GAMBLING IN PUBG AND GAMING - Are progressive skins bad? Here are my thoughts! Let's talk!

[@WackyJacky101]

*Grabbing popcorn and getting ready to go through every single comment here*

[@sneakyplays101]

hello

[@sneakyplays101]

im sneakymind in your twitch streams

[@praveenpavi1748]

sorry wacky youtube does not like name Gambling in title, this video might get problems i think

[@walterwhite415]

The Idea and the system themself are good. I also use skins in games and I like to have an individual charakter and individual weapons. In games like Forza Horizon I spend like half the time creating individual looking cars. So if I´m given the option to customise anything, I sure will do! The big problem is the price. In CSGO for example the price on skins can get totally out of hand, like you said and I never will do that, but there are also some skins that cost a couple of cent to one or two Euros you can buy on the steam market and I got some of them. But in PUBG it´s also all way too expensive in my opinion and I´ll never spent a high amount of money on the skins. And that it is random lootboxed, where I don´t know what I get for my money makes it a system I won´t spend real money on. There is stuff I´d like to have in PUBG, but the price is too high for me. Thats also the reason why I´m a little annoyed by the menue of the game; Like half of the functions are somehow related to the cosmetics you can buy and there are like 5 or more different ingame currencys for that. PUBG is one of my favourite games, but they really need to make it only one or two ingame currencys and just one "Shop" area, instead of serveral areas and dozens of popups leading to that. I´m okay with the game at advertise the skins and all, but please don´t overload the game with commercials for that!

[@vik.1903]

I'm so glad you made this point. PUBG skin system is so stupid, and when you compare do CS... It's like comparing the intelligence of Einstein vs a rock. It's so dumb. PUBG doesn't know how to run their business. The decisions are always disconnected from the fanbase. CSGO, with all its problems, it's so much better. SO MUCH BETTER. Also, you don't EVER know when there's competitions happening. THAT'S THE BASE OF EVERY COMPETITIVE GAME. And you have to search for it. PUBG implements 1000 different features but they neglect the utmost basic stuff. There should ALWAYS bne a VISIBLE schedule of competitions on the lobby. That's BASIC.

[@ralphengland8559]

You know we have a problem in gaming when people argue that 400 dollars for a maxed out skin is reasonable.

[@encephalon3563]

Yeah nothing short of pure greed, I respect wacky for being impartial though he seems to know not to get in hot water.

[@VikeDX]

@@caesaria Yes, the person in the video that you are commenting under.

[@FacundoCampazzo123]

I thought he was joking at first when he said that as a reasonable number lol. If your'e out there paying $400 for a skin.......dude......

[@Ghostyfrost9688]

Agreed

[@twilekcustodian]

400? Didn't he say it's up to 1700 dollars for one?

[@Vestu]

I've played PUBG since 2017 and I still have no idea: - Where and how can I use my polymers? - How to even get the progressive skins - I've opened like million boxes that supposedly have progressive skin items in them and never got any. None. :D It doesn't matter that much though since I'm not that much into skins.

[@TheJubess]

you need the polymers combined with schematics to upgrade lvls in the progressive skins. If you have never unlocked a progressive skin, it's no wonder you have no idea where to spend it. I've got one, out of my many many crates

[@sayarduttabiswas]

Yep, playing since 2018, no regressive skins so far :). so schematics and polymers are just sitting there. But exactly how you put it, I dont mind. Cosmetics are called cosmetics for a reason. Looks cool (sometimes), adds no value. meh.

[@FactsDawg]

Im also an old school player and i never packed a progressive skin or schematics...

[@TheJubess]

@@sayarduttabiswas Haha Yeah sometimes. Most progressive skins are butt ugly though. So not really sorry for not hitting anything

[@mrpsiho1381]

same here.its just big scam,only partners have these stuff or those who spend more than 1000$

[@VitoFur]

I totally agree with you! And especially the “gambling“ part has gotten a lot of attention here in Germany the past few years as online gambling is illegal here. I think the system needs to keep the very fine balance between fun and not becoming a literal online casino like CS:GO. This is definetely an important topic that needs to be adressed more in the future

[@imnotallergic]

Why is it illegal? What’s wrong with gambling?

[@VitoFur]

@@imnotallergic Just online gambling id illegal as it can't be monitored a well as gambling "irl"

[@yodaspadawan6085]

@@imnotallergic Skin Crates are gambling because you'll never know what you get and you cant see if the Gambler is underage or not when He buys crates for Skins

[@ItsSlmba]

@@yodaspadawan6085 No front but online Gambling is since this year allowed in Germany !!!! You dont see all the tv commercials ?

[@AlexFlodder]

@@ItsSlmba No, I don't watch tv. (I watch youporn/youtube/xhamster/twitch).

[@SamiB91]

the Netherlands has banned gambling from all games. Gaming companies would never do this out of themselves, because there is so much money in it. It's a shame really, we don't need gambling in games but rather progressive rewards to keep people playing.

[@marionetteworks]

Did they ban PUBG?

[@SamiB91]

@@marionetteworks not the game, the crates etc. that are based on luck.

[@marionetteworks]

@@SamiB91 Oh, in Netherlands you don’t have the pay-for creates in the game? How nice.

