Game Of Thrones 7x6 Reaction!! "Beyond the Wall"

[@AnnaB22]

The Daenerys Targaryen "Winter Collection" is absolutely FABULOUS!!! That white coat with that silver dragon chain. I would love to buy that somewhere. LOL.

[@mack_taylor]

They are auctioning off a bunch of GOT props and costumes. I haven't gone through it all yet and I doubt that fabulous coat is in the lot lol but there are a lot of Dany's dresses along with dresses from other characters like Sansa and Catelyn that I have seen so far.

[@pieceofdebri]

@@mack_taylor It's 100% there and the starting bid is $12,000.

[@mack_taylor]

@@pieceofdebri 😭

[@babybo331]

Jon trying to be a hero cost Dani a dragon! All he had to do was hop on Drogon but nooooo, he wanted to be a hero

[@judson9223]

Blake's eyes swelled with joy for a moment there when Igli accidentally said "my hunk" at 32:23. XD

[@judson9223]

The Igli/Blake dynamic has such similar energy to Tormund leering at Jon and calling him "my little crow".

[@ItsMeWendyvee]

Bonus Points for Corey's glorious mane making a rare appearance :)

[@duggs4456]

George RR Martin gave some distances early on in the books, but stopped and tended to use hyperbole/vague answers because, as he admits himself, he is absolutely appalling at judging how big things should be, how far things should be, even how old characters should be. He always makes buildings/landmarks way too big, characters way too young, and distances drastically too far for any of the things that exist and happen in the books to be realistic. There have been guesses that the Wall to King's Landing is anything from 700 miles to 4000 miles, and no answer really makes sense. The real landmarks they're based on, Hadrian's Wall and London, are about 320 miles apart, but Westeros is definitely meant to be bigger. And for what it's worth, a pigeon (in our world at least) can fly 600 miles in one flight, non stop, taking roughly 10 hours, which is crazy impressive.

[@bill.godwin-austen]

There were mentions that it took a month for King Robert's retinue to travel from King's Landing to Winterfell, and a few other times things like "a fortnight" were mentioned, but in the later seasons those little "throwaway lines" disappeared, so no context was given to how long it would actually take. Just because events took place in the same episode, or from one episode to the next, it doesn't mean they were happening "in real time"... without the context of those casually dropped lines, it's left to the imagination, and the imagination of the fanbase went the "Littlefinger's teleporter" route.

[@Bled420]

The dragon that died was Viserion, the smallest one

[@Bled420]

Jon saying “I’d bend the knee but..” is reminiscent of Ned in season 1. After Jamie’s man stabbed him in the leg, he woke to see Robert and Cersei and he said “Your Grace, I’d stand but..”

[@Bled420]

The bear is technically the second undead animal.. we have seen horses since season 2 Episode 10 when Sam saw them

[@penguincgm489]

The meme discussion is so funny🤣 Thank you for putting the meme here, I was going to find it after I finish this🤣

[@jeto3557]

Wonderful reactions gentlemen. ❤️💙🐾🦬😎

[@SnowDaemon]

"Waters" is the bastard name from Kings Landing and Dragonstone.

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

Don't you get tired of schooling Blake? 😅

[@schildkroete]

Yup, was gonna say this. "Waters" is the default name for bastards born in the Crownlands.

[@orphanedhanyou]

But Gendry Rivers sounds better? Plus he is an amalgamation of his bastard siblings in the book who had different surnames.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Yea D & D are not good students. lol

[@MrBalzJohnson]

Gendry doesn’t have a last name, Bastards only get them when they’re formally acknowledged as a lord’s bastard

[@dfcarvalho]

The bear wasn't the first animal wight. We see the white walkers ride undead horses all the time since season 2 i think.

[@siaahale13]

18:51 aww why do i kinda feel bad for the white walker😭 he looks so adorable and confused running around in circles with his wittle legs🥺🥺

[@orphanedhanyou]

Gendry is an amalgamation of several of Robert's bastards, think at least 3, possibly not all sharing the same bastard surnames.

[@bill.godwin-austen]

Good point, they did fold at leasts one other storyline into Gendry's. The only bastards of Robert's that I recall being mentioned by name in the books (besides Gendry, who was never spoken of with a surname) were Edric Storm (the Stannis/Melissandre/leeches/sacrifice storyline) and Mya Stone (from the Vale) who was left out of the show, I don't believe any of her story found its way into Gendry's.

