Game Theory: Is Link's Quest in Majora's Mask Pointless?

[@arttukettunen5757]

Wait, if the majora's moon is that small with that mass, it wouldn't create those changing tides or orbits unless Termina is also small... Edit: it would also require that the gravitational constant in Termina would be far greater than on earth, assuming that termina is much smaller in mass than earth. Objects on termina wouldn't still affect each other with a noticeable amount of force. The moon coming closer just will make people able to jump a bit higher under it. But yeah it's the Zelda multiverse ofc the constant can be higher.

[@jcahill2303]

I mean Termina is said to be entirely created by the Skull Kid after he wears Majora's Mask, and Termina disappears soon after Link leaves it

[@DrMonty-yr1kc]

@@jcahill2303 Termina is a physical place, not imagination of anyone

[@kryectic1077]

@@DrMonty-yr1kc it was majoras imagination terminator is a alternate reality wich is why everyone is familiar

[@evanbookout]

Ye

[@digstrememcdingus1463]

The planet Hyrule is on is probably in scale with that moon similar to our Earth

[@GameTheory]

The scariest moon in gaming isn't so scary! So now that we've done Zelda, what game series should be next? Mega Man? Kirby? Half Life? Something else? Let me know!

[@MaxonerousX]

Wouldn't termina have to be insanely small for the gravitational pull of the moon to effect anything?

[@ATrueGremlin]

Wolf Leaper I would actually like to see an episode dedicated to Spyro. It seems very interesting. Brilliant idea, friend.

[@patsywatson2872]

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[@eden7010]

I want something about Half Life

[@giovannimalave9963]

Darksouls

[@monk9816]

If the moon fell in Windwaker, it would be a Sailor Moon... This is not Funny.

[@luckyanimates9404]

XDD

[@CabeliotCometier]

Anonymous if skull kid had a disease it would have a 100% terminal ratio

[@sanicstream4762]

Yay😀 recent viewers

[@ChristyTina22]

LMFAO

[@billnyetheaquaticfly]

ITS JUST A F****G GAME ,THEROIST . YOU ARE GOING TO MUCH INTO THIS.

[@osyazthegreat9093]

Wait a sec Is the moon even big enough to exert that kind of gravitational pull?

[@Arverick]

No, the one in the game no. A moon that small would not change the orbit significantly enough

[@OfficialBulldozerStudios]

But if this were REAL LIFE, and a moon the size of ours was falling like that... Yeah, you saw the video. You know the rest. XD

[@najdalsekhan5721]

U mean termina’s, or our’s?

[@OfficialBulldozerStudios]

@@najdalsekhan5721 *LOL* definitely not Termina's moon. The Earth's roche limit would shread that thing to pieces before it was even a visible spec in the sky.

[@ilu9079]

It is, supposed it’s having a higher density and volume than matpat calculated. Besides the volume, the speed of the moon while orbiting and its distance come into play too. There’s a stupid high amount of stuff to calculate to determine if it could exert that pull. Incl the facts of the planet. The planet needs a certain volume and density too to not be affected by the gravitational pull of the moon etc etc. But termina seems to be super tiny either, not to mention that it’s apparently either imagination or alt reality

[@Rissoe_Really]

*why does the moon ger bigger and has a scary face?* we will be right back

[@lazercrusader9608]

@@dracqua13 because its a video game......dont hurt youreself (no offense)

[@brawlbeast2765]

It doesn't get bigger it j just seems that way because it's getting closer

[@scorpion-76-]

@@dracqua13 because in the story its not a real moon that moon is created by majora and if you look at his design he look just like majora

[@themightyukauka645]

@Natalia Merkulov well uh..... .-. The mighty uka uka will just leave now .. why do I even go near the moons

[@SXR123_YT]

I'd like to see what kind of effects that blowing up half the moon would have (sonic adventure 2) on the world.

[@Geejay412]

death

[@njd9026]

The moon irl is just a grain of sand when the earth sees it ngl

[@gadazlin6264]

Damn... sonic after 7 years? Legend 🙌

[@imaheadout2639]

IPISSEDONTHEMOONYOUIDIOT

[@lucabarchiesi5321]

It's cool to see that some people come too visit this video to these days, also it would be very cool as idea for a video!

[@adammote2528]

God remember when all of his theories were just 10 minutes of math

[@johntheherbalistg8756]

I'm ok with that. I like the lore videos, but the gritty math ones are awesome, too

[@somerandompersonwhomakesmu9942]

Ah the good old days

[@rc59191]

Times were more simple and beautiful.

[@logfitz7000]

Brother those were the day, he's always been a legend

[@waldendoom3783]

No

[@ashiyyn]

Old Game Theory episodes are so fun to back and watch after so many years. Brings back nostalgia.

[@annagreen4835]

I like this theory, however gravitational force depends on how massive and how dense an object is. If the planet Termina is on is roughly the size of Earth, and the moon remains at the same size you depicted, the gravitational force exerted on to the planet would be next to nothing. As the moon gets closer, Earth (or whatever planet Termina is on) would exert a stronger gravitational pull on it, and big ol' nightmare moon wouldn't be able to counteract it with its own gravitational pull. Because that moon is so small, and so much less dense than the world of Zelda would be, and traveling at such a slow rate towards Earth (Which is wrong by the way because as the moon would get closer, gravitational pull would get stronger and the moon would be pulled in faster so it wouldn't be constant) it would stop on the ground and just stay there, a bulging mass that isn't even as tall as some of our mountains. Now, big eye-moon might not destroy the entire world, but it would destroy Clocktown as it is shown that it does tower over it in size (which is extremely strange for a town to be so small) and the buildings wouldn't be able to support its mass. Regardless, this moon is the equivalent of an extremely slow baseball being thrown at one of those giant see-through balls that people get in and run across water.

[@sailormars5817]

The only hole in that theory is that skull kid is summoning it, remember that, so if he was able to summon it onto the ground, most life form would have been crushed. How's that for a one sentence counter theory?

[@sailormars5817]

He has enough control to move it down, so he could roll it around a bit,right?

[@scooberdoober7768]

Sailor Mars So that means it would crush him to. Right?

