FWD vs RWD vs AWD: Know How to Handle Your Junk! - The Racing Line Ep. 9

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@andraewilliams3928
@andraewilliams3928 7 жыл бұрын
Doing donuts while reversing is the coolest and funniest way i ever saw it done. lol Randy you the best.
@5thgearouttahere
@5thgearouttahere 5 жыл бұрын
@Vinícius same
@Fanaz10
@Fanaz10 5 жыл бұрын
straight out of the midnight club
@Smokeyjoedamanedamythdalegend
@Smokeyjoedamanedamythdalegend 5 жыл бұрын
No bullshit when I first got my Toyota Corolla I wanted to see if it was able to be drifted. Found a housing complex being built with a circle so I’d do doughnuts in the circle. Hit the perfect 180 and turned that into another spin till I had the back tires smoking, blew my mind. I’ve never tried it in reverse I’d crash forsure lol.
@fiestameisterse5868
@fiestameisterse5868 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh the reverse doughnuts used to do them a lot with my first car as old pos 91 Ford Escort Lx 4 door hatchback it was fun but that's bout the only fun thing that junker had goin for it 🤣
@ridernotrunner
@ridernotrunner 4 жыл бұрын
One of my faves. I do it way too often in my Fiesta ST haha.
@niksarass
@niksarass 8 жыл бұрын
In reverse, a FWD becomes a RWD with rear engine
@niksarass
@niksarass 8 жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstood my point.
@niksarass
@niksarass 8 жыл бұрын
I wasn't comparing performance. I was comparing relative traction. And a FWD car in reverse has actually a shorter radius than a Porsche in straight, because directing wheels would be behind. And yeah I would never compare a Porsche to a Ford in performance.
@gustafrenstrom8549
@gustafrenstrom8549 7 жыл бұрын
with rear wheel steering
@Mainiac1221
@Mainiac1221 7 жыл бұрын
Thus is the logic behind the rwd of the Toyota MR2!
@legend2533
@legend2533 6 жыл бұрын
Gustaf Renström *FORKLIFT DORIFTO*
@dominikvereno3783
@dominikvereno3783 8 жыл бұрын
now i know how to handle my junk
@arienwilkins
@arienwilkins 8 жыл бұрын
you look like a man who knows how to handle his junk
@drewgarrett
@drewgarrett 8 жыл бұрын
+Nik Brudar bruh
@TheCanadianCyclist
@TheCanadianCyclist 8 жыл бұрын
J to the U to the N to the K...
@cola20845
@cola20845 8 жыл бұрын
But can you handle your junk in the trunk?
@TheBikemaster94
@TheBikemaster94 8 жыл бұрын
+cola20845 dus guy is gay^^^
@andrechristiansen2161
@andrechristiansen2161 8 жыл бұрын
my driving style is to go full bonkers while listening to running in the 90s
@Gohan_with_glasses000
@Gohan_with_glasses000 8 жыл бұрын
initial D style !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@andrechristiansen2161
@andrechristiansen2161 8 жыл бұрын
yes
@Skirk84
@Skirk84 8 жыл бұрын
"is a new way i like to be!"
@Fizz826
@Fizz826 7 жыл бұрын
Me too. With my AE86
@adammaulana3314
@adammaulana3314 6 жыл бұрын
Thats bunta impreza right?
@jacksonsweet4893
@jacksonsweet4893 5 жыл бұрын
"Nothing comes out of the corner as ferociously as an all-wheel drive car." Takumi: hold my tofu
@xanderfpv2629
@xanderfpv2629 4 жыл бұрын
Gutter driving ftw
@TheWatcher-eq8ep
@TheWatcher-eq8ep 4 жыл бұрын
Bunta: hold my cigarette
@rockonmyfriend
@rockonmyfriend 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWatcher-eq8ep Bunta: Actually nvm, I’ll hold it. [Zero handed drift intensifies]
@jeffy69696
@jeffy69696 Жыл бұрын
Only one way to win a fwd race 😑
@danieloboechevarria1783
@danieloboechevarria1783 6 ай бұрын
He lost several times against his dad Subaru
@ZephyrCorsa
@ZephyrCorsa 8 жыл бұрын
The ND MX5, Focus ST, and the 2015 WRX STi are some great looking cars
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 7 жыл бұрын
minus the Focus ST
@KaiForce
@KaiForce 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@TheK18
@TheK18 4 жыл бұрын
Would've been sick if they used a mazda for all 3: an ND Miata for RWD, a Mazdaspeed3 for FWD (an even better example of torque steer for a RWD/AWD driver than a focus st), and a Mazdaspeed6 for AWD
@mattyee9369
@mattyee9369 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheK18 Mazdaspeed6 awd system isn't the same as Subaru. Sti is a rally legend and far superior awd system and suspension. Also a much more balanced low center of gravity.
