AWD vs RWD vs FWD - Which is the Best for Touge?

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That Sim Racing Bloke

That Sim Racing Bloke

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@lon3lyRacer
@lon3lyRacer 3 жыл бұрын
"High power turbo and all wheel drive, a car isn't complete without them" -Kyoichi Sudo
@sooryan_1018
@sooryan_1018 3 жыл бұрын
And yes, don't forget the infamous... *𝙈 𝙄 𝙎 𝙁 𝘼 𝙄 𝙍 𝙄 𝙉 𝙂 𝙐 𝙎 𝙃 𝙔 𝙎 𝙏 𝙀 𝙈*
@thebigboybossy4232
@thebigboybossy4232 3 жыл бұрын
Kyoichi based
@sooryan_1018
@sooryan_1018 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebigboybossy4232 gigachad
@caralho5237
@caralho5237 3 жыл бұрын
Add a v12 on the list and you've got a forza horizon car tuned by an 8 year old
@wann_skyzz..
@wann_skyzz.. 3 жыл бұрын
bruh
@Dominik189
@Dominik189 3 жыл бұрын
Yes technically AWD is best on Touge in theory. The thing is that it all really depends on the Touge you're driving.
@stephgunther3879
@stephgunther3879 3 жыл бұрын
and the driver
@cmbaileytstc
@cmbaileytstc 3 жыл бұрын
On dry pavement?
@Dominik189
@Dominik189 3 жыл бұрын
@@cmbaileytstc yes, even on dry pavement. A super technical Touge with very short straights and very few longer open corners and a lot of hairpins and S bends will always favor a RWD. One with more longer corners and few hairpins favours AWD. One that's fairly flap with not too much elevation change and mostly S bends with few hairpins and not that many longer corners favours FWD.
@jordanrobshaw1406
@jordanrobshaw1406 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dominik189 yes you are right
@Dominik189
@Dominik189 3 жыл бұрын
@Cringe Department sort of, slightly more to it but yeah.
@CrowJam
@CrowJam 3 жыл бұрын
I was always the fastest with FWD when playing on a joystick, since you gotta be so aggressive at the turn in, just set the rear bias quite high to help with understeer
@NikoKyunKyun
@NikoKyunKyun 3 жыл бұрын
and everyone would say you're using driver assist on max when you tell you're using controller 😂
@CH1K3N99
@CH1K3N99 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikoKyunKyun indeed!
@xyihhz4262
@xyihhz4262 2 жыл бұрын
@@NikoKyunKyun hmmm
@braxaculee
@braxaculee 4 ай бұрын
Me too. On forza 6 I would only race the civic if I could because everything else was near impossible to control without a wheel.
@Alicia-kd6vv
@Alicia-kd6vv 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in FWD, it can be super fun, also good for low grip roads or dirt.
@NikoKyunKyun
@NikoKyunKyun 3 жыл бұрын
not much people say FWD is fun, you're rare
@CH1K3N99
@CH1K3N99 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikoKyunKyun not many people are individuals, but followers!
@kotarojujo2737
@kotarojujo2737 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikoKyunKyun depends on what car. Any hot hatches FWD should be more fun than any base model RWD mercedes saloon
@MiguelMedV
@MiguelMedV 3 жыл бұрын
@@kotarojujo2737 Well that's true XD...
@timbuktu4235
@timbuktu4235 3 жыл бұрын
Fwd is so easy to drive hard, finding balance on loose surface is much more safe than in rwd or awd.
@munmunyee
@munmunyee Жыл бұрын
FWD is surprisingly good on downhill-focused, technical tracks. Happo out and Tsukuba both come to mind.
@Phoenix-sk8yy
@Phoenix-sk8yy 3 жыл бұрын
AWD with 85% of the power being sent to the rear and 15% to the front is the life
@JosesitoSaldivia
@JosesitoSaldivia 3 жыл бұрын
50:50 tho, is just fun
@producer.james1
@producer.james1 3 жыл бұрын
I find 20/80 is good for me. Depends on driver sometimes
@h5skb4ru41
@h5skb4ru41 3 жыл бұрын
35/65 for me, the best balance in a power oriented build for cornering
@elda7153
@elda7153 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosesitoSaldivia 50/50 is great. My irl GC8 is 50/50, and is an absolute blast to drive. And fun when you stop on some dirt, lock the steering right, rev up and clutch dump in 1st ;)
@tatacraft791
@tatacraft791 3 жыл бұрын
70-75% rear is better
@ichiroudesu_.
@ichiroudesu_. 3 жыл бұрын
"Drifting in a traditional sense is impossible in a FWD car" Shingo disagreed with that.