[@patrickwilliamson29]

Anna Green Also considering how small the moon is, I think the majority of it would be broken up by the earth's atmosphere, thus reducing its mass and gravitational pull. I think the moon would end up being similar to a small asteroid, which hits our earth every once in a while but does little damage

[@murphyminecraft1133]

Anna Green My brain hurts

[@kidfury7820]

AHHH SO MUCH MATH.i guess you could call him #MATHPAT I'm out

[@K4ndieboi]

Dude yes

[@fearsama5306]

khrisnlauren w

[@Bhadhbh]

#MATHPAT

[@CynthShiira]

khrisnlauren w 0:00 sonic lol

[@Pacrisvi]

khrisnlauren w pppppppp

[@ilovetheottawasens]

With the announcement of Matpat's retirement I couldn't resist coming back and re-watching the first Game Theory episode I saw.

[@DJFransZbear]

Same here, I fell in love with the channel after hearing "Oar Arr Wii"

[@bulmer2759]

Impressive but... 1. What if it’s a bomb disguised as a moon 2. Clock town is probably not on earth, it’s most likely in another dimension so it’s characteristics could be different to that of earth 3. If it is only exerting 36j of energy how is it going to affect earth’s gravitational pull that much

[@loganwofford8452]

It has been confirmed that termina is an alternate dimension version of hyrule

[@spaceocelot35]

I have to point out how incredibly small majora's moon is. (smaller than the Great Pyramid of Giza) Therefore it would have a very weak gravitational pull (if we're assuming that it's as dense as Earth's moon like it was in his calculations). So, it would not be as much of an apocalyptic event as he claims. It's basically just a meteor (space rocks smaller than 100 meters are considered meteoroids and then meteor if they're in the Earth's atmosphere). It would only cause localized damage (if it weren't falling so slowly). At most it would just crush the tower and sit in the center of the town at the rate it is falling. By the way, majora's moon is basically defying gravity by falling that slowly and not at all accelerating. Also, the planet is not rotating beneath the "moon". It doesn't take a highly educated astronomer to point these out. Also, is this the only moon that orbits this planet? Because you'd need a good size moon like our own to keep the planet's rotation stable making the planet livable. And there's no way that majora's moon would be able to do that. I could keep on ranting about this if I wanted. I'm always quick to identify the little details that are inaccurate.

[@jamiescherm1314]

TL;DR

[@toxickandy9669]

Means termina's moon is too small to effect the planets ecosystem. Also, isn't the moon basically hollow? Making it's mass much much lower.

[@andimbritish6933]

Good job.

[@fuyumi6845]

Avery G. Thanks! I see yout point

[@magiccrabs2829]

???

[@flaffed9534]

4:45 if the moon in Majora's mask had the same density as ours, it would have disintegrated the moment it entered the atmosphere.

[@skyecolu]

@Dcvbkyrsscbgdsxcgf basic science

[@dewightrobinson986]

Even if it had it it would not because it's under magic magic beats sicence

[@thedillybarboy]

Oh yeah that's true

[@Neoentrophy]

Its true that the outer surface would begin to ablate, the sheer mass would see it touch down mostly intact

[@njd9026]

Would agree ngl

[@cyberbitzz8178]

majors mask s moon is waaaaaay toooo small to have a noticeable gravitational pull

[@digstrememcdingus1463]

The planet Hyrule is on seems to be pretty small too. It's main setting is a small country with few inhabitants

[@johnfulcher8448]

Adi Wadi yeah but no matter how small it is the moon wouldn't impact it's waters or axis because it's just not big enough to even have it's own pull on ordinary objects much less a planetoid

[@EJJaws]

This was the very first game theory video I watched as a kid and I loved it. We’ll miss you Matt pat

[@Everything-Avery]

I feel that so much I’m literally crying

[@fade0310]

You know it's sad when a snail can beat a moon in a race

[@cleavly7706]

Majora really needs to step up their game..

[@Gellert05]

Screaming Eagle yes it is plus an animal 10 seconds slower could look like a car to that moon

[@thegamingnerfer1498]

lol

[@fable23]

It's a shame you didn't apply the same mathematical scrutiny you used to calculate the Tiny Terminian Moon's mass to calculate its gravitational pull, which in all likelihood would be pretty negligible. :P Truth be told, given that the moon dissolves into a rainbow at the end of the game, I'm going to assume it isn't Termina's actual moon at all, but rather a giant magical bomb shaped like a moon. Since, you know, getting rid of the moon would also be pretty catastrophic.

[@hisuitiki4822]

I was going to say the same thin, then I saw your comment :)

[@SuperDuperSonicSpeed]

***** We'll probably kill ourselves long before that even happens with nukes.

[@TheMadeupperson3]

Wouldn't the sun swallow up the Earth before it exploded? Ignore the fact that should an explosion occur, the Earth would undoubtedly swallowed up by it, but the sun would become a red giant, swallowing up most of the planets, if not the first four, right?

[@weedidi7144]

Dang, I'm 3 weeks too late to point it out.

[@Senny_V]

***** with nukes? how about with something actually logical like global warming cause who would actually use nukes in war in this day and age? war is all about territory and power, and completely obliterating a territory so you cannot use it for your own cause is damn stupid. the nukes are only used as a way of dick comparison, to have hypothetical pressure on others

[@NintendoCapriSun]

I knew from the start that the speed was going to be a big factor in it. You know what else is funny. This means that each of the four entities summoned by the Oath to Order is only there to stop 9 apples worth of force each. As for dangerous weather occurrences, granted we do have the Great Bay Temple problem. Still nothing that a giant turtle can't handle.

[@ntkn]

thats just the energy exerted, im pretty sure the weight of the moon alone would crush the entire town and still kill ALOT of people who decided to stay.

[@aqthefanattic7933]

Wow... Didn't thought I'd see you here :D

[@weirdthings1104]

hmm... tiny problem i know nothing about! *types whole paragraph

[@jkhines]

"All the great cities would be flooded!" So, basically the events of Splatoon.

[@lillieice5287]

J. K. Haech sadly yes

[@jetstream9406]

Splatoon is the official sequel to Major's Mask

[@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry]

@MARY GREEN not funny meme

[@Paladen_X]

Ahh back to the good 'ol days

[@SuncrispCore]

I think a bigger problem in Termina is its 24 minute day cycle.

[@duncanash5124]

@SuperDude Comedy, Skits and Gaming Like, ridiculously late.

[@tuurhoutvast3098]

yeah schouldt skull kid also have done that

[@eeeeee8762]

You forgot the fact that skull kid speeds the moon up

[@snow9123]

True

[@_simon.s_]

I mean, he does have Majora's Mask...

