Game Of Thrones 6x9 Reaction!! "Battle of the Bastards"

[@Belladonna313]

The shield Jon used to protect himself from Ramseys arrows was from house Mormont Lady Mormont was right, her men fight with the strength of 10 men 😂

[@judson9223]

Seeing a segment titled 'argument' YET AGAIN made me choke on water laughing.

[@penguincgm489]

Ramsey's death is very satisfied for me. Loving Sansa's smile on her way out!

[@jeffgoldb0ob]

I get Igli's thoughts about sansa possibly being pregnant, a lot of people thought that when ramsey says 'im part of you now' and she comes back with 'your line will disappear'

[@kobarsos82]

It actually makes a hell lot of sense. He did rape her numerous times at nights, in fact it would only make sense for her to be pregnant. They didn't have ways to prevent it back in the day.

[@bluegypsy71]

Blake and Igli give off old married couple vibes😂😂😂

[@skylarjeselnik]

Will always give me chills 21:56 one of the best scenes of GoT

[@TheRibottoStudios]

That was a REAL calvary charge too!

[@marjofrance83]

Same here, and the music.....Wonderful

[@Blinkptx]

One of the best episodes of anything ever.

[@Will_3000]

18:13 - Corey relaying a thousand thoughts and emotions with his eyes in under 2 seconds, very impressive 👏 💙

[@anelsatxlife]

Sansa saved them really not Littlefinger . My girl learned her lessons well and is now playing the violin like a master.

[@YtuMamaTambien22]

6x10 IS, The best episode of all Game of Thrones.

[@VolguusZildrohar]

30:38 The sigil of House Mormont, literally the shield that guards the realms of men.

[@forthemonkeys6427]

It also means that even though Lyanna could only afford 62 men to Jon, one of them made it into Winterfell. Brings a tear to my eye.

[@nofil2000]

You can’t breathe seeing Jon trying to breathe

[@ShittyShittyGameGang]

Yes! Those shots were so claustrophobic. So well done.

[@northwest1972]

Damn yesss, every f*cking time..

[@raelshodges8949]

One of my fave moments in this ep is Jon Tormund and Wun Wun running towards Winterfell.

[@amurderofbananas7449]

Just a small clarification, since Jon Arryn was hand to Robert, the Knights of the Vale likely fought during the Greyjoy rebellion.

[@mahmoh1305]

I'm glad sansa didn't tell him, that's why ramsay's trap got destroyed from the outside by the Knights of the Vale. if she had told jon, he would have made a different plan and Ramsay would have been able to either match Jon's army in the field or planned for a siege. the element of surprise was necessary here and Sansa didn't trust anyone with the plan and carried it herself. also she didn't trust Baelish to actually show up, not to mention Jon disregarded her opinion about battle at every point, what guarantee was there he would have listened to her if she told him?

[@loftypenalty91]

Iwan Rheon the actor that played as Ramsay did an absolutely fantastic job with this role. It takes incredible talent to make a character that detestable and easy to hate, just a fantastic actor and performance.

[@ashleydixon4613]

And he straight up LOOKS unhinged, too. In this role at least, he’s just creepy-looking.

[@LadySophiaVelaryon]

The glee I felt as Ramsey was being munched was priceless.

[@jeffbachman2949]

Apparently, Kit Harrington, by accident, actually punched Iwan in the face in one of the takes, and it's left in.

[@bellablaze8202]

Jon Snow punched him 21 times

[@TerrorOfTheTrident]

can’t wait to see 6x10 next week, the music in that episode is PHENOMENAL! also speaking of the highest rated episodes, i saw 2x4 of Hotd made it into the top 10 of got/hotd all time ⚔️

[@morpheusjones4753]

Sansa being preggo would have been a pretty decent plot twist.

[@HaraQuinn]

the insane dedication of Blake's trolling Igli literally every episode, nonstop, is borderline it's own GoT meta universe along Varys and Littlefinger. lol I'm a genuine fan of the bit.

[@shercahn]

Corey just laughing and enjoying "The Argument".

[@Amy46032]

Yes!!! I’ve been so excited for Igli to get to this episode. Great reaction!

