G5 Howitzer | The South African towed artillery legend

[@WeaponDetective]

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[@imerastrojerodiesel9393]

Cuando puedas dedícate un capítulo al obus cañón CITER 155 mm de Argentina..es excelente..saludos

[@gypsycruiser]

How can you admire something which is purely designed to kill ..

[@ilikeit2ful]

Very proud to have been part of the SADF when they were a force to be reckoned with decades ago. In many ways South Africa rewrite the weapons arena during the 1975-1990's with extraordinary developments!!

[@downunderrob]

A Bloody Fine Artillery piece there. Respect from Australia. 🇭🇲

[@Sajuuk]

Thanks 😉

[@montys420-]

Australia tested G5s, and G6 captured from the Gulf War

[@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz]

Crikey!

[@mckutzy]

One of Dr. Bull's finest legacies... and the father of modern artillery ... Most notably this piece and erfb-bb projectiles...

[@maevethefox5912]

Guy had such a fascinating career

[@mark_dauz]

Yup,but he died,got shot by mossad agent

[@Buildinc1]

Great book if you can get a copy. He went on to work for Iraq and Mossad took him out.

[@Loneranger670]

By 1987, South Africa decisively defeated Angolan and Cuban forces, tilting the conflict in favor of UNITA rebels. Concurrently, South Africa's gradual disengagement from its conflict with SWAPO who operated from Angola, followed Russia's withdrawal of support for proxy wars due to its transformation into a Federation. With perceived threats diminishing, South African forces returned home, initiating the transition to black-led governance under the ANC. However, mismanagement ensued as the ANC disbanded the formidable South African army, dismissing its skilled white personnel, leading to equipment deterioration. Today, the South African army struggles, having failed to produce any notable weaponry for the market-a stark testament to the corrosive impact of corruption

[@mrblack888]

Gave something that worked to blacks. Now it no longer works. Same as it ever was.

[@frednel4326]

Spot on buddy 👌

[@hughdavies7150]

Corruption and democracy

[@Mark-te5uz]

@@hughdavies7150 It was expected and it happened..thats why Africa would be as it was a thousand years ago if it had not been colonized..

[@abongiledlova477]

Wasn't Russia involved in that war aswell?

[@troycohawkeye9289]

Im proud to have been a part of the leopard.144 battalion 14 field artillery Potchefstroom 1990

[@profpuffofficial2]

you served with my father i believe, or he might have been 78-80 Geoff Elske, was in the 14th artillery reg ,he was a Senior PT instructor and was stationed in Angola maybe thats the old 14th its the one with the skull over black and red with 2 crossed cannons?

[@francisvanderhoven9088]

i fist was 14 kilo into angola with the g5 as a sapper with the infantry and we where the perimeter defiance TB DURING MY 2 YEAR MANDATORY CALL UP. 1979 i then worked at LEW in pretoria where the g5 and g6 was manufactured the video was taken in that same factory i was a machine setter on the r5 production line at the time 1982.

[@profpuffofficial2]

@@francisvanderhoven9088 you remember who trained you in induction?

[@fredswanepoel2425]

Proudly designed and manufactured by the Boere!

[@davidallcock6316]

Built by denel and armscor.....I grew up in bonaero park...which was the housing estate attached to atlas aircraft..denel....many of the people involved were ex British military...french...Portuguese....

[@murambopj4677]

That’s not true. This was a US design concept from the 70s. The US commissioned this because of the growing communist threat. This was a covert mission. This is not the only weapon US commissioned

[@wayne975]

G6 made it even better.

[@johnlamb3101]

Hoor Hoor! PW great Minister of Defence.

[@erdiakarsu4945]

South African land weapon systems are so cool. Nice vid.

[@davidmok108]

I remember i first saw this weapon system during Malaysia independence day parade back when I was a kid! The cannon was huge! 🇲🇾

[@nephilimorder9622]

The G5 is an absolute legend and it is proud piece of South African History and hopefully our future. A Proud South African

[@vaclavcervinka65]

South Africa has no future. It is falling apart.

[@stesn1589]

The new history from south Afrika is russia and China, thsts why 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

[@frednel4326]

As a ex South African Deffence Force Ratel gunner myself from that era it was always exiting to see the G5 in action and wer realy effective and quick to deploy weapons with great range and accuracy 👍, and then came the G6 and that was on a whole new level 👌, this video brings back many memories thank you ✌

[@kingsman3087]

cool story bro

[@francoisdutoit6206]

Brings back memories, earth shook when that boy went off.

