Starlink Gen 2 12v Conversions are not all the same

[@dafadowndilly8919]

Very informative John... Didn't understand a thing, but very informative... I wish I had a younger brain to absorb some of this info that you kindly and freely give.

[@traveling.down.the.road56]

10% to 20% power savings aren’t worth the trouble for me, but if the 12 volt solution is 50% less power hungry, then I might consider this. Thanks for the info.

[@The_Arby]

Your a clever helpful guy John...Thank you for all you do mate 🙂

[@Rich-n-Cooper]

Great video, converted mine a while back to 12v using the Boondocker kit with an average of around 45w to 60w draw in use and booting the dish. Mine is flat mounted using the 3d printed files from Everlanders via thingverse. Self printed it at home and you keep most of the dish intact (you just remove the motor section) so easier to keep it weather proof. Everlanders did a good video on how to cut the dish too, the cable runs very close to the outer edge, so start with a smaller hole and enlarge, dont ask how i know :) Hope you both keeping well Rich and Cooper

[@GadgetJohn]

You might find the next video in the series interesting 👍🏻

[@simonseldom]

This is great very helpful, thanks John. Can't wait for the next one. With Starlink and the Gl.i Router you are well covered.

[@paidoluca]

Great content! Keep doing those

[@DA11NOON]

Great vlog John very interesting 👍 Be safe

[@petertmac]

I found the 12-48v buck boost converter to be electrically “noisy”. Adding a couple of ferrite beads and a 1000uf 64v electrolytic capacitor on the 48v output cleaned up any ripple on the 48v DC resulting in the same data speeds as the standard setup.

[@theborednerds]

Are you using the XTAR link or the XLTTYWL?

[@suziq4394]

Great test John... and it has convinced me more than ever to wait for the Starlink minidish that cant be too far down the road😂

[@GadgetJohn]

I thought the same until Starlink said the mini dish is only going to be sold to existing Starlink customers with a static setup. There are also stipulations the mini dish cannot be used for roaming or when in motion. The final limitation of the mini dish is the speed restriction they impose. So it seems the mini dish isn’t going to be a realistic option for Vanlife.

[@suziq4394]

@@GadgetJohn thank you for that John. I have been watching many US videos over the last few days and I think restrictions costs and speeds may have moved on a bit over the last week or 2 ? I suppose time will tell as to what becomes available here ? Enjoy your gadget video's and please give our best wishes to Mandy.

[@GadgetJohn]

The US has different restrictions than Europe, check the Starlink website for current device terms.

[@tonysewell3700]

@@GadgetJohn Starlink mini has just been launched in Europe with two roam plans. The same plans as the standard dish.

[@NoJourneyTooSmall]

Still, the power draw is minimal. I compare everything to my induction cooktop with a kettle set on 1500w. STARLINK IS NOTHING! GREAT VIDEO!

[@yaminthegrey]

Hari Om Even though I am never going to do this, I enjoyed the geeky info!!! YAM xx

[@DavidDwyer]

Another thing to add is the inverter loss, this will depend on which inverter you use. My testing with a Victron 3000VA on AC to 12/48v kit, I had seen savings of 1kw per day!!

[@tonysewell3700]

The Starlink Mini has just been launched in Europe (27/07/2024), like the standard dish there are two different service plans. It runs on 12v and is much lighter than the standard dish (2.5lb or 1.1k) I have just ordered one.

[@GadgetJohn]

It’s still not available in the UK and when it is there’s likely going to be limitations on speed, as is the case in the USA, and it’s only available if you’re already a residential Starlink customer.

[@GrahamThomas-s7z]

Hi John, would you tell me where you got the 12v converter kit for gen 2 starlink from please.

[@iangiles7038]

Hi John what 2 way radios are you using in both vans and how are they wired up to have them hanging

[@zuk4wd]

Great content John. I was amazed that in flat mode it performed as good as tilted. It does look like those kits are just PoE injectors. Can you confirm that ?