[@omarkarimzada9529]

2:40 uh oh mom and dad are fighting again

[@jorgecedenoperiodista2626]

The argue at The begining 😂

[@dragontamer626]

Fun fact #1: Kit Harrington said his worst fear is being crushed by others and can’t think of a worse way to die- so of course the show runners used that real phobia to make his acting as real as possible. #2: he actually punched Iwan twice in that scene where he was beating up Ramsey. He felt so bad he bought him a drink later that day to make up for it!

[@KelliFranklin]

Still one of the best episodes of any TV show ever.

[@Square-ow7oq]

It wasn't even the best episode on the show

[@KelliFranklin]

@@Square-ow7oq I said one of the best episodes. I didn't say the best.

[@omarkarimzada9529]

This episode definitely was a great example of how the lord of light chose Jon because there’s no other way he would survive that.

[@SafetyinNumbers5628]

And…damn it…I have an ad! Lmao! Thks for that!

[@panpacifice]

I don’t understand the hate on Sansa. She pulls up and saves the day, she’s my absolute favorite character in the show. Her victories feel very earned.

[@mamaseesa3122]

I'm pretty sure it's people that hated her at the beginning (when she was an annoying teenage brat) and those people don't like change, so they still hate her. I think she's awesome. She is my second favorite character after Theon.

[@entinakicks]

I actually liked Sansa, but this is the episode that soured me on her a bit. I wished they wrote her "win" here more intelligently instead of having her make a senseless decision in order to force an artificial victory. Honestly, a lot of people died needlessly and Jon almost died because Sansa didn't tell him about the Knights of the Vale. I'm not saying Jon didn't make a dumb decision but it felt in character for him. Sansa knows how smaller mistakes her father, mother, and brother made resulted in their deaths, so her withholding information from Jon on a matter of life and death was silly if not unbelievable to me. For her to then simultaneously berate him for not asking her thoughts in such a sanctimonious manner was irksome. I do think her final scene with Ramsey was fitting and showed growth. I'm not in any way hating on you for liking Sansa here. Opinions are opinions. I'm just sharing my own because it may add some insight as to why some people take issue with her character.

[@KJPomftet]

The issue is her letting Jon go into battle against Ramsey with his army and letting him get seconds away from complete destruction….then showing up to save them. She could have just told Jon the Vale was coming and saved a ton of soldiers. If it was so Ramsey would come out and attack, then she still should have told them they were coming cause he could have planned better and save more soldiers. She just kept everything a secret, let all those soldiers die, then took the credit for the win and no blame for all the Wildlings and Northerners who died needlessly

[@gunkulator1]

@@KJPomftet Well, no. The issue is Jon acting foolishly and charging in without thinking. That is the one and only reason his army loses too many men. Jon's idiocy. Note he would have acted the same reckless way even if he did know about the knights of the Vale. Jon ignores all the plans he made with Davos and Tormund and comes close to dooming his entire army. Sansa was worried that Jon would be a poor leader so she does not tell him. Sansa was right.

[@lpycb42]

@@KJPomftet Did you not re-watch the episode? She literally tells him to hold off and not play into Ramsay’s games until they have enough men and he did what he did. It was not her fault that the army wasn’t ready until that moment. It’s not like she watched them get owned and then intervened.

[@2300nobody]

When Ser Davos charged into battle I was hype as shit but when the Vale arrived I lost my mind.. I always wished I coulda been the flag bearer charging into battle that shit was epic

[@shania991]

One of the best episodes ever Jon snow beating Ramsay will forever be satisfying it’s up there with Joffery being poisoned. I don’t know why but Tormund saying “don’t” always gets me mainly because, he knows Jon’s next move he just doesn’t know if they’ll make it in time my anxiety why high watching him get trampled. Random: I was watching battle of the bastards and my brother was playing whatever on his ps4 (I’m in the part before the battle Jon is trying to reach his brother, Ramsey is shooting arrows) and all I hear from my right side is “HARRY RUN HARRY” in a British accent and I’m like “bro completely wrong movies, characters, and genre” 😂😂

[@jeto3557]

Lol 😂 ❤y’all reactions. The fighting lol 😂

[@orphanedhanyou]

What else was Jon to do once they released the arrows? Try to go back to escape them? Try to go forward? Because Sansa didn't want to be honest and tell him she was closer to Lightfinger than she let on & tell Jon she sent a raven to see if he would come Jon could have waited a day vs just go into battle because no one else was coming to help (and I think he would have worked with Littlefinger even if he sold Sansa to Ramsey if it meant increasingly the chances of saving Rickon exec a little. He would deal with him after).