[@PrincessSarah090288]

The episode that kept all of us on our toes🔥🔥🔥

[@LMarsz]

“It’s because of the Olympics!” 😂😂

[@jessielallier9483]

lmfao A SHORT KING

[@fedeanna8708]

I had a secret crush on Thoros .... he was the bravest and the drunkest 😭😭💙💔

[@WiccedWiccan]

In their defense, early on there were so many story arcs going on that they could easily make it appear that a long time has passed just by not showing them as often and dealing with other peoples stories. In seasons 7 & 8, everyone is together already and thus has a more typical sense of progression that you have in many other shows and movies.

[@masonlynn5229]

the wight they took is named Boots by the way

[@levilevi9621]

A little silly at moments, but still a really cool and satisfying episode imo

[@bill.godwin-austen]

Re: Gendry... The "bastard names" are only given to bastards who are recognized as such by the father. We don't even know if Robert knew of Gendry's existence, let alone acknowledged him. But if he was, it would have been "Waters" because he was born, and grew up in, the Crownlands (i.e. King's Landing).

[@orphanedhanyou]

But Gendry Rivers sounds better? Plus he is an amalgamation of his bastard siblings in the book who had different surnames.

[@bill.godwin-austen]

@@orphanedhanyou The use of "Rivers" was an uninformed writing decision... should have been Waters. One of the characters that were folded into Gendry's storyline (mainly the one with Stannis and Melissandre) was Edric Storm. Gendry was never referred to by a surname because he was unacknowledged.

[@matthewtopping2061]

9:23 You'll find out soon, dude. Just wait 😏

[@orphanedhanyou]

Considering how far north they are and that it's finally truly winter, the darkness could be way longer than just 8 hours of sleep we recommend in our regular lives. They never say "we waited x hours or x days". They could've been waiting a week. So everyone that jumps to "they waited just as long as the scene that cut away from them took" is ridiculous.

[@bewitche]

we need an igli fan club

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

4:11 Dumbest line of this whole episode. Mance explicitly said "Fuck my pride"..it was about getting the Free Folk safe, nothing more

[@mandykimmav]

I don't like the line myself. I don't really like most of the writing in this episode. However, to be fair, pride is the consciousness of one's own dignity. Stannis offered refuge to the Wildlings if Mance kneeled. Mance refused to kneel to Stannis to secure that refuge for the Wildlings because of his personal morality. So even though Mance verbally stated "Fuck my pride", objectively, his action in the end was indeed motivated by his own pride.

[@gilgamesh8334]

@@mandykimmavWhat are you talking about? Mance explicitly explains that the moment he kneels to Stannis, the wildings would literally abandon him and fall apart with disastrous consequences. It has nothing to do with his personal feelings or morality, it’s the reality of the situation.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

That's when people realised D & D didn't watch or understand their own show!

[@KingEhrys98]

The chains, the spears, the army being so close enough to the wall to trap them at the lake, can all be explained by the Night King being a greenseer.

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

They cant swim so how did they attach them to the dragon? And how did they make the chains in the first place? The better explanation is terrible writing

[@AstrodeBastro]

cope

[@Square-ow7oq]

Those are not nearly the only reasons this episode is badly written. Every department of the show is still good, but the writing is objectively worse than earlier seasons.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Greenseers can telepathically move gigantic chains? lol I can see him somehow knowing what will happen in advance and as such may have laid a trap for these guys to go Beyond the Wall. In fact they should written that in the storyline. Like Jon saying "it seems like he knows what we're gonna do in advance". And maybe Beric - a fire wight - realising this was a trap cause the Night King wanted a dragon - and have him getting killed while this happens. That would have been epic. But the rest is bullshit. Being a Greenseer doesn't make you Magneto.

[@YeahItsJhon]

Blake hating Sam in LOTR will be the same hater to Jon Snow’s Sam, what a d bag💀

[@orphanedhanyou]

And Blake can't fathom like so many that Jon isn't only based off Aragorn traits, but is mostly Frodo.

[@Dan0oh92]

Great conclusion! The lord of light should have brought the dragon back, considering they are made of fire magic.