@TheK18
@TheK18 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattyee9369 it’s still awd though, wouldn’t really matter whether or not it was a rally tuned one because they are on a road course anyways
@jerryldavis1823
@jerryldavis1823 8 жыл бұрын
awd for lap times and rwd for fun.
@rogertransam7401
@rogertransam7401 8 жыл бұрын
fwd is to take your son to soccer practice lol
@weed46
@weed46 8 жыл бұрын
depending on the track, conditions, and car racing rules
@SIRICKO
@SIRICKO 8 жыл бұрын
Tell that to wtcc honda team and watch them laugh at yo dumb ass lol
@weed46
@weed46 8 жыл бұрын
SI RICKO LoL... another uninformed "racing fan". Do you know what "Balance of performance" in racing is? Racing series like WTCC make the cars balance, so in there you can have RWD, AWD or FWD, they will balance weight and power so that car has no pace advantage. That's why BMW's on WTCC always had heavy weight penalty, because RWD would be always faster than RWD The exact same happens in GT3 championship, that's why you see Bentley's fighting ferraris, because they balance the performance Do some research before posting rubish
@SIRICKO
@SIRICKO 8 жыл бұрын
Jonny Oliveira u talking to the wrong guy kid.
@Gr3ypool
@Gr3ypool 8 жыл бұрын
Haha I love this, this guy is awesome.
@MotorTrendWatch
@MotorTrendWatch 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jonathanramirez232
@jonathanramirez232 7 жыл бұрын
Motor Trend Channel Do you guys get a notification when someone replies like this? Btw that reverse doughnut was amazing!
@Saya-fs1jo
@Saya-fs1jo 7 жыл бұрын
+Motor Trend Channel whatever happened to this show? did it get canceled? move to mtod? turned seasonal or interfere with pobsts schedule? really was a good program with a lot of humour and may not have been particularly detailed but I could have a laugh watching what I already knew. I am glad pobst shows up in a lot of other motor trend programming but it was niche him having his own program to add to the lineup
@Fizz826
@Fizz826 7 жыл бұрын
I have met Randy in 3 different occasions in 3 different decades. Neuspeed Accord in the 90's, tri-point Mazda in the 00's and K-Pax Volvo and Porsche in 2010. Never was he not enthusiastic about life and racing!!!
@Saya-fs1jo
@Saya-fs1jo 7 жыл бұрын
+Fizz826 cool, glad to hear it not just played up particularly more for the show. he gives the impression he has a good bit of that enthusiasm in life in general. gotta be a fun guy to hang around
@mannyhunt4925
@mannyhunt4925 8 жыл бұрын
I can't get over the feeling that this was filmed in a Window's Vista wallpaper...Oh, and nice vid.
@shobin05
@shobin05 8 жыл бұрын
I wish they made it longer for this particular episode. I think there could be a lot more techniques to learn rather than just 1 corner. Also would be great if they could show us randy's foot work when taking a corner like one of those best motoring shows.
@FlyingAero
@FlyingAero 8 жыл бұрын
Rear wheel drive is best wheel drive
@bcubed72
@bcubed72 8 жыл бұрын
+ZonGonZ1495 ...and RWD laughs at AWD once a mechanic gets involved.
@GaryBusey-sLaserdiscCollection
@GaryBusey-sLaserdiscCollection 8 жыл бұрын
The same way a Stratos laughs at a Quattro?
@charjohnnie
@charjohnnie 8 жыл бұрын
+ZonGonZ1495 there's a reason the best cars are RWD and not to mention the highest for of racing uses RWD vehicles, you carry more weight on the turns and there's less power train loss, RWD FTW
@charjohnnie
@charjohnnie 8 жыл бұрын
+ZonGonZ1495 fair enough, awd has gone a long way
@tougeruzbay
@tougeruzbay 8 жыл бұрын
And AWD
@dronepicsbh
@dronepicsbh 7 жыл бұрын
OMG. One of finest videos about cars I ever seen on youtube. Simple, objective, clear, clear, direct, without any kind of bullshit. Awesome! Thank you. Hugs from Brasil.
@tjay84
@tjay84 8 жыл бұрын
Torque Steer isn't caused by the front wheels having to do too many things. It is caused by unequal length driveshafts.. A fwd car with a longitudinal engine will not torque steer..
@Saya-fs1jo
@Saya-fs1jo 8 жыл бұрын
more so because of a requisite open differential fovoring power to one side and an effect of kingpin angle allowing power to steer that wheel same happen under braking but evenly so it isn't noticed there, the amount of rotational distortion between half shafts of unequal length would show itself in most solid axle vehicles if it were enough to notice were talking not even a minute of angle of deviation as far as the torsional flex goes
@richzilla08
@richzilla08 8 жыл бұрын
+Saya 1 You said a lot of words in a seemingly educated manner so I'll just go ahead and assume you know what you're talking about.