[@gunkulator1]

The entire purpose of his small army was to lure Ramsey's army out of his superior defensive position behind the walls of Winterfell. Only then could the knights of the Vale sweep through and defeat Ramsey. LF's army wins the battle. Jon's army is just the decoy. If LF and Jon join forces first, Ramsey stays put and there's no battle at all, or at least no battle LF and Jon can win since they have no means to besiege Winterfell. The winning plan depended on Jon being weak to convince Ramsey that he had an easy victory at hand. Jon is just a pawn in the plan and that's why Sansa doesn't tell him about LF.

[@levilevi9621]

Melisandre wasn’t always a realist. She became like that after she was humbled by her experience with Stannis. Igli’s hate of her was justified up to that point.

[@ganjahiwalker2641]

First time I watched this episode, at the end when Ramsey tells Sansa “I’m part of you now” I also thought she might have been pregnant.

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

How is it possible for a mountain of bodies to form like that, and Sansa was crazy for not telling John The Vale were coming

[@janeathome6643]

All the arrows taking out men and horses (it really happened in history), but totally agree about Sansa.

[@Rash23215]

​@@starsimvidz lol.... she really explains why she didn't tell and it's a legit reasonable explanation for that.... i mean u incels anyway hate her for existing so it doesn't matter

[@bluegypsy71]

😏Frankly, I'm here for the Sansa hate, all day every day, bc...I hate Sansa...ten years later, did I tell you how much I hate Sansa?

[@twentytwo3052]

​@@starsimvidz bro are you even watching the reactions or are you slow??? the entire reason she dosent tell john or want help from the knights of the vale is beacuse little finger who is lord of vale is the one who sold her off to ramsy in the fist place... maybe you have short term memory or a mental capacity issue so here is the last time sansa and little finger spoke before this episode so you can remind youself of the context. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqLJo3h4equFg5o ; i dont know what part of "go back to maot cailin, MY BOTHER AND I WILL TAKE BACK THE NORTH ON OUR OWN, I NEVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN" you didnt understand but it has nothing to do with the script writers. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@twentytwo3052]

@@starsimvidz also its pretty obvious u mastered the tier 1 game of throne book purist yapper rehtoric from reddit or youtube (alt shwift x, etc). but you cant understand why sansa only accepted the help of her manipulative trafficer as a last resort after that conversation with out telling jon why? opposed to what? tell jon all the history with little finger and jon would just want to kill him too? unless the script writers should of wrote the one scario that makes you happy where she only tells him the info you want him to know in character. and then it will make sense??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@beautybysaranwrap]

IM TIRED OF THE JON SNOW DISRESPECT 😭💔 my goat forever

[@Square-ow7oq]

He is really stupid. Even the actor admit it lmao

[@janeathome6643]

I think Melisandre lacked self-doubt before, but she screwed up with Stannis (though the Night's Watch needed Stannis to be in the North to save them from Mance's army, so the Lord works in mysterious ways) and now she finally admits to knowing what she doesn't know. She does, however, seem to realize/believe that some of her visions that she assigned to Stannis are now applicable to Jon. Jon riding into the arrows is like swimming into waves at the ocean. If you try to go back, the waves will wipe you out, but if you dash forward, you can swim through the curl and the injurious breaks will crash behind you. He effed up trying to save his baby brother (totally understandable), but he would have been killed if he attempted to turn around and ride back. He rode under the arc of the arrows instead of remaining within range of of the points. He was illogical not giving up on his brother, but it was logical to go forward once he had exposed himself.

[@EliWilson14]

Woowoo !!!!!!! This is some of the best cinema ever. Amazing episode, the next one is much better. ;)

[@smilingphoenix]

Amazing episode, I only started your GoT reaction couple weeks ago, glad I caught up.