[@PoseidonDiver]

South Africa was way ahead of the field in mobile armor and mobile artillery during that era. Please do the G6 Rhino Self Propelled Howitzer! It was ground breaking!

[@WeaponDetective]

Here is our G6 video. We hope you will enjoy it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXWmkpeortx7Zpo

[@daveelliott2629]

I was a military police officer and we did a lot of boarder duty and my platoon spent a lot of time's guarding these beasts on the diffrent boarders and the G6's also another mother of a beast too ............. Hell I miss those day's where we kept our boarders secure and patrolled and defended them like our lives depended on it ......... And how proud we were too wear that uniform with honour and respect for it ..........

[@patrickporter6536]

Border

[@hughdavies7150]

The Good old days

[@richardhenry5015]

A pre produktion G5 can be seen at the Military Museum in Johannesburg

[@wernervdmerwe7302]

Current G5 reached 70km with vlap

[@AndreOosthuizen-yc6si]

👍

[@MichaelScheepers]

The G5 was not baptised during Ops Modular in 1987. It was baptised in Ops Alpha Centauri in 1986 by 4SAI's Quebec battery

[@WeaponDetective]

As we said in the video we could not find info. Could you send us or just post the details? Thanks

[@Shylockza]

AFAIC it was used in '84/'85, I was in during that time, will need to check and see if I can trace the info

[@habahan4257]

Thanks for this excellent video and member special premiere.

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

Super wonderful video about G5 Hawtizer artillery. From South Africa 🇿🇦. Video clearly explained all characteristics and its designed background of that battlefield king. Thank you 🙏 ( weapon detective 🕵️‍♂️) channel for sharing.

[@tristandaries1129]

As a South African, one reason I love our military is because of how simple designations are. “We made a variant of the R1? Idk call it the R2”

[@premierhoner614]

Makes me feel very proud to be a South African. The G6 is even better.... ❤😅

[@PLL1652]

I was recently listening to my father in law tell me how fun it was shooting these during the border war and thought it was strange to talk about how fun war is, then I realized they were 18-19 year old kids. Respect to the veterans.

[@garthroderick922]

I've seen both g6 and g5 irl in my country and they are a lot bigger than 1 would think up close

[@paulshaw3882]

My friend worked at the foundry making these, some very interesting stories!

[@detdet3871]

Stories from a foundry, like?

[@paulshaw3882]

@@detdet3871 like how a remedy was found for cracking barrels during trial tests and what the remedy was.

[@louisduplessis7110]

As a Bombardier this video makes me feel all fuzzy

[@LilMissMurder3409]

Skiet jy in groot sirkels of klein sirkels?

[@terrieterblans7027]

If you place an ANC dumbo to sell the product it does not matter how good you are you will fail.

[@mybru1]

And yet we're one of the largest artillery producers in the world. We're set to producr and sell over 3 billion rands worth of artillery ammunition this year alone. Your poor apartheid apologists mind probably couldn't fathom that idea

[@Deadround34]

This video brings back so many fond memories. My father used to work on these tanks when I was a little boy. During school holidays, he would take me to his workplace, and I vividly remember playing around and exploring all the different equipment. He patiently showed me how everything worked, and those moments have stayed with me ever since. Thank you for sharing this and bringing back such cherished memories. Compared with the USA M777 howitzer witch one is the best?

[@profpuffofficial2]

Anyone here from the 14th artillery regiment and may remember my pops? Geoff Elske was also a PT instructor

[@georgeseal8463]

Great video. I saw a G-5 and a G-6 in Chile in the FIDAE airshow. Cardoen wanted to assemble them localy. The G-6 was one of the 3 or 4 that fought in Operation Moduler. It was huge. I think, not totaly sure, that the Chilean marines got some G-4s. I have only seen the army's Soltam guns.

[@ComfortsSpecter]

It’s a Great Vibe A Fine Wheeled Howitzer Adorable Design and Reliability Sadly seem’s to Be Misued and Underappreciated Good Presentation Thank You

[@richardhenry5015]

The Military Museum in Johannesburg had a prototype no3 (1979), before swapping it for a pre production model. The no3 prototype was at the SANDF Army College in (then) Voortrekker Hoogte, Pretoria.

[@bg24955]

It comes with prime mover. Excellent

[@clmk28]

This was an excellent weapon system, but sadly African arms manufacturers have always been short-changed.

[@lqr824]

maybe next time don't go down the Apartheid road and your country won't be so screwed up.