@longestblock
@longestblock 8 жыл бұрын
+richzilla08 open Diffs will favor one side in certain conditions and when power is applied, since the front wheels also steer, it'll tug on the steering rack
@slackergurl
@slackergurl 8 жыл бұрын
true
@nukedathlonman
@nukedathlonman 8 жыл бұрын
Very true - every FWD variant of the B5 Passat (PL45) /Audi A4 (Typ 8D) I have driven isn't/wasn't prone to torque steer (longitudinal engine in a FWD format). But then again, the motor's where adequately powered from the factory (well, I think the non-turbo 1.8 would have been very under powered while the W8 would have been about right - I never had an opportunity to drive either). Mind you, the 8 control arm front suspension (two upper, two lower control arms per front wheel) is very over engineered and very prone to other problems (such as premature bushing failure - the design puts a lot of stress on the bushings when the steering knuckles change angle for cornering)...
@RanninRavensight
@RanninRavensight 8 жыл бұрын
He says to pick your drivetrain, by I say you should always race with the car you have. I think you can have equal amounts of fun in all sorts of cars as long as you know the car well.
@CobraDBlade
@CobraDBlade 8 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing an example like this comparing front engine RWD, mid engine RWD, and rear engine RWD. Where that lump of an engine sits changes the driving dynamics considerably.
@HarmanMotorWorks
@HarmanMotorWorks 8 жыл бұрын
FWD also has less power losses through the drivetrain in general
@BlatentlyFakeName
@BlatentlyFakeName 6 жыл бұрын
But lost again through torque steer. Also more wheel spin due to weight shifting to the rear, away from the drive wheels.
@Chespin-gc1rf
@Chespin-gc1rf 6 жыл бұрын
Depends if the engine is longitudinal you won’t torque steer
@inox1ck
@inox1ck 5 жыл бұрын
Chespin1235 it depends if the differential is central mounted
@TheK18
@TheK18 4 жыл бұрын
What you said about weight transfer is absolutely correct, and probably FWD's differentshafts powering the wheels from the front differential/transaxle. When a high torque motor is paired with these unequal length half shafts, one shaft will need to receive slightly more torque from the differential to spin the corresponding wheel with the same power as the other. Ordinarily, this wouldn't be an issue, as the differential would simply correct for the discrepancy and power the wheels as it needs to, however we are talking FWD, where the front wheels are also responsible for steering. This difference in torque to each half shaft will cause the wheels to pull one way or the other as one is being slightly overtorqued whereas the other is being slightly undertorqued. Torque steer can be frightening and a bit irritating as first, but so long as you can hold a firm grip on the steering wheel and maintain control over your line, you can pretty much eliminate it. I say this as the owner of a Mazdaspeed3, a car infamous for "aggressive torque steer" even from the factory. In the community for these cars we tend to laugh at how much reviewers comment on the torque steer, because once you drive one every day and learn how the car feels under power, you pretty much correct any torque steer you experience instinctively, negating its effects. There are a number of time attack built MS3s with horsepower well above 350 at the wheels and torque eclipsing 400 at the wheels (for reference stock is 263 bhp and 280 lb/ft) who can still put down remarkably quick lap times for a FWD despite any reviewer of those cars making it sound as though the torque steer is unbearable and makes the car feel difficult to control.
@augustopinochet6899
@augustopinochet6899 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chespin-gc1rf Except a longitudinal fed setup kind of defeats the purpose of fwd
@benjaminmasters5375
@benjaminmasters5375 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, very professional, great host, and u explain how the things work with those little diagrams, great job!!!!!! oh and RWD is best for me, will never give up my RWD truck
@MotorTrendWatch
@MotorTrendWatch 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Benjamin! We appreciate the feedback.
@KennyLaura
@KennyLaura 8 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. Other shows need more Randy too.
@benjaminmasters5375
@benjaminmasters5375 8 жыл бұрын
+John Wick what do u mean? ????
@jjwatson858
@jjwatson858 8 жыл бұрын
+John Wick lol my truck has beat many sports cars in races theirs nothing null about a truck my truck will drift just as good as some small sports cars i found that out lol
@benjaminmasters5375
@benjaminmasters5375 8 жыл бұрын
+jj Watson ikr, id buy a big truck before i would ever buy a sports car
@L3uX
@L3uX 8 жыл бұрын
Now the REAL question: How do I drive a car in the first place?
@xXAlmdudlerXx
@xXAlmdudlerXx 8 жыл бұрын
Be faster than everybody else
@endlessroadie3131
@endlessroadie3131 8 жыл бұрын
the most important thing to know, be extra careful when a bmw is around you. they don't have indicators lol
@neolweneht
@neolweneht 8 жыл бұрын
Only use the break. Never use gas.
