GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Ghost of Tsushima

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If you are going to send a console generation out with a bang you could do worse than Ghost of Tsushima - like Last of Us 2 for instance. This may be my most positive sin video ever, which means it probably sucks since no one likes it when I'm nice to a game. I counted its sins regardless though.
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[@benchii7867]

the funniest thing that happened to me in this whole game is that i killed every enemy that went after taka, and yet taka still was captured.

[@EntertainmentExpertz]

I think it says in game that he came back some time after Jin was captured. So no matter if you kill the mongols chasing Taka, he will be captured by a SEPARATE group of mongols at a later time.

[@benchii7867]

KC NotQuiteHD you probably right, but he probably would’ve noticed that I was captured, and the only possible option would’ve been him rushing in to save Jin

[@EntertainmentExpertz]

Benjamin Gillman perhaps but Taka literally says upon you gaining consciousness that, “you were gone for so long” which implies that he didn’t immediately go back but waited a good while for Jin to come back. So whether or not the player takes out the mongols that chase him, he comes back regardless and gets caught. Now if, let’s say, he said that he was captured while on his way back to camp, or that the guys he was distracting caught him, I would be surprised that he was caught.

[@benchii7867]

KC NotQuiteHD good point, thanks for taking the time to explain.

[@EntertainmentExpertz]

Benjamin Gillman no problem. I know, I had to look back at the mission after the initial shock like HOW TF did Taka get captured?!

[@fenriswolfostarrichi]

"The princess is in another castle" - Shin aka Japanese Super Mario

[@alldayagain]

20:58 Fun fact that everybody knows, but Jin's katana at it's base set is called "The Storm of Clan Sakai" So a storm did technically stop the Mongol invasion

[@ReijiArisu1211]

The reason why Shimura is angry at Jin at the end, is because he taught the commoners how to stand up and fight. The Samurai's are the elites and aristocracy. They're the ones who protects the people and in return the have obedience and loyalty from those commoners. But Jin not only taught those commoners how to fight, he killed the Khan without even relying on the Samurais. With the commoners now armed for battle, loyal to the Ghost like he's their lord, will those commoners obey the Shogunate and the Samurais ? I don't think so. This is the reason why Jin's status as a Samurai is removed, and a new Lord will take his place. There are hints of this during the game, even Samurais from the mainland want to reinstore the Samurai political power and ask Jin to forget about the Ghost because they fear commoners will lose respect in the Samurais.

[@ReijiArisu1211]

Shimura tells Jin that Samurais exists to inspire the people, but when they do take weapons to fend for themselves. Shimura is happy when Ishikawa and Masako are here to help him, but he's immediatly dismissive of Yuna, a commoner.

[@KaiTenSatsuma]

This is some *_hilarious_* shit to read if you're even remotely knowledgeable of actual Japanese history.

[@carlosizquierdo1939]

Kaitensatsuma yeah this games not really accurate to japanese culture at all mate but what are you gonna do about it. Just try to enjoy it for what it is

[@KaiTenSatsuma]

@@carlosizquierdo1939 True, but it's one thing to watch a Kurosawa film about the "Noble Samurai" and it's another thing to read someone spout that shit off like it isn't fantasy.

[@ReijiArisu1211]

@@KaiTenSatsuma I'm merely speaking of the game's story and what is presented in here. Having learned japanese in college for two years, I can understand the feeling.

[@jessicastrike5640]

AC will never dare set foot in Japan now because they know they will be compared unfavourably to this

[@mogul188]

Watch them try however. It will be full of flying unicorns and glowing swords like in the last few games

[@theostrowskibrothers3068]

@@mogul188 when

[@tonsofamateurgaming296]

They might. With their resources and the right creativity, it actually wouldn't be difficult to do a better job than this one at a samurai style game... not that I'm all that confident in them doing it right, lol.

[@youssefsaleh7186]

MOGUL And Gay samurai. Don’t forget the gay samurai.

[@mogul188]

@@youssefsaleh7186 Lol yeah and the gender choices

[@icatfishedyourdad2767]

I feel like the phrase you’re looking for is “cultural appreciation” rather than “cultural appropriation” which comes from a place of respect, admiration and a genuine passion for the subject matter. You can tell the devs put a lot of love into this game.

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

And they did their homework. I heard that they actually asked for permission from the Kurosawa estate to put his name in the game mode.

[@demonintellect9834]

I was genuinely confused when he said cultural appropriation and then praised it. Usually that is an SJW term meaning you cant like or were anything that isnt from your culture. So an example is I as an American shouldnt wear a kimono because its cultural appropriation. Fuck SJWs.

[@SA80TAGE]

@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight they _mostly_ did their homework. Dartigan points out their mistakes, the most egregious of which being the Japanese using the katana... he made a great point of how Jin could've been the first to wield one and give the sword more reverence.

[@jonathanlanser1129]

@@SA80TAGE no the devs purposefully made it a katana. They knew what they were changing. They even stated that on an interview

[@FadingFires]

Cultural appropriation would be lifting Japanese and samurai culture and either whitewashing it or using it in a blatantly disrespectful and/or stereotypically racist way. It has nothing to do with a “SJW” pejorative, not that being socially conscientious is something bad in the first place.