[@dashikashi4734]

The apartheid wasn’t what fucked up South Africa, it was allowing corrupt thieves take over the democratic process shortly after it was dismantled. @lqr824

[@QUINNEETHLING]

The country was not screwd up then. It is screwed up now, after apartheid ended. The previous government was capable, and the current one is incompetent. I am not arguing the wrong or rite but just stating the facts.

[@lqr824]

@@QUINNEETHLING > The previous government was capable It utterly failed in education for the vast majority, which is WHY the current govt is incompetent.

[@hughdavies7150]

​@@lqr824first study our history and learn what apartheid was all about before opening your mouth and removing all doubt

[@billkaulitz3610]

Лучшая буксируемая гаубица калибра 155мм!

[@Atricapilla]

Really interesting piece of gear. The 2000 version sounds like a very powerful weapon. Thanks for the video.

[@patriotenfield3276]

Kalyani Has came up with an Upgraded Version of the Original GHN-45 Howitzer for Indian Army.

[@englishwithteachermarius5950]

The memories....😛 1SSB Tempe/Okathima

[@PeterBrown-r6g]

I bet our drop shorts would love to get hold that piece . Regards OZ

[@PeterElliot125]

Excellent detective work. That is an amazing cannon.

[@Jackrabfanyo]

I'm from South Africa and i didn't even know this lol

[@wiktorberski9272]

Another wonderful piece of equipment less popular in Europe

[@yarmud]

Like every other thing which is well functioning and affordable

[@danielkemp4860]

Sad we’ve thrown all our arms production capabilities out the window. Military capabilities not far behind 😔

[@lqr824]

Why sad? Maybe you should have been working a bit harder on education for the majority. Show us how clever you are by educating the majority, rather than making guns to hunt them.

[@blackwidowrsa]

they've had the same education for the last 30 years, still dumb as bricks. fucking euroids.

[@danielkemp4860]

@@lqr824 Maybe you should educate yourself about the education system in the New, Free South Africa 🤣🤣🤣

[@mybru1]

​@@danielkemp4860vir wat lag jy. Folks verifiers soos jy sit met julle vet slet vrouens in australia of Europe terwyl die regte patriots this bly en saam staan as een. Fokken apartheid apologists

[@mybru1]

South african Arms industry is one of the top 10 Arms industries in the world. We're estimated to produce and sell 3 billion rand worth of artillery for the EU. Both Finland and Estonia have increased their annual order for South african umkhonto SAM systems. We export armoured vehicles to over 25 countries including the UK, the US, Germany, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Oman, Thailand, Luxembourg and Argentina. We're estimated to produce and deliver up 13 million rands worth of electronic warfare systems to the US this year which is almost an R8 million incr3ase since last year. The current client list for our new milkor 380 UCAV keeps expanding with the EU also taking an interest in the possibility of purchasing up to 500. Saudi Arabia has already been authorised to receive 300 of them. South Africa is also the only country putside of germany that produces the assegai artillery ammunition for the EU. The assegai program was a joint venture between south africa and germany to produce a long range artillery shell capable of reaching up to 76 km which has been proven both in testing and on the battlefield by Ukrainians. Denel is on track to deliver R1.1 billion worth of assegai ammunition to the EU by the end of this year. As for our al tariq bomb kits more and more countries have started using them. Countries like Hungary, Saudi Arabia, the UAE. Egypt. Finland and Estonia. Get your facts straight you stupid apartheid apologists

[@bombfog1]

Wow, what a sweet gun!

[@gmac2327]

Awesome, love your work 👍🏼

[@eliyahudbenperetz1615]

I being on the wrong end of the G4/G5 guns. It is terrifying, nothing that I can do about it but pray. Still hear the sound and remember the horrible aftermath.

[@thepatriotsrage661]

Ask the Americans during Gulf War 1 about it, they also got hit by it. Glad you came out ok.

[@gotanon9659]

​@@thepatriotsrage661 Well the G5 crew did not last long

[@thepatriotsrage661]

@@gotanon9659 We don't know, but it can be assumed so. Except that the G5 can drop shells and run quickly.

[@oy1561]

It's ironic that this howitzer got no export success .. Considering the multiple number of in production guns that are based on its design.

[@MFitz12]

International sanctions.

[@robert-h2x]

what do you mean?

[@brendanbloom6206]

Could not sell anything overseas

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

​@@MFitz12The reason this gun was developed in the first place. Along with numerous other bits of military and civilian equipment. The best part is we made our own and made them better than the crap we were importing.

