THE SURGE 2: How to Beat Little Johnny (& Get Little Johnny's Forceps V2.0)

Here's how to beat The Surge 2 boss "Little Johnny" in the correct way that gets you his best weapon - Little Johnny's Forceps V2.0. Enjoy!
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[@RYUHAYABUSA5012]

Seems the true boss here was the lock on mechanic

[@zarrstroglutt2346]

It’s atrocious

[@RYUHAYABUSA5012]

@RedNoise don’t quit my friend, there’s so much great stuff after this, the return of the iron maus gear

[@brosif4354]

@@RYUHAYABUSA5012 I have no idea why they though LT was a good idea lol

[@RYUHAYABUSA5012]

@@brosif4354 LT?

[@brosif4354]

@@RYUHAYABUSA5012 left trigger, but it’s because of the right stick parry

[@dracosummoner]

Thanks so much! I'd seen similar explanations of the 2.0 method, but they didn't go into as much detail about how the parrying and the shield icons work, so I really appreciate this.

[@cygnusx2112]

Great guide, I beat him on my first try after watching this video. Thank you for your amazingly helpful tips!

[@fuzzybearbarian]

No probs, happy to help!

[@Phondue]

I beat the whole game once and I’m doing the ng+ and I just found out what the orange symbols meant 🤦‍♂️

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Note that I said the VULTR perk is irrelevant in this fight. It isn't completely irrelevant. It can be helpful actually, since each time you perform a finishing move on his little tiny arms you won't lose any battery power. You only do two finishing moves in the fight overall, but that's still helpful if you've taken a bit of damage and need to heal up!

[@Ol_fisherman04]

Honestly, in this part of the game I haven't found any gear that percs against little John. I just went vultra bc it had higher defense.

[@r.so-so1992]

I didn't have quite as big a problem with the lock-on mechanic. I focused less on blocking and more on dodging, staying in the open area of the arena and away from the walls. Either way, I'm grateful for the guide; happy with my V2.0 weapons!

[@Zhyrez]

You can get the V2.0 from him aslong as you just cut of his Claws before killing him so you can do it in what ever order you want. Also you can do him quite easy without having to time blocks by just standing under him which forces him to do a body slam or back legswipe both which are easy to dodge and you can go ham on him. I'd recommend getting the A.I.D Nightfall Helmet since it is the only helmet at that point in the game that gives good bonuses to both Armored and Unarmored Damage. Metamorphing Talons are also great since they have good damage, fast attacks, good energy gain and low stamina consumption but also deal Nano damage which is good against Robotics. Punishing Slashbrand are also good and they will be nice for an encouter just shortly after Johnny aswell.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

I'll have to try all that on my next playthrough!

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Hey, have you found your favorite build/setup yet? I honestly haven't. I like using the Jag 9 as my favorite weapon. I played around with Metamorphing Talons but I feel like they are so fast that they're too spammy for my liking (EDIT: After using them for a while, I prefer them. They use a lot less stamina than most other weapons, and that's helpful. Yep, I'm a convert!). I use VULTR armor because none of the other armor I've found yet seems good enough. I tend to block a lot, but it's quite irregular in whether it registers or not. It's not like Sekiro where you can master the timing, at least that I can see. Sometimes you time it perfectly, other times you do the same thing and you get hit. I'm starting to lean towards dodging around, in which case I really want to spec for evade and stamina benefits. Just interested to know what your style of play is, and what you spec for. Cheers!

[@Zhyrez]

@@fuzzybearbarian Currently I'm running Metamorphing Talons as my main weapon, Punishing Slashbrand for the Electric damage to be able to stun enemies and GAIA Lancer when I need reach and when enemies are too weak for the Talons to be able to cut of limbs, I've had a bit of trouble with enemies dying to the Nano proc just when I'm about to cut something off. For armor I'm using a mixed set since I've not really found a full set that actually like. Right now I'm using A.I.D Nightfall Helmet and the rest Spark Aspirant and I have 10/20/20 in Health/Stamina/Battery efficancy at the moment and I mostly use dodge. Haven't been able to play much so I've not gotten that far yet, I'm about to finish Gideon Rock when I get time.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@Zhyrez I played with Metamorphing Talons for a while but I've gone back to Brother Truman's Faith. The nano proc was working against me and I have a feeling we'll be fighting nano enemies in due course, which means if I invest in upgrading it I'll have wasted my rare resources. So I just upgraded Truman's Faith as my main. It's the best weapon I've found for every situation, saving me from ever having to swap it out. I also find it's extremely reliable for cutting off whatever I want. Like you with Slashbrand it's great for electric stunning. I'm still using VULTR armor - just haven't found any armor that I like better. I have the DLC armor but need more core power to wear it all, so it'll have to wait. I get the issue of time. Man, I just don't have enough time. I wanted to do a bunch of guides, but I think I'm so stretched for time I'll just post boss fights when I can get to them.

