Future LAX Terminal 9 First Look Fly-Through

[@sp4263]

Wow!! A T9 ! Just when I thought LAX just couldnt get any bigger.

[@MrFlyboy1313]

The future of LAX is to have all of the airlines alliances gathered together for efficient transfers. Terminals 2,3, Bradley north for Sky Team. T 4,5, Bradley south for One World. T 7,8,9 for Star Alliance

[@MrPromethium0157]

And Terminal 1 for Southwest

[@MrBrowneyez95]

Partially true but if there’s space for another teams airline to park they will use it. Delta LAX employee here

[@RashadKhanAviation2023]

I don't understand why all Star Alliance carriers operating from the TBIT will go to Terminal 9 once it's complete. The TBIT would be utterly useless at that point (Even though there are still going to be a majority of airlines operating from the terminal) Plus, Asiana Airlines (A Star Alliance carrier) has an A380 flight that goes to LAX, so would they have to make an A380 gate for that specific flight at Terminal 9? Plus, the A380 can't even fit on the taxi ways to 25R due to the large wingspan. The same goes for the 747-8i.

[@johniii8147]

@@RashadKhanAviation2023 Not all Star flights will be going to T-9. T-9 isn't planned to accommodate the 380. Quite a few flights will remain in Bradley with just some moved over. There won't be enough gates for widebodies to accommodate all the Star international flights. You have SQ, Asiana (for now), UA, LH, NZ, NH, AI etc etc. No way they can accommodate all that with a max of 5 widebody capable gates. Bradley will still have plenty of traffic

[@RashadKhanAviation2023]

@@johniii8147 Wait hold on so you saying that Air India is going to be having flights to LAX after so many years?!

[@BillOhio73]

As a rideshare driver in LA I am SO looking forward to this project being complete. As things are, I just don't drive in the early hours of the day because Every ride is an airport run in the morning and the traffic at the horseshoe simply makes driving not worth it. The days before Christmas and especially Thanksgiving... forget about it. More than an hour to get into the terminals, drop off, and get back out again on those days.

[@philteves3965]

Loved working on this project

[@damienruud9742]

Beautiful design for Terminal 9, reminds me a little of Eero Saarinen's TWA Terminal at JFK. Will this be a dedicated International Terminal?? Thanks for the vid!

[@FutureOrthopod2013]

Last I heard this would become a Star Alliance terminal specifically for international flights

[@damienruud9742]

@@FutureOrthopod2013 Ah, that makes sense! It'll have nice quick access to Runways 25 L/R!

[@RashadKhanAviation2023]

@@FutureOrthopod2013 Not only Star Alliance airlines. United is also going to be using T9 for domestic and international flights.

[@johniii8147]

No it won't be. There will United domestic flights as well. Some STAR will remain in Bradley.

[@markdc1145]

I wonder how many people know that Terminal 9 will be built quite near the site of the temporary Los Angeles International Airport terminals in operation from 1946 to 1961? The original terminal buildings actually existed up until only a few years ago.

[@geraldjohnson7937]

When is construction scheduled to start?

[@RashadKhanAviation2023]

I heard that construction will start by the end of the year, so it'll take some time.

[@johniii8147]

@@RashadKhanAviation2023 That's best case. Still working on financing issues. and final approval.

[@vincenty747]

There's no way they'll finish this in time for the 2028 Olympics, right? And what about Terminal 0?

[@theexmann]

I read that it will be a concourse and not a terminal 0. Though it's not clear to me what the difference is between a concourse and a terminal.

[@MrBrowneyez95]

Concourse meaning separate because a bridge will connect the road way to it compared to 9 where the ground is flat and terminal 8 will have a path way to it not a bridge

[@MrFlyboy1313]

2032 I believe is the target for Terminal 9.

[@artfromcalifornia104]

End of this year terminal 0 and 9 will start a construction.

[@mrxman581]

Looks like this terminal will have direct access to the APM so different from the others. Though i guess tge TBIT is pretty close too.

[@wolfgangholst8915]

Being a former Bradley Terminal employee (US Customs) who has flown to both European and Asian airports on a fairly regular basis, LAX was a national disgrace. I hope this all works out. The concept of the different alliances being under separate roofs is intriguing.

[@BruhBrew]

It seems that United just built a hangar in that same location. Does anyone have any information about that?

[@johnmaster3748]

It's my understanding the United maintenance hangar is farther east (toward the end of the runways). T9 would sit between that and T8. But, honestly, I've had trouble visualizing the layout. At one time there was a commuter jet facility just east of T8. I think T9 would go where that used to be but also take up the land north of there (behind it) that I think used to be cargo and the backside of the US Postal Service sorting center that fronts Sepulveda. It may be that T9 will takeover the postal site.

[@BruhBrew]

@@johnmaster3748 thanks for the reply. I guess we'll know for sure when they break ground.

[@JulianBalgobin]

Maybe when this terminal is built Air India will start service from LAX

[@babysunn2]

TIGHT !

[@CrossMeFool]

This is insane.

