan of both things for a while. All my model trains got put into storage since I haven't really been into them since I was a little kid (under 10). Getting a real income and some of my own space has helped me rediscover things like Warhammer and model trains that I really liked as a kid and it's been awesome, especially with a little guy to enjoy these things with me

[@Handi_Crafts]

Perfect time to get back into it then will be some great memories

[@DeMause]

I feel like the move to run it as a circuit would be to just have the track go outside the playable area. Maybe even have the whole table be two or more play areas near each other so you could get more variety out of it.

[@DemonBlanka]

Running two games on one track sounds kinda fun but also a bit of a nightmare lol. Definitely run it so that if your mini gets hit by a train it's instantly killed, better get those turns done quick!

[@idiotluggage]

Really cool breakdown. This is something that I have thought about since I started playing 40k over 20 years ago.

[@Lannister42]

This is perfect, for the last 3 days I've been tryint to figure out whether a guardsman battle train is doable/worth it!

[@Marsuvee]

Lets go I fucking love trains!

[@boanoah6362]

You could just have a larger 40k theme train table and just section it for play areas, I've heard people do this for really big display pieces.

[@Thesealman7]

The funny thing is that I went from doing trains to Warhammer. Still love them both

[@Bellerophon3]

I’m pretty sure one of the old 40k rule books had a converted train in it. Had a big snowy table build around a train and line. The 4th edition, or maybe 5th edition one.

[@mitchellhorn1102]

The union of my hobbies, model Railroading, warhammer, and historical wargaming!!!!!!!!

[@elgentleman6259]

My World Eaters have a Thomas the Daemon Engine. Bit of green stuff to make it look like his charming face was flayed and stapled in place, and lots of spikes and pipes. Cheap toy, so it's about the right scale too.

[@leoskelton1526]

Idk ive never been interested in trains but this is starting to make them almost seem cool

[@ethanmckinney203]

An ex-roommate married the daughter of the president of Lionel trains. It was a very large, very, very elaborate wedding. Thanks for funding a fantastic dinner at the reception, nerds!

[@CartmanTuttle]

I'm lucky in that my primary autism focus is Roleplaying Games. Everything goes with Roleplaying Games.

[@Spala1]

I like twains

[@SoRa228]

For the problem with shallow recesses, I have that you can use a scribing tool like those used in gunpla building to deepen the recesses so that your oil/enamel wash will stay in them

[@SoRa228]

I don't know how come my comment ended up under this video lol. It was supposed to be for another video haha

[@riley2216]

The buddy who i peer pressurees into getting in Warhammer was also a modle train guy when i was getting piss drunk in his garage he talked about it and pointed out that the diorama(?) for the trains was on a table currently straped to the roof of said garage

[@Rentetsuken]

While a layout on a Warhammer table is impractical...what if the idea was approached in the opposite direction through integrating a Warhammer table into a layout? The size of a table shifts from an area that an entire layout needs to be squeezed into, over to the constraint that a specific section of a layout needs to have symmetrical track and accessible from 2 opposing sides, and buildings/terrain features aren't permanently secured in that zone. You would probably want the rest of the layout to have the Warhammer aesthetic so the "Table" doesn't look out of place. So, the question would evolve into what you could do to make a layout with a Warhammer style to it...

[@witchitahable]

Im mostly a ship modeller but one day I'm going to have a display board with a T-gauge layout on it.

[@mountieseh]

Sick trains

[@TonyThePerson7]

Now that handi uses the "word" rizz in every vidya now he needs to do a stream with only gen-z slang

[@m1bl4n]

Don't shame my generation like that, "rizz" is gen alpha 🫠

[@phillbosque2183]

Cool concept. Could have a diorama board with the train leaving into a tunnel and reentering on the other side.

[@dancingpotplant]

IIRC N guage is about 10mm so you could easily go to a miniatures manufacturer like Pendraken and pick up lots of toys. Paint them like IG and another lot in xenos or chaos colours. 3D print some support stuff like walkers and marines. You then have potential to both integrate a miniatures game with actual moving trains as the scale means you need to figure out how to move your forces to the front. I did something similar with the Franco-Prussian War in which the training in of reinforcements was a key factor in the 8 player battle. Fun times!

