Game Theory: Is Link Dead in Majora's Mask?

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Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask is a DARK game! Clearly, one of the game's major themes is death, but just how dark does it REALLY get? Is it possible that this game is all about Link, Nintendo's signature mascot, dealing with his own death? Today on Game Theory, we review the evidence!
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[@GameTheory]

So, now that I've tackled Majora's Mask, I have to ask... Ocarina or Majora?

[@Thatoneguysuperdeluxe]

Majora!!!!

[@MagmarFire]

Yes.

[@ShadowFaction24]

Ocarina, by a wide margin.

[@alic170]

Majora

[@denisecain2001]

Can your do a theory about how kingdom hearts and how it relates to the bible

[@sircartelian]

R.I.P Navi 1998 - 1998 She forgot to WATCH OUT!

[@Kingdom18Key]

and when Link tried to tell her to stay with him, she didn't LISTEN!

[@scoutnova9213]

Nicmos_Space *pulls put gun* SAY HEY LISTEN AGIAN I DARE YOU (lol)

[@theangrypotato2.031]

HEY LISTEN

[@tonygamer5774]

Genericwhiteguy73 HEY

[@crystalshamblin9240]

🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱

[@najiwav]

My first video I ever saw from Matpat. Thank you for everything, we'll miss you.

[@grimlock5208]

My first video too

[@imhaddanitattaxx4172]

Same here, that's why I'm even here. It stings but I'm happy for em :)

[@phasi2182]

I had to go back and rewatch the one I remember watching the most when I was a kid

[@utopiclightning4458]

Same.

[@4respect4honor57]

Why are we all back here😂😂😂

[@willhayes7612]

I don’t care how many holes you can poke in this theory I’m always gonna love this video, the way it’s scripted and edited together gives me chills every time I watch it

[@curtisleblanc5897]

Honestly, same.

[@mysticxjuice6612]

I mean it's just a "theory" speculating is fun, even when it's not right

[@everthon2457]

True

[@mrlarvux]

All his theories are pretty much complete bull shut but also entertaining a lot of the time

[@Pusfilth]

There’s no holes

[@witchplease9695]

"You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"

[@witchplease9695]

Dubee510 Lol, bad day?

[@astridmcintyre2279]

+Des lol, Jacksfilms?

[@ugnawnabhi4this]

probably

[@witchplease9695]

Astrid McIntyre lol, problem?

[@Nettles007]

+otackuyoutuber BEN

[@toraokami5178]

I laughed tooo hard at navi’s tombstone “she forgot to watch-out”

[@youtubeuser5524]

Lmao too much hate for that little one..!

[@cheezekeke3951]

Basically a glowing thing with wings

[@milkman9412]

H E Y L I S T E N W A T C H O U T

[@spinelquitiguess8379]

Dominique Raley ...

[@krisbannor3697]

Lmao😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aracuno8626]

came back to watch this after matpat announced his retirement, man, this was great to come back to, I wish you the best Mat & Steph! And best wishes for Ollie and Catpat too

[@Fish_maid]

Me to bro me to

[@queenofthecapes]

Same! Dunno why I thought of this one first, but here we are. :( Bets of luck, Pat-Family!

[@the_black_fox9136]

Ngl, this theory actually scared me when I was 8.

[@soggysooponline]

Same here bud

[@wyvrix5421]

FORREAL

[@humansubject8638]

Would’ve when I was six months. This video is nothing, I’m not being macho or anything it’s just not that bad. Are peoples fear tolerances less high where you come from?

[@the_black_fox9136]

@@humansubject8638 Now that I think of it, it Creeper me out more than scares me.

[@ethansay6650]

@@humansubject8638 I don’t think fear tolerance is based on where you live lmao

[@GameTheory]

Theorists, it's dangerous to go below. Take this...knowledge: Click nothing, trust no one, and keep theorizing. We shall overcome...clickable virus links and bad portraits made of symbols!

[@darth0kahn]

thought you where going to change mario

[@saminabox]

Its dangerous to go alone here take this l ^^^ | } _ { } _ { /|_/---\_|\ I_ |\_/| _I \| | | |/ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | \ / \ /

[@loganwait900]

the wheel franchises possibly future episodes but thats just a theory a game theory..... uh theory yah ummm

[@Rimalogo]

do one on pikmin and how they are realated to real creatures called ants and its history

[@dowork723]

I was wondering if you could do the theories around final fantasy viii?

[@GabrielDot395]

When he said "oh jeez" to Zelda on wheel of gaming. Little did he know about FNAF, the game that would take over the wheel.