[@Bled420]

Also Tywin didn’t melt Ice until Robb was dead not Ned.. he waited until the Stark Rebellion was over to signify it being over If you remember he also threw a wolf pelt on the fire back in season 4

[@dfcarvalho]

I think that, in the show, Gendry says his name is Rivers. But that's probably a mistake. Usually a bastard's name depends on where he/she was born, since Gendry was born in King's Landing, which is part of the Crownlands, he should be Gendry Waters. If the father is from somewhere else, then they might give him/her the bastard surname from the father's land, especially if the kid is sent there to be raised closer to the father. In Gendry's case, If Robert had claimed him, he might be called Gendry Storm (since Robert was from the Stormlands) but Robert never claimed him (probably didn't even know of his existence), so Gendry Waters is probably what he would be called. But there's a chance he never had a surname at all. Most smallfolk don't and since no one knew Gendry's father was a nobleman, he probably wasn't given a surname at all.

[@hoonjive]

My bros much love but like most people missed a few episodes ago the night king was standing on that rock in the lake(he pushed bran out of the ravens) but point is he was waiting for them there he needed something/ slash waiting on something that’s all just a overlooked piece of the puzzle many don’t realize he/the dead were there waiting

[@hoonjive]

Also season 1 episode 1 they let chapped lips guy live to send the message basically cause they needed something

[@hoonjive]

Also on the time jumps/fast travel again most miss it but episode 1 season 1 the royal caravan traveled from KL to Winterfell in like the first 20 min lol it’s always been fast travel for everyone but Robb and maybe Arya lol

[@orphanedhanyou]

Lyanna, like Arya, was short

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

They made a mistake on the show calling Gendry, "Gendry Rivers". First of all you can only have a last name if you are from a wealthy family where the father has recognized you(poor bastards don't have last names). Since Robert don't know Gendry, he does not have a last name. And if he did, it would be "Waters" cause he was born in King's Landing. You are named "Rivers" if you were born in the Riverlands where the Freys and Tullys are.

[@Lions1986]

that def wasnt the first animal undead. Are you just ignoring all the dead horses that were seen way back in season 2?

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

I cannot stand how convenient it was that when they killed the White Walker, one wight survived so they could brought him along. lol I think it would have been better if after Thoros died that he would have become a wight so that's the wight they would have brought along.

[@GJS2183]

R.I.P. Vyserion! At least in the show...

[@orphanedhanyou]

All 3 dragons can't possibly make it to the end of the books.

[@chaz5489]

Tyrian meeting Jamie for the first time in 4 seasons? More like 2 and a half. A little more then half I guess bc of the shortened season but Jamie saved him in the finale of season 4

[@brittanygidley1291]

she said that cause she weight tyrion doesn’t always make the right decisions sometimes either

[@DaviDamir]

dude on the left gets more sun.2 middle n right are related fursure and dont know, or i havent seen the ep yet

[@jakewheeler6014]

I think the wights waited so long because they wanted Gendry to get Daenerys and her dragons so that the night king could kill one and resurrect it.

[@orphanedhanyou]

The Night King clearly haa sight or senses beyond the norm too because he can sense when Bran is watching him. Don't know why if the Night King has waited thousands of years..... he wasn't prepared with chains especially when he has an endless sea of dead bodies to use. They are near the sea so it's definitely possible he sacrificed wights to the sea to get them. Or the fact we don't know what's beyond the wall & there could be ancient decimated cities that man & th children had to give up to the dead.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Did you see Longclaw's eye open Igli?

[@orphanedhanyou]

Don't know why if the Night King has waited thousands of years..... he wasn't prepared with chains especially when he has an endless sea of dead bodies & it appears he can "see" similarly to Bran (he knows/senses when Bran is watching him). They are near the sea so it's definitely possible he sacrificed wights to the sea to get them. Or the fact we don't know what's beyond the wall & there could be ancient decimated cities that man & th children had to give up to the dead.

[@denderler]

If you think about it, Daenerys sacrificed a dragon for nothing. Even with that white walker, they didn't change anything.

[@kristymcdowell6185]

Ew I see a Kansas City t shirt. GO BIRDS!!! Bird gang baby 💚🏈. But awesome reaction ❤❤

[@nofil2000]

Adar saved Snow 34:12

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

Good thing for them the Night King decided not to throw the spear at Drogon 😅 For the night is dark and full of plot armour

[@aDaily1222]

it's actually Gendry Waters if Im not mistaken.