[@EntertainmentExpertz]

This has to be your best video yet. Though I will say this, I think you miss the point of three key scenes. The sin you mention where Jin takes issue with Shimura sending men to die at his castle but not taking issue with the battle of Komoda Beach ignores Jin's character development and the scene's context. At the beginning of the game, Jin thinks that the men going to die will receive an honorable death. And that the only option, the honorable option is to charge into battle head-on. At this point, because Yuna has convinced Jin to think outside the box and consider dishonorable methods, he sees another way that could solve their mongol problem without adding to the Japanese death toll. Jin seeing his Uncle go for an option that will lead to more casualties is what causes him to say that Shimura sent his men to die. Because Shimura would sooner protect his honor than his own men. Second, there are numerous moments where Shimura is shown to be quite the hypocrite, what with his connection to Goro, a pirate, as well as his willingness to blame Yuna for Jin's actions. It speaks to the fact that, as Sensei Ishikawa says in one of his missions, "You shouldn't expect every samurai to perfectly embody honor." Third is the reason that the Shogun wants Jin dead. During the final mission, Shimura makes plainly clear that it isn't about honor anymore, it's about classism. The shogun is worried about the public no longer looking to the samurai for aid. It's about the elite (the samurai) being afraid of a revolt (brought on by Jin's actions as the Ghost). So they want Jin dead to make an example to the people not to revolt against the ruling class.

[@vaughnrobbins9771]

but jins a samurai, he reinforces the idea that samurai protect their people, and that they should be looked on favorably and with respect. the shogun must have an extra chromosome because taking away jins status as a samurai is what creates the issue of making the samurai look weak/ incapable of defending their people. Also the only way the shogun would even know about the poison would be if shimura ratted out his own nephew, which is just like, wtf dude? Shimura is just way too damn rigid even for a character who is supposed to be overly rigid.

[@EntertainmentExpertz]

@@vaughnrobbins9771 Except the Samurai are expected to live by their code. And Jin does not. No amount of justification will make up for the fact that his ignoring of Shimura's orders and poisoning of the Mongols is a BLATANT act of disrespect to samurai as well as their code. By this logic, the shogun, and by extension Shimura are saying, "You are making the commoners lose respect for the samurai and their code! Giving them ideas about fighting for themselves! And if they don't look to us for aid! What's to stop them from overthrowing us! Especially when they adopt your dishonorable methods!" Also Shimura wasn’t the only one who knew about the poison. Remember that the Shogun’s men entered the scene with him, seeing the carnage that Jin caused against the mongols.

[@EntertainmentExpertz]

Super JLK that’s the thing, the shogun’s fear is overpowering his reason. He’s afraid of a peasant’s revolt and sees Jin as the face of it, because he’s gained the love and respect of the people. The shogun sees a threat to the samurai’s power and wants it taken out. Obviously we don’t see a lot of civilians joining the fight against the mongols, but the shogun doesn’t care. As far as he’s concerned, Jin’s their leader.

[@lyledeyounges1276]

nailed it, seriously

[@car3ss]

It’s true, I think the main “insult” from Jin wasn’t even his supposed “lack of honor”, it was his disobeying and being loved by the people, thus bringing power back into the hands of the common folk when they realize they don’t really need the samurai. That was the real threat, shimura’s reprimand about lack of honor is just excuses and him being upset that he’s been outranked by his nephew who openly disobeys him.

[@ebsmith1102]

Your game sinning has honor.

[@VLarraechea]

Epic

[@ruialves2790]

Thor Odinson is being gay a problem?

[@ruialves2790]

Midnight Starz Ent ty luv ❤️

[@felixc.3444]

But he said stfu to a random commenter on the internet, so n affection for you

[@locksand45]

Brilliant, love it

[@gatopreto-xq4dd]

I have learned more about the mongols in this video than my whole time at school

[@jtorres2643]

Zack Smith nah it’s cause some schools don’t bother teaching about other cultures

[@gatopreto-xq4dd]

@@jtorres2643 thank you

[@akechijubeimitsuhide]

We learned a lot about them, mainly because they invaded us (Hungary) too. To the point where the king who rebuilt after it is called the "second founder".

[@dylanwatts159]

“A healthy fetish like CBT” Ya need to talk to someone Dartigan?

[@kutstupid5480]

Aaand that's how we know that you probably don't watch his streams 😂😂

[@aqibkhan2491]

Ur marj

[@dylanwatts159]

kut stupid I don’t actually, I just found that line hilarious

[@kutstupid5480]

@@dylanwatts159 I know that. It really was. It's just that cbt is kind of a running joke in his streams

[@sirocco2810]

I might sound adorable and innocent but what's CBT ? Haven't caught a stream in a while

[@TheBlackAdder1964]

Oh Dartigan you know Ubisoft was watching this games success with envious eyes and at the same time smashing their head into a wall for wasting the opportunity for over a decade 😂

[@davidmock7592]

Lol AC still sells like hotcakes. They don't give two fucks.

[@Countmacula666]

@@davidmock7592 oh they'll care this time

[@davidmock7592]

@@Countmacula666 No they won't. GoT has sold 2.5 million copies. When, Syndicate only sold like 3 million, they basically revamped the entire series. There's just not enough people playing this game to concern them.

[@gaeist3048]

@@davidmock7592 **2.5 million in 3 days. It's probably sold like about 5 million now.

[@filipmajewski8382]

They would've fucked it tbh so i'm glad they "missed" it

[@KazeMemaryu]

I was a bit weirded out by how "merciful" the mongols were during the main story, while being ruthless slaughtering war beasts in pretty much every side mission. But for dramatic effect, sacrifices were made. And it worked very well!

[@davidmock7592]

I feel like it just didn't capture history well.

[@archangel6749]

I think the whole idea was that Mongols were good at turning people against each other, and any "mercy" they showed was just them converting people to their side

[@michaelcarmona7838]

The Mongols were actually pretty nice if you surrendered to them. It’s when you put up resistance that they would transform into the slaughterers of worlds.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@davidmock7592 an old chick being a stealthy assassin and master archer is already pushing it even by real world standards,they don't have a responsibility to make it that historically accurate.