@i.akbaranshari5850
@i.akbaranshari5850 3 жыл бұрын
After accidentally drifted my parent's car in a wet condition, I'm still wondering how tf did he drift in such dry condition, especialy in those tight corners
@ichiroudesu_.
@ichiroudesu_. 3 жыл бұрын
​@@i.akbaranshari5850 Rip that ebrake, point in the direction you wanna go and floor it! I mean you saw how he did it lol. It also depends on if your FWD vehicle even can do a burnout on dry pavement. an LSD and good torque will make it easier.
@mr.fingerwithasmileyface3584
@mr.fingerwithasmileyface3584 3 жыл бұрын
@@i.akbaranshari5850 I'm not a car expert but I can assume that the light weight of civics and the tourqe of vtec really depends
@TheXtremeSS
@TheXtremeSS 3 жыл бұрын
@@i.akbaranshari5850 It's not like all FF cars just understeer. Old french hothatches tend to lift off oversteer very easily, to the point where you simply let the rear slide a bit on corner entrance and then step on the gas sooner. No need for ebrake. At the same time with lift off, you can just control the rear slip with the throttle mid corner. Even on the dry.
@vilonis2638
@vilonis2638 3 жыл бұрын
Tomoyuki too
@venominonbg1740
@venominonbg1740 3 жыл бұрын
I've always found the differences between drivetrains intriguing. Personally I prefer RWD cars the most as they are silly fun and quirky to drive. My experience is that RWD often performs better while cornering (either that or I am a natural talent) and quick directional changes, while AWD has unbeatable acceleration and exit speed. I've driven FWDs the least, but I've noticed they're super easy to push to the limit and often tend to be lighter than cars in the same power range. Curious what anyone else can add to the topic.
@christopherjohnston6343
@christopherjohnston6343 3 жыл бұрын
Front wheel drives are largely set up for economy and comfort - whereas contemporary RWD are usually performance cars. If FWD is set up properly The difference in lateral grip is minimal - it's just that you're usually less able to use throttle while turning.
@darkinators
@darkinators 3 жыл бұрын
"or I am a natural talent" no, no you're not
@jamppa4693
@jamppa4693 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkinators you never know ;)
@recarsion
@recarsion 3 жыл бұрын
FWD can be insanely fun imo. The Peugeot 306 Maxi is one of my favorite cars on Dirt Rally.
@jordanrobshaw1406
@jordanrobshaw1406 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjohnston6343 that makes you slower lol
@kisbalintkirill4443
@kisbalintkirill4443 3 жыл бұрын
From history, the Group B Lancia 037 was faster (which was RWD) than the Audi Quattro in tarmac rally stages due to its lightweight chassis and better weight distribution and because losing traction in tarmac wasn't really an issue. Everywhere else on loose surfaces the Quattro was faster.
@darkrage1138
@darkrage1138 3 жыл бұрын
That was old AWD, more modern AWD have significantly better systems. I'm a fan of RWD myself, but a well tuned AWD is almost always an advantage. The logical argument basically being that you can always tune an AWD to be more similar to a RWD, but you can't ever get a RWD to have that front tire pull.
@kisbalintkirill4443
@kisbalintkirill4443 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkrage1138 Yeah i know that. What i wanted to say is that its more car dependant. If a FWD is more balanced and overall lighter then it should be faster than an older and heavier AWD. But yeah AWD can be the fastest overall. There's a reason why every rallycar is AWD for 30 years.
@emmanuelperrina6105
@emmanuelperrina6105 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkrage1138 but the car will be heavier
@darkrage1138
@darkrage1138 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelperrina6105 Yea of course it will, but that majority of the time the advantage of AWD will beat out the disadvantages of some weight gain.
@kisbalintkirill4443
@kisbalintkirill4443 3 жыл бұрын
@YMC-DAB420 On some events yeah, but they didn't have to cheat on tarmac stages.
@christopher_s_25
@christopher_s_25 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the Impreza, AWD with a longitudinal boxer engine, which allows the car to behave more like a RWD (yes it can drift) and have better front-to-rear weight distribution.
@garrettmcguire6864
@garrettmcguire6864 3 жыл бұрын
What year Impreza specifically, because I'm interested.
@christopher_s_25
@christopher_s_25 3 жыл бұрын
@@garrettmcguire6864 any year really, every AWD (yes there are some older FWD ones, but not so common) impreza has a longitudinal boxer engine. The only difference is between GC (92-00) and the rest (GD, etc. 01-present). The GC is lightweight (~1200Kg) and flexible, while the newer ones are heavier (~1350-1400Kg), wider and stiffer, with improved suspension.