[@orphanedhanyou]

But Gendry Rivers sounds better? Plus he is an amalgamation of his bastard siblings in the book who had different surnames.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@orphanedhanyou that's not true. His bastards are Stone, Storm and Waters.

[@berlin990]

The comically large chains they somehow have to pull the dead dragon out always gets me. 😂 this episode is the beginning of the descent into really really REALLY bad writing.

[@deliafavara9470]

😻😻😻

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

33:16 Did you notice the eye on the swords pommel open?

[@raelshodges8949]

This episode was released /leaked a day after ep5 and the quality was really bad but of course we couldn't resist and watched it lol.. Arya hating on Sansa is weird, Ned told Arya that they shouldn't fight amongst themselves and that they had come to a dangerous place, knowing about the letter from Lysa saying the Lannisters were responsible for the death of Jon Arryn and still decided to confront Cersei. After watching HotD and seeing the saddles they had on the dragons it makes even less sense that Dany would fly without one especially in that scene when the night king is throwing spears at her.. like she is just hanging on?? haha

[@geetee4459]

Yeah - 'Waters' not 'Rivers'.

[@Lostmonster]

Yep, came here to say Gendrys last name should be Waters since he was born in the Crownlands.

[@orphanedhanyou]

But Gendry Rivers sounds better? Plus he is an amalgamation of his bastard siblings in the book who had different surnames.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@orphanedhanyou this is the same mindset that give us stupid shit in the last two seasons

[@ForWhyTho]

Th. Ccx😢😢😢

[@judson9223]

Igli cooking as usual!

[@NeveshSims]

Can u guys watch The Texas chainsaw series

[@mandykimmav]

I'm not sure why the show gives Gendry the surname "Rivers", but only acknowledged bastards of a highbotn are given surnames. Gendry should not have a last name at all because he was never acknowledged by Robert. That said, if he had been acknowedged, his surname would have been "Waters". It doesn't effect the plot of the show. I'm just clarifying custom.

[@loftypenalty91]

Gendry is originally from the Riverlands, and the surname of bastards from there is Rivers.

[@mandykimmav]

@@loftypenalty91 that is categorically false. Gendry is not from the Riverlands. Gendry is from King's Landing. King's Landing is in the Crownlands. Crownland bastards recieve the surname "Waters". However, in accordance of Westerosi custom, only acknowledged bastards.recieve surnames. King Robert never acknowledged Gendry as his bastard. Therefore Gendry has no surname. There is an interview with GRRM you can watch on KZbin titled 'George RR Martin on the Bastards of Westeros'. There he clarifies bastard names or you can look into ASOIF wiki where this topic is detailed.

[@orphanedhanyou]

But Gendry Rivers sounds better? Plus he is an amalgamation of his bastard siblings in the book who had different surnames.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@loftypenalty91 what the Hell made you think he was from the Riverlands? We only saw him in King's Landing

[@DukeJimbob]

Is @orphan a bot I've seen this post about 20 times

[@Bled420]

Something to think about.. in HOTD season 2, Cregan Stark told Jace that dragon’s refuse to cross the wall.. that’s how you can tell this season is out of book’s canon Dany and her dragons shouldn’t have been able to come to save them but.. whatever 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@orphanedhanyou]

Bran has already crossed the wall again though? The Three Eyed Raven and the power of the children is at least part of the power in the wall. Its been holding back the dead for thousands of years, but if the Three Eyed Raven is no longer beyond the wall too? How does that change things? Is the only way to destroy the dead forever is to let them come? And as you said dragons "refused" to cross. There's no evidence I have heard that they CAN'T cross. It's been hundreds of years and clearly Dany (most likely Nissa Nissa) & her dragons are not "normal".