[@jaxtonlango3287]

And magic

[@kennymccormic5025]

:O

[@theproatpubg0693]

Oh god no

[@SquareFoil31362]

It will do a lot of damage, it might not be large but look at this quote: "I will... I will consume everything." BOOM!!!!! mic drop.

[@darkyagami5681]

you meant "I...I Will Consume... Consume... Consume EVERYTHING"

[@njd9026]

Dude, earth can consume the ENTIRE thing and it will make the earth 75 meters (I think)

[@chriscarr1342]

@@darkyagami5681 🤬🤬🤬🤣

[@sim-pli-s-te4015]

Imagine a huge snail dropping from the sky

[@insertusernamehere8324]

That’s basically what is happening in this game.

[@neuro1073]

Gamer Noko yes. That’s what Cheese Boi is saying. No need to clarify.

[@digstrememcdingus1463]

I wonder if people would preserve and auction the goop years afterwards?

[@sim-pli-s-te4015]

i mean that would be like selling dirt

[@Pu14unkiihooiV]

@@sim-pli-s-te4015 Yeah that is basically what is happening what Neuro says Gamer Noko saying happening what Cheese Boi is saying so no need to clarify

[@GandalfTheTsaagan]

Wait a moment, if Majora's moon is that small compared to our moon, wouldn't it's gravity affect the planet much less than the actual?

[@Soccerguyz]

I was thinking the same thing

[@thekingofgaminggaming7701]

Unless the planet link is on is not dearth but in fact a smaller different planer

[@Joserass18]

Yep, it would have no effect whatsoever over the planet's gravity field while in orbit. Though i'm not sure if supercharging that little moon's density would give it more realism :l

[@jacksykes3497]

Ditto

[@Arrowdance]

+The King of Gaming Gaming I think the same. The planet of the Zelda series is not earth.

[@AngryNerdBird]

I feel like there's not much point in arguing physics since magic was clearly involved in the whole mess. It wasn't falling as a result in natural physics, so... Also, if you fail to stop it in time, the whole region is visibly nuked, and Link ends up thrown back in time to try again. So it's evidently a pretty clear and present danger.

[@gigabic7487]

Yeah, none of the theories presented regarding the destruction make any sense when we have an actual scene in which said destruction occurs. I think that magic made the moon all explosive and apocalyptic. That, or someone put a few nukes in there.

[@calvaughan27]

Gigabic Look, if that moon crashed into that planet, that destruction, does not take place.

[@davek14]

basically what the vid is saying is that the explosion, based on real life physics, should have never even been possible. the moon would have crushed the tower, tumbled onto the town, and stopped rolling at the nearest cliff. there was also some climate related stuff but that all depends on the actual influence that tiny moon had on the planet.(which couldnt have been much)

[@markusmustermann3048]

Dave Konopka Also, the gravity in/on Termina is likely the same as on earth, so the moon is falling at a lower velocity than the laws of physics would cause.

[@godalmighty2991]

It's a game chill the fuck out.

[@thepredman9lol266]

I am calling Tingle a "Wiggles reject" from now on!

[@lockmelon3055]

how do americans know what the wiggles are?

[@window3705]

How do you know what slime rancher is

[@thepredman9lol266]

Yeah I know. I'm aussie, and I grew up with the wiggles.

[@phyllisriley9955]

thePredman#9 lol ttttt

[@phyllisriley9955]

thePredmio_56co

[@aperson8342]

Matt pat didn't realize that major as moon isn't the moon, it's actually a moon created my majoras mask

[@isaaca.garcia8958]

I didn't understand a single thing of what you just said.

[@Jessica_Schweser]

Isaac A.garcia There saying Majora’s Mask created the moon that’s falling and it’s not the actual moon.

[@isaaca.garcia8958]

@@Jessica_Schweser oh. Thanks 👍

[@RetroGameDays36]

Its still a moon

[@isaaca.garcia8958]

@@RetroGameDays36 a small moon. But a moon.

[@RetrogirlChannel]

I never saw the moon "falling". For me it was more like it was being pulled by magic and wouldn't stop at the clock tower. The moon would keep going as you can also see in the final cutscenes before the battle. The skull kid let out a scream which turned the moon's eyes red and all the sudden the 4 giants having difficulty holding the moon back. So? Also your last point , wasn't that about IF the moon has the same size as our? If its much smaller, its gravitation would mostly likely do barely to none damage before "hitting" the earth. Its like saying a giant space ship as the size of the majoras mask moon would kill us all by just being near our planet. you see for at least 3 days in the game that the moon facing clock town. So people on the other side of the world aren't even seeing the moon at all, since its not rotating like a normal moon would. And the reason for that is magic. It being hold in place by a force from majoras mask.

[@purplediamond7428]

Retrogirl honestly, your theory makes a lot of sense

[@Sonicjan]

I don't know, but isn't that moon also CREATED by magic?

[@snowball9241]

Retrogirl I always thought that the regular moon was there and that the majora moon was a second one. So there were two in the sky. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@Komische1Frage]

you are right. Only the characters in the towns are talking about the moon falling, since they don't know about Majoras Mask. The moon is obviously pulled by it's power.

[@anti-amourshipping2238]

Retrogirl that's just a theory... A PROBABLY TRUE THEORY!

[@MrDeathCell]

The Majora moon is not big enough to cause fluctuation in the earth orbit the best it could do is make a few wave or rise the water 1 or 2 cm.

[@KillTheFuture42]

i don´t realy think that a objekt with just about 60m width and a mass this little would even have any realy effects on the planet. sure a real moon would do, but not this little piece of stone, even if we assume that the planet is way smaller than the earth.

[@daniellewandowski6945]

KillTheFuture42 well if it fell faster it would deal a lot of damage

[@Grapefruit5000]

KillTheFuture42 Well, but then we also have to assume that it wouldn't fall as slowly as it does but actually much faster.

[@daniellewandowski6945]

KillTheFuture42 that's why we can't assume anything the speed it's falling at is extremely slow. Only explanation it's magical

[@hotdogeswag261]

KillTheFuture42 Exactly. It is too small. What is 62 meters of diameter? 0.62 Kilometers? That's nothing. A great spaceship can be worse if we use this logic. The moon's too small to do damage or orbital anomalies as MatPat presents.

