Modular Monthly: A Make Noise MATHS Lesson

[@Larry30102]

While this is a few years old, KZbin is like a gift that keeps on giving. This vid is completely awesome. This is so helpful. A huge thank you!

[@ToysintheStatic]

I bought a maths a while back just based on this awesome video. Specifically bow, bow, bow, on one side and de, de, de on the other (16:00). Thanks, great video!

[@davegesell5470]

I've watched this video several times a year since getting into modular. You finally broke me. Just ordered a MATHS.

[@phormzlab1743]

Mylarmelodies ...The most engaging modular demos ever ....always enjoy your vidz cheers!!

[@christerkraft1649]

i agree ! he makes the most informative videos, and still fun to watch !

[@Oceanwireaudio]

The video that got me into Eurorack and reignited my love of synthesisers after 30 years of walking away from them. 6 years later, thanks Alex.

[@galaxyclassvoyager]

Took me a couple weeks to get through it, trying things and absorbing the info given - but man, what a trip. This tutorial was super helpful! And theres still so many more patch-possibilities to try!

[@JanMeeustheone]

Best. Salesman. Ever. Outstanding tutorial too.

[@okkomp]

Yes.. I've purchased a Clouds, Maths and Disting Mk3 after seeing these vids.. o.O

[@lcortier]

OK Computer Yup, me too, as well as, let's see... Metropolis, Atlantis, Radio Music and Turing Machine, Korgasmatron, Trigger Riot, PEG and RCD, ADDAC207, Doepfer Precision Adder, Sequential Switch, Wasp filter and Spring Reverb, and last but not least, the amazing Shapeshifter... Glups :D

[@danobrien3292]

Great tutorial. You are the Presenter, Par Excellance

[@cray56]

Great tutorial. Must big up the Buchla and Serge modulars from where this module was derived

[@theTerribleFamiliar]

This is the best dive into Maths that I've found on KZbin. Thanks so much.

[@0Metatron]

That's just blown away some of my maths confusion. Thanks

[@jlg0351]

Thank you! One day after watching the video, I approach the Maths and it starts to make sense. Especially when you self-patch and create feedback. Kudos

[@xFrizix]

24:36 "It's like trying set the temperature of your shower" Now we need a CV controlled shower temperature. Hook a mic into it and you've got pretty original analog "human swear" module :D

[@SorchaSublime]

You could actually do this with the Koma field kit. It has CV controllable solenoid outputs, which means you can make motors that are CV controllable.

[@mubodude]

Thanks so much for going in depth with this module! So many just FLY through and twiddle knobs at lightning speeds, which is not helpful at all. I can hear it, but never see or hear it explained so well as this. Make Noise modules are some of the most complicated, non intuitive ones out there. I love them because I know they are some of the best, innovative creations, yet I can't do anything with them until they are explained or I study hard to find out how they work. You don't just walk up and see the obvious like with Doepfer, for instance. I can poke at them all day and still get nothing. Cheers!

[@echoheadband]

Awesome. So helpful

[@stanton343]

God I love this guy, I love maths, I love synthesis. Never stop making videos. Please.

[@jacksonkerr2095]

Thanks for putting this together. I've been thinking about getting a maths for my system, but had been intimidated by it for a while. Understanding how the system's layout was organized (CH 1 and 4 on the outside, etc) is a great help. I may well have to add this to my collection sometimes soon. Thanks!

[@avsystem3142]

Just now getting into Eurorack modular. I've ordered two 3U rackmount chassis that will have available 160 HP (not including P/S's). The Make Noise MATHS module was among my first purchases. Will also be looking to acquire some type of random CV generation module.

[@Tx66]

FINALLY! The first proper explanation video of this Module on entire KZbin!

[@Digiphex]

+Tx66 Except for the one by its creator, Tony Rolando, that was damn good.

[@wackenthaljef]

Yessss! absolutely!

[@flightofsound2497]

@@Digiphex Do you have a link to that video?

[@Digiphex]

@@flightofsound2497 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2PPlKysgNVgqM0&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=MAKEN0ISE

[@Digiphex]

@@flightofsound2497 Think LFO and envelope and you won't be very confused by it.

[@opwave79]

Best Maths tutorial. Teaches you how to use Maths without unnecessary side info that only an engineer can understand.