[@hennies9509]

The Americans always prevented the sale of it as they wanted their equipment to be bought. It was the same with the Rooivalk Attack Helicopter. The USA stopped sales in their tracks by blackmailing countries. My cousin was the Marketing Manager of the Rooivalk, and he has interesting stories to tell about what the USA did to prevent sales.

[@hennies9509]

We shot down to Russian transport planes on the runway in Angola, those massive Russian planes. I can not remember its name now. I think it was Antelov.

[@hanznel8488]

Antanov

[@petter5721]

Reminded me of the Bofors 77FH

[@Deadround34]

@WeaponDetective Compared with the USA M777 howitzer witch one is the best?

[@user-tj1vg4zn5p]

The M777

[@Deadround34]

@@user-tj1vg4zn5p how do you know where is the specs what is the range what is the firing speed what is the cost

[@keeperoftruth5951]

​@@Deadround34the m777 is an electrical and hydraulic nightmare in the field. Was field artillery for 4 and half years and deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan in that time. I can't speak to the g5 personally but I'd imagine it's over all reliability has to be better than the m777. Our platoon usually had 1 of 3 m777 guns running at any one time while the other 2 had to canbalized for parts while deployed just so we'd have 1 gun that could actually counter fire

[@Deadround34]

@@keeperoftruth5951 thanks for the update

[@AndrewLambert-wi8et]

TAKING OUT AIRCRAFT ON THE GROUND? THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

[@anthonyburke5656]

Value for money, not beaten, the Self-Propelled version is superb, a bit exy though. The “science” of Balls design has now been copied by nearly every 155 mm now in production.

[@sovietred7371]

I wouldnt say its an example of the "wests" supiriority inbartillery firepower, the South Africans back then didnt like the west or the soviets, they were their own thing, and they in MANY ways revolutionized modern war and equioment of war, tactics and so on

[@robert-trading-as-Bob69]

Old South African quality. We stood alone against the forces of Communism, betrayed by our governments adherence to Apartheid policies.

[@Andy-Gibb]

Robert we not only stood against communism in those days we stood against the whole world and came out on top. It pissed of the British and Americans. We were fighting the Russians and the Cubans and all the countries around SA. Those were the days. Southtown Africa showed the whole world the finger and went on.

[@mattpierre891]

Designed by a Canadian.

[@robert-h2x]

@@Andy-Gibb huh

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

​@@mattpierre891ummmm! With some input from a Cannak

[@notreallydavid]

Gerard Bull - say, what happened to him?

[@John5209]

I think he was murdered by a western intelligence agency!

[@geraldheinig1473]

Murdered by the Mossad in the late 80s for helping the Iraqis build a super-gun that could hit Tel Aviv.

[@rockmusicman21]

Mossad payed him a little visit.

[@Balangair1]

And the US turned a blind eye to his assassination

[@mearalain3006]

A GRAND SON FROM GRANDE PORTéE FILLOU GPF 155.

[@swiftysmusings6970]

Fun fact: The Russian ship, the Lady R, that was docked in Simons Town in 2023 loaded at least 5 of these cannons destined for the war in Ukraine. They were disassembled and loaded into shipping containers and transported by Truck in the dead of night.

[@detdet3871]

How do you know this?

[@profpuffofficial2]

ammo was offloaded, 6 containers were loaded on. so if you know 5 whats the 6th

[@richardhenry5015]

G4 assistance from Israel can be confirmed. The Military Museum in Johannesburg has at least one Israeli cartridge case in 155mm for the imported G4 guns.

[@robertlee1749]

Late Correction? I was wondering about the Radio Shack joke. Very funny as a time capsule, but cords? It was the closest thing to a supply shop for electronics, like components (chips, resistors, LEDs), stereos, police scanners, speakers, STEM learning kits, toys, and also cords to connect it all. And the TRS-80, a contemporary of the Apple II and the first "P

[@beachboy0505]

Clever

[@MrMikeV00]

Great piece of kit. Hy praat lekker Afrikaans

[@ayatahm9987]

look like based on NSDAP german engineering

[@jayrigger7508]

There is a connection between this gun and the mega gun Iraq was building.. check out bio of James Bull

[@TimSerras]

Why did South Africans disabled their howitzers and fled leaving FNLA and Portuguese mercenaries on their own to face a much stronger and better armed joint Cuban/Fapla artillery in Angola (battle for Luanda November 1975)?

[@QUINNEETHLING]

Because of pressure (boikots) from the USA and the west to withdraw.