[@abox6989]

THAT WAS LITERALLY THE POINT OF THE VIDEO.

[@mckingkoopa]

The moon falling:YEET Link: not for me (plays time song) TIME TRAVEL SCIENCE Majora:dang it

[@Scary_Snail129]

Majors: mission failed, we’ll get-’em next time

[@njd9026]

Link is just GER but with no barrage

[@advancedtrash7585]

OH NO THE MOON IS FALLING!!! *moon lands* ......... isn't there suposed t be an explosion?

[@paralleldiscord9512]

Where's the kaboom? There's supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom!

[@nigerianprince9612]

*PEW* there it is

[@Ladygagita1]

Cat lover Meow meow LOOK AT MY NAME!

[@rickypedia999]

Oar arr wii.

[@speedzebra6613]

Omg your the Illuminati from gravity falls!

[@TheJavonplayer]

There is no way game creators thought of this!

[@BekahLeigh]

I rate it

[@choroka]

i r8 8/8 gr8 m8

[@wakemeup8848]

Nope

[@okey7281]

javon player your profile picture goes with that

[@virginiacanfield2307]

javon player how do you know? are you a game creator?

[@acdcfunk]

You are wrong. Although I agree with the disasters that the moon would make if it changes it's distance with the planet, you can't really take in consideration the gravity of Majora's moon when it's mass is so little compared to our moon, or even a real moon.

[@avena7506]

How nostalgic is it to see the old game theory intro in late 2019?

[@roboteacat]

Early 2020.

[@Gaareth_]

I liked it better tbh, BUT HEY that's just taste, personal taste.

[@monke6912]

Or 2021

[@wolfetteplays8894]

2022

[@GabeNewellDFTBA]

Those rapture-like symptoms of the moon getting closer only applies to our moon. Majora's moon is much much smaller, so the effect would be far different.

[@zyad48]

thats true since the moon is much bigger and if it crashed then it'd be so huge it'd make us scared out of our wits, but here... that moon is a little shit

[@ib24556]

you're forgetting a key element, the moon in majora's mask must have been much closer to the planet then our moon, the moon doesn't simply falls onto the planet due to gravitation, for termina's moon to fall onto to the planet that slowly and to still have made such a good progress in such a short time he should have been vary close already, hack, it would take it over a year to cross the the first level of the atmosphere. and as you know the more an object gets closer to you, its gravitational force is stronger. while it is tiny, any increase in the gravitational force that moon may have would be extreme and would have devastating effects, think about it, because our moon is so far away, that small a change in its distance wouldn't be that critical, in fact, our moon is actually gets a few meters further away from the earth each year, but it will take about a million years or so before there will be any effects on the earth climate from it.

[@zyad48]

Itay Bryt true but it wouldn't destroy the planet

[@ib24556]

Minecast Zyad48 the gravitational consequences, even if our moon were to get closer, would not be the destruction of earth either, it would make the earth inhospitable for life to exist on it, in other words the planet would still be there, but all life on it will come to an abrupt end, think about, why doesn't planet Venus has any life on it, because it is not hospitable for life due to its climate and the make up of its atmosphere, and that is due to it being closer to the sun than planet earth is, the same in reverse is true for Mars, because it is to far away from the sun, its climate is too cold and thus it isn't hospitable for life, the earth is in a perfect balance here, it is not too close and to far away from the sun, thus making it hospitable for life, and any change in that balance would make the earth inhospitable for life to exist on it.

[@zyad48]

Itay Bryt right, although if we were able to travel to mars and put up a facility that would keep the temperature at liveable levels then we could survive potentially since mars has water on it I assume it has an atmosphere that could house human life but only a small amount of it

[@OizenX]

The real question is why doesnt he just use the song of time to go back 4 days.

[@choroka]

***** the whole thing is still going to happen since link goes to search for navi

[@OizenX]

He could just...you know. Not get mugged in the forest in the first place.

[@onderstebovengames2603]

***** Yeah, because the second time he shoulda know...

[@creationrealm633]

Cause he duuuuuuhhhhmbb... I think... I'm not sure. I don't think so, but when you put it that way... Then again, I've never played any of the games...

[@katrinahogan2503]

***** :(

[@tdark987]

Silly nitpick, but if you watch the game over cutscene, you'll see that the moon actually explodes before it even touches the ground. It's this explosion that destroys everything around it and kills Link, not the impact. The same sort of thing has happened during some asteroid “collisions” on Earth, where the incoming asteroid actually explodes in the atmosphere before even reaching the ground. It still doesn't make a huge amount of sense in the grand scheme of things (the moon in Majora doesn’t have anywhere near the energy required for that), but it could maybe at least explain the destruction somewhat. Nuclear bombs are often designed to detonate before they hit the ground, to extend the blast radius. Maybe if we assume that Majora himself triggers the explosion that destroys termina from inside the moon then the resulting damage makes a little more sense; you’re then effectively looking at a 450 kiloton bomb rather than a 450000 ton piece of rock. It’s still completely absurd, but perhaps just slightly less absurd. XD

[@adelaidejordes9125]

Well, that wouldn't destroy the world. At least, I don't think it will. But the gravitational changes will wipe out the world.

[@tdark987]

​@@adelaidejordes9125 Well, that brings me to another silly nitpick... We don't actually see the moon destroy the world, only the area surrounding Clock Town, which is maybe 100 square miles at most. A mass of 450 thousand tons would have absolutely no measurable tidal/gravitational effects on a planet big enough to produce essentially the same gravity as the Earth, but a bomb of the same size would easily level an area of

[@jacobbroughton6565]

Do I have to read that all?

[@mercurialmagictrees]

Alyssa Jordes hmm interesting

[@siriusbillios7118]

Call in Phil Swift

[@dylanmcloughlin2187]

Wait, isn't the moon empty inside? Like doesn't it have that weird tree place inside? Wouldn't that make it like a giant rock balloon? Also, can't the magic increase the downward force? We see that happen just before Link enters the moon. Also, doesn't this mean that its low gravity wouldn't affect the world much? Also, gravity is magic in that world (as a separate universe it is very likely that the laws of Physics would be nothing like ours). This is proven when the gravity flips in the Stone Tower, but we are told by the Garo Master that all this is doing is flipping the placement of the moon and earth. This means that the center of gravity in this universe is intrinsic to certain points (and since none of the physics change we can assume that distance doesn't affect gravity) and that the celestial bodies are immune to gravity, as Termina doesn't immediately fall into the moon after they switch, despite its massive mass. (You may think that the moon falling to Termina disproves this, but remember, Majora had to push the moon toward Termina, it wasn't falling, it was being forced to move by magic.) And that small of a moon wouldn't have had such a disastrous effect on the weather. And this solar system may just be Geocentric as the stars make light without nuclear fusion (star fragments). In other words, the physics are different, so you can't compare things using our scientific laws.