[@GadgetJohn]

They are 👍🏻

[@grantrodgers2829]

Great content. The conversions both gave dramatically less speed. 120Mbps with OOKLA when using native starlink products and then 50ish using the better 12v product. Any views on why?

[@GadgetJohn]

It’s tough to test in identical circumstances over several days, so the weather or other network factors could play a big part.

[@davecarter34]

Hey John you can't router like that here in Australia, but thanks for the tips. A root is a sexual act and a rooter (as you pronounced it ) is a person undertaking that act. The kids thought it was hilarious.

[@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204]

Good video on channel keep up the vlogs and travel video you do on channel thanks lee

[@fftcdragonboy7999]

I have the same product but keep haveing disconnected issues all the time amd when I contact the company they told me I not pulling the right amount of current wich I pull around 5amp and they saying at 12v it shoukd be 150W and 15amp so just wanner know if yours pulling 15amps cause that sems pretty stupid

[@steedthrust]

The only downside I see of permanently fixing/flat mounting the Starlink is the inability to move it away from tree cover if needed.

[@GadgetJohn]

That’s true, but I’d try my best to avoid parking under trees for solar charge reasons and if it rains you don’t want to be under trees either.

[@m8trxproductions417]

Hello John, I’ve been experiencing mixed results when the Starlink router is not connected. The main issue is that I have internet access at my router, but the Starlink app indicates it’s not connected, preventing me from performing a speed test. I noticed that when you show the phone image saying "Online," it only displays an image of the dish, while mine displays an image showing the router with a line to the dish. Do you recommend turning the "Bypass" setting on in the app for the Starlink router, which removes the router image? I’d prefer not to use Bypass, as I want to keep both options available without having to unplug 6 times, which is required to reset the Starlink Router to remove bypass. Thank you!

[@PauseBreatheMeditate]

Dang it, ordered the Xstar Link last week and its on route to me.... Are you getting any over heating from the other 12v conversion unit you installed? Might have to get that...

[@GadgetJohn]

It gets warm but even after 6 hours of use in summer (UK summer 🤣) it doesn’t get very hot and still works fine with consistent service & speeds

[@thomasraden3793]

Try most possible not use an inverter is my experience. Stay at 12 volts if possible. The inverter always has an inefficiency, dissipation that goes out in heat. I do charge my laptop and other stuff with a USB-C cigarett adapter connected to my van living battery. It is a DC-DC adapter converter that feeds most of the stuff I use with the right voltage, from 12 volts up to 21 volts. One of the only few things that I have to use my inverter for is to charge my electrical bike. Its impossible to find a DC-DC charger for it that supply 42 volts, 2-3 amps.

[@GadgetJohn]

You’ll find a buck boost to get that voltage but beware it’ll likely damage the e-bike battery

[@thomasraden3793]

@@GadgetJohn I think you are right there. Do you know any adapter/regulator if you want to be able to charge your leisure battery from your main engine battery? This of course only while driving your van and the car generator is active.

[@thomasraden3793]

Ecoflow has released a DC-DC alternator converter to connect to their power stations. Apparently it connects to the engine battery and starts working when the engine battery is charged from the alternator during driving. It feed it to the Ecoflow DC-DC converter, that converts it up to 42 volts to minimise amperage and charge the Ecoflow power station. It also has a possibility to reverse charge, to feed the engine battery from the power station.

[@timstradling7764]

As a technophobe, and low usage person, this beautifully demonstrates that Starlink in any form is beyond my level of patience and comprehension !! Thank you John for explaining the systems so beautifully. I’m still brain fogged , must watch again to make more sense of it all😢

[@PazLeBon]

that really isnt the case. the dummy settings are fine in most cases

[@Frank-xp3xd]

There is a solution but unfortunately also an additional and terrible tangle of cables and connections.

[@victor007ven]

😊

[@Rob.1340]

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