[@lilbitx496]

19:01 I’m pretty sure the giant with the bow died during the battle at Castle Black

[@neutchain7838]

As much as I love Caraxes, Drogon is one mean motherfucker. That whole sequence in Mareen is pretty much perfect. Despite the obvious stuff in the episode ( pretty badass battle, great dialogues, great acting ) I really like the little things. The symbolism when Jon picks up that shield. It's a shield from Bear Island protecting him when he is walking up to Ramsey. Very satisfying ending to that guy, props to that actor he did an outstanding job with this role, absolutely comparable to Goffrey. Iconic from beginning to end. Loved how Sansa was starting to turn away when the hounds got started on Ramsey but she changes her mind, makes herself watch it, making sure the last thing she sees is Ramsey getting eaten by his own dogs. Overall really good stuff it deserves the high ratings, one of the highlights of the second half of the show.

[@ptolover7]

I've never seen so many Leroy Jenkins memes at one time as I did when this episode aired

[@anatos1722]

Jon best character definetly,this episode cements it,his whole story over 6 seasons is so well done,from a naive boy to King! Fought all his battles,always did the right thing never cared what happens next,Jon goated fr

[@Sgarlaid]

How do people not see that John had no choice but to charge in? Ramsey was reigning arrows down on him! And Blake, calm the fuck down ☀️

[@Square-ow7oq]

So, going forward, saves him from the arrows but not going back?

[@Katshing_Khan]

@@Square-ow7oq yes

[@RaggedyPack]

No

[@mahmoh1305]

jesus another heart eyed simpleton for Jon who wouldn't apply logic

[@Sgarlaid]

@@mahmoh1305 Think you’re confused, I applied logic. You are appear to be lacking it

[@mns2137]

I don’t even like the later seasons but Blake getting pissed is so entertaining I love it ❤

[@supastar6626]

Hahahahaa ima finish up your recap of this episode 😂

[@eibbor171]

had they made a shied and cub out of trees for wun wun that battle would've been entirely different hate how they nerfed him

[@Aaron-fs1vz]

Gather the knights of the vale the rime has come to join the frey

[@deeptanuj6249]

That was KARSTARK whom Tormund killed

[@brittanygidley1291]

i love jon and theon. poor horses 🥺 i understand how jon feels seeing his brother get shot with the arrow, it’s a normal reaction. plus why didn’t sansa tell jon about what she was going to do? like girl you not about to just take credit line that. plus even if he zig zagged he would of gotten hit with the arrow still cause ramsey is good at shooting arrows. ramsey was messing with him doing that on purpose. this is one of the best episodes and battle. the fact that most of it was in one shot. ramsey doesn’t care about his own people dying with their arrows either i can’t wait for my mom to watch the battle scene. she’s on season 5 episode 6.

[@gunkulator1]

Sansa doesn't tell Jon because Jon's army is just the decoy to lure Ramsey out from behind the walls of Winterfell. The knights of the Vale win the battle but they only do so if Ramsey has already committed his troops to fight out in the open and he's only going to do that if he believes he has an easy victory. LF and Jon don't have near enough men and equipment to besiege Winterfell.

[@KerryFP]

Sorry, but I never liked Sansa. I felt sorry for her, but she's always about herself only. She is not strategic, she didn't use Jon's army as a decoy. She did not win that battle. Had she told Jon about the Vale, they could've had a different plan and so many of Jon's army wouldn't be dead

[@gunkulator1]

@@KerryFP Ok then, what is the better plan for defeating Ramsey's larger army that holds a superior logistical and defensive position inside Winterfell? This isn't the MCU where a superhero arrives to save the day.

[@deonjames1041]

The Knights of the Vale riding in looks really cool but as far as show logic is concerned…an army that size can’t just move into the North, Garrison at Moat Cailin for weeks then travel all the way to Winterfell without the Boltons knowing.

[@seanmills7586]

why the show wasnt as good in later seasons. quality really dropped

[@gunkulator1]

How would they know? What moves faster than a horse in this world? You could say a raven but they are very unreliable plus a) you can simply shoot them down and b) it's easy to send your own ravens with false information. Did you also complain about 1) Robb's18000 men outflanking Tywin's in season 1 - yes Robb intercepted a scout but we're to believe the Lannister have only one scout and their whole battle plan hinges on his information? or 2) Tywin's army moving across the most populated part of Westeros and arriving at King's Landing without anyone knowing in season 2 or 3) 100,000 slow moving wildings surprising the Night's Watch in season 4 even though the NW has men called rangers whose only job it is to scout for wildlings. or 4) Stannis' large mounted army landing north of the wall and surprising Mance even though the wildlings have wargs looking through eagles' eyes who would have seen them many miles away.