@kemurikusari9629
@kemurikusari9629 3 жыл бұрын
@@garrettmcguire6864 every subi with a manual dccd has more torque to the rear tgen to the front (i got a 1998 sti type r v4 and it has 35:65 distrobution while a regular sti is 50:50 and yeah the rear wants to step out alot)
@mooker93
@mooker93 3 жыл бұрын
Fwd all day. You can mitigate most all the negative aspects with suspension mods and alignment. Use its properties to get a better turn and control.
@StuTubed
@StuTubed 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, stiffer rear suspension and an LSD up front help with a lot of the drawbacks of FWD cars. They're just not set up that way on most cars because they're an unnecessary expense for a mass-market production car.
@gameonyolo1
@gameonyolo1 3 жыл бұрын
1. Inherently less traction. So rain, snow, bad surface. 2. The car can't yaw under power, that can be fixed tho in many ways.
@gameonyolo1
@gameonyolo1 3 жыл бұрын
1. Inherently less traction. So rain, snow, bad surface. 2. The car can't yaw under power, that can be fixed tho in many ways.
@juliuspaolocabarles9941
@juliuspaolocabarles9941 3 жыл бұрын
Donut???
@Tromsci
@Tromsci 2 жыл бұрын
I drive an FF with a torque vectoring diff and I’m pull through and exit corners faster than the AWD cars I’ve raced 😄
@SRK_223
@SRK_223 3 жыл бұрын
4:23 That is one fantastic example mate, I always do that whenever I'm in a supermarket 😂💙
@RyuKyu316
@RyuKyu316 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. Glad to see you used the cars I sent to you for this vid.
@ymb9shinzou743
@ymb9shinzou743 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Is your car setup by default for touge, and would you have any tuning setups or suggestions for the lower power AE86 and tuned versions? I really wanna practice getting good at this but the tuning of the car is incredibly intimidating to a neophyte.
@pavelmatusu4457
@pavelmatusu4457 7 ай бұрын
i found out that he copied this 7 years old video almost word for word and didnt even mention it :(, when I randomly watched it it thought I had deja vu. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWXLp2puq9l1rq8&ab_channel=MotorTrendChannel
@RyuKyu316
@RyuKyu316 7 ай бұрын
@@pavelmatusu4457 wtf I didn't know tbh. I just provided replays cars and stuff.🤣🤣
@pavelmatusu4457
@pavelmatusu4457 7 ай бұрын
@@RyuKyu316 Well I dont blame you for anything. Tbh I just wanted to share this with someone becouse I have not seen anybody talking about it, and it seemed really scummy to me. And its no big deal, TSRB was much smaller 2y ago and theese guys he copied from have like 14 times more subs even now.
@RyuKyu316
@RyuKyu316 7 ай бұрын
@pavelmatusu4457 yeah no prob man I too now see the deja vu and not daijobu🤣
@johnxina2140
@johnxina2140 3 жыл бұрын
It totally depends on the touge and the cars, I'm fastest down most roads in an aw11 mr2, even though something like an evo5 is technically way faster
@georgeb5262
@georgeb5262 3 жыл бұрын
Also driving style.
@johnxina2140
@johnxina2140 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgeb5262 Yee, very true
@istachi
@istachi 3 жыл бұрын
Just download a 900hp mod with a shit ton of grip and it'll break records
@johnxina2140
@johnxina2140 3 жыл бұрын
@@istachi I've put slick tires on a couple of cars and have had them go mental fast, I put a spoon b18b in an Nd Miata with the cup car slicks on it, and it's one of the most fun and fast things I've driven in ac
@beautifulbeaner
@beautifulbeaner 3 жыл бұрын
@@istachi probably because it has arcade physics so it’s not realistic
@Cr4z3d
@Cr4z3d 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the difference between 4WD and AWD, that had never been fully clear to me.
@rjs.autoclub
@rjs.autoclub 3 жыл бұрын
All wheels all the time 😈
@Damagic1
@Damagic1 Жыл бұрын
I forgot which is which but one all the tires spin even if one was in the air. And the other will put less power to the tired as they lose traction.
@Cr4z3d
@Cr4z3d Жыл бұрын
@@Damagic1 #1 is AWD and #2 is 4WD
@ericskullbunny6031
@ericskullbunny6031 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see all at the same time with their fastest runs. Next to each other or all ghosts from above in one view. To really see the diffrence
@n3ttx580
@n3ttx580 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Civic IRL (not type R, but still) and I absolutely love how that thing handles. For the 2 and something years I own it, i went into understeer only a few times, and always succesfully recovered, thanks to driving it it AC. FF IMO is the superior drivetrain, if you know how to corner properly and how to manage tire wear. It's easy to have front tires at 180°C 3 minutes into Usui pass. Also recently, I've began to play with AWD cars (22B Impreza), and I love how easy drifting is with them. If you mess something up, just turn the other way and press gas. Maintaining drift is also very nice and natural for me. That cannot be said for RWD cars tho, honestly I have no idea how can anyone drive them aggressively. They oversteer way too much and controlling anything more than driving in a straight line is next to impossible. For togues (subjectively), AWD is the most fun. You can drift and control it easily, but also go grippy as hell and have nice times. FWD is when you want to have fun around corners at high speeds and feel the lateral G's.