[@dannyomerta]

Absolutely the best video about Maths, thank you!!

[@wellurban]

If you want REALLY fine control, you could patch channel 2 into channel 3, thus attenuating the offset even more.

[@MrRoskoPeko]

I love your presentation style, super engaging, full of personality, informative and so easy to listen to. Thank you.

[@ottovikmathisen115]

wow, this just blew my mind, super helpful thank u! Ive had the maths for a couple of weeks in a really basic system, and I haven't utilised it at all yet(apparently), i'm gonna go patch now, see ya

[@empirix]

Love these videos, i started buying FM again because of these and the modular monthly in the magazine. top stuff guys, cheers

[@BasariStudios]

Maths, i love it, can't do nothing in my patches without it.

[@ron2298]

Awesome videos thank you for them. Just got maths today and am new to modular this really helps stay safe

[@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171]

Oh?! I realize now, that I’ve been using my attenuverting channels as mixer channels, not as inputs to grant CV control over those attenuverters! I’m glad I’ve re-re-visited your video once again! Great video, very valuable resource for not only learning the MakeNoise Maths, but to grasp more thoroughly these concepts of Control Voltages!

[@MsDeliaStreams]

Amazing vid on MATHS. Love all your tutorials, you're giving me Euro-GAS!

[@RadicalCaveman]

I didn't understand most of this, but thank you for at least making clear that this is a kind of master utilities module. Other sources left me scratching my head about what Maths is really for.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

I have watched no end of YT vids trying to gain a basic idea of what Maths does, to no avail. Everyone agrees that it’s all-singing, all-dancing, but no-one can even begin to explain what it does or how to use it. Imagine, then, my relief at turning to this video and hearing the voice more familiar as that of Mr Mylar Melodies himself. If anyone can explain it, I figured, he can. And was I right? Oh yes- this video is cut-out-and-keep gold, and I shall refer to it often , and at length… My takeaway from this- and it’s the first YT vid I’ve seen that’s even had a takeaway-is that it’s probably of more use to someone making modular noise for the sake of modular noise rather than- as I do- crafting discrete pieces of structured music. However, having finally established (some of) what Maths can do it is finally clear that having one WOULD benefit my system. For once I do not begrudge the dent in the wallet; to have found an explanation that genuinely explains the module is worth the price of entry. Thank you!

[@jarkmodels]

Mate, great video as usual...can't wait for a part 2!

[@leonard.c]

what a great review/ tutorial, even better then loops one! thank you :)

[@IDriveAnAudi]

Excellent explanation! Thanks so much for pulling this together.

[@BlackWarriorLures]

Finally some to explain MATHS in a way I can understand.

[@AmbientSky]

Very helpful, thanks!

[@davidwisking6387]

This is one module that always baffled me, but for that reason is the one I want the most! Just the amount of patching and knob twiddling... it's limitless!!! If only I didn't have to pay rent or my electricity bill!!!!!

[@gregorio98000]

How can you be so friendly to my ears and understanding but also be my wallet’s worst enemy ? Thanks a lot for all these really informative and extremely well done videos, much appreciated, I will head to patron soon to give my little contribution

[@bsbazzman]

I love that use of end of Rise. Really unlocks some super cool generative stuff. Constantly finding new depths to Maths ❤️

[@edgarbrocke1807]

Loved this tutorial, definitely a reference keeper! Thank you!

[@ScottofOakland]

You made me want the RF Nomad.....That was awesome

[@WoolwichHouseStudio]

7 years on, and this still kicks bum.

[@evertoaster]

Thanks, I just worked through the examples with my new Maths.

[@TomasBodin]

As always, great education, great fun! You make the most intricate module tasty as Mum´s home cooked Sunday meal. Intelligently cosy. Thank you.

[@16fingers]

i like your lorem ipsum module :)

[@oldgoodrandomroutine]

THIS FREAKING THING ROCKS, MATH4LIFE :D

[@SalvadorCalaf]

Your vidz are the most engaging modular demos/tutorials. Very informative, thanks!

[@seansnyder7744]

All I can think of right now is patching a sample and hold voltage into a lot of the cv inputs of the maths module :D

[@paulsearles]

THANK YOU! and bonus points for showing me the Nomad

[@graphomate]

Great overview ... finally I have an idea of maths!