[@ameirgrant6116]

Matpat went crazy with fnaf to the point where dude basically started writing the plot/lore itself

[@joeewmm2294]

@@ameirgrant6116 ikr

[@C0w_1nk]

I don't think fnaf was made when this came out

[@md.abulkalamazad6847]

@@C0w_1nk Oh 2014 this was 2013

[@sageoffire3964]

My introduction to Game Theory, PBG, and the larger Zelda franchise. This is truly the end of an era. And what a wonderful era it was

[@thelunarlunatic9681]

Same

[@miuiruma9760]

“When your a creepypasta fan” Ah yes hello Ben drowned

[@kokichiouma483]

I agree Miu

[@miuiruma9760]

@@kokichiouma483 panta bish?

[@miuiruma9760]

@@kokichiouma483 hold up your never nice to me why are you agreeing with me-

[@mysticash_8020]

Why is Miu here I though you died you to kokichi

[@miuiruma9760]

@@mysticash_8020 L O G I C

[@_simon.s_]

I think people forget the word "Theory" whenever they're in MatPat's channel

[@normalminecraftgamer1643]

But hey, that’s just a theory, a real theory

[@DemiAngel75]

Hey that's just a theory, a dumb theory that i presented as truth till the end credits, thanks for watching

[@maplerose5468]

Jojo Jesus Christ not everyone knows that’s okay no need to be an asshole about it you literally sound like you’re saying your better then everyone chill

[@narwhaltitan8391]

It’s funny he hasn’t editted this video seeing as Nintendo came out saying that Termina is a physical place and that Link wasn’t dead or dreaming but rather there.

[@monroe7532]

Jojo r/Iamverysmart

[@magthegreat0035]

Who saw that buffering screen and thought the video was actualy buffering?

[@AstroK32]

Crafter0035 I have terrible internet so I actually thought it was buffering

[@magthegreat0035]

lol me 2

[@kylie6645]

What how

[@magthegreat0035]

idk

[@LunarRainbowPony]

I was deeply confused cuz I’m on my PHONE ON THE APP

[@tiffanymcgrath4359]

9 years... The intro still slaps. Wow.

[@lolman101.]

Remember when PBG was a KZbin gaming giant? Good times

[@coliejedi7814]

at least he still posts right?

[@strawberryduck3080]

Ah yes, those were good days

[@loudtaste1046]

Who

[@Nintendoggy]

It's a lot of work to be a big KZbinr nowadays. I wouldn't know exactly but I'm sure it's really stressful.

[@kurisu-2385]

I love PeanutButterGamer,

[@BritCatastrophe]

"Link continued his search for Navi after she left in Ocarina of Time. Why anyone would want to find her, that is beyond me. But Link is a weird kid." A-fucking-men XD

[@DisasterEnby]

I fuckin' agree

[@scarletgoldenthorn]

But...I-I love Navi.

[@beatles4ful]

***** I bet you typed one line of it and copy and paste the rest

[@mettatonex7221]

Brit Catastrope Because without Navi... Link would not know how to open a door.

[@BritCatastrophe]

Well Midna still opened it for him with her big ass shadow hand when he was a wolf.

[@wannabe1me927]

Ben Drowned: You shouldn't have done that MatPat: well I already did.

[@samtheanimefan4602]

I was actually looking for something like this.

[@boeyzhang8565]

@@samtheanimefan4602 same lol

[@samfive4641]

Lol

[@Mushroom223]

R.I.P

[@Rita-bl3mb]

XD

[@basically_link]

Sadly this theory has been proven false by Nintendo, but this was still one of the best theories they've ever made in my opinion.

[@drdrew816]

Just wondering, how did nintendo disprove this theory?

[@basically_link]

@@drdrew816 they said in an interview straight up that link was not dead in Majora's Mask. Don't remember exactly what video, but they were sitting on a couch.

[@drdrew816]

@@basically_link oh right ok

[@Jack_80]

@@basically_link maybe they just don't want to admit it because they later made more zelda games that contradict that. maybe at the time of mm they were intending to end the series and replace it with something new but then decided zelda is a guaranteed top seller so they changed their minds.

[@skyriotAndKadeGaming]

@@Jack_80 link in mm didn't die because Twilight Princess Link is literally a blood relative to OOT Link meaning that Link from MM would have had to been a grown up and had a child He did die as a soldier later though, just not in Majora's Mask

[@haruh.1443]

Ive watched this video at least 10 times but i swear that “youtube glitch” always gets me

[@Prospero19]

Mat, I just want to say thank you. I first found this video when I was in a state of grief. I had lost my little brother in a car accident and I was myself going through the five stages. This video actually helped me during that time. So thank you.

[@lolimnottheguyurlookingfor592]

F

[@ghettokage6104]

I’m sorry for your loss. I send my condolences. But I am glad that you found comfort in MatPat’s video.

[@derodainfamous]

Awwwwhhhhhhhhh that's wholesome. I hope you have less pain in the future.