[@CropperTV]

agreed! like battlebits remastered! feels like a fun grind and the rewards for your work are great

[@DakDaraN]

@@marionetteworks but then you can't get the skin no? but it's a good ideea

[@peter0739]

Because I've been watching Wacky all this years from time to time, this video really felt like an old friend who shared his deep thoughts. And I am sure I am not the only one here who feels like this.

[@Rhapsody_Sky]

I remember starting pubg, opening free crates, finding a rare item and basically earning 120$. It was fun, inexpensive and a nice experience. But its also harmfull. I have also seen friends spend way to much on these crates to the point where they basically could only eat noodles for the rest of the month...

[@davidnaef1]

I had the same experience in Rocket League. Developers of "games" try to hook you and pull ppl into habitual gambleing. Thank you very much for your comment. It really helps when ppl share informations like these. Have a good day!

[@rickybarksdale7150]

Gambling is addictive

[@ariffk]

The problem in this game, as you've mentioned, is that the top tier of skins costs an obscene amount of money - to rank up to the top tier they expect players to spend around $1700 which is like a months wages for some people. Sadly, top streamers, e-Sports pro's & whales are buying these and it's making it look "OK" in the eyes of pubg. There are many players who have played this game since it launched, who can't afford to pay this amount of money and either don't bother with skins or are having to resort to gambling with coupons either by buying them with G-Coin (which costs money) or by using BP - which is getting even harder to obtain and utterly useless in this game now. They're shoe-horning players down the route of having to put their hand in their pocket. Another sad and alarming thing about this game is that some G-coin packages don't *appear* to cost that much. It might be a couple of dollars, but susceptible players will likely buy multiple $9.99 G-coin packages, which could end up being a lot of money if they get hooked - especially more likely if they're lucky to win something early on - They'll continue to chase this thrill & hope they win again. I would imagine for some of these players it's so easy to spend $100 in a couple of weeks - which for some people is a lot of money which should be going towards bills and food... The fact this game implements a gambling system and doesn't have an in-game spend limit is both astonishing and reckless imo. They should at the very least have an option in-game to set a spending limit within a certain timeframe - Eg: $10 per week - and at least have it so that if they remove the spend limit that it takes 72 hours to take effect. This would at least help reduce the impulsive spending or buying of items. In fact I think this should be an option in Steam - I dont believe there is one currently (unless I'm mistaken). Why PUBG is so aggressive with it's monetary strategy is baffling. Why they think pricing the average player out of their items is a good move, I've no idea. If they had progressive skins and could be topped out at $400 I'd imagine more players would purchase these - obviously they could still have skins that are topped out at 1500 but at least make progressive skins in general more obainable by playing the game - Gcoin, coupons for chicken dinners, kills, etc... BP gain is too low and utterly pointless at this stage in the games life and should probably just be removed. Overall I think the entire store, hideout, workshop, currencies, polymers, blueprint system in this game just needs a complete re-work to simplify it. I've played this game since 2017 and couldn't explain to anyone how polymers or blueprints are used - along with all these new cache boxes, and artisan tokens, and whatever else there is (jesus christ there's too many)!

[@micTest_123]

Hey Wacky, keep at this topic as much as possible and raise it with other content creators as well as with PUBG. We might finally see some light.

[@sherlockhogan6078]

I would like to have special skins for people who are very good at the game. Fox example you get a ticket for every match you win with 10 kills or more. and than you can buy the weapon for 40 tickets. A system like this would be cool i guess.

[@andykrikkit]

Skill-based skins would be cool. Excluding bot kills of course! After bots were introduced any achievement feels a little meaningless.

[@bynlb]

Thats a good a idea. It would motivate regular players to practice more. Skill based skins or achievements. Like in BF you get medals even for dying to much.

[@sherlockhogan6078]

@@bynlb the already where skill based skind in the missions before. but they stopped doing this. It realy motivated me to play and win. but it wars to easy for better players.

[@bynlb]

@@sherlockhogan6078 oh yeah, i forgot the beryl challenge. We need that!!!

[@only50]

Glad to see you talk about this Wacky 🤝

[@bergerblancsuisse.]

I'm an avid default skin enjoyer. The optimal solution is having the monetary value of each skin clearly presented, rather than some virtual currency designed purely to obfuscate the amount. Second to this is removing any chance based purchases. If what you buy isn't what you will use in-game, then it shouldn't exist and is only there to encourage a sunk cost fallacy. As an adult, if you want to open some crates, take your cash to the casino and pull some levers to be able to purchase the skin you want directly.

[@xXPaul462Xx]

That would be very very cool if they changed it to be able to earn the lvls in game by playing! Like 50 kills to lvl 2, 100 kills starting over to lvl 3, 100 kills and 50 headshots to lvl 4, 5 kills a game for 50 games to lvl 5. Like have challenges per lvl and make them not easy but not ridiculous. Make it fun to have something to work for.

[@PrimeGaming10]

7:43 - You draw the line wherever you need it sergeant (Captain Price voice)

[@MsTheDruid]

I have 800hrs in pubg and have spent every contraband coupon I have earned on cases for progressive weapons + spent hard earned cash on g-coin for cases but have yet to acquire one. I have decided to not waste any more money on this game that I love and decided to only use contraband coupon for loot. Thank you wackyjacky101 for addressing this issue and I really hope they make cosmetic items more accessible. oh and wacky 3:15 400$ for a maxed out skin? still way to much imo.