[@davidmock7592]

@@MGrey-qb5xz Except they were going for realism and trying to stay historically accurate.

[@dedcaesar2325]

"And then after being shot with a poison arrow Jin survives the same poison he used on every Mongol in the fort." "Sounds like it will be pretty harrowing, how does he do it?" "Oh, it's super easy, barely an inconvenience." "How?" "He just does." "Oh, okay."

[@jeremyporter2713]

Yeah but those other guys didn't have main character plot armor

[@cezarmrf]

Using Ryan references is TIGHT.

[@dedcaesar2325]

@@cezarmrf Yeah, yeah, yeah!

[@V.VIIIBeanman]

Honestly Jin shoulda died at the beginning of the game, then Jin shoulda died when he fell off the bridge, then Jin shoulda died after encountering Ryuzo and gettin' captured, and then Jin shoulda died when he got poisoned. Jin is the definition of plot armor.

[@YeeSoest]

So, you have a Pitch Meeting joke for me?

[@richardsmall2855]

00:54 Dartigan immediately assumes he knows that the Japanese never battled at night. During the actual Mongol invasions of Japan, the Japanese would launch raids during the night to attack Mongol ships. Usually to set them ablaze. In 1576, Oda Nobunaga attacked Uesagi Kenshin at night with 30,000 men. The 47 Ronin, one of Japan's favorite tales ... the ronin attacked at night. This took me all of 5 minutes to fact check as it's a pretty ridiculous claim that no armies attack at night.

[@megs4193]

Well said my friend, and I've watched Japanese and other gamers in general and samurai watch this, one samurai teacher said the only thing he would do differently is just kill em, the Mongols were ruthless, and the Japanese highly trained and dedicated night day, they find away, and remembering it's a video game nota documentary, but I understand a KZbinr has their niche and I appreciate that, especially seeing the gamers who just looooove this game, including the actor who plays Jin plays this on KZbin himself, but somebody has to do it I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️.

[@richardsmall2855]

@@megs4193 - Truth. But my attitude is, if you're going to post a vid on anything historical and portray yourself as being a smarty pants, you better fact check and not say stupid stuff. Annoying types like me will call you on it if you don't. Lol.

[@megs4193]

@@richardsmall2855 I agree with you 😃 I'm just a softy, I know you right, my mum is 72 and she's just finished this game twice 😄 and she remembers her history, I just struggle saying anything negative, but that's because I was born, a good sort of brain damage 🤷‍♀️😄😄 that's what I call it anyway, but yeah, I done a kinemaster video of this game for my mum and I only have a PS3 so I watched alot of reviews from, a samurai master Japanese people, some of the cast, and the guy who plays jin also plays online on KZbin, and I'd never heard anything bad about, like I said somewhere on this page, it's a video game not a documentary, I was curious to see what he could possibly find wrong, I was thinking more along the lines of GamePlay not historical accuracy 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️😀 but I couldn't do what KZbinrs do, I recorded my voice once to see if I could start a channel for women my age or men, talking about starting new things on the internet, nope, I couldn't listen to myself talk, I was alone and embarrassed 😏so even if I disagree I always give a thumbs Up for bravery 🤷‍♀️😀😀👍.

[@tada-kun982]

@@megs4193 you do realise modern 'Samurai' are just swordsmen, right?

[@megs4193]

@@tada-kun982 yeah, I do 👍😉.

[@nicks288]

The camera is pretty much the only big negative I have for this game. Such an amazing game.

[@AcesMaven]

I agree. I think if they could have made trees and foliage invisible during fights the camera issues would not have been so bad. Otherwise, I loved the non-lock lock on system. Made switching between enemies easier in my opinion.

[@HKISfreak1]

@@AcesMaven Really they should have mapped the attack buttons to the triggers or bumpers, that way it would have been much easier to move the camera with your thumb while in combat and make sure it didn't go crazy on you

[@eviltoi4105]

Just waiting for Ghost of nippon maybe hahaha, hopefully theyre fix all the wrong things, especially on costum design.

[@theostrowskibrothers3068]

I dont have any problem with the camera

[@zensoredparagonbytes3985]

You can change the camera speed to fast in the settings

[@TheLightUpMachine]

15:20 Actually, I read up on some of the mongol documents in the game. It would seem that Khotun wanted Jin and his uncle to side with him so they could overthrow Kublai Khan. That seems to be the very reason Khotun is so adamant in making Japan cooperate with him.

[@diersteinjulien6773]

He even states that he wants to make Shimura Shogun, so he would lead the japanese army against Khublai

[@oldleatherhandsfriends4053]

That makes even less sense.

[@keleko77]

@@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 it makes less sense for someone to make a personal army to over throw another army?

[@bestlaptop_psn]

@@keleko77 Yes with apparently how much research he did on how honorable the samurai are, how would he think they would ever turn on their people.

[@damondgreen2239]

@@bestlaptop_psn Considering that he’s seen the people there ether break or bend the rules it’s not crazy to think they’d join him if desperate enough.

[@doge-of-venice]

3:13 Not sure, but looks to me like she stabs him in his neck, in the gap between his armour and helmet.

[@filipmajewski8382]

The animation is imprecise and the knife clips through the armor, but i believe that was the intention as well

[@TITANia69420]

Woulda been awesome if she decided to lift up the neck guard before the stab tho

[@juanencabo2845]

@@TITANia69420 That's what I was actually thinking about that part. Im pretty sure the soldier wouldnt have noticed.