@youraveragegamer8832
@youraveragegamer8832 Жыл бұрын
Rwd takes a lot of practice and extremely sensitive throttle control. If you start to skid you either let off the gas or drift or scandi flick. Basically when your car is pointed in the direction you want to go but you have a few seconds before the yiu reach the desired exit point, you start pressing the throttle. The amount of throttle depends on your speed and angle and stuff, and you will spin out a lot while practicing. A lot.
@rallymana4873
@rallymana4873 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best drivetrain is up to the driver’s preferences In my case, It would either be awd or rwd, just because I don’t like how fwd cars handle
@N3rdburgring
@N3rdburgring 2 жыл бұрын
On a sim setup I prefer fwd. Especially if it’s a course I know fairly well. The ability to manipulate off throttle/braking oversteer as well as the ability to correct somewhat reliably make it my favorite for this kind of stuff
@mohe81
@mohe81 Жыл бұрын
The visualization with the tires as pi diagram is the best one I have ever seen for that issue. I will always explain it that way from now on.
@hydro5168
@hydro5168 2 жыл бұрын
I was always most comfortable in an NSX, when my PC still worked I had an NSX-R NA2 and that one from Initial D and I always felt they were just absolute perfection to drive
@yeehongho9912
@yeehongho9912 3 жыл бұрын
4wd + perfect tuning to behave like rwd. Should be fun with this setting.
@Joe-xr2xl
@Joe-xr2xl 3 жыл бұрын
Forza had a great graphic to show tire grip on a car. It was a circle for each tire and a dot showing the amount of work the tire does. If the dot goes outside then the cars tires loose grip.
@kuriankeralaIndia
@kuriankeralaIndia 3 жыл бұрын
Assetto corsa is better
@anthonyquattro584
@anthonyquattro584 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that was a great graphic to show the tires peak grip
@RhodokTribesman
@RhodokTribesman 2 жыл бұрын
Out of the simcade games, Gran Turismo 4 simulates understeer and weight transfer pretty damn well
@growingup4487
@growingup4487 Жыл бұрын
true but in forza you don't lose grip braking and steering at the same time unlike real life
@sav7123
@sav7123 Жыл бұрын
@@growingup4487what ? Yes you do I’ve lost the rear under braking so many times at the final corner of yas marina
@randomhondaeg6sirii486
@randomhondaeg6sirii486 3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed and informative video
@shmoop357
@shmoop357 3 жыл бұрын
honestly i love driving every single one of them for their own reasons
@naufalfaiz322
@naufalfaiz322 3 жыл бұрын
i love how takumi is driving the 86
@CH1K3N99
@CH1K3N99 3 жыл бұрын
Where's MRD & RRD? And your FWD first section is mostly about differentials, but I think it's really well explained,
@TSRB
@TSRB 3 жыл бұрын
I assume you mean mid rear and rear rear. Those were covered in the video and are called FMR and RMR
@CH1K3N99
@CH1K3N99 3 жыл бұрын
@@TSRB nice, i'll have to check it out!
@sparkster_6087
@sparkster_6087 8 ай бұрын
@@TSRB yeah but you missed the advantages of them... they also drive completely different to a fr car
@westcoastrenegade8594
@westcoastrenegade8594 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 02 Impreza RS (full engine rebuild and modification) there's nothing that can beat the cornering and bottom end torque on that thing.
@tougetime8485
@tougetime8485 2 жыл бұрын
Oh really😏 let's run it
@driftbroz8744
@driftbroz8744 3 жыл бұрын
Nice bro very comprehensive. Glad you touched on midships and power splits in AWD
@geraldperez7754
@geraldperez7754 3 жыл бұрын
I have driven the three drivetrains a lot in my game. It's a Midnight Racing: Tokyo, a game from Roblox that has one of the most realistic vehicle physics in the platform. I mainly drive my fav Mazda RX7-FD3S which is my RWD and it's the car I got my personal best laptimes in our togue. I drive a Honda Civic EK9 Type-R as well for my FWD. And for my AWD I drive a Nissan GT-R Skyline R32. I personally prefer RWD because they're prettymuch the jack of all trades in the three when it comes to time attack. And honestly, even all the way in all scenarios like drifting, burnouts and just having fun. But regards to my togue usage with RWD Their weight is within the middleground of FWD and AWD. Usually FWDs are way lighter than RWD and AWDs are kinda heavier. I also think that RWD cars have more skill cieling than FWD and AWD. Mainly because of natural oversteer which can be utilized skillfully. I'm talking about slip angle. Drifting is another story and in another category of driving as well since it usually is best performed as an art to appeal even in pro Formula Drift torunaments. But other than that, RWD seems to be the only one that can use slip angle where you ride just within the limit of traction, the sweet spot that helps in fast cornering. Bloke showed this in one of his "Can Drift be faster" vid as well as his two Slip angle vids. Overall I think that Slip Angle makes the biggest difference within the three that makes me prefer RWD more.