[@sacresies]

I could see airport in the next GTA game. It definitely would fit in to Los Santos

[@roachtoasties]

I wonder when this will be completed, since it hasn't been started. :/

[@sam.k52]

I Remember they said like 2 months ago now it’s gonna be done near 2024

[@krisrandolph4113]

@@sam.k52 nah not until at least 2027

[@ofeguadalupe9101]

I bet not before 2030

[@johnmaster3748]

Hasn't been started....hasn't even been greenlit for construction. Still in planning. This rendering is good, but it's like looking at stadium renderings before construction starts. The final design may depart markedly from the concept art.

[@roachtoasties]

@@johnmaster3748 Oh well. If they even want to have a chance of these terminals being finished in time for the 2028 Olympics, they better start moving, and soon.

[@davidlang1125]

At last a world class design instead of the humdrum architecture that’s been the norm at LAX. (And don’t get me started about that eyesore of an ATC tower with its clunky “high tech” look). Can’t see this new terminal being ready for 2028.

[@mrxman581]

I don't mind the look of the tower. However, they should clean up the external design including a new paint scheme. Maybe a white and blue color scheme to compliment the MCM homage of the new renovations and expansions.

[@tylermcintyre1454]

Tyler Mac delta airlines is now for the gate colors

[@tvlone]

Amazing!

[@davidcoker7989]

Any idea what airline is gonna snag that?

[@denvernuggetsmc4785]

United and Star Alliance partners, thus why it’s connected to UA’s T7/T8

[@davidcoker7989]

@@denvernuggetsmc4785 That's what I figured, thanks.

[@denvernuggetsmc4785]

@@davidcoker7989 for what it’s worth and to provide a little more context, United and LAWA are going back and forth on how much both parties are going to be pay, LAWA trying to get UA to chip in more, so that’s why they haven’t officially said it’s for United like they have for Southwest and T0. I guess you could say LAWA is calling it a “common use international terminal” for now is a way to negotiate with United, but everyone fully expects it to be United. UA executives have indirectly said they’re getting it before. Doesn’t make sense for either AA or DL given they already built their expansions and they’re in completely different parts of the airport. Also if you look back at the TPG Q&A with the LAX CEO last year he even said it’s for Star Alliance. So anyways, if you were wondering why they haven’t labeled it the United terminal yet, that’s the background.

[@LDVTennis]

​@@denvernuggetsmc4785 There is no back and forth. United was not going to get better terms than Southwest. Southwest agreed to self-finance construction and secure long-term financing in case LAWA does not buy back T0. At T9, that would have meant short- and long-term financing in the amount of at least $3 Billion dollars. That is $3 Billion at an airport that is not a hub for the airline. Currently, LAWA is exploring a public-private partnership (PPP) to build and perhaps run T9. If United and partners end up using T9 after all, take note that the enplanement costs for this terminal will be the highest at the airport, in no small part due to the PPP delivery method.

[@davidcoker7989]

@@denvernuggetsmc4785 Thanks for that info, knowing United like I know them this certainly does make sense! 😉

[@Blank00]

hopefully this will eliminate United’s need for TBIT

[@wiz553]

People mover update?

[@JEK]

Yes, just got back, I'll put something out after the weekend.

[@MrBrowneyez95]

Who will take over terminal 1 once terminal 0 is built ?

[@MrFlyboy1313]

Southwest will operate out of both Terminals and may share T1 with Spirit or Frontier. Won't be decided until later.

[@RashadKhanAviation2023]

@@MrFlyboy1313 Frontier is no longer flying to LAX.

[@johniii8147]

@@RashadKhanAviation2023 They seem to change their destinations almost monthly so who know with Frontier.

[@alancampos8906]

It looks like the terminal is outside the airport 😅 LAX will always be mess!

[@theexmann]

Actually, it's been getting better. The last two times I picked up family and friends, it was much quicker than before Covid and they all said that their experience going through LAX was better too. This was about a month ago that I got that feed back. I guess it could be a hit or miss depending on time of day.

[@RashadKhanAviation2023]

@@theexmannI agree. It’s been getting slightly better for Departures as well, although I saw that the Lufthansa/Austrian/Swiss check-in desks are VERY crowded. They need to have all three airlines in a separate desk, even though all three are from the same company.

[@RashadKhanAviation2023]

Bet that United will have multiple flights to Europe with this terminal, as they only have one flight (Bruh) to Europe on their 787 from LAX-LHR.

[@finned958]

They would have to close the People Mover for extended periods during the construction. What a waste.

[@kylecmurphy]

Nope. They people mover is being built with T9 already planned

[@finned958]

@@kylecmurphy Where the T9 station? Are passengers supposed to jump to T9?

[@coolnewpants]

If you take a look at Google Maps satellite view, it looks like the T9 station is already in the process of being built

[@theexmann]

@@kylecmurphy Good to know. I was wondering about that. I was hoping LAWA would have already taken this upcoming T9 into consideration when designing the path of the APM. I'm relieved that that is, indeed, the case. Thanks.

[@VGSEAS]

They're going to build another one in front of it

[@LimitedWard]

Oh boy even more reason to hate driving to LAX. If they invested even a 10th of the budget into better public transit they could have cut the required footprint in half.

[@youradoptedlol7691]

Thats the same with every airport. Your still going to have traffic

[@johniii8147]

Few are going to lug their luggage onto mass transit in the LA area. They'd still have to drive to a transit station anyway. LA is just not that well suited to mass transit given how it's so spread out.

[@youradoptedlol7691]

@@johniii8147 true