[@alexanderf8451]

I didn't know Dart was into cognitive behavior therapy.

[@eruwa1550]

Underrated comment 😂

[@Tobi-cc5fc]

I don't think I've ever seen so many sin reductions in a sins video before. Just proves how good this game is I guess

[@karlwittenburg5868]

I’m going to give what I hope is a reasonable explanation for sin 67. Jin is able to use the poison to instantly kill someone because Yuriko taught him the extreme dosage needed for lethality. But since the Mongols had to reverse engineer it themselves with no sample, I think it’s safe to assume that the dosage they made is not potent enough to kill someone instantly, but is still a lethal amount. If I remember correctly, none of the Japanese people we see get poisoned die instantly, and I think it’s because of that smaller dosage. I also theorize that the mongols didn’t know exactly what flower to use for the poison, and so used the people of Kin as a testing ground, seeing which plant gave the same effects as Jin’s poison.

[@sircount5459]

No. Kotul Khan had scouts watching jin from a distance. He even says so himself that he has eyes in the whole island. Plus how you think he knew how when and where jin would strike and massacre his men.

[@primordialbias8711]

0:09 That's not cultural appropriation, that's more cultural appreciation/exchange.

[@werewolfzeus]

This game made Dartigan reference Wikipedia for a ton of these sins. Once in a while a game comes along that really makes Dartigan work.

[@jonathanlanser1129]

And he still got the second sin wrong. The mongols landed at 2am and the battle started around 4am

[@juniorjunior5884]

So basically, Jin becomes Batman and his uncle refuses to be his Commissioner Gordon.

[@sircount5459]

No jin become the first ninja.

[@Nyufly]

In the bonus content the creator explains why they didn't add a lock on system. They wanted to represent how it would be for a samurai, who is used to one on one combat, facing the mongols who use group fighting tactics.

[@marley7868]

that is incredibly stupid if your used to one on one you would hyperfocus on one guy not acidentaly try to kill next to the one you ment to

[@Nyufly]

@@marley7868 did you play the game?

[@ishavedoffallmyhair]

How awkward would it be if Yuna got Jin off the beach, nursed him back to health, and then when he woke up he was paralyzed from the waist down... like “Oh, I was gonna ask you to help me save my brother but like... y’know, you’re paralyzed cuz you got shot in the spine twice...”

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

Yuriko’s story is a bit disturbing once you put the pieces together. After Jin’s mother died, Yuriko (her sister) took her place as a surrogate mother for Jin. It is implied that she took Jin’s father to a nearby hot spring and she even said being with him made her happy. She even says she’s unsure if that makes her a bad pardon. It gets weirder once her Alzheimer’s sets in and she mistakes Jin for his father, as she leads him to the same hot spring; asking for some food shortly after. At least they didn’t go any further, and she just wanders off again.

[@jqmez]

Yeah I did think that was a bit weird

[@jqmez]

bowmanpwner I wish we got to see more of Jin’s dad

[@isplat927]

@@jqmez We might get a DLC with Kazumasa in the time of the Yarikawa rebellion, Yuriko did say that Jin and his father had a thing for imagination.

[@tailor31415]

it's not disturbing, it's tragic. it's highly implied she and his father had a long running affair after his mother died and she was ashamed that she loved him and he loved her and it was a secret.

[@jqmez]

I *Splat* that would be cool 🤣

[@buntado6]

Damn straight that first point. Some of the best dark european medieval fiction out there was made by japanese (Berserk, Dark Souls) and nobody complains jack shit about that.

[@garrettsattem4799]

Funny that the two examples you’ve listed had the latter take inspiration from the former.

[@munkee_man]

Dark Souls is overrated imo.

[@samuraijackoff5354]

Spoilers)) The whole katana argument was pretty accurate and cool. I admit that was a miss opportunity. Imagine using a tachi the whole time, then Taka forges Jin a katana and a hook. The whole scene were Jin unsheathes his sword over his head is moved to when Taka is killed. Like: Taka and Jin was trapped by the Khan. The Khan holds the new Katana, mocking Jin and Taka. He kills Taka, later Jin gets free and lifts up his katana, unsheathes it over his head and boom.

[@mogul188]

But katanas were made like a hundred years after these events

[@dimez3702]

Eftinoiu Eduard So everything he made was useful but that’s not good enough? Are you saying you wanted more that would make more sense

[@JayJayM57]

Grim reaper in this comment section is correct that is not a katana. they use the word katana in the English translation because its an icon.

[@edubbz1987]

Just finished it. My one big question was how did the samurai reinforcements get through the blockade?

[@shydreameress264]

Would have been cool, it always annoyed me a little that Yuna kept saying Taka was an amazing blacksmith, and all he did was attaching a rope to a hook.

[@risinghero13]

I really thought the achievement at the end of the sin count would be something along the lines of: "DOSHO"

[@mariarogers74]

I know dartigan said that ubisoft thought it was to cliche to set an assassin's creed game in Japan but now with the major success Ghost of Tsushima now ubisoft is going to plan a future game set in Japan

[@GoinGreninja]

I hope so.

[@jmorel42]

Is this confirmed

[@Abhishek-tw8fr]

i think it will be the exact opposite bro , since ghost of tsushima is so successful , another game set in the same timeperiod wouldn't work . especially considering ghost of tsushima set a high standard for feaudal japan games

[@mariarogers74]

@@Abhishek-tw8fr true but has it stopped ubisoft from making the market oversaturated with its games over the years and having an assassin's creed game teased to take place in Japan back in assassin's creed embers. It may not have been a teaser but it set the stage for a future installment to be set there. Hell, watch dogs 1 sucked and that got two sequels with the second one coming out soon. So this isn't going to stop ubisoft from ruining this kind prestige.