@metromedia1
@metromedia1 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure slip angle can be achieved with any drive train
@inderet4118
@inderet4118 3 жыл бұрын
@@metromedia1 yes, slip angle refers to the tires being right on top of their limit. You can get slip angle on your front tires in a RWD car en vice versa
@gameonyolo1
@gameonyolo1 3 жыл бұрын
Awd has the highest skill ceiling. You have to learn 1. How the awd system reacts, exactly. 2. Power slide entries.
@kamanexrace2667
@kamanexrace2667 2 жыл бұрын
"it isnt the car thats monstrous, its the driver"
@lunar3278
@lunar3278 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on grip AWD can go through corners without losing much speed at all but most of the time there’s not enough grip so overpowered AWD cars usually lose speed in turns, while RWD can gain speed and momentum as it takes the turn, and rarely lose speed in corners. FWD is best for roll racing due to the least amount of drivetrain loss. FWD can arguably be better than RWD at certain power levels due to very little loss of grip and even better momentum, but obviously is the worst off the line. Overall AWD is best with tuning because it can behave like RWD where it matters (in the corners) and still pull the car forward with the unbeatable grip of AWD.
@naoxdbsp1660
@naoxdbsp1660 2 жыл бұрын
Umm, whole reason why there is RWD is so when the car accelerates the weight shifts to the rear so RWD maintains grip while FWD loses grip when accelerating.
@ScreamoCat
@ScreamoCat 2 жыл бұрын
Someone who's driven all and irl, not in assetto on a wheel, most of the touge cars (that do well) are fwd and rarely awd but they're out there, on a touge though, that Honda fit or mazda 3 hatch is going to leave your 350z behind, simply because they're kids that go out to these roads to run them every night, also- 2500lbs vs 3500 lbs makes a big difference in handling/braking/and acceleration
@GRMLN5221
@GRMLN5221 2 жыл бұрын
If you use throttle lift off and using your brakes to transfer weight and try to kick out your back end you can sort of slide a fwd car and that might help you not under steer which might happen when stepping on it. You just kinda have to learn from shingo and use that slide to your advantage
@Biriadan
@Biriadan 2 жыл бұрын
Or you can just left foot brake. Throttle and brakes reduce the braking force on the front wheel but not the back, allowing brake bias to be shifted to the back on demand and allowing very controllable oversteer.
@shiroimitsune7314
@shiroimitsune7314 3 жыл бұрын
I'm now enlightened how to handle AWD better. Thanks very much
@izzyteaurewetipoparai
@izzyteaurewetipoparai 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say... This man's thumbnail's attracted my eyed and make me click so fast
@ethanl524
@ethanl524 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s just cause I drive fwd in real life, but I’ve always found fwd the easiest to visualize weight transfer and easiest to learn
@kxrxkt6741
@kxrxkt6741 3 жыл бұрын
One missing thing is the best lap times of drivers preferring each drivetrain
@helix3304
@helix3304 Ай бұрын
@1:46 Money shifting: Am I a joke to you?!
@lr44x13
@lr44x13 3 жыл бұрын
Thing with awd is that its good in all conditions. Put a rwd drag car vs awd rally car on slightly wet surface and look how lower hp rally car wins in a dragrace. In perfect conditions tho rwd drag car would perform way way better.
@undvnd_unsr3x
@undvnd_unsr3x 3 жыл бұрын
AWD is my favorite because in the video it has the G T 2 0 0 0 YELLOW MITSUBISHI EVO 5 GSR
@Echo_3-1_141
@Echo_3-1_141 3 жыл бұрын
In a technical course, an underpowered car can be faster if you can be aggressive on the accelerator. But once you get the Eight-Six at the right angle, you can step on the gas as you like. -Takahashi Ryosuke
@TheXtremeSS
@TheXtremeSS 3 жыл бұрын
Once you get anything at the right angle, you can step on anything you like, be it FR, FF or 4WD and as much as you like even if that's not good since you'll get wheelspin.