[@sheddz6662]

they should add a non reversible block function for buying progressive skins with gcoin for people who have addiction like you can block yourself from all casinos in vegas

[@drex5160]

400 dollars for pixels on a screen?😂 5 to 10 dollars should be the price range.

[@PhoenixNLx]

Exactly, 400 dollars is still way too much. The game itself costs 30 in 2017...

[@uk3ndt]

Nah, cuz then it wouldn't be special, and therefore noone would want them.

[@WackyJacky101]

Fair. But isn't it okay that there exist expensive luxury items whether it being digital or physical? Some people would spend thousands on a luxury brand handbag that has the same functionality as a cheap one! In my opinion we should not judge what other people find being worth their own hard earned money, but I do agree with your sentiment that progressive skins should be much cheaper than they are today!

[@PhoenixNLx]

@@uk3ndt but is something only special if its expensive?

[@drex5160]

@@WackyJacky101 agreed 💯 but tbf i also laugh equally at ppl spending so much money on luxury items that are cheaply made but with branding on them😅

[@JamesonHuddle]

I think it's pretty sad that pubg's coolest skins are locked behind such a big paywall, I've bought some battle passes and in most games I play I am not completely free to play, but 1700 for one cosmetic is straight up mega whale territory. In general I prefer games where most people chip in moderate amounts of money to support development and everyone gets to enjoy all the features. Unfortunately that's just not how our capitalist world generally works, but it's really cool when games pull it off.

[@madeiraislander]

I don't mind buying DLCs to support a game that i like and keep it fresh. Buying these useless skins for this kind of money however is completely crazy. But it seems some people don't mind spending so much money on it, meaning they have a ton of disposable income. So, take this money and buy a useless skin, or donate the money to a charity? Or to help a friend in need, support an artist, buy a gift for a loved one? Personally i couldn't spend this much money on a skin, it would drive me insane. Sorry for the little rant 🤣

[@pa6L0]

I've been playing this game since beta and haven't bought a mottled skin with real money and it's possible to live and play normally - I recommend it.

[@LeeGoldsworthy]

Thanks!

[@WackyJacky101]

Thanks a lot for this Lee!

[@agentzoro1555]

Hey Wacky, thank you so much for talking on this topic. I'd really love and play the game more if they add some kind of missions or mastery levels to upgrade levels of the progressive skins. Also thank you so much for being the reason to remove the Blue Chip Detector ❤

[@davefrighty]

The prices for anything in pubg is nothing short of obscene. It is quite frankly unjustifiable. Anyone who thinks 1000 quid for a weapon skin needs a reality check.

[@subhojitroy534]

How to use weapon slot in "Erangle Remastered" lobby? I am able to see weapon slots in "Survivour Base" lobby.

[@R3dream3r]

Great topic to discuss Wacky! I have never payed for any skins so far in Pubg since i play from 2018. For me this is a waste of money on cosmetics that don't add to the gameplay. I have opened crates of course and got cool rare skins, but never a progressive one. I would really like to have a greater chance of getting one even if you don't pay, but the chances are really low. So i would also make it 2 ties, by having one where you can pay, and one for the free player to grind. Or at least giving out to loyal players who have been playing for a long time. But i have the same problem as i'm also a parent of 3, that how to protect my children from getting on this train. I think it can be solved by honest communication with your children, so they don't abuse these systems, but that is just one side, i think game makers has the responsibility here as well.

[@madeiraislander]

I agree with you :) I have spent maybe 15€ in skins, but i used the Steam marketplace, so i'm supporting fellow gamers instead! 🤣 Of course now we can't sell skins there, pubg blocked it, so new skins are worthless :( I like the marketplace dynamic, instead of these worthless crate skins. But they don't make money from the marketplace, so that's why they stopped it. Greedy pubg

[@DegreelessnessMode]

I have also not paid for a skin or battlepass either. I just don't think they are a good value. I did randomly unlock the Over the Rainbow M24, but I have not been able to level it even once. I have 5,000 polymers and 1 schematic but you need TWO schematics to level it.

[@jshilali]

They should cancel gambling in games and make two way to have skines: 1: direct purchase 2: hi skill player make hard achievements.

[@Dutchnavyengineer]

In the |Netherlands, the boxes where you have to buy keys for, are not in the game, or you can't open them, something like that, as it is considered as being gambling. You buy something but you don't know what you'll get, that is gambling.

[@iamstrider1375]

I think you are on the money @WackyJacky101 . I especially like the concept of upgrading the cosmetics of your weapon as you become more skilful playing with them etc. What a great way to get people to not only want to play more but also try out more weapons in game and spice things up a bit. I can't say I disagree with a word you said from this video. Great stuff! Food for thought, I hope Krafton sees this :D

[@lildirtnap1198]

M25, been playing on console since free to play; got lucky and got the pink SLR progressive skin and i have no idea what to do with polymers or how to obtain scrap

[@neox3420]

Another very good video. Thanks very much. A very sensitive subject. With many different opinions. I think you explained it very well. We simply have to protect the younger ones, because this generation is confronted with it everywhere online. It must not appear as if gambling is something normal and great. It's a fine line. Thanks Wacky

[@DEADhands.]