[@SaberisloveSaberislife]

I'm pretty sure we all know an Assassin's Creed set in Japan will come. Tons of people are asking for that setting so Ubisoft is probably saving it for last or when the series starts to decline.

[@yves_23]

It is explained. Jin was still moving when Yuna found him, having been twitching and making a fist. Likely Yuna saw that and knew he was still alive.

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

Sin 52: I know these sins are mostly memes. But there was a very interesting dialogue in the game in which Jin mentions he marched alone with Shirmura in the end and he was fully expecting to die, and then he mentions that way of thinking was the easy way. This was one of the first dialogues that showed Jin started to embrace the Ghost. So yeah, back then Jin didn’t have time to complain since he didn’t even expect to live another day during the 80 samurai battle.

[@gabrielsantiago5753]

I loved the game. I'm also big into Japanese history. I know there are some historical inaccuracies the game play is great. The Camera was incovenient at times but for me it just added to the challenge of reacting to multiple enemies. Plus i think a lock on will take away from the fluidity of the sword play when having to switch stances. The enemy has the right to be able to dodge out the way of our strikes. It might the only smart thing the AI can do.

[@jason1529]

I would take 10 sins off for the ghost stance scene

[@BlairofShadows]

Wow, sounds like Dartigan really liked this one.

[@donovanblackwelder4301]

Remember his video on "Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance"?

[@RadinV1]

You know a game's good when it starts with a negative sin count.

[@JAYDOG1337A]

In a cutscene Yuriko rubs her arm, a sign the heart is struggling to pump blood, I'm pretty sure in the end she died of heart failure.

[@oldleatherhandsfriends4053]

Big leap.

[@shydreameress264]

Should I stop rubbing my arm x)

[@andrewillustrations]

7:13 you actually see the scar when you confront the Khan for a second duel, when the camera zooms in on their faces

[@jameswest6232]

Aside from Khan being wildly inconsistant, the bit about the Shogun is the only thing that annoyed me about the game. Even if the Shogun thoguht Jin had gone too far, just killing him like his Uncle was ordered to do would more likely turn him into a martyr for his faction than anything else. - That minor gripe aside, I like this game and loved watching Dart stream it!

[@davidmock7592]

This is the same Shogunate that 100 years later would have so much bickering and fighting that they created a century long civil war. The "honor" thing in this game was legit baffling. Historically, it was never a thing.

[@filipmajewski8382]

Politically, the shogun's decision makes sense. As Shimura explains, Jin has taught the people of Tsushima that defying the samurai can benefit them. At that point, Tsushima is mostly liberated and the Khan is dead, despite Jin being vital to taking back the island, Shogun still wants to make an example out of him to gain back people's respect

[@jameswest6232]

@@filipmajewski8382 To the game's credit, that works and does nicely bring into question the long term consequences of Jin's actions. I'm just saying trying to have him killed is a risk play since it could pretty easily turn a war hero into a martyr for further rebellion. - Also, I might be a bit annoyed with how Jin's uncle really didn't help the situation by stubbornly sticking to the samurai code. Khan even states that Jin was the only threat because, unlike his uncle, he was willing to fight dirty and not hamstring himself by only fighting head on. If Jin had let his uncle take the lead, they honestly probably would have lost (again).

[@oldleatherhandsfriends4053]

The Shogun would have just ordered him to kill himself, Shoguns did that all the time and people nearly always did it.

[@oldleatherhandsfriends4053]

@@davidmock7592 it's a weebs wet dream on "Medieval Japan"

[@SolracNexus]

But hey, at least you get to choose whether to kill that character in the end or not in ghost of tsushima. Right LAST OF US 2???

[@wastedpunk407]

Yeah because Shimura and Jin are the same as Abby and Ellie and that choice would've made the same sense. Great comparison.

[@Sebastian-dc2qg]

@@wastedpunk407 it actually makes more sense to have that choice in TLOU2 2 than in this game, but whatever, THE STORY WAS SO PERFECT, THAT IT IS GAME OF GEMERATIONand other blah blah.

[@evryfckinnameistaken]

get over it lol

[@93King]

@@Sebastian-dc2qg How?

[@whiterabbits22]

Jin’s amazing survivability is obviously the favor of the Gods seeing that all them foxes (messengers of the Gods) lead him to receive blessings.

[@Nestnestsoto]

I think the reason Jin is able to shrug off the poison is because Yuriko used small doses in the Sakai estate food stores as pest control. He could have built up tolerance over the years

[@UmbreonMoonlight]

🤔🤔🤔🤔come to think of it this world make alot of sense kind of like a vaccine

[@jmurray1110]

Though he was experiencing pretty bad symptoms the first time so maybe that charged his system due to the increased dosage helping to more actively stimulate his immune system similar to how doctors up a dosage after a person’s system gets used to it

[@vendetta543]

Here’s one: why was Ryuzo waiting in that spot like he knew Jin would be there? You go through a crack in the wall and Ryuzo had no reason to think Jin would go that specific way for a dramatic duel. Also, none of the Mongols overheard your very loud fight till after Ryuzo screams to alert them.

[@davidmock7592]

The rust Khan places in Ryozu is fucking baffling. He basically whips Jin's ass the first time he sees him and instead of waiting, he just uses the group that Jin got out of a rut in the first place and the dude who's lost every duel he's ever had with him.