[@Bled420]

@@orphanedhanyou The last ‘book canon’ episode is Season 5 Episode 10 where Jon Snow dies. Even then, Stannis is alive in the books not marching on Winterfell yet So Bran coming back also shouldn’t have happened because like dragons and other magical beasts they shouldn’t be able to cross the wall because of the magics infused in the walls foundation. The children were chased North by the first men and then the wall was put up by Bran the Builder. I’m pretty certain it’s in ASOIAF lore that dragons cannot pass the wall. Yes Cragen said they refused to, but they refused to because they can’t pass it being magic beasts

[@starsimvidz]

There are issues w/ the first 4 episodes of s7, but I think they are among the strongest 4 episode stretch of the series... This episode however.. killed the entire season for me. Don't get me wrong, its got its moments. Great spectacle, some good dialogue, some heart breaking moments. But its just so devoid of logic.. both the setup and the way it ends up going down. The plan itself never made an iota of sense, and then the implausibility of how the events unfold just killed the immersion. They were trying to mash a bunch of ill-fitting puzzle pieces together so they could get an undead dragon. This really is the first time the major set piece moment of the season is based on a plot that makes no sense.

[@GJS2183]

That's when D&D wanted to get it over with ASAP, so they started to ignore the lore, logic, pacing... No dragon is supposed to be able to fly over the wall. Queen Alysanne tried to fly Silverwing over the wall three times 150 years prior and that was the only time the dragon ignored her commands. The wall was made out of ice and magic, so no magic being was able to cross that threshold. And of course all decisions Tyrion made in season 7 were dumb to begin with (D&D writing)...

[@starsimvidz]

@@GJS2183 I could care less about them adhering to a bunch of GRRMs specific dragon lore tbh. As long as the story maintains consistency & coherency within the context of the show... which it sadly does not. I actually find GRRMs endless books of lore & histories incredibly irritating @ this point... because its clearly all that he cares about anymore. I blame him as much as D&D for the downfall of this series (both books & show)

[@orphanedhanyou]

They have to prove to others the undead are real, enough to get them to participate. How else would you do that without proof? Otherwise without multiple more season we never get a wight down in Kings Landing and they waited over a DECADE for the next book which STILL isn't released. So yeah they needed to wrap up.

[@starsimvidz]

@@orphanedhanyou lol, then y not just send a letter to Ed and ask him to bring a corpse or even just a dead animal near the wall and wait for it to re-animate? Why teleport all over the realm (including a FULL smuggling mission into kings landing)... to assemble this ridiculous avengers style mission that doesn't need to happen? We already saw a body re-animate BEHIND the wall in s1... There was absolutely zero reason to go fully beyond the wall and risk everything. Its such a brainless plot, and im not really going to be convinced otherwise :D

[@AllMenMustServe]

@@orphanedhanyou braindead take

[@Lynash23]

My friend who watched this episode blames Jon for the NK getting a dragon

[@Tsunami7964]

I agree with your friend.

[@starsimvidz]

Its Tyrions fault for coming up with the entire dumb plan in the first place lol. Since the audience accepts Tyrion as smart, the writers can just use him to make any plotline happen even if it makes no sense. They could've just sent a letter to Ed @ the wall and told him to take an animal corpse or something and wait for it to re-animate... We already saw a wight rise BEHIND the wall all the way back in s1... What was the point of going beyond??

[@GJS2183]

So, in the end it was all D&D's fault for wanting to get it over with...

[@orphanedhanyou]

Dany is the one that didn't believe. She is the one obsessed with her own power vs protecting the people. It's "Jon's war" not "our war" to her.

[@Lynash23]

@orphanedhanyou my comment wasn't about Dany. This is about Jon taking too long to get on Drogon because he was so tunnel focused on the NK. Therefore it's his fault that the NK got Viserion.

[@orcocan]

thats why the late seasons piss me off, when they cant get even basic lore right, gendry is just gendry as he was never acknowledged by robert, he has no bastard name. Even if he had been acknowledged he'd be waters not rivers, since kings landing is nowhere near the riverlands

[@orphanedhanyou]

They don't need to add another level of naming lore and not give him a last name. That's just another unnecessary to the end game side scene we don't need. He is an amalgamation of several of his book siblings so he isn't just "Gendry Waters" from the book. He just shares that first name.

[@orcocan]

@@orphanedhanyou what? that makes zero sense. He was just Gendry, how does calling him Gendry make things more complicated?!?

[@OpeningsOpenings]

Not gonna lie This episode was annoying to me And how the heck did they know Gendry was the fastest? Had they been doing relay races or something and timing it before they left the wall?

[@robtintelnot9107]

He's the most fit/healthiest of the group. Everyone else is old or battle torn.

[@SnowDaemon]

@@robtintelnot9107 most the group was in their 50's lol. so yeah, you are right. but to the OP's point...fast travel was deff unlocked this season.