@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights
@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights 8 жыл бұрын
Buy an Xbox
@jamppa530
@jamppa530 8 жыл бұрын
mine does :D and i generally tend to use it aswell
@Sbayo9
@Sbayo9 8 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds and speaks like Scotty Kilmer :D
@ArZer
@ArZer 3 жыл бұрын
haha he does
@jonathanburrows9542
@jonathanburrows9542 8 жыл бұрын
Dear Motor Trend Channel, BF Goodrich Tires, Tire Rack, and Mr. Randy Pobst, Thank you so much for doing these Racing Line videos. I enjoy the heck out of them. I know they don't get made without sponsors, so thank you for your support!
@madcarrotracing5319
@madcarrotracing5319 3 жыл бұрын
I drive an AWD car and I've been looking online for explanations of how the racing lines differ between RWD and AWD cars, as all HPDEs I've been to taught the RWD line (as most people have RWDs). I really liked the clear illustrations in this video, and I wished it had gone more in depth about the differences. What's amazing is that, after 4 years, this video is still the only place I can find on the internet that explains the different lines 😂 I'd really appreciate if someone can point me to more resources on this topic!
@anejkamsek
@anejkamsek 4 ай бұрын
I cant like this video enough. I have been searching for an actual explanation for about a month. Luckily i found this gem today. Great video👍🏼
@Dr_Monitor
@Dr_Monitor 8 жыл бұрын
I've been driving FWD cars since I learned to drive. I have driven a few RWD cars, and have nearly ended my life in all of them (I'm used to understeer!).
@jacksontan1360
@jacksontan1360 6 жыл бұрын
Understeer is way more scarier than over steer.
@h5skb4ru41
@h5skb4ru41 6 жыл бұрын
@@jacksontan1360 just let go of the gas and you'll probably be fine
@cantstopmygo420
@cantstopmygo420 5 жыл бұрын
@@h5skb4ru41 do Not just drop your throttle if you start to oversteer lol. You'll find yourself in a bush, by letting off the gas at the wrong time you are adding grip back to your rear-wheels which will immediately want to straighten your line. If you do this mid corner you will be lucky to stay on the road, RWD is all about breaking early and learning to ease into your acceleration as you round the bend. You can notice this in how much longer the line is for a RWD than a FWD. The FWD brakes Hard into the corner so the understeer can whip it into place, while the RWD brakes softer earlier, uses momentum to get into the corner and steady acceleration to come out of it. Best way to deal with a slip is to counter-steer or drift. To do this, turn your wheel towards where your tail is kicking out, squeeze the throttle just a bit, once you feel your car even out immediately return the wheel to the neutral position (either by letting go and catching or simply turning with your hands; I would advise learning to catch, let the car do the work.) I would advise if you want to train up to find a empty parking lot and force your car to slip so you can get used to it, otherwise the best option is to simply avoid slips by driving Smoothly. No sudden rpm shifts.
@h5skb4ru41
@h5skb4ru41 5 жыл бұрын
@@cantstopmygo420 I refer that understeer can be countered by letting go sometimes.
@joshk.1642
@joshk.1642 5 жыл бұрын
100% this. I let off the throttle just yesterday mid turn so I could take a highway turn ramp at 70 instead of 45 limit in my FWD Maxima
@lejink
@lejink 8 жыл бұрын
Randy, you're my favorite of all the Motor Trend presenters. I'm really glad they've given you your own series for people wanting to learn more technical aspects of driving. I know the average viewer doesn't want to learn too much because they will get bored. Does the average viewers of channels like this already have a good understanding of the basics covered in this kind of video though? It's such a difficult line to walk on, (too technical vs too simple) but I'd really like to see content that skips the really fundamental aspects that anyone with interest in cars/driving will already know This is not the channel I'd expect that kind of content from, but I'm struggling to find it anywhere! BestMotoring was great, but it's in Japanese.. I'd just love to see someone with racing experience that can tell us about a car's handling and give us driving advice. Are there channels someone could suggest to me?
@CPerry-yq1fj
@CPerry-yq1fj 8 жыл бұрын
Sort of a Bill Nye the science guy motor head thang.... nice.
@Obviously_pro
@Obviously_pro 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this video is super amazing. Way better than I could’ve asked for as far as free content and training. You guys are great for this
@FCAutos
@FCAutos 8 жыл бұрын
That *Subaru*....
@sirsmack
@sirsmack 3 жыл бұрын
I dig tha info! More videos like this but separately for each type and in-depth. I could watch listen to you all day dawg
@hectorae86
@hectorae86 8 жыл бұрын
0:34 "for track work, this is the ideal configuration for 2 wheel drive"..... My MR2 wants to let you know it feels offended.
@davidmcclelland8090
@davidmcclelland8090 8 жыл бұрын
My old Fiero also took offense, as did most educated in physics as well as many Italian, German and all F1 engineers.
@hectorae86
@hectorae86 8 жыл бұрын
David McClelland Ah yes, the Fiero, had one, sold it, hate myself now. Wanna buy one again in the future.