I would like to see a duplicate protection system. Get 10-15 of the same skin then you can turn them in for a tokin or something that locks that skin from the loot pool. Or see some type of loot guarantee. Open 10-20 crates then the next will be a garanteed high level skin or clothing item.

[@Inyria]

Then the whole crate idea is pointless. Might as well just make it a step up system instead at that point.

[@St0RM33]

Ocelot: "Engravings...give you no tactical advantages whatsoever"

[@Turvok]

Great video as always wacky! Only got a k9 progressive skin. High enough to get the kill feed upgrade. It's more expensive than it needs to be. I haven't tried to get any progressives since. I did use some of the in game stuff to choose a smoke coliur and got really lucky with the free tickets to get the smoke launcher colour. But I've been avoiding spending money on pubg for awhile. Just feels unnecessarily expensive.

[@mikecool4ever]

Great video!! I wish there was a limit on how many duplicate items you can receive. I dont mind having rare items but getting 50 of the same thing becomes stale fast.

[@joshross93]

Yep. Purchased ten crates and got FIVE fucking Desert Digital Kar98s... I was furious and it's bullshit.

[@patrickgiordan5483]

To me, I can't see why they can't have a price tag on it. If not, surely a skill-based progression would be really cool. I'm one of few players that have the"serpents kiss" akm which was something you had to earn within the season. This was also a really good idea

[@xdomsel]

Amazing Video! Im a Xbox Player, I own Progressive Skins and I also leveled them up. I play since 2018 and in this time period I did spend alot of money for PUBG. Battlepasses, Skins, Crates and on leveling up my progressives. I lost track to be honest but I think its probably around 1000 bucks in total, but I really love my Killfeed Skins and played PUBG for 2000h. Im not regretting it at all but I do think that gambling is problem in gaming. If you have the money, go for it and have fun! People buy clothes, new rims for their car or spend hundreds of dollars partying on the weekends. The System can stay pretty much as it is in my opionion. Progressives should rare and hard to get BUT: updgrading it should be alot easier and more rewarding (battlestat, really? animation? pubg cant be serious) and there should be more ways to obtain scamatics and polymer through events, or cheaper updrade cost. after all I can say I think that the feature should be optimized abd less expensive overall, the prices and the fact that its pretty much all (bad) rng is ridiculous. thanls for the grat video man!

[@slaysi]

PUBG need to make it so the progressive skins are a bit more expensive compared to the normal skins and scrap the gambling. It will entice more people to purchase skins in the game as they will know exactly l what they’re getting. Which should make them more revenue than having a small amount of rich people gambling. Look at Fortnite and Call of Duty, they’re selling in-game skins with no gambling involved and they make far more than PUBG.

[@S_A_N_H_O_K]

I PULLED THE PROGRESSIVE SKIN SKS OUT OF HUNTER CHEST, NEEDED 20,000 CREDITS TO CRAFT IT, I'VE SPENT $160 SO FAR ONLY GOT 1 SCHEMATIC. THIS IS NO WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheTrueMacedonian]

I started playing pubg again after a 3 year pasue and immediately got 2 progressive skins. All the crates i opened i got for free from Battlepass and free contrabands from events. Am i just really lucky? I have opened about 15-20 crates.

[@andykrikkit]

Yes, that is very lucky. I have one prog. skin after 5 years and an ungodly number of hours playtime.

[@TheTrueMacedonian]

@@andykrikkit Well atleast you have one, seeing some comments here some people are extremely unlucky ):. I usually have amazing pack/opening luck but terrible luck in game so its a matter of balance i guess.

[@sai9saqui]

Gambling can be an exciting and entertaining activity for many individuals, providing a sense of thrill and anticipation. However, it is essential to recognize that like any other activity, gambling also has its limitations. Understanding and respecting these limitations is crucial to ensuring a safe and enjoyable experience.

[@VISHNUSURESH2050]

Man, I love WackyJacky ❤

[@mdwilson94]

But now you don’t get BP from the free playing crates, so you won’t be able to buy the coupons from the store from long.. your BP will run out

[@andreihatcu5640]

Make more KZbin content bro , your the best! :* from Romania with love ;)

[@joelclifton6312]

I don't have to worry about it, because number 1 I've only bought two bundles of skins (Wacky's being one of them) and I don't care too much about skins, but number 2, I have no idea how the system works and I don't feel like trying to figure it out. Schematics? Polymers? Crates? Tickets? I have no idea what those are, how they work, and how to navigate all that.

[@bazaarballoon100]

You’ve highlighted a good point. Finding a way to exploit fallacies in human nature has always been the staple of big business. Don’t get me wrong having choices is a great privilege but there are many pitfalls that one can succumb to if they are tempted repeatedly. This can come in the form of gambling as you spoke about, but also drugs and alcohol and other vices that are addictive. It stinks that these things are being included in games that children can play, because they can easily exploit them. The video gaming industry has a lot to learn about ethics of this. Also these games are part of publicly traded companies in which stock holders can sue if the companies don’t try to make the most money they can to raise the value of company.

[@bigstend8172]

The gambling system would be fine if they add like a bonus after each crate purchase like the rarest skins are like < 1% but with every crate purchase, your chance to open it increases by 0.5%, and if you have lets say one gun that has already 10% chance to be opened, and you open it, its chance to open it again, goes back down to the original percent. This was you can still feel like you are `gambling` for the addicts and give you a higher chance each time you open a box. Pubg does many sketchy things with their currencies. We had BP, XP(survivor pass) before only as in game value that allows you to upgrade yourself. Now we have: BP, XP, G-coin, scraps, artisan token, polymers, schematics, craft credits, coupons from which you have to collect tons to do something noticeable.