[@WyattWhite-m3h]

lol "how did you get that she was pregnant?" was also my question🤣

[@Heather61776]

Let's effing go!!!!

[@drshrimps2424]

This episode is top 5 but 6x10 is top one

[@jeffbachman2949]

6x10 for me is one of the greatest episodes of TV I ever watched

[@JesusMartinez-ne1bm]

Igli, Strap In Bro Cause You’re In For A Crazy Ride From This Point On 😭

[@peterbefi5171]

Next episode is better.

[@twentytwo3052]

agreed

[@RavenG.est95]

No Dragon but Tormund. Yea... About equal damage.

[@bh4145]

So Jon fights a war - swinging a sword, gets buried under a bunch of guys - almost suffocates to death, runs a marathon to get into Winterfell, and then beats the hell out of Ramsey - while Ramsey never lifted a finger except the bow and arrow. The guy in the middle is utterly annoying!

[@andylikesstuffchannel]

Ha Ha Blake ripping big time 😂😂😂

[@phoenixrising8231]

Please post your behind the scene 6x9 reaction

[@adelinasardothien8238]

Will you guys react to interview with the vampire tv show? There’s 2 seasons out it’s very good

[@ToxicQueen94]

First off, the argument had me dying lol also I can't wait for 7x4, that's my favorite episode

[@just42day]

Sansa was right all along. Sansa proved to be a better leader than Jon Snow, FACTS🤷🏻‍♂️

[@randomname4726]

Sansa was awesome this episode but lots of people hate her, maybe because she's a woman.

[@kimbervoss3753]

P.S. Jon ran because of who he is!!

[@Square-ow7oq]

A m0ron?

[@kimbervoss3753]

@@Square-ow7oq 😂

[@mahmoh1305]

yes an idiot

[@sarajade5111]

Yesssss

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

9:02 I resent that remark😂 I defended you Blake ya jerk!

[@judson9223]

Blake better surprise Igli with something nice after this series ends.

[@RaggedyPack]

I’ll finish Elden ring with him finally

[@ChristopherZeta1999]

It's Called Plot Armor Baby!!! This man has super story Armor.

[@amanchikishorebabu8028]

Every hero has a plot armor. I don't know why it is even a discussion for hero to have plot armor.

[@gunkulator1]

@@amanchikishorebabu8028 Jon's not the hero here. LF and Sansa are. Their plan wins the battle. Jon's plan would have been ended in certain defeat.

[@redPGC]

if im not the biggest blake hater i gotta be the second

[@RaggedyPack]

That’s cool

[@jakefoster8308]

Sansa character ark is wild.

[@annmasalskaya6673]

Oh, I remember I was also so afraid that Sansa was pregnant

[@geetee4459]

At last!

[@TheBambinoitaliano]

Igli is not ready for this episode.

[@berlin990]

Are the history books going to have to rename this battle cause Jon was never a bastard..

[@Blinkptx]

Rickon left in season 3.

[@michaelcallaghan9320]

They weren't faster they left before Ramsey boy's

[@yomamma.ismydaddy216]

Igli is completely right about going in on Jon

[@kimbervoss3753]

Rickon/Asha leave 3x9

[@alexandref5100]

the next is better!

[@IanM92]

Never in a million years will this fan service ever appear in the books. It is not canon.

[@gunkulator1]

Never in a billion years will the books be finished.

[@Verdent777]

The guy on the left is just annoying!!

[@RaggedyPack]

Yeah he is! - guy on the left

[@Verdent777]

@@RaggedyPack hahaha Brilliant!!

[@infinitywardyeah1189]

GIF* Not JIF

[@deliafavara9470]

😻😻😻😻😻😻

[@ghz24]

What is the big deal about seeing the title of the episode? I think nost people saw the title before watching it. All it tells him is the battle he knows is coming will be this episode it's not really a spoiler, calm down your taking this way to serious.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Jon DID listen to Sansa. You so have to TRY to save your brother. And of the horrible hypothetical things, riding out to him was not the worst move.