@Echo_3-1_141
@Echo_3-1_141 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheXtremeSS Yes but takumi drives it like a beast but not depends on performance for him
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 2 жыл бұрын
Underpowered cars are usually lighter due to a smaller engine. Light weight makes cornering faster. Depending on the course, there could be areas where more power is detrimental. Thats actually the plot of MF Ghost, by the guy who did Initial D.
@staskaras6773
@staskaras6773 2 жыл бұрын
Well delivered information, Basic but yet important for becoming a better driver
@nathanglynn7443
@nathanglynn7443 3 жыл бұрын
When I first got into cars and I mean really got into them (I dabbled as a kid but I didn't know much besides the looks of different cars) Tokyo drift was out in the cinema. FF layouts were talked down like crazy. You couldn't be a car guy unless your car was manual and rwd. Nowadays the scene has changed to accept all cars no matter how slow or fast, no matter what brand... This is a time I live for as all cars have different strengths and weaknesses. I've had over 45 cars (I'm 28) and I've driven all sorts of cars. I've had skylines and fairlady z's, golf's, old s class mercs, commodores and falcons and civics to boot. My favourite kind of car to drive so far is FF layout hatches. I currently drive an 02 Levin five speed and a 04 echo sportivo (vitz rs, Yaris t sport) five speed and while not the fastest out there, they're a whole lot of fun on mountain and forest roads :)
@TheLPN05Fan
@TheLPN05Fan 2 жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon this channel via playing Dirt Rally 2.0, but still learn things I already knew again. Personal Expierience is that RWD heavily depends on the traction you have. Got Aero like GT3 or more and you good to go, got it twisty, bumpy or P/W of over 1/3 of you go. I am a controller pleb, so yeah. FWD heavily depends on slow and sharp turns, also heavy usage of the Handbrake. Tracks like Silverstone would be death. AWD is very dependent on the Differenzial Setup and Power Distribution between axles. I think 22.5/78.5 F/R is the sweet spot, though up to 35/65 AWD is still superior to RWD and down to 15/85 is still viable for very sharp and switchy but not Hairpin tracks. After that unless you do Dragracing, and even then more than 50% Power on Front is iddiocy.
@chrisreardon7185
@chrisreardon7185 3 жыл бұрын
From my experience Rwd is fun and makes for good fun drifty drifty Fwd is easy to control, although lacklustre in a continued turn Awd is the best of both, stupid easy to control but you can still drift it and almost never lift off the throttle unless shifting can you guess which i like the most?
@jitterrypokery1526
@jitterrypokery1526 3 жыл бұрын
Awd
@198dehydrated5
@198dehydrated5 3 жыл бұрын
i own a fwd suv, its a 4 cylinder and produces 145 bhp, my dad modified the exhaust, im gonna own it as soon as i get a license
@Dominik189
@Dominik189 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shyte! I found two FWD I actually enjoy and can drive fast! And they're an EK9 Civic and a DC5 Integra... I've never in my life been able to drive FWD at all. Even in AC, I have pretty much everything a try before except these two, finally forced to try these two and by god, THEY'RE ACTUALLY FUN! Legit posted my fastest time yet on EK Tsukuba with a DC5, a 5:09.5. prior to that my fastest time was a 5:15.7 with a tuned FC.
@TheXtremeSS
@TheXtremeSS 3 жыл бұрын
Give the 500 Abarth step 1 a try. More than enough lift off oversteer to put it sideways and you can use that to actually balance the car. It's probably way slower than those cars though. :P
@Dominik189
@Dominik189 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheXtremeSS you mean the OG Abarth 500, or the new one?
@TheXtremeSS
@TheXtremeSS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dominik189 new one. The old one is RR.
@Dominik189
@Dominik189 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheXtremeSS hmmm, I might give it a chance. Might...
@Ciberpotato
@Ciberpotato 2 жыл бұрын
Gran turismo fans when they see a yellow evo 😳
@9xin
@9xin 2 жыл бұрын
fucking incredible background song bruv. tapped in
@untamablewolf
@untamablewolf 9 ай бұрын
do you know what the song is??
@thatoneperson7640
@thatoneperson7640 3 жыл бұрын
According to me skill and exp is important..
@thelemansexperience2863
@thelemansexperience2863 3 жыл бұрын
Wise words
@solid_mario3496
@solid_mario3496 2 жыл бұрын
I heard DNB in the intro, Instantly subbed. I love racing and blasting DNB... Also EuroBeat ;)
@JustPlaneHistory
@JustPlaneHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid!
@TheA90Supra
@TheA90Supra 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the no drifting. I almost have it mastered but I just need to work on my entry.
@vsapro6069
@vsapro6069 3 жыл бұрын
What evo are you using. Please send a mod link if possible thanks
@karlo134652
@karlo134652 3 жыл бұрын
The winner is the guy who lights a cigarette in the middle of drift then says " aight time to go vrooom." .