[@Ocelot_5]

the schematics just need to drop more often. I have the Tiger Kar98k. After 1500 Hrs gaming its on lvl 4 and Ive spend at least 300 in total. There you have it. I didnt upgrade anything else so I got like 10 schematics in total. Just whould like to have it on lvl 7 but its 15 more schematics and this is never goining to happen... which is sad never beeing able to finish at least on one, my favorite skin. Dont forget all the "coupons" I spend on it. They have to change at least a little bit so you get get at least to the mid of the upgrades

[@JoosBert]

I totally agree with you as well. In Belgium there were a lot of changes concerning online gaming/gambling a few years ago. Since you said that the pubg system looks a bit like gambling, well our gouvernement took it serious. For instance we cannot buy the seasons pass anymore because... of online gambling issues... I might be able to, if I would use a VPN connection and buy the pass elsewere, but not into that so no seasons pass for me anymore. I do like the progression system like for instance COD where when you play a lot or get a lot of kills with certain guns you get different optics/camo's. Myself I've been playing pubg since the beginning and for sure I don't have a lot of skins for all sorts (vehicules, parachutes, weapon skins, etc....) Nonetheless we still get to buy crates with our earned BP points to get "always the same camo's...pfff" It would be better if pubf would listen to the community and make its reward system so that you get a different camo or upgrade every time. People who play the game after all these years can be rewarded in a different way then to receive the same camo's over and over again... Keep up the good work and love your streams !!

[@SKEAPR]

Honestly the 'golden kar' idea was all what i want to have in the game, just like how cod is with its mystery camos

[@everyone1813]

I remember when these progressive skins got added to mobile, they gave kill animations and kill feed effects and you could only buy them or get them from crates if very lucky

[@SaxonRanger94]

I think this video was a good idea, it should be discussed, and I agree with pretty much everything thing you said. Also I’ve heard some criticisms of you by people thinking you were promoting gambling, so it’s good that you clarified your opinions on it. Lowering the prices is good, I’d say max amount spent on a skin should be around $300 and maybe $100 to get about halfway. Making it 18 and over to open crates is unrealistic and easy for kids to just enter their parents credit card, as this is the usual form of age verification. We already have enough cyber surveillance and data collection/privacy violations so they definitely should not do something like irl ID being attached to the game account, but they shouldn’t throw out the whole system. Bringing the prices down and adding a free system to the weapon mastery would be great.

[@Arhey]

I would prefer progressive skins being modular. So you can choose what part of the skin you get, without going to level 5 for example just to unlock 1 feature you like.

[@samplayinggames7978]

Thanks for tackling a very sensitive but important issue. I am a parent of 3, so I am somewhat biased. The one thing that kept me in PUBG all these years, is that I am drawn to the game itself, not due to some shady practices to keep players playing (time intensive progression systems and such). I have nothing against a non time intensive ranking system. But invested time should not be a factor in ranking. The same applies to money making. A game developer should make money through delivering a good product (the game itself and cosmetics like PUBG). Once they try making money through other means (practices aimed at forcing money from players like gambling crates), I draw a hard line.

[@MemeticsX]

I appreciate the frank discussion and the effort to avoid and identify your bias. I think PUBG skins could be less expensive, but I support the business's right to set its prices and determine how to maximize its profits. If the price is too high for most of us, we should vote with our dollars and not buy. We also need to teach our kids good money management skills and keep them away from addictive things like online gambling systems and credit cards until they're mature enough to manage their money wisely. it is fun to open crates and get lucky. It's also good that PUBG doesn't allow resale of the skins you can acquire through real money.

[@shogunzoro3929]

I think it'd be better if you had to roll the skin out of the crate at high rarity, like it is now, but after you get the skin the upgrade levels can be completed with missions, BP, and G-coin, rather than needing to open more crates, so that people who want to just spend money can, and those who want to play the game cheap can also, while still having the enjoyment of rolling rare and cool skins

[@nozziog]

Man, you are the best! finally someone talking about this ❤

[@pasankulasinghe3444]

Man, I love this father, I am a father of a 3yr old Daughter.and as a father you really care about your kid and Other kids..GG wacky, love u.

[@OltzUU]

I very much agree with your take on the upgrade system being a great idea that should be tied with the mastery more. However, I'd say that 400 is still way too far on the expensive side. Each to our own opinions of course - we all have our own situations in life. I also really like the loot box system, having a chance of hitting something "big". However, I absolutely don't want any part of the boxes themselves to be linked with money: no keys to open them, and no purchasing them from the developer or from other players (see CS:GO crate market.) In my opinion, the best possible solution is to have multiple methods of obtaining the boxes, e.g. the boxes drop randomly, or you can grind some form of missions for them. Maybe get a box for every Dinner, while being in say top 4 gives your a decreasing chance of obtaining one. This gives the dopamine hit when getting the box through luck, when you finish grinding for the next box, and when opening the box. But then you also have everything in the boxes purchasable directly, with reasonably tiered prices. This levels the playing field, giving everyone a chance to access the same skins. To combat the amount of too many items to drop, the items would be distributed into different sets (again, see CS:GO crates.) However, the "boxes" would be received as a generic item that you as a player can transform into something else with a more specific loot table. This would allow trying to farm for a specific rare drop more effectively than having all of them in the same loot pool.