[@Autistic_Sandw1ch.official]

*presses F and pays respects*

[@forkliftcertifiedguy7]

I hope your doing better now, I’m so sorry to hear that

[@astridmcintyre2279]

Description: "Help us reach 1 million subs!" Sub count: Whoops 6 mil sorry.

[@HimariHimatsu]

+Astrid McIntyre and then when you look at the upload date you suddenly feel stupid

[@astridmcintyre2279]

+Alexander Markström I actually don't lol. I was just referring to how much the channel has grown, but I see where you're coming from. XD

[@ajlambert2074]

+Alexander Markström lol

[@astridmcintyre2279]

+Lps CocoCaramel Yeah, I know. I was just referring to how much the channel has grown since then. I already said that.

[@pheldia]

+Astrid McIntyre look where it was published. doy

[@ApollosLostLyre]

This was my first-ever game theory episode and I love coming back to it occasionally to see how the channel has grown since it came out

[@yoavssj5893]

My very first game theory, had to come back here after Mats retirement...

[@M3ltedNikhowaz6426]

Same here dude.

[@oogeth]

same... sparked my love for zelda, gaming, and theorizing.

[@Wolverinesmells]

just thought i should share this amazing insperational quote from link himself " HYEEAHHHHHHYEAAAAAHYEAHYEA " -Link

[@wavewingman5993]

*Tears* That was....That was beautiful.

[@TheSpy149]

"Let teachings of old past onto you" is the most inspirational link quote for me

[@wilcoxtrapzk8315]

(applause) it so touching makes any Goron happy

[@kalebjones9553]

It's beautiful!

[@lisadelligatti7207]

😭😭link is such a poet it's Beautiful. 😭😭 where's that Titanic air horn remix when u need it

[@Towel-Man]

Yup, time to randomly watch this video again.

[@ehhhhhh1885]

I know right?

[@ludensarahan]

This video is Mattpat's best video lol

[@ehhhhhh1885]

@@ludensarahan Can't disagree with that, mate

[@hamzaisrar999]

@@ludensarahan facts

[@Phantom-Asura7]

Here I am after some years again!

[@accuratememin]

I just realized, the way the Happy Masked Salesman acts also acts with loss. - When he finds out Link didn't bring back his mask, he goes into a moment of denial. - Immediately after, he flies into a rage, violently shaking Link. - He tells the story of Majora's Mask, and then begs Link repeatedly to bring back his precious mask, to which Link says yes. - While we don't really see him for the rest of the game until the end, he's probably super bummed out that his mask is gone and filled with anxiety that the Skull Kid casually is ending the world. - When his mask is finally returned at the end of the game, he says the evil has left the mask. It sounds like he's a bit disappointed that it's just a normal mask again, but either way, he accepts the mask and moves on with his life.

[@MZ-qo7zz]

My favorite MatPat video. You will be missed

[@someoneimportant2517]

He's lucky the wheel of gaming didn't say undertale...

[@smudgetwo]

this was in like 2013

[@sarahadair7320]

Yea or else all the undertale fans would go crazy!

[@ValentinesGarden]

Someone Important- The fans would go crazy, yes, but the video would last an hour to @-@

[@nytronochrome]

This video was made in 2013, Undertale was made 2015

[@dreeraven5838]

(sans is ness)

[@XxzombilovaxX]

Who will be probably be rewatching this in 2019?

[@capdemo4287]

Its about 2019 and I just watched this

[@cup2754]

It's almost 2019

[@XxzombilovaxX]

And we'll be ready..

[@navcatforse4590]

I watching this in 2018 not 2019 yet

[@cassie_dp]

I watch this like once a month lmao

[@gulpin768]

The first theory I watched, granted it was a couple years after its release, but i remember playing majora’s mask, completing it, but I never knew what happened next to link, it was vague, until one day i stumbled upon this video

[@enclavesoldier2435]

This theory has been heavily debunked. Link lived into his adulthood and had children with TP Link being his blood descendant.

[@Kitty294_]

This video taught me about the 5 stages of grief and I will never forget now (I will now always remember DABDA)

[@scrablse2613]

2013: "Help us reach 1 million subs!" 2020: 12.3Million subs Time really does fly by fast.

[@SavimusProductions]

12.8 Million*

[@MrFuller876]

@@SavimusProductions 13.1 Million*

[@Idkx]

Peri Uluırmak 13.2 million subscribers

[@pugs6357]

@@Idkx 13.3 million subscribers

[@Blood-zz2kt]

@@pugs6357 13.6 million *

[@jeffreyschwanke2310]

This is one of Mat's best theories.

[@KarishmaChanglani]

I would say he has a lot more flawed theories. But why is this theory so flawed?

[@nathanaquino5551]

No it is dumb

[@picklechooz6827]

Jeffrey Schwanke agree

[@Joseph-gf6ro]

true.