[@robtintelnot9107]

@@SnowDaemon Yeah, I get it. But I don't think they are too far from the wall when it comes to the fast travel here. Plus I think it was probably 2 days they were on that rock, not just there overnight.

[@jessielallier9483]

This is SUCH a good episode, but the way I cry like a baby every single time that damn dragon dies ....

[@wonderwomanmillow2281]

The first "Mah Kween" ... later comes "I don`t want it"... 🤣 the words of season 8🤮I love that Night King Olympics meme❤

[@orphanedhanyou]

Stop whining. Jon is more Frodo than Aragorn. His end was bittersweet but he deserved freedom beyond the wall. Ice and fire saved the world from both ice AND fire.

[@Square-ow7oq]

This is the episode when i couldn't suspend my disbelief anymore. The second half of the episode is pure, nonsense.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Why? Another comment complained about the time being short, why Jon didn't just rush onto the dragon, the wight being back to Kings Landing. A) Where do they say it was a few hours? Considering how far north they are and that it's finally truly winter, the darkness could be way longer than just 8 hours of sleep we recommend in our regular lives. They never say "we waited x hours or x days". They could've been waiting days. So everyone that jumps to "they waited just as long as the scene that cut away from them took" is ridiculous. B) Jon couldn't risk Drogon getting swarmed C) The wight was tied up, that's how they were carrying him up to this point. He's still tied up on the dragon & they use one of the spikes to attach him to the dragon. Do you just close your eyes and ears when watching?

[@Square-ow7oq]

@@orphanedhanyou wtf are you talking about?

[@Bled420]

Actually King’s Landing is in the Crownlands.. so if Gendry was born in KL he should be Gendry Waters not Rivers

[@orphanedhanyou]

But Gendry Rivers sounds better? Plus he is an amalgamation of his bastard siblings in the book who had different surnames.

[@Bled420]

@@orphanedhanyou See that makes sense! Gendry Rivers does sound better, however lore wise it should be Waters. But so much is changed it doesn’t REALLY matter, just wanted to clear up that The Crownlands aren’t really considered The Riverlands as one had said

[@TomTomson81]

Here are some huge absolutely nonsensical plotholes. The wall is magical. It was built to keep out everything supernatural. Not even dragons dare to cross the wall, as we learned in HotD. Dany's dragons don't seem to have a problem with it. It was also said that the wall keeps the dead away. It is impossible for the dead to pass the wall. So why the hell do they go behind the wall to bring a dead man to Cercei? First of all, this dead man can't cross the wall and neither can everyone else, because it's magic. Now we lose a dragon to the dead and it comes back as an undead to destroy the wall, so that the dead can pass the wall, because of plot. Dragons cannot cross the wall and neither can the dead. So if no one does anything, nothing happens. But we have plot and since we are in the penultimate season, we don't give a shit about all lore and logic. We also invent teleportation systems. Where in season 1 it took weeks/months to get from A to B, we now do it in 10 minutes. History repeats itself. Dany is is to John what Rhaenyra is to Deamon. Shouldn't surprise anymore. 😂

[@orphanedhanyou]

Bran, the Three Eyed Raven, has already crossed the wall though. The magic that went into the wall & to keep magic out was built by the same power of the Raven & the children. And now he has crossed that magical line breaking it. The only way to finally end the army of the dead vs just hold them back is to let them in and finally engage until the Night King is killed. Plus we never hear evidence as far as I know that dragons CAN'T cross the wall. Just that they WON'T. Dany & her dragons clearly are not "normal" anyway. Their eggs were hundreds of years old & stone!

[@davidblocklinger887]

Waters not Storm. Storm is for the Storm lands. Waters is for the crownlands. Gendry Waters

[@orphanedhanyou]

But Gendry Rivers sounds better? Plus he is an amalgamation of his bastard siblings in the book who had different surnames.

[@matthewtopping2061]

Alright, finally time for some GoT, brought to you by Marvel Studios

[@geetee4459]

This episode is where things got really stupid. a) how did Gendry get back to wall, send a raven to Dragonstone & get Dany & Dragons over the wall in a few hours? b) Jon refused to jump on a dragon and chose to fight a walker or two for some reason c) they went on their mission to get a white walker - how did they get him back south? Was there a cage on the back of a dragon?