[@PlayerNate]

Really enjoyed this one. Love to watch you on the BATTLEFIELD and borrow from your technique but also like hearing your take on the game. Keep up the good work 👏

[@danbrooks275]

Been playing since launch, ~4k hours. Haven't bought a single crate. True, it's not insanely expensive to buy one for the progressive skins but for $1700 I can buy 30+ triple A titles. Opportunity cost, folks. Also, thanks wacky. Always appreciate your quality content.

[@ChristiaensStefaan]

Living in Belgium, this is a non question for me. We simply don't have access to buy crates in PUBG, nor even the possibility to buy the season pass. We do get the option to open archivist and hunter crates, unlock weapons with BP, but not with real money. I think this is a good thing. If I would like to get lucky, gamble or something alike with money, I would do this in a (online) casino. A place, specifically designed for these kind of things.

[@ivang5874]

side note on in game currency as a phenomenon. i recently watched a cold fusion video about starbucks reward system. fascinating stuff. basically by putting money in their account you’re giving them a zero % loan which they then invest without your direct knowledge and are basically functioning like a bank. a lot of others have already jumped on this and perhaps video games are in it as well through in game currency. regarding the ethical side of this, there has to be government regulation in the space, because the temptation to exploit gamblers is not something most businesses are going to pass on. there’s a legal age for gambling and this system should be recognized as such. because it is. adult gamblers are going to gamble but assisting them in that is cynical and your brand reputation isn’t going to be good if you care about that… but i guess its pubg and perhaps they know that their reputation can’t sink much lower. my 2 cents

[@Meneerification]

Here in the Netherlands some gambling elements of the game are blocked. We cannot but season passes for example. Also, stuff in pubg seems to be a matter of luck. But the thing is that pubg can program is however they want and make it come across as if its luck.

[@tam310]

I feel like a dinosaur, never bought a skin or anything cosmetic in any game ever. I simply don’t get the point of it but each to their own. The guy in the default grey t-shirt and grey trousers you have been killing all these years on PlayStation is probably me 😀 And as an aside Wacky, I was playing duos last week and was in the later circles when had to join a work call so was finishing the round without sound and got a kill. That’s my claim to find now after your no sound video 😂

[@ObadiahTurk]

Dang, I like this guy. He is the most liveable PUBG content creator!

[@hulkaxmaniac]

@WackyJacky101 I agree on every word you say on this issue. Just need to make it easier unlock to extra stuff with the progress skins. Would be cool to try and get 500 headshots to unlock a coloured scope it would keep people playing the game. If they loosen the rate on getting the skins I think PUBG would make more money easy maths if you ask me. Love the video love content and your skin bundle is awesome too.

[@Znipolo]

I've been playing pubg since 2017, about 3000 hours now. i usually buy the season passes because i think it's ok to spend money on something i enjoy in my free time. i only buy crates with ingame currency and i would never think of spending real money on cosmetic items, this is stupid. So far I've had one progressive skin (Kar98) in a crate, which I think is OK, and I was happy about that too. Basically, I think gambling in games is wrong, because I actually know some younger people who have spent so much money. I'm pretty sure they weren't really aware of their actions.

[@Chris_Izee]

I’m with you here, the skins are cool but also purely cosmetic if people want to use their money on that then that’s fair game I just think there should be a reasonable display of estimated cost somewhere in the menu so people know what to expect and can make an educated decision

[@littlebeast9015]

i stopped upgrading my 2 skin, it cost alot specially from where im from :(

[@chrislao180]

I just use the coupons you get to open some crates. The only time i spent money on pubg apart from buying it, was for the battlepass with the Mclaren in it and that were 10 Euros.

[@THIRDRATEPRODUCTIONS]

Nice one for pointing out this issue. They have listened to you in the past hopefully they implement some positive changes based off of this video. The line btw is definitely far behind getting to open 20 crates (10 @ time) with $50. it's too much.

[@tomgillotti]

I agree with your thoughts on parental responsibility. Parenting isn’t a passive activity.

[@mohamaedkilany5976]

One of the best video related to gaming world and you have a nice idea to protect players and underage players specifically, Thank you Wacky Jacky

[@playbabethebookshelf6249]

guarantee reward is probably one of the best solutions for loot box. or increasing in chance, or both.

[@WackyJacky101]

There is a built in guaranteed chance as you accumulate 10 scraps per crate you open and a progressive skin can be bought for 3000 scrap! Obviously this is still too pricey

[@jjjacer]

while i dont mind crates as it is a good way to gain some extra revenue i do wish some skins could just be earned with playtime, ive opened tons of crates since 2017, and have not gotten a single skin i liked, eventually i ended up just getting gcoin and paying for skins (WackyJacky101 VSS, TieDye Glider, and sped up progression to get the McClarren base skin although was too slow to upgrade it), right now saveing BP for the mafia car skin although at my rate it will probably disappear before i have enough BP (although PUBG refunded me like 80,000BP for some reason). Although PUBG IIRC still has actually ability to buy crates/keys from marketplace just like CSGO (although its been a while since ive checked it), i remember back when clothes was on the ground the two most expensive skins usually where the black trenchcoat and the skirts

[@ManpreetSingh-ys4gw]

agreed with your thoughts on this, i think it is more important to create a culture for this, for example as a parent you are supposed to teach your kid as much as possible, where he should spend money or not or when and how much he can do all these gambling part. banning everything is not the great idea ( which indian gov doing now a days ), see as an adult i still dont spend money online gaming, but i play sometimes poker or fantasy sports but i know my limits and i have certain borders which i never cross. still tough question not easy to answer, but should be discussed more and we will someday will reach to better conclusion.