[@kingdomdementorx991]

Jeffrey Schwanke Agreed!

[@CallMeLi.]

This was my first game theory video, i was a 11 year old girl who had an obsession with zelda twilight princess and from here i started watching your chanel. As i grew my intrest still were the same and i still watched you and now im 22 and you are a huge part of my life Mat. Thank you for making me how i am today and i still am a huge zelda nerd but also a indie game,horror catalogue,fnaf and cool arg fan. Thank you for everything Mat i wish you the best❤

[@m0k0n4sama]

One of my first game theory videos.

[@shortking1247]

no matter how many times i watch this video, i always fall for the loading circle at the beginning of the episode.

[@PurpleColonel]

it doesnt even look like that anymore

[@TimWhiteCubs]

ALL HAIL THE POWER OF MOBILE!

[@jacobaobert]

took him a year to follow up on that hook shot joke

[@hylianknight8341]

mrbrockpeters no it is a giant wheel and he spins it and if he lands on a theory he already did he spins again the hook shot one was like a 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000 had of making it spesicfily because he made a joke about it

[@hylianknight8341]

mrbrockpeters lol it is fine

[@CynicalT0ast]

mrbrockpeters He probably calls every single thought a theory, and he goes to the SUPER AMAZING END CARD TOURNAMENT!!! Every night

[@darksuperganon]

He also covered the KZbin Subscriber Bug.

[@Pvinini]

66 likes and 6 comments... TEMMO CONFIRMED

[@Nisanex]

I literally keep watching this regularly

[@soops_world]

Me seeing the intro: oh must be an old one Me seeing that it was form 9 years ago: GOD DAYUM

[@AideensAhmed]

Matpat: link is in purgatory Steph: why is the fbi here? Fbi: he knows to much

[@Beebshelpmeineedhelp]

SO MANY DARN THINGS , instead of fbi it’s Nintendo

[@big_mike7950]

*too

[@allie_min5361]

It's not FBI it's Nintendo

[@hougen8695]

To

[@alchemispark7751]

Did he even know steph at this time?

[@willbeaver06]

Termina also means 'end' in the Spanish language (just so you know)

[@diegocruz7377]

You got it right. Bien hecho.

[@azappl]

All these languages come from Latin where it means end, that’s why it’s in so many languages

[@slavko5666]

In Romanian also

[@me5591]

*boi*

[@willbeaver06]

@@me5591 ...yeah ???

[@EndoSkeloton]

This was my favorite game theory video when I was younger, I'm not that old yet, but it still fills me with joy, and nostalgia makes me so happy.

[@bridgettegross4110]

1:09 it's almost 7 years later and videos still don't always reach subscribers, notifications are constantly late, and KZbin doesn't give a crap

[@dropatacoshell]

i added 2020 yall happy 2013 - No 2014 - Not Yet 2015 - Nope 2016 - Not There yet 2017 - A Little Bit Closer 2018 - Closeeerr.. 2019 - *RECOMMENDED* 2020 - *KABOOM RECOMMENDED AGAIN*

[@mr.dembiscuits3029]

ik

[@InuminaSagashi]

Exactly

[@twinkyraptyk1358]

Same here

[@zincpodzzz]

zoleilbox for real😂

[@hanged4703]

Yep

[@vincekeatts2534]

Did anyone think that in Majora’s Mask Navi is dead and each location is Link coming closer to accepting her death.

[@popsicIes]

I think I read somewhere that fairies die once they complete their purpose, meaning that Navi would have died post-Ocarina, unfortunately.

[@curtisleblanc5897]

R.I.P. Navi.

[@llamaluke1207]

You obviously only watched about half the video

[@vincekeatts2534]

@@llamaluke1207 yeah, I noticed that after I posted this

[@TonyNes64]

@@vincekeatts2534 It could also be about Navi anyway 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rbjohnson]

This is the first game theorists video I ever watched. With Matpat heading out soon, I have now come back to relive memories.

[@johndavidstoltzfus8921]

My first video from you MatPat. It's still my favorite, but your final theory is a close second. I'm a little shocked at how much this is hitting me, but you will be missed. Thanks for everything.

[@jonathannaranjo6316]

MatPat: looks at Majora's Mask. MatPat: Is this Loss? I'll leave now.

[@midnalazuli793]

I understand that this theory has long since been debunked, but one crucial element was missing in this theory: Hyrule Historia explicitly states that the Hero of Time LIVES after the events of Majora's Mask, he even has children.

[@prome57]

Midna Lazuli i love watching his debunked theories though. but i believe this theory isnt entirely wrong. link isnt dead skullkid is (just my idea of it)

[@shadoworion9603]

Midna Lazuli wait didnt his spirit live and not his human form?

[@midnalazuli793]

Shadow Orion I think you got to have a body to produce offspring.