[@murphieslaw6932]

You can also find annother helmet with good damage boost against armored and unarmored at this stage, it is a DLC item though. The one with the pink grafitti on it. The set also gives a nice blocking stamina discount (which might be usefull since the set also makes general stamina drain bigger). I´ll try it against Johnny and hopefully will be able to manage my stamina. Also, it rocks enormous armor, which can never hurt against bosses.

[@rubyterpball3817]

thank you this really helped

[@matthias3175]

My friend told me he has read on twitter that tomorrow, will come new gears and mods. Cant wait for.

[@matthias3175]

it was the future Gear Armous that was be released.

[@skaekm.a.p.5933]

Use your drone to make to coolant tank part much easier👍

[@GBY13]

Thank you. I've got the V2.0 on my fist run.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Cheers!

[@samuelcurrington6036]

Yo thank you so much for this!!! I beat him on my first try :D

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Awesome!

[@stoaty]

worst boss fight i've encountered in a while. that loss of lock on is inexcusable.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

The lock issue is pretty frustrating.

[@quigonjinn3567]

@@fuzzybearbarian Why you don't just use the implant: "Physical Aggression Redirector"? It forces hits on the part you choose & u always hit it, problem solved.

[@Sarnatuile]

@@quigonjinn3567 That's not problem solved, that's just dodging the issue. The lock on should work properly, that simple.

[@jamesanderson5862]

Hes gonna go down town on his johnny

[@mjesticbeats7097]

Actually the legs are the easiest, if you lock on either of the front that will be the one he will anchor to the floor to do the attack with his hind leg, there is when you attack that anchored leg, and same with the other, then the hind one hit it when he attacks and anchor it to turn his body

[@tacticalchavez8707]

I did that but the other way I did the big legs first and still got the virsion 2 weapon maybe it’s a have to knock out the tow coolent tubes

[@nicholassiebert852]

I feel like this boss just forces you to learn every mechanic that you neglected the whole game so you can continue without struggling

[@1TerryNova]

2:42 very impressive backwards block

[@charlescomeauxjr9037]

Maybe it's the way we play because I have a lot of issues staying locked on

[@kyulee829]

Since no youtubers talked about this... I wish i knew that i don't get to buy 'Dynamic Redirector' implant from Molly if i chose other than mining war veteran and search and rescue character background. It is such a problem that since i chose field engineer, i totally have to rely on rng to get the implant by severing heads.

[@Cheeseybeaver45]

it be nice to have 3 meds like you man its alot harder without them

[@fuzzybearbarian]

I had 3 as the Medi-Voltaic injection implant was able to fully charge since I wasn't using heals. You get that implant automatically at the start of the game when you equip your rig. Everyone has it available to use in the game.

[@ManicallyMetal]

I can’t lock onto his legs and switch targets :(

[@Ol_fisherman04]

Out of curiosity, was all your gear mk III? Should I keep leveling up before ol John. My defense is 158 damage 131.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Gear is shown at 00:11:58

[@trikdoutvl]

been stuck on this boss for a week. must of tried at least a 100 times. cant do it fml

[@matthias3175]

Which is your favorite weapon, in this game, Bearbarian?

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Either the Jag-22 Aeterna Katana if I need a little more reach, or the Jag 9 "Longfang" Mk. III for everything else.

[@sithgaming9129]

I was watching my brother play this game and the bosses back leg had to cooling tanks on it instead of two white cooling tanks in the front for some reason it was weird guess it was a bug

[@fuzzybearbarian]

That's a new one on me, haven't seen that before I don't think.

[@matthias3175]

How do you block, the attacks from Johnny? Its great, never seen before. Greetings from Germany!

[@fuzzybearbarian]

You have to time you blocks correctly. Have the mod which shows which direction to block and then practice to get the timing right. Can't really explain the timing as for me personally I just get a feel for it when I'm doing it and some attacks are slightly different than others. Keep practicing until you see the block directional icon go green and you'll know you're nailing the timing.