[@AimRobot]

I dont buy skins because I think its up to people to learn to say no or yes if they want them at stupid prices. However I hate when skins have a small improvement on your game, for example I always equip the smallest skins, so less is blocked my view when I play and in some games skins comes with different shooting sounds. So you can get weapons that makes less noise, helping you hear enemy footsteps while shooting. Problem with skins in games is that the priority for income often changes. 15+ years ago your profit went up by making your game the best and keeping it there and companies that made bad games got filtered out, because their sales didnt last for years. Now many bad game creators are saved by preorder and skin sale first few months of hype, so even if it fails they still come out a winner and continue.

[@TwoSwordSamurai]

In general, we should draw the line when a behavior becomes harmful. If you play video games to the detriment of your health or other aspects of your life, then you're probably addicted to the video games and need to tone it down. However, a major issue here is that it's not often easy to identify that you're addicted until it's too late; like all those kids who died in internet cafes after binge gaming. Furthermore, there is little to no help for this kind of addiction treatment or mental health in the US, and while most of the rest of the world is more civilized in this regard they could probably do a bit better as well. If you spend enough money on a video game that it affects your finances and your ability to do what you want to do in life, then you're probably addicted to gambling and need to tone it down. Unfortunately, not only is it often difficulty to get treatment for a gambling addiction, but there's no method for debt forgiveness if you accrue a bunch of gambling debt . . . even if the party responsible for tricking you out of your money did so unethically. If you perform a behavior that will cause you to become a degenerate gambler and rack up a pile of debt that you will not be able to pay off, then you are going to become addicted to gambling in the future and need to quit before you become addicted. The caveat here is that the responsibility lies with the developers of the game to keep underage players from ruining their lives in the future. If the game has no systematic method for keeping underage players from playing the game, then they are legally at fault for forcing kids to gamble. Parents cannot always keep their kids from playing free-to-play video games like PUBG or CS:GO, especially when there is no effective method for keeping underage players out of the player base. Just think about all the stuff you got away with as a kid. Also, $400 for a cosmetic skin in a free-to-play video game is just nuts. XD Much less $1,700. It's obviously a shameless cash grab by the developers. Worse yet, the sheer number of "hackers" (who are actually just script kiddies) that don't get banned because they spend a ton on G-Coin is testament that the developers don't care about us; they only care about the bottom line. The bottom line is that we need a complete revolutionization of our legal and financial systems. If corporate interests are left unchecked to make money the best they can without being held criminally accountable for the ills they inflict on society . . . well, that's how we find ourselves in the midst of a global warming crisis with oceans and water tables full of microplastics.

[@aitoluxd]

I don't think this is going to change anything. Every other studio, game devs are doing it and it's bringing in the money. Sorry guys, this model of monetisation is here to stay until of course something better/worse comes along.

[@Alaeen420]

I started playing pubg in 2017, I've never used money to open crates in pubg or cs. tbh i never thought that opening crates is some sort of gambling but now that you mentioned it, i can see the bigger picture. If everyone followed the book, we wont need laws to protect our children, lot of things are Haram/Forbidden for a reason .Alhamdolillah

[@antoniohagopian213]

There is way too many beryl skins. Used to be too many m4. They spam a single weapon for way too long then they do it again with another one. Way too many kar98k skins, barely 2 or 3 mosin nagant skins for exemple.

[@kuuvene8659]

Getting progressive skins seems almoust impossible if you are a free to play player, I've never got one, and I've played for a few years now. I think there should be a different levels of crates, where you'd have a higher change of getting certain items. They would of course cost you more. For example, adding a crate, that you have a 10% change of getting a progressive skin would cost like 200 coupons to unlock. That would make the progressive skins more realistic to get for ftp players also.

[@TheRealGras]

I got the Progressive Aug opening with only coupons, and recently got one of the colored smoke launchers with a coupon opening, gotten 3 Epic tier Battlestat skins, all without spending real money.

[@ThatManMelvin]

I mean it's bad enough that in The Netherlands it is not possible to open crates, aside from the tickets. Not even the artisan crates can be opened. Not even the season pass at this point can be bought. I am fine with the game having some of these features, but i agree we also could use some more oldschool free progression for skins. Like the old school COD camo challenges.

[@yodaspadawan6085]

with the current Upgrade System i'll never be able to get my 2 Progressive Skins to Max Lvl ☹

[@verticagg2840]

$400 is two weeks of fucking groceries. FUCK paying for skins. I had no idea a fully upgraded progressive skin is nearly TWO FUCKING THOUSAND. Elitist, classism, absolutely repels me from engaging with any part of it. Well said about the exposure to gambling that developers PUSH on kids. Watch People Make Game's series about Valve and Loot Crates. Enough said.