[@longtall2006]

Midna Lazuli but then die and becomes shade from loz twilight princ

[@xdarkerx12345]

Midna Lazuli hyrule historia isn't cannon

[@sukhpreetsn4945]

I don’t know why but when I was a kid just gave me nightmares

[@superbsucculent9733]

this is definitely my favorite video they have ever posted something about it makes me so happy something about the way matt speaks, and the music and the editing AND PBGGG this video is amazing

[@neogeothomas8127]

9:14 "And that actually makes sense in the timeline, too!" Next up in autoplay: "Game Theory: Why the Official Zelda Timeline is Wrong"

[@DRKALX]

Ninjinfox22 The guy with the spikey hair on Ocarina, that's him, that's the Stalfos on twilight princess, you bimbos! :P

[@alithegreat9096]

Ninjinfox22 tho he said that the timeline theory was wrong in his botw theorie

[@pugglify_yt]

It was a joke though, because PBG was not paying attention.

[@KN-bh1pu]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[@MT-qs7gz]

bargaining.. did you say... bargaining... DORMAMU-

[@ellasans4758]

OH MY GOD THAT IS AMAZING

[@crazymuse007]

Dormamu! I'm here to make a bargain!

[@cathalpippenger5078]

Pugs Rule Dormani I've come to bargain!

[@frog2583]

Dormamu I've come to bargain (dies) x1000

[@daemianmatthews2062]

This was my first video that i saw from MattPat

[@cryo311old]

MatPat: Is Link dead? The Official Zelda Timeline: Well yes but actually no

[@calebbaumtm1915]

0:44 Made Me Extremely Confused For A Second...

[@drama_impediment5450]

IKR, I thought my iPad went stupid for a sec there😅

[@calebbaumtm1915]

Hiphop75Gaming lol

[@delgonzales6121]

Caleb Baum

[@samanthamckamey9764]

Caleb Baum

[@dragonborn1502]

my computer actually froze right after that and glitched LOL

[@zarico6157]

This was the first game theory I ever watched. And I’ve been a fan ever since. Seriously, thanks Team Theory, I was eight when I became a fan, and I’m fifteen now, not that old, I know, but I still grew up with this show, and it’s taught me so much. So thank you guys, from the bottom of my heart.

[@AirahsELL]

Wait until you're a bit older and realize that Mat is a hack fraud who barely does any research before pumping out a convincing script.

[@zarico6157]

@@AirahsELL Matt has said on more than one occasion that not all of his theories are meant to be taken seriously. Game Theories job is meant to entertain by stretching the realities of fake video game worlds and stories in order to draw extreme and outlandish conclusions, not come up with well thought out, possible true intentioned analysis. Sure, a lot of them are like that, but I don’t think anyone believes that Nintendo actually intended for Mario to secretly be a sociopath, or for the Companion cube to actually be a curled up dead aperture employee, etc etc. They aren’t meant to be taken seriously without exception, they are entertainment, and from them you can choose to believe it if you want, or do what most people do and go “Hello neighbour’s neighbour is Satan? That’s an interesting theory.” The upload schedule for this channel is brutal. Not all of them are gonna be gems. And besides that isn’t it just fun to think about how physics would work if Minecraft’s worlds functioned like cube planets? Or speculate on what would happen to Termina if the moon did come close enough to hit the ground? Like,, who cares? I just find the content educational and entertaining. Do I think Rosalina is Luigi and Peach’s kid? No, not really. But do I like the episode? Yes! Genetics and genetic probability are intriguing subjects that are fun to listen to. But anyways, sorry for the wall of text haha-

[@AirahsELL]

@@zarico6157 so the target audience is a bunch of dumb kids who aren't interested in real world physics applications, got it. Their spinoff series, Science Of, is so much more entertaining to watch than whatever the hell Mat rambles on about for 5 minutes before getting to the point of his video. Thing is, his theories aren't even well researched. I would have a bit more respect if a video like this couldn't be refuted in SECONDS with something as simple as "Hero's Spirit from Twilight Princess exists." The line "it's just a theory," aside from thr catchphrase, is a really lame cop-out for him to be as wrong as he wants and for people like you to think it's defensible.

[@just_kuroo6204]

@@AirahsELL ok so one question. IF you dislike matpats’s videos, why are u here? Also, I’m pretty sure you’er subbed to matpat

[@just_kuroo6204]

@@AirahsELL oh wait, I just looked at ur channel. You’er a science major who dislikes people that come up with theories for entertainment. No, no, I respect ur opinion, you’er human too

[@wittybanter96]

This was the first theory I ever watched. Thanks Matpat

[@albertogestosoarce2108]

I come back to this video when I want to watch the best theory of Majora's Mask for 9 years now... omg, 9 YEARS ALREADY!!!