[@matthias3175]

@@fuzzybearbarian Thank your Great Bearbarian, i will try it, can i Block with every weapon? What i dont unterstand is the attack value it´s so low, 12 Attackvalue andn 92 Damage. Fuzzy thank you for this fast and great intruction. Great video, thanks.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@matthias3175 Yep you can block with any weapon but the easiest weapons to block with are by far dual weapons, especially the dual punching weapons. Basically the faster the attack speed on a weapon the easy it is to block with it, mainly because you can time the parry window a little easier since the weapon is more responsive. That's why you'll see a lot of speed runners do so with dual weapons.

[@matthias3175]

@@fuzzybearbarian your are right it was not hard to beat him after inclucding the mod. Thank you Fuzzy Bearbarian

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@matthias3175 The mod is really handy. I think I kept it on for the whole game just about.

[@matthias3175]

Fuzzy Bearbarian can you say may where i got this great "Spear"? I am core level 26 and i got Johnny till the last tongs, better level a bit. Thank you Bearbarian, for your guide.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

From Brother Truman, but you asked about that on another video so I'm pretty sure you worked that out since this comment :D

[@matthias3175]

@@fuzzybearbarian I loose against Truman, can i find him further in the game or must i play new game+. He is not on the balcony anymore.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

I'm not sure if you get to see him again if you lose (he shows up to fight you later if you kill Eli but I'm not sure if that happens if you already fought him or not), but I do know you can still get his weapon later in the game from another NPC that asks you questions you have to answer correctly. But that's later in the game, so you'll have to wait I guess.

[@matthias3175]

@@fuzzybearbarian Thank you for your fast answer SoloVG, i am not at home i can try it next week. I need a case with a monitor for my x. I work as freelancer for abas and sap in external sales.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@matthias3175 Freelancing can be tough. I spent quite a few years doing the same. One other thing I didn't mention is if you got Truman's spear at the start of the game, the NPC that hands it out later in the game will hand out a different spear. Just letting you know in case you ever do another play through.

[@NinjaGames443]

Its so hard to block his moves. My timing is never right. Tried like 50 times already. Mastering sekiro parry wasnt this hard. Can someone confirm that we point the R joystick to the direction of the attack and then press L1 just before the hit?

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Other way around. Hold block, then move your stick in the direction you want to block.

[@NinjaGames443]

Boss Fight Score I just figured it out. I was able to parry him the first try. Thanks for the video -)

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Brilliant!

[@darkdestructer]

Cant you just spam down one of his arms with your drone?

[@matthias3175]

I seen @12:40 you use the mod with arm and the target, what does it do i only have 4 mod slots.

[@fuzzybearbarian]

When you attack a specific body part you can inadvertently hit body parts you're not targeting. If you do that, you can deplete an enemy's health before you weaken the body part armor you're trying to cut off. This mod helps prevent that from happening by reducing the damage you do to any area other than the area you're targeting by 75%.

[@matthias3175]

@@fuzzybearbarian Thx, that means you always hit a body part, right?

[@oogieboogie1578]

managed to do him without blocking once (coz i suck like that) just use sniper drone and spam attack on those claws)

[@fuzzybearbarian]

It's much harder to do it without blocking him so good job.

[@jasonleejames_official]

What spear is that? I saw a guy with it but he was an NPC

[@fuzzybearbarian]

It's Brother Truman's. I killed that NPC the first time I met him and took his spear. Video is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3mkf4idis-Wo68

[@kwangee]

i hit him when he fall down, i was like bouncing back..😢

[@DaylandWolf]

um y is the 5th video in V2.0 weapons deleted???

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Stupid copyright claims being lodged claiming rights to the music in the game on behalf of the composer. I'd rather delete those videos than deal with that shit.

[@sosa7557]

He make that shit look easy lol

[@fuzzybearbarian]

True, but he's a handful. A lot of people really struggle with this boss, maybe even more than Delver. Thankfully unlike Delver you only need to beat him once!

[@deaneyle3940]

Jesus, I already beat him before watching your video and I don't even remember how the hell can I beat him without much difficult, it only took me two tries !!

[@Goldie_25]

what weapon are you using?

[@OfficialUgandanKnuckles]

Gaia Lancer

[@Ol_fisherman04]

Subscribe! Wish me luck!

[@melaniestone3189]

is little Johnny in port Nixon?

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Yes, at Terminal Z.

[@darkdestructer]

Bro how many ppl are complaining about how hard this boss is in your comment section.. never played souls-likes I guess. Yes lock-on can be frustrating but yknow what guys? you can actually move your character so he faces the enemy and hits him without lock-on.. Would love to see half that comment section playing the bloodborne DLC. sorry for being zynical but damn bro..

[@HurrichaneGames]

What is the name of the weapon you're using?