[@natalia-mt1il]

That’s a lot of writing O-o

[@cryingcrane8173]

Great points dude

[@ravishoul1432]

No.

[@bluelandyaandgreenlandya1788]

I think he just wanted to do math without taking in-game lore into account, I mean, if he did then the video would be debunk instantly just from seeing the game over cutscene when the moon falls.

[@christopherspaulding9283]

Majora's earth-shattering moon is only that small??? What LUNAcy...

[@insertusernamehere8324]

Lol

[@najdalsekhan5721]

That’s because it was crashing into termina Edit:if we have a moon orbiting around us at more than 1000 km/h, and the termina see’s our moon, the termina moon would go:nop nop nop nop nop nop Mm Mmm, not today

[@kdg.2291]

Dude, if I was a Physics/Math teacher (which I'm not) I would have my problems based off of videogames!

[@diegonoriega3507]

4y after your comment was posted, and my dynamics exam was one question about calculating the potential energy and differential equations of motion for this setup

[@darryshan]

Surely a moon as small as that wouldn't have any large effects on gravity?

[@shmoppl3320]

WHEN THE MOON HITS YOUR EYE LIKE A BIG PIZZA PIE THAT’S AMORE, THAT’S AMORE

[@sunshineofepicness1815]

THIS COMENT NEEDS MORE LIKES

[@dabpolice2061]

This Video Helped me pass a Math Test 🤓

[@Dumbassfish63]

Wow

[@jose02reyes]

Rose Plays same

[@kevintreigle606]

Satria Sutena hi

[@szymonwarsocki3942]

Nicole Plays same xd

[@taizo3916]

Me to

[@UltraNerdyGamer]

I'd love a Kirby episode.

[@TheMornal]

A few issues with this one. 1. The moon is not big enough to effect the tides of anything of the sort in any meaningful way. 2. The moon is being pulled down by magic. I'm pretty sure magic and physics are sort of mutually exclusive.

[@somerandoontheinternet4224]

Dude if it is ssoooo small then its gravaty will be no big deal MATPAT

[@Zafoshin]

exactly

[@josephpinder5150]

that's not how gravity works it is due to the weight not the size *face palm*

[@gearfire123]

Your theory has one problem. The moon in Majora's Mask is no where near as massive as our moon, so the gravitational force it exerts would be a lot less. Their moon is the size of a city at best, so it's gravitational force wouldn't be powerful enough to cause all those disasters.

[@andietheviolist9177]

10:04: Church viewing this video state: “Dats God, dude”

[@therandomd2717]

It makes sense like it was programmed to work that way.

[@richardxu7251]

The later part is not scientific at all. By seeing how slowly the moon falls, Zelda Planet must have either a super dense atmosphere or a super weak gravity pull. And since the moon is so small who cares if it crashes?

[@TheJaggedCarpet]

In some of the comments here, it was suggested that the moon is simply a magical bomb that's set to go off at approximately the time when it would hit the ground. I seem to remember an interview with one of the producers, where he says that Termina's moon isn't of that world. I can't remember for sure, though.

[@kylec.9092]

Richard Xu What if the moon was sentient and was trying not to crash using its own gravity and will, but did anyway because the pull was too strong? The sudden snapback would explain why the town was obliterated with it then going from its initial speed to more than a hundred times that. But that's just a theory... a stupid theory!

[@SketchCast64]

What if it's just a game

[@SketchCast64]

Besides, the moon is just a giant space rock in this game. It's not the real moon.

[@Rokkoasas]

It's just a theory...

[@xxemii5679]

I honestly always thought that Majora’s Mask was similar to Alice in Wonderland in that Link falls down and wakes up in a dream-like place similar to the Hyrule that we’ve all come to know but it’s also not like Hyrule at all. (I’ll explain) (And yes, I’m aware that Alice in Wonderland is super different from the game, I’m just comparing the instances of “falling down” and waking up somewhere new) I played the game when I was younger and I still sort of feel that way about it. Throughout the game, after he “falls down”, Link sees people and things that he met/saw during the Ocarina of Time, but everything is different: the settings are different, the story is different and even the characters we see that were also in Ocarina of Time play completely different roles; To me, while I was playing the game, it was almost like Link was walking through this weird fever dream that happened in a place called Termina; a lot of the things and characters there were almost the same as they were in his previous quest but not really at the same time. Like, I was having serious deja vu when I played through both games when I was little. *I probably don’t even make any sense-*

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Or like Undertale/Dante’s Inferno

[@Ace-ts9nv]

ah the old intro

[@alan4f30]

friendly foxy Yasss

[@Somno_toska]

But if our moon is much bigger, and their moon is much smaller, wouldn't the gravitational effects be much... 'smaller' I guess?

[@Somno_toska]

Grumpy the Tentacle Knight It was just a theory. -A game theory-

[@Somno_toska]

Grim Looter Nah. -common sense-

[@Somno_toska]

Grim Looter eh

[@beehn7566]

Humm yeah

[@zenophilius1]

doesnt matter about size. Matters about density.

[@njd9026]

The moon: makes 36 joules of energy An Mnm’s candy bar: *I’m about to end this moon’s whole career*

[@VapeIsOp]

Rewarching old vids miss you matpat

[@Blazingice26]

Matt, You truly deserve so much more then us subscribers can give you, you deserve more then the single most subscribed man on the planet, you're videos are always well thought out, well scripted, the humor (while cringe-worthy) is well written, I just want to thank you for putting so much effort into something that does nothing but entertain us, with no benefit to yourself except the happiness of making others happy, so, from me, and everyone else, Thank you.

[@ethansavina4781]

Your so right, i'm sometimes sad that we can't give back all that much :(

[@ajcadin]

this is is absolutely crazy to read because this was my thoughts exactly 9 years ago

[@broaisland9003]

My first game theory episode, and my first exposure to not just Majorca’s Mask, but the entire Zelda series as a whole! Funny how a goofy internet video can change someone’s life in a profound way.