@rysingdragoon8735
@rysingdragoon8735 8 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the MR2 is actually Front engine, FWD, in reverse, because it used the same front wheel drive configuration in the corolla, and flipped it.
@hectorae86
@hectorae86 8 жыл бұрын
You watch too much Car Throttle :P But I have an SW20 MR2, not and AW11 MR2.
@becausereasons7637
@becausereasons7637 7 жыл бұрын
hectorae86 my dad used to own a fiero, somebody stole it
@slackergurl
@slackergurl 8 жыл бұрын
And that's how he dances. Thanks for the instruction at Sebring. Between being told that I " parked it" and " light brake" I think I learned something. Good episode Randy.
@robotfishFX
@robotfishFX 3 жыл бұрын
Where tf is this location. Looks like a racetrack planted in the windows background
@CrackHead2024
@CrackHead2024 13 күн бұрын
xddd
@faisalhussain90
@faisalhussain90 8 жыл бұрын
RWD IS LIFE!!!
@JerseyMikeP
@JerseyMikeP 8 жыл бұрын
Definitely the most fun.
@moiv8
@moiv8 8 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely !
@Tryhardninjaas
@Tryhardninjaas 8 жыл бұрын
awd is a lot of fun in the snow though (less spinning out)
@NGC1433
@NGC1433 8 жыл бұрын
Never heard that from BMW drivers stuck in 4 inches of snow in the middle of the street. My rusty but trusty AWD forseter pulls them out easily though.
@NGC1433
@NGC1433 8 жыл бұрын
MORPH9999 I guess like 1 or 2 feet less than jeep driver yells for help from a real offroad vehicle.
@monfa8118
@monfa8118 5 жыл бұрын
"Too much drifting is slow" Takumi Fujiwara: NANI?!
@lifeofslade
@lifeofslade 2 жыл бұрын
I love Randy already! couldn't find the right youtube video to cheer me up after a long day.. til i found this!
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy for these interesting and informative videos. I'm trying to refine my driving techniques on my 370Z and so I try to implement the things you talk about.
@ruzzelladrian907
@ruzzelladrian907 5 жыл бұрын
MotorTrend's camera equipment and video calibration looks so life-like. The dynamic range is incredible.
@felipepagan7238
@felipepagan7238 6 жыл бұрын
FWD deserves a lot love as well
@emissarygw2264
@emissarygw2264 Жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting. I recently traded my wrx for a miata and definitely noticed what you said about awd being able to really power out of the corners by comparison.
@vlad1871
@vlad1871 8 жыл бұрын
The legends say if you come here early motortrend responds BTW Randy is awesome
@oh_zoinkers
@oh_zoinkers 8 жыл бұрын
Not true
@faisal3398
@faisal3398 8 жыл бұрын
100% not true
@nikb6528
@nikb6528 8 жыл бұрын
+Hugh Jayness I give him a C-
@Staayreal
@Staayreal 8 жыл бұрын
legends say you're a trendy youtube nerd
@MotorTrendWatch
@MotorTrendWatch 8 жыл бұрын
Hi VladMtg!
@rawolf1475
@rawolf1475 5 жыл бұрын
Randy Pobst is literally the Bill Nye of the car enthusiast world
@amadeusbenjamincho249
@amadeusbenjamincho249 5 жыл бұрын
I do not care what anyone produces, I trust this Randy Pobst with my life.
@bryanjanda1369
@bryanjanda1369 7 жыл бұрын
Hes sooo fucking funny. Bill nye the car guy
@_baller
@_baller 7 жыл бұрын
Randy Pobst is the coolest dude and coolest old dude out there.. everybody should be like him
@DanDoesGame
@DanDoesGame 5 жыл бұрын
2:44 LMFAO!! idk why that made me laugh so much, but it did
@Synthwave89
@Synthwave89 6 жыл бұрын
This is so cool. Haven't watched motor trend in a long while and now Randy is his own host. This is too great to put into words, great work motor trend.
@elijahbutterfield4869
@elijahbutterfield4869 8 жыл бұрын
you guys left out one wheel drive..... how do you take on the track when you're on a motorcycle? ;(
@mcheeb8256
@mcheeb8256 4 жыл бұрын
Or just don't have an lsd
@bserieshatch1
@bserieshatch1 Жыл бұрын
Torque steer is not caused by overworked tires, but by unequal length axles and connection to the steering column.
@MitchDenham
@MitchDenham 8 жыл бұрын
I love 'The Racing Line' and Randy is awesome, but this episode felt rushed; I wish it was a bit longer :)
@mthlaxer
@mthlaxer 8 жыл бұрын
Randy Pobst is the man!!! i'd watch his show any day
@idriwzrd
@idriwzrd 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, Randy, how about a video on left-foot braking?