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Brother Truman's Faith Mk. II : kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3mkf4idis-Wo68

[@HurrichaneGames]

@@fuzzybearbarian Thanks!But I have another question...if I kill Brother Truman,his death will impact in the story mission?

[@HeathenArtifex]

dude how come i keep getting shocked by the boss when i try to hit em ?

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Maybe stepping on his little land mine things, they shock you. Sometimes they can be under his feet preventing you from seeing them, so when you attack you take shock damage without really knowing why. That's why when he puts them down it's best to move to a part of the arena where the mines aren't.

[@HeathenArtifex]

@@fuzzybearbarian Thank you good sir !

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@HeathenArtifex No probs, cheers!

[@oliverqueen629]

My blocking doesnt work. I mean it doesnt but it never does the 3 parry thing. It just blocks some of his swings

[@fuzzybearbarian]

That means you're not timing it properly. Timing it properly is what stuns him. If you just press block and don't time it precisely, it won't work like you're saying.

[@oliverqueen629]

@@fuzzybearbarian ah. So when it flashes yellow is that when I'm supposed to trigger the block?

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@oliverqueen629 No. The arrows don't help with timing at all. Instead, arrows only tell you the direction to block. You have to work out the timing yourself ultimately by watching the enemy and getting used to their attacks. As far as color goes, white is just the directional attack heads up. Yellow means your block wasn't perfect, green means it was perfect. Those colors only apply after the fact, and usually (I think) only on the strike that would have stunned the enemy had it been blocked properly.

[@oliverqueen629]

@@fuzzybearbarian ok thanks. I just get really annoyed at it sometimes cuz I hesitate alot. So when its time to block I either hesitate and block way to early or hesitate and block to late and get hit

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@oliverqueen629 Some people find the blocking in The Surge 2 really hard to do. I get it - some things in games click with some people and not with others. I know a ton of people who have played the entire game through doing nothing but dodging. I never really looked into builds for dodging, but you could maybe do that if blocking continues to be a pain.

[@willhodgson4133]

i dont get it? my stamina is 40 but i cant even get the 3 blocks in as by the 3rd ive run out? what am i doing wrong.... this boss is so fucked

[@fuzzybearbarian]

I have my complete build in the description if that helps?

[@willhodgson4133]

@@fuzzybearbarian all good thanks mate, i decided to play it like dark souls and just dodge and it was easier for me that way

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@willhodgson4133 Good thing is you can play the whole game with just dodging, although that makes the fight against the Matriarch Celeste a LOT harder. Still doable though.

[@willhodgson4133]

@@fuzzybearbarian yeah just done him last night, used the starfish and cheesed him, also killed the mechdog just then.. having fun so far!

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@willhodgson4133 Sounds like you're making some pretty fast progress there.

[@lconthebeat]

anyone know a way to block on pc keyboard aint working 4 me he just hits me :( eventhough i press block button which is E on my keyboard

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Hold your block button and then move the mouse in the direction you want to block. So if it's an attack coming from the right, you hold block button and move/flick the mouse to the right, etc.

[@sergiojetro4522]

I don't like blocking, I like action

[@fuzzybearbarian]

You can dodge and kill him to your hearts content. It just takes a little longer.

[@xanderboyd2401]

Same

[@mohammadalsandi3944]

All bosses easy because I playing blood borne to hard.

[@cipciprian957]

Big help for me not thank you

[@xanderboyd2401]

This is impossible

[@xanderboyd2401]

I died like 100 Times

[@fuzzybearbarian]

The whole game is pretty hard. It also depends on your gear. Certain gear and weapons will make things easier or harder. Sorry to say, there's harder bosses to come too, so think of this is practice!

[@peterdaley6525]

Holy hell this seems annoying AF. 😂

[@fuzzybearbarian]

Getting V2 weapons does make the fights go on longer, but I guess there's a kind of payoff at the end. I think the fights are generally more fun when you don't care and just attack however you want.

[@peterdaley6525]

Fuzzy Bearbarian Is there a trophy for getting all the V2’s? On that note, that was a trophy in the first one right? I didn’t make that up over the years? 😂

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@peterdaley6525 I don't know. At some point in the not too recent past I stopped caring about trophy's. Maybe it was with Sekiro where it took 7 play throughs to get platinum, by the end of which I was like, "I'm never trophy hunting again" lol.

[@peterdaley6525]

Fuzzy Bearbarian Update; I did it, with the special weapon. It just clicked one battle and I found his “sweet spot” for dodging (since I’m horrible at directional parries)

[@fuzzybearbarian]

@@peterdaley6525 Awesome!