[@kerosan138]

I felt that.

[@foxpatternedferret476]

Lol now I get to say someone isn't a true fan of GT unless you've seen the crumpled paper background in the video haha /j

[@ahmed4363]

​@@foxpatternedferret476and tye Science Blaster intro

[@timoteoalban4151]

Do a theory on soul eater sun

[@yellformemyfriend7348]

Ask that to film theorist

[@arcadia_758]

I think that's more of a film theory then a game theory

[@timothyoligarchy6484]

Wrong channel

[@comradetomrade2184]

I think that the changing climate would not have of an impact on termina, if any at all, because you have got to take into account that the moon wouldn't have nearly the same gravitational pull of our moon, if any at all, and thus wouldn't change the climate in such a dramatic way.

[@timcao5687]

WAAIIT. would a moon that small actually affect anything?

[@crabestapler]

That depends on how big Termina actually is and the density could actually make up for the small size.

[@timcao5687]

Kyle Hodar mat pat should do theroy on it

[@fearing7]

+Kyle Hodar Too small an effect of gravity. The mass is too little.

[@linkthehero6634]

+Tim Cao gong that slow umm might a 2 foot deep hole

[@timcao5687]

John Edward Olesco but its sooooo slooowwwww

[@ZeroTwo-dn4vz]

So, am I the only one who noticed there was some Kingdom Hearts 2 soundtrack mixed in there?

[@TrebleMaestro]

Really ? OwO

[@jaypalacios516]

No I heard it too

[@MrBGP006]

The world that never was

[@himeistrying]

There was some ducktales and others too

[@TheFly3boy]

i caught on to that too maybe matpat will do a kh theory??

[@smokyjo5245]

My only question! Since you verified that the moon is a baby in comparison, would that floating mass even cause such drastic changes by being so close? It sounds like the description of climate change and what not would be from our moon, not a tiny one.

[@justadog8011]

When i saw the moon thing for the first time my mind was like, "Mm, Not scary." Honestly finding the source of the horrifying moon may give me nightmares. I never got nightmares from something. This cheered me up. Your animations are silly. Even more happiness. Thanks GameTheories. Oh and someone please hug me just watched the whole video, and boy. *THAT'S ALOT OF MATH*

[@RedVioletVODs]

Maybe some fallout related content? How long can humans survive in irradiated areas? Would animals really change so drastically to grow multiple heads or triple in size? How likely is a super mutant being a real thing?

[@tylerbennett4488]

If we are talking about a moon so light, would it even make that much of a difference? The Brooklyn bridge weighs like 20 million kilos and our planet seems fine to me.

[@jedmunro6524]

Tyler Bennett the Brooklyn bridge isnt falling towards earth at a million miles an hour...

[@sharky3825]

it is falling at 0.0001mph if you watched the video you dumb person

[@CatholicismRules]

Was .0001mph What Wolvescast said?

[@MesaztheCreeper]

SenseiJack he said a million mph

[@elementgermanium]

no he didnt

[@wesleythomas8135]

Too bad the moon in Majora's mask is too small to have a gravitational pull. Therefore there are no tides and no climate swings on what planet Link lives on.

[@KLUSTERIZER]

Everything generates a gravitational field, even the not-so-massive.

[@Letholldus]

Klesti Muco True, but the moon in Majora's mask is still too small to produce a large enough gravitational pull to really effect the planet.

[@KLUSTERIZER]

Trey Queen That is a true statement.

[@KLUSTERIZER]

Trey Queen Unless of course the moon in question has an insanely high density for its volume like a neutron star. Highly unlikely though.

[@YukonHexsun]

Yeah I was just thinking about that

[@diggychase]

I keep theorizing what would happen if the moon was crashing into earth and it took a weak for it to hit. You just cleared up all my mixed up assumptions, thank you.

[@bigstudwithaguitar]

His logic ate itself. For the purposes of his first argument (Kinetic energy calculation), he went out of his way to determine that the moon was (in this alternate reality) way way smaller than the real life moon. For the purposes of his second argument (the gravitational/tide argument) he assumed the moon was the same mass as the moon in OUR reality in order to say that it would destroy the delicate ecosystem on earth. If the planet link is on (presumably based on earth but different) is small enough for that moon to make differences to tide (even though he did use the standard estimate for the energy to destroy OUR Earth) perhaps the moon would be able to destroy it. If the planet link is on is standard Earth size, it would be fair to assume that the moon is too small to be effected by tide FROM THIS MOON (keep in mind, high tide never happened in the game, even though the moon was nearly crashing into earth. You could stand next to the coast all year and nothing would happen. Therefore, it would be fair to assume that the moon is really really small, and the Earth is standard Earth size. When you take all of this into consideration, the only logical explaination is this. The exceptionally small moon is going to destroy Clock town, but that's about it. Nobody will die, but the Town will be slowly committed to the ground. Link helped to stop THAT from happening. Not pointless. :)

[@datachange99]

Came here to see if someone already mentioned this. Thank you.

[@foofgam8700]

you forgot something. it is not that big so it doesn't have much gravity. termina has really low tides. no rising tides

[@justinkim4932]

Ethan Underwood it's not about size. It's density. Mat pat said that the density was the same, and the moon was extremely close,the tides would be huge enough to flood termina

[@aba12385]

Actually I'm pretty sure Ethan's more right than you considered Captain. Density is not the only think to worry about in gravity, but mass is what you need to consider. So, since the mass of this moon(more like asteroid and not even a big asteroid at that more like a pretty small asteroid one at 208' wide) is so little it would not be able to affect a planets tides as easily as our moon. It may be too small to do anything catastrophic to our tides no matter how close it got. The real question is what secret force is slowing the fall of the moon down so much. It should be falling much much faster than it currently falls. So some unknown force must actually be slowing it down to the point that it can just land gently on the ground, but possibly this energy when actually contacting something other than this moon is being released and destroying the town.

[@trashcubed2123]

It has the same density he said, but not the same mass. If you had a whole planet made out of stone or just a pebble, the density would be the same, but the mass would be different. Or am I mistaking? Please correct me if so.

[@Kringle308]

TheIndieReviewer You're correct. Density=mass/volume. As long as it's made up of the same material, then the density stays the same and the mass and volume are different. Matt is assuming that both moons are cut from the same type of rock without any proof.