@seths4840
@seths4840 3 жыл бұрын
All that you said about the FF made sense, and heck, was really informative, thanks! One thing, my question is, if you’re up against a good opponent and are struggling to keep up driving faster is implied, correct? Like you said about over using the front tires, how can you overcome this disadvantage? Is there a way to speed up and drive faster without over using the fronts?
@christopherjohnston6343
@christopherjohnston6343 3 жыл бұрын
Not really? Especially if you're trying to drive beyond your abilities you're more like to start stressing the tyres further if your inputs and braking get sloppy. Better tyres may help. Physically larger rubber can soak more heat and a different compound may resist overheating for longer.
@seths4840
@seths4840 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds about accurate, thank you!
@A_Chocolate_Cookie
@A_Chocolate_Cookie 3 жыл бұрын
Adjust suspension setup and manage weight transfer (your driving style) to better distribute the load on each tire
@seths4840
@seths4840 3 жыл бұрын
The weight is going to go somewhere though, managing weight seems like a lot to keep up with along with steering, three pedals, and a shifter. Got a solution?
@jplslo8213
@jplslo8213 3 жыл бұрын
My dad always says, slow is smooth, smooth is fast
@derbyjr
@derbyjr 3 жыл бұрын
While I do prefer RWD, I will concede both AWD and FWD do have their benefits. FWD is good for driving, but as both an amateur driver and mechanic, in some configurations it’s a pain to work on. Especially with one such FWD V6 engine car. In looking at you Ford/Mazda
@Wonginism
@Wonginism 2 жыл бұрын
The progression for a Top level Rally driver is FWD to AWD And that's the advice they will give. You can't make use of an AWD if you can't pull in $50,000+ USD a year in sponsorships so stick to 2WD and if you are serious about becoming a world class racer get a FWD.
@oandgw
@oandgw Жыл бұрын
I feel like RWD has the most cornering potential, given this is the only drivetrain config that doesn't require as much weight being transferred to the front for the front tyres to grip during corner entry. This pays dividends during quick directional changes such as slalom-type corners.
@KrisjanBalanMusic
@KrisjanBalanMusic 2 жыл бұрын
This is Kyouichi Sudo Approved Channel. 👍
@kevinuploadingwhatever
@kevinuploadingwhatever Жыл бұрын
AWD is always better, but a better driver can tip the balance towards FWD or RWD
@ektouge8700
@ektouge8700 3 жыл бұрын
All of the powertrains a really good with a good driver any powertrain can be superior against another. Its up to the driver to rise up against the talent of driver and machine.
@aperson8627
@aperson8627 3 жыл бұрын
Also I sometimes don't even brake in FWD, I just hold the accelerator and turn button
@johnxina2140
@johnxina2140 3 жыл бұрын
Question, how do you have your interior camera set up? I can never get ac to look how I want it, and your cameras are pretty much perfect, just wondering what settings you have and such
@codyc5787
@codyc5787 3 жыл бұрын
What helped me most was NeckFX
@Sorcerer_Lynx
@Sorcerer_Lynx 5 ай бұрын
RWD with the engine in the back, thats the best by far for me because it feel alive. But yeah, the best is AWD with engine in the back and might i add electric. Like the RXE (Rallye Cross Electric) cars. They are insane
@SirRevster
@SirRevster 3 жыл бұрын
8 wheel drive for the win!!!
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
What about rear engine RWD like a 911? Assume it's not one of the widowmaker ones with the wonky suspension.
@ShiroiShinjuDC5
@ShiroiShinjuDC5 2 жыл бұрын
Also depends is technique like with fwd if you’re a god at left foot braking that’s op or with rwd if you can slip steer extremely proficiently and reliably. Or just straight up track knowledge can completely construe results. It’s way too circumstantial to know for sure sadly.
@pashagesha
@pashagesha 3 жыл бұрын
I bet awd the best, it has the best acceleration, advantages of RWD and easier to control like fwd
@domino-86
@domino-86 3 жыл бұрын
Understeer lol
@kamidesu6414
@kamidesu6414 2 жыл бұрын
Just noticed, the hachiroku has takumi instead of the normal driver lol
@tomasalves7831
@tomasalves7831 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find that EK9 mod? Been searching but can't find it anywhere, is it private? Thanks in advance, keep up the good work ✌🏻
@Germanica1871
@Germanica1871 Жыл бұрын
The best power drive for a touge is in my opinion ATTESA-ETS. Distributing power accordingly is far more valuable and effective than other forms of drive. Evewn an ordinary 4x4 doesn't cut it. If we however ignore the specialization of something like ATTESA is, 4x4 is the best...