[@amburr_]

To be fair, in one of the hot springs Jin can reflect on the seasons and he says he can’t wait for the spring to arrive, so I think the island is in late fall/ early winter

[@YamaBushi74]

Appreciate the video. Some interesting points. The only one I wanted to correct you in was ‘Tachi’ and ‘Katana’. You said katana were not invented until after Gengou (the Mongol invasion). The words Tachi and Katana are not names of swords, but the mounts used for long swords of 60cm or more in length. Tachi slings the sword by a cord from the waist with cutting edge downward, whereas Katana mounts have the sword in the waist belt with cutting side up (or Uchigatana). Both Tachi AND Katana were made and in use during the Kamakura period (when GoT was set), and both were also used afterwards, up to the 19th century. When Tachi blades were shortened to the point that its original tang almost disappears, it becomes a katana. No disrespect, but this point seems to come up in many YT vids.

[@wt3992]

I’m gonna be honest some issues you had I deathly didn’t really mind but they were minor issues. overall I agree this game was amazing and definitely a middle finger to Assassins Creed

[@krauser18x]

They were issues that were necessary for the game to develop like in the comic books that the villains let the hero lives ( which if they didnt there wouldnt be no story)

[@goldblade84]

Actually, several side quests have characters / groups that are lacking food. un-Ding.

[@762x69]

Definitely my game of the year. Flaws and all.

[@mcgee779]

13:25 I still wonder how Yuriko “took care of” the bandits.. I’d love to see her swinging a katana

[@glennhooper8867]

Well if Masako can do it, no reason why Yuriko can't.

[@shydreameress264]

I always thought she was joking, like clearly all she could do was hide

[@Justforvisit]

Posion, maybe?

[@shydreameress264]

@@Justforvisit No, she said that: "No man deserves it"

[@marley7868]

@@shydreameress264 would you call a bandit a man? I wouldn't

[@emirqayyum762]

5 mins in and not even 10 sins. GOTY indeed

[@michaelcarmona7838]

As for why Khotun Khan spent so much time trying to secure Tsushima, wasn’t Tsushima to be the main staging point and supply depot for a full-blown invasion of the Japanese mainland, both in-game and in real life? If so, then there is no way the Khan could embark on his full campaign if the possibility that the island would rise against him and cut off his supply chain remained.

[@blackvial]

Strategy 101: have a clear and safe supply line

[@ilkiya8028]

the problem is he is wasting his chance to murder jin and his uncle , he could kill both of them in the beginning of his invasion , yet he keep wasting his chances

[@ilkiya8028]

​@Edwin C. it beneficial but the problem is that it allows jin to give him time to rally the tsutshima island against mongol and then outnumbered mongols in the end... because khan keep delaying murdering the jitos hence allow jin to murder and terrorizing mongols more, hence giving hope to tsutshima , especially by this game logic stealth assassination entire fort is possible ... i mean mongols have number , khan doesnt need that anymore , especially all you need to do is obliterate every single jito in the tsutshima , it make the rest surrender and give up... then the ronin and peasant will join the mongol cause.

[@ilkiya8028]

@Edwin C. so keeping jin alive in the VERY END OF THE GAME is definetely plot armor

[@ilkiya8028]

​@Edwin C. khan should have kill shimura before Khan try to take another castle ... and thats my point earlier...especially when they know shimura and samurai culture , hated to surrender , surrender will only destroy their honour ... What would make khan think make them surrender is gonna work.? second , mongol mindset is that you surrender or murdered... If samurai not willing to surrender, why bother with them anymore? thats the reality of mongol Again ,let's say if he conquer tsushima quickly with murdering all jito , including jin , then it would be easier for him to reach the mainland , and he will done the same when he reach mainland .... murdering the jito , and you gonna see the other jito surrender to him (because the situation is getting worse and they dont have another choice) then he owns japan , and it's a lot easier to revolt kublai khan with japan in his own hands. mc need plot armor , but you have to make it convincing ... like you are get poisoned and get shot by 2 frickin arrow and you are still alive is just way too convenient, hence we call it plot armor , how the mc is still alive its not natural and way too convenient..

[@usmanahmed8027]

Next time Resident Evil 0. After that Bully.

[@MSantosMusic]

GAME OF THE YEAR. PERFECT WAY TO END THE PS4 GENERATION. MASTERPIECE.

[@Animekirk]

So fucking tired of people putting "no lock on" as a con. This game was not designed for a lock on system. It wouldnt have worked. It litterally would have made the combat worse if it had a lock on mechanic. If you have trouble pointing your control stick in a direction you want to swing, thats more your problem. Not the combat system's. As for the camera, specifically in tight spaces, that point is valid. But the frequency of fights where you are forced to fight in tight spaces is so low as to be basically more of an ocassional annoyance than any serious flaw.

[@michaelnewton1754]

I agree that the lack of hard-lock was a great choice, and I mostly loved the way they used L to aim your swings. Still, the soft lock could use a bit of tweaking. There were more than a few times I aimed towards the only enemy on that side of the screen, and had Jin swing next to them instead of at them

[@tonsofamateurgaming296]

Just because you couldn't think of how to make it work, doesn't mean there wasn't a way to make it work. You liked the lack of lock on and many people agree. Many other people didn't like it and for good reason(s) whether you would agree or not. What doesn't make sense is assuming that all the gamers _(of which there are many)_ that recognized and didn't overlook the flaws in the system just had trouble with the stick and or broken controllers. In systems like this one, it is common for the character to not target who you were aiming at and sometimes glitch to the point of targeting people nowhere near. It happens. Not enough to to make the game unplayable/unenjoyable, but enough for most to notice it.

[@stiffnuts420]

Personally think there should be an option.