[@sunsetcadet60]

I wish I had seen this before I ordered it. I have a Mother 32 case and was looking around for what my first (post-power) module should be, if I had seen this it would have been a much quicker decision :) Now... the waiting.

[@ehafh]

great demo, the make noise official video's are painfully short. this long format is what i would love from all companies. all of these 3 minute demo video's are really a bummer to me.

[@memohech]

Quite insightful video. Thanks!

[@iNuchalHead]

I kept spacing out from the tutorial wondering what that RF Nomad did. So glad he ended the tutorial with that. Go, Makenoise! Go make noise!

[@complicitytheory]

That was an education. Spent the day playing with my new maths, and now I have a whole new group of things to explore.

[@MartinDoudoroffLLC]

Outstanding work, this demo.

[@NothingNowhereNoOne]

Splendid lecture. What module would benefit from maths the most- complex oscillator, etc.?

[@5DNiq]

I find utilities exciting!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Very useful! Been super confused by the cryptic fonts and artwork on Make Noise modules. Very wacky!

[@MRFraserHellRaiser]

Gutted the video ends!!!! Thanks for another amazing and clearly explained video.

[@MrAmac916]

Just broke that down best tutorial on KZbin

[@modularben7421]

Cool I was wondering what it did- similar to how the Slope and Contours function generator works on the Make Noise 0-coast semi modular synth, right?

[@floatershaw]

wow amazing i am so glad i have got maths.

[@comod]

This should be part of music theory in school in combination with maths

[@DrThomKO]

Lorem Ipsum!! so good for space filling!!

[@RPS3000]

cool dude , i love his tutorials

[@Rooger_modular]

So great this explanation and inspiring!! Thanx,this opens up evrything for me. Its actually the whole modular concept in a nutshell.🚀👍🏼❤️✨️

[@Skootavision]

Noooo I watched your vid on Fluctuations Magnetiques and decided that was a thing I wanted to explore, and finally ordered a Maths (totally befuddled by it but Im trusting you and DivKid). Now you do stuff with TWO Maths. My bank account would like a word when you've got a minute lol

[@mylarmelodies]

Sorry about that Ed...

[@whiterottenrabbit]

Could you do a video about the 4ms PEG?

[@JamieHowton]

Thank you, this was very helpful.

[@tangofizz77]

21:44 Creepily turns American

[@mupersan82]

Haha, that cracked me up!

[@whiterottenrabbit]

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[@45rpm.]

LOL - He uses the American term instead of the English anti-clockwise.

[@45rpm.]

Yeah - it sounds so negative

[@fvazquez64]

Not at all!! I just felt link an english Tom Hanks interested on electronic music were chatting on... :)

[@BrianDeLizza]

Nice one mate. Thanks for that.

[@buyukberber]

Super demo! Love it

[@tom.konxompax]

I don't have Maths but this helps to explain Function! cheers

[@prltps7634]

Man, you rock, thanks.

[@Tx66]

23:30 I have one question: How is this form of envelope generation different than when just applying a gate to the trigger input? wouldn't the same thing that you're showcasing with this "ASR envelope" be happening if you plugged the pressure points gate into the maths trigger in?

[@mylarmelodies]

No, two fundamental different results - going into the channel input MATHS shapes the start and end of the gate (it adds a slope on to the end), and you can hold your gate down and it'll stay high until you release - so a proper ASR envelope is created. If you go into the trigger input, then you're firing a cycle and the length is determined by the Rise and Fall controls only, no matter how long and short your gate happens to be, if you get me?

[@Tx66]

mylarmelodies thank you very much, that clears it up!

[@Pighood]

Hey I almost understood that. Cheers.

[@tiltedstudio]

Just by-the-by: my hot water system is inline, so I set the temperature on my shower with a display, and +/- buttons. I get the same temp every time if I want. I guess that is the equivalent of having a CV quantizer...