[@Geeky_Boii]

Am I the only one who gets reminded of Ben Drowned when watching this video....I thought so

[@malleydingess3871]

Me too

[@serenitysorceress9096]

Me too

[@fahyevan1299]

Nope reminds me two

[@monserratponce6423]

Me especially that line "you have met a terrible fate, haven't you?" It creeps me out

[@petercravero6197]

Ellie Carver oh my god me too. Right when i saw the title, i whispered "......._oh_my_god_ben... "

[@David-we4mf]

Ahhhhh the old intro

[@KjetilT2]

omg

[@parzival9651]

omg his old channel

[@Tirujin]

My Name Is Skr1llex ...

[@damianedmundcincurak2657]

This theory would all be well and good except for that fact that the next game in the timeline (Twilight Princess) has made it pretty clear that the hero of Twilight is a direct descendant of the hero of time. So unless Link already had a family at the age of 10 before he "died" looking for Navi than I don't think this theory works.

[@kanthanesan3602]

Descendant doesn't need to be related by blood They could mean descendants of the chosen one

[@annieandelsieofarendelle3294]

@@kanthanesan3602 He is his descendant by blood and even Aunoma confirmed that Link was not dead in MM

[@mattyluvspokemon08]

This is one of my all time favourite game theory videos as the evidence is really interesting and very well explained. Whether you believe the theory or not I think there's a lot to think about with it and it's not entirely unplausable like people try to say. Plus this video taught me about a really important thing: The 5 stages of grief, like in detail, I had never heard of it until this video and I think it's really interesting and has surprisingly been something I could bring up repeatedly at school college and university and has given something interesting to think about. At the end of the day, it's a theory... A GAME THEORY ;)

[@AJ-hk2kv]

Songs in this video: (2023 update!) 0:38 = Soul Blazer - Title Theme 2:00 = Terranigma - Underworld 4:11 = Lufia II - Parting 6:05 = Soul Blazer - The Shrine of the Master 7:55 = Lufia II - The Abysmal Depths of the Ocean 11:19 = Terranigma - Elle's theme 12:13 = Gimmick! - Strange Memories of Death

[@hirotrum6810]

My savior

[@shook198]

Nice.❤

[@J99___]

🤩🤩🤩

[@santiagoduran766]

Excellent thanks

[@dampy3771]

I LOVE YOU

[@alejandromedrano6366]

I always thought he returned to hyrule and served as a royal guard, but now I... I still believe that, c'mon the stalfos is adult size

[@Attackontrashcan]

"Those who get lost in the woods become stalfos,and children become the skull kids" -either oot tp or Hyrule historia

[@Attackontrashcan]

SPOILERS in to the hero's shade is comfirmed to be oot/mm link and tp link is blood related to him

[@grafzpln2344]

@@Attackontrashcan so who did Link have *B* ex with

[@Attackontrashcan]

@@grafzpln2344 most likey malon since his decedent's are farmers and/or ranchers (oddly enough malon and link are alot like my parents) that and to link knows eponas song

[@frankspice2123]

true as a stalfos can only be created by a person being killed as an ADULT and is your a child you would become a skull kid

[@vendettaknight104]

You and PBG should do more videos together. Two of my favorite channels wrapped in one.

[@shaboomcrack]

I’ve watched this video too many times to count it’s legendary

[@No0bSlasher]

Fr

[@snovaluv]

Me at 0:45: Dammit! Me at 0:45 a second time:WHY?!! THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN A ROW THIS HAPPE... oh... Why didn't I wait?

[@snovaluv]

Dabda Me: do the dab everyone.

[@vilivejo]

hahahah same😂😂😂

[@lunareclipse3078]

I thought you were me bc we have the same profile picture! XD I saw it an went, "was I hacked?" then I noticed your name XD

[@dannygamboa9739]

+vilivejo ok

[@saphirafox4995]

KZbin actually ended up crashing 13 seconds later for me and I thought it was part of the video still. X3

[@skywalkershand2338]

All I can think about is Ben Drowned.

[@geminiismeh1012]

me too 😃

[@shinasmith7147]

Lol

[@cocoadoggo]

Thought I was the only one-

[@lachs_rocks4429]

...*giltches*

[@Attackontrashcan]

That story got me back into gaming :)

[@naut7845]

I remember watching this video when it first came out. These zelda theories were some of my favorite and I still occasionally watch to this day. Thank you for everything Matpat… you will be missed

[@donninjagames130]

Why does Matpat sound more sane here 💀

[@thedarkages6476]

He’s still not working on fnaf yet

[@clipbit]

Maybe the real theory is that Nintendo wanted to reuse the character models XD

[@torresruben6556]

Yep XD

[@aydriano]