[@YukonHexsun]

If a moon that size would affect tides just because it's a moon made out of material as dense as moon rock, you might as well say that the moon rocks brought back to Earth by astronauts would cause tides. This thing's puny.

[@NiallByrne]

Here is a theory , in Pokemon, the animals are Pokemon and this would be a follow up from you previous vid about Pokemon evolution but all Pokemon come from the one ancestor, mew. so did humans evolve from Pokemon? in Pokemon humans capture Pokemon. but in was mentioned in gen 4 that humans walked along side Pokemon as equals. there was also mention of a war in gen 1 and 6. was this war a fight for dominance of the Pokemon vs human? were humans really the most dominant Pokemon of all? and did humans in the Pokemon world evolve from Pokemon???

[@TheFonzieCommunity]

I’m going to miss matpat, but I also missed when he did the math; because even when I felt bored with it. It was enjoyable when he did it!! I learned more math than I did at times in school!!

[@ThunderGamer-sq3em]

man, the 1 million sub request in the description there, amazing how things can change in roughly 3 years :D

[@artykeldeo]

I know right?

[@ria6920]

But it would fatal like a rock You could make the moons density low enough to fall that slowly But by the it has a density to low to touch the planet anyways

[@rossizgames9106]

WEEGE OMG HI

[@dianehardwick1539]

the old felling

[@alyx8815]

watched in 2016 start of school

[@kidleprechaun1018]

You know this is an old video when in the desc. says "Help us reach 1 million subs!" and the directly to the right the sub button says 8.8M.

[@itsssuper]

Spicy Fred No it isn't. This was 5 months ago.

[@TheLastApostle]

Tigertail you know this is an old comment when in the description it says help us reach 1 million subs and next to the sub box it says 8.8 million when it's at over 10 million now

[@BetoPerez999]

Spicy Fred hah i was about to say that

[@itsu1290]

its 11 mil now

[@kaylubproductions4517]

I love these old video's creativity, math, super amazing end card tournaments, and editing. Ah the good ol' days.

[@Jerkwad152]

I was with you until you got to the tidal effects thing. A rock that size exerts no significant gravitational force. At worst, it would squash anything under it by its weight, and probably roll over some more stuff until it hit a divot. Then there'd be a big rock sitting in Termina Field. People in Clock Town could casually stroll away from it and not get hurt.

[@springtrap1156]

Jerkwad152 Romani ranch and snow head are protected by rocks and the valley would get burned for a few miles. Most people would flee to the mountains because of height. And the ranch could be saved because of giant hills. Ikana would be spared except for it entrance. Great bay may live too because it's low sea level. The only areas affected would be the clock town and parts of the swamp because they are vulnerable. Wood fall is probably where the deku and humans would take refuge because it is very safe and all the need to do is seal the entrance. The Zoras, Gorons, po's, and deku would survive. All of clock town would be destroyed but everyone can survive

[@abbadon2929]

Jerkwad152 well, you also have to consider damage done to atmosphere as the moon enters it. an asteroid of a similar size wiped out the dinosaurs but also cause massive atmospheric damage, as well as stripping th atmosphere of its ozone layer, which causes a myriad of issues in the environment.

[@Jerkwad152]

+The NopeBoat Yeah, except it had a miniscule amount of mass, was only slightly larger than Clock Town, no tidal forces, and moving slower than walking speed, so none of that applies.

[@KurtisC93]

The thing that these folks have apparently overlooked is the fact that a "moon" of its mass would not have enough gravitational force to cause the sort of apocalyptic conditions that they've described. To put this in perspective, I've calculated the force of the Terminian moon based on the numbers provided in this video: 2.97 x 10⁻⁵ N For those of you who don't know scientific notation, that's a _fucking small number_. There's a reason why only massive objects have enough of a gravitational pull to make any real difference - gravity is by far the weakest fundamental force in the entire universe. It is directly proportionate to the inertial mass of an object. That creepy-@ss thing in the Terminian skyline does not have enough girth to annihilate virtually anything.

[@dekulink448]

Yeah he makes so many inconsistencies it's almost like he hasn't played the game.

[@KurtisC93]

Deku Link Does games Hmm, I'm not sure if I agree with you on your latter point. I do think he's _played_ the game; I just think he sometimes forgets to take a few important variables into account.

[@somewhathandsome5288]

Also when you think about it, If the scale of the world in Majora's Mask was the same in proportion to our world, there wouldn't be any tidal waves, since the moon's gravitational force is not strong enough to cause any influence on the body of water.

[@deusignis6377]

Deku Link Does games That inconsistency isn't to do with the game, its just something that he hasn't seen with the information that he has already clearly obtained. Its to do with the fact that a smaller object has a smaller gravitational force, so its nothing to do with whether he's played the game or not, he just looked over a part of physics

[@dekulink448]

Deus Ignis I wasn't talking specifically about this one, that comment was mostly geared towards his "Zelda timeline is wrong" video.

[@YamatoFukkatsu]

I was with this up until the end, when it starts going on about how the moon's gravitational pull would fuck things over. One thing you're overlooking: gravity depends on an object's mass, and if the Termina moon is as small as you suggest, then I doubt that's really gonna do much of anything. It sounds like it might be just slightly worse than if a man-made satellite fell back down to our earth.... hell, do tides even exist in Termina?

[@grayson-bubbles-light5025]

Yeah, but you have to remember that an size object has gravity, and depending on the density of termina's moon, then we can determine if termina has tides or not. If it was as dense as our moon, termina would have very small tides, but still have tides. also, if it does have enough gravity to have tides, than it is able to push termina out of its orbit and have temperature changes as he said. Now, I could be wrong, but this all depends on the density of the moon

[@genevevil]

I learn more from Game Theory than I do at school

[@MrFlyingLamma]

Woah woah wait, hold on. Referring to the second part of the analysis, you stated that the tides would rise substantially more if the moon fell out of orbit. If the moon in Majora's Mask was the size of ours that would be true, but earlier in the video you clearly stated that it's clearly less in mass and thus gravity intensive than our moon. You basically made your second point null by your first point.

[@illdie314]

Wouldn't the moon have little to no effect on the tides or the orbit due to the fact that it is so much less massive than ours?