[@QUINNEETHLING]

Make no mistake that the CIA was pulling the strings in that conflict

[@TimSerras]

@@QUINNEETHLING So I’ve been told. Still makes no sense at all. CIA financed a rag tag so called army, the FNLA, backed by the useless Zairean military, a few worthless British mercenaries led by a lunatic Anglo-Cypriot murderer and the only capable fighting unit there, the Portuguese volunteers, who had experience in fighting the war in Angola since all were ex-Portuguese army veterans. However they were too few to make a difference. South Africa provided much needed heavy equipment, namely their famous howitzers, but suddenly they turned back and left, and why still puzzles me.

[@Loneranger670]

By 1987, South Africa decisively defeated Angolan and Cuban forces, tilting the conflict in favor of UNITA rebels. Concurrently, South Africa's gradual disengagement from its conflict with SWAPO to the East followed Russia's withdrawal of support for proxy wars due to its transformation into a Federation. With perceived threats diminishing, South African forces returned home, initiating the transition to black-led governance under the ANC. However, mismanagement ensued as the ANC disbanded the formidable South African army, dismissing its skilled white personnel, leading to equipment deterioration. Today, the South African army struggles, having failed to produce any notable weaponry for the market-a stark testament to the corrosive impact of corruption

[@gerhardmeyer8891]

​@@QUINNEETHLINGthe united states intervened and they diverted their 5th fleet. The entire war was a CIA operation in which the South Africans played a role. The idea was to win a war, not win a battle that would enrage a superpower. You needed to be there mate. I saw SA infantry troops screaming with rage when the pull-back call came. Luanda was for the taking, but strange things happens in proxy wars

[@phoenixrising427]

Perfect before BC - Before Cadres

[@ljubomirculibrk4097]

16 ton, no that M777 titanium bs. It works

[@cccmmm1234]

Same as used in G6.

[@robert-h2x]

hahahahahahahah

[@lqr824]

A gun "working" is just the ante. Infants like you talk firepower. Experts know that military operations are all about logistics.

[@Ilikepie18855]

Now in mandelas South Africa, how do we make electricity?

[@raymondyee2008]

If I remember correctly it was a shipment of these guns on a freighter that was nabbed by U.S Customs and that got DR. Gerard Bull in hot soup. Seemed obvious that they referenced this gun in the movie “Doomsday Gun”.

[@jeffnic3116]

@0:54 "Began massive conventional raids into South West Africa"? Really? SWA was a territory under South Africa, they did not have to carry out raids into SWA, get the history right.

[@BigDaddyButthead90]

Yes they did

[@jeffnic3116]

@@BigDaddyButthead90 That means by your analogy, they carried out conventional raids in South Africa. The SADF only used the G5 in Angola in battle.

[@anon-iraq2655]

This artillery was loved a lot by iraqi trools

[@rl2204]

20km's?

[@AndrewLambert-wi8et]

IRAN HAS SWEDISH BOFORS FH 77B.

[@anthonyburke5656]

Wanna bet they were used in Mozambique?

[@Mustamir2024]

South Africa

[@kenbird8783]

The Sadf surrendered unconditionally to a terrorist outfit without firing a single shot.

[@christobosman5710]

Wrong , the traitor de klerk fired our generals and lied to the people to establish a one man one vote system with the help of the world , the white South Africans was betrayed within .

[@jacobusackermann5254]

Betrayed by FW de Klerk and Pik Botha. Destroyed a first world country and turned it into a shithole under the Anc government in the short period of 30 years of corruption and mismanagement.

[@AndrewLambert-wi8et]

LISTEN TO HIM. STILL SOME OF THE BEST. IT IS FAR FROM BEING ONE OF THE BEST. DOESNT PLACE IN THAT CATEGORY ANYMORE. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

[@AndrewLambert-wi8et]

I HAVE A GOOD UPGRADE CONCEPT FOR THESE GUNS INCREASING FIREPOWER AND DECREASING MANPOWER NEEDS DURING PROLONGED FIRE MISSIONS. I DONT THINK GERALD BULL DID THE DESIGN FOR THE CARRIGE. HE WAS ONLY.INTERESTED IN ORDANCE DEVELOPMENT. HE WAS TO BIG AND EXPENSIVE.FOR THAT SH*T WORK.

[@up_dogF1]

Is this the same gun used in the G7?

[@WeaponDetective]

The G7 is 105mm

[@up_dogF1]

@@WeaponDetective OH, yes! I was thinking of the G6 SPG

[@stug77]

100 klicks at 16kph sounds like an awful road trip.