[@eltouristoduo]

Are some modular synth enthusiasts more interested in 'sounds' than in 'music' ? No slight intended, but please otherwise take the question however you like. I will say kinda the same thing in slightly different ways... ' Is making sounds with these sometimes the end, (a separate, non-musical thing), not a means to an end of making music? So there can be quite wak, noisy music (or not so wak), but still somehow music etc, and then there are 'sounds' like of machines running (trains, washing machines, old phone switches, dial-up handshake sounds, etc ). Are they both music? And are both types made by modulars people, or is one more common? If we established a terminological boundry that said that certain examples of sounds of nature or of machines like above are not music, even though they may sometimes be rhythmical and/or tonal, is that boundry useful? Shouldn't there be a line somewhere?...above silence, but where? And if we could pretty much agree on where to put such a bondary, would many modular creations seem to flirt with and cross that boundary? ssssooo...Could we call modular synthesis a 'regressive' or 'archaic' process? If someone's really into modular, are they less likely to be into 'packaged' synths? And vice versa? Maybe it shows some ignorance on my part to ask...What isnt 'musically regressive' about archaic cable patching?...Why wouldn't you always want to use some kind of software configurable, at least recallable (that's one part that gets me) set of analog patching switches, instead of cables? Is seems to indicate some intrinsic value to the 'manualness' of it. Is it too limited an analogy to compare sound-making to music-making as font-making to writing sentences? I understand pre-technology archaic instruments. But I seem to have difficulty with this technological timewarp. Is pushing the limits 'back' to the 'machine running'/regression a big part of the modular aethetic? Has this discussion touched on the general appeal of modular, or is it something else? . Yeah I guess this post lost it's way to another thread lol. Kids don't do drugs.

[@z2d2]

+eltouristoduo just to touch a few points: you gotta go read "the art of noise" a hundred year old italian manifesto brother, its some good shit. talking about incorporating so called noises into musical contexts, fast forward a century and put some John-Cage-dadaist spin on it, and you've successfully redefined all sound as music. in terms of reproducibility, it is a sacrifice for the workflow. having physical patches and patch-bays is a very different feel than digital patching (ie: PD or MaxMSP). Both have their own home. Modulars accell at certain things over digital synths, or non-modular analogue synths, just as say a trumpet excels at certain things over a guitar. Neither invalidate the other, they just fill different niches at least personally for me. I think the term "musically regressing" implies the fallacy that is somehow getting better or more advanced with time. It'd be so easy to say the music of the 1500's was less advanced, but in some ways its more. the people who were interested in making things 500 years ago were interested in different elements and pushing the boundaries of those elements. the people making music using modular synthesis are just using a different tool that is better at achieving the end result than say Ableton or a guitar with a nice pedal board. I think the key point is that the tool shapes the outcome, and modulars are interesting because you can buy such tiny parts of the tool-- thus building your Gestalt Tool into exactly what you want, thus influencing your outcome through your accumulation of modules.

[@mylarmelodies]

+eltouristoduo Totes fair things to be thinking about. The bottom line is that there are many different reasons for building a modular - to make a source sound material for your DAW or sampler, to make a 'groovebox' to perform complete pieces of music on without any other equipment, to make a sound processing rig, to make an infinitely configurable sound module that receives MIDI or USB data, and for different _reasons_, for some it's the practical application - they do indeed have the box to help with the process of making music and do so because there are lots of interesting module choices in eurorack, or they have one because for them the box is the end in and of itself - just making sounds, snippets and experimenting, without necessarily recording anything _is_ the entire process - so the modular is almost like a form of zen therapy, and it's used in quite the same way that an acoustic guitar leaning in the corner of a living room is used. It gets picked up at the end of a stressful day for the pleasure of immersing yourself in something that is not your daily grind. That was a very long sentence.

[@mindvsmind9525]

One mans music may be another mans noise, and vice versa. Music is just an arrangement of sounds at the end of the day, and what is archaic is the expectation of the masses for that arrangement to adhere to (mostly) Western standards, not discordance or rhythmic chaos and so forth. If we were to group it all together as entertainment for any given individual's personal taste, that would make sense. It's pointless and definitely archaic to keep questioning the distinctions between music and sound/noise, merely because of the first point in this comment. The two are intrinsically linked and only separated by personal preference. Making music, sound, audible compositions or just plain noise for the sheer fuck of it on any format (analogue modular, 'packaged synths', software) is good - it's all good. In defence of the long winded, non saveable, unstable, expensive and sometimes relatively limited modular route versus software et al, it comes with an abundance of happy accidents and moments of sheer originality and sonic wonderment. If you want, you can even have a digital recorder or your computer running in the background to capture and edit all your mindless footling, to be arranged into even more chaos or something more palatable for your grandmother's benefit. No great pre-technological revolution artist throughout history, either sonic/musical and/or visual had undos, 96kHz recording, last session recall, or copy and paste. The art started, evolved and ended, was fixed in time or maybe didn't end in the eyes of it's creator.