[@Rash23215]

03:00 Lol.... the funny thing is those two are not even best episodes of their respective seasons let alone the whole GoT..... 5x8 and 6x10 are best episodes of the respective seasons....

[@judson9223]

I'm also confused about Blake's fondness for 5x07. It's a fine episode, but why would he or anyone single it out as one of the series' two strongest?

[@brandon9909]

5x7 is good but it’s not one of the top 5 episodes

[@JoaoBurgess]

A very good show and full of promises. It's such a sadness that HBO canceled it for this past 6th season.

[@justinsullivan8040]

Bro on the left is so annoying! Id honestly just rather watch the other two.

[@yomamma.ismydaddy216]

While it’s true they Jon was a complete fool, technically if Ramsey had known that they mode more men (the knights of the vale) he probably wouldn’t have come out to fight in the field, and would make Jon and forces lay siege to winterfell

[@gunkulator1]

Jon has no ability to besiege Winterfell. The mounted cavalry from the Vale would also be useless for this. And Winter really is coming almost immediately, meaning any siege is doomed to fail anyway.

[@yomamma.ismydaddy216]

@@gunkulator1 yeah I know that’s the point lol. Had Ramsey known that Jon had extra forces which made their numbers more even rather than 2:1 in Ramseys favor, than Ramsey would have kept his forces within winterfell and Jon would have been screwed

[@yomamma.ismydaddy216]

@@gunkulator1 so even though it was annoying that Sansa denied the help from the vale until last minute causing their forces to arrive after the battle was well on its way, it actually was the best outcome because it gave Ramsey a false sense of security and caused him to choose to have a battle in the field instead of keeping his forces within the castle and forcing Jon to either lay siege or to not even fight at all because and siege would be really the only option unless they tried to starve them out which would be a hopeless endeavor

[@gunkulator1]

@@yomamma.ismydaddy216 And siege in the North is impossible even in high Summer. The land is too barren to support a besieging army of any useful size and the distances are too great for supply lines from the South. Cersei explains this to Joffrey in Season 1. It's why the North had never been taken and held before. The King in the North only bent the knee one time and that was to the Targaryens because of their dragons.

[@entinakicks]

​@@gunkulator1yes but for those same reasons, there is no way Ramsey or Jon, would not have known an army as big as the Knights of the Vale were approaching Winterfell. Particularly since they had been encamped at Moat Cailin earlier. That's a long march with stretches of barren lands. Ramsey was well informed of Stannis' army who had the benefit of bypassing that march by using ships, but now no scouts were able to, at bare minimum, warn Ramsey to retreat because a huge cavalry was approaching the battlefield? It's silly. Not to say I don't enjoy the episode. It's shot beautifully. But I think it's okay to enjoy it and acknowledge that there was a lack of logic in the writing of the war tactics that exceeds reasonable suspension of disbelief made for the sake of creating high stakes tension and a Sansa saves the day moment. It is what it is.

[@aestheticxyz2409]

Im sorry but your simply just wrong blake😂saying episode 7 of season five is a top two episode is one of the wildest takes ive ever heard. Its not even on the same planet as season 6 episode 10 which is easily the best episode of the entire show. Season four laws of gods and men is easily better. Im just shocked cause i can list at least ten episodes of the top of my head better than season five episode 7😂 absolutely ubsurd. Hardhome is a better episode. Season 3 episode 9 is a better episode. I can keep going

[@RaggedyPack]

I assume Blake meant 5x8 since Hardhome is his favorite GOT episode right next to Battle of the Bastards -Corey

[@aestheticxyz2409]

@RaggedyPack okay😂 that makes a lot more sense I'm not normally one to comment over anything I was just shocked at the statement

[@aestheticxyz2409]

@RaggedyPack love your guys reactions btw I'm almost caught up to date

[@munchichi02]

Seeing Blake wound up vrs. Blake making faces. Which is more perfect? 😊

[@levilevi9621]

Its called the battle of the bastards and both Ramsay and Jon act like dumb bastards. Kinda the point

[@BigJoe6669]

Sansa made no sense and for fuck sake they could not even give the giant a club or something the last 3 season were poorly written ....