[@gideonvanniekerk4252]

And yet it is a TOWED artillery piece!

[@dougerrohmer]

It's not a self propelled gun. It's got an auxiliary engine to be used for positioning and such. Beats rousting the troops to put shoulder to the wheel.

[@rogeronslow1498]

There's a version called the G6 which is self propelled and armoured.

[@montys420-]

Allows for limited shoot and scoot though

[@dougerrohmer]

@@montys420- Maybe to move the gun over to the gun tractor, but it would be stupid to plan to move the gun with a little putt putt. Russian artillery is so kak that you would need to scoot 20 kilometers to prevent getting accidently hit by the counter battery fire, so forget about using the putt putt for shoot and scoot.

[@Buildinc1]

Sadly all international sales were blocked by the US and NATO countries . I’m sure Saddam bought a few .

[@anthonyburke5656]

Sorry, auto-correct “Bulls”

[@donovanvallance2632]

The footage they are using is old as hell…

[@garysmith3036]

Towed artillery has had its day

[@Pilvenuga]

it still is in the limelight, infact, good artillery systems have a force multiplier today since they dont have to go high - calibre saturation fire mode to guarantee effect. the drone spotted recon makes it much more effective today.

[@JD-tn5lz]

Pretty ignorant to say that. See how much tracked artillery or MLRS resupply you can sling under a helicopter or stow in an amphib assault ship...even better yet, see how long it takes to transport those ashore. Compared to MLRS, let's see how much direct fire you can manage, or shift fire. You sound like someone who reads a few books, saw a few YT videos, and played some games and calls that knowledge. No, it doesn't deserve to be called pre-eminent, but still it's incredibly useful. If I were forced to choose to only have one type in inventory, it'd be towed over tracked or MLRS...better to have all three.

[@username_3715]

ukranians seem to want more of it

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

Air lift by helicopter ... Says not always.. plus this can relocate itself quickly and far enough to avoid counter fire or exposing the Tow support vehicles.. Besides I think a variant of the gun ended up in the Rhino 🦏 SPG.

[@dogwhistle8836]

It has local mobility under its own power which makes it quicker move than traditional towed artillery, 2mins to set up or move

[@The_ZeroLine]

How about focusing on platforms used in the Baltics and stuff that will potentially be used in the current war. I’d focus there for more relevant content and higher views.

[@MFitz12]

The G5 was one of the earliest incarnations of the field howitzer pattern that has come to dominate artillery design in the west since the 1980's. This makes it historically significant.

[@propellerhead428]

Son of 88mm

[@acongmamat3628]

🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾

[@raisakmal3894]

better than US's M777

[@MFitz12]

Different tools for somewhat different jobs. At 14 tons the G5 is,... chunky. this has always been one of its big problems. At a bit over 4 tons the M777 is positively svelte. You aren't ever going to sling a G5 under a helicopter for example. Turkey for a few years produced a Gerry Bull derived L52 towed howitzer based on Singapore's version of the GC45/G5/GH-N-45 platform. Then they figured out _hey, this thing is freakin heavy. Lets just mount it on the back of a truck instead_ and stopped building the towed gun.

[@Augh98-nt2zn]

The G-5 was only successful in SADF hands. The sandf isn't fit to make coffee for them.

[@mybru1]

The sandf still maintains 100 of them. A handful received upgrades alongside about 20 G6's a few years ago. We're the only country outside of germany that is authorised to produce the assegai artillery ammunition for NATO standard artillery systems. Denel is ahead of schedule to deliver R1.1 BILLION worth of these assegai ammunitions types to the EU. The assegai system was successfully tested in both its development periods and on the battlefield by Ukraine we're it reached ranges of 70km plus with effective impact range of around 10 metres. Stupid apartheid apologists poes

[@Augh98-nt2zn]

@mybru1 you're damn right I'm an Apartheid apologist. It wouldn't matter if your G5s and G6s had black panthers vibranium, shit troops mean that they're worthless. I've no doubt you'd fit right in.

[@Augh98-nt2zn]

@@mybru1 And? What use is all that if the troops are crap?

[@glywnniswells9480]

Yea it would be ricoffy

[@Shylockza]

In the Gulf War, the US were shitting themselves as Iraq had our artillary and they could not match it. Extremely lucky for them, the Iraqui army were clueless, like the SANDF in fact. There could have been a totally different outcome if they had knowledgable and efficient operators.