@MotorTrendWatch
@MotorTrendWatch 8 жыл бұрын
We'll see what we can do...
@mincenchez5887
@mincenchez5887 5 жыл бұрын
I've ridden in a couple cars, two favourites have been a Holden commodore clubsport, the guy got a ton of engine work done on it (if you're not from Australia or New Zealand just Imagine a 2010 Camaro ss) and second favourite being a bug eye Subaru wrx sti, I don't know what was done to it but it was real quick. And you can definitely tell if the car you're driving is awd rwd or fwd. the Subaru felt real good around corners, but didn't have the same punch on the straight. Clubsport felt like it could break traction if you went to fast around a turn, but felt crazy on the straight with how quick it took off. Both were great cars
@jamesmcguire8577
@jamesmcguire8577 8 жыл бұрын
Another episode idea = MR vs. FR vs. RR. Looking forward to the next episode!
@Alexandra-Rex
@Alexandra-Rex 8 жыл бұрын
I was eating something greasy while watching this, so best part for me was at the end when I couldn't stop the video when I thought it was over, and then got to see Randy dance \o/
@Broccoli_Highkicks
@Broccoli_Highkicks Жыл бұрын
The fact that 99% of car owners never drive on a track, and don't want to drift in traffic, might have something to do with the popularity of fwd, no? For the overwhelming majority of car owners, fwd is the best compromise between safety and (maintenance) cost. For most people, a car isn't a toy, it's simply transportation.
@sagarus-x4
@sagarus-x4 Жыл бұрын
That is true. But this video still provides solid knowledge on cornering. Most people when buying a car don't even know the differences between a RWD, FWD, etc.
@yongling9825
@yongling9825 7 ай бұрын
​@@sagarus-x4 Which kind of explains why noobs keep crashing Mustangs, or any RWD for that matter. 😂
@kingsnake545
@kingsnake545 8 жыл бұрын
I've found that letting off the accelerator going into a corner and stepping on it when it becomes straight allows better cornering in fwd because of less load on the front tires.
@shshh-fw9eh
@shshh-fw9eh 4 жыл бұрын
A great lesson from Randy, I've learned a lot. But I can't really get my head around why the lines for the awd and fwd have to be different. Modern front drive cars with a proper limited slip differential can exit a corner just as ferociously as their all wheel drive counterparts. They can also be trail braked into oversteer on the corner entry and then straightened with throttle on the corner exit, just like awd cars. I am aware the Focus ST featured in the vid does not come with an lsd. I wonder if that is the reason Randy came up with two different lines? On a side note, it's interesting how you go through the corner in the Focus is remarkably similar to how I would do in my 997 Turbo. Trail braking on the way in so it doesn't understeer, excercising patience mid-corner going for a late apex and once you hit it then full throttle on the way out leaning on its tremendous traction. It will be truly great if Randy could personally answer it but probably he wouldn't get to see this comment. A big thank you Randy anyway, and I wish you all the best.
@wayobayo
@wayobayo 3 жыл бұрын
I know im responding to your comment a year late. But when I was following my friend's 997 turbo in my 10th gen civic through angeles crest hwy, I found that our braking points were extremely similar.
@caalcb7
@caalcb7 8 жыл бұрын
I have a Fwd and now i know to handle it. thanks Randy and Motor trend!
@xxpartybangersxx
@xxpartybangersxx 8 жыл бұрын
the production quality is great!
@MotorTrendWatch
@MotorTrendWatch 8 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, Ben!
@3b3id
@3b3id 8 жыл бұрын
+Motor Trend Channel nice!
@merlindouglaslarsen1684
@merlindouglaslarsen1684 5 жыл бұрын
Randy, Randy, he's our man, he drivers faster than anyone can. Well, maybe not faster, but faster longer. And he got more out of the Kia Stinger than anybody else last year.
@lynnmckenney1987
@lynnmckenney1987 7 жыл бұрын
mid engine rwd > all. I mean, who doesn't love liftoff snap oversteer mid corner?
@conn4832
@conn4832 7 жыл бұрын
Mitsu Lancer Evo: I thought everyone loved me.........
@brownpower9229
@brownpower9229 7 жыл бұрын
Christ help me You're aight, but I gotta be fair to my fairlady
@legend2533
@legend2533 6 жыл бұрын
Christ help me Bruh *EVO ALL DAY*
@cantstopmygo420
@cantstopmygo420 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't had a chance to drive mid-engine yet. picked up a old 80's C4 in highschool and recently a G37s to replace a rusted out 4Runner as my daily driver. Love both of them, I'll drive them until the engines die
@ragequitter
@ragequitter 4 жыл бұрын
The channel was all I ever wanted
@ryanlidel1848
@ryanlidel1848 7 жыл бұрын
2:50 does anybody else do this a lot with FWD cars in racing games besides me?
@BadassEFdriver
@BadassEFdriver 7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Lidel Gran Turismo?