[@jeffbachman2949]

Have to disagree 5 and 6 have some of the greatest episodes of TV I ever watched and 6 is my favorite season

[@gunkulator1]

Let me help you out: Sansa lies to Jon by not telling him about LF and his army and then goads him into attacking Ramsey anyway. At the parley Ramsey gives an accurate account of Jon's troops and their makeup and confidently predicts victory. Clearly he has good intelligence about Jon from his spies. This has the effect Sansa wants which is getting Ramsey to abandon his superior defensive position behind the walls of Winterfell the next morning. Now that he's exposed, Sansa and LF spring their trap, which is the cavalry charge from the knights of the Vale. None of this works if Jon waits for the knights to arrive first because Ramsey then just stays put.

[@jeffbachman2949]

@gunkulator1 she also wasn't sure even if he would come. It was a bit of a hail Mary and to be fair to her she apologized the next episode to Jon for not telling him and says she doesn't trust Littlefinger

[@gunkulator1]

@@jeffbachman2949 Well, it's Littlefinger so you can't ne sure of anything when it's him but it was still a good calculated bet on the part of Sansa. First off, LF makes the long journey to meet with Sansa early in the season. Why do that at all unless he needed to plan something with her? If LF is really backing Rasmey, he doesn't have to do anything. Just wait around for Ramsey's larger army to march on Castle Black and overwhelm the wildings. Second, we know LF took a massive risk when he plotted to get rid of Joffrey. The Tyrells could have simply turned him in and then he's done. LF's reasoning for getting rid of Joffrey is that he's too sadistic and chaotic for LF to deal with for his ambitious plans. Ramsey represents the exact same problem and therefore also needs to be disposed of. Third, LF believes he has groomed Sansa much like he has groomed Robin Arryn. So he devises a plan that not only gets rid of Ramsey, but also has a high chance of getting rid of both Rickon and Jon, the last two real contenders to rule the North outside of Sansa. With Ramsey, Rickon and Jon gone, LF's protege, Sansa, gets to rule the North and LF is right there for a convenient marriage to Sansa too. So it's a pretty good bet LF acts to help Sansa because it is very much in his interest to do so.

[@lokiplays6868]

I just want to point this out to annoy everyone but it was impossible for Jon's army to reach him in time. There's no way Rickon ran faster than Jon on his horse so Jon would have had to get closer to Ramsey's army than his own. So maybe Igli is right and the good guys horses are just faster?

[@Ringking-ws7bz]

Thing is Sansa caused lots of deaths here because she didnt say Knight of The Vale could be an option. John asked her where else when he didnt think they had anymore men and she said nothing and i almost think she hoped he would die here in a way

[@cara2290]

Jon caused lots of deaths and their near demise by recklessly charging into the opposing army solo, forcing his men to sacrifice their advantage and their lives, to save his unworthy behind!

[@SimplymeSVEN18]

Because she didn't know if they actually were up until they arrived? You're aware they're commanded by Littlefinger, right? In other words, expect nothing until prooven otherwise.

[@gunkulator1]

Yes. This is Sansa's key moment where she shows she is willing to play the game for real. And that means a willingness to sacrifice. Not just Rickon, but also the wildling army and even Jon. The alternative is rule by Ramsey which is infinitely worse. Neither Ned nor Jon is capable of this, but Sansa is. Or she is now. What I find telling is that this is pretty much the same thing Robb Stark did in Season 1 and no one complains about it. Robb knowingly sacrifices 2000 north men to achieve a victory. He says a couple sad words about it and then that's the end of it. It's every bit as ruthless as this.

[@dwicahya]

Why is Blake so mean? Hot, but so so mean to the other nameless co-hosts.

[@jupiterrising887]

It's almost like looks count for nothing, in the end.

[@LuizVieiraPintoNeto]

Sansa betrayed jon by not warning him of the Arryn army. Jon is a capable comandar and tactitian. I love and hate this episode.

[@cara2290]

Jon is a capable commander and tactician? Where? Def not in this episode lol!

[@gunkulator1]

Lol, Jon a good commander? Not even close. He's a disaster here. Before that, his first major command was as lord commander of the Night's Watch and he botches it so badly his own men mutiny and have him killed.