Jay Ce Actually Majora’s mask was supposed to be a DLC bonus of Ocarina. But Nintendo was then like f**k it as released it as a full game but were too lazy to change the models and crap. There you go

[@bornfrompain-rp2bd]

Only had 1 year to make the game

[@icantthinkofagoodname4130]

Only had a year to make the game dip crips

[@JohnDoe-nm3lg]

HuffPuff Gamer well how does ac n cod come out good every year

[@NewWaveMasquerade]

One of the ways I’ve interpreted Majora’s Mask is that at the end of Ocarina of Time Link defeats Gannon, saves the Princess, saves the world and becomes a child again. He pretty much has fulfilled his destiny by the age of 10; anyone in that situation would wonder to themselves- “What purpose does my life have now, what’s left?” So I view Link’s journey in Majora’s Mask is him searching for the meaning of his existence in a new land and by collecting numerous masks that have their own unique design as well as different powers. This can be seen as a metaphor for Link having an identity crisis and part of this journey is a quest for him to find himself. But that’s just my theory.

[@MrBKainX]

your game theory!!!

[@jps7]

Valid theory‼️ (i’m so late)

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

My favorite theory of his. We will miss you, matpat.

[@cameronhodgetts920]

Anyone here watching after MatPat announced his retirement?

[@sheepisleep]

I'm surprised you never mentioned how link was constantly using the song of healing to "heal" or make people accept their fate. Also in the long run heal his own heart and make him accept his own fate to escape purgatory.

[@Meganomore]

this will always be one of my favorite theories, mainly because it was one of my first ones and seems to have SO MUCH EVIDENCE

[@alejandromedrano6366]

twilight princess is enough to prove it wrong

[@Austar7]

I don't know. It has a bunch of holes. This video should explain it; kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqm3l2ien9uCebc

[@SotiCoto]

If I remember rightly, this was the first Game Theory I watched.

[@captaincam331]

the nostalgia is emanating from this video

[@triforcehero0325]

Doesn't the hyrule history also state that if you die as a child in the lost woods, you become a skull kid, not a stalfos, unless you are an adult.

[@bop1068]

I think it did -theory busted- Xd

[@jojogaming1013]

Hem... Nobody can get what you try to say... Read yourself, you make no sense...

[@ArtblockInsomniac]

While that is true, there is the possibility that the reason he is on purgatory to begin with is his regret of dying as a child. In OoT, he becomes and adult and goes on an epic adventure, and would feel regret knowing he would never actually grow into an adult and have another adventure. MM is his way to cope. One last adventure that you can repeat over and over until you are ready to move on. Once he realizes he doesn't need his quest anymore, he matures into an adult (he looks about that age it would happen anyway) and tries to pass on. That's why the main enemy is a skull kid. It's what link is afraid of becoming.

[@YeahTheDuckweed]

I wish I could drop more than 1 like for you, Caitlin; that was near-flawless. I'm convinced. It's worth noting, I feel, that Skull Kid's wearing a mask for practically the entire time he's been on-screen at all. He's always...hiding...something, or *from* something. Masks are definitely a great way to convey hidden meanings and twist feelings, What a perfect game.

[@laurelb.9504]

well Link's been an adult as well as a kid, maybe the fact that he's mastered time has something to do with it. his appearance is determined by whether he has the kokori sword or the master sword sure, but maybe the transformation has more to do with the age of a person's soul. idk, just a thought

[@nik4244]

This is always gonna be a classic video

[@amuzarill423]

Shame it is completely, 100% wrong.

[@Idk-pr2nd]

@@amuzarill423 we know it's wrong cause we see link land on a deku flower but I like watching it again

[@cricket_price4633]

@@amuzarill423 at the time it was a THEORY. A game theory.

[@paulrance5445]

But it was immediately disproven when TP came out.

[@cricket_price4633]

@@paulrance5445 yes. It was wrong. You know why that's okay tho? It was a theory!

[@flufla-wi3yz]

We are going to miss you matpat

[@tajhaith2175]

Memories of watching this and then blowing my friends’ minds back in middle school..the good ol days..

[@epicstopmotions6589]

wtfffffff

[@derodainfamous]

I thought this said blowing my friends

[@TheMidnighttea]

You missed something rather important. The chronology of the number "4" throughout Majora's Mask. You use four forms for most of the game's puzzles, there are four major story arcs/dungeons, there are four giants, etc. etc. -- in Japan, the number "4" is heavily symbolic of death. It's notable that the beginning of the fourth day is game over *except* at the very end of the game -- when Link has accepted his own death. But it's just a theory...!

[@RicardoSanchez-fp8oq]

A game theory?

[@TheMidnighttea]

Right, that! :D

[@GabrielUzumaki100]

Thanks for watchin'!