[@adaptorperish1322]

I think it was a good choice, that makes the combat different from all those expensive Dark Souls clones that I grew tired of seeing (Darksiders 3, Fallen Order, The Surge, Absolver, whatever else I can’t think of now). Only The Surge (2) improved it, others were straight up copying it. It’s slow, boring, mind-numbing, is just a waste of time and doesn’t work well outside of From’s games, because it wasn’t fucking created by any of them. Also, I heard some series called “God of War” never had any lock-on features and been doing fucking awesomely for more than a decade now... There is also this whole genre called “slasher”.

[@adaptorperish1322]

Buns Stiffington No, everything shouldn’t be for everyone, unless you’re an infantile communist. It is there, accept it or don’t play it, if you don’t like it. This is the way...

[@gaminggladiator06]

I think the reason jin wasn’t as afflicted by the poison as others were is because he most likely developed a resistance to it by administering small doses of it to build a tolerance. I read a story of a man that made a poison that would knock you out before killing you, and bear in mind this story was made ages ago, so don’t take it that it happened in modern time. One day, a rival came to his house seeking revenge. I don’t remember what it was that drove him to try to kill the guy, it was probably for sleeping with his wife or something. One thing lead to another, and the bad guy managed to get the poison maker to drink some of the poison. The bad guy left, thinking he won, and the poison maker woke up hours later, as he was already immune to the poison and was simply sleeping.

[@samross2507]

I live how this game tried so hard to stay historic because when i found and read about the in game artifact the Mongols chalice which if you took the time to read it, it stated that the Mongols often filled there chalice's with "oil" when meeting with enemy's to do exactly what they did in that first scene so that first scene wasn't even wine it was oil he covered him with which is insanely awesome to me P.S. sorry about any grammar mistakes if there are any i have Horrible grammar

[@joelmorder9780]

A sin for me is that once act 3 starts literally every archer now has poison so you either better take them out first or be really good at avoiding arrows.

[@michaelc1626]

I would have taken a sin off for the introduction of the ghost mode...that was just a really badass moment imo.

[@jonnyboaa]

This man just said Norio being fat is a sin 💀💀💀💀

[@keridinsmore5181]

that last comment: A++++ side note: I look at Jin's multiple survivals of poison by the Mongols is that they don't have Yuriko's technique and exact recipe--so yes it is still poisonous, but likely not as deadly as it could be. the peasants dying from it could be due to the Mongols experimenting on starving, already-compromised people for longer periods of time if it was indeed a weaker formula

[@ricardoreis4385]

Also, Jin didn't got mad about the first suicide charge because he was totally OK with the code of honor thing and when he started embracing the ghost (the rest is history).

[@Slothisticated0252]

08:46 Dartigan: I have to wonder what the Mongols stationed here were eating... Taka: An Iron hook with a rope attached to the end Wow

[@farewell_youtube]

As far as I remembered. In japanese dub, Jin actually call every blades 'Tachi', not Katana. He even shout 「太刀を抜け！」 (Tachi Wo Nu-ke! - Draw your Tachi!) before the standoff fight.

[@jonathanlanser1129]

I remembering reading they did research into language to better reflect japanese at that time period

[@duongbinh211]

This game is not historically accurate, but it's fun. I'm glad you're able to catch the historical mistakes there are in the game.

[@archiebeach9153]

Ok so here’s the thing. All historical liberties taken were talked about prior to the game release, e.g. why there’s a Katana and not a Tachi. These aren’t “mistakes”, they are purposeful choices to better reflect the game they wanted to make.

[@archiebeach9153]

Eftinoiu Eduard I mean that is a factor but the main reason is because this game isn’t being an exact historical simulator-it’s a love letter to Kurosawa’s samurai films just as much as it is to history.

[@irishvader2193]

The ending and credits is perfect. The music is amazing

[@BNumbersStation]

I will say that the Straw Hat Ronin not being able to trade or be given aid by regular townsfolk might be realistic, as in feudal society being a Ronin was to be seen as the ultimate failure and was a greatly dishonorable title to have. That being said, that stigma is tied to the presentation of a warrior's honor in Bushido, which Dartigan pointed out didn't exist yet, so that's a tough call.

[@Montesama314]

When it comes to the poison, I can't say HOW they figured out which plant, but there actually is a moment in an Act 3 mission wherein Yuna and Jin pass a field of wolfsbane flowers, where the two realize this is where they've been getting their poison supply.

[@septimor32]

Maybe useless sword points that came to mind. 3:30 In Japanese dub everyone always talk about Tachi, even when the subs say Katana and the swords look more like Tachi to me anyway ( Slightly longer handle and little more curved blade than katana ), but if they have Tachis in game, they wear it wrong... Katana is worn blade up ( like in game ) and Tachi is worn blade down. But if you had it Tachi way with Tachi techniques, you wouldn't be able to do those awesome stand-offs, because that IAI slash from the sheath wouldn't be either possible or invented yet.

[@spouwnerring]

9:25 this reminds me more of Sekiro shadows die twice than Batman

[@Shadowtron1221]

2:54 Has made me laugh more today than I have in the course of 3 months. Bless you, Dartigan. Bless you.

[@ThranThruse]

I’m genuinely amazed at how in the 2 full length playthrough a of this game (Iki Island included) not once was I ever bored, no matter what I was doing.

[@kidghostly3746]

It is actually thought that the Mongol invasion force did land on Komoda beach at 2am, with the fighting really engaging around 4am. I don't know how accurate that is, given the mystery around the invasion and historical accounts mixing myth with fact, but it's probably what the devs found when researching it. Either way, it lends to a more dramatic opening and was probably more of an artistic choice rather than based on fact.