[@kaidoluht1957]

Are there no drones in music? Is everything have to be tuned to perfection, even drums, why so black and white. Glue some of that filtered crackle on to your drums and pads. Create some interesting paths for your musical ideas to slide once in a while. Surprise the audience and yourself. These are all tools, designed mostly by engineers. Manual is only the starting point, imagination and experiments are limitless. KZbin video examples are meaningless to see everything these kind of tools can do.

[@monomakes]

You make a very interesting point, which I have also been considering recently. I've been thinking of getting a small Eurorack setup to complement, and integrate with, the synths I currently use, but from what I am seeing, such a lot of the videos on Eurorack either seem to be about reproducing retro/ Carlos-type sounds without having a Minimoog, are more mathematical/ scientific than musical, or just like DIY/ how to videos. Can someone point me in the direction of videos by artists that represent the best/ cutting edge of Eurorack musicianship?

[@jakobchase2573]

you have a great voice to make samples out of.

[@moket808]

Holly yeah !! this one was missing !! thanks Mylar ..once again

[@mylarmelodies]

+jeanmi cheljar Yup. This had to be the final one I did for FM.

[@moket808]

no !!!! for real ? and the next chapter for you is ? no more tutorials at all ? cheers

[@Tx66]

+mylarmelodies what?? you cant stop now!! you just got me going!!

[@mylarmelodies]

+Tx66 I ain't dead yet! Link to my personal channel in the description - just released a new vid there today and more to come forever. Divkid will be handling the modular monthly vids here from now on

[@Flohr]

+mylarmelodies I loved the send off at the end. "There are always new sounds in old circuits." That should be a shirt or something. I'd buy it. Cheers for sharing this knowledge in an accessible way. People will be benefiting from your hard work and enjoying the sounds for years to come.

[@t1mmy13]

Now I want a second maths. Wtf

[@brightorangeblackvoid6445]

5:08, how/ why is it an LFO when cycled, but an envelope when triggered? It seems to be the same concept... What's the difference here? I'm confused.

[@dynatwenty]

Very good video!

[@BlueWolfSe7en]

Awesome vid, Maths forever :-)

[@baddriddimworkshop]

wow, someone is a very clever electronician!

[@thechannelkarkas]

14:41 best hand gesture

[@sklgy]

Where can I get one of those white cable holders?

[@gman1010]

Great video

[@FelipeTellez]

Loved your send-off

[@sysexstudio]

I'll be sorry to see you leave your post here at FM, but look forward to watching more on your own channel. You and Divkid are the modular demo kings!

[@sysexstudio]

+rrliled yes indeed

[@vgermuse]

Awesome! Great tutorial!

[@forehead84]

Great vid again, thanks

[@EdwardFist]

Gotta love attenuversion with weirdness!

[@indiefilmcomposer]

you are hilarious ! and a good teacher

[@evertoaster]

bonus for round robin reference

[@mixolydian2010]

Wow great video but i am still confused and this is my second watch of this lol..double that and i think i will getting somewhere i guess that means this module is deep and the manual a must read too, thanks for all your clear explanations and enthusiasm always keeps me going through the hard parts of your videos. Its on my list now! Take it easy.

[@45rpm.]

Modulars make sense once you get your hands on them. Before I got a modular I was a bit intimidated by them but once I had one I wished I had got one years earlier. I started small and built it up module by module. Sometimes I just yank (gently) all the wires out and start something fresh - no intimidation anymore.

[@clfr216]

my 1st module!

[@mylarmelodies]

+shawn holt One of mine too.

[@threeinitiates8260]

I want that blank Noise Eng panel, how did you get one?

[@mylarmelodies]

You give Stephen a squeeze at NAMM! :3

[@tehcatakai]

Adidas you sell off one of your modular rows?

[@mylarmelodies]

Ha, wasn't fully installed when I made this!

[@tehcatakai]

+mylarmelodies Haha, damn autocorrect got me! Good to know you still have your setup intact! I'm always sad whenever I see a wiggler get rid of tons of modules

[@mylarmelodies]

+Nick Cavazos I think downsizing is pretty cool - exercising discipline!!