[@M4ttHatt3r]

A GAME THEORY! I'm sorry. I had to;)

[@Sebastia9101]

*science blaster plays*

[@tasteslikedog9340]

0:44 I always check my WiFi after that. Anyone else get fooled?

[@hildarubi2001]

Waffles Mcjiggins me

[@Keshaire]

Nah, because KZbin doesn't even do that anymore. Back in 2013 though, that was like every video. Lmao

[@jojogaming1013]

Ha ha! I didn't...

[@jules6023]

Waffles Mcjiggins me Idk why lmao

[@coralmaynard4876]

I almost did... but just before I could do anything, the error message appeared and I wasn't in control, so I waited to find out it was supposed to be a way to get someone else to join.

[@kevinhalo27]

Will always be my favorite video on this channel, can’t believe it was made 10 years ago

[@SDKaiba]

Still the best Zelda video on KZbin.

[@Yo5463]

This video was impactful in my life. I got into the whole of The Legend of Zelda because of it. It was at a time just after school where I was bullied and overworked. I didn't even remember what I enjoyed doing and Majora's Mask reminded me playing video games was one of those things. I came back to the video because I remember it filled my head with expectations of deep messages about death which Majora's Mask didn't really have even if it was so good. And it is now that I'm playing Persona 3 and finally it explores these themes with excruciating detail. Play it if you have the chance. The story is illuminating

[@Vraptor1]

MatPat: “You’ve met with a terrible fate, haven’t you?” Me: Ben Drowned

[@ZhannaXAce]

Sonic The hedgehog same

[@ahshit2900]

David Andrews yep

[@Foxo700_2]

David Andrews OH GOD NO PLEASE NO, NO,NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@couch_philosoph3325]

My 15 year old self was very traumatized of that story. I now have the strong urge to see whether i still am scared by it

[@couch_philosoph3325]

Adrian Mendoza well i watched it again (I'm 20 now) and i am not scared anymore, but wasn't comfortable either. I always found majoras mask to be kinda weird, but only after the "ben drowned" thing, i have found it really creepy. And i still find the game creepy

[@eldenburgjacob]

Why I’m I getting this in my recommended 9 years later

[@WittyProfileName]

The fact that this video is almost 10 years old is insane to me.

[@NewKamezor]

Considering the time constraints they had making this game. Re-using the models and going with the grieving stages was a stroke of genius.

[@BobBulb]

Link can't be dead. According to Hyrule Historia, TP Link is of the same bloodline as MM Link, meaning he must have survived into adulthood. Also, you turn into a Stalfos when you get lost, not when you die. Even if I'm wrong there, children get turned into Skull Kids. I think the claim about the 5 stages sounds believable, though if it does represent Link grieving anything and not just the townspeople grieving what will soon be their own deaths, then he's probably grieving Navi. Despite this, it's still a pretty well made video. I don't mean to hate, just trying to point something out.

[@Majoran.]

You're right about that. Another thing is that Hyrule Historia says the Hero's Shade is a ghost instead of a stalfos which shows Link didn't die in the Lost Woods.

[@QuikVidGuy]

The "blood flowing through his veins" refers to him being a reincarnation

[@vtcbatman2444]

The timeline is pretty much just BS fanservice

[@cluborronn]

They are literally reincarnations of the same person. They aren't related by blood, but by soul

[@honestred7600]

I agree that Link is most likely going through the grieving process over Navi and that he is not dead, but it's likely MM takes place in Link's head like Link's Awakening. It seems more likely that Navi died or vanished at the end of OoT, and that Link needs to learn accept the loss of his friend. It also seems to me that Twilight Princess Link is the son of Link and Malon from OoT. Reason being that TP seems to take place a generation after OoT because the girls that run the fishing / rafting cabin are the daughters of the OoT fisherman. Also clearly TP Link grew up on a ranch and Ordon Village is located between where Lon Lon Ranch and Kikori Village where.

[@Absurdtheistic]

Man... I was 11 when I first watched this. Thank you, Mat Pat. You were a big part of my teenage years and early childhood

[@majinsawdust64]

This video prompted me to play Majora’s Mask again and now that I’ve seen this video the stages of grief are so obvious whenever I speak to anyone.

[@bagelpenguin6499]

"this is no place for one as full of life as you..." -sharp the composer brother

[@kiyo1396]

YES!

[@Cinnawolf3037]

Yes a true ginus give him a most smartest person who has ever lived

[@peanutbutter9345]

Was wondering when someone would say this

[@beo191]

perhaps he wasnt completely dead at that point and he actually finally died after riding into the fog..?

[@xa447]

"Needing Google + to see comments" Oh if only you knew

[@frosted_glaceon5513]

I kinda missed this old intro but I also love the newest one. No matter how long it's been this is still my favorite game theory video.

[@AncientYaky]

Was feeling nostalgic and came back to this. Love the theory