@ryanlidel1848
@ryanlidel1848 7 жыл бұрын
Well I play forza
@fabianmarcoschau
@fabianmarcoschau 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Lidel YES
@usuallyclueless4477
@usuallyclueless4477 5 жыл бұрын
i do it in GTA lol
@KevinAbillGaming
@KevinAbillGaming 5 жыл бұрын
I did this in Juiced, when doing showoff events in my FTO.
@luceatlux7087
@luceatlux7087 3 жыл бұрын
my dad said he would, "NEVER buy a rwd again," after he experienced, "pin-balling," back and fourth on a bridge, trying to get control of his new car for for 5 minutes straight in winter/icy conditions, until he just stopped the car and admitted defeat in the middle of a bridge road, having it towed, while the car was in complete working condition. lol.
@mikeR39
@mikeR39 8 жыл бұрын
I wish the episodes were slightly longer
@MotorTrendWatch
@MotorTrendWatch 8 жыл бұрын
Duly noted. Thanks for letting us know.
@Superseahawk23
@Superseahawk23 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A 10-minute episode would be perfect. I feel like there is just way too much info to fit into this short of a video.
@BobFlavinVideo
@BobFlavinVideo 8 жыл бұрын
Great episode, I really love the shots from camera team. Well done all
@mrdave777
@mrdave777 5 жыл бұрын
When there is snow and ice and I don’t have AWD? I’ll take FWD any day!
@sekutofu6471
@sekutofu6471 4 жыл бұрын
the best video that ever poped in my recommodation
@michaeldaunicorn5314
@michaeldaunicorn5314 4 жыл бұрын
Forza in real life. This is my dream
@louisbarningham
@louisbarningham 7 жыл бұрын
YAY YOU HAVE GOT ALL THE CARS I LOVE IN ONE VIDEO!!!!
@GeeksterzChannel
@GeeksterzChannel 8 жыл бұрын
damn the MX5 is sooo sexy
@coel3572
@coel3572 5 жыл бұрын
If you have popup lights, you can even make it wink.
@abeerkhan5265
@abeerkhan5265 4 жыл бұрын
Ikkkk
@mahirakalucasahammed2443
@mahirakalucasahammed2443 3 жыл бұрын
That F**king 2WD
@MigotRen
@MigotRen 8 жыл бұрын
the 918 "awd" System is probably the Best of them all. majority of Power and weight in the back. the petrol engine is only and directly connected to the rear with electrical assistence giving you the handeling, Power and fun of a rwd car. In the Front you have a lower powered elctrical Motor that is seperate from the rear to save weight and still giving you instant torgue for maximum traction and stability of the line and out of corners if you wish so
@mrfrougeside621
@mrfrougeside621 6 жыл бұрын
2:51 how I drive fwd cars on video games
@ryanschurton
@ryanschurton 8 жыл бұрын
Randy has the best job ever.
@el5pk
@el5pk 8 жыл бұрын
This was sooooo well done 😢
@Boneychuck
@Boneychuck 8 жыл бұрын
1 wheel drive for me, my poor Elco doesn't have positraction. Love this show, I'd like to see a left foot brake episode also.
@ziahreid9269
@ziahreid9269 7 жыл бұрын
Why does this guy remind me of Winnie the Pooh?
@christophercordasco1739
@christophercordasco1739 7 жыл бұрын
ziah Reid i can see it
@carsage8836
@carsage8836 4 жыл бұрын
Can relate
@korpijeesus
@korpijeesus 7 жыл бұрын
After I bought my MR2 i learned one thing How to drive carefully. Snow, mid-engine rear wheel drive and bad winter tires give you the best spins.
@nobodyfamous7496
@nobodyfamous7496 6 жыл бұрын
i have the front right wheel and rear left wheel as my drivetrain
@TheJMedia
@TheJMedia 8 жыл бұрын
Good to learn how to handle different drivetrains on the track!
@ujjwalsr7211
@ujjwalsr7211 8 жыл бұрын
this guy grinds my gears
@daltonmorgan4342
@daltonmorgan4342 8 жыл бұрын
I swear I feel like the racing line is so under rated, it almost makes me feel bad for Randy. Don't worry Randy, I will always love you!!!
@MrRandomcommentguy
@MrRandomcommentguy 8 жыл бұрын
Torque steer happens because most FWD cars have drive shafts that are not the same length on either side.
@briansullins4778
@briansullins4778 8 жыл бұрын
There are a multitude of reasons torque steer happens. Although unequal length drive shafts is one of them, it's not the only one. Wheel offset, scrub radius, changing geometry when the wheels are turned from one side to the other, unequal weight on the front wheels, loading/unloading wheels while cornering, and differing traction between the front wheels, as well as several I've probably missed all contribute to torque steer. If it was as simple as equal length drive shafts, the problem would have been solved decades ago.