@hapijokesbysebastian5525
@hapijokesbysebastian5525 24 күн бұрын
I got a question if it's manual how did they put manual in the cockpit but the engine position is facing both tyres?
@haux3612
@haux3612 Жыл бұрын
i have the civic ek9 but the steering lock is really strange, the steering lock doesnt match my actual wheel i only have it with a few cars
@robertmcgraw5180
@robertmcgraw5180 3 жыл бұрын
You should make a car pack with all of the cars that are found in your videos.
@carterniu3136
@carterniu3136 3 жыл бұрын
All these videos do is empower me with my 06 civic😂
@YellowEvoV110
@YellowEvoV110 3 жыл бұрын
Why is the evo v always yellow
@dvnecore
@dvnecore 8 күн бұрын
I prefer AWD as you can really keep on the throttle and are able to correct most mistakes relatively easily
@danielthecarguy4779
@danielthecarguy4779 3 жыл бұрын
He'll love it it's the perfect arcade drifting game
@demijne9
@demijne9 2 жыл бұрын
i allways pick the good old rwd cuz i never learned to drive the other ones fast
@Miclt131
@Miclt131 Жыл бұрын
My wrx feels awesome out of corners if you're in boost 😍
@souvikdeb5215
@souvikdeb5215 7 ай бұрын
What happens if we use handbrakes for drift instead if trial break and full acceleration and breaks for the toughest corner then we can get drift righ on a FWD?
@carguynewb7856
@carguynewb7856 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I like using the mrs btw I got assetto corsa this week
@callumpearce9242
@callumpearce9242 Ай бұрын
Now I'm interested to make a rear engine, fwd car for Togue.... Time to fire up Automation.
@HEXAN-SC
@HEXAN-SC 3 жыл бұрын
I have two cars a 06 outback and 00 Miata SE and the outback can be either awd or FWD
@davidmadison5582
@davidmadison5582 2 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I like them all? However the evo 6 is definitely my favorite car
@iDatedMyPizza
@iDatedMyPizza 3 жыл бұрын
Could you tell us what changes you make to the default AE86 to make it slide like that? I'd love to know.
@TSRB
@TSRB 3 жыл бұрын
None
@ymb9shinzou743
@ymb9shinzou743 3 жыл бұрын
Have you changed the setup for AE86s to be more suitable for touge and if so could you share them? Thanks!
@TSRB
@TSRB 3 жыл бұрын
I just used the default tunes
@ymb9shinzou743
@ymb9shinzou743 3 жыл бұрын
@@TSRB Oh nice! Just want to be sure I'm putting myself in the best position to learn, and to have no excuse other than "I suck" Best way for me to keep up those reps.
@beautifulbeaner
@beautifulbeaner 3 жыл бұрын
@@ymb9shinzou743 stock tune on the “tuned AE86” is the best imo, incredibly quick and agile
@beautifulbeaner
@beautifulbeaner 3 жыл бұрын
@@SSmallwood no need, the most I do is change liters of petrol to 5, everything else is fine
@bunta1819
@bunta1819 3 жыл бұрын
From where do you get your yellow cars ?
@CobraOneTwelve
@CobraOneTwelve 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I could get the Evo used in this video?
@kendharleyo.adanza1262
@kendharleyo.adanza1262 Жыл бұрын
Personally prefer AWD over the two, since it has even distributed power so it means, it isn't pulled nor pushed
@Kiry-eu9lm
@Kiry-eu9lm 3 жыл бұрын
Now fun fact - my favourite trio is 1. Nissan Skyline GT-R BNR34 V-Spec II Nur 2. Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex AE86 3. Honda Integra Type R DC2 My favourite trio is all types lol
@RR2009ARCHIVE
@RR2009ARCHIVE 2 жыл бұрын
background song is Elysian Fields by Artemis
@vally6853
@vally6853 2 жыл бұрын
I like rwd and awd…fwd feels weird especially when the car tries to steer for you.
@iglooo
@iglooo 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro! Just wondering how you got the takumi driver? Please help me out, ive been looking for it for a while
@stungbybriann
@stungbybriann 2 жыл бұрын
I try to download the mod but it won't let me the website is automatically blocked
@chilledout_5486
@chilledout_5486 2 жыл бұрын
Personal preference: RWD and AWD are just much more fun in general. Tried a FWD found it pretty boring, not that many techniques for it cuz the damn thing is glued to the road most of the time.
@luckyiscrazy9560
@luckyiscrazy9560 Жыл бұрын
You know awd is cool. But I like having the ability to slide whenever I’m feeling silly
@matufujiwara7493
@matufujiwara7493 3 жыл бұрын
i would say that fwd performs better in loose surface while rwd is better on hard surface. awd is the universal tool for both areas.
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