[@baeljr666]

The sin about all of the seasons happening at the same time was actually done on purpose. It was done to show the Japanese attachment to and respect for nature. Also, I would like to complement Dartigan on the fact that, unlike CinemaSins, his sins honestly make sense most of the time. Things like the Kahn not killing either Jin or Shimura when they refused him just doesn't make sense to me given everything we know about the Mongols and Genghis most of all.

[@forcestarartemis6805]

5:48 back then there was habit of take young one to battle fields

[@alldayagain]

13:15 So replaying recently, I thought this was foreshadowing that Ryuzo and the Khan had been intentionally spreading the story of the Ghost to force Jin's uncle to turn against him (i.e. sowing unrest). But on a second playthrough, I realize that Ryuzo's "plan" is to capture and try to make Jin join them. Basically what they tried and failed to do with Shimura. The Khan boasts about how smart and well prepared he was for the invasion, but moments like this make you wonder how he's got this far.

[@pepeex3976]

what was wild to me was the 2 lead developers getting so much enjoyment from japan that they got appointed ambassadors for tsushima island

[@NoTime2Explain676]

I’ll be honest I went through the first half of this game being satisfied but a bit weirded out because there was no gore And then they introduced the Ghost Mode and I was very satisfied since it let me behead people

[@TheDEATHBOOM]

3:47 Fyi if you play the game with Japanese voice the game actually call sword "tachi" so it's cool

[@yxz5198]

You have to remember that its impressive for a long game/movie to have a decent amount of sins, simply because there is more time to mess something up, and considering that ghost has only a small amount of sins and its a very long game, that says something about the quality control thru out the entire game

[@ForHeWhoLaughs]

Wholeheartedly agree

[@aelius3805]

My headcanon is that Jin built up a resistance to the poison from possibly handling it his whole life (Probably helped Yuriko poisoning rats and such) maybe he was exposed to it through skin contact?

[@Dlo2018]

1:46 well to be fair, random survivors or people that know of the attack on the beach make statements about the weapons they were using. Trust me it's there.

[@BigDaddy-vk6rv]

BULLY! (Even though it already exists) Also well executed sinning - more sin video should learn and follow from this video and that is worthy of removing a sinGGGGGNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDD

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

That is a very good point about Yuna choosing Jin for no reason. She had no reason to believe that Jin specifically would even think to trust her, given that she is a thief by trade, and all the haughty honor-focused samurai would think they're too good to help someone like her. I guess the whole "save this blacksmith and he'll repay you with better weapons" argument could work, but Jin seemed to have the added incentive of repaying Yuna for saving him--an opportunity that would've been hard to quickly come by from other surviving samurai. What I mean is that in the event that Yuna never met Jin, or if Jin died on that beach, she would've had to ask a different samurai like Ishikawa or Masako, and I doubt they would've cared about helping her because of their personal problems.

[@katyornok63]

What an awesome video, well done! Very good and intelligent commentary. Love it (and I don't even play the game)

[@candidosilva7755]

This have some next gen graphics. Realy impressive.

[@cyberclawterror950]

Wow, it’s almost like the game developers *Intentionally* made the game this way so you don’t die after 15 minutes of playing

[@tonaradosstharayn8591]

With Yuriko... I'm pretty sure she had a form of Alzheimer and was just hanging on til she could see Jin a final time. After she did she could let it go and die peacefully. It's just weird that one of their final moments is confessing sort of having an affair with his father, lol...

[@Darkman9000]

I think it's fair to assume Taka was captured in the early hours of the invasion, which prompted Yuna to check out the beach where the invasion began, and thus found Jin after checking several other dead samurai. Still far-fetched obviously, as it means Jin was lying on the shores severely wounded for anywhere between half a day or even a full day before Yuna dragged him to the village she was hiding out in. Also, there are some legends about the art of setting swords aflame, though I think it was said the blades were designed to handle being on fire, whereas the game just lets almost any bladed weapon be capable of the technique.

[@EquableStorm]

This is why this channel is so great. No irritating bullshit nitpicking like other channels, he points out legit flaws but still gives credit where it deserves. Good stuff

[@gameboy5621]

Played the game, loved it and even platinumed it and I find this review very fair, because most of the things he said were actually on my mind too when I played the game

[@nolandmetoyer9247]

17:17...He began to realize how ineffective that style was... He became a man of the people

[@OrochiJr97]

22:07 Best sequel baiting ever.

[@prchy681]

Yeah the first sin deduction was ON POINT. That's what I to say whenever I see someone blaming Sucker Punch for cultural appropriation. We would never see a game like this from a Japanese studio.

[@FreeArk3733]

I've been waiting for this lol Edit: Just finally got to watch it since I beat the game. No painted ledge remarks? Cmon dartigan you're getting soft

[@mccombsedc]

What if as you play the game you had two options one as playing as the ghost and the other honoring the samurai way. If you played as the ghost killing people from behind and using poison you unlocked the ghost skills and if you played as a samurai honorable and always facing your enemy head on you unlocked better samurai skills. Each choice giving you a different ending that could’ve been cool in my opinion.

[@scottyoshihara2458]

They don’t even say the word katana, but in the Japanese dub, Yuna says Tachi for the blade.

[@bladrook3996]

Just finished the game. Perfect timing

[@cww2490]

This video was really spot on for legit reasons for the Sins.

[@braedenchapman7227]

I always thought the changing seasons of the island were meant to help convey passing time through the year

[@chaoticmat1739]

Excellent commentary, might be your best video yet