@MrThewildrider
@MrThewildrider 8 жыл бұрын
I think this show is underrated.
@RoninWalker6
@RoninWalker6 8 жыл бұрын
"4wd is for the weak" Jeremy Clarkson Australia Special.
@Krazorr
@Krazorr 8 жыл бұрын
Finally another episode about time please make more of these
@DilanHamawandy
@DilanHamawandy 8 жыл бұрын
Why so short? Give this man more air time!!!
@cesarm.gonzalez2663
@cesarm.gonzalez2663 8 жыл бұрын
having both a RWD and a AWD car it's hard to decide.. love to drive both.. love the grip of my awd can push it harder on turns.. but rwd it's more fun to drive when those rear wheels start to get loose..
@stefan-stocksmadesimple5241
@stefan-stocksmadesimple5241 8 жыл бұрын
4WD vs RWD vs AWD ? Shouldn't it be : 4WD vs RWD vs FWD ?
@TheIndoGod
@TheIndoGod 8 жыл бұрын
No. AWD Vs RWD Vs FWD
@stefan-stocksmadesimple5241
@stefan-stocksmadesimple5241 8 жыл бұрын
+I Dont Matter That's even more confusing than 4WD/RWD/AWD because some people can read it as AWD(all wheels)/RWD(rear wheels)/FWD(four wheels ....... just like AWD) , if that makes any sense
@OpTicBossaru
@OpTicBossaru 8 жыл бұрын
FWD is known to be front wheel drive, everyone knows that.
@AceDeuce221981
@AceDeuce221981 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Supra FWD always means Front Wheel Drive. They never use the letter F for 4 Wheel Drive.
@TheIndoGod
@TheIndoGod 8 жыл бұрын
+Stefan Supra 4 Wheel Drive And All Wheel Drive Function Different. 4 Wheel Drive Is Rear Wheel Drive Until You Switch Into 4 Wheel Drive
@brandonjan_
@brandonjan_ 2 жыл бұрын
thank you randall this video helped me fall in love with driving my car so many problems solved!
@ikbendusan
@ikbendusan 8 жыл бұрын
those animations for the corners are terrible. not timed properly, the lines are incorrect, they don't overlap with what randy is saying. rwd car, throttle comes on just as you pass the late apex, and in the animation it comes on when you're done with the corner. with the fwd car "aim for the late apex", meanwhile the animation shows a mid corner/early apex. awd car not even using the entire width of the track in the animation.
@PedroFTeixeira
@PedroFTeixeira 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I also thought the animation was very bad, But I guess we're alone here.
@shoryukenpower
@shoryukenpower 8 жыл бұрын
for proper accurate animations, subscribe to MotorTrend on Demand.
@ikbendusan
@ikbendusan 8 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha
@victorbitter583
@victorbitter583 8 жыл бұрын
NEVER!
@lucywucyyy
@lucywucyyy 8 жыл бұрын
yeah same
@sdffsdf4004
@sdffsdf4004 7 жыл бұрын
Most useful one of the whole series
@devinversteegen9305
@devinversteegen9305 5 жыл бұрын
Awd is the best💪
@joshuabuilds3051
@joshuabuilds3051 2 жыл бұрын
Randy Pobst gives me goosebumps.
@sanjeevfernando6288
@sanjeevfernando6288 5 жыл бұрын
Randy is what TopGear needs
@adityarai5367
@adityarai5367 6 жыл бұрын
I'll just take wheel drive
@flush_entity
@flush_entity 8 жыл бұрын
i went from a miata to a fiesta st. This is great info!
@iCGreen_
@iCGreen_ 8 жыл бұрын
Title is misleading
@ryvoltz
@ryvoltz 7 жыл бұрын
Randy Effing Pobst. Got to love this guy!
@willywillywillywillywilly
@willywillywillywillywilly 8 жыл бұрын
That outline for where the engine is in the Miata is wrong. It's a front-mid engine car now. Not a freaking Audi.
@LegendInThaMakin
@LegendInThaMakin 8 жыл бұрын
arent audis awd?
@TheVizie
@TheVizie 8 жыл бұрын
I bet you wish it was as good as an audi :/
@brandonsever2576
@brandonsever2576 8 жыл бұрын
+LegendInThaMakin yes, but the audi awd system puts the engine WAAY out in front of the front axle, so that the power goes straight through the front diff. He was saying that the rwd diagram in the miata out the engine way too far up front. personally, I really don't think it matters how it's shown lol
@LegendInThaMakin
@LegendInThaMakin 8 жыл бұрын
Brandon sever oh okay, thanks for the KNOWLEDGE.
@LegendInThaMakin
@LegendInThaMakin 8 жыл бұрын
A Karim Siddiqui​ A Karim Siddiqui​ What audi is rwd?? Never ever heard of a rwd audi.
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 7 жыл бұрын
This guy makes Motor Trend watchable
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