[@darezzi97]

One thing you got wrong. ASSUMING that the density is the same as our moon. Because it isn't. For a body like that to go so slow, it either must have a really low mass and great surface (so that the air slows it down), or the mass of the earth is really low. Since Link doesn't skyrocket up every time he jumps, I'd assume that the earth is of normal weight. Which means the Majora moon is extremely light. Which means it doesn't affect the trajectory of the Earth. There. It's absolutely not a threat.

[@disrespecc9678]

W

[@freakshow8660]

Link: *My life is a lie...*

[@janicewebre112]

Yes link your whole life is a lie dark link is the real link. Dun Dun Dun!!!!! (Dont worry it's a lie link)

[@zombies4evadude24]

“Who are you?” -Link “I’m you but cooler.” -Dark Link “Come back faker!” “You’re not good enough to be my fake!”

[@spencermoore6292]

Matpat taught me how to like science and math, he is so cool!

[@adampalmer7387]

Spencer Moore too bad he's not funny

[@bradmcdonald1471]

Widstige yes

[@buddhaspencer356]

Glad u enjoy something I don't really

[@weirdthings1104]

agreed

[@no.no.2098]

Spencer Moore he’s not his theory’s are a bunch of lie

[@jeffburnett2905]

I'd like to see you guys tackle Crash Bandicoot. Like his crate smashing, or Crash's evolution through machine, or how Cortex is really hails from the universe of the Simpsons. I don't know, JUST DO IT!... please.

[@Lukkyres]

Okay here is my question again: If the Original Donkey Kong is now the very old Cranky Kong... So how old is Mario actually? Is there a possible existence of a Mario Timeline? Or are there multiple Marios? This should be a Game Theory!

[@XblitzfireX]

Gotta love that Kingdom Hearts 2 - world that never was theme kicking in at the 9min mark just to make things far more spooky haha

[@bobbysmith3503]

Thanks for letting me know the name of this song :)

[@MercysNo.1]

I think the Moon is the Head of Bongo Bongo, the Shadow Temple boss from Ocarina of Time. Bongo Bongo was beheaded in Ocarina of Time Lore. So, since the game is about Death, it makes sense that Bongo Bongo wants revenge. Also, this is the First Zelda Game that doesn't feature Ganondorf. Maybe Ganondorf revived Bongo Bongo to take over a world, i.e Termina in order to achieve his goal.

[@punchingplayerpenguin3291]

sure, why not?

[@splashftw268]

Wait, why would Ganon even know about terminas existence? It's a parallel universe, he doesn't have any reason to know about termina.

[@cowman2040]

I agree dood

[@MercysNo.1]

Looking back, I can see my error.

[@210LG]

I think you should do one about Kirby! I would like to know about his stomach capacity or maybe about the power of his inhaling ability!

[@NecroBuddha]

Kirby smokes Eryday

[@Rubycario-yt]

I feel as though I learned more from this video than in an entire semester of my Physics class.

[@vortexhd9550]

Me too

[@AeroAstroid]

VortexHD we're 3

[@SilverQuetzalcoatl]

same here

[@ZzFallenAngelz]

yep

[@greenluck10]

It's so funny because when I was in 4th or 5th grade I wanted to show this video to my whole class because it had math in it and throughout the whole year I kept reminding my teacher about it, but we never actually did lol. I wanna ask the Game Theorist team to make a edited video of this video so when I go back to my home town I can fulfill my promise to show this video to an 4th or 5th grade class in my old elementary school from my teachers class too. Gonna miss u MatPat. ❤

[@CCCM89]

I would like to see an episode on kirby. Specifically, one in which you explain how that monstrous little pink puffball is even capable of eating as much as he does. That, or do an episode on how he's an eldritch abomination, or one on how dedede is really just a failed hero trying, and failing, to look after his people. Any of these, I think, would be interesting to watch.

[@AnUnimaginativeName1]

Mat Pat: Unfortunately, with your ideas on the Majora's Mask Moon drowning out the coast areas is self-contradictory. What you described would be if a moon, with the mass and size of ours was to draw nearer to the Earth. However, you yourself have also stated that the MM moon is much, much, MUCH smaller than this. It would therefore stand to reason that its gravitational pull would be severely lacking and unable to have anywhere close to the effect as you have described. So, ultimately, there really should be no threat to Termina; the head carpenter was correct after all.

[@isbey]

Actually the weight and size alone of the moon would be enough to at least crush clock town if not destroy the planet. Although links quest wouldn't be to save the world, it would still be necessary for him to save clock town. Really you have proven that his quest is not pointless.

[@AnUnimaginativeName1]

Except at 1J/s being applied, it's extremely easy for the tower to stop the moon Like, easier than holding up a person easy. In fact, it's almost like the moon is holding itself back; the force of gravity would make it apply more than that with that kind of mass.

[@deedlessdeity218]

And what sad grotesque part of Link's dying psyche dreamed up Tingle?

[@Onsvaltti]

Deedless Deity inner gayy? I dunno xD

[@striker4518]

Who is here after the Goodbye

[@SOCKKILLER]

Me ❤

[@Ethan_24754]

Yeah 😢 3 theories left 😭

[@CameraSucksAtMostThings]

None left🌮🥲

[@jasonroberts271]

Actually with a moon that size there wouldn't even be a gravitational pull significant enough to cause any major catastrophes. So unless we're figuring that this moon is actually a hydrogen bomb disguised as a big grimacing rock, the only thing that gets destroyed is 1 town. Also, I'd like to see some Game Theories on some games from the Kingdom Hearts series.

[@InfernalDalek]

The thing about the mass...isn't Majora's Moon hollow? I thought that spot at the end of the game with the tree and the open field took place inside the moon. That would throw the mass calculation way off!

[@MTRG15]

You forgot to take in count that Majora's Moon is way smaller, so its gravitational pull would be much smaller, so the seas wouldn't be as afected as you'd think, if they affected much enough like to notice the change

[@DrIMPRATICAL]

At that point, with the moon being so close, it might not even matter.

[@MTRG15]

Yup, is funny watching all these theories, it really surprises me how far can imagination go... but at the same time not everything is as true as it seems to be

[@vaughan57s52]

Did you forget the gravitational pull of their moon is not as bad as our moon, so this might happen, but it would be so little that nobody would even notice

[@nielsisback]

Well isn't it true that Majora's moon is nothing but a curse? It isn't the real moon of Zelda, just something created from the mask. I mean come on, at the end of the game it gets destroyed, Destroyed!! There is no way thats the actual moon