[@nilsnilsnils7687]

I think a mission system would be good , for example u pay 50-100 euro for the skin, the levels where the look of the gun changes and the killcounter and the rest should be able to get for missions for example: Play the vertical grip with that gun and get 150 kills with it and u get the skin for that grip. Or get 100 head shots with the 8 time on kar98k and the 8x will be gold then. Kind of hard missions u have to play to get each attachment modified, that would also be a cool way that us as players getting challenged to use all attachments for that gun u have the progressiv skin for. Thats how i would make it and like it in a game.

[@ionutghiordunescu9714]

Hello WackyJacky101, I've experienced some video games and I came to the conclusion that PUBG, particularly, is below the average line when it comes to gambling and pay to win. It exists mobile games that ask for much more money than PUBG, like $500k or even more. They use psychological tricks to make you pay, and make you addicted. I put PUBG in top 10% of serious video games. The solution for this problem isn't easy to find, but together I believe we can solve it. I'm glad to see that you address this problem and hope that more will follow!

[@Z4CH4]

All types of skins should be made tradable between the game's players without the involvement of money. Not just tradable also be able to be repurposed or exchanged for bp or g-coin. There is absolutely no use of getting skins that a player doesn't like & probably will never use it but stays in the inventory without any purpose cos there is simply no way of getting rid of it. Doesn't have to have ridiculous value of exchange etc but be made disposable if its not needed. Its gonna add more fun & excitement

[@rondoespsych5901]

Also you are supposed to get "scrap" for opening containers, but I just found out recently the reason I NEVER received any is because you only received scrap if the crate tickets were purchased not received via BP 🤨

[@TheRealGras]

I managed to get the progressive AUG using the free coupons to open the crates, but I'll never upgrade it since I won't spend any real money on skins in PUBG since they are not marketable or tradeable.

[@TwisterSinister]

As usual great analitycs!

[@wizardin9365]

That's why I love WackyJacky. It's not just his entertaining gameplay. He's so self-aware. He also has a lot of empathy, even to the players he kills in-game. It's awesome to see a gamer who's mature and well natured. No toxicity at all.

[@guntern5098]

This was an extremely good video. I totally agree. Any form of Addiction is really horrible and can literally destroy lives. Just saying from a personal point of view. One unnamed MMORPG literally took over my life for 10 years and all i ended up with is some Characters with over 1000 days playtime and a destroyed personal life. There should be limits and I feel PAY to Win should be removed completely. People should enjoy the game for what it is.

[@coregrimace]

Gaming corps will squeeze everything from you until appropriate regulations will not take place. Before that i would advice parents to stay vigilant and put limits to your bank cards if oyu know that your son / daugher will be willing to spend money in the game. I open crates here and there, but i'm old enough to know that this will not change my game play, nor i will be better in the game, and therefore i find these skins useless. Looking at all the free skins I have I could not find any reasons to stack even more pixels... What is angering me though is that if you play with a "stock" skins and you do have enough hours in the game to not be a noob, you will be reported more often as a cheater..

[@allexioze505]

I think it is important to highlight that in-game purchases also contributes to making the game free, have better development and accessible to people without the buying power for a $100 game

[@VikeDX]

What game is $100?

[@Warmiice]

this company is greedy as hell. in most of the royal battles, the money spent on the battle pass can be returned if you complete it, but not in PUBG. The opening of 10 boxes of contraband at once for coupons was removed, because donate or get shit. Even the hunter's crates were nerfed, where duplicates did NOT initially drop if a similar imprint of the item had already dropped out. now mostly rubbish is falling out that is already in the prints and even scribbled. everything leads to aggressive donation if you want something better than blue quality

[@NumberedJester]

Having seen at first hand the damage gambling can do through a family friend, I was disgusted with PUBG for brining the progressive gambling mechanic in. Before that, I happly bought multiple skins and season passes across 3 platforms. They should sell the base skin as a 'Premium Skin' for £10-£15 max. Then have 'upgrade tokens' based on playtime/wins/kills/season pass unlocks. But they wont, because they have succumbed to the greed and praying on people. The progressive skin is the main reason i no longer support or play the game. I'm not angry at PUBG, I'm just disappointed.

[@azura_playz]

The Aston Martin car skin collection just came out in PUBGM and the masterpiece (or the most good looking skin amongst the collection with the most flex) costs 22500$ by itself😂 We all know that it's natural for the game devs to keep these stuff in game for obvious reasons. This won't change.

[@aLiepotpot999]

I would have never played PUBG: Battlegrounds if it did not became F2P Simply means, I have not spend any currency in the game, so I cannot relate to those who does a lot Just here to put in my comment. Thanks ✌

[@bluzgrasu9352]

It is the same as CSGO i have spent in csgo over 7000 pounds and nothing ( no knife opend) , on pubg i have spent until now on both of my account over 2000 pounds . And my opinion the gambling is very addictive. For me shoud be added an option on steam to be added like a spending limit for monthly.

[@fasthandsjop]

i think it would be so much better if they made it if you unboxed the skin it would progress 1 level every 100 kills with said weapon giving you a incentive to play. not only that if you see it in the kill feed you’d be worried or if you found it on someone’s person you’d have a sense of achievement if that makes sense