[@evileyeball]

Theoretically you could build a layout and have a 6x4 area in your layout that functions as a game table and then have the trains roll onto and off of the table as part of a larget loop. I used tyo play warhammer on a 4x8 sheet of Plywood that had a loop of old O guage track on it from a train my dad had as a kid. We never ran the train during gameplay but we just needed a tabletop and it was present.

[@jonathanlaxton5791]

to be honest when i read the title to this video it got my hopes up there was a new leagues if votann land train model coming out. oh well, maybe in the future

[@Handi_Crafts]

I hope so too

[@JamesAce]

Just wait until he finds out about chaos dwarfs in WH fantasy

[@Handi_Crafts]

I already know about the land train

[@ryansistryinghisbest]

Wouldn't it be rad to have a board with a working train on it, and every battle round you run the train for a set amount of time to change around the terrain?

[@Skelebob-sp7pn]

I have wondered before if it would be possible to hollow out old Chaos Dwarf train (the Iron Daemon) and turn it into a model train.

[@chaotic_nyoom7777]

I just found your channel, and as i have the tism that loves lietening to a nother passionate lover of things will no be what i draw to and now i found a binging channel to listen too

[@gawkthimm6030]

fun fact; I have been diving deep into 40k lore and books for 12 years now, I have never bought a miniature, hoisted the black flag on; audiobooks, digital novels, codex and RPG rule books where possible, GW is an enormous company, they should pay their writers better, make their older books avalible for physical reprint on demand and make their miniatures cheaper, I wont apologize for anything.. I think one day enough higher quality 3D printers will be avalible for people to order from on demand and GW will have to drastically reconsider their business model...

[@wanlow5217]

Warhammer and trains? I’m sold.

[@Velasc]

would love to see some train conversions to warhammer.

[@Handi_Crafts]

If i had a space for a 3d printer I would.

[@calebc.2290]

4:58 . Wow, I tip my hat to you that is the greatest comeback i’ve heard thrown at the metric system users. genuinely got me laughing.

[@bentaphid44]

I think the answer of having a full size model train circuit that goes through multiple smaller Warhammer maps has been overlooked

[@Handi_Crafts]

yeah I though about modules but then the issue of space come up which I kinda failed to mention

[@bentaphid44]

@@Handi_Crafts You did mention not having space for a full setup, but I feel like engaging with the hypothetical more would have been interesting. At least a digital mock up or something. Either way, good video, hope to see a followup some day

[@SpamtonGSpamton1997-]

THIS IS SO ME I DO MODEL TRAINS AND WARHAMMER!

[@Handi_Crafts]

BROTHER!!!

[@CharzaKitsune]

9:14 RID’01 Trainbots Spotted. *LESSGOOOOO~!*

[@terrydavis5924]

the rolling stock with HO scale I think would work, IF you don't use normal boxes but instead flats. You see something similar in Darktide, open cargo freights that you have to fight across and them being a little small works if it's intended for a few workers and a pallet of stuff

[@8-7-styx94]

So HOn3 can be used if you elevate the track about 8-10" (12" to be safe from tall models) off the board. What you'd be simulating is actually a raised train track and the skewed perspective of those below it. From their vantage point the elevated train is much smaller than it would be, than if they were up next to it. It's a bit of a weird visual trick as your brain thinks the train is absolutely tiny compared to the models, so you have to get down level with the board and view it from their perspective. At which point, it looks awesome. This gives more interesting track layouts as well as the ability to use a working train. Yes S-Scale is basically 40k scale, + or - a little, so that would be ideal, but boy is it really hard to find.

[@Handi_Crafts]

My old train stores back when I lived in LA had a good selection of s scale. Plus lionel every now and then has some new s scale stuff. But it's lionel so expensive...

[@s1mp50n4]

There's a table top game called Brik Wars. It's rules for Lego + table top wargames. I've always wanted to try playing it with my friends but I've never found the time to make up troops from my collection of Lego and since I'm the only one of my friends who collects Lego I'd have to make up enough troops for two whole armies.

[@Revonous1911]

The Tism is strong with this one

[@roundaboutpony6653]

I'm I am not the only tizzy that thought about this

[@Pariahwulfen]

Both of grandfather's collected trains, one HO, the other O, and my father played miniature wargames...I was doomed to the 'TISM from birth.