[@maxins3511]

Atravesaron el caminante blanco en una de las puas del dragon

[@SnowDaemon]

"b" isn't so unrealistic. they couldve gotten to him before he mounted the dragon. but "a" is very stupid. the fast travel really made things stupid. i try not to think about it so much for this episode though because besides the fast travel, this was a legendary episode. The dialogue between the boys travelling beyond the wall at the beginning was some of the best in the show. especially because we waiting so long for some of those characters to meet/reunite.

[@Lions1986]

Goku showed them all, including the Ravens, how to use instant transmission

[@orphanedhanyou]

A) Where do they say it was a few hours? Considering how far north they are and that it's finally truly winter, the darkness could be way longer than just 8 hours of sleep we recommend in our regular lives. They never say "we waited x hours or x days". They could've been waiting days. So everyone that jumps to "they waited just as long as the scene that cut away from them took" is ridiculous. B) Jon couldn't risk Drogon getting swarmed C) The wight was tied up, that's how they were carrying him up to this point. He's still tied up on the dragon & they use one of the spikes to attach him to the dragon. Do you just close your eyes and ears when watching?

[@DukeJimbob]

@orphan after seeing your same 3 posts over and over I'd assume you see zero flaws with this show

[@frnknstndrgqn]

she only should have brought drogon. he has the plot amour. the fact that an ice spear can hurt a dragon when dragon glass, weapons from Valyria hurt them. It's dumb. Poor Viserion poor Dany.

[@orphanedhanyou]

Your logic doesn't make sense? Regular spears hurt Drogon. Why can't a magical spear hurt Viserion? This is a battle of ice vs fire. Fire isn't just going to win every time.

[@frnknstndrgqn]

@@orphanedhanyou spears only hurt dragons if they hit in vulnerable places. The show kinda forgot that. The only reason Aegon's sister wife died was because the people from Dorne shot her dragon in the eye. But dragon skin is like stone essentially. But the writers forgot that just like they forgot lots of other stuff.

[@luisgarcia-nj9vj]

That's at least 75 % bald for middle guy . Shave it

[@orphanedhanyou]

It's not even half though? The head is a sphere.

[@tonismith3707]

King's Landing is not in the Riverlands. Cat's house (Tully) is in the Riverlands. 😊

[@orcocan]

this is one of my most hated subplots and episodes, completing the marvelisation of the series, fully sacrificing logic for the sake of spectacle

[@orphanedhanyou]

Why? Another comment complained about the time being short, why Jon didn't just rush onto the dragon, the wight being back to Kings Landing. A) Where do they say it was a few hours? Considering how far north they are and that it's finally truly winter, the darkness could be way longer than just 8 hours of sleep we recommend in our regular lives. They never say "we waited x hours or x days". They could've been waiting days. So everyone that jumps to "they waited just as long as the scene that cut away from them took" is ridiculous. B) Jon couldn't risk Drogon getting swarmed C) The wight was tied up, that's how they were carrying him up to this point. He's still tied up on the dragon & they use one of the spikes to attach him to the dragon. Another complained about the wall being magic holding back dragons & the dead. But Bran, the Three Eyed Raven, has already crossed the wall though. The magic that went into the wall & to keep magic out was built by the same power of the Raven & the children. And now he has crossed that magical line breaking it. The only way to finally end the army of the dead vs just hold them back is to let them in and finally engage until the Night King is killed. Plus we never hear evidence as far as I know that dragons CAN'T cross the wall. Just that they WON'T. Dany & her dragons clearly are not "normal" anyway. Their eggs were hundreds of years old & stone!

[@orcocan]

@@orphanedhanyou it's not 'a few hours', it's more like a couple of weeks, you telling me they were on that rock for two weeks?

[@TheLife0fdrew]

This reaction is so fake.im specifically talking about the guy in the middle. You’ve obviously seen this before. You’re trying to hard to pretend

[@orphanedhanyou]

Yet he is the only one that hasn't seen it? The outer two are the ones that have.

[@AverageDonger]

Oh there's a dragon with all my enemies on it, better try to snipe the other one in the sky

[@orphanedhanyou]

The Night Kings enemy is the The Eyed Raven & all humanity. Killing the non bonded dragon with no rider with a clear straight shot is the better option.

[@rangertubefan]

​@@orphanedhanyouDon't try to add D&